Plz Sum 1 Help Me Im being negatized!!!!

[Son of Darknes]

Ok I know this is not a trade thread but i need serious help. I have just recieved a negative trader feedback from a guy i was suppose to do a trade with but didnt because he was impatient to be exact i was doing the trade for my brother who's realms name is dipsetbf21 if anyone wants to verify the truth. So he left me a negative feedback when he never even shipped his figs nor did i because my brother said he had no money to ship. I really just wanna know is there anyway to get rid of this negative feedback i already had a negative feedback before from another idiot i will not put up with another one.


The only reason I was delaying the Trade booster gold is because My brother said he wouldnt have the money till monday thats all we had no intentions of stealing your figs. And I really did trade for a D.P. like i told you

If anyone knows how i can get rid of the neg. feedback please post how your advice or information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx

[Tylk]

Not that your post makes sense as to what actually happened....the guy left negative feedback because you couldn't trade right away?
Those are just the facts of trying to work deals out, and it happens all the time. Negative feedback should only be for issues AFTER the figures are shipped and out of your hands (personally anyways).

I have actually had a trade with BoosterGold long ago, and I would ask him to realize procrastinating, delaying or backing out are just some of the problems with online trades. I am guilty of some of those offences, as are many here and shouldn't really be listed as Negative Feedback. Come on Booster, give the guy a break please? That being said, the other Negative Feedback sounds like you ripped a guy off...*shrug*

My 2 Canadian crappy cents.

[NoGoCat]

No way I know of, but how long was he impatient for? If it is only a week or so I would say he's impatient, but if it is 2 weeks or more, you are in the wrong. If you say you would send on certain date than it should be sent on that date. Add another 3 days to that for some unforseen circumstances (busy at work or what not).

It does not matter if he send or not. If the deal was struck and someone backed out before sending or stringing another person along that person is still in the wrong. These people wasted the other trader's time and while he could have made another trade with the figures. There are flakes out there that has no intention of making the trade, but was just messing with people. Thus the negative feedback for those backing out and string people along.

[BoosterGold]

First off he never said anything about his brother. This trade was supposed to take place 2 weeks ago Saturday. All of a sudden over that 1st weekend he gets a negative feedback from someone else. So I pm him Monday to see what's up and if he sent? He says he didn't and would send that day with DC#. Well later in the week, no DC# so I ask again if he sent. He tells me he'll send next Monday now. So I say alright. Pm him the next tuesday (a weeks later) after hearing nothing. And he says he doesn't have my address; when we exchanged addresses 2 weeks ago. He says I need to give him my address by 4 before the post office closes or the trade is off. I send him my address again shortly after 1:30pm CST. He PMs me today saying I didn't get him my address in time so the trade is off. I think I was the epitome of patience. I lost nothing but people should be advised he's a less than reliable trader. At least lately it seems. I have all the PMs (dates and times) to back all this up so if he wants to play hardball....Bring it.

[Son of Darknes]

Thanks to everyone who gave their advice. Me and BoosterGold just worked out a trade agreement. I do relize this is my mistake so I say sorry to Booster. For now on I will be a more responsible trader and only do trades for myself and no other.

[NoGoCat]

Negative feedback should only be for issues AFTER the figures are shipped and out of your hands (personally anyways).

I would ask him to realize procrastinating, delaying or backing out are just some of the problems with online trades. I am guilty of some of those offences, as are many here and shouldn't really be listed as Negative Feedback.

Is this a phenomenon on this site? People backing out of a deal on other boards (MKRealms, MWRealms, WK) get negative feedbacks. Maybe there's just way too many kids playing and trading on here and don't understand that when a deal is made it is a contract.

So I ask how long should a trader wait for this procrastinator before saying BLANK it he's not going through with the deal? Hmm let see, while he wasted my time for a couple of weeks and backed out, I missed out on a few good trades with the figures. Guess I really shouldn't give him negative feedback..... NOT !!!!!

[Tylk]

Is this a phenomenon on this site? People backing out of a deal on other boards (MKRealms, MWRealms, WK) get negative feedbacks. Maybe there's just way too many kids playing and trading on here and don't understand that when a deal is made it is a contract.

So I ask how long should a trader wait for this procrastinator before saying BLANK it he's not going through with the deal? Hmm let see, while he wasted my time for a couple of weeks and backed out, I missed out on a few good trades with the figures. Guess I really shouldn't give him negative feedback..... NOT !!!!!

I am simply stating a personal opinion. If I have some deal in the works but I don't hear back on some finalized deal, I will hardly wait a week or two in the hopes I get an answer. If you want to wait weeks on end before giving up and saying , that is up to you.

Perhaps I should have re-worded things. I say negative feedback after shipping because i will personally usually have shipped your figures out within a day of exchanging. If someone backs out then, to me, I've already shipped. I guess things have changed here over the years though, as I have only just done my first trade here in about a year. I have had like 35 or so trades here before then and only the odd backing out or procrastinating. Nothing to get worked up over, but perhaps with apparantly so many little kids messing around with you and others, that leaving negative feedback is the way to go. I've just not experienced such a 'maddening' failed deal that I have to do that.

[Artie Deco]

I don't think negative feedback is ever warranted if no figures are ever sent. People change their minds, that's just the way things go. You have to be more forgiving. Leave neutral feedback if you want, but not negative feedback.

[rock810]

Rock is on the case, also putting this thread in the proper place

[Stormwolf1978]

I guess I sit on the fence on this subject. It's maddening when you close in on a deal you really want, you think its set in stone, then the other party backs out. It has happened a couple of times with a person I trade with in person, where he'll hem and haw about the trade for about an hour (wasting my time), and then say "nah, I think I want to hold on to figure x for a while". ARGH!!! But then again, I feel you should be able to change your mind as long as no figures have been exchanged, as it solves a lot of problems. I once watched a kid who was ripping himself off hardcore in a trade, offering up 16+ mid range uniques for a Thor and Iron man combo. Fortunately the Thor kid backed down, because the other trader then realized how one-sided the trade would have been. Sometimes people get tunnel-vision on something they want, and offer up more than they should for it. And I believe if they realize that, they should be able to back down, instead of getting neg feedback from someone who really wanted the trade to go through

[BoosterGold]

Then just back out. Don't keep saying you'll send for a week and a half after you'd set a day to send and then give me a deadline (a week and a half later) to give my address for a SECOND time and then say I missed the deadline making it seem like it's my fault the trade fell through. This has been resolved so no harm. He's agreed to send after all this so if I get the fig no harm no foul. I've also asked Rock to make the feedback Neutral. I may have been harsh at first but I haven't traded here since they implemented the new design. Plus there have been a rash of kids ripping people on other boards too and I am probably a bit jaded lately.

[earinfection]

Well, glad its resolved and heres my point about leaving negatives: BG leaving the - feedback is the catalyst to having this problem resolved. Rock (I hope) was able to change to - to a neutral so now both parties are closer to an understanding. The neutrals are a great way of showing something was not right but have been resolved. One neutral shouldn't scare anybody off. 25 on the other hand.....

No, a negative for a deal that didn't go through is a bit much but I agree that if I was holding onto my super duper rare 'The Key' for a person who was suppose to send first and past up on the only OTHER person in exsistence who was actually LOOKING for 'The Key' should have something (A Neutral) showing this person didn't complete a deal.

I use to think that once adresses are exchanged then its a go but I've had a person or two who shot me there address BEFORE we agreed on the deal. Now my rule of thumb is when sender agrees to the terms of the receiver (And vice versa) then obligations are made. Spending 2 hours at the car lot (Haggling a deal) does not mean you now HAVE to buy a car. Signing the papers (Pming the agreements) does.

Simul-send means at the same time. When the person pms you and say"I just got your figs, I will be mailing yours out tomorrow" really hasn't kept in the spirit of simul-sending. You get your figures so does it warrant a negative? I don't think so BUT everyone SHOULD know that this persons idea of simu-send means he/she will send second. Neutrals are a great way of showing someone might not be a 'bad' trader, just not a good one..(Yeah pal, you simu-send first, ok!)

So, in conclusion, I would like to off quote John Lennon:
"All we are say-in, is give neutrals a chance"