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And what an opening Match for Round 2 it is. Thus far Team Genie, thanks to alittle help from his friends, is leading Team Mewtwo and thus far advances to Round 3. Can this lead be held, or increased, or will Team MT come back for the win? As always, thats up to YOU to decide.
With pretty much the same rules as with all of my TOCs, except this time:
The terrain has been enlarged to 40 miles wide, as always, protected by a force field of the strongest power to prevent characters from escaping or flying their foes to the sun.
Team will now have a 10 minute "Planning Stage" where each team can talk and prep amongst themsevles against the opposing team. Characters may NOT leave their immediate area during this time and no powers, spells,etc. can be used. This is a planning, sharing information stage only.
Now without further adieu, allow me to present your next battle in a BRAND NEW (aka: OLD, OLD, OLD) type of Tournament Of Champions:
TEAM VENGER - Daisuke Jigen (Lupin The 3rd), Static Shock (Static Shock), Birdman (Birdman), Venger (Dungeons & Dragons)
VS.
TEAM HORDAK - Tarzan (Disney) (Tarzan), Agent Paper (Read Or Die), King Kong (Kong), Hordak (She-Ra: Princess Of Power)
As always, same rules apply, no time to prepare, POOFed from where ever they were, with only what they routinely carry on them AND/OR routinely used in their shows, to fight in a Large area til one stands and one falls. YOU decide Who.
Randomly Chosen Area:
Primevil Wastes - Large, flat, rocky ground bisected by imposing cliffs. A central volcano can be seen from even the farthest parts of the arena. Channels of lava crisscross the open ground, ensuring that an uncertain step could lead to a very fiery death. (Inspired by: He-Man, Thundarr, etc)
Thanks all, and enjoy.
And REMEMBER, if youre not sure who someone is here, ASK. Theres PLENTY of people here who can tell you most anything youd like to know. Thanks again.
ALSO, please do your best to respect everyones votes, reasonings and opinions here. If you believe your character should win, but doesnt in the end, dont hold grudges against the character that beat yours, or call the votes that allowed this to happen "fanboy" arguments or plain and simply wrong. We all have our own way of thinking and voting here, with each one of our thoughts and ideas as valid as your own. Lets do what we can, even in the heat of an argument, to respect that. Thanks.
TV CARTOON TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS Part 5
ROUND 1
Team He-Man vs. Team Imhotep: Team He-Man (12 - 10)
Team Superion vs. Team Gundam Deathscythe: Team Superion (13 - 1)
Team Venger vs. Team Sailor Saturn: Team Venger (10 - 0)
Team Dracula vs. Team Wiseman: Team Wiseman (8 - 6)
Team Tiamat vs. Team Voltron (Lion Form): Team Voltron (Lion Form): (11 - 10)
Team Genie vs. Team Experiment 627: Team Genie (14 - 0)
Team Legato Bluesummers vs. Team Talpa: Team Legato Bluesummers (8 - 7)
Team Devastator vs. Team Lord Hazanko: Team Lord Hazanko (4 - 1)
Team Shendu vs. Team Ryoko: Team Shendu (8 - 5)
Team Space Ghost vs. Team BlackWarGreymon: Team Space Ghost (6 - 5)
Team Voltron (Vehicle Form) vs. Team Hordak: Team Hordak (7 - 3)
Team Godzilla vs. Team Pyron: Team Godzilla (7 - 5)
Team Mozenrath vs. Team Gundam: Team Mozenrath (11 - 3)
Team King Hiss vs. Team Omega Supreme: Team Omega Supreme (6 - 1)
Team Mewtwo vs. Team Big O: Team Mewtwo (10 - 0)
Team Oberon vs. Team Metlar: Team Oberon (10 - 6)
ROUND 2
Team Genie vs. Team Mewtwo: Team Genie
Team Venger vs. Team Hordak: ??????
14 Down, 2 To Go
hail_eris
04/25/2005, 13:54
Wow. Venger's LW can take out Hordak's LW, MW, *and* HW from (literally) a mile away. A wide open arena, with little or no cover, means that Jigen will positively rule this battlefield. Oh, and he's also got the MW TOC winner, a pocket Superman, and a demigod-level spellcaster to back him up. Hordak will put up a spectacular fight, but, with four against one, I don't like his chances. Team Jigen - I mean, Team Venger to advance.
Two things, Cant Agent Paper block bullets with her metal objects, and Tarzan has minor superhuman level speed and agility, neither of them are going to be easy to hit at all. Not to mention Kongs very thick and durable hide. What kinds of weapons does Jigen carry?
Also, why couldnt Hordak shape change into a tank and bring his team over to Vengers, and then let everyone out at once for the assault?
Dont get me wrong, I think Venger is a more powerful sorcerrer than Hordak, and Static Shock will easily handle Agent Papers metal up close, Im just saying I dont think its going to be as simple as shoot from a mile away and theyre all dead.
hail_eris
04/25/2005, 14:24
Jigen's carrying a .50 calibre sniper rifle. The US Marines use it to blow holes in the engine blocks of light armored vehicles. Kong's tough, but a high velocity round the size of a flashlight battery will put him down. And this isn't Paper's best terrain. She'd have to keep that shield up at all times and covering all angles.
Good point about Hordak turning into a tank, though. I'm sticking with my vote (they've got to get out of the tank sooner or later - and either way, Jigen has effectively neutralized three-quarters of Hordak's team). It may not be a shooting gallery cake walk, but I still see Venger's team taking it.
Two things, Cant Agent Paper block bullets with her metal objects,
Metal? No, she uses paper, she can just make it as hard as metal. But it's still paper.
She's blocked bullets fired a few inches from her with sudden Paper shields, she's really fast. And there's no cover here so she'll see Jigen aiming just fine.
I think the only metal she has might be in her glasses and suitcase, and even then not much (small hinges in both cases).
I see her definitely taking Static. He's no slouch, but her paper's non-magnetic, she has more control than his static cling does, and she's fought an electricity user (one who demolishes buildings and military helicopters with ease) before. She can also probably take Jigen, she can use her paper to close the distance fast (in one ep of the TV series, she made a paper sphere with her and two other characters in it and fired it ballistically at high speed, turning it into a paper airplane for control once the ballistic course apexed).
Hodak is good, but Venger is a better spell caster. Hodak can win this match, just not more than 50% of the time. Static can provide good shielding from attacks from afar and Venger can clean up the rest. Tarzan won't be able to withstand the assault from both Jigen and SS. Kong doesn't have range so even SS can take care of him from a safe distance. I don't really know what Birdman is going to do in this match...maybe shoot from afar? Who knows...but more than 50% of the time, Team Venger is going to win.
Prof. Aragorn
04/25/2005, 14:35
Feh, it's a walk for Jigen's team. Of course, it's a bit more challenging since Venger has to get off his butt and do some spell stuff against Hordak to help Birdman take him out. The lightweight, middleweight, and heavyweight go down to Daisuke Jigen.
Vote: Jigen
Prof A....have you ever voted against your anime favorites? I mean...ever?;)
Originally posted by MSU
Hodak is good, but Venger is a better spell caster. Hodak can win this match, just not more than 50% of the time. Static can provide good shielding from attacks from afar and Venger can clean up the rest. Tarzan won't be able to withstand the assault from both Jigen and SS. Kong doesn't have range so even SS can take care of him from a safe distance. I don't really know what Birdman is going to do in this match...maybe shoot from afar? Who knows...but more than 50% of the time, Team Venger is going to win.
This mimicks my ideas pretty well. Hordak isnt the overall sorcerrer that Venger is and wont defeat this Uber Wizard more than not. SSs own shields should protect him from most of what the other opposing members can do. Birdman is NO slouch either, the sun gives him superhuman abilities, plus flight, a solar shield and solar beams able to blow away metal. Not to mention is he stays still for a bit in the sun hes pretty much fully recharged.
My Vote - Team Venger
Originally posted by MSU
Prof A....have you ever voted against your anime favorites? I mean...ever?;)
Heck, I wouldnt mind if he at least DIDNT vote on his character alone being the SOLE REASON that team won, and is most times responsible for taking down the entire opposing team themselves.
Oh yea, I'm voting Venger too. Paper's a very high-end MW, but Static's only slightly less so, and every other catagory is in the other team's favor.
Unless Hordak can summon, I dunno, a quarter square mile of paper, they lose (but if he can, then the Paper makes a Godzilla-sized construct and crushes the other team...).
protectorate
04/25/2005, 14:47
I too am going to say the sniper is going to rule this terrain... to a point. About a second after he takes his first shot (thus revealing his location) Hordak is going to let loose on that location and smoke the sniper.
Still, I see Jigan taking out Paper or Kong (maybe both) before he's blasted to little tiny pieces. Tarzan is a non-threat to the rest of Vengers Team. Any of them will take him after a minute or two of trying to hit him. With Static as a good backup shooter, and Birdman to annoy the #### out of Hordak, Venger should take out his opposite heavyweight.
Note, Paper can shield herself against a .50 cal rifle just fine. She's even travelled distances longer than this arena in a paper sphere.
hail_eris
04/25/2005, 14:53
Originally posted by Q99
And there's no cover here so she'll see Jigen aiming just fine.
How good's her vision? Jigen's shooting from a mile and a half away - and even after the bullet travels that distance, it's still moving faster than a .44 magnum fired at point blank range. At closer range, it would actually be in character (and definitely within his abilities) for Jigen to account for Paper's shields and trick shot past them.
I guess the most important thing is that Hordak's team has to spend a serious amount of time and effort trying to neutralize Venger's *lightweight*. What happens when you throw Static, Birdman, or Venger himself into the mix? There's a reason that these guys were one of my picks to take it all...
How good's her vision?
With the glasses? Apparently really good, she seems to notice stuff at far distances quite quickly.
it's still moving faster than a .44 magnum fired at point blank range
Yea, but it's still not going to be enough to penetrate a paper barrier (which have taken grenades in the series).
Of course, a big problem is she only has one briefcase of paper. If she's using most of it on herself and any teammate close to her, she doesn't really have much to do a lot else (she can still throw individual sheets to slice up foes who get within medium range, but she doesn't have enough spare to do complete stuff). Especially if Static starts opening up and lights some of it on fire.
i'll toss in a vote for team venger... jigen couldn't have asked for better terrain.
imo venger is superior to hordak spellcaster wise.
bad pull for agent paper, if she'd ended up in the military base again, i might have voted for her team.
Originally posted by hail_eris
Wow. Venger's LW can take out Hordak's LW, MW, *and* HW from (literally) a mile away. A wide open arena, with little or no cover, means that Jigen will positively rule this battlefield. Oh, and he's also got the MW TOC winner, a pocket Superman, and a demigod-level spellcaster to back him up. Hordak will put up a spectacular fight, but, with four against one, I don't like his chances. Team Jigen - I mean, Team Venger to advance.
Good thing Hordak can teleport.
Despite that however I'm voteing for Team Vengar.
Vengar and Hordak are close enough in might that I can't accurately predict who would beat who. I think Static would beat Paper in this awful terrain although not in any kind of reasonable time period. The hit comes in the fact that Jigen and Birdman would wreck their counterparts, Hordak's team can't win without their LW and HW pulling their weight, and ape-man and ape just can't.
A better question about Agent Paper: How's her defense against concentrated blasts of solar radiation? Cause, you know, Birdman is there, too.
I also vote for Team Venger. Simply because Venger is a really powerful sorcerer, who's teamed with a sniper, an magnetism and electricity master, and a flier with incredibly powerful blasts. Nothing on Hordak's side can properly defend any of them from all those things at once.
Prof. Aragorn
04/25/2005, 17:33
Originally posted by MSU
Prof A....have you ever voted against your anime favorites? I mean...ever?;)
Like I was going to vote for Jackie Chan against Spike because Jackie didn't have range . . .
Considering the open area terrain, Jigen could definately drop anyone in this match. If it was a fight in the Graveyard/Haunted House, well I'd still vote for Jigen's team, but he'd definately need the help of his teammates.
Jigen>Tarzan
Static Shock>Agent Paper
Birdman>King Kong
Venger>Hordak
Team Venger wins every match (in my opinion). My vote...
TEAM VENGER
Maniac_nmt
04/25/2005, 23:01
4 ranged combatants in a mostly open area? Ick!
Harvey Birdman puts a subpoena out on the enemy, and his team goes and collects.
Team Venger for the win
Team Venger - 11 votes
Team Hordak - 0 votes
A better question about Agent Paper: How's her defense against concentrated blasts of solar radiation? Cause, you know, Birdman is there, too.
Well, her paper can probably block it, but would be lit on fire. So she can defend for a bit, but she'd just be buying time, and not very much with both Static and Birdman.
Best chance is probably use all her paper at once as sort of a paper grenade to try and take out multiple enemy teammembers, but that's still a long shot.
Originally posted by Q99
And there's no cover here so she'll see Jigen aiming just fine.
So you're saying that she's going to see a prone opponent 1.5 miles away and know exactly where on her or her teammate's body he's aiming? :rolleyes:
That's more an argument I'd expect to hear from Prof. A about Dracula.
Originally posted by protectorate
I too am going to say the sniper is going to rule this terrain... to a point. About a second after he takes his first shot (thus revealing his location) Hordak is going to let loose on that location and smoke the sniper.
Still, I see Jigan taking out Paper or Kong (maybe both) before he's blasted to little tiny pieces.
Again, I'm wondering just how Jigen's giving himself away. From 1.5 miles away the first Hordak's team is going to know is that a couple of people's heads just disappeared. They aren't going to see the muzzle flash, they aren't going to hear a sound.
And that's assuming that the rest of Jigen's team isn't anywhere causing Hordak to be distracted.
As if from my last couple of posts it isn't obvious how I'm voting ;)
Actually, this is one time I am supporting Prof. A's claim that his boy could take most of the opposing team on his own. I picked Jigen to win the battle royal in this terrain for the same reason.
With Jigen dropping Paper & hurting (if not killing) Kong, Birdman & Venger can double team Hordak while Static cleans up, taking down Tarzan and finishing Kong if needed.
Team Venger to round 3.
hail_eris
04/26/2005, 14:30
Originally posted by Grinner
Actually, this is one time I am supporting Prof. A's claim that his boy could take most of the opposing team on his own.
I guess the most surprising thing is that Prof wasn't the first person to suggest that scenario (that would have been me). That gun of his lets him punch *way* above his weight class. Opposing teams actually have to take this LW seriously - and that could be the difference as we progress through the rounds...
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