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View Full Version : Clix vs. Comix TOC! 36-40pts. Round 1 Match 14: ULTIMATE HAWKEYE VS. ARCHANGEL


Magnito
05/15/2005, 12:18
Looks like Rouge had a big dis advantage being without Ms. Marvel's powers, letting Wulf move on.

I was playing Heroclix the other day, and building my team, I had 103 points left. I looked at my selection and realized that U HT Batman and R IC Hulk both cost the same. This got me thinking. Just because they are Heroclix equals doesn’t translate back translate back to comics. I think most of us would agree that Hulk could beat Batman in a fight.

That is the idea for this tournament. Every entry will be close to the same amount of points Heroclix wise, but this will be their comic forms fighting!

Rules:
This will be a standard single elimination tournament with 32 combatants. There will be 2 to a fight. They get no knowledge of each other (unless they have fought in the past). The only thing they get is the Heroclix figure of there enemies, and a PAC so they know what the opponent looks like and a bit about what they can do (this can be misleading however, like if they face Electro and think he will try to poison them). They will have 5 minutes to prepare. This is a fight to the death or KO, whichever happens first, and they must fight (no waiting for the opponent to die of starvation). They have with them what they normally carry and what there fig has if it is different. (Like how Bullseye doesn’t carry a gun, but he has one on the fig). If the fig that is being used is the rookie, you do NOT have to treat the fighter like that. (unless the characters powers change dramatically ie: Rouge)

When you vote, please try to justify your answer. You don’t have to write an essay, just a short explanation will do.

Terrain
There are 10 terrains that are all 5 miles in diameter. They will be chosen randomly.
With out further delay…

Ultimate Hawkeye
UL, 40pts.
vs.
Archangel
CM, 37pts.

Terrain:
The Docks by hail_eris
This bustling waterfront area is a hive of activity. Bystanders are plentiful, as stevedores unload cargo from the massive ships that line the docks. The nearby freight yard is maze-like, with walls of shipping containers reaching a height of four stories. Cranes, fork lifts, fuel tanks, and the contents of the containers themselves provide added "amusement" for the combatants. (inspired by The Wire: Season Two)

21-25pts. winner: Live Wire
26-30pts. winner: Zatanna
31-35pts. winner: Killer Frost

Round 1
Sabertooth vs. Fury: Sabertooth
Starman vs. Lizard: Starman
The Darkness vs. Plastic Man: Plastic Man
Clayface III vs. Abbey Chase: Clayface III
Mr. Hyde vs. Harpoon: Mr. Hyde
Constrictor vs. Puck: Puck
Wildchild vs. Scarecrow: Scarecrow
Taskmaster vs. Hyena: Taskmaster
Boon vs. Human Torch: Human Torch
Brainiac 5 vs. Calypso: Brainiac 5
Ultimate Doctor Octopus vs. Talia: Ultimate Doctor Octopus
Ravager vs. Logan: Logan
Wulf Sternhammer vs. Rouge: Wulf Sternhammer
Ultimate Hawkeye vs. Archangel:

Magnito
05/15/2005, 12:21
HAWKEYE (Ultimate)
Originally a member of SHIELD's Shadow Team, Clint Barton worked with Black Widow, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch to help the Ultimates stop the Chitauri's invasion. Hawkeye has since been "promoted" to the Ultimates and helped take down Magneto's Brotherhood. Hawkeye is an uncanny shot with a bow; able to fire a volley of arrows at a dead run with unerring accuracy.

ARCHANGEL
One of the X-men's founding members, Warren Worthington III first used his mutant wings as the crime fighter, the Avenging Angel. His wing span was an impressive 16 feet and they were so flexible they could be hidden under his clothes. Never one to stay still, Warren formed the Champions and later joined the Defenders. After starting X-Factor with his old X-men teammates, he was seriously wounded by the mutant hunter Harpoon and had to have his wings amputated. Driven to desperation, Warren turned to Apocalypse who subjected him to genetic alteration which turned his skin blue and regrew his wings; this time as organic metal. Eventually he took the name Archangel, rejoined the X-men and his feathered wings returned to normal.

Magnito
05/15/2005, 12:24
NOTE: The thing is, Archangel does go through a power change, but since he gets his original powers back, you can assume this is him after those powers returned.

St-Dumas
05/15/2005, 12:41
Archangel after the powers returned, huh?

Well, this battle could go either way, so i'm going to vote for my favorite of the two. Archangel flies around, dodging Hawkeyes arrows until he gets close, the throws away his bow, picks him up and drops him in the water.

My vote: Archangel

WakandaMan
05/15/2005, 12:45
This is a tough one. Hawkeye has accuracy, while Archangel has agility. But since Clint never misses, I'm thinking he'll peg the bird before he gets close enough to hurt him.

He's just that good ;)

My vote: Hawkeye

NotYou
05/15/2005, 18:37
Doesn't Ultimate Hawkeye's "trick" arrow collection include a mini nuke?
Does anyone think he wouldn't use it?
Even without it this is almost literally a duck shoot.

MSU
05/15/2005, 18:44
Gotta go with CLint on this, although I like Warren better. If Warren has some sort of ranged attack, then this would be closer, but without it, Clint is going to take pot shots at Warren until he falls. Clint to move on to round 2.

Magnito
05/15/2005, 18:54
Warren will be hard to hit, but with no range, Clint will sniper him down sooner or later. My vote...
ULTIMATE HAWKEYE

Maniac_nmt
05/15/2005, 19:17
Doesn't Ultimate Hawkeye's "trick" arrow collection include a mini nuke?
Does anyone think he wouldn't use it?
Even without it this is almost literally a duck shoot.

His arsenal does indeed include a tac nuke arrow, capable of wasting Ultimate Colossus. He's also completely willing to use it. He has zero qualms about killing, or destroying things in the process.

Along with electro arrows (nails Rogue with some funky arrow), and adamantium tipped arrows (that's what I can think of right now).

Archangel isn't going to be as hard a target as a several hunder mile an hour Ultimate Hulk, shooting from a chopper, with a bullet in his arm.

GAMURAI
05/16/2005, 00:39
If it was apocalypse enhanced archangel i would give it to him but as it is just normal feathery wings angel i can see clint clipping those wings more often than not.

St-Dumas
05/16/2005, 00:55
Let me reiterate

Archangel after the powers returned, huh?

He has regenerative capabilities. Just though i'd remind you guys.

Maniac_nmt
05/16/2005, 08:37
If it was apocalypse enhanced archangel i would give it to him .

Yeah, but Sabertooth, who can hardly be called as accurate as Ultimate Hawkeye, shot him with a high powered rifle. Sure the bullet travels faster, but count in Hawkeye's massively upgraded skill to pick up those pieces (and as mentioned, he did hit the Hulk while said creature was running a couple hundred miles an hour, from the door of a moving chopper. He also nailed the Toad enhanced Rogue at long range while she was bouncing all over).

NotYou
05/16/2005, 15:26
Let me reiterate



He has regenerative capabilities. Just though i'd remind you guys.

You're saying he can shrug off a nuke?

hail_eris
05/17/2005, 13:14
There's *way* too much cover here for Hawkeye to exploit. My personal favorite scenario has Clint pulling Warren into a trench run through the container yard before opening up on him with a volley. Of course, he could just wait until Archangel is over the water before nailing him with one of his incap arrows. Those big, fluffy wings will soak up water like a sponge. Without a ranged attack, Warren's toast here. Hawkeye to advance.