300 point Unrestricted Tourney on Dec 5

[ArmyMan101]

Hey I got a tourney on Dec 5 Where the first prize is a case of MM booster and I am trying to come up with a team that might have a shot at winning it. The only restriction is that it is marvel clix only.

Here's the Team Im thinking about running:

100 Sentinel
100 Sentinel
11 R. Con Artist
11 R. Con Artist
11 R. Con Artist
11 R. Con Artist
11 R. Con Artist
11 R. Con Artist
32 Vet. Avalanche

Total 298 points

Tell me what you think

[StarDuck]

Avalanche is AE with the Sentinels.

[Lee the Great]

Ya...also...not much thought in this team....or so it seems...no offense....but it seems fairly easy to thwart...i mean...you'll do some damage....but a single batman could tear this team apart....a couple of double shots and your con artists are just...well.....nuttin... i think you'd do okay at a tourney....but probably not take first prize.... i also just loathe this sort of cheese....and i like cheese....mmmmmhmhmmm.....:cheeky:

[ArmyMan101]

Well keep In mind this is a marvel only tourney and while I dont mind people saying this team is #### I would Like them to say what they would do differently or what not

[tchipley]

Swap out Avalance for Rookie Blizzard and you should have the "Hooker Bomb" you are looking for. You'll have to drop a Con-Artist to fit it in your team. You'll be shy 10 point on you build.

The danger of your build is if you miss your Pulsewave to activate the Con-Artists. Miss it and you are in trouble. Critically hit them and you are in Big Trouble. Critical miss and Blizzard is out of pulse wave. May want to cut back to 3 artists so you can include a probability controller.


I dunno. I don't think this team is as competative as it once was. I'd be real worried about a Thor Crushing the Sentinels to scrap before you can launch an offensive.

[StarDuck]

Having R IG will help out alot. Sentinels defense is easy to hit, and if you go past your sweet spot it's just downhill from there. Stealth is a big problem for your team. I'm guessing your trying to capture with one, and atk with the other?

[ArmyMan101]

Hmm Okay should I try And run some mind control?

[StarDuck]

Calypso has both MC and PB;)

[ArmyMan101]

Whats her point cost

[tchipley]

The Rookie is 29 points.

"...and you too can include a brand, spanking new Calypso on your team for the low, low price of only 3 Con-Artists. You'll even have points to spare."

Act now supplies are limited!

[ArmyMan101]

Hmm lets see what people think of this:

100 Sentinel
100 Sentinel
11 R. Con Artist
11 R. Con Artist
11 R. Con Artist
29 R. Calypso
35 R. Blizzard

Total 297

[ArmyMan101]

Well what do you think

[B@ttle_R@ge]

Your chances to get first with a team like that are close to nothing. Your best defensive power is toughness and any one would await teams with hookers so they would launch some cheap piece and crush them to nothing. After that it's a walk in a garden... Try implying strategy in your team or fear the loss...

[ArmyMan101]

Well mister battle rage your comments mean nothing to me because while you cut my team down you say nothing to make it better so If you think I sux so much please tell what your grand idea would do better.

[MakoVince]

hes implying that you make a completely different team

[ArmyMan101]

Well some idea's would be helpful

[serious16]

My suggestion

102 Doc Samson V
73 Hawkeye V
58 Deathstroke V
31 Jean Grey R
20 Destiny R
8 Paramedic R
8 Paramedic R

300 exactly

[scholarx]

Oops, serious16's got a DC fig in there... you could try Marvel-tweaking that team to:

v. DocSamson, 102 (or for a RunShot Leadership alternative, u. Vindicator, 104)
v. (ult) Hawkeye, 73
r. Black Panther, 27 (your Outwit to replace Slade)
e. Moon Knight, 27 (super cheap Super Strength)
r. Mandroid, 28 (no need for Jean unless there are other Xfigs on the team)
r. Destiny, 20
r. Con Artist, 11
v. Paramedic, 12 (or the 10pt e. Paramedic with Vindicator)
= 300pts

It seems that the tourney scene now is all about picking your favorite RunShot flier and building around that. Is there any particular character (besides the Sentinels) that you'd like to have as your team centerpiece? (By the way, if your choice would be Ult. Thor, that's understandable, since there are umpteen threads around here already about teams for little goldilocks;) .)

[tchipley]

Originally posted by ArmyMan101
Hmm lets see what people think of this:

100 Sentinel
100 Sentinel
11 R. Con Artist
11 R. Con Artist
11 R. Con Artist
29 R. Calypso
35 R. Blizzard

Total 297

These are improvements definitely.
What the team now lacks is mobility.
That is, your 100pt sentinels have few means to get the first strike in. That leaves them at the mercy of you opponent. The defense will most likely not protect them from a heavy hitter and as a result you could be working working with one good sentinel and one "near junk" sentinel. What the CA's (Con-Artists) can do it provide you extra range via perplex. You still have to put yourself at a compromised position and hope bad rolls play in your favor (Calypso will help that.)

A suggestion many would disagree with would be to upgrade 1 sentinel to 200 pts and drop the other altogether. What this will by you is an improved defense and running shot. With running shot you can use your "multiattack" option to your advantage. Place an object within range of your first attack. Declare multiattack and attack the object moving closer to your opponent. For your second attack, move again, target a specific character and fire away. Carry Calypso to help your rolls.

They disagree because many feel 100 pts is a lot to pay for 3 clicks of life. If you can use it to your advantage then it was worth the investment.

Test that out at home and see if this helps.

Also what caliber of player do you think you will face. The stuff above is advanced level strategies and could overwhelm novice players.

Also note this team/playstyle could ruin your chance at fellowship. It's not generally fun to play against and many tend to complain when facing it. Judges listen to what impacts the environment. Not my personal feelings (cuz I'll play against anything at anytime) but I've seen too many tournies not to also give you that piece of advise.

[The Mindreader]

E Firelord 81
E Taskmaster 58 (Minions of Doom TA)
V Bullseye 43 (Sinister Syndicate TA)
V Doombot 38 (Minions of Doom TA)
E Quicksilver 24 (Avengers TA)
R Jean Grey 31 (X-Men TA)
V Paramedic 12
E Con Artist 12
----------------------
299 points

:)

[StarDuck]

I would lose the R Blizzard and put in R Invisibl Girl. You're really going to need the high defense with just 100pts sentinels. This way while you push your con artists your opponent will start moving in. Then your sentinels don't have to move too far to start getting in range.

[tchipley]

StarDck makes a good point.

[ArmyMan101]

That does sound like a good idea as for me I am a very rookie player so I dont have a wealth of knowledge for this game just quite yet. As for the competition I will be facing im not to sure but I will probably be fairly heavy. The 1st place prize is a whole case of MM boosters. The tourney will be in Cary, NC and considering the turnout for the recent pre-release tourney at Highpoint nc it will be fairly safe to say it will be tough going. Of course the prizes at the prerelease was not 1 but 2 galcaticuses so.... I dont know. But I do got A while to work on this team so I will be spending from now till the tourney to try and get the team to work. The people I play with only meet on Saturday's so im not gonna Get quite as much playtesting in as I like. Thank you all for your help and I hope that maybe If I continue working on this I will have a fighting chance at the tourney. Thanks alot

[StarDuck]

Always remember to use the mult atk with your sentinels. Also try taking one sentinel out and upgrading to a 200pt.
Sentinel 200pts
R Con Artist (x3) 33pts
R Calypso 29pts
R Invisible Girl 37
Total: 299pts.

Try that team out while you get the chance to. Sentinel can now run, shoot som1, and run to hide behind a building or wall while destroying an object or wall. Sorta like a HSS atk but a lot stronger. Remember in order to destroy an object or wall you'll need 3 dmg, so make sure to perplex at least 1 more to dmg when doing a multi atk. Also, if you critically miss with your sentinel expect the worse and always carry R IG with the sentinel.

[ArmyMan101]

Thanks for the ideas Ill try running the 100 x2 and 200 versions this sat at a local tourney but please keep helping me with some more Idea's. I am trying to stick to the sentienels as much as I can because other than them and the hookers I dont have a wide variety of figures to choose from. I mostly have DC figures. Well thank you for all you help

[beastmaster]

Originally posted by StarDuck
Avalanche is AE with the Sentinels.

but i think its legal to use it coz they dont have the same color of dial

[jamers]

Originally posted by serious16
My suggestion

102 Doc Samson V
73 Hawkeye V
58 Deathstroke V
31 Jean Grey R
20 Destiny R
8 Paramedic R
8 Paramedic R

300 exactly

i think she hulk vet is better than doc samsom, so i suggest that you remove destiny and upgrade 1 of your paramedic

[pseudosoldier]

Originally posted by beastmaster
but i think its legal to use it coz they dont have the same color of dial

You're mistaken, then. The Sentinel big fig rules are very clear that any character with the Brotherhood TA is AE with Sentinel, and the Rulebook states that you can't have AEs on the same team.

[pseudosoldier]

A team a friend was using to some success (until the other players figured out how to play around his strategy):

2x Sentinel (100pt)
R IG
R Harley Quinn
R Black Panther
V Moloid

Moloid was just filler, and Harley is a DC figure (that starts with Perplex; he hates activation clicks, but pushes his other characters to death anyway...) Removing both would make room for 3 Con Artists (possibly all Experienced, as that makes your team 300 even). That makes the team:

2x Sentinel
R Invisible Girl
R Black Panther
3x E Con Artist

Your first two turns would be spent pushing the CAs onto Perplex, and getting Black Panther into position to Outwit (although you could save his movement for the turn you needed it due to his TA). Remember to carry IG with one of the Sentinels, and don't be afraid to push, at least initially. (My buddy has a habit of pushing all his characters to death if we let him... :cheeky: )

[Fossil4182]

Well on the postive note I'll say two good things that could come of this team

First, If your planning on seeing a lot of X-Men teams at your event then you may be in better shape than a lot of people here are leading you on to believe.

Second, the 100 Sentinel may not have a lot of color on the dial, but it does still have 11 clicks of life on the dial. Also they have 6 clicks of toughness each. Thats 22 clicks of damage that they have to cause to you before they win.(Not counting toughness) That may look easy on paper to beat down two sentinels, but fighting 22 clicks of health is a lot different than talking about it.

I think the army you have has the right ideal. I would suggest that you drop 29 R. Calypso
and add in R. Destiny for a little luck, and a R. Paramedic for support. Best of luck to you.

[SuperGENE]

Want something more useful? Try this - I was gonna use it at the premiere event, but dupes, LEs, and Big Figs are not allowed.

Sentinel E 200
Invisible Girl R 37
Calypso Ezili LE 22
Con Artist Rx2 22
Sarah St. John LE 19
300 points

It's pretty simple: push the hookers, juice up Sentinel, and then have him push like crazy with running shots. It's easy to use, but not easy to use well. You need to position some objects so he can make 2 RSs accross the board in a turn. Then you have to decide who you are going to try to hit each turn. The key is to stay on your RS clicks.

[kanoson]

I have played Sentinels and I have played against them. Sentinels are cool and to some players they do scare, but a good player will be able to kill you from range all day long. If MM is leagle for this event you would be giving an X-Men 400 points. Cyclops, Havoc, and an outwit they will be able to do 8 clix to any one target. Plus if they have Jean Grey and Polaris they will both have first shot. I think you need to add some kill power to your team.

[cheesedog]

the Invisible Girl and the 200 point Sentinel are to use together since the 200 point has energy shield def. thats a 20 def win hit with range. try this
Sentinel E 200
Invisible Girl R 37
black panther e 36
x2 con artist 22
295 the black panther has outwit and bcf so you pump the Sentine with con artist and outwit with black panther. and if they try to use close combat on Sentine you can either capshure them or use bcf on them. then is they use range you got 20 def with energy shield def.

:) :) :) :)

[clark4christ]

I think that the extra hooker is going to be more important than the BCFs on E Black Panther, also that Avengers TA is important in a games like this where you will need extra movements in the first couple of turns due to pushing the Con Artists.
This looks like a fun team, not sure if it could win a very competetive tourny, but if played right I think it has a good chance.

[cheesedog]

thank you:) :) :) :) :) :)

[ArmyMan101]

Well heh I got third by running I well interesting team. I ran

count nefaria 210
Hooker x3 33
Mandroid Armour 27ish i cant remeber
Paramedic x3 21

It was a nasty fight but I only lost nefaria once

[cheesedog]

well you whent a totaly deferent way thats cool did you get a prize for third.:) :)

[rayous]

Where in cary did you play?

[cheesedog]

who you askin if your talkin to me then no im in al:)

[rayous]

no, armyman10. He said the tournement was in cary, nc. I was just wondering what venue. (expecially since the one chase the case event i knew of, at fallen orc games, was canceled.). If there is a venue in cary i dont know about ill be kicking myself.

[ArmyMan101]

There are two venue's in cary I orignally planned to go to the chase the case but when I found out that it was cancelled I went to the other one....whose name is currently escaping me at the moment you can find it at the wizkids site.

[rayous]

was it all fun and games?

[ArmyMan101]

Yeah for the most part the guy that tk'd the pluse waver out against me would have been rough....if he would've hit missing there hurt him alot

[ThorsHammer187]

how did you end up doing?

I know i didn't ever post anything but i just saw this post and i was just wondering what ya placed?