View Full Version : TV Cartoon Battles: Super-Heavyweight Division: Round 4, Match 2
And since I dont see Match 1 of Round 4 being too heavily debated, allow me to present Match 2, the second and FINAL match of the Round.
Now without further adieu, allow me to present your next battle in a BRAND NEW (Actually unless youre from Mars, these are pretty old hat by now) type of Tournament Of Champions:
MEWTWO (POKEMON)
VS.
PYRON (DARKSTALKERS)
As always, same rules apply, no time to prepare, POOFed from where ever they were, with only what they routinely carry on them AND/OR routinely used in their shows, to fight in a Large area til one stands and one falls. YOU decide Who.
Randomly Chosen Area:
Junk Planet - What a pile of junk. The surface of this planet is covered with debris and old junk. Mountains of it rise up from the hard baked dirt floor, weaving canyons through the never-ending sea of debris. Not even the equipment meant to process and compact all this litter works any more. (Inspired by: Mega XLR, Junkion, and Junk Yards everywhere)
Thanks all, and enjoy.
And REMEMBER, if youre not sure who someone is here, ASK. Theres PLENTY of people here who can tell you most anything youd like to know. Thanks again.
ALSO, please do your best to respect everyones votes, reasonings and opinions here. If you believe your character should win, but doesnt in the end, dont hold grudges against the character that beat yours, or call the votes that allowed this to happen "fanboy" arguments or plain and simply wrong. We all have our own way of thinking and voting here, with each one of our thoughts and ideas as valid as your own. Lets do what we can, even in the heat of an argument, to respect that. Thanks.
TV CARTOON TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS Part 4
ROUND 1
He-Man vs. Oberon: Oberon (12 - 7)
Tiamat vs. Superion: Tiamat (15 - 4)
Big O vs. The Gundam: Big O (7 - 0)
Omega Supreme vs. Hordak: Omega Supreme (7 - 0)
Godzilla vs. Imhotep: Godzilla (9 - 2)
Genie vs. Ryoko: Genie (11 - 10)
Shendu vs. Legato Bluesummers: Shendu (11 - 4)
King Hiss vs. Voltron (Vehicle Form): Voltron (Vehicle Form) (8 - 2)
Venger vs. Devastator: Venger (7 - 2)
Space Ghost vs. BlackWarGreymon: Space Ghost (10 - 5)
Metlar vs. Mewtwo: Mewtwo (10 - 1)
Sailor Saturn vs. Gundam Deathscyth v.2: Gundam Deathscyth v.2 (7 - 3)
Dracula vs. Wiseman: Wiseman (8 - 7)
Lord Hazanko vs. Mozenrath: Lord Hazanko (5 - 4)
Talpa vs. Experiment 627: Talpa (5 - 2)
Pyron vs. Voltron (Lion Form): Pyron (7 - 6)
ROUND 2
Tiamat vs. Godzilla: Tiamat (10 - 3)
Shendu vs. Lord Hazanko: Lord Hazanko (9 - 8)
Genie vs. Pyron: Pryon (10 - 8)
Wiseman vs. Voltron (Vehicle Form): Wiseman (8 - 0)
Big O vs. Oberon: Oberon (8 - 2)
Space Ghost vs. MewTwo: Mewtwo (9 - 4)
Venger vs. Gundam Deathscyth v.2: Venger (9 - 0)
Omega Surpeme vs. Talpa: Omega Supreme (8 - 5)
ROUND 3
Lord Hazanko vs. Venger: Venger (6 - 3)
Oberon vs. Mewtwo: Mewtwo (13 - 0)
Tiamat vs. Wiseman: Tiamat (8 - 4)
Omega Supreme vs. Pyron: Pyron (6 - 5)
ROUND 4
Venger vs. Tiamat: ??????
Mewtwo vs. Pyron: ??????
13 Down, 3 To Go
Mewtwo (Pokemon) - Geneticly enginered from DNA of the legendary Pokemon Mew, the Psychic type Pokemon, Mewtwo is arguably the most powerful Pokemon ever. He communicates with telepathy, and his Telekinetic powers can create energy attacks, incredibly powerful force fields, and give him the ability to fly. His TK abilities are strong enough to level an entire island research base. He has super human intelligence, shown by the fact he's mastered the science of cloning and Pokeball technology. His major flaw is his arrogance and his deep burning hatred for all humans.
Pyron (Darkstalkers) - Thousands of years old and conqueror of countless planets, the alien known as Pyron can best be summed up as a "living sun in humanoid form". He has all the powers you would expect from a solar being - magnetic, gravitational, solar, heat, light, etc. and has been shown to shift his basic form while in combat (e.g.: stretching out his arms or forming into a ball of fire). Pyron has been shown capable of annihilating groups of powerful (HW class) opponents using these powers. Incredibly difficult to hurt and a fair physical combatant even without his powers, Pyron's greatest weapon is his mind and experience. He does have a weakness though - he believes in "rules" and fights according to the nature of a contest (e.g.: when put into a hand-to-hand combat society he didn't use his powers as much and avoided going "nova" and destroying the planet...after all, why destroy that which you are meant to rule?).
Rokk_Krinn
04/01/2005, 16:08
I'm honestly mixed here but one thing I will say: while Mewtwo was able to shut off "lesser Pokemon's powers" (possibly because of his design) he was unable to do so to beings of "equal" power (e.g.: Mew). As such, I don't think he'll be able to shut off Pyron's powers.
Lots of junk for both sides to chuck around here - one via TK and the other via grav/magnetics - but not sure it's of much use to either party. Pyron burns hot enough - even at the SHW level - to slag most junk, and that's if he doesn't use his own powers to repel the garbage, while Mewtwo's shield will protect him.
Alien mind vs. alien mind...hmm...it may come down to Pyron by-passing the force-field via a trick like superheating the air around it (basically like boiling someone trapped in a swimming pool). Mewtwo could drop his shield but that would be instant incineration.
Guess I've convined myself...
Vote: Pyron
Didn't Mew Two stop fighting Mew because Mew convinced Mew Two to end the violence against the humans?
It wasn't that Mew was stronger, Mew touched Mew Two in a emotional manner. Right?
Even the people that don't like him have to admit that Mewtwo is one of (if not the) smartest fighters in this TOC. He can easily come up with a set of "rules" to make Pyron at a severe disadvantage. Plus the fact that he knows the terrain from his fight with Oberon, plus the fact that no other terrain gives him this much to TK, plus the manuverabiluty, shielding ect. My vote...
MEWTWO
Rokk_Krinn
04/01/2005, 16:16
Yep, but also because the two were basically at a "stand-off" as well. My point though was that against other SHW's - he's fought some other than Mew - he wouldn't be at a "stand-off" if he could just shut off their powers. During the whole fight with Mew he never once successfully "paralyzed" or "turned off" Mew...on the flipside, Mew had to get all cuddly feely and win that way. Razzin' frazzin' kid's movies. :)
Rokk_Krinn
04/01/2005, 16:19
Originally posted by Magnito
Even the people that don't like him have to admit that Mewtwo is one of (if not the) smartest fighters in this TOC. He can easily come up with a set of "rules" to make Pyron at a severe disadvantage. Plus the fact that he knows the terrain from his fight with Oberon, plus the fact that no other terrain gives him this much to TK, plus the manuverabiluty, shielding ect. My vote...
MEWTWO
Well, while I'll agree that Mewtwo is one of the smartest fighters out there I wouldn't put him over the likes of Wiseman, Tiamat, Vengar, Pyron, etc - all "super-geniuses" with thousands and thousands of years of experience (Tiamat's immortal, Vengar's a lesser deity, Pyron's been eating solar systems since before man crawled out of the ocean, etc.)
As for TK'ing, like I said, it's going to be useless for both parties. They can both use their powers to repel the other side's "junk attacks" and they're both too heavily shielded. The terrain isn't of much use here for either combatant.
Hmmm...I am voting Mew-Two here, not because of my anti-Pyron stance (after the MSU Lantern Corps. gets rid of the Rando Construct, we are going after Pyron) but because Mew Two has many things that the other competitors did not - Mental Powers and a very powerful shielding. I don't care if Pyron is an alien, Mew Two is going to reach out and touch someone - that someone being Pyron and then shut him down permanently, even if that means that Mew Two will be in a weakened state afterwards. The shielding will protect Mew Two from the fire/gravity/other cosmic powers that Pyron has and while protected, Mew Two will use his powers to shut down Pyron, or attack him until he is weakened enough to use his powers to shut him down. There is plenty of stuff that Mew Two can doto keep Pyron occupied.
Mew Two is ruthless, vindictive, and most of all, has that ever powerful shielding and can attack while keeping the shielding up. Plus, his character on Super Smash Brothers kicks butt. Just kidding on that reasoning, but Mew Two to the final match!!!
Avatar Jack
04/01/2005, 16:40
I'm voting for Mewtwo. I don't know if Pyron has a mind per se, but if he does, Mewtwo can most likely affect it. Reason being is that he used his power to shut off the powers of dozens of Pokemon (at once) and was still able to face Mew as an equal (had he not been using his power on the other Pokemon, I think he would have murdered Mew).
Mewtow is massively powerful. So powerful in fact that he threaten to kill off all the humans on his world with a massive storm HE would create. Since Pyron is bond to fight within SHW limits, I'm not sure if he can handle Mewtwo's power and god-like intelligence.
Haha, battle of the videogame cartoon characters! This is my geekiest fantasy battle! Will Nintendo's horrific mutant beat Capcom's alien menace?
This is Mewtwo's best environment, but I doubt all the tk chucking is gonna matter against someone comprised entirely of heat(i.e melting/burning everything in the arena). I also doubt Mewtwo can mentally affect Pyron, because while it'd be easy for Mewtwo to mind-screw a biological being from his home world, an alien comprised of solar energy is not going to something that's easy. Overall, I think Pyron would win, for Mewtwo has nothing on him in extra factors, so it's gonna end up being psychic blasts versus cosmic energy, and cosmic energy is hard to beat.
Originally posted by Rokk_Krinn
Yep, but also because the two were basically at a "stand-off" as well. My point though was that against other SHW's - he's fought some other than Mew - he wouldn't be at a "stand-off" if he could just shut off their powers. During the whole fight with Mew he never once successfully "paralyzed" or "turned off" Mew...on the flipside, Mew had to get all cuddly feely and win that way. Razzin' frazzin' kid's movies. :)
Note that Mew has identical powers to Mewtwo it isn't just Mewtwo can't turn off other really powerful characters, it's he couldn't against a character with mental powers that were identical to his.
Originally posted by icymatt
Haha, battle of the videogame cartoon characters! This is my geekiest fantasy battle! Will Nintendo's horrific mutant beat Capcom's alien menace?
This is Mewtwo's best environment, but I doubt all the tk chucking is gonna matter against someone comprised entirely of heat(i.e melting/burning everything in the arena). I also doubt Mewtwo can mentally affect Pyron, because while it'd be easy for Mewtwo to mind-screw a biological being from his home world, an alien comprised of solar energy is not going to something that's easy. Overall, I think Pyron would win, for Mewtwo has nothing on him in extra factors, so it's gonna end up being psychic blasts versus cosmic energy, and cosmic energy is hard to beat.
Just to remind everyone...this is not living sun Pyron, but the SHW version. He is not the sun incarnate, he has a mind to control.
And while Pyron is burning the environment, Mew Two is chuckling to himself, preparing for the mind-screw of a life time. Mew Two is to Pokemon what Xavier is to Marvel - the greatest telepath in the world. Other than that, they are completely different, but Mew Two is on par with Xavier. Prolly could take Xavier since Mew Two cares for nothing about killing and maiming humans.
Just for the record, every time a Mew Two battle comes, all I can think about is Bender from Futurama saying "Kill all Humans....kill all humans"
Actually, I think Mewtwo would be more like Agent Smith "Humans are a cancer. We need to destroy the cancer to cure the body."
I think the biological difference between Mewtwo's normal opponent's and Pyron does make a difference in how the battle would play out, but that's just me.
Rokk_Krinn
04/01/2005, 17:17
Originally posted by MSU
Just to remind everyone...this is not living sun Pyron, but the SHW version. He is not the sun incarnate, he has a mind to control.
But he's still an energy being even if he's not "Sun Levels" - i.e. You can be a "living sun" without being the equivalent of a sun. Pyron is still composed solely of solar energies.
As for not shutting off Mew, Mewtwo has had trouble shutting off other SHW beings besides Mew and those opponents weren't "possessing the same powers as Mewtwo" (i.e.: non psionic opponents).
Rokk_Krinn
04/01/2005, 17:23
As an added note, I doubt Mewtwo is immune to having his skull gravitationally crushed. Pyron's power of gravity would allow him to bypass the force-field (as Mewtwo makes a bubble for his fields - it's not "skin tight")...Pyron can manipulate the gravitons within the "bubble" meaning eggshell cracking can and will occure.
Avatar Jack
04/01/2005, 17:27
Hmmm.... since Pyron is not solid, but made of energy, should it not be child's play for Mewtwo to rip him apart, atom by atom, vy TK?
No. Becuase Pyron can do that by himself, and put himself back together. Technically, Pyron could smother Mewtwo in himself if he wanted to. That's the joy of being made of gas.
Avatar Jack
04/01/2005, 17:33
I see; however, if Pyron does that, Mewtwo can use his TK and force fields to keep him from coming together again. Pyron is smart enough not to try that.
Rokk_Krinn
04/01/2005, 17:34
Considering Pyron essentially "form-shifts" his energy (e.g.: he's taken spherical forms, long columns of energy, split himself, etc.) I'd say he's got pretty good "atomic" control of his energy form.
Rokk_Krinn
04/01/2005, 17:36
Originally posted by Avatar Jack
I see; however, if Pyron does that, Mewtwo can use his TK and force fields to keep him from coming together again. Pyron is smart enough not to try that.
If Mewtwo's going to be busy trying to 'de-form' someone with no form, that's going to leave him even more vulnerable to further attack. Pyron could essentially just create a "magnetic field" to seal his energy form (i.e. - Mewtwo can pull at the "body" but it won't go far) and that would just shut down that.
You also have to ask yourself if Mewtwo's control of energy is greater than Pyron's as apparently Mewtwo can be "stood-off" from such attacks (or, once again, he could have just TK'd Mew's legs off...but one has to assume Mew's powers were enough to counter that. By the same token, I think we can figure Pyron's control over magnetic energies and the like would be enough to keep himself from being split if he didn't wish to be...even then, would splitting apart the guy do that much good?)
Jawapimp
04/01/2005, 18:05
Forcefields are tough to beat, especially Mewtwo's. By the way, gravitational force couldn't penetrate force fields as far as I know. Force fields are essentially fields of + and - electrical waves that would cancel out the effects other waves, i.e gracitational waves. Its how the electron gun within a TV works.
I can't see Pyron winning this in any way. His energy blasts are countered by forcefield. Mewtwo can sneek psycic blasts in here and there to weaken Pyron, that is if Mewtwo just doesn't give him a huge blast all at once.
Mewtwo to the finals
Rokk_Krinn
04/01/2005, 18:13
Originally posted by Jawapimp
Forcefields are tough to beat, especially Mewtwo's. By the way, gravitational force couldn't penetrate force fields as far as I know. Force fields are essentially fields of + and - electrical waves that would cancel out the effects other waves, i.e gracitational waves. Its how the electron gun within a TV works.
By that reasoning shouldn't Pyron's EM powers just rip apart the force-fields then? :)
Btw, you'll note I didn't have the grav-powers affecting the force-field but rather by-passing it. Being Pyron doesn't need to be physically "touching" the gravitons or even "beaming" to do so - basically he just "commands" them - and Mewtwo is in a bubble, that means Pyron can affect the gravity _within_ the space enclosed by the force-field.
I'm gonna throw in for Mewtwo as well.
Basically both competitors have high end force attacks whether they be telekinetic, or gravitational or whatever. Both have some kind of forcefield, both have some kind of energy attack, both are real smart. The kicker is that on top of that Mewtwo has psychic powers, giveing him an avenue of attack that Pyron has no special defenses against aside from that of his personal will, and that Pyron can't match. This also grants Mewtwo first strike capacity and longer ranged attacking methods, Pyron has no option other than engageing Mewtwo in a shooting war, Mewtwo doesn't have to fight Pyron that way though.
Originally posted by Rokk_Krinn
By that reasoning shouldn't Pyron's EM powers just rip apart the force-fields then? :)
Btw, you'll note I didn't have the grav-powers affecting the force-field but rather by-passing it. Being Pyron doesn't need to be physically "touching" the gravitons or even "beaming" to do so - basically he just "commands" them - and Mewtwo is in a bubble, that means Pyron can affect the gravity _within_ the space enclosed by the force-field.
Gravity is just a form of force, it's manipulations can be counteracted by telekinetics (and vice versa) provided the manipulators are smart enough to know how.
protectorate
04/01/2005, 18:26
I'm going to go with Mewtwo.
With their physical powers being roughly equal, Mewtwo being able to create a second front in the form of mental strikes should give him the edge. Mewtwo has an attack that Pyron has no shown defense against, so he should be able to knock Pyron off balance with a few strategic mental attacks, then finish him with alternating mental and physical blows.
Originally posted by Rokk_Krinn
Yep, but also because the two were basically at a "stand-off" as well. My point though was that against other SHW's - he's fought some other than Mew - he wouldn't be at a "stand-off" if he could just shut off their powers. During the whole fight with Mew he never once successfully "paralyzed" or "turned off" Mew...on the flipside, Mew had to get all cuddly feely and win that way. Razzin' frazzin' kid's movies. :)
Actually I remember what happened there completely, Mewtwo was about to destroy Mew with an attack but just before the blow landed, Ash stood right in front of it, completely blocking the attack, but the impact (Dont ask me how, it just happened) TURNED ASH TO STONE. When this happened Mewtwo stated what is perhaps my favorite line from Mewtwo in the entire movie:
"That fool... he tried to stop our battle"
Then all the people in the arena mourned for Ash's death (Really sad moment by the way) but the tears brought Ash back to life. Mewtwo was then convinced by Mew to no longer fight, as they are brothers and are not meant to fight each other.
I have a brother of my own and this movie really appealed to me because we also fought all the time.
Anyway I came up with a good reason to vote for Mewtwo. Mewtwo turned Ash, the main hero in the entire Poke'mon series, into stone. If he can do that to Ash, then he can probably do that to Pyron.
Vote: Mewtwo
You think Mewtwo can do what he did to a normal human kid to an alien conquerer made entirely of solar energy?
Your logic is flawed.
Originally posted by icymatt
You think Mewtwo can do what he did to a normal human kid to an alien conquerer made entirely of solar energy?
Your logic is flawed.
Whoever said I was using logic? :)
Anyway I believe he could turn Pyron to stone. Ash is no normal kid by the way, he died (and was supposed to die) numerous times in the series, has incredible willpower and stamina, and became the certified Poke'mon master of the world. Not to mention he actually saved the world at least 3 times.
He is also incredibly dense, stubborn and actually a bit of a moron sometimes, but he does have pure heart.
Now I know Pyron is A LOT more powerful than Ash in every way, but Mewtwo turned Ash to stone by accident, here he could do it to Pyron on puprose, because by now he knows how to do it properly.
One last thing I forgot to add:
The stone attack was not meant for Ash, it was meant for Mew. It just happened that Ash had to be the hero and block the attack with his body. If the attack was not stopped by Ash, then it would have turned Mew to stone. (Because I am sure Mewtwo would not have launced that attack unless he was absolutely sure it would work on Mew)
Second, Ash was made of solid, stable matter, being a normal human and all. Pyron is made of gaseous, unstable molecules. I doubt Mewtwo could have the same effect on Pyron.
Well, Mewtwo is a scientific genius after all. He could find a way to do something to that effect to Pyron, considering his property. And by the way, lots of Poke'mon are made of unstable and gaseous molecules. Mewtwo was raised to fight against them all.
Mewtwo fought (and defeated) a Magneton very easily when you watch the training he had to take. This shows he is capable of defeating Magnetic-based foes.
Mewtwo has defeated many fire enemies (although Pyron should be significantly more powerful than what Mewtwo was made to face) and gaseous enemies as well.
Pyron is incredibly powerful, but Mewtwo could, in my mind at least, find a way to produce the same effect as what he did to Ash, since Mewtwo has been fighting foes similar to Pyron and is intelligent enough to find a way to contain those unstable molecules and probably transmute them into stone, just as he did to Ash.
Thats all a very big if. First, he'd actually have to hit Pyron with his amazo-petrification beam, which of course would be hard to do. Second, he's have to have time to pull it off, which Pyron probably wouldn't give him. Third, if he let down his guard, Pyron would crush him.
DTM, can we get to second-to-last round by tonight, because the other one was over before it began, and this one seems destined to go one way.
schicantek
04/01/2005, 22:23
I don't know, Mewtwo does't seem to have a way to reliably hit or hurt Pyron. Pyron doesn't seem to have a way to get past Mewtwo's sheilds. I guess I'll throw down for Pyron eventually wearing down the shields and blasting Mewtwo away.
Vote: Pyron
Rokk_Krinn
04/01/2005, 22:31
It could also be that the attack had that affect on Ash because it was a mere mortal who got nailed. Perhaps if it had hit Mew it would've just been a "force-blast" or such. There's really no way to know the intended effect on a SHW class being.
Oh, and comparing a Magnetron - which is a fairly rinky-dink Pokemon - to someone of SHW level is a bit off, don't you think? :)
Im just saying that Mewtwo has had experience fighting magnetic foes. I know that Pyron is worth 10-20 Magnetons. :)
I don't know, Mewtwo does't seem to have a way to reliably hit or hurt Pyron.
Hitting shouldn't be a problem, Mewtwo was quite fast.
Hurting, I'm sure a wide variety of psychic attacks will turn up something fairly soon. Knowing Pyron is a sun actually says a lot about his physical construction, which is a good edge for Mewtwo.
On the flip side, Mewtwo's not totally protected by his field, it's just incredibly tough, so he needs to keep on his toes too. Although fortunately for him, he can attack and defense at the same time pretty well.
"Kill all Humans....kill all humans"
I forgot about the stone attack...but really, the forcefield is the kicker here. Without it, we all agree that Mew Two would be toast. Mew Two can multi task like no ones business, showing that in his multiple battles against other pokemon. He can mind control other beings, pyron is a being, ergo, I think he mind control/mess with Pyron's head. Since Pyron is essentially a living energy, will it hurt Mew Two...yes, yes it will. But that will happen after Pyron is shut down. Mew Two gets first strike and gets the shielding to protect him from Pyron's attack.
By the way...my jaw hit the ground that Rando and I agreed on a battle that wasn't a wash out (ala Tiamat vs. Venger...come on! That was over before it began!). The Rando Construct has perplex on his dial! :laugh: :laugh:
I have to vote for Mewtwo here. His shielding, agility, ability to multitask, and his power psychic attacks give him the edge in what I call a very close battle.
Originally posted by MSU
"Kill all Humans....kill all humans"
I forgot about the stone attack...but really, the forcefield is the kicker here. Without it, we all agree that Mew Two would be toast. Mew Two can multi task like no ones business, showing that in his multiple battles against other pokemon. He can mind control other beings, pyron is a being, ergo, I think he mind control/mess with Pyron's head. Since Pyron is essentially a living energy, will it hurt Mew Two...yes, yes it will. But that will happen after Pyron is shut down. Mew Two gets first strike and gets the shielding to protect him from Pyron's attack.
By the way...my jaw hit the ground that Rando and I agreed on a battle that wasn't a wash out (ala Tiamat vs. Venger...come on! That was over before it began!). The Rando Construct has perplex on his dial! :laugh: :laugh:
I wonder if my perplex allows me to modify the vote totals by one.
Pryron wins, he will not succumb to Mewtwo's mind powers as easily as some. (personally, i dont know how he beat oberon, but i guess thats what i get for leaving) Pyron wins this one.
Pyron - 4 votes
Mewtwo - 8 votes
Well, since this is the second to last match in the entire TOC, and its still pretty close, Im going to let it go another day, give both sides more chances to sway some votes there way.
Darnit, Omega Supreme wouldve eaten Mewtwo for breakfast (no organic mind to control of affect, vast physical size and power to help counter its TK and force fields), but hey thats the way the ball bounces. :)
Tomorrow, The FINAL MATCH of the TV Cartoon SHW Division.
Grinner, any chance you could randomly mix up the numbers 1 to 32, in 4 columns (for a mixed team TOC) for me as soon as........though, since I havent seen you online in a while (which I hope all is OK) maybe Ill ask someone else. Today being Sunday I today have the time to organize those 4 TOCs into 1 final Cartoon TOC today.
Originally posted by Rando
I wonder if my perplex allows me to modify the vote totals by one.
Yes, but the rule of three is in effect. :laugh:
Pryron wins, he will not succumb to Mewtwo's mind powers as easily as some. (personally, i dont know how he beat oberon, but i guess thats what i get for leaving) Pyron wins this one.
He beat Oberon because of Iron, plain and simple. An arena full of the stuff. He could make himself a sphere of iron for total defense against direct magic and then throw Iron at Oberon at high speed.
Actually, I think I'm going to vote Pyron as well. There's no doubt in my mind Mewtwo can win, but Pyron is an incredibly skilled fighter plus, IMO, more powerful, able to counteract quite a lot of Mewtwo's effort before the genetically engineered psychic can break through, and I think Pyron will inflict enough damage before that happens to win. Not 100% by a long shot, but that's my vote.
What can he counter from Mewtwo? Pyron cannot stop psychic attacks, and Mew Two's shielding will protect him from what Pyron throws at him. At the same time, Mew Two can attack with the shielding up. Pyron has little to no psychic defenses. All Mew Two is to keep the guy entertained with the myriad of objects he can toss around to keep Pyron on his toes, then go in for the kill when Pyron is distracted by the objects. Pyron cannot hide from Mew Two because Mew Two will be able to seek him out as soon as the battle begins.
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