Here is information on the status of Sandra WuSan [Archive]

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 15:08

As many of you know I have been taking care of the Realms business of my good friend, Sandra WuSan. She has been out for quite some time and many of you have wondered why. I have agonized for the past few days over how much to disclose to you. Also I waited until I found out all the details I could myself. Believe me when I say that waiting for information of this nature about one of your buddies is not good times. Anyway after hearing reports from people who are there with her in Florida during this time, I have been urged to give you full disclosure, as I knew it.

Sandra was on the receiving end of what we can determine to be a very bad or highly effective Omega. Anyway the effects of this caused her to “freak out” and believe there were worms or bugs beneath her skin. Unfortunately she then took a knife and started to cut herself. Doctors have ruled this as “suicidal behavior” and she is currently heavily medicated and under strict supervision. She is receiving help.

I was told to give you the full disclosure so you can learn from the mistakes made.

I don’t have all the details and as more come available I will notify you.

AZS

03/30/2005, 15:12

Ok, if this is true, well... HOLY CARP!
Thank you, and please keep us updated on her progress.

Now, for the seemingly out of touch crowd, what is an "Omega"?

JKLantern

03/30/2005, 15:13

Ditto, ditto, and ditto.

Croaker

03/30/2005, 15:13

Oh God. Let her know that she's in our prayers.

What exactly is an Omega?

Darth Sabre

03/30/2005, 15:13

I was going to ask the same thing. I work in a field were people regularly have Mental Health issues, and have never heard that term used.

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 15:16

Truth be told... I got no idea what an Omega is. I was just told that is what it was. I am assuming it's some sort of narcotic.

Socko

03/30/2005, 15:16

wow.

wow.

____

And I dont know what omega is either... but it sounds ####ed up. is it a drug?

Socko

03/30/2005, 15:18

*checks date*

:ermm: its not april fools day yet....

bigkahuna83

03/30/2005, 15:20

thanks for keeping us informed, i will keep her in my thoughts & prayers

CarlosMucha

03/30/2005, 15:21

:eek: , if it's not a crazy joke. I always think she is not exactly "normal", if you don't bealive me ask to Lealu what I say sinse always.

But when I hear somethings like this, I just can be sad.

cattmoe

03/30/2005, 15:22

I work in the mental health profession as well and Omega is new to me. The way it was described it definitely sounds like a drug of some type, maybe a form of ecstacy.

Hope Sandra comes out ok.

Vegeto25

03/30/2005, 15:26

I have never heard of it either. I just did a yahoo search and here's what I came up with. If you search the word OMEGA you can find the relative text:

http://www.tnns.org/drugs.html

CuriousLurker

03/30/2005, 15:27

I remember when Darkseid killed Terrible Dan Turpin with his Omegas on that cartoon.

Still makes me cry.

"Goodbye old friend... in the end, the world didn't really need a superman... just a brave one."

CarlosMucha

03/30/2005, 15:28

why she was taking that???

CarlosMucha

03/30/2005, 15:33

I always don't like Sandra (for a lot of personals reasons), but she always feels like don't care what all the people think about her. She is our friend?

Now I feel stranger, I will like to save her in some way from some thigs. But again I don't feel she will care about it.

shock man x

03/30/2005, 15:33

:surprised

I hope she gets better. Never like hearing anything like that happening to anyone.

Socko

03/30/2005, 15:35

her avatars were of raves once, right?

taking this kind of thing is making more sense now...

:cry:

CarlosMucha

03/30/2005, 15:35

ditto.

AZS

03/30/2005, 15:36

Originally posted by Socko
*checks date*

its not april fools day yet....That would be a really tasteless april fools day joke for someone to come here and tell everyone that a person was really sick, or worse, dead, and think that it was actually funny.

BudPalmer

03/30/2005, 15:43

lukebuchanan

03/30/2005, 15:46

Originally posted by BudPalmer
<cancels this year's April Fools joke!>

almost as if on que............;)

That's seriously messed up. Until my work computer can find me what an "Omega" is I will refrain from comment.

To echo azs's words though, HOLY CARP! I didn't think this kind of thing was real.

Luke B. got shivers reading freakazoid's post.

Darth Sabre

03/30/2005, 15:48

Originally posted by Vegeto25
I have never heard of it either. I just did a yahoo search and here's what I came up with. If you search the word OMEGA you can find the relative text:

http://www.tnns.org/drugs.html

That's different. The Omega-fatty Acids, are things your body needs.

I didn't want to imply the "drug" aspect, but since it's been brought up, it was my initial thought.

Her last pm to me re: our trade was her saying that we could send the following Monday, and she could go shopping.

That was on a Fri, and I hadn't heard from her since. :ermm:

Terrible.

BudPalmer

03/30/2005, 15:48

Seriously though I feel for Sandra and wish her all the best.

Superfro

03/30/2005, 15:51

So is this a reaction to something or self induced?

Vegeto25

03/30/2005, 15:54

Darth Sabre,
The article mentions that improper amounts of Omega-3 fats can cause mental and emotional problems.

Canada Maestro

03/30/2005, 16:02

Originally posted by Vegeto25
Darth Sabre,
The article mentions that improper amounts of Omega-3 fats can cause mental and emotional problems.

Actually, it's Omega-6 fats that can cause the mental and emotional problems. And I don't think it would go so far as causing hallucinations but I could be wrong.

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 16:08

Originally posted by azs
That would be a really tasteless april fools day joke for someone to come here and tell everyone that a person was really sick, or worse, dead, and think that it was actually funny.

Don't even say the word "dead" man. That's just not cool. I'm stressed enough. That being said I would venture that an Omega is a form of "X" or Ecstasy. I'll verify with my friend who told me this evening. I wish I had more information but I am at the tail end of this whole thing being so far away.

Superfro

03/30/2005, 16:10

Originally posted by freakazoid_x
Don't even say the word "dead" man. That's just not cool. I'm stressed enough. That being said I would venture that an Omega is a form of "X" or Ecstasy.

If that is the case, and it was taken intentionally, then it is both pathetic and lame. I would have no sympathy for that at all.

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 16:12

I might retract the X Statement... that link was really informative, thanks Vegito. But I'll ask tonight to be sure

doctorfate77

03/30/2005, 16:13

this is horrible.

This kind of thing is always the last thing I want or expect to hear about someone that I know, or at least know of.

How is her family taking it?

I wish there was something we could do....

Vegeto25

03/30/2005, 16:14

Canada Maestro,
I just reread the article and it mentions Omega-6 in addition to Omega-3 as causing problems. Apparently having too much of one or the other can cause the mental and emotional problems. I'm not saying that article is gospel either. Out of curiosity I searched for "Omega Drug" in Yahooand that's what I came up with.

thugit

03/30/2005, 16:14

Yeah, that website is full of ####.

I know a few things about

A.) Blood pressure medicine ( I take it)
B.) Organ transplants (my brother had a heart transplant that failed.)

I'm not sure if ANY of this is legitimate--that website sure isn't.

Never has any member here sought attention more than Sandra--and now after a thread questioning her whereabouts comes up, this is posted a few days later.

If she's actually ill, I wish her all the best....something smells fishy about this, though....

jerrysclix

03/30/2005, 16:17

dismissing the pain of another is pretty poor. regardless of how that person was injured they deserve a certain level of sympathy. don't be a poozer.

possible culprit:
http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1134

Battletank900

03/30/2005, 16:17

Sorry to hear this sad information. I wish SWS a speedy recovery and a return to the realms soon.

We have all made some choices in life that we regret, but drugs are never the answer. Learn from this the next time you have to make a choice.

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 16:17

doctorfate77

03/30/2005, 16:19

Originally posted by Superfro
If that is the case, and it was taken intentionally, then it is both pathetic and lame. I would have no sympathy for that at all.

You and I are of the same mind, Fro-Bro. I have the same opinion regarding willfull suicide.

however, I've had a few friends who have been hospitalized due to drug induced "freak outs". and no matter how stern a stance you take, actually seeing someone , even more if its someone you know, in that situation...

okay. I'm done.

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 16:24

If you are one of the 2 people on this site who's never taken any form of drugs than I salute you. But in or modern day society we take all kinds of drugs everyday, from that cup of cofee in the morning to the glass of wine to get you through the afternoon or that cigarette to calm your nerves, and if you are under the care of a doctor then I'm sure you are taking some form of drugs, you have a headache, then pop some aspirin, and if you are into recreational drugs then party on.

All I am saying is don't take that holier than thou attitude. If you've never ever crossed the line then I salute all you goody two shoes, but if you are human then I am sure at some pooint in your life you will do something that the next day you will regret. All I hope and pray is that whatever it is that you do, that you are able to bounce back from it an use it as a learning experience.

Now let me get off of this dang soap box, I'm getting a head ache and my coffess cold and I need a shot of something!!

thugit

03/30/2005, 16:25

Originally posted by freakazoid_x
Hmmmm yes... fishy that after someone asks a question it is answered. Hmmm well then by your logic... all answers are suspicious.

What time is it? Almost 12:30. I'm on to you!!!

Didn't you say that even YOU were getting this information second-hand?

It sure seems that SWS is the ONLY person on this site who doesn't have anyone who has personally met/seen her.

PopeJ-rod

03/30/2005, 16:27

Originally posted by jerrysclix
dismissing the pain of another is pretty poor. regardless of how that person was injured they deserve a certain level of sympathy. don't be a poozer.

possible culprit:
http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1134

I would bet that this is the culprit. I have checked a site that a former drug user told me about and I searched several different ways for something called "Omega" and the closest I got was a company that the FBI shut down that was selling chemicals over the net. I wondered if it might be a pill imprint as I have heard people refer to them by those names. I don't personally use, but had friends that became involved in that world. Fortunately they never got hurt and have given up that lifestyle.

It is very sad that she has had this happen. Hopefully after she gets help she will not continue to take these kind of risks.

Canada Maestro

03/30/2005, 16:27

freakazoid_x,
Forgetting the omega-3/6 issue, please keep us informed as best you can as I hope Sandra gets better.

Superfro

03/30/2005, 16:28

de4dp00l

03/30/2005, 16:29

Originally posted by thugit
Yeah, that website is full of ####.

I know a few things about

A.) Blood pressure medicine ( I take it)
B.) Organ transplants (my brother had a heart transplant that failed.)

I'm not sure if ANY of this is legitimate--that website sure isn't.

Never has any member here sought attention more than Sandra--and now after a thread questioning her whereabouts comes up, this is posted a few days later.

If she's actually ill, I wish her all the best....something smells fishy about this, though....
Thugit, nothing personal on you, but everyone should probably either give her the benefit of the doubt, or just stay quiet on this one. If she really is in bad shape, then it will just be in really poor taste. If she's not sick, but is just looking for attention... well, that's just really sad as well, and you might as well let her have her little game. Like I said, nothing personal, and I can certainly understand why some people will be suspicious.
As for myself, I wish Sandra well, and hope that whatever demons she has can be dealt with.

thugit

03/30/2005, 16:32

Originally posted by de4dp00l
Thugit, nothing personal on you, but everyone should probably either give her the benefit of the doubt, or just stay quiet on this one. If she really is in bad shape, then it will just be in really poor taste. If she's not sick, but is just looking for attention... well, that's just really sad as well, and you might as well let her have her little game. Like I said, nothing personal, and I can certainly understand why some people will be suspicious.
As for myself, I wish Sandra well, and hope that whatever demons she has can be dealt with.

I KEEEELLLL YOUUUUU!!!

;)

I'm just pointing out that the little that I read on that article was not correct--and that Sandra has been a self-proclaimed "attention #####"--I'm not passing judgment.

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 16:33

Originally posted by thugit
Didn't you say that even YOU were getting this information second-hand?

It sure seems that SWS is the ONLY person on this site who doesn't have anyone who has personally met/seen her.

I have met her. And as I understand it LeaLu has spoken to her on the phone.

By your logic though... I might not be who I claim to be. As far as I know I am the only Realmser in Oregon.

shock man x

03/30/2005, 16:33

Originally posted by Superfro
Not sure that they really want us getting into all this, but I'm hoping that you are well aware of the difference between taking asprin for a headache or drinking a soda to shooting herion or taking some X. :rolleyes:

Seriously.

Ditto

Funky Jett

03/30/2005, 16:34

Here (http://www.acnp.org/g4/GN401000172/CH168.html)

Look for the title -- RECEPTOR CHARACTERISTICS
or search for the word Omega...
Two GABA receptors have been identified anatomically and pharmacologically. These receptors—variably called type I and type II, benzodiazepine I and benzodiazepine II, or omega I and omega II—are located throughout much of the central nervous system (CNS). The omega I site has been associated with the alpha-1 subunit, whereas the omega II site appears to be heterogeneous, located on receptors with alpha-2, alpha-3, and alpha-5 subunits (75). The ratio of omega I to omega II binding sites is greater in the cerebellar and cerebral cortices, whereas omega II sites predominate in the spinal cord. Pharmacological studies indicate that the 1,4-benzodiazepines bind with relative nonselectivity to both omega I and omega II sites. The triazolobenzodiazepines tend to have a greater affinity for omega I and II receptors than do the other benzodiazepines, and they are more potent. Zopiclone, despite its unusual chemical structure, has a binding profile much like that of the classic benzodiazepines. Zolpidem, however, binds with much greater affinity to the omega I site (e.g., see ref. 49), and there is evidence that abecarnil may have some specificity for the omega I site as well (69).

thugit

03/30/2005, 16:35

That's not "my logic."

"Seems like" is hardly a dogmatic assertion on my part.

jerrysclix

03/30/2005, 16:35

we all have a plastic addiction, perhaps that is just gateway for more hardcore behaviors.

we should start HA, before more of us end up in NA

Funky Jett

03/30/2005, 16:36

However --
Street Drug Slang Dictionary Search Results
Search results for the word omega in words and definitions.
Found 0 matches.

jerrysclix

03/30/2005, 16:38

http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1134

it is a form of ecstasy, i have it on sources, it hasn't much to do with omega fats

Talezine

03/30/2005, 16:39

Omega:

Form of extacy...usually hand made. Also, very easy to slip another hallucinogen into.

Problems with extacy: SEVERE increase in metabolic activity and core body temperature. May cause severe neurological damage due to temp increase. Also, may cause post hallucinogenic activity (via dopamine response if I am correct...but I may be wrong there...sorry).

May become psychologically addictive (then...everything can to a point). Schitzophrenic periods have been noted...but I am not familiar with the route this is caused by.

If it is the cuase...I am truly sorry. When the mind breaks, it is one of the most difficult parts of the body to be healed. If this is not true...I will be VERY angry with the person who posted this lie.

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 16:40

If you take too much aspirin it can cause kidney problems

drinking too much soda is not good for your body

do i think there is a difference between herion and childrens tylenol... yes.... but are they all forms of drugs... yes ...

too much of anything is not good for you...

for you to dismiss someone off for taking one or the other is quite judgemental on your part... you must not like any rock stars or rappers or actors. Because dang near all of them some form of recreational drug be it alcohol, cigarettes or plain old drugs.

Rick James said it best.... Cocaine is a hellova drug!

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 16:41

Originally posted by thugit
That's not "my logic."

"Seems like" is hardly a dogmatic assertion on my part.

Okay ummmm... you just said 2 words I'm pretty sure I don't know and I don't want to look them up. So I'm going to assume you said something relevant in them and nod and pretend to do some serious thinking on the issue. When in fact I'll be sleeping at my desk.

thugit

03/30/2005, 16:43

Sorry for my esoteric use of language. ;)

As I stated previously--if there actually is something wrong, I wish her the best. Don't vilify me for being slightly suspicious.

AZS

03/30/2005, 16:48

Seconding de4dp00l's comments. If she is sick, then obviously people are concerned. And no matter what kind of person she is on this site, she's obviously made some friends.

If it were to unfortunately be revealed that this was a hoax, she would then surely suffer the concequences of such a tasteless joke. Until then, this is either a time for sympathies, or silence.

[edit - I get a question at work, and when I get back here and hit "submit" the conversation has moved on. Sorry if anything here is redundant.]

Superfro

03/30/2005, 16:50

Originally posted by bootkneelee

for you to dismiss someone off for taking one or the other is quite judgemental on your part... you must not like any rock stars or rappers or actors. Because dang near all of them some form of recreational drug be it alcohol, cigarettes or plain old drugs.

That is pretty much correct. I don't personally care for a lot of famous type people for those reasons.

However it's not just judgemental on my part, but also due to the laws of the nation. That coupled with my opinions give me the outlook I have. I'm certainly not a "goody two shoes" as you described, but I'm quite agains't people doing illegal drugs and putting themselves and others at risk. If that makes me "judgemental" then I'm glad to be.

All of that being said, we don't even know that this is the case here.

sockmonkee

03/30/2005, 16:53

If this is true do you think SWS would appreciate the fact that what happened to her is posted all over the realms?.

.....Hmmmm But given the way she loved attention maybe she would.:rolleyes:

If what happened is true then I wish that person the best.

de4dp00l

03/30/2005, 16:53

Originally posted by bootkneelee
If you take too much aspirin it can cause kidney problems

drinking too much soda is not good for your body

do i think there is a difference between herion and childrens tylenol... yes.... but are they all forms of drugs... yes ...

too much of anything is not good for you...

for you to dismiss someone off for taking one or the other is quite judgemental on your part... you must not like any rock stars or rappers or actors. Because dang near all of them some form of recreational drug be it alcohol, cigarettes or plain old drugs.

Rick James said it best.... Cocaine is a hellova drug!
If this is your general stance on narcotics, I weep for you. Well, I don't really weep, but it's still pretty stupid. You are using paper thin rationale to justify some very dangerous behavior.
By the way, when rock stars OD and die, I regret their passing sometimes, but I feel little personal pity for them and their situations. I simply regret the loss of their talent. I can love a man, without loving his mistakes.

Socko

03/30/2005, 16:53

Here is the Omega Pill that is being circulated throughout florida. (http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1087)

That very well may be what sandra took...

Talezine

03/30/2005, 16:53

ReZourceman

03/30/2005, 16:53

That explains a lot.

Socko

03/30/2005, 16:57

wait.... THIS is the omega pill that is going around WHERE SHE LIVES

West Palm Beach "Omega" E (http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1071)

Talezine

03/30/2005, 16:57

Whoa...sorry for all the typos and the double post...trying to type while correcting papers and eating a sandwhich.....DON'T try that at home!!

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 16:59

Originally posted by sockmonkee
If this is true do you think SWS would appreciate the fact that what happened to her is posted all over the realms?.

.....Hmmmm But given the way she loved attention maybe she would.:rolleyes:

If what happened is true then I wish that person the best.

That is exactly why I didn't post about this sooner. If you look at my posts from a few days ago over at the WuSan thread I made it clear that I didn't know how much to disclose to you all. Finally someone very close to the issue said that I should disclose everything and that person would take full responsibility if Pinky wasn't pleased.

AZS

03/30/2005, 17:00

I pretty much assumed it meant X when I read the initial post.

I guess "Omega" is a regional slang for a particular "brand."

So "avoid the Omega" would be a modern equivalent of "watch out for the brown acid, man."

Superfro

03/30/2005, 17:03

Originally posted by de4dp00l

By the way, when rock stars OD and die, I regret their passing sometimes, but I feel little personal pity for them and their situations. I simply regret the loss of their talent. I can love a man, without loving his mistakes.

More so, you can love what someone can create, but still not care for them as a person. ;)

PopeJ-rod

03/30/2005, 17:05

Originally posted by Funky Jett
Here (http://www.acnp.org/g4/GN401000172/CH168.html)

Look for the title -- RECEPTOR CHARACTERISTICS
or search for the word Omega...

Funky,

The references to omegas in that paper have to do with a receptor site for the chemicals that they are discussing, not the chemicals themselves. Additionaly the chemical family they are discussing are Sedatives, and not very likely to induce Halucenogenic effects, though I can't rule out the possibility, based on the information in that paper.

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 17:14

Originally posted by Superfro
More so, you can love what someone can create, but still not care for them as a person. ;)

Like we really love Gene Simmons or Eddie Vedder, we don't know these people or interact with them so all we can love is what they create....

Look all I am saying, in my humble opinion, I think for you and docfate to flat out say that you have no sympathy for anyone who hurts themselves because of drugs is kind of lame.

And yes it is my opinion and you are entitled to yours and we can agree to disagree.

But mark my words, we all do things, from time to time, that in hindsight is detremental to ourselves, and if we survive it, then it is by the grace of God.

TheFreak

03/30/2005, 17:18

As a person who has done recreational drugs (once) if this is true, get well, but another part of my brain is saying "you did it yourself" but I can't punish her for that, she knows what she did and where it got her. hopefully she's learned a lesson.

I hope this isn't a lie, cause and the boys from South Park say "that's pretty ####ed up right there"

Superfro

03/30/2005, 17:22

Originally posted by bootkneelee
...then it is by the grace of God.

Well there's a whole 'nother can of worms! :grin:

I'm gonna go with the agree to disagree thing. ;)

But only because you're posts usually make me laugh. :laugh:

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 17:26

Originally posted by Superfro
Well there's a whole 'nother can of worms! :grin:

I'm gonna go with the agree to disagree thing. ;)

But only because you're posts usually make me laugh. :laugh:

See Superfro, you can be wise!

I agree with all three of your remarks!

Ignatz_Mouse

03/30/2005, 17:30

I find it odd that she'd be "heavily sedated" if she's been in the hospital that long. Anyway, if this is real, I wish her well.

Superfro

03/30/2005, 17:30

Originally posted by bootkneelee
See Superfro, you can be wise!

HEY, I didn't know THAT was a point we were debating!?

I take it back. I take it all back. :cheeky:

SmittySue

03/30/2005, 17:31

Originally posted by bootkneelee
If you take too much aspirin it can cause kidney problems

drinking too much soda is not good for your body

do i think there is a difference between herion and childrens tylenol... yes.... but are they all forms of drugs... yes ...

too much of anything is not good for you...

for you to dismiss someone off for taking one or the other is quite judgemental on your part... you must not like any rock stars or rappers or actors. Because dang near all of them some form of recreational drug be it alcohol, cigarettes or plain old drugs.

Rick James said it best.... Cocaine is a hellova drug!

This has to be one of the most irrational thoughts and logic I have ever come across.

It is not judgemental when I take LEGAL drugs as prescribed by my doctor or what is approved by the FDA. Than pass judgment on someone that is supposely smart and took an ILLEGAL drug.

She made her choice and now she will have to live with them. I'm sure she was aware of the danger of taking an ILLEGAL drug. I have a hard time feeling remorse or feelings for someone I never met. Just like when that rockstar or movie star OD's on something. While I'll miss their talent, I do not miss them as a person.

CaptainCanada

03/30/2005, 17:32

That is very sad. I hope she's better soon. :cry:

DemonRS

03/30/2005, 17:36

Honestly..

I hope she gets better.. however taking she shouldn't have taken the X and brought it on herself..

And to , While many things have a drug in it, There is a HUGE difference between them and a recreational type drug. One difference.. many rec. drugs are made in home by other people. Pepsi is not.. You always know what's in that pepsi.. You don't for the rec drug.. For your sake I hope you don't have a child. Many terrible things can happen because of rec drugs, be it sickness, ####, or worse..

andrewtarius

03/30/2005, 17:36

Hmm, I think I am going to chalk this one up as an April Fools prank. Not that I am wishing any harm for her, it just seems too coincedental to happen at this time of the year.

It's almost deja vu all over again.

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 17:44

Originally posted by SmittySue
This has to be one of the most irrational thoughts and logic I have ever come across.

It is not judgemental when I take LEGAL drugs as prescribed by my doctor or what is approved by the FDA. Than pass judgment on someone that is supposely smart and took an ILLEGAL drug.

She made her choice and now she will have to live with them. I'm sure she was aware of the danger of taking an ILLEGAL drug. I have a hard time feeling remorse or feelings for someone I never met. Just like when that rockstar or movie star OD's on something. While I'll miss their talent, I do not miss them as a person.

Let me ask you a honest 2 part question...

a] do you drive?

b] have you ever driven a car over the legal speed limit?

If you answered yes to B then I guess if anything bad ever happened to you as a result of your ILLEGAL actions I guess we should all just point our fingers and say "you desearved what happened to you and shame on you and nope, not gonna feel anything for you"

I'm beating a dead horse but I'll say it again, we all do things that we should not do and the only time it's bad is when soething bad happens.

If I drink a six pack of beer, watch Latenight with Letterman and then fall asleep and wake up the next day and go to work ,then it's no harm, no foul, butif I drink that same six pack, trip and fall and bust my head open,. then I guess I was just a stupid idiot that got when he desearved!

jmainse

03/30/2005, 17:48

Feel better Sandra.

DeonBeast

03/30/2005, 17:50

I guess I'm a rebel and I'll never-ever be any good. Darn my lead foot.

She took a risk, she's paying a price. It happens. We all take risks everyday, unless you are a bubble-clixer.

Hope you get better soon, Sandra.

DemonRS

03/30/2005, 17:51

Originally posted by bootkneelee
If you answered yes to B then I guess if anything bad ever happened to you as a result of your ILLEGAL actions I guess we should all just point our fingers and say "you desearved what happened to you and shame on you and nope, not gonna feel anything for you"

But don't you?

I've been pulled over.. first thing that goes through my head.. I'm a ******* idiot. I shouldn't have been going that fast..

First thing that goes through my head when I see someone who blew past me... See that's why you shouldn't speed that much.

Yes when you do something illegal, and something bad happens, I do feel you got what you deserve..

Tax fraud? In Jail?? Looks like you got what you deserve..

CuriousLurker

03/30/2005, 17:57

Originally posted by azs
If it were to unfortunately be revealed that this was a hoax, she would then surely suffer the concequences of such a tasteless joke. Until then, this is either a time for sympathies, or silence.

Huh, why wouldn't Freakazoid suffer the consequences? For all we know, SWS is off at a church retreat or on safari. She may have never told him anything.

If this turns out to be a hoax, its Freakazoid's fault, if the word "fault" really even is warranted.

DeonBeast

03/30/2005, 18:00

Originally posted by CuriousLurker
For all we know, SWS is off at a church retreat or on safari.

So you are thinking Sandra might be in a missionary position?

:grin:

de4dp00l

03/30/2005, 18:03

Originally posted by bootkneelee
If I drink a six pack of beer, watch Latenight with Letterman and then fall asleep and wake up the next day and go to work ,then it's no harm, no foul, butif I drink that same six pack, trip and fall and bust my head open,. then I guess I was just a stupid idiot that got when he desearved!
See, you don't really seem to grasp the significance of taking Ecstasy, Cocaine, heroin or whatever other hard core drug over drinking too much, speeding a little bit, etc. Keep things in proportion here. I'd say that drinking a six pack of beer and fallind down on your way to bed is on par with driving 10 miles over the limit and getting a ticket. You did something that was bad for your, a little in excess, and paid the penalty. Neither of those things is very dangerous.
Taking ecstacy is more like driving 30 or 40 miles an hour over the speed limit, or drinking a case of beer in one sitting. In one case, you're greatly increasing your chances of losing control and hurting yourself and others, and in the other case, not only are you almost gauranteed to do some unintentional falling, you've got a good chance of getting alcohol poisoning, too. And, for the sake of argument, lets assume that once you drive that fast or drink that much beer, it becomes addicting. To say that taking illegal drugs is on par with the kind of speeding that the average person does is foolish. That's like comparing shooting someone with a pellet gun to a shooting with a magnum. One's a little dangerous, the other is going to kill someone.

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 18:03

Originally posted by CuriousLurker
Huh, why wouldn't Freakazoid suffer the consequences? For all we know, SWS is off at a church retreat or on safari. She may have never told him anything.

If this turns out to be a hoax, its Freakazoid's fault, if the word "fault" really even is warranted.

I'm more concerned that everyone is so suspicious that I am lying despite my fairly decent record of integrity here at HC Realms. I mean I'm no saint but I would at the very least like the "unless freakazoid is a filthy liar" part omitted from everyones well wishes towards Pinky.

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 18:04

Originally posted by DemonRS
But don't you?

I've been pulled over.. first thing that goes through my head.. I'm a ******* idiot. I shouldn't have been going that fast..

First thing that goes through my head when I see someone who blew past me... See that's why you shouldn't speed that much.

Yes when you do something illegal, and something bad happens, I do feel you got what you deserve..

Tax fraud? In Jail?? Looks like you got what you deserve..

It's kind of like that guy, who when everyone wanted to stone that chick for doinging something wrong, and he said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and eveyone just dropped their rocks and went home.... we are all guilty of doing silly things, and we should not be written off for them...

SmittySue

03/30/2005, 18:06

Originally posted by bootkneelee
Let me ask you a honest 2 part question...

a] do you drive?

b] have you ever driven a car over the legal speed limit?

If you answered yes to B then I guess if anything bad ever happened to you as a result of your ILLEGAL actions I guess we should all just point our fingers and say "you desearved what happened to you and shame on you and nope, not gonna feel anything for you"

Ugh!! The police allow a cushion zone for all speed zones. Where they will not pull you over for speeding, usually anything over 10 and you are busted. Another HUGE difference!! They also will ticket you if you are doing the speed limit or under it, beacuse your not keeping up with the flow of traffic and you are more of a hazard. Have I ever sped recklessly (20 and over). NO. If I speed and get caught or have an accident, than yes I deserve what ever happens. I broke the law, plain and simple. I don't deserve any sympathy. I knew the risk, I took them and I lost. SWS knew the risk, she took them and lost. Sorry, No Pity. If someone slipped into her drink, that is a totally different story.

Yes, if you drink a 6 pack and get blitzed and crack you skull open. I do not feel sorry for you. You were a moron for drinking that much. Have I ever been blitzed (Many times, and I was a moron for doing it). Do I expect any pity when I wake up with a hangover. NOPE! Do I expect pity if I goto the ER when I fall on the sidewalk. NOPE! I knew the risk, I took them, sometimes you beat the odds, other times you get screwed.

That be the facts, she did something ILLEGAL. She was breaking the law, there is a reason for why X or Omega is ILLEGAL.

That is problem (One of them) with society. Accepting your problems when you screwed up. Maybe she will learn from this and never do X again or think Raves are not worth it. I hope she does and becomes a productive member in society.

While others make excuses for lack of judgement.

logan_xavier

03/30/2005, 18:07

Get well SWS!

As for all the discussion about Illegal vs. Legal, all I have to say is that almost every recreational drug was legal at one point or another (except Crack). If this would have happened while MDMA was a legal drug, would you be so quick to judge?

FaithlessOne

03/30/2005, 18:08

There's a big difference between speeding and partaking in illegal narcotics...

However, if you knowingly break the law, in any form, be ready for the consequences, be it personal or judicial.

Get well soon, SWS, hopefully this will be a life changing experience for you.

Funky Jett

03/30/2005, 18:10

I can sum up my feelings on her state of being in one word -- ambivolent.

People are spending too much time worrying over this one person. There are more people that have posted here, with better content that are no longer here, yet no one gives a good GD about them.

grey_zealot

03/30/2005, 18:11

Originally posted by freakazoid_x
As many of you know I have been taking care of the Realms business of my good friend, Sandra WuSan. She has been out for quite some time and many of you have wondered why. I have agonized for the past few days over how much to disclose to you. Also I waited until I found out all the details I could myself. Believe me when I say that waiting for information of this nature about one of your buddies is not good times. Anyway after hearing reports from people who are there with her in Florida during this time, I have been urged to give you full disclosure, as I knew it.

Sandra was on the receiving end of what we can determine to be a very bad or highly effective Omega. Anyway the effects of this caused her to “freak out” and believe there were worms or bugs beneath her skin. Unfortunately she then took a knife and started to cut herself. Doctors have ruled this as “suicidal behavior” and she is currently heavily medicated and under strict supervision. She is receiving help.

I was told to give you the full disclosure so you can learn from the mistakes made.

I don’t have all the details and as more come available I will notify you.

My God. I hope she does get better.

de4dp00l

03/30/2005, 18:12

Originally posted by logan_xavier
Get well SWS!

As for all the discussion about Illegal vs. Legal, all I have to say is that almost every recreational drug was legal at one point or another (except Crack). If this would have happened while MDMA was a legal drug, would you be so quick to judge?

Hmm, would I think somebody was stupid for getting high off drug that hadn't been tested by the FDA and was being sold to me by some guy on the street?

Gee, that's a tough one.

CuriousLurker

03/30/2005, 18:12

Originally posted by freakazoid_x
I'm more concerned that everyone is so suspicious that I am lying despite my fairly decent record of integrity here at HC Realms. I mean I'm no saint but I would at the very least like the "unless freakazoid is a filthy liar" part omitted from everyones well wishes towards Pinky.

Freak, that wasn't meant as an attack on you, it was more meant as a defense for SWS. I am sorry you felt attacked. That was not my intention.

I feel people tend to blow internet post's magnitude way out of proportion. So what if she did play an April Fool's prank on a site about little plastic men, who cares? No one was hurt.

I'd be more inclined to pick up a pitchfork and torch if she lied about a heroclix rumor.

But ultimately, if someone gets in trouble over this thread, it should not be SWS. She didn't start it, she hasn't yet posted on it. She has zero accountability for this thread.

And in all honesty, I never really was part of "oh look, she's a girl" craze. I had my doubts she was even female. And I had noticed many similarities between "her" posts and another banned member's.

SmittySue

03/30/2005, 18:12

Originally posted by bootkneelee
It's kind of like that guy, who when everyone wanted to stone that chick for doinging something wrong, and he said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and eveyone just dropped their rocks and went home.... we are all guilty of doing silly things, and we should not be written off for them...

I still don't have to feel sorry for her or that person. I don't think anyone has said go flog her or put her in jail for taking an illegal drug. We just don't feel any sympathy for her, for what she did.

If WK or the Realms was going to kick her off the boards or ban her from playing WK's games that would be different.

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 18:14

All I Can say is, this is what has been missing from the realm!!! People talking about something with conviction! And it seems that it took Sandra to bring that old feeling back.

Thank each and everyone of you who feel the way you do and express it without just dropping down to the "I know you are but what am I"

Sandra our spirits [except for the hatas] will always be with you and we hope yours will be with us:sleep:

de4dp00l

03/30/2005, 18:19

Just for the record, I despite being vehementy against the use of illegal drugs, I do feel sympathy for Sandra and anybody who hurts themselves with/because of drugs. I sincerely hope that she comes through this OK, one way or another. I guess I'm just a little worried about the casual attitude some people have about what she did.

Talezine

03/30/2005, 18:24

I feel one is allowed to judge an action. Yes, she did something wrong. She took a drug that was illegal, knowingly. That is, in a purely metaphysical statement, human failing (sin). It is fallen nature. She erred.

However, the fact that she is suffering is sad. You can dislike the fact of WHAT she did, but she is still human. She deserves compassion. Sympathy is NOT giving acceptance to what was done, but to feel emotion of what occurred.

Yes, you may not have tried drugs...but is there other things that you have done? Have you destroyed a person emotionally by gossip? Have you broken the trust of someone by a lie? Have you destroyed a persons future relations by having sex outside of marriage, and then leaving them? You see, these are all actions that other individuals would see to being as harmful as taking drugs. None of them are "excusable". It is just that when WE do them, we rationalise. When others do them, we are scandalized.

Remember, what she did may be wrong. But the fact that she is now suffering from this is a sad consequence. And for that, I feel sorry for her, and hope she recovers soon. As I hope that others have prayed for my poor desicions and actions that I am unaware of.

Remember "Except by the Grace of God, there go I".

Just my thoughts.

Superfro

03/30/2005, 18:30

Originally posted by bootkneelee
All I Can say is, this is what has been missing from the realm!!! People talking about something with conviction! And it seems that it took Sandra to bring that old feeling back.

Well thank goodness because if there was anything she was short on, it was undue credit.

-hata :cheeky:

SofaKingWhat

03/30/2005, 18:30

Originally posted by Talezine
knowingly.

And you know this how? What if one of these 40 somethings who are jelous of her attention slipped her something.

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 18:33

Originally posted by Talezine
I feel one is allowed to judge an action. Yes, she did something wrong. She took a drug that was illegal, knowingly. That is, in a purely metaphysical statement, human failing (sin). It is fallen nature. She erred.

However, the fact that she is suffering is sad. You can dislike the fact of WHAT she did, but she is still human. She deserves compassion. Sympathy is NOT giving acceptance to what was done, but to feel emotion of what occurred.

Yes, you may not have tried drugs...but is there other things that you have done? Have you destroyed a person emotionally by gossip? Have you broken the trust of someone by a lie? Have you destroyed a persons future relations by having sex outside of marriage, and then leaving them? You see, these are all actions that other individuals would see to being as harmful as taking drugs. None of them are "excusable". It is just that when WE do them, we rationalise. When others do them, we are scandalized.

Remember, what she did may be wrong. But the fact that she is now suffering from this is a sad consequence. And for that, I feel sorry for her, and hope she recovers soon. As I hope that others have prayed for my poor desicions and actions that I am unaware of.

Remember "Except by the Grace of God, there go I".

Just my thoughts.

Amen...

and if I may add

"Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged"

Talezine

03/30/2005, 18:36

Sandra was on the receiving end of what we can determine to be a very bad or highly effective Omega.

I state knowingly due to the fact that they identified what type of drug it was so specifically, and that it was "bad" or "highly effective". So, most likely it was something she knew she took, but it gave her an unexpected result. (The statement almost makes it seem she had taken it before, and that this was the first time she had suce a reaction)

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 18:41

Originally posted by SofaKingWhat
And you know this how? What if one of these 40 somethings who are jelous of her attention slipped her something.

I should point out that she did in fact knowingly purchase it. The message that it was meant to be relayed by my telling all of you everything was "Don't do what she did".

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 18:44

Question:

Did Roy [of Siegfried and Roy] get what he deserved when that White Tiger went buck wild and shredded him?
:rolleyes:

Gabe Sapien

03/30/2005, 18:45

if this is true then i hope the Wu gets well soon.

if this is all a gentle ruse... then i would like for everyone to join in on a topic appropriate(sp?) sing along!!

a five six seven eight:

twenty twenty twenty four hours to goooo, i wanna be sedated.
nothin' to do nowhere to go-oh-o, i wanna be sedated.
hurry hurry hurry, get me on a plane
i cant control my fingers, i cant control my brain oh no oh oh oh oh!!!!
bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam, i wanna be sedateeeeedddd.
:)

Mr. Gone

03/30/2005, 18:45

Best wishes for a fast recovery.

FaithlessOne

03/30/2005, 18:46

Originally posted by bootkneelee
Question:

Did Roy [of Siegfried and Roy] get what he deserved when that White Tiger went buck wild and shredded him?
:rolleyes:

Well, to be honest... Yes. You want to try and tame a bunch of wild animals... eventually, they will BE animals.

Cause and effect.

sockmonkee

03/30/2005, 18:50

Originally posted by bootkneelee
Question:

Did Roy [of Siegfried and Roy] get what he deserved when that White Tiger went buck wild and shredded him?
:rolleyes:

YES!:laugh:

Cell

03/30/2005, 18:50

yes. If you mess around with Wild Beasts, in an enviroment not normal to them, it is natural that they shred you. Tigers should run free in the jungle, not jump hoops in Vegas.

Oh and Im not a SWS fan, but if this is true then its a bad situation. To Knowinly take drugs means you have much more deeper problems with your personal life, or your family members. I wish her the best and takes care of her personal deamons

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 18:53

THOMAS5

03/30/2005, 18:56

Originally posted by freakazoid_x
As many of you know I have been taking care of the Realms business of my good friend, Sandra WuSan.

{What the heck does this mean?}

Anyway after hearing reports from people who are there with her in Florida during this time,
I have been urged to give you full disclosure, as I knew it.

Sandra was on the receiving end of what we can determine to be a very bad or highly effective Omega.
Unfortunately she then took a knife and started to cut herself.

I feel sorry for her.

X and Acid, herion and coke, etc
are all drugs that shouldn't be tried even once.

She was a nice looking girl,
(if those pictures were her),
how can somebody (like that) be so bored (?), whatever,
to put their life in the hands of a Drug Dealer?

Why trust somebody who hurts people for a living?

I wish she would have lived in my hometown,
I would have told her that #### is not worth it.

Beer (vodka) can do the job, if you need to fell a buzz,
while hanging out with friends, playing and laughing, whatever.

Even weed has made some of my long-time friends
more stupid, more paranoid, more out-of-touch,
than they used to be.

If a hot chick wants to get with you,
and wants you to do hard drugs,
I hope you are all strong enough to say No.
(if she tempts you with weed, then it's your call)
(it's hard to turn down, when you want to get her)
(but how can you be sure that your drug dealer
hasn't laced your weed with some #### that you can't notice?)

Get well Sandra.

Enjoy life cleanly.

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 18:59

Originally posted by Cell
yes. If you mess around with Wild Beasts, in an enviroment not normal to them, it is natural that they shred you. Tigers should run free in the jungle, not jump hoops in Vegas.

Oh and Im not a SWS fan, but if this is true then its a bad situation. To Knowinly take drugs means you have much more deeper problems with your personal life, or your family members. I wish her the best and takes care of her personal deamons

beg to differ [BETCHA DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING] I knowingly drink alcohol to have a good time and I don't have a problem [although the people who saw me toss my cookies in and outside of the club last Friday seem to think so] I wanna say you can do just about anything as long as it's not in excess, but I know that's not totally true...

Why do I wanna listen to the Beatles Daytripper right now???

Funky Jett

03/30/2005, 19:00

I guess I'm just a jaded 40-something old man that just can't get this line out of my head --
"Simone: Ferris Bueller's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."

sockmonkee

03/30/2005, 19:07

Originally posted by Funky Jett
I guess I'm just a jaded 40-something old man that just can't get this line out of my head --
"Simone: Ferris Bueller's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."

40-something? Honestly I thought you didn't look a day over 38 ;) Oh And your not jaded Just misunderstood.

Funky Jett

03/30/2005, 19:08

Originally posted by sockmonkee
40-something? Honestly I thought you didn't look a day over 38 ;) Oh And your not jaded Just misunderstood.
lol...

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 19:13

Originally posted by sockmonkee
40-something? Honestly I thought you didn't look a day over 38 ;) Oh And your not jaded Just misunderstood.

Don't let them get to you old timer I mean Funky, I'll be 39 this year and I know what you mean, back in our day, I mean back in the day, aw just forget it!

sockmonkee

03/30/2005, 19:19

Originally posted by bootkneelee
Don't let them get to you old timer I mean Funky, I'll be 39 this year and I know what you mean, back in our day, I mean back in the day, aw just forget it!

Heck I'm the one who feels old I have Dentures for Pete's sake!

Fantomex007

03/30/2005, 19:45

So what realms business is freakazoid handling for sws? Did she take over wizkids?

freakazoid_x

03/30/2005, 19:54

Originally posted by Fantomex007
So what realms business is freakazoid handling for sws? Did she take over wizkids?

Her trades. I am dealing with her trades.

NotYou

03/30/2005, 19:59

Originally posted by freakazoid_x
Anyway the effects of this caused her to “freak out” and believe there were worms or bugs beneath her skin. Unfortunately she then took a knife and started to cut herself.

Seriously:
I hope she gets well soon.

Slightly less seriously:
But what if she wasn't freaking out?
What if it simply raised her awareness to the point where she
realised that there were bugs under her skin?
Are they checking for the bugs?

ShinobiSteve81

03/30/2005, 20:20

Drugs are bad mmkay? And I know Sandra smoked weed coz I remember some weed smokin innuendos in her past posts, and I have talked to her on IM about smokin goodness, coz I do so myself. But tha's as far as I go with anything, there's no need for other #### (oh wait I can say carp even tho its a filter bypass and not get warned, tha's right!)....and on this note:

Originally posted by THOMAS5

Beer (vodka) can do the job, if you need to fell a buzz,
while hanging out with friends, playing and laughing, whatever.

Even weed has made some of my long-time friends
more stupid, more paranoid, more out-of-touch,
than they used to be.

Beer, Vodka, whatever alcoholic does the job. But it can also kill you too. When was the last time someone died from smokin some bongs, blunts, or bowls? Can't recall any.....I hate hate HATE when people bring up alcohol as something to do besides any sort of drugs, coz its JUST AS BAD IF NOT WORSE!!!

Puuka

03/30/2005, 20:24

Originally posted by bootkneelee
If you are one of the 2 people on this site who's never taken any form of drugs than I salute you. But in or modern day society we take all kinds of drugs everyday, from that cup of cofee in the morning to the glass of wine to get you through the afternoon or that cigarette to calm your nerves, and if you are under the care of a doctor then I'm sure you are taking some form of drugs, you have a headache, then pop some aspirin, and if you are into recreational drugs then party on.

All I am saying is don't take that holier than thou attitude. If you've never ever crossed the line then I salute all you goody two shoes, but if you are human then I am sure at some pooint in your life you will do something that the next day you will regret. All I hope and pray is that whatever it is that you do, that you are able to bounce back from it an use it as a learning experience.

Now let me get off of this dang soap box, I'm getting a head ache and my coffess cold and I need a shot of something!!

Who is my brother in Drug Free-edness?

NotYou

03/30/2005, 20:31

Originally posted by Puuka
Who is my brother in Drug Free-edness?
Not even Caffeine from those nasty soft drinks?

jedah_s

03/30/2005, 20:43

best wishes to sws
i know bashing her is what the cool kids do, but she was always nice enough to me.

on a side note...

Originally posted by NotYou
Slightly less seriously:
But what if she wasn't freaking out?
What if it simply raised her awareness to the point where she
realised that there were bugs under her skin?
Are they checking for the bugs?

that made me lol :laugh:

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 20:47

Man I wish I was off work so I can go get some Vodka and Kool-Aide OH YEAH!:eek:

sockmonkee

03/30/2005, 20:52

Originally posted by jedah_s
best wishes to sws
i know bashing her is what the cool kids do

Wait I thought all the cool kids were taking drugs? Thats what they said in school "come on Monkee All the cool kids are doing it"

jedah_s

03/30/2005, 21:02

i was never cool, i've only heard stories about all the things cool kids do.

NEVERMORE

03/30/2005, 21:06

Here is some information about Omega that I got from a friend in DEA. Omega is one of the street name for an "X" look a like. MOST of the time it is "X" or "X" like but Omega is a designer made meaning that it can be mix with other drugs like acid or even the date #### drug. Which can cause serious and in some case fatal reactions.

bootkneelee

03/30/2005, 21:09

Personally from a Bibical stand, I don't like the name "Omega" for a drug, I mean Omega is the end... I'd rather have "Alpha" causethat would be the beginning, but I guess that could mean the begininning of the end and that wouldn't be good:confused: :noid: :ermm: :surprised

NEVERMORE

03/30/2005, 21:10

I not sure why the filter didn't like one of my word but the word that was filtered is to attack a person in a sexual way. Please no warning point for trying to protect people.

Funky Jett

03/30/2005, 21:10

NEVERMORE

03/30/2005, 21:13

Well talking to my bubby with this being spring break time he was worried that with it mixing ability it may have more fatal reaction. Making the drug named correctly Omega or "the end".

ShinobiSteve81

03/30/2005, 21:30

Originally posted by NEVERMORE
Well talking to my bubby with this being spring break time he was worried that with it mixing ability it may have more fatal reaction. Making the drug named correctly Omega or "the end".

Which is, IMO, more of a "too bad, so sad" case if thats what it turns out to be. I've no respect for people that screw up their lives with hard drugs, or even those that push using light drugs, or drinking too far. I've had friends that I've lost to oxycotons (however you spell it) and E, and even tho I tried to still stick with em and steer them right, it didn't happen. An I got my own problems in life without havin to worry about other peoples, so meh. To each their own.

I Am The Game

03/30/2005, 21:54

Guys, SWS made a mistake. We all agree she screwed up, and she'll tell you the same when she gets back. She probably hadn't met anyone personally who'd had a bad reaction to a party drug, and thought it was safe. Now that she had to go through this, Sandra and everyone she knows will think twice before taking anything like that again.

Give her your wishes and your prayers. If she goes back for more of the same, then I'll join you in condemning her.

Frontman

03/30/2005, 21:56

From a person who has watched loved ones fall under the influence and both win and loose this type of battle:

Get well soon, Sandra. Know at the end of the day, you've got at least this Frontman in your corner. I'm sure Freak as well as others are as well.

To all those passing judgement; ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves. Seriously. Saying "Well, she got what she deserved" or whatever apathetic carp that spews from your mouth, go stick that where the sun doesn't shine. No one makes these poor choices without falling short of using good judgment. HOWEVER, once they've gotten their help, they need love, support, and encouragement, not "she was an attention ##### anyway," type comments.

Noone is above falling victim of wants and desires. Noone is above making a horrible decision and forever changing their lives. I've been lucky. My worst addiction is spending too much money on my hobbies. But, my father did not get so lucky. His was alchohol, and now, he's dead. He died alone of a massive coronary, at only 56 years old. He abused his body, and did not care what a substance like alcholol did for it. His heart was shot, and his liver was destroyed. For the poet who said "beer doesn't kill."

Yeah right.

shazam256

03/30/2005, 21:59

She will be in my prayers tonight. Get well Sandra and hopefully you will be okay.:)

Fantomex007

03/30/2005, 22:13

Ok here is a opinion/question: Seeing that she has trades pending why isnt anyone starting the witch hunt? Because she is female? I know if I had trades pending and didnt respond to anyone then someone came on here and said i was in the hospital for a drug problem people would be jumping on the bad trader thread about how bad i am and how I need to honor my trades. Secondly people are posting that they have imed her and talked drugs before. Obviously she has a problem, BUT its a problem she has brought upon herself. And she is a moderator?? Who is the genius that made that decision? So theres my 2 cents and there is no sympathy here, sorry

MrsGouda

03/30/2005, 22:14

I will make a quick statement. I belong to many BBs, and I have to say that here, a game site, I find some of the most understanding, faithful, and good natured posters. I also find most posters to be honest, friendly, and have the aptitude to give level headed arguments. Even when being harsh, it is calm compared to other sites.

I have to admit...I am amazed that I find this on such a site. For all of those that take pot-shots at us games...I dare them to find another group like this.

And to SWS: You are also in my families prayers tonight. Pass that note along if you would like. It is only fare that she hears what we say about her since you shared her problems.

Frontman

03/30/2005, 22:21

Here here to MrsGouda. Thanks for reminding me we're supposed to be here as a community.

Fantomex brings up that SWS is a mod. Makes you go hmmmm when it comes to someone being bitter about not being one.....

Fantomex007

03/30/2005, 22:25

Actually I dont have time for that, i work a full time job thanks for the nomination though

Frontman

03/30/2005, 22:26

You do have a bunch of time to complain about SWS though. And no, sorry, I wouldn't nominate you to moderate the banned list, much less the site.

Fantomex007

03/30/2005, 22:27

Wow someone leads a rough life.....

Fantomex007

03/30/2005, 22:31

Here is something to think about.... Lets say SWS has a car and makes car payments, do you think the car company is going to care that she has a drug problem? Of course not, well trading on here is a comparison not on the same scale but still a comparison. The car company will want their money when its due and people who have sent her trades I am sure want the same.

Frontman

03/30/2005, 22:38

Originally posted by Fantomex007
Here is something to think about.... Lets say SWS has a car and makes car payments, do you think the car company is going to care that she has a drug problem? Of course not, well trading on here is a comparison not on the same scale but still a comparison. The car company will want their money when its due and people who have sent her trades I am sure want the same.

It's called good faith, there Fantomex007. Something I do believe you were shouting from the mountaintop not more than a day or two ago at Wizkids about LE's.

And, in this little thing I like to call reality, yes the car company would want their money, but also work with people who have trouble making a payment or two. They don't show up and demand the car back right after your payment is late.

My point is, only the weak kick a person when they are down. The strong are the one's who help them to their feet.

The Frontman

JPV>BW

03/30/2005, 22:39

The Qwardian

03/30/2005, 22:45

Originally posted by Frontman
Makes you go hmmmm when it comes to someone being bitter about not being one.....

HECK YEAH!!!!!!:angry::disappoin :nervous:

1164

03/30/2005, 22:45

Originally posted by Superfro
If that is the case, and it was taken intentionally, then it is both pathetic and lame. I would have no sympathy for that at all.

Speaking of being pathetic and lame...have you ever heard of unintentional irony?

NotYou

03/30/2005, 23:00

Originally posted by Fantomex007
Ok here is a opinion/question: Seeing that she has trades pending why isnt anyone starting the witch hunt? Because she is female? I know if I had trades pending and didnt respond to anyone then someone came on here and said i was in the hospital for a drug problem people would be jumping on the bad trader thread about how bad i am and how I need to honor my trades. Secondly people are posting that they have imed her and talked drugs before. Obviously she has a problem, BUT its a problem she has brought upon herself. And she is a moderator?? Who is the genius that made that decision? So theres my 2 cents and there is no sympathy here, sorry
Or you could've just read the thread instead of being a jerk.
Then you'd know freakazoid_x was dealing with her trades.
It is not necessarily obvious she has a problem.
She's someone who has done drugs a few times.
Statistically ecstasy can be safer than aspirin.
She also goes dancing...does she have a dance problem?
Probably drunk some alcohol...does she have a drink problem?
There's no evidence for how obsessively she does drugs at all.
Now taking drugs isn't something that is without risk so yes,
that much she did bring on herself, but statistically if it
weren't for a dodgy batch, she'd probably be fine.
Unless she tries to moderate while high, there's no reason
to believe it inhibits her work.
So what are you basing your bitterness on exactly?

Frontman

03/30/2005, 23:04

I think he's moved on NotYou. Logical comments and questions like mine and yours tend to stop rants of this kind. Or else turn them up higher. But, considering to rage on a person undergoing drug treatment is pretty low, I'd expect to get bashed by him for asking.

Meh. Again, SWS, keep strong. We're all hoping and praying for you.

Peace.

The Frontman

jedah_s

03/30/2005, 23:06

Originally posted by NotYou

Unless she tries to moderate while high, there's no reason
to believe it inhibits her work.

the realms would certainly be an interesting place if some of the other mods attempted this.

Fantomex007

03/30/2005, 23:15

:cry:

K-ness

03/30/2005, 23:19

Originally posted by sockmonkee
Wait I thought all the cool kids were taking drugs? Thats what they said in school "come on Monkee All the cool kids are doing it" Waaaaaiiiiiit.... I thought all of the kids called you "Sock" in school?

sockmonkee

03/30/2005, 23:32

Originally posted by K-ness
Waaaaaiiiiiit.... I thought all of the kids called you "Sock" in school?
Dang it! Busted! OK so I never went to school.

I was to high on Drugs.;)

Socko

03/30/2005, 23:37

'twas me.

WakandaMan

03/30/2005, 23:51

Hey, freakzoid pass on my best wishes. Sandra will certainly be in my prayers until I hear she has recovered. All the best for her.

To everyone else...yes it probably was a stupid choice to take those drugs, but like others have already mentioned, all of us make stupid choices. Trying ti justify our choices as 'not as stupid' as Sandra's doesn't mean that they don't cause damage. We are all human and she is paying the penalty for that now- and no doubt that penalty is FAR FAR greater than she deserves for it. As a fellow human being, and someone that we all know at least a little, she deserves our sympathy.

God be with you, SWS.

absolutvt69

03/30/2005, 23:53

I try to stay out of these highly polarized threads but I really think this thread should stop being about "Illegal drugs are bad" or "This might not be true" or "She got we she deserved". I think we all know when you take an illegal drug there's a risk involved (hell there's risks involved when you take legal ones too). I think we also all know that we've done things that weren't too smart. Maybe the consequences weren't as severe or maybe we there weren't any but that doesn't make our judgement any better. I'll get to the point. If a young woman really is laying somewhere in a hospital right now b/c of problems with some sort of illegal drugs that's really sad. Could it have been prevented? Yes. Does that make it any easier on her family and loved ones? No. The people coming in here and saying "It's her own fault she got what she deserved" lack this thing we call empathy. You don't have to be all "Oh poor Sandra" and in tears but at least have enough respect for her family and friends to not be a jerk about it b/c guess what, next time it might be your sister or your girlfriend or your daughter. And if it turns out that someone's pulling a hoax... well karma's a ..... ya know. I've said enough on that subject and I'll just say that I'll keep her and her family in my prayers.

Darth Sabre

03/30/2005, 23:56

Originally posted by Fantomex007
Ok here is a opinion/question: Seeing that she has trades pending why isnt anyone starting the witch hunt? Because she is female? I know if I had trades pending and didnt respond to anyone then someone came on here and said i was in the hospital for a drug problem people would be jumping on the bad trader thread about how bad i am and how I need to honor my trades. Secondly people are posting that they have imed her and talked drugs before. Obviously she has a problem, BUT its a problem she has brought upon herself. And she is a moderator?? Who is the genius that made that decision? So theres my 2 cents and there is no sympathy here, sorry

It has nothing to do with her being a female. It has to do with the fact that until now, there was no reason to believe that there was anythnig to worry about. She has an pretty extensive GT thread, and as with all good traders, you give them the benefit of the doubt, unless, they give you a reason not to.

So if it were you, did you do something to make people question your trade credibility? No?

Then what exactly are you #####ing about?

absolutvt69

03/31/2005, 00:00

Originally posted by Fantomex007
Ok here is a opinion/question: Seeing that she has trades pending why isnt anyone starting the witch hunt? Because she is female? I know if I had trades pending and didnt respond to anyone then someone came on here and said i was in the hospital for a drug problem people would be jumping on the bad trader thread about how bad i am and how I need to honor my trades. Secondly people are posting that they have imed her and talked drugs before. Obviously she has a problem, BUT its a problem she has brought upon herself. And she is a moderator?? Who is the genius that made that decision? So theres my 2 cents and there is no sympathy here, sorry

And here is my 2 cents... there are some things more important in this world than little plastic superheroes and if you can't see that then I feel sorry for you. I seriously doubt that at this point the biggest concern on Sandra's mind is "Gee I hope someone doesn't start a bad trader thread on HCRealms". Some people need to get their priorities straight.

DOOMSTRIKER

03/31/2005, 00:05

well this whole situation suks, i do feel bad for her, i know what its like, i used to take "recreational" drugs, and it almost killed me, twice i had a heart attack, and it was a bad experience to say the least, i realy hope she gets better, and learns from her mistake, until then my best wishes go out to her and her family

GoldenAge

03/31/2005, 00:18

You'd think that the plastic crack woulda been enough for her. :rolleyes:

Superfro

03/31/2005, 00:28

Originally posted by 1164
Speaking of being pathetic and lame...have you ever heard of unintentional irony?

No, but I welcome you to explain.

CarlosMucha

03/31/2005, 00:30

DOOMSTRIKER

03/31/2005, 00:36

the thing is Carlos, its the right and human thing, to feel sympathy for another being. (even if they do try to act like a tough guy and say "i dont care what anyone thinks about me" ) its ok to not openly feel sad about it, it wont affect your life at all, but think about her parents, and the way they must feel

CarlosMucha

03/31/2005, 00:42

Look, I'm sure she DON't want us all be pity about her. She always like show to all she is strong, beauty, independent, when I always know how a person like she is. If this is exactly like I think, is a consecuecia of thigs what she do, and the way she is nothing more.

I want see her ok again, just as a human be, but she don't have solution, and she never will like the compation of the fellow clikers, she want be a Queen , no a friend.

CarlosMucha

03/31/2005, 00:45

And I do feel afect by this, I'm not always wish the best for her, and now she is in that way. I don't fell ok about it. But that is your me.

DOOMSTRIKER

03/31/2005, 00:48

lol, well i was kinda trying to say this before, but no matter what mask someone wheres on the outside, when you strip everything away we are all just frightened animals who are affraid of the end, when you see "death" square on, you will understand that, anyone can say or act however they want, but that doesnt change what you are in the grand view of things, what im saying is that she may act one way on the realms here, but for real this whole sittuation probablly has her shaken up pretty bad, and i know what its like to be affraid, so i feel for her

qc_mohawks

03/31/2005, 00:50

although i wish no will ill on anyone......i just cant bring myself to feel sorry for anyone who ODs taking illegal drugs willingly.

Crispy331

03/31/2005, 00:51

Get well ms wu san...you're in all of our thoughts...take care

:)

CarlosMucha

03/31/2005, 00:57

and finally I hope she become a bether person after this :sleep:

NathanielEssex

03/31/2005, 01:19

I've also seen the effects of freak-outs due to drugs, if that's indeed what happened. Some close friends of mine wanted to try lsd and wanted me there to watch out for them should they go over the edge. I expressed my opinion that I thought it best they not even try the drug but would take care of them should they make up their own mind to go through with it. As scary as it is to see the effects second hand, I dare not speculate what it would be like to experience it all first hand.
Whether the freakout is self induced through drugs or something else entirely, I'm still worried. Whether her fault or not, the deed was done and now she's dealing with the consequences. I just hope that the consequences are things she can grow past and through and learn from.
Whatever the situation is with Sandra, she is missed and I hope that she will make a speedy recovery. This could be a lesson learning, wake up call sitation for her. I consider you all my friends and I count her in that number.

SuperGENE

03/31/2005, 01:25

There's way too much negativity on this thread. A girl did some bad E and now she's bananas. It's not like she killed a whole bunch of people!

Anyway, I hope she gets better soon. Doing recreational drugs doesn't make you a bad person. If you want to be positive about this and wisah her well, I invite you to in the Get Well SWS Thread (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130490) I just posted. The rest of you can keep your negative thoughts here.

NEVERMORE

03/31/2005, 01:59

Originally posted by ShinobiSteve81
Which is, IMO, more of a "too bad, so sad" case if thats what it turns out to be. I've no respect for people that screw up their lives with hard drugs, or even those that push using light drugs, or drinking too far. I've had friends that I've lost to oxycotons (however you spell it) and E, and even tho I tried to still stick with em and steer them right, it didn't happen. An I got my own problems in life without havin to worry about other peoples, so meh. To each their own.

Don't jump to a conclucion so fast. This Omega can be mixed with a date r-ape drug which means it can be added to a drink and dissolved in liquids. If she willing took this stuff I hope she get some help if this was given to her with her knowing I hope karma comes around to give this person their own little personal hell. Either way I hope Sandra gets better.

Bob_Wk

03/31/2005, 03:17

lets start a a list

wizkids hires people they ban from their site to lawyer rules

wizkids also lets drugged out attention #####s ban people

:laugh:

I'm no pope.....dont claim to be either

I've done some drugs in my heyday and badtime highs are not fun. If this isn't a hoax i feel bad and I'm probably going to the negative zone .....but i was already going there because i tried to feed Terri Schiavo a dead baby and some heroclix doubles grinded in a fine paste.

Anyways hope the "person" behind the SWS moniker wasnt drugged if not Drugs are ugly and Rehab centers smell clean.

I still smell rat stew

DOOMSTRIKER

03/31/2005, 03:35

wow Bob your a bastard, but all that aside you have the coolest avatar ive ever seen

kitsunekaboom

03/31/2005, 03:43

As the closest thing to a straight edger this board probably sees, I have to say a few things.

First off, you unsympathetic pricks who are basically saying "she got what she deserved" are complete and total fragging jackasses. (I'd say worse, but it would an entire sentence of "######## #### ####" etc. looks silly on these boards.) Nobody deserves that sort of thing. Not One Person. I wouldn't wish that sort of #### on the people I hate most.

That being said, I hope she recovers well and learns from this. Most of these poisons fed to us as drugs aren't worth it. Not alcohol, not cigarettes, not any of the various narcotics. Heck I question most of the things prescribed by psychiatrists these days.

Bob_Wk

03/31/2005, 03:43

like ludacris preaches

"I'm gunnin fo dat numba one spot"

a hoax of a hoax.......what an grand novel idea?

I'm gonna write a Thesis on it

Deadpoolica

03/31/2005, 04:16

I agree with kitsunekaboom. I don't do drugs. I try to persuade all my friends to stay away from it. I've seen drugs ruin lives. And i tell people this. I say, please, be the one to listen to me. Don't do drugs. But you know what, whether they listen or not they are a person, usually a good person and deserve an honest shot to make up for their mistakes. I don't know sandra, never have. But don't condemn someone for doing drugs. If anything just try to be a positive force to help pull them away from drugs.

Smurf's Up

03/31/2005, 04:55

Heroclix wasn't enough crack eh? LoL!:laugh:

warden

03/31/2005, 05:26

I've always enjoyed Sandra's unique contributions to this community and hope that she will soon be well enough to rejoin us.

Andrew

wes_man21

03/31/2005, 06:16

Well after reading the first few pages of this post and the last it seems like she took some X that either had some LSD or some other type of drug that she didnt know she was taking. My own history with drugs is that yes you can freak out and they can change you a bit but its not like she wanted it to happen or anything. It sucks plain and simple and yes she is responsible because she took it but no one has the right to degrade her actions or the results from them. All you can do for someone that this thing happens to is pray and hope for a good ending and that a lesson is learned. Sandra was always nice to me in brief posts exchanged and I can only feel for what has happened to her. I think the rest of the hc realms community should do the same. Don't abandon a player because they are different than you, I mean come on we are all different and do different things right? The only thing we have in common is heroclix, plain and simple. I hope you are okay Sandra.

Wes

Dr Mid-Knight

03/31/2005, 07:39

Sounds like Darkseid may be involved.

1164

03/31/2005, 07:45

Originally posted by Superfro
No, but I welcome you to explain.

Look in the mirror.

Dr Mid-Knight

03/31/2005, 07:48

On a side note of my fantasy of Darkseid hitting SWS with his Omega beams, I've read through a few pages of this thread and I'm suprised such a big deal is being made of her personal life (drug speculation etc etc). I'm not a big fan of drugs wouldn't even take painkillers when Andy Hurricane wrenched my neck with a Swinging neckbreaker in the summer of 2001).

If you're concerned fine, but speculating as to the cause is a bit low. Unless she killed someone you know while under the influence of a drug or used the mind altering effects of a drug to win a Heroclix game, speculation by strangers over the internet is a bit of a no-no on a Heroclix forum. Speak your peace if you have it but this isn't a sewing circle and we're not middle aged women on FDAC.

Rocket Ranger

03/31/2005, 07:48

Ok, everyone, here's a great chance to practice the one thing Sandra needs right now: compassion.

We don't know everything that happened. I, personally, don't understand the desire to even try any kind of drug. However, I've got my own areas of weakness as do we all. The point is, there is no call for any kind of post saying Sandra "got what she deserved." That's entirely not up for us to decide. In fact, if you can't just wish her some sort of encouraging post, I suggest keeping your fingers off the keyboard.

All that being said, I hope that this makes every single one of you out there using even the most "innocent" of recreational drugs stop and really re-consider what you're doing to yourself and those around ya, and I'm talkin' to the teens, college kids AND adults. There's a reason most drugs are illegal. There's a reason there's such a campaign against the use of the stuff in our country. It ain't "cool" to use 'em. They don't "fix" anything. Ya know what kind of stories are connected to using? Very sad ones like this.

Keep yer chin up, Sandra! You're in my thoughts and prayers!

1164

03/31/2005, 07:55

Originally posted by Rocket Ranger
Ok, everyone, here's a great chance to practice the one thing Sandra needs right now: compassion.

We don't know everything that happened. I, personally, don't understand the desire to even try any kind of drug. However, I've got my own areas of weakness as do we all. The point is, there is no call for any kind of post saying Sandra "got what she deserved." That's entirely not up for us to decide. In fact, if you can't just wish her some sort of encouraging post, I suggest keeping your fingers off the keyboard.

All that being said, I hope that this makes every single one of you out there using even the most "innocent" of recreational drugs stop and really re-consider what you're doing to yourself and those around ya, and I'm talkin' to the teens, college kids AND adults. There's a reason most drugs are illegal. There's a reason there's such a campaign against the use of the stuff in our country. It ain't "cool" to use 'em. They don't "fix" anything. Ya know what kind of stories are connected to using? Very sad ones like this.

Keep yer chin up, Sandra! You're in my thoughts and prayers!

Well said Ranger. Its a pity so many small people on this forum get their rocks off by kicking a person when they're down. Big men....not...

Dr Mid-Knight

03/31/2005, 07:58

Originally posted by Bob_Wk
like ludacris preaches

"I'm gunnin fo dat numba one spot"

a hoax of a hoax.......what an grand novel idea?

I'm gonna write a Thesis on it

Wait, did you just use completely irrelevant ebonics to comment?

ReZourceman

03/31/2005, 08:25

Originally posted by Cell
To Knowinly take drugs means you have much more deeper problems with your personal life, or your family members.

Eeeerrrr.....what?

wow....where are you getting that information from because its wrong bub. :rolleyes:

FoxInStocks

03/31/2005, 09:23

Originally posted by freakazoid_x
Animals have the right to ride around in tiny cars until I'm tired of watching them and want to make a sandwich from them.

I don't think that's EXACTLY how it goes. ;)

tidge

03/31/2005, 09:44

Ok, I skipped about 10 pages...

Stimulants (along with a variety of 'dietary suppliments') taken for weight loss can easily lead to a variety of effects. This includes psychotic hallucinations.

The nature of the interaction between these drugs and the brain make it easy to overdose. They are also highly addictive. Victims of psychotic hallucinations are prone to seriously injure themselves, but I don't believe that they are more likely intentionally suicidal than anybody else.

It is also trivial to purchase the prescription drugs from online vendors.

If anyone has any interest in Congressional efforts to fight a source of prescription drugs, Democratic House Member Waxman's office (from California) has been trying for years.

Dr Mid-Knight

03/31/2005, 10:10

haha anyone read the links at the bottom of this page? All the talk about drugs has led the forum computer to display links to all sorts of drug information/dealers/rehab clinics.

Roffleskates.

Ro-gan

03/31/2005, 10:30

Originally posted by azs
That would be a really tasteless april fools day joke for someone to come here and tell everyone that a person was really sick, or worse, dead, and think that it was actually funny.

With that said: let's all remember the twisted thinking of Basil_Elks who came on here with the name Lark Faquente (sp?) and faked his own beating and ruptured testicle story.

I am not saying that SWS is doing this! Far from it. I am just saying that there was someone here who thought a joke like that was funny. Ahh... Basil... what made you tick? :ermm:

AZS

03/31/2005, 10:31

Originally posted by Rocket Ranger
Ok, everyone, here's a great chance to practice the one thing Sandra needs right now: compassion.Thank you RR, that is the point that many people are missing.

LET ME MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR.

This thread is not the place to berate someone for a poor choice. We've all made bad choices at one time. Some are worse than others, and some have harsher consequences.

Anyone who revels in the pain or misfortune of others is a base human being. If you don't have enough class to show a little compassion, then don't post here. But anyone who comes to this thread to be a jack### is going to get warned accordingly.

RangedCombatEx

03/31/2005, 10:34

Personally I'm not a big Wu-San follower on these boards, but I do know a thing or two about self medicating and drug abuse as I've had my own personal issues in the past. I also consider myself lucky that my former behavior had less negative impact on myself than on many others I've known. I know that every situation is different and those with a "Holier that thou" attitude should stuff it, recognize that they may not know the whole story, and either remain quiet or offer support. With that said, I offer my support, but to Sandra's friends, I would be very concerned with the nature of what has occured.

Ro-gan

03/31/2005, 10:39

Originally posted by azs
This thread is not the place to berate someone for a poor choice. We've all made bad choices at one time. Some are worse than others, and some have harsher consequences.

Yeah. My STUPID and IDIOTIC choice was to marry the ##### that I did... :devious:

Dr Mid-Knight

03/31/2005, 10:41

Originally posted by ro_gan
Yeah. My STUPID and IDIOTIC choice was to marry the ##### that I did... :devious:

geez.

TheFreak

03/31/2005, 10:44

Originally posted by ro_gan
Yeah. My STUPID and IDIOTIC choice was to marry the ##### that I did... :devious:

Ditto.

LeaLu

03/31/2005, 10:47

Originally posted by ro_gan
With that said: let's all remember the twisted thinking of Basil_Elks who came on here with the name Lark Faquente (sp?) and faked his own beating and ruptured testicle story.

I am not saying that SWS is doing this! Far from it. I am just saying that there was someone here who thought a joke like that was funny. Ahh... Basil... what made you tick? :ermm:

Ruptured testicles are more funny than drug-induced freakouts, though.

Or maybe they're just funnier to me. :ermm:

That said, I've read this thread, and I've seen enough. I've been worrying myself sick over Sandra the past week or so, and this thread isn't helping at all. Not that anyone really cares whether I'm going to be following the various Wu-San-related threads, but I'd appreciate if people didn't PM me asking about her or ask me about her on AIM. Freakazoid_x is dealing with her trades and acting as an official mouthpiece, and at the moment I'm just as much an outsider as the rest of you. Regardless of what you believe about Sandra as a person, I'd hope that everyone can agree that a drug overdose is one of the worst things that can happen to someone you care about. Sandra is my closest friend on this site, and this is a lot to deal with. And no, I'm not looking for attention either- I'm not the one in the hospital, so send your sympathies to SWS, not to me. I just wanted to get this out there, because a lot of people know that we're close and have a tendency to come to me looking for information or gossip. I don't have any.

FoxInStocks

03/31/2005, 10:53

Originally posted by LeaLu
Ruptured testicles are more funny...

No, they ain't. :confused:

Dr Mid-Knight

03/31/2005, 10:53

Well Lealu if it'll make you feel better I can direct all gossip about me toward you to take your mind off it.
Of course you'll just get DoctorFate77 asking if I'm seeing anyone currently over and over again :p ;)

Superfro

03/31/2005, 11:28

Originally posted by 1164
Look in the mirror.

Ohhhh....snap!

Lesson learned. I now realize my opinion is wrong. Thank goodness an open public forum was where that was brought to my attention.

For the record I said in my original post "IF this was the case". Don't forget that we still have no idea what even happened 100%. IF we find that it's not exactly as described here, I may not still feel that way. IF it is exactly as described thus far, then my opinion still stands. And as much as it might upset you, my opinion is not wrong, as it is how I feel.

2 Gun Kid

03/31/2005, 12:27

Let me guess. Hyped up on Omega Sandra destroyed New York only to be killed by Wolverine. So she'll probably be back in a couple of weeks.

freakazoid_x

03/31/2005, 14:07

Originally posted by Superfro
Ohhhh....snap!

Lesson learned. I now realize my opinion is wrong. Thank goodness an open public forum was where that was brought to my attention.

For the record I said in my original post "IF this was the case". Don't forget that we still have no idea what even happened 100%. IF we find that it's not exactly as described here, I may not still feel that way. IF it is exactly as described thus far, then my opinion still stands. And as much as it might upset you, my opinion is not wrong, as it is how I feel.

Your opinion isn't wrong persay, just meaningless. I mean at this point your little l