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DTM
08/11/2004, 03:47
All Hells breaking loose, as Hellboy and Spawn battle it out in a not so evenly matched Duel of the Darned.....cant say, well you know, here. Unfortunately for Spawn, Hellboy seems to be a specialist in dealing with such supernatural characters, and is basically beating the tar out of him, with his own head. Hellboy advances, but which of these next and FINAL two can say the same?

This is the FINAL MATCH of Round 3 all, so we all have about a day and a half to make our final arguments and cast our last votes for ANY Round 3 match before Round 4, the Semi Finals, begins. So if you havent done so, youve still got some time left......but not much.

Now allow me to present your LAST BATTLE in Round 3 of this Heavy Weight Division of the Movie Tournament Of Champions:


DARTH VADER (STAR WARS SERIES)


VS.


DARTH MAUL (STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM MENACE)


As always, same rules apply, no time to prepare, POOFed from where ever they were, with only what they routinely carry on them or used in their films, to fight in a Large area til one stands and one falls. YOU decide Who.

Randomly Chosen Area:


Airport - Vast open network of runways with only the occasional sign or tower for cover. Robust terminal in the middle with planes, baggage haulers, fuel tanks etc. (inspired by Die Hard)


Thanks all, and enjoy.

And REMEMBER, if youre not sure who someone is here, ASK. Theres PLENTY of people here who can tell you most anything youd like to know. Thanks again.

ALSO, please do your best to respect everyones votes, reasonings and opinions here. If you believe your character should win, but doesnt in the end, dont hold grudges against the character that beat yours, or call the votes that allowed this to happen "fanboy" arguments or plain and simply wrong. We all have our own way of thinking and voting here, with each one of our thoughts and ideas as valid as your own. Lets do what we can, even in the heat of an argument, to respect that. Thanks.


MOVIE TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS PART 3


ROUND 1

Darth Maul vs. TX Terminator: Darth Maul
Treebeard vs. Cain: Cain
Mina Harker vs. Swamp Thing: Mina Harker
Medusa vs. Nomak: Medusa
Hellboy vs. Alien Queen: Hellboy
T-Rex vs. Neo: T-Rex
Spawn vs. Storm: Spawn
Boba Fett vs. The Witch King: The Witch King
Jason X vs. The Scorpion King (Monster): Jason X
Mr. Hyde vs. Dracula: Dracula
Darth Vader vs. King Kong: Darth Vader
T-1000 vs. Profion: T-1000
Mr. Book vs. Shelob: Mr. Book
Gandalf The Grey vs. Gabe Law: Gandalf The Grey
Lord Zed vs. The Lord Marshall: Lord Zed
Mace Windu vs. Agent Smith: Mace Windu


ROUND 2

Darth Maul vs. The Witch King: Darth Maul
Mina Harker vs. Mr. Book: MR. BOOK
Dracula vs. Cain: Dracula
Spawn vs. T-Rex: Spawn
Gandalf the Grey vs. Mace Windu: Mace Windu
T-1000 vs. Lord Zed: T-1000
Hellboy vs. Jason X: Hellboy
Darth Vader vs. Medusa: Darth Vader


ROUND 3

Mace Windu vs. T-1000: T-1000
Mr. Book vs. Dracula: Mr. Book
Hellboy vs. Spawn: Hellboy
Darth Vader vs. Darth Maul: ??????

Mr_Clicky
08/11/2004, 03:54
Vader wins.

Wow, first post and stuff. Never thought I'd see the day I'd get in the first vote.

discombobulous
08/11/2004, 04:00
hmmm... one of the first that I debated a bit on

I'm going with Darth Maul.

NickFury15
08/11/2004, 04:10
I can't cast a vote here. I just think all Jedis/Sith are dopey.

Grinner
08/11/2004, 04:13
Well, if we're allowed to use outside sources Vader already beat Maul ;)

Even without using that fight I still have to give Vader the edge.

Vader to round 4.

The Charlatan
08/11/2004, 04:17
Darth Vader.

They actually did this in a Stars Wars comic, where Vader comes a cross a cloning facility with a Maul clone inside. Maul was much faster and more agile, but Vader was stronger with the Dark Side. Lashing out with all his rage and hatred, Vader crushed the copy of his predecessor.

green_knight
08/11/2004, 04:22
Vader.

The Charlatan
08/11/2004, 04:31
The fight ended with a really great quote, that, unfortunately, I can't quite remember. So maybe it wasn't that great after all?

Paraphrasing:

Maul (broken and defeated): I don't understand, what is it that you hate so much that makes you so much stronger in the Dark Side than me?

Vader (holding lightsabre over Maul's neck): Myself. (blade comes down)

Goose
08/11/2004, 04:46
Well, i think that maul is definately a better swordsman, the vader we see fighting is old and not very agile. But vader is much stronger in the force than maul is. I think maul has enough defenses agaisnt the force to make turn this into a lightsabre battle, much like yoda/dooku. And i personally think that maul can beat vader in an actual fight.

Now, vader is still going to end up winning this but im gonna put in my vote for Maul.

Mr_Clicky
08/11/2004, 04:49
I think Vader I so much stronger in the Force than Maul that I don't even think there will be need to hit the "on" switch on his lightsabre.

EmperorNorton
08/11/2004, 05:22
My question how Vader has beat Maul before still is left unanswered.

Still I vote for Vader.
Maul is so much cooler and probably the better swordsman. But Vader is stronger.

EmperorNorton

Edit: I just read in an above post that Vader beat a clone of Maul...

VandalSavage
08/11/2004, 05:33
I vote...Darth Vader!!

Mr. Savage

Nighthawk
08/11/2004, 06:29
I vote Maul, I assume this is Vader from the second trilogy, not the first, that's why

gladiator1518
08/11/2004, 06:29
Darth Vader.

NotYou
08/11/2004, 08:19
Vader.
Even if Maul was better, he'd find a way to snatch defeat from
the jaws of victory.

Goose
08/11/2004, 08:45
heh, one page and the match is already decided.

Darko
08/11/2004, 08:47
Vader in the comic being used earlier did not come across a clone facility, he was sent to a planet by his master to check things out since it was rumored rebels were on the planet. Vader and his men were searching when all his men were killed off with the last one thinking it was Vader killing him. He entered a chamber or something and came across "Sith Wizards" and then had to fight Maul who they brought back from the dead. They fought a great looking match and finally ended up fighting surrounded by lava. When it seems like Maul was going to win, Vader stabbed through himself to kill Maul. That is where he said he hated himslef more then anything because during the whole fight Maul called him a Jedi over and over, and told him how to be a real Sith and stop being a Jedi.
Maul control over the Force is almost the same as Vader but Vader hold the edge. During the fight Maul used it to take Vader ground away from him (if you understand you know how fighting works) The whoel Force thing between the two was almost cancelled out and pure lightsaber action was taken. Maul had some edge with the lightsaber and could of won it. Vader had experience and in the end his own body couldn't get in the way of living.
Vader is the ultimate Sith. Nothing in the Star Wars Univerise but his son could beat him, and nothing here will beat him.

darius_dax1
08/11/2004, 09:01
Vader....by a slight margin.

Rando
08/11/2004, 09:14
I vote for Vader

Lets see here Darth Maul managed to kill one jedi then was killed by his student. Darth Vader managed to kill the entire jedi council alongside Palpatine and ushered in a new order in the galaxy, with himself as it's second in command. I think it is worth noteing that Lucas does not consider comic books Star Wars "canon", or so I've been told by a source on Star wars that I trust implicitly, make of that what you will.

Gentlegamer
08/11/2004, 09:16
Darth Vader

SpakSpang
08/11/2004, 10:05
Darth Vader was one of the most scary villians created in cinema.

Verse Darth Maul one of the coolest looking villians, that was able to throw modern cinema magic do really awesome things.

In the end I have to give this battle to Darth Vader. We saw him do much more incredible and evil things then Darth Maul ever did.

1)Block laser fire with his hands. I am not sure how he even did that.
2)Chock people with the force.
3)TK many large objects at a time throwing them, and still fighting at the same time.
4)Standing up to full lightning blasts from the Emperor at point blank range.

The only think Darth Maul has on that is taking on two Jedi at once.

Darth Vader is the champion in this battle. Darth Vader is still the ultimate Jedi evil and will always be.

Krellen
08/11/2004, 10:17
Darth Vader was one of the greatest sith lords ever. He destroyed a very powerful Obi-won like he was nothing. Maul lost to Obi when he was still an apprentice.

Vote: Vader

SpakSpang
08/11/2004, 10:25
Krellen: Obi-Wan gave that battle to Darth Vader. It was hinted at through film editting that perhaps it was to help awaken Luke or to pass his gifts to Luke or something...it was never explained, didn't need to be.

Krellen
08/11/2004, 10:27
Fine but if was able to defeat the man who brought so much death and destruction to the universe you dont think he would of? He knew he could not defeat Vader, so he joined with the force.

Ignatz_Mouse
08/11/2004, 10:28
Vader. Maul got beaten by an apprentice-- he's all rep and intimidation-- stuff that Vader won't be cowed by.

rouge2
08/11/2004, 10:32
Originally posted by Rando
alongside Palpatine and ushered in a new order in the galaxy, with himself as it's second in command.

Second in Command? Didn't Tarkin outrank Vader?

Dr.H.Quinn
08/11/2004, 10:50
Wow...Vader for the win. Force over swordsplay.

Maul is the better swordsman and more agile. but Vader has better control over the force. Force over swordsplay.

Plus, Vader is just scary in that black suit.

I also have to realize that the movies were made decades apart and graphics and fight scenes have gotten more elaborate and better since the early 80's. So if Vader/Luke scene in cloud City or Vader/Kenobi in the Death Star was made today, it would probably have a lot of jumping around and twists and turns.

Krellen
08/11/2004, 10:59
Originally posted by rouge2
Second in Command? Didn't Tarkin outrank Vader?

No, Tarkin was a Grand Moff, but Lord Vader was above everybody other then the emp.

AEONFLUX
08/11/2004, 11:01
Vader.... *coooo* *caaaaaaa*

OpalScion
08/11/2004, 11:45
vader

MSU
08/11/2004, 11:49
I don't want to sound like a sheep here, but Vader for the win. I just cannot see Vader taking out Maul, unless someone tells me how. So...taking suggestions on people who know more about the characters then the average joe who has seen the movie.

I see Vader winning this tournament and being a force (ha ha..no pun intended) to reckon with in the SHW, especially if he gets a good first round pull.

But I also see the T-1000 being the only thing that can take Vader out. Ooh, the round 4 match ups will be key.

Mr_Clicky
08/11/2004, 11:58
Originally posted by rouge2
Second in Command? Didn't Tarkin outrank Vader?

I think this was one of those religious/military things. Vader was a Sith Lord, Tarkin a commander of armed forces. But politically Vader was second only to Palpatine.

Ignatz_Mouse
08/11/2004, 12:06
Hmm, not to get ahead, but I am undecided in a Mr Book/Vader fight. Book has more raw power, but Vader is both cunning a powerful.

Maximcards
08/11/2004, 12:27
Vader

tristam
08/11/2004, 12:49
From the movies only I see Maul winning.
From what we know Vader has done in the movie trilogy I think Vader would win.

So I'm not sure... No vote for now

Rubix1
08/11/2004, 12:49
Vader for the win - can we call this a blowout and start the picks for the next round?

I mean really - before Maul could even flare up the double blades Vader would choke the punk out. Stick a fork in the this Sith - it is done.

Maniac_nmt
08/11/2004, 12:50
Vader

He's older, wiser, more experienced, stronger with the force, more cunning, more driven, and he killed most of the jedi himself during the Empire's rise to power.

MSU
08/11/2004, 12:52
Wow...I wonder if Book is going to take this tournament. Hellboy, Book, T-1000, and Vader....hmmmm.

donnie72191
08/11/2004, 12:54
maul

Krellen
08/11/2004, 13:01
I think hellboy and Vader have good chances against Book.
If its Book and T-1000 we are going to need to clarify his powers. If it is what some ppl saying it would be like a bye for Book.

CREED
08/11/2004, 13:52
VADER-NO CONTEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devious:

Agent_X
08/11/2004, 13:59
Vader.

Gentlegamer
08/11/2004, 14:11
Originally posted by Mr_Clicky
I think this was one of those religious/military things. Vader was a Sith Lord, Tarkin a commander of armed forces. But politically Vader was second only to Palpatine.
Gran Moff Tarkin did in fact "out rank" Vader in A New Hope. Tarkin was the author of the Doctrine of Fear, and the Death Star was his project.

Magnito
08/11/2004, 14:17
Vader

DTM
08/11/2004, 14:29
Originally posted by Krellen
No, Tarkin was a Grand Moff, but Lord Vader was above everybody other then the emp.

Grand Moff Tarkin was definately higher ranked than Vader in ANH, its very clear to see this. Though from ESB onward, which was about 3 or 4 years past ANH, Vader was second in command of the Empire.

First Lensman
08/11/2004, 14:34
Yeah, it's Vader here!!!

Prof. Aragorn
08/11/2004, 14:37
Poor Maul, can I vote for both?

DTM
08/11/2004, 14:37
Darth Vader - 24 votes
Darth Maul - 6 votes

Ouch, while I thought Vader would win, I also thought it would alittle closer than this. :)

No new matches today, least this morning anyway, as I out this up earlier than normal, and we still have one VERY close match up to decide on, which of course is the Dracula v Mr Book fight.

Round 4 Starts Tomorrow!

bluebeetle
08/11/2004, 14:40
Darth Vader

SpakSpang
08/11/2004, 14:47
DTM: This one was no contest. Everyone here grew up with the understanding Darth Vader was Evil. Darth Maul has nothing compared to what Vader has in our memory.

I really liked how this round of the tournament played out. As much as I wish T-REX would have advanced, Spawn advancing helped create this great round.

Match 1 was the warm up battle with two very popular and very powerful combatants. It got everyone excited about the next possible matchups.

Match 2 was the two battle of the two quirks. They are powerful characters, but aren't favorites to win anything. The Battle for them was great because it made sure one of them made it to the next round.

Match 3 The Battle of the demons. This was the best matchup. Sure the stomping was obvious. Partially, because of popularity, but seeing that these two fought eachother instead of the Jedi or someone else just made the tournament much cooler.

Match 4: The battle of the feared. Two villians fight it out to see who is to be feared most. A great battle that allowed for a Jedi/Sith to be taken out earlier in the tournament, and leave spots open for the more diverse characters.

For the next round we will definately have:

Darth Vader
HellBoy
T-1000

with the outcast still not decided. This tournament can go anyway.

I am hoping for a

T-1000, Darth Vader battle then

Hellboy verse whoever.

Followed by the obvious finale: Hellboy vs. Darth Vader.

Grinner
08/11/2004, 15:00
Originally posted by Rando
I think it is worth noteing that Lucas does not consider comic books Star Wars "canon", or so I've been told by a source on Star wars that I trust implicitly, make of that what you will.

Well, now, there is a problem with that.

The post-Zahn novels are all considered canon. Many of the events from the comics (especially Dark Empire and the X-Wing series) are included as history of the novels, and are therefore canonical.

darkphoenix226
08/11/2004, 15:11
I know this isn't gonna help, but Maul.

I bring it all down to the book "Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter", because he's insane in it. I mean, not "insane", but the ways he uses the force are insane. He uses it to go faster than a speeder bike.

I mean, that takes it for me. He uses the force in ways I had never even thought of. He's the biggest force to reckon with in this tourney, IMO.

I mean, I grew up on Vader too, but Maul just seems to have more power IMO. Plus the dual lightsabers. This just shows how some people think Vader wins easily, while others like me think Maul would take it easily. Oh well, I tried Maul!!!!

Supamain
08/11/2004, 15:34
No use of the force allowed- Maul wins, but unfortunatly, it will be used.

Vader for the Win

DTM
08/11/2004, 15:49
Keep in mind that even when lightsaber dueling, a Jedi or Sith uses the Force. Taking away Force from both would not only take away most of Vaders powers, but most of Mauls lightsaber skills as well. The reason they can battle so effectively with just a lightsaber is the Force guides them, shows them where the next attack will be, where to strike and where to block, etc.

hail_eris
08/11/2004, 17:52
Yow - I spend a few days off-grid and T-1000 manages to take Mace? I gotta go check that thread. Oh, and Vader for the obvious win...

CREED
08/11/2004, 17:53
I'm not the world's biggest S.W.fan ,but are lightsabers a manifestation of a Jedi's power-if so-wouldn't Vader's saber be more powerful?"My Schwartz is bigger than yours!":devious:

Prof. Aragorn
08/11/2004, 17:53
Don't forget, you must save Draccy...or furth Book...whatever...

dj_sha
08/11/2004, 17:58
Wow, what a funny fight. Not to mention this is yet again another one of Wizard's "Last Man Standing." I think Vader one there too.


my vote=Darth Vader (hopefully the only Warsie in Round 4)

dj_sha
08/11/2004, 18:03
Actually, how about we save everyones time and just declare Hellboy the winner now. ;)

Prof. Aragorn
08/11/2004, 18:06
Originally posted by dj_sha
Actually, how about we save everyones time and just declare Hellboy the winner now. ;)

He may still have to go through Dracula, last time I checked, Son of the Devil is higher up than Prince of Hell;)

And besides, how else can he beat the T-1000? I swear he's like the Sandman of this tournament...jeez!

SpakSpang
08/11/2004, 18:57
Hellboy would be Dracula. Easy.

Actually DTM since this match is over please switch my vote to the T-REX.

The way I see it. He is offered the same Spawn summoning as Simmons was because obviously T-Rex has raging fans in this tournament, and perhaps the whole world. Hell is trying to get a make over for popularity but still do evil. T-Rex comes back and with his new Cloak, and Chains he is able to kill both Vader and Maul.

So please calculate one vote for T-Rex in the totals of this match.

jedah_s
08/11/2004, 19:04
:laugh:
no vote from me thanks
just glad this wasn't the final.

Laenan
08/11/2004, 19:08
Another vote for T-rex ;)

Mostly for fun.

darkphoenix226
08/11/2004, 21:10
T-REX! T-REX! T-REX!!!!!!!

JesseJames
08/11/2004, 22:56
Darth Vader.

JokersWild
08/11/2004, 23:45
Joker has decided that Vader will win this match...but he feels that his vote is just frosting on this cake walk of a match for Lord Vader.

JesseJames
08/12/2004, 00:20
"Joker has decided"

You should make that your sig :P

Prof. Aragorn
08/12/2004, 00:37
Nah, you should have "THE JOKER HAS SPOKEN! HA HA HA HA HA!"

It's part of the first lines he ever said in the comics!

Silver Lantern
08/12/2004, 03:45
Darth Maul!

WakandaMan
08/12/2004, 04:34
Dual light sabers is just too cool- put my vote down for Maul.

Vader has always been over-rated in my book. An old cripple in an environment suit, who believes in some hokey old-fashioned religion...oh hi there Vader...uh...ugh.... wait...

VADER: "*Hwaaar-kesh* I find your lack of faith.... disturbing."

:p

Rokk_Krinn
08/12/2004, 11:33
WakandaMan brings up a point that I've been thinking about...no, not the old guy in the suit but the hokey religion. Anyone else thinking about Hellboy's reaction after hearing Solo make that comment?

"Alright. Guy in all-black who worships a hokey religion. I've sooo seen this before." HB then promptly starts sorting through his bags pulling out saintly relics to throw at Vader. :)