TV Cartoon Battles: Mixed Teams TOC: Round 1, Match 11

[DTM]

While still plenty of time for more votes, and plenty of room as well, it seems thus far Team BWG has the lead and the temporary win over Team Space Ghost. But can this lead be held, or will the current loser be the eventual winner? That, as always, if up to YOU.

With pretty much the same rules as with all of my TOCs, except this time:

The terrain has been enlarged to 40 miles wide, as always, protected by a force field of the strongest power to prevent characters from escaping or flying their foes to the sun.

Team will now have a 10 minute "Planning Stage" where each team can talk and prep amongst themsevles against the opposing team. Characters may NOT leave their immediate area during this time and no powers, spells,etc. can be used. This is a planning, sharing information stage only.

Now without further adieu, allow me to present your next battle in a BRAND NEW (aka: OLD, OLD, OLD) type of Tournament Of Champions:


TEAM VOLTRON (VEHICLE FORM) - Hank “The Ranger” (Dungeons & Dragons), Mark (Battle Of The Planets), Frankenstein Monster (Monster Force), Voltron (Vehicle Form) (Voltron)


VS.


TEAM HORDAK - Tarzan (Disney) (Tarzan), Agent Paper (Read Or Die), King Kong (Kong), Hordak (She-Ra: Princess Of Power)


As always, same rules apply, no time to prepare, POOFed from where ever they were, with only what they routinely carry on them AND/OR routinely used in their shows, to fight in a Large area til one stands and one falls. YOU decide Who.

Randomly Chosen Area:


Army Training Base - Situated in the deserts of the South-West, this facility contains all manner of terrain to shape the fighting forces of tomorrow, or would be dictators. Rough barracks and communication facilities sit inside the main compound, which is surrounded by all sorts of climbing obstacles, barbed wire, and mud pits. Several clumps of rude concrete buildings serve to train for more urban environments.
(Inspired by: GI Joe and others)


Thanks all, and enjoy.

And REMEMBER, if youre not sure who someone is here, ASK. Theres PLENTY of people here who can tell you most anything youd like to know. Thanks again.

ALSO, please do your best to respect everyones votes, reasonings and opinions here. If you believe your character should win, but doesnt in the end, dont hold grudges against the character that beat yours, or call the votes that allowed this to happen "fanboy" arguments or plain and simply wrong. We all have our own way of thinking and voting here, with each one of our thoughts and ideas as valid as your own. Lets do what we can, even in the heat of an argument, to respect that. Thanks.


TV CARTOON TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS Part 5


ROUND 1

Team He-Man vs. Team Imhotep: Team He-Man (12 - 10)
Team Superion vs. Team Gundam Deathscythe: Team Superion (13 - 1)
Team Venger vs. Team Sailor Saturn: Team Venger (10 - 0)
Team Dracula vs. Team Wiseman: Team Wiseman (8 - 6)
Team Tiamat vs. Team Voltron (Lion Form): Team Voltron (Lion Form): (11 - 10)
Team Genie vs. Team Experiment 627: Team Genie (14 - 0)
Team Legato Bluesummers vs. Team Talpa: Team Legato Bluesummers (8 - 7)
Team Devastator vs. Team Lord Hazanko: Team Lord Hazanko (4 - 1)
Team Shendu vs. Team Ryoko: Team Shendu
Team Space Ghost vs. Team BlackWarGreymon: Team BlackWarGreymon
Team Voltron (Vehicle Form) vs. Team Hordak: ??????


14 Down, 2 To Go

[Magnito]

Well, lets see. First off, the LWs. Although this is a good fight, that magical bow puts Hank slightly ahead of Tarzan.
MWs: Agent Paper is one of the best MW around. Mark barly has a chance against her.
HWs: A classic Monster clash. King Kong vs. Frankenstein. I'd give it to Kong. These guys are similar, brute strength, but not much of a mind. Let's just say that size does matter.
SHW: Voltron vs Hordak. This is close and could go either way.
So Voltron and Hordak are fighting, Hank is left against Paper and Kong...
Also, Hordak can teleport his whole team in. This gives them an added advantage. My vote...
TEAM HORDAK

[Maniac_nmt]

Team Voltron

Tarzan is no question Hank's superior, having ranger skills Hank can't even dream of attaining, plus his arch enemy is a major spell casting nasty. Hank's bow is chicken feed in comparison.

Kong would certainly squash Frank.

However, Jason, and Voltron I see beating both their equivalent numbers

From there team Hordak is screwed.

[Rando]

Hordak can teleport, ergo he kills Voltron instantly. Then he just moves down the ladder and tips the balance in his teams favor.
I vote for Hordak.

[Magnito]

Originally posted by Maniac_nmt
However, Jason, and Voltron I see beating both their equivalent numbers
Check again. It's Mark, not Jason.

[DTM]

Personally, I feel Mark would definately defeat Agent Paper. The guy is AWESOME, truly. A huge degree of superhuman speed and agility, hyper leaping, a master of HTH combat and of using his eagle bladed boomerang. Agent Paper sounds tough, but Id definately take Mark over her way more than not.

[DTM]

In case Hordaks teleporting abilities make this match a bit of a slaughter (not saying it will, just in case) Im also posting Match 12 now for your enjoyment. :)

[Prof. Aragorn]

Team Voltron.

Mark and Hank can take down Paper and Tarzan. Tarzan's range is limited while Paper falls quickly when double teamed by two capable combatants. Frank would smack Kong around like none tomorrow. The Frankenstein Monster has been able to match Dracula in close combat-combined with his will for his friends safety, his ability to stay consistent and not become sloppy or tired in a fight (until he starts running low on juice, not likely to happen) he'll take Kong, and if Voltron fails against Hordak, he'll be able to take him.

Teleporting to the team isn't a good idea. Frank's a monster when it comes to close combat. If they teleport it saves Frank the trouble of charging in for a haymaker.

Vote: Team Frank

[Rokk_Krinn]

If Hordak realizes he can port in and start assassinating the Voltron pilots, things definitely become a literal slaughter for Team Hordak. Kong does indeed squash Frankie (though might very well die in the process if Frankie's packing his "electrical equipment" - Kong wasn't the most resilient guy out there) and Tarzan puts Hank down fast. Hank's good but he's an absolute amateur compared to the Lord of the Jungle. While I do think Mark bests Agent Paper, it's moot - he's not going to survive the rest of the team.

Vote: Team Hordak

[MSU]

If Hordak can teleport with ease, then how is Voltron going to stop it? this is the weak Voltron too, having limited power and energy meaning that Voltron is going to have get Hordak quickly before Hordak gets Voltron. I just don't see that happening. I see Hordak getting all of the vehicle drivers before they know what hit them. The rest just falls into place...Team Hordak for the win.

[hail_eris]

Oh, yeah. Hordak massacres Voltron's pilots. His power set basically merges Skeletor with Plastic Man, with some additional magic thrown in for good measure. It won't be as ugly as Pyron, but it'll be close.

And Agent Paper has fought on this terrain before. I believe it was pointed out then that this would be like putting Magneto in the junkyard (few things are can generate paperwork like a military base can). If Frank's electrical, he's going to find himself buried under a couple tons of insulator. And then Kong will step on him. Repeatedly.

Team Hordak for the win.

[icymatt]

Yep...you other guys have convinced me to go with Hordak. If he can take out Voltron, he'll be able to destroy the opponent's his team did not.
Vote: Team Hordak

[The Red Baron]

uh didnt hordak lose to voltron?? I give this to voltron and co. the only one on team hordak that is one up is agent paper but not enough that is going to turn the tide. mean while hordak is cocky and dumb enough to attack voltron and not pay attention to frank or mark or hank and get blind sided.

[jedah_s]

i'm tossing in a vote for team hordak.
magic users have a good toc track record against mecha.... especialy against human piloted mecha.

tarzan is out of his element on a army base, but his skills are still superior to hank's.
frankenstein versus kong isn't really a fight imo.
and as someone pointed out, this is the arena where agent paper (imo wrongly) lost to static shock.
and as pointed out, very few places generate paper like military bases.
mark is great and all, but paper can block bullets with index cards, he's fast.... but thats really fast.
if she's near any of the offices on the base... mark is boned.

[Rokk_Krinn]

One clarification: Mark doesn't use a pistol - he uses devices similar to boomerangs. Normally "sonic boomerangs" (either like ol' Cpt. Boomerang's scream-a-rangs or impact sonic blasts) but the rangs are also edged, while some are explosive.

[Q99]

Personally, I feel Mark would definately defeat Agent Paper. The guy is AWESOME, truly. A huge degree of superhuman speed and agility, hyper leaping, a master of HTH combat and of using his eagle bladed boomerang. Agent Paper sounds tough, but Id definately take Mark over her way more than not.

Well, in the series, we saw the Paper fight a guy with superhuman speed and agility, hyper leaping, a master of melee combat, and had a staff with which he could rock a submarine. Oh, and his weapon also burned her paper on contact.


The Paper is possibly the most powerful MW, rivaled only by Static Shock in raw power IMO, and in a military base she gets a boost. She's pretty much a HW due to the terrain.

[Maniac_nmt]

Originally posted by Q99
Personally, I feel Mark would definately defeat Agent Paper. The guy is AWESOME, truly. A huge degree of superhuman speed and agility, hyper leaping, a master of HTH combat and of using his eagle bladed boomerang. Agent Paper sounds tough, but Id definately take Mark over her way more than not.

Well, in the series, we saw the Paper fight a guy with superhuman speed and agility, hyper leaping, a master of melee combat, and had a staff with which he could rock a submarine. Oh, and his weapon also burned her paper on contact.


The Paper is possibly the most powerful MW, rivaled only by Static Shock in raw power IMO, and in a military base she gets a boost. She's pretty much a HW due to the terrain.

I don't know about that, a sonic based attack (ie his boomerangs) are possibly one of the single most effective attacks against a manipulator type.

No concentrating on making paper anything when sonic screamers or blasts are constantly keeping your equilibrium off balance so much that you can't even stand up straight with out hurling all over the place.

[The Red Baron]

not to mention the fact that mark can hide from everyone on hordaks team and take them out with a series of stleath kills

[Rokk_Krinn]

Originally posted by The Red Baron
not to mention the fact that mark can hide from everyone on hordaks team and take them out with a series of stleath kills

Y'know, I love Mark - I've got pretty much every G-Force/Battle of the Planets/Gatchaman episode out there - but how pray tell is he going to assassinate Hordak? Heck, he's barely going to be standing after a fight with Tarzan which means going after even King Kong would be tough. Sure, he doesn't have to do it all - that's what a team is for - but I am saying that Mark can't just go take out all of Hordak's team solo.

[The Red Baron]

take the posts in these battles with a grain of salt, i dont think mark will take out hordak myhimself, but he should take out tarzan though without breaking a sweat

[Q99]

I don't know about that, a sonic based attack (ie his boomerangs) are possibly one of the single most effective attacks against a manipulator type.

No concentrating on making paper anything when sonic screamers or blasts are constantly keeping your equilibrium off balance so much that you can't even stand up straight with out hurling all over the place.

We actually saw Paper Masters go against a sound controller in the series (which is a lot more than simple sonic boomerangs), lesser paper masters than The Paper.

Plenty of paper set up right are excellent sonic baffles. Suffice to say, the sound guy didn't win.

In this case, he still needs to hit the Paper without her slicing a sonic boomerang before it gets close to have that effect.

[The Red Baron]

how will paper hit some one who she cant see

[DTM]

Team Hordak - 7 votes
Team Voltron (Vehicle Form) - 3 votes

[Grinner]

Originally posted by Q99
Well, in the series, we saw the Paper fight a guy with superhuman speed and agility, hyper leaping, a master of melee combat, and had a staff with which he could rock a submarine. Oh, and his weapon also burned her paper on contact.


The Paper is possibly the most powerful MW, rivaled only by Static Shock in raw power IMO, and in a military base she gets a boost. She's pretty much a HW due to the terrain.

Of course, we also saw her regularly get dropped easily any time she was distracted. Heck, if someone fighting her had the series downloaded into their head (:cheeky: ) it's almost like she has a giant neon sign over her head saying "distract me!"

[Rando]

We did? as I recall Agent Paper got taken only 1 time, when she got poisoned by Deep. If someone thinks that Paper is easily distracted then they apparently didn't notice that she never lost any of her fights because of it, and that she apprently had such a tremendous track record that her commanding officer was confident in her ability to singlehandedly save the entire population of the planet from imminent death (faith that was rewarded with her successfully doing so, although not singlehandidly).

[Grinner]

Originally posted by Grinner
Yeah, I know it's long over, but I finally saw Read or Die over the holidays, and having seen it I'm even more convinced that the right person won here.

Paper was definitely getting the highlight treatment here as well. I saw her get dropped easily three times in the space of 45 minutes of the show. She darn near had a sign on her forehead that said, "Distract me and I'm useless."

Yes, she is powerful. Yes, she belongs in this category, and in the upper range of this category. But if Static got to see her entire show I cannot see him possibly loosing more than half of the time.

That's what I posted back in the MW division after watching Read or Die.

Now, I'm looking back nearly 4 months here, so I can't remember exact specifics, but apparently at the time with the show still fresh in my mind I noticed this.

[Rando]

Yeah, If you keep going in that thread you will see that people disputed your claim there too, along the same lines of reasoning. I do remember most of the specifics, and can refresh them whenever I please as my friend owns the show.