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Scooterman
06/08/2005, 01:05
The HCRealms Trading Community,
I would really appreciate for everyone who can to read this, and any feedback that you have would be wonderful. I apologize for the length, but considering the issues, felt it was necessary to include the entire messages, as I fear being accused of selective editing.
I, an established Trader, (30+ Trade Rating at the time) sent a PM to a relatively new Trader, (current Trade Rating of 8) who had posted their have/want list in the Trading Forum. After a few PM's back and forth, we worked out a deal and exchanged shipping information. I said I would ship the next day, (which I did) the Trader said "I'll be in town later this week so i'll get your clix out to you ASAP."
3 days later I received a PM saying that because the Trader had not received a DC#, they had not shipped. He was unsure if I wanted to go through with the trade, (though I clearly said that I would be shipping the next day) but had set my figures aside. I let him know that I had already shipped, that because it was a cross border trade, (I am in Canada, he is in the United States) DC#'s were not used and asked him to please get mine out ASAP.
10 days later, I receive a PM saying "Got your box yesterday and am sending out on monday. I need your address again to make sure and have listed the clix below i am to send. Correct me if I'm wrong." I asked for a post to my Trade Rating, I confirmed the trade, I re-sent my address and included the following:
"Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but on May 23, when you told me "Sounds good. My info is below. I'll be in town later this week so i'll get your clix out to you ASAP." That was just a lie? You made the decision that I would be sending first? That is rather upsetting. (I can forward you that PM if you like, since it sounds like you have gotten rid of it.)"
His response was:
"No I didn't lie but the whole not having a DC number on your part made me a bit skeptical as if you were really going through with the trade. Too many rips here lately so with that I decided I better wait and see if you really sent or not. I didn't want to lie or trick you into sending first but I had to watch out for myself first and like I said no DC number could have meant you didnt even send to begin with. Of course i was wrong and do apologize but hope you see it from my view point. I haven't traded in canada much so I am not familiar if you guys have DC or not. Moving on though. Your clix came and yours will be going out tomorrow."
To which I replied:
"Hate to break it to you, but yes, you did lie. You told me you would send, you haven't sent. That is a lie. The motivation behind the lie does not change the fact that it was a lie.
You decided that my 30+ trade rating, (more than triple yours) with many established traders, didn't mean anything. I strongly suggest that you adjust your trading practises in the future.
A couple tips on trading with Canadians since you have so little experience...do not value the package over $20, mark the package as a gift, and you can't get a DC# for it. (we can, but it costs more and since Americans can not we generally do not since it would not be fair)
Additionally, I expect that you will add to my Trade Rating soon. You have received the package, have expressed no disappointment with the package, and have logged on a number of times since receiving the package. I do not understand the delay in posting."
Today I got my post...a negative response saying "Wanted a Simusend but submitted no DC# as proof. Got angry when I opted to wait."
That is pretty much the entire situation. I have not received anything, and, consequently, have not posted to his Trade Rating yet.
I felt justified in what I wrote, and did not expect this. Should I have expected it, was I not justified, was I out of line? What should I do, I now have (what I feel to be) an unjust, negative response on my Trade Rating, that I feel will reflect negatively on me in future trades. Is there anything that I can do about it? How should I respond? Other than posting this thread, should I give a negative feedback as well? (I had planned on leaving a neutral remark because of the shipping, but now am unsure) I will be linking this thread to whatever I decide to leave.
I'm completely shocked and do not know where to go from here. HCRealms Traders, please help!
Thanks for your time,
Scott
(Don't know if this is the proper place for this thread, if it's not, those that can, please move it, thanks!)
50centfan
06/08/2005, 01:24
hmm.. so have you gotten the figs yet?
okay.
I'm on your side... but one thing: you were pretty heavy handed with him. an easier-going additude may have avoided the slanderous outcome. No please remember: I'm with you on this one. Just saying that in the future it might be more helpful if you don't slam a guy and call him a lier.
It seems like a straightforward misunderstanding that went too far. I would contact him, apologize for the insult and work with him and the administartor to clean the mar off your record.
the process (out in the open, under admin scutiny) should guarentee the arrival of your pieces. and isn't that really the most important part? that the trade go through and you get your fair share? definatly more important than whether or not his conduct was appropriate.
now you have my two cents. rub them together and make a wish. :nervous:
torontcollectr
06/08/2005, 06:28
Our 2 Cents-
First off we are Canadian as well. (As if that should make a difference)
We have dealt numerous times both here and on ebay (over 700 transactions) so we do know a little about what we are talking about.
It would seem that each trade/purchase situation has its own flaws built in, therefore it is customary (especially as a more experienced trader to protect yourself as best as possible).
Delivery confirmation is expensive from Canada to USA, which we ourselves seldom use, unless the value warrants it. When shipping from Canada it is far more practical to ship via airmail package rate which includes insurance up to $100.00 for loss or damage.
We have heard from different people across the USA, some saying there is no DC to Canada, and others that say there is. We know for a FACT that it is available as we have received packages with DC and tracking.
The real issue comes down to integrity. We have been in the same situation as you with 1 trader that despite a simulsend agreement (had a decent rating at the time)in January that he did not send till April- despite receiving our clix- until we posted to the Bad trader list (At which time he was leaving clix, selling off, including the figs we sent!).
There is no real answer. We follow a simple rule - If you have a reputation/feedback longer than 10, been over 6 months here we will simulsend. If less the other party sends first. If that is not ok, then we say no thanks. There is nothing more aggravating than being lied to.
As for repairing your rep. At least on ebay you can rebut the negative (perhaps a link to the transaction details...), that might be something to be looked at here.
Sorry to be long winded and hope you are able to settle your differences.
sstralkowski
06/08/2005, 08:16
Dude, I've traded with you and I know your an upstanding guy. Our transaction was one of my smoothest trades. Obviously I'm on your side on this one. I think that maybe your wording of your comment to him could have been a little better so as not to sound aggressive, but it needed to be said. You did no wrong. The dude purposely deceived you. That's bad form. I'd wait a couple more days to see if you receive the figs, and then address it again. If he's unresponsive and abrasive, then leave negative. You should also address his feedback to you. You followed the rules to the letter and still he gives you neg because he's a slacker? Not cool. I seriously think you should give his name so we can be more informed, but that's your call. Good luck man. I feel for you.
Having dealt with Canada a couple times now, I can tell you that each time I've shipped and asked for a DC#, I've been told that it's not possible. I haven't been told that it's too expensive. I've been told that I can't do it.
shadowchaser
06/08/2005, 08:18
Hey Scooterman,
If there was not an agreement to use Delivery Confirmation, the other party is completely out of line. They should have honored the original agreement to send the figs when they said they would.
However I do think you could have been a little more diplomatic about it. Insisting on feedback was a little strong in my opinion.
Also, if anyone questions your reputation as a trader here, please refer them to me. I know we've had a trade or two, and will happily tell anyone who wants to know that you are an honorable and honest trader.
Advise for the present - I dont think that adding a neutral or negative feedback saying something like "aggreed to simulsend - did not" would be out of line.
Advice for the future - spell the deal out. Make it said and clear that there will be no DC#.
If you'd care to, i'd like to know who that was. Send me a pm if you are willing.
RexFelis
06/08/2005, 08:49
I'm pretty sure that similar situations have happened to me, but never anything I could prove. I've never dealt with anyone stupid enough to publicly admit what they had done like yours...
Since he was dumb enough to admit his offence in the feedback he left for you, I was able to see his name without you posting it, & now I know never to trade with him...
On that level, I might want that piece of feedback to stay, just so you can point at it & say "Hey, look at this dope!" and laugh, assuming you ever get the figures. If you don't get the figures soon, though, you might want to reort him to his local authorities for mail fraud...
Wow, Scooterman. This guy is very dishonest. I'm glad you posted this.
I'm going to break to down here, so I know I've got everything straight.
You both agreed to a trade. The terms agreed to were simul-send (although based on amount and quality of feedback, Scooterman could have justifiably requested the other sender send first), and DC was not discussed.
Then, unbeknownst to Scooterman, the other trader unilaterally decided to change these agreed upon conditions purely based on the fact that Scooterman didn't MENTION a DC#. Note: I didn't say the trader decided to do this based on no DC, just purely on the fact that Scooterman didn't mention one.
I assume that is all correct?
From all accounts (including the "bad" trader in question, via PM), Scooterman did nothing wrong. Scooterman held up his end of the bargain perfectly.
The other trader did not.
Scooterman, I think you have an obligation to reveal this guy's username in these posts. It's easy enough to find his name by clicking on your feedback, but his name should be printed here for clarity.
Now, Scooterman, had I been you, I would have waited for the figures from him to arrive before I started laying into him (oh, and I would have responded the same way--and have to others in the past!--I just would have waited a while longer), since I'd be worried this guy was trying to rip you off. And I would have had the fear that he was just looking for an excuse to not send at all.
This guy is deserving of a Bad Trader's thread, which is one of the reasons I don't like the new system for feedback. There's no way for others to weigh in on this issue in the feedback itself.
And as a courtesy to the non-Canadians here, on average (assuming a ~200 count white card box), shipping with a DC to the US from Canada costs on the order of ~$20 CDN, usually a little more. That's for a small box--I don't know how much that increases with size.
Summary: This guy deserves nagative feedback, and I for one will not trade with this guy. Scooterman did no wrong. Scooterman's response, while harsh, is justified and I would have done the same thing.
Caveat: I know Scooterman, and consider him a friend. But, my support and response would have been the same had this happened to anyone else. Feel free to check my posts to the bad trader forum to verify this--my stance on bad traders of this nature has not changed, and my support of traders like Scooterman has never wavered.
This bad trader guy (and traders like him) is why we have as many rip-off guys as we do on the 'Realms.
Acmite
The HCRealms Trading Community,
I would really appreciate for everyone who can to read this, and any feedback that you have would be wonderful. I apologize for the length, but considering the issues, felt it was necessary to include the entire messages, as I fear being accused of selective editing.
I, an established Trader, (30+ Trade Rating at the time) sent a PM to a relatively new Trader, (current Trade Rating of 8) who had posted their have/want list in the Trading Forum. After a few PM's back and forth, we worked out a deal and exchanged shipping information. I said I would ship the next day, (which I did) the Trader said "I'll be in town later this week so i'll get your clix out to you ASAP."
3 days later I received a PM saying that because the Trader had not received a DC#, they had not shipped. He was unsure if I wanted to go through with the trade, (though I clearly said that I would be shipping the next day) but had set my figures aside. I let him know that I had already shipped, that because it was a cross border trade, (I am in Canada, he is in the United States) DC#'s were not used and asked him to please get mine out ASAP.
10 days later, I receive a PM saying "Got your box yesterday and am sending out on monday. I need your address again to make sure and have listed the clix below i am to send. Correct me if I'm wrong." I asked for a post to my Trade Rating, I confirmed the trade, I re-sent my address and included the following:
"Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but on May 23, when you told me "Sounds good. My info is below. I'll be in town later this week so i'll get your clix out to you ASAP." That was just a lie? You made the decision that I would be sending first? That is rather upsetting. (I can forward you that PM if you like, since it sounds like you have gotten rid of it.)"
His response was:
"No I didn't lie but the whole not having a DC number on your part made me a bit skeptical as if you were really going through with the trade. Too many rips here lately so with that I decided I better wait and see if you really sent or not. I didn't want to lie or trick you into sending first but I had to watch out for myself first and like I said no DC number could have meant you didnt even send to begin with. Of course i was wrong and do apologize but hope you see it from my view point. I haven't traded in canada much so I am not familiar if you guys have DC or not. Moving on though. Your clix came and yours will be going out tomorrow."
To which I replied:
"Hate to break it to you, but yes, you did lie. You told me you would send, you haven't sent. That is a lie. The motivation behind the lie does not change the fact that it was a lie.
You decided that my 30+ trade rating, (more than triple yours) with many established traders, didn't mean anything. I strongly suggest that you adjust your trading practises in the future.
A couple tips on trading with Canadians since you have so little experience...do not value the package over $20, mark the package as a gift, and you can't get a DC# for it. (we can, but it costs more and since Americans can not we generally do not since it would not be fair)
Additionally, I expect that you will add to my Trade Rating soon. You have received the package, have expressed no disappointment with the package, and have logged on a number of times since receiving the package. I do not understand the delay in posting."
Today I got my post...a negative response saying "Wanted a Simusend but submitted no DC# as proof. Got angry when I opted to wait."
That is pretty much the entire situation. I have not received anything, and, consequently, have not posted to his Trade Rating yet.
I felt justified in what I wrote, and did not expect this. Should I have expected it, was I not justified, was I out of line? What should I do, I now have (what I feel to be) an unjust, negative response on my Trade Rating, that I feel will reflect negatively on me in future trades. Is there anything that I can do about it? How should I respond? Other than posting this thread, should I give a negative feedback as well? (I had planned on leaving a neutral remark because of the shipping, but now am unsure) I will be linking this thread to whatever I decide to leave.
I'm completely shocked and do not know where to go from here. HCRealms Traders, please help!
Thanks for your time,
Scott
(Don't know if this is the proper place for this thread, if it's not, those that can, please move it, thanks!)
Advice for the future - spell the deal out. Make it said and clear that there will be no DC#.
I see the wisdom in this, but I don't think the responsibility lies with Scooterman. Is Scooterman (or any other trader for that matter) supposed to mention all the things he isn't doing?
If the guy wanted DC, they should have discussed it. Period.
If Scooterman had wanted DC, I have no doubt he would have asked for it (although he, like most of us, has been led to believe that DC is not available).
Simul-send is simul-send. Not you sned with DC, then I send afterwards. If such were the case, Scooterman would NOT have been the one to send anyway, what with having 3x the amount of good feedback and all.
earinfection
06/08/2005, 10:39
Heres my problem with it: If it was suppose to be at the same time then how could he justify waiting to see the DC #?
Course this is what I feel about the whole thing:
Theres nothing wrong about hitting someone with a negative. This sounds pretty negative to me overall. He felt what you said (Which was heavy handed, in my opinion) warranted him letting people know you could get aggressive if things did not go as expected. Now you hitting him with a negative lets us all know that simu-send means to him to hold out until yours comes in. Very helpful information to everyone.
The plus I see (Correct me if I'm wrong, people) is that if you guys to come to an understanding then you can edit the feedback and change them to a neutral (Please don't change them to a positive since this was anything but) but I feel a negative warrants a negative.
Update this thread if/when the figures show up..
Artie Deco
06/08/2005, 11:47
Scooterman,
You didn't do anything wrong. Nothing to warrant a negative feedback. The guy got his figures in excellent condition (I assume), that warrants a positive feedback. If he doesn't like your attitude, he could have given you a positive feedback and then say in the comments "I didn't like his attitude". Or at most, he could have given you a neutral feedback -- "I didn't like his attitude, but I did get my figs".
If there is no way for you to remove the negative feedback, I think you would be justified leaving a negative feedback for him -- even if you get your figures. With the comment "Unjustly gave me a negative feedback" or something like that.
Trading feedback should be used to rate how well people TRADE, not what you think about that person's manners, fer cryin' out loud. This guy has used the trade feedback dishonestly.
First, I would like to go on record saying that I am the reason for the warning on every one of scooterman's posts about sending as Gift and <$20. I screwed up on my first Canadian trade. (and it was an important one)
Scooterman and I discussed it and I think we worked it out fairly. (ending up sending him an addional LE, this time Gift and <$20 value) to make up for the import costs of the first package.
What this guy did is unacceptable.
shadowchaser
06/08/2005, 12:12
Acmite,
By suggesting Scooterman "spell the deal out" I was not implying he should take complete responsibitlity. I've just learned in my trading experiences, that if it is not discussed, it cannot be assumed the other party will do it.
That's why I always mention, both parties pack in a secure box with delivery confirmation or whatever. a little anal retentive sure, but the extra communication helps prevent miscommunications.
Scooterman
06/08/2005, 18:46
Wow, I really didn't expect this many responses. Thank you all for your input.
I have not received my figures yet, but his latest PM told me that he would be sending out this past Mon., so I do not expect them yet. He has shown no indication of not following through on this part of the deal, just the part about sending at the same time. At this point, my issue is with his feedback to me, however, if that changes, I will update this thread.
Looking back, yes, I was "heavy handed". I felt, and feel, completely justified in everything I wrote, but I could have been more tactful. In my initial response to finding out he waited, I could have left out the question of lying, but that is what it was. On the other hand, I could have been much worse. I could have made a "don't trade with this person" thread, I could have been much less tactful. (I never called him a liar, just mentioned (only once) that he had lied and that I did not appreciate it) My 2nd response was just a reaction to his. "No I didn't lie" just set me off and that was the end of tact. (which was still not as bad as it could have been) I would say that I am generally an easy going trader, even when problems do arise, but, apparently, me breaking-point is when I'm lied to, the person that lied to me tells me that they didn't lie and tries to tiptoe around the fact that they lied.
My understanding of Canada/US trades and DC#'s is as follows...Canadian traders can get DC#'s for trades to the US, but it costs more. Most US traders can not get DC#'s for trades to Canada at the post office. (but this is apparently being phased in) US traders can get DC#'s at special mailing outlets, but this costs more. (possibly for both ends, as was the case in my trade with Kurenai, his was not actually the $20 fiasco...I received an invoice the week after I picked up my box!) Consequently, Canadians don't use DC#'s unless it is discussed and factored in, Americans do not used DC#'s because they can't get them. (with some exceptions)
I chose to "simulsend" with this trader because, though their Trade Rating was low, I recognized most of the names on the list as established traders and had traded with some already. After this situation, I may have to amend my trading policies in the future. I would not have agreed to send first, if I had been told that is what was going to happen.
Before his feedback, I had decided to leave something along the lines of...neutral rank - Figures fine, he agreed to simulsend, but waited for mine to arrive. Now, I'm just not sure what to leave. (will wait and see how/when the figures arrive before deciding though!) I feel the reason for his negative response was mainly because he expected a negative from me and wanted to hurt my reputation also. (which would also explain why he tried to wait, to see what I would put on his so he could respond accordingly) While utterly tactless, I do not think that I deserved a negative response. (as Artie Deco stated, it's not a representation of the trader's attitude, it's whether the trade went well. At least that how I, and apparently Artie, see the Trade Rating system) The fact that he says nothing about the figures he received being in excellent condition, that it was fast, well packed, whatever, really irks me. From his feedback it could be perceived that he did not choose to trade because I got angry when he didn't simulsend. Not that we agreed to simulsend, and he didn't, which made me angry.
earinfection - That is a wonderful question...how could he justify that? I'm not sure...while understand your view of the feedback system, (and yes, it is an all-round negative trade) it's not how I use the system.
I still do not feel right about sticking his username here. (and yes, he left feedback so it can be found...but I did not say it first! :grin: ) If you would like his username, (or mailing address, so you can avoid him if he chooses to change his username) PM me and I will provide it. If there are any further problems, I will update and add his username to this thread.
Oh, and since my tact is in question...I have, successfully so far, been holding back from sending a PM asking for him to return my figures to me unless he can provide me with a DC# on his shipment! (just to cover myself, you know :) ) How's that for tact!
(Trader, you know who you are, I'm sure you don't want to post here, but PM if you think we can work this out)
Harley238A
06/08/2005, 19:12
another 2 cents...
The negative feedback was out of line. The waiting to send was also out of line. I can understand his train of thought but it was a deception.
Being too aggressive was not the best way to handle it, but did not warrant a negative feedback. If you ask me he asked for a negative feedback in return. The feedbacks on trading can be real touchie. shipping times, words exchanged, ect can cause someone in haste to leave bad feedback. But with our current system there is not much we can do about it.
I have went as far as to plan my trip to go see the guy that ripped me off, and usually when they know about that their attitude changes. You would be surprised how close some of our paths cross when we least expect it. But I am Military and do travel abit more than some...
Just don't trade with anyone with a P.O. Box and you can find them in due time. Now this might seem a little aggressive, but it really ticks me off to get ripped off.... Not sure if "do unto others" or "an eye for an eye" applies...lol
I hope you get your fig... good luck in the future
Scooterman
06/09/2005, 01:26
Wow, so the lesson from my last post is clearly "Do not write if you don't have time to do it properly."
I didn't re-read it until a couple minutes ago, and I had way too many grammar/spelling mistakes for my liking. (that's right, "me breaking-point is"! :nervous: ) Not to mention I left out a couple of things that I had wanted to say.
As for "demanding" the feedback, I looked at it this way...the only public proof I had that he had received his figures was if he left feedback for me. I have the PM's but I'm sure that they could be doctored. I wanted some proof that he had got what we agreed on and feedback in my Trade Rating was what I felt was the best. I know that, had I been in his situation, (agreeing to a trade, lying about when I would send, receiving what I was promised, then telling the other person I would now send...wow, that was tactless again wasn't it...oops) the first thing that I would have done, before letting them know I would be sending *the rest of this sentence has been edited for tact*, would be posting to that person's Trade Rating. It gives a small indication of trying to make amends for the mistake. Having to be asked (multiple times) just screams "fishy" to me. (fishy was chosen over other, less tactful words)
Thanks again to all that have posted and viewed. I think I commented on most of what was brought up, and clarified the points that I was unclear on. (if I'm wrong, let me know and I'll try again) With a few more “my 2 cents” here and there, I’ll have myself a shiny new loonie in no time! (a loonie is one Canadian dollar, for those that don’t know :) )
Harley238A - remind me to never rip you off, I don't know you, but I'm pretty sure I don't need a visit from you! :laugh:
(Trader, once your package has arrived, I am still willing to leave neutral feedback for you, if my feedback is no longer negative. If that stays, I will leave negative feedback for you, because with it there, that is what this trade has been. Without the negative, it has not been good, just neutral. In case you have not seen this thread, I will be PM-ing you Fri. with a link and my hopes for a amicable resolution. And anytime you want to get me that DC# would be great! :eek: )
stark's heir
06/09/2005, 15:27
Scooterman- From reading the account (albeit, yours) of the situation, I too feel this "phoenixfire" guy was out of line with the Neg feed. I've been a good bit "hard-@$$ed" a few times, and I know it just makes matters worse...good luck trading in the future and if its any consolation, you're still trustworthy (opposed to my "jerkstore" listing)in my book.
earinfection
06/10/2005, 10:57
Well here's a senario I had on EBAY..
Won an auction. Agreed to pay by check. Filled it out that night and-- put it in my stack of bills to be paid next paydate. Entirely my fault but just a mistake. Now when I go through the bills 2 weeks later I find it and dumped it in the mailbox that night. About 2 weeks later I get a letter with my check APOLIGIZING that I took too long to pay and the items were resold. I check online and found out he left a POSITIVE saying I paid but he didn't get the money in time before he relisted the items. Was I upset? No Way!! His auction clearly said payment within 10 days. My screw-up. Point is who is really going to read all 500-700 positives I got word for word. Now lets say I 'lose' my payments all the time? Would a positive really anyone pause to trade with me?
I love neutrals. Nobody it out anything but things just didn't go right. I'm not offended if I get one because you get a chance to answer what they are claiming.
Negatives I feel are best used for deadbeats or fraud (Painting a KC on the side of a Hypertime Supes does not make him a KC supes). However, I will go - for - since I see it as clearly me and the other person could not work things out.
Now, just checking but it looks like you can edit the feedback you send. Anybody know if thats true or not? Again, I could see this as a good case for a neutral- Would be careful about simu-sending with him and make sure you and I have a full understanding before we proceed.
So to some it up- My feelings about feedback is its not for the people getting it, its for the people who will be dealing with them someday..
Hope you get them soon,
EI, EI, OH!!
Funky Jett
06/10/2005, 12:05
You can edit the text up to a specific time, but once that time has passed, it's set. You cannot change the rating though, and I do not believe there is a way to get it removed, as there is on eBay.
The best you can do is hope the guy sees the error in his ways and edits his text and then also gives him a positive feedback to counter the negative.
Leaving multiple positive feedbacks increases the total number, but does not increase your rating. Leaving multiple negative feedback decreases the total number, and from what I understand, will also decrease your rating as well. I know for a fact that's how eBay works, and this rating system was touted as an "eBay-type" feedback system, so it stands to reason it would be similar here as well.
Scooterman
08/09/2005, 02:19
Been quite a while.
The situation now is…
The figures he “sent” to me still haven’t arrived, he’s had my pieces since Late May/ Early June.
After quite a bit of communication, I had agreed to give the trade 2 months from his “send” date, but asked that we reach a suitable resolution before that time, if nothing should arrive. I agreed to, and requested this on July 5th. As of today, I have sent a number of PM’s about the subject, but only got responses along the lines of:
“I haven't answered because I am not too sure on what to do. Never been in this type of situation.”
“Well what to decide. I sent you all those clix and I am trusting you when you say you didn't get any of them. What on your mind would be a fait settlement and without having me feel like i was ripped since I had to put in extra.”
No resolution or commitment of any kind on his part to make up for whatever has occurred.
I explained that, if the situation was reversed, I would be sending the figures back. It wouldn’t make me happy to do so, but it is the right thing to do.
2 months, an exceptional amount of time to wait for a trade if I do say so, has passed, I have received nothing from him, and he has not agreed to any sort of compensation, although he has been given ample time and opportunity. I do not know what else I can do.
Aside from that, there is still the question of his feedback to me. While he received the figures in good time and excellent condition, he left me a negative feedback because he didn’t like that I got angry when he agreed to simul-send, but did not. By my interpretation, this seems to go directly against the “Leaving Feedback-please All Traders Read” guidelines at the top of this forum. (granted, the feedback was left prior to the sticky being in place) From the moment I got the feedback, I felt it was undeserved, and feel that the new guidelines for feedback further support my feelings.
I have now left negative feedback for him, with a summarized explanation of the entire situation, along with a link to this thread.
As I really have no idea where else to go with dealing with either of these situations, I am requesting the help of moderators.
I do realize that this is now in the wrong place, and should be moved to the Trading General Discussion, but when it was originally posted, I don’t think that particular area was in place. (and since a mod will be moving it, I hope that I can get some help with the situations at the same time!)
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