Clix vs. Comix TOC! 31-35pts. Round 1 Match 7: MYSTIQUE VS. BLOB

[Magnito]

The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants Showdown!

I was playing Heroclix the other day, and building my team, I had 103 points left. I looked at my selection and realized that U HT Batman and R IC Hulk both cost the same. This got me thinking. Just because they are Heroclix equals doesn’t translate back translate back to comics. I think most of us would agree that Hulk could beat Batman in a fight.

That is the idea for this tournament. Every entry will be close to the same amount of points Heroclix wise, but this will be their comic forms fighting!

Rules:
This will be a standard single elimination tournament with 32 combatants. There will be 2 to a fight. They get no knowledge of each other (unless they have fought in the past). The only thing they get is the Heroclix figure of there enemies, and a PAC so they know what the opponent looks like and a bit about what they can do (this can be misleading however, like if they face Electro and think he will try to poison them). They will have 5 minutes to prepare. This is a fight to the death or KO, whichever happens first, and they must fight (no waiting for the opponent to die of starvation). They have with them what they normally carry and what there fig has if it is different. (Like how Bullseye doesn’t carry a gun, but he has one on the fig). If the fig that is being used is the rookie, you do NOT have to treat the fighter like that. (unless the characters powers change dramatically ie: Rouge)

When you vote, please try to justify your answer. You don’t have to write an essay, just a short explanation will do.

Terrain
There are 10 terrains that are all 5 miles in diameter. They will be chosen randomly.
With out further delay…

Mystique
fig from XP, 34pts.
vs.
Blob
fig from CT, 31pts.

Terrain:
Zombie City by The Red Baron
A city that has been covered in a strange cloud. This cloud has turned the city inhabitants into zombies. But wait, a few inhabitants remain and are stuck in the middle trying to get out. They few untouched have fortified a building and are waiting for the military to rescue them. This building is the only safe zone.

21-25pts. winner: Live Wire
26-30pts. winner: Zatanna

Round 1
Poison Ivy vs. Havok: Havok
Silver Sable vs. Ultimate Spider-Man: Silver Sable
Weather Wizard vs. Viper: Weather Wizard
Jean Grey vs. Sgt. Rock: Jean Grey
Hobgoblin vs. Arwyn: Hobgoblin
Torquemada vs. Blizzard: Blizzard
Mystique vs. Blob:

[Magnito]

MYSTIQUE
Mutant metamorph Mystique has had a variety of identities over the years, including Raven Darkholme and Mallory Brickman. She can perfectly duplicate anyone, down to their fingerprints and retina pattern. While in these guises, she infiltrates the US department of defense, using military secrets for her own criminal purposes. She led the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants and Freedom Force against the X-men and Avengers. Her mysterious past has wound its way through the lives of many X-men allies and enemies including her surrogate daughter Rogue, her friend Destiny, her lover Sabretooth, and her son, Nightcrawler.

BLOB
Working at the circus, Fred Dukes got the nickname the Blob; due to his mutant power over his own fat. As long as he stays on the ground, he is immobile and can absorb the inertia of bullets and blows. Originally contacted to join the X-men, Blob ended up with the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants instead and later with Freedom Force. Blob later went solo, fighting Spider-Man and Black Cat.

[Magnito]

Ain't this a fun little match. These 2 would know eachothers powers like the back of their hands. First things first. This terrain favors Mystique. She can easily blen with the Zombies or the survivors, while Blob will stick out. Mystique is also a lot smarter and craftier. On the other hand, her element of supprise is blown because Blob will be suspicios of everyone. Plus, he is alot harder to take out then she is. This really is a tough pick.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Mystique doesn't even have a way to really injure Blob, unfortunately. Her energy pistol doesn't pack that much punch and her topo-shifts (e.g.: giving herself claws) won't pierce Blob. I hav to give this to the Big Guy.

Vote: Blob

[Cryomancer]

If I can hear a good arguement how she'll hurt him I might change my vote but until then I dont see her hurting him at all. I vote Blob

[Magnito]

The reason I'm so hesitant to vaote for Blob is the Mystique knows him so well. She has ample ways of avoiding him in this terrain, and she is considerably smarter then him. I'm saying she will, but with all the time she wants, I think she could outwit him. Plus, to beat her, he has to find her, and that is a feat in itself.

[The Red Baron]

Well I vote they both die due to the fact that they cant fight the zombies. But I see Mystque holding out longer. so i vote for her

[NotYou]

They both know each other well.
But this means much more for Mystique than it does for Blob.
I don't think Blob could tag Mystique unless she did something
really dumb, but she would find it very hard to harm him.
When it comes down to it, she'll find a way to get some kind
of 10 second incap.
He's unmovable, not irresistable.
She'll get him to bury himself under a building or something.
Mystique to win.

[St-Dumas]

Is Blob's head invulnerable or just his fat? I haven't read enough comics with him.

[NotYou]

I think a poke in the eye causes him to wince.

[St-Dumas]

Alright, here's my thoughts:

Blob looks for Mystique, but she poses as a zombie so he can't find her. Mystique sneaks to the top of a building, then sets up her energy blaster to shoot out Blob's eyes. Blob, in a fit of rage, start beating the carp out of any physical being in range, which happen to be zombies. He keeps fighting them until he gets tired and falls over.

Mystique: So falls the immovable object.

I vote Mystique.

[Magnito]

I'm going to cast my vote for Mystique. Even if you know what she can do, it's still hard to predict what she will do. Blob will get paranoid and start beating everything around him that moves. Meanwhile, Mystique is nowhere near him. She has infultrated the survivors little group and convinced them that Blob is the king of Zombies. "If he dies, they all die". Mystique and her rag tag little group then go out and KO Blob. (yes I realize that it won't be that easy, but dang, Mystique is good at what she does). My vote...
MYSTIQUE

[michiganj24]

Mystique
Tow reasons either she will wait and get the zombies to take him out or she will bury him and win

[Rokk_Krinn]

I'm not entirely certain the zombies can actually do squat to Dukes. Zombies can be tough because they don't "limit themselves" and conceivably they could pass on the "zombie disease" - depending on the type of zombie - but that requires them being able to injure the Blob. The Blob has taken blows from Colossus and laughed it off - heck, he's even squared off and taken hits from the Hulk and done just fine - so a zombie's teeth is not penetrating the Blob's skin.

[The Red Baron]

well if thats the case then i will change my vote. Oh and i didnt say this but when i say zombies i ment the dawn of the dead zombies, you know the really fast ones.

[Rando]

Why are there friggin zombies in this terrain? I vote for Mystique. Sooner or later the bag headed zombie with the double barrel chainsaw will show up and that thing kills you instantly, Mystique can run from him Blob can't. Mystique can also use her powers to hide among the zombies (maybe).

[The Red Baron]

because it is a zombie city

[MSU]

This is Mystiques victory...she can use the terrain against Blob and lure him into traps and whatnot. Blob ain't the smartest mutant on the block, this is a time where brains will outlive brawn. Mystique for the win.

[Magnito]

For those voting: Your votes shouldn't be "X wins 'cause zombies eat Y". They still have to fight, the zombies are more of a distraction. The Zombies can hurt the fighters, but can not be responsible for the actual KO. (unless the fighter somehow took control of the zombies and forced them to fight for him)

[DOOMSTRIKER]

seems to me people are voting for mystique because they like her more (the reasons given for her victory are pretty lame) yeah shes way smarter, way craftier, and way faster than the Fatman, but realy, she could topple street lights on him, it wouldnt affect him, she could topple a wall onto him, it would have little to no affect, eventually the Blob would get ahold of her, and then its all over, she cant realy do anything to him in this situation, she doesnt have anykind of massive
(and they would have to be huge) explosives or anything so no matter what she realy cant even damage him, and zombies hurting him.... yeah right, they would havta be gamma charged zombies

[Magnito]

Originally posted by Rando
Why are there friggin zombies in this terrain? I
You'll have to ask The Red Baron :p

Anyways...
Mystique 6
Blob 4

[schicantek]

Seeing that Blob handles colussus and Hulk punches okay, I can't see how Mystique is supposed to harm even a less experienced version of him. Eventually Blob will catch up to her, then it will all be over.

Vote: Blob (who needs a remake by the way...)

[NotYou]

Originally posted by DOOMSTRIKER
seems to me people are voting for mystique because they like her more (the reasons given for her victory are pretty lame) yeah shes way smarter, way craftier, and way faster than the Fatman, but realy, she could topple street lights on him, it wouldnt affect him, she could topple a wall onto him, it would have little to no affect, eventually the Blob would get ahold of her, and then its all over, she cant realy do anything to him in this situation, she doesnt have anykind of massive
(and they would have to be huge) explosives or anything so no matter what she realy cant even damage him, and zombies hurting him.... yeah right, they would havta be gamma charged zombies
The Blob is unmovable, not irresistable.
Drop a building on Juggernaut and he'll walk out of it.
Drop a building on Blob and he's trapped under a building.

[NotYou]

Originally posted by schicantek
Eventually Blob will catch up to her, then it will all be over.

Because he's renowned for his zippy footwork and leaping ability.

[DOOMSTRIKER]

well "Not You" i see you agree with the majority here,:cheeky:

and how is mystique gonna drop a WHOLE BUILDING on Blob, what gadgets is she using?, where did her super strength originate exactly?

[NotYou]

She can trick Fred into smashing out supports easily.
She can assist him using her gun.
In a Zombie city it shouldn't be too hard to find derelict buildings.
Her super strength comes from being cunning.

[DOOMSTRIKER]

ok so Fred is completly mindless in this battle (as he would watch her dodge around and shoot the exact same pillers he was smashing, why would she do that?) Blob cant put 2 and 2 together? ok thats fine, im not saying your wrong, but i still vot for blob, as the reasons for him winning seem a little more solid

[NotYou]

Well, the way you say it, Mystique is completely mindless in
battle. Why would she make it so obvious?
But yes...compared to Mystique...he is mindless.

[DOOMSTRIKER]

your the one who set this whole "smashing support beams" image in my head what with mytique firing at the same beams the Blob is smashing, if he cant hear, or see her firing an energy based weapon, well then i guess he losses this fight, but realy, this kind of right in your face fighting is what characters like the Blob are invented for, where as characters like Mystique are more the manipulators behind the fighting.
so like i said, im not saying your wrong, but my vote stays the same

[Magnito]

I think that if Blob could find Mystique, he'd win, but even if he knows her powers, she can so easily blend in that he might as well attack everything that moves, and that won't be too affective. She has no reason to show him where she is, so I don't think she will.

[NotYou]

Originally posted by DOOMSTRIKER
your the one who set this whole "smashing support beams" image in my head what with mytique firing at the same beams the Blob is smashing, if he cant hear, or see her firing an energy based weapon, well then i guess he losses this fight, but realy, this kind of right in your face fighting is what characters like the Blob are invented for, where as characters like Mystique are more the manipulators behind the fighting.
so like i said, im not saying your wrong, but my vote stays the same
Good grief.
I'm saying she doesn't make it blindingly obvious what she
is doing, and shoots at a different support pillar, rather than
the one he is hitting.
His eyes, ears, nose, and mouth aren't as invulnerable as
the rest of him, so she can combine shooting those, with
weakening pillars that have already been hit, or that have not
been hit already.
Then when he's enraged, frustrated, and half blind, he isn't
going to be noticing anything.
Mystique has been his team leader, but she'd sell him out
without thinking twice. There's no way she wouldn't have
plenty of ideas for taking him out, and frankly, I don't think
Blob could lay a finger on Mystique unless she was asleep or
tied up.

[DOOMSTRIKER]

thats fine man i dont need to argue, but my vote stays

[theZehrung]

Mystique wins.

[Magnito]

Next time, please try to justify your answer, but I'll cout this one anyways.

[theZehrung]

okay Magnito - here it comes : I chose Mystique because of her resourcefulness...I am sure that Mystique, with her experience in Espionage, will find something that will render Blob useless such as a poison gas where Blob has to inhale through his nose thus knocking him out. So hence, Mystique wins.

[Magnito]

I would like to congradulate myself for finaly having a battle go on for 3 pages. Go Me!

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mags is gonna hate me.


Vote: The Blob

Zombies are really cool and all, but even if they teamed up and dropped a building on Blob, hes not koed.

[DTM]

Uh, isnt this match like 2 years old? :)

[Jackofhearts2005]

Maybe.... :noid:

[Rokk_Krinn]

Maybe.... :noid:

Or maybe this isn't the Jack we're used to but a Jack who just experienced a "13 Monkeys" moment... :noid:

[GAMURAI]

I vote the Blob!!!!