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DTM
05/07/2005, 16:27
Yet again, sorry Ive been away for so long. PC was giving me Major Problems, though it should be OK for this next and FINAL MATCH of Round 2. Enjoy all. :)

So, with just 2 more matches til Round 3, lets see if we cant start this puppy back up and get some good battles going here.

With pretty much the same rules as with all of my TOCs, except this time:

The terrain has been enlarged to 40 miles wide, as always, protected by a force field of the strongest power to prevent characters from escaping or flying their foes to the sun.

Team will now have a 10 minute "Planning Stage" where each team can talk and prep amongst themsevles against the opposing team. Characters may NOT leave their immediate area during this time and no powers, spells,etc. can be used. This is a planning, sharing information stage only.

Now without further adieu, allow me to present your next battle in a BRAND NEW (aka: OLD, OLD, OLD) type of Tournament Of Champions:


TEAM GODZILLA - Leonardo (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles), Sailor Uranos (Sailor Moon), Stitch (Lilo & Stitch), Godzilla (Hanna Barbera) (Godzilla)


VS.


TEAM SPACE GHOST - Cammy (Street Fighter), Tula (The Pirates Of Dark Water), Kensin Ramouri (Fist Of The North Star), Space Ghost (Space Ghost – Old Series)


As always, same rules apply, no time to prepare, POOFed from where ever they were, with only what they routinely carry on them AND/OR routinely used in their shows, to fight in a Large area til one stands and one falls. YOU decide Who.

Randomly Chosen Area:


Nameless Moon - Despite all known laws of physics, you can breathe here without your head exploding. Still, it doesn’t do much for the flat grey tones of the surroundings. A thick layer of dust coats this heavily cratered surface. Definitely not the place to build a summer home. (Inspired by: Space Ghost, Superfriends, etc)


Thanks all, and enjoy.

And REMEMBER, if youre not sure who someone is here, ASK. Theres PLENTY of people here who can tell you most anything youd like to know. Thanks again.

ALSO, please do your best to respect everyones votes, reasonings and opinions here. If you believe your character should win, but doesnt in the end, dont hold grudges against the character that beat yours, or call the votes that allowed this to happen "fanboy" arguments or plain and simply wrong. We all have our own way of thinking and voting here, with each one of our thoughts and ideas as valid as your own. Lets do what we can, even in the heat of an argument, to respect that. Thanks.


TV CARTOON TOURNAMENT OF CHAMPIONS Part 5


ROUND 1

Team He-Man vs. Team Imhotep: Team He-Man (12 - 10)
Team Superion vs. Team Gundam Deathscythe: Team Superion (13 - 1)
Team Venger vs. Team Sailor Saturn: Team Venger (10 - 0)
Team Dracula vs. Team Wiseman: Team Wiseman (8 - 6)
Team Tiamat vs. Team Voltron (Lion Form): Team Voltron (Lion Form): (11 - 10)
Team Genie vs. Team Experiment 627: Team Genie (14 - 0)
Team Legato Bluesummers vs. Team Talpa: Team Legato Bluesummers (8 - 7)
Team Devastator vs. Team Lord Hazanko: Team Lord Hazanko (4 - 1)
Team Shendu vs. Team Ryoko: Team Shendu (8 - 5)
Team Space Ghost vs. Team BlackWarGreymon: Team Space Ghost (6 - 5)
Team Voltron (Vehicle Form) vs. Team Hordak: Team Hordak (7 - 3)
Team Godzilla vs. Team Pyron: Team Godzilla (7 - 5)
Team Mozenrath vs. Team Gundam: Team Mozenrath (11 - 3)
Team King Hiss vs. Team Omega Supreme: Team Omega Supreme (6 - 1)
Team Mewtwo vs. Team Big O: Team Mewtwo (10 - 0)
Team Oberon vs. Team Metlar: Team Oberon (10 - 6)


ROUND 2

Team Genie vs. Team Mewtwo: Team Genie (10 - 7)
Team Venger vs. Team Hordak: Team Venger (12 - 0)
Team Shendu vs. Team Omega Supreme: Team Omega Supreme (9 - 1)
Team Lord Hazanko vs. Team Voltron (Lion Form): Team Voltron (Lion Form) (8 - 4)
Team He-Man vs. Team Wiseman: Team Wiseman
Team Superion vs. Team Mozenrath: Team Mozenrath
Team Oberon vs. Team Legato Bluesummers: Team Oberon
Team Godzilla vs. Team Space Ghost: ??????


14 Down, 2 To Go

Grinner
05/07/2005, 17:32
So, with just 2 more matches til Round 3, lets see if we cant start this puppy back up and get some good battles going here.

Um...unless I've done something terribly wrong with the math here, isn't this the last match of round 2? So once this match closes we're on to round 3? :confused: :confused:

DTM
05/07/2005, 21:41
Um...unless I've done something terribly wrong with the math here, isn't this the last match of round 2? So once this match closes we're on to round 3? :confused: :confused:

Right you are Grinner. That sentence must have been there from my last battle days ago (match 7) and I didnt see that to delete it for this one.

As far as I can tell, this match here is Definately the last one of Round 2. If you could possibly send me some randomized numbers for Round 3, that would be great. :)

Magnito
05/07/2005, 22:04
Hey DTM, have you noticed that the more vs. thread that go up, the more voting goes down? To many threads, not enough posters. (Just kidding). Seriously though, if we don't support eachother, who will.
On that note, this is an interesting match. I think that Godzilla's support beats Ghost's support...badly. However, If Space Ghost can take Blackwargreymon, then Godzilla should be a piece of cake. So, can Stich, Sailor Uranus and Leo take out the ghost? I don't think it will be easy, but in the end I think they can, (especially if SG was hurt at all while fighting big G). My vote...
TEAM GODZILLA

icymatt
05/07/2005, 22:57
I agree, with the exception of Kensin, SG's teamies will get clobbered. However, SG has an amazing arsenal, thus Godzilla's ranged attacks will all be blocked. I think SG could easily fry Godzilla's team mates by himself with one well-placed heat ray. And then he could freeze Godzilla with the freeze ray, and then beat the beast. Godzilla has the better team, but Space Ghost is a force to be reckoned with. Right now, I'll vote Team Space Ghost, but it might change.

DTM
05/08/2005, 00:02
Eh, if Imhotep and his vast freezing magics couldnt freeze Godzilla (with his fire breath and heat vision), I dont think SGs freeze ray is going to do much better. Heat ray, I think Godzilla is immune to most such attacks. All in all, I see Godzilla as the stronger and overall more powerful SHW, and if his overall team if better (and I believe this to be so), just makes my voting decision easier.

My Vote - Team Godzilla

Prof. Aragorn
05/08/2005, 01:52
Kensin dominates most of Team Godzilla-with Cammy helping if necessary, while Space Ghost ties down Godzilla. Afterwards couple of things may happen:

-Tula may be able to temporarily calm, and TKO Godzilla.
-The rest of SG's team gives him that extra oomph to tackle Godzilla down.
-Kensin hits Godzilla-causing him to explode.
-Godzilla owns everyone and everything.

Eh, I think the Tula calms down Godzilla is more likely to happen, and if she isn't able to take him down, she'll at least distract him for Tad to annihilate Godzilla in a big shot.

Vote: Space Ghost

MSU
05/08/2005, 12:16
Tula gets hosed again with this terrain! Sigh...

I beleive Leo is gonna take down Cammy and Tula is again a wasted member since this terrain is prolly the worst for her. Stitch and Kensin...thats tough...but then Team SG has a flier who is pretty nimble, has some shielding, and ranged attacks. But there is no hiding in this terrain so its gonna be an all out brawl. Throwing my vote for team Godzilla. I don't think SG has enough firepower to take down Godzilla, and team Godzilla is going to waste the other team (especially the LW and MW). If Stitch loses to Kensin, its going to be a three on two, with Godzilla, Leo, and the Sailor Scout to take on Kensin and SG. In an all out brawl...Team Godzilla will prevail more often than not. Godzilla is just really, really big. And with some protection from Sailor Uranus (from SG's ranged attacks)...and no where for Kensin to hide....yeah, Team G is gonna win more than 50% of the time.

Q99
05/08/2005, 13:36
I agree, with the exception of Kensin, SG's teamies will get clobbered. However, SG has an amazing arsenal, thus Godzilla's ranged attacks will all be blocked. I think SG could easily fry Godzilla's team mates by himself with one well-placed heat ray. And then he could freeze Godzilla with the freeze ray, and then beat the beast. Godzilla has the better team, but Space Ghost is a force to be reckoned with. Right now, I'll vote Team Space Ghost, but it might change.


It'd be hard as heck to hit Uranus (dodging heat lasers and the like is what she does. And she has a sixth-sense against ambushes, so being invisible won't help), and she has a space laser of her own to fight back with. Plus, this isn't unknown terrain to her.


Plus, I'm with DTM on Godzilla taking Space Ghost's attack. It's hard to take down the big G. The better support team and Tula being pretty much a LW in this terrain (and Vs. someone who's lived on the moon!) helps too.

My vote: Team Godzilla.

DTM
05/08/2005, 13:38
Dont be shy all, only 5 votes in nearly a fulls days time, Im sure we can do better than that. :)

Team Godzilla - 3 votes
Team Space Ghost - 2 votes

As for Kenshin wasting Godzillas entire lower team, I highly doubt it, especially with him having the amazingly physically durable Stitch to battle against (who in his own one on one battle nearly defeated Rick Hunter in this very same arena, and Rick had alot of advantages Kenshin here doesnt) I see no reason why Leo cant stalemate Cammy long enough for Sailor Uranus to CRUSH Tula, and which would allow her to either join in the LW battle (freeing up Leonardo for help with their HW battle) or simply going straight into the Kenshin v Stitch brawl herself.

Team SGs MW just isnt up to snuff in this arena, and will likely get killed QUICK by Uranus, allowing her to swiftly help her other teammates. Considering Kenshin here was almost put in the MW class, Im not sure hes taking on Stitch, Uranus and Leo all by himself.

DTM
05/08/2005, 13:41
It'd be hard as heck to hit Uranus (dodging heat lasers and the like is what she does. And she has a sixth-sense against ambushes, so being invisible won't help), and she has a space laser of her own to fight back with. Plus, this isn't unknown terrain to her.


Plus, I'm with DTM on Godzilla taking Space Ghost's attack. It's hard to take down the big G. The better support team and Tula being pretty much a LW in this terrain (and Vs. someone who's lived on the moon!) helps too.

My vote: Team Godzilla.

Er, make that 4 votes to 2, Team Godzilla As Q snuck his vote in as I was typing up my post). Sheesh, not even a 2 minute edit time anymore, this I DONT like.

icymatt
05/08/2005, 13:46
I bet Space Ghost could take on Godzilla's support. No one said he had to fight Godzilla first. Plus, this terrain was inspired by his show, so this is basically his
home turf. I would advise SG supporters not to bring up Tula, as she wouldn't be overtly useful this time.

BTW, how did Imhotep's freeze spell work?

Q99
05/08/2005, 13:58
I bet Space Ghost could take on Godzilla's support. No one said he had to fight Godzilla first. Plus, this terrain was inspired by his show, so this is basically his
home turf.


Totally open LOS, so Godzilla can engage him as well (all the rest of the battles are going to take place while other beams fly around in the air, most likely).


Both Stich and Uranus (especially Uranus- guardian of the Moon Kingdom and all) have space experiance too, which should help.

Maniac_nmt
05/08/2005, 23:10
Don't see Stich or Uranus being much help against Space Ghost.

Combat tactics Mr. Ryan, combat tactics. SG keeps swaping up opponents. All he has to do is keep Godzilla's attention focus'd on him. Which isn't that hard given the potency of his blasts (they can shatter giant asteroids in single blasts, and large ammounts of them quickly to boot). While tossing shots in to help his team.

Having a better, well at least more options and more team orriented SHW, let's team Space Ghost play hit and run, and then they just serve to be distractions to let Space Ghost finally put the monster down.

Rando
05/09/2005, 02:36
Team Godzilla

The only person on Space Ghost's entire team that can even affect Godzilla is Tula (maybe), so as long as Godzilla's entire team can manage to kill the opposition's middle weight then they win.

The Red Baron
05/09/2005, 08:28
Stitch wont be a promblem for Ken, Ken has enough power to take down Godzillas entire team, but Godzilla but with Ghost's team running interfenrce I think they can bring him down

hail_eris
05/09/2005, 11:38
Wanna know how I see the SHW battle playing out? Godzilla's eyebeams lock with SG's wrist beams and the two kind of meet in the middle. Then you get that tug of war that always seems to happen in cartoons - the two different colored beams sort of fluctuate back and forth for a couple seconds. And then the big lizard in Space Ghost's back yard lets rip with the fire breath. Vicious cooking and smacking around ensues. In the 3 on 2 battle in the lower weight classes (Tula doesn't even rate in this terrain), Godzilla's team also outclasses SG's. Team Godzilla to advance.

The Red Baron
05/09/2005, 12:05
Why do people say Godzillas team outclasses space ghost let take a look.
Leo vs Cammy winner cammy
Streght- Tie, both are slighty enhaced

Fighting skill- Cammy, while leo is good he fights with a team of equal people while cammy is solo

Speed- Cammy, at least i think that

Durbilty- Leo

Smarts- Cammy, sure leo is smart but he needs his friends and time to plan

Salior Uranos vs Tula winner uranos
Tula is killed on everything

Stitch vs Ken winner ken
Streght- Stitch, while ken could lift a car and has done so stitch can do it with ease

Fighting skill- Ken, he needs to land on punch on you before you die, he can also throw rocks and things at bullet like speed.

Speed- Ken, think flash but only up close

Durbility- Tie

Smart- Ken, if we were going by what they say then what they do i would say stitch but ken has been shown to do and act a whole lot smarter than stitch

Godzilla vs Space Ghost winner space ghost
Streght- Godzilla, not even close

Fighting skill- Space Ghost, once again not even close

Speed- Space Ghost, he can fly and be more agile

Durbility- Tie

Smarts- Space Ghost, sure this is a "smart godzilla" but he isn't that smart, space ghost is enough to handle him

The Red Baron
05/09/2005, 12:06
stupid edit, it seems to me that team space ghost out classes team godzilla here.

Q99
05/09/2005, 12:20
Durbility- Tie

I think this is a primary area of disagreement. Godzilla is one of the most durable combatants there is, and Space Ghost is still mostly a human with forcefields.


And in the lower ranks, I think the fact that two are close, while one will blow away her opponent in no-time and then either help Stitch against Ken with her sword that can slice through anything (or she can fire powerful attacks that are a lot safer than getting into HtH with him, but if Stitch knocks him down, she can make him stay down with the sword), or help out Leo (which I'm not sure if he needed. Swords and shell are a nice edge for him, so even if it's a long fight, he should win) so they can both help out Stitch. Or she can shoot at Space Ghost and give him two sources of ranged attacks he needs to worry about.

hail_eris
05/09/2005, 12:27
Anyone else feel a little bit sorry for Tula? She's like the anti-Captain Planet. They've both got powers linked to the earth, and they've both gotten lousy terrain pulls, but she's the only one that gets called on it...

MSU
05/09/2005, 12:33
Anyone else feel a little bit sorry for Tula? She's like the anti-Captain Planet. They've both got powers linked to the earth, and they've both gotten lousy terrain pulls, but she's the only one that gets called on it...

I feel bad for her...she has earth manipulation properties and cannot do anything else. Well, LW h2h fighting, but thats it. She gets called cause she cannot turn into anything, just manipulate the environment. Since there is no environment she can manipulate, she just kinda sits there.

The Red Baron
05/09/2005, 13:38
q99, all ken usally does is fight superfast people with a bladed weapon, salior u shouldnt be a problem. He only needs one punch

Corzair
05/11/2005, 07:38
There is too much difference between the intelligence of the two teams... In team Godzilla they only have 2 beings that are intelligent enough not to fall to the tactics that their enemies will employ... Wheras team Space Ghost, almost everyone can do this... As soon as Leonardo and the Sailormoon is defeated. Team Godzilla will lose hands down... and the way Im seeing it is that team space ghost will have no problem doing this... So my vote TEAM SPACEGHOST