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DTM
05/19/2005, 04:52
Yep, after a LONG TIME AWAY, Im Back doing a Marvel/DC Tournament of Champions......least one last time.

We have our list of 32 combatants, which you all had the chance to help create and that are completely different from our very first Marvel/DC TOC way back close to a year and a half ago (and for good reason).

So, before we begin this hopefully well received and highly voted on TOC, Id like to hear which of the following combatants you feel will be in the Final Four, and if youre feeling up to it, WHY?


SHW COMICS TOC (PART 2)


1. Jean Grey (70’s Phoenix)
2. Absorbing Man
3. Maestro
4. Kurse (2X Thor’s Power)
5. Hercules (with Mace)
6. Nova
7. Morg (Non Magical Well Enhanced)
8. Wonder Man
9. Brainiac 13
10. Mon-El
11. Supergirl (current Kara version)
12. Guy Gardner (Yellow Ring)
13. Super Woman (CSA)
14. Captain Atom
15. Ultron
16. Kalibak
17. Power Girl
18. Ulik
19. Validus
20. General Zod
21. Annihilus
22. Loki
23. Graviton
24. The General
25. Count Nefaria
26. Beta Ray Bill
27. Despero (Non Virtue/Vice form)
28. Mongul
29. Orion
30. Amazo (Original 5 JLA)
31. Dr. Fate (Kent Nelson)
32. Green Lantern (Alan Scott)

If anyone feels any of these characters are too powerful for the SHW class, meaning you believe them to be in the Cosmic Beings level, please say so here as well.

Enjoy all. :)

Maniac_nmt
05/19/2005, 08:44
Final 4

Alan Scott
Dr. Fate (Kent Nelson)
Beta Ray Bill (if you've been reading Stormbreaker, he could be a sho-in to win the whole thing, he's recently taken a piece out of Galactus, proved more dirrectly powerful then a hearld going all out, and demolished a small moon/very large asteroid)
Amazo

All 4 have a very versitile power set, covering most areas, yet still are dirrectly poerful enough to damage everyone here.

Q99
05/19/2005, 08:49
Fate's an obvious contender. I'll also throw in a "Long shot" of sorts in Orion, he's overlooked but incredibly powerful as well as clever. Hmm... hard to tell who else...

Prof. Aragorn
05/19/2005, 09:22
Validus-Pure brick could easily be the Doomsday of this TOC

Green Lantern-Alan Scott is pretty powerful, however, the terrain will probably beat him if there's enough wood.

Maestro-Intelligence with strength on an unmarked level . . .

Dr. Fate-very strong magicks, could easily best a lot of the characters on this list.

Honorable Mentions:

Loki
Orion
Beta Ray Bill
The General

MSU
05/19/2005, 11:48
Fate, Kara, Loki, and Guy Gardner GL...I think Kara is gonna surprise people because we don't know what she is vulnerable too (from Superman/Batman fight with Poison Ivy....thats kinda freaky).

DTM
05/19/2005, 14:05
Final 4

Alan Scott
Dr. Fate (Kent Nelson)
Beta Ray Bill (if you've been reading Stormbreaker, he could be a sho-in to win the whole thing, he's recently taken a piece out of Galactus, proved more dirrectly powerful then a hearld going all out, and demolished a small moon/very large asteroid)
Amazo

All 4 have a very versitile power set, covering most areas, yet still are dirrectly poerful enough to damage everyone here.


Hmmmmm, OK, if this is the case, it looks like Beta Ray Bill got some huge power increase, as Thor himself wouldnt be able to do what youre saying BRB did, not routinely anyway.

Looks like well have to use BRB in his Pre Stormbreaker series form.

Maniac_nmt
05/19/2005, 14:08
Hmmmmm, OK, if this is the case, it looks like Beta Ray Bill got some huge power increase, as Thor himself wouldnt be able to do what youre saying BRB did, not routinely anyway.

Looks like well have to use BRB in his Pre Stormbreaker series form.

Well, Thor on do or die time is that powerful. Which is what Storm breaker is for Beta Ray.

He's also more outright willing to slap that kind of power down then Thor. I don't think it's any real power increase.

DTM
05/19/2005, 14:11
Personally im going with:

Maestro - incredible cunning and intellect mixed with a body thats the equivalent to a "KC Hulk".

Amazo - an amazing range of powers from some of the best heroes in DC, Combined.

Morg - easily one of the strongest overall characters, who even in this form, is essentially a vicious Silver Surfer.

GL Alan Scott - unreal power and loads of experience, though his weakness and human body could cost him.

DTM
05/19/2005, 14:43
Personally im going with:

Maestro - incredible cunning and intellect mixed with a body thats the equivalent to a "KC Hulk".

Amazo - an amazing range of powers from some of the best heroes in DC, Combined.

Morg - easily one of the strongest overall characters, who even in this form, is essentially a vicious Silver Surfer.

GL Alan Scott - unreal power and loads of experience, though his weakness and human body could cost him.


Actually, Im going to switch Alan Scott with General Zod. An equally powerful, equally intelligent, vastly more vicious Superman should be able to handle this or any GL more than not (Unless Zod, like Superman, has a weakness to magic, than Ill put Alan GL back up)

SyxxPac
05/19/2005, 15:51
I'm going off the wall, maybe, and going with Zod, Ultron, Loki, and The General

MSJLion
05/23/2005, 00:09
Wow, this could be a very close TOC, lot of powerful people with a lot of varitey of powers. My final four I believe are gonna be

Captain Atom- Qualtiy comic's Superman. My darkhorse.
Alan Scott GL- Lots of power, lots of experince. And he wrote the book on Willpower.
Dr. Fate- Strong magic user with loads of experince.
Amazo- Again, lots of power, not too many weakness.

michiganj24
05/28/2005, 14:59
Despero
Valdius
Morg
Maestro

DTM
05/28/2005, 17:13
Despero
Valdius
Morg
Maestro



Hmmmm, I see youve put Morg on your Final Four, yet vote against him in his battle against Alan Scott (who you dont have on your list above). Very Interesting

thedon99
05/31/2005, 14:40
I would've had Morg, but, he's not even in it anymore.

jedah_s
05/31/2005, 20:57
if i'm not too late to get a final 4 in.

loki
dr. fate
alan scott
amazo

thedon99
06/01/2005, 11:57
Since Alan Scott and Dr. Fate are virtually unbeatable and gods, I put them in automatically. Hell, Galactus wouldn't have a shot against either one of those guys. Amazo. Beta Ray Bill. Since others are getting huge power boosts, Beta Ray should too. I think someone mentioned his deeds in Stormbreaker, they should apply here.