is not following through on an auction grounds for bad trader feedback?

[NerdStereotype]

Well....is it? If someone posts an auction and you win a figure for $X and the auctioneer(?) refuses to sell it to you/ignores PMs, can you give them bad trader feedback for being a jerk?

[Ultimate2099]

I'd PM Rock810 and tell him the specifics. He's in charge of such cases.

[NerdStereotype]

As of now, this is just a hypothetical question. Just asking because I have suspicions that I may have to use this information sometime soon if a certain someone backs out of his auction.

[gasban]

let me guess your talking about the Fire~Angel auction thing

odds are they will end up trying to back out of it

[eshosolas]

Is there a way to leave neutral feedback?

I wouldn't go saying he is a bad trader because you didn't get a unique for a rediculously low price. It's not like you lost anything in the deal.

On the other hand, rules are rules. If someone starts an auction and doesn't follow through they should be banned from starting future auctions.

[DS-00-0, FSD]

Is there a way to leave neutral feedback?

I wouldn't go saying he is a bad trader because you didn't get a unique for a rediculously low price. It's not like you lost anything in the deal.

On the other hand, rules are rules. If someone starts an auction and doesn't follow through they should be banned from starting future auctions.


Yes, you can leave neutral feedback on the new system.

[darius_dax1]

My opinion is that you should leave BAD feedback on anyone backing out on an auction. An auction is somewhat different than a trade in this instance. But that is my opinion.

[charlesx]

Here's my take: a bid is a sort of contract between the bidder and the auctioneer. By posting a low opening bid, the auctioneer is trying to generate interest in his goods and get bid wars going. The risk implied is that if some lucky bidder wins with only an opening bid, then the auctioneer will have to sell for less than what he wanted to. The offset to this is that, on the other hand, there will be items that will sell for lots more than expected due to bid wars.

Therefore, a bidder who places a bid and wins an item is OBLIGATED to pay the price that he offered for the good in question. By the same token, an auctioneer is OBLIGATED to sell at whatever price the final bid was at. Some people back out of this commitment by stating up front that if the bid is too low, they won't sell. This is bad business. If you don't want to sell cheap, don't have cheap minimum bids - or set a reserve price like they do on eBay.

What, you may ask, obligates the bidder and the auctioneer? My answer for that is that square dealing and fair business practices place that onus on both. If those two concepts are not being observed, then there will be trouble for both sides. That's where negative feedback comes in, which should be a final recourse after both sides have failed to find a solution. Bidders and auctioneers who welch on the auction are both liable to receive bad feedback.

[NerdStereotype]

let me guess your talking about the Fire~Angel auction thing

odds are they will end up trying to back out of it

I guess we'll see come September 17th, I'd encourage everyone who bid and got stiffed to post bad trader feedback and keep an eye out for when this guy inevitably comes back under a different name.

[SomaCruz42]

I guess we'll see come September 17th, I'd encourage everyone who bid and got stiffed to post bad trader feedback and keep an eye out for when this guy inevitably comes back under a different name.


That's what I plan on doing.

[raypalmer]

I also agree 100% that you start an auction, you accept the closing price for your auction regardless of how far off of your expectations the price is. How would a seller like if if a buyer backed out because the price was too high? A seller has the opportunity to state his terms at the beginning of the auction. From there, any deviation is breaking the agreement and therefore deserves bad feedback. Not for being a thief, for being being untrustworthy.

[eshosolas]

I still don't think he/she deserves a negative feedback for that. To me thats putting him on the same level as someone who steals your figs.

Sure, if he backs out I would never buy or even bother looking at another of their auctions and he should be banned from holding another one, but it's still not like you lost anything.

I think if anything he deserves neutral feedback to warn future traders he has the tendancy to back out.


I checked out his auction as well and it seems to me from his post that he didn't intend on it being a full-out auction. It seems it just worked itself into one.

[rock810]

I would suggest at the least Neutral feedback, or bad feedback. Please contact me immediately if it becomes retaliatory. Also, please PM me relative information. No one should be posting Auctions and then pulling out because they did not get enough money.

[NerdStereotype]

Well I sent him a PM asking if the auction is still going on, it's as yet unread or at least he denied reciept of the message. Everything else can be found right here in the thread for the alleged auction: http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1735278&posted=1#post1735278

[earinfection]

Was the main page edited? It says sale at the top and at the bottom it say bidding closes on such and such date. I don't see it being an auction. It looks to me that on such and such date this person is going to look at the highest offers and decide if they are "serious" or not.

Besides, if this person 'agrees' to sell them he can always come back with an outrageous 'handling' fee since its in no way spelled out how much s&h will be (how many people bid on that penny item on EBAY without seeing if shipping and handling will or will not be combined?).


Had it been disclosed as an actual auction then I agree seller has an obligation to sell at the price stated. A bad trader (Or neutral since in fact nobody has lost anything except time on it) wouldn't be out of the question. Sorry, I just read too much vagueness in this one.


Anyway, I hope it does work out for everyone involved

Ear