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HollywoodGhost
10/15/2005, 03:39
I bring this up now because I heard a terrible rumor.
Appearently the general consensus was that he sucked and most people hated him?
I'd just like to hear what your thoughts were on his stuff. Was it good x writting? was it to out there?

Darth Sabre
10/15/2005, 04:10
He made some changes that I didn't agree with (like secondary mutations) but over all, I find his X-Men stuff to have been the best stuff not put out by Joss Whedon over the last 12 years.

His Magneto/Xorn thing was incredible, and got me back into reading the X-Men.

HollywoodGhost
10/15/2005, 07:25
His last arc was dissapointing. I thought that secondary mutations was a cool way to do something new with a character, in comic books you cant kill people and you cant really change them to much, he found a way to change people without retro coning anything or alternate dimensioning anything. I thought it was cool.

I think that astonishing x-men is way to hokey and wink wink nod nod to the fans, which i dont like.

MagicMaster
10/16/2005, 21:47
I've been reading comics for about 10 years now. I find Morrison's run on New X-men to be the greatest comic story ever told. His character development and definition are amazing. His high concept technique works incredibly with his mundane environments and atmospheres. IMO, his last arch was amazing. It created a completely different picture of the Phoenix than anything any other writer had done with the character. In those last few pages he transformed Jean from a Sanctimonious, unrelateble Cosmic Powerhouse into a compassionate, loving wife, devoted to the happiness of her husband and loved-ones. To me, Grant Morrison's New X-Men is the guide stick that separates Comic Books from Comic Literature.

Best MARVEL Quote Ever:

Emma Frost: But I love children...

Five-In-One: If you love them so much, then why do you let them die all the time, you silly old woman?


Well, that's my opinion anyway...

Citizen V
10/16/2005, 22:52
I personally did not like it,Emma and Scott is a bad combination.What he did to Uncanny made me stop reading Marvel,and import only DC.

Gator
10/17/2005, 00:00
Meh, I found his XMen run to have a lot of gratuitous blood and gore (Mini Sentinels and the hopped up thugs) and his characterizations of the X-Men didn't ring true to me. I loved his JLA run though.

My prevailing theory is that Morrison is a great creator/writer who needs to be managed editorially when he's working in a universe with years of continuity. That type of editorial management exists at DC but does not in Quesada land.

CitizenBen
10/17/2005, 00:21
My 2 cents...
I loved it. I picked it up all in Trade after being intrigued while glancing through "E is for Extinction". I too loved his JLA run and was a little worried that his X-Men run would be the sort of cataclysmic train ride that JLA was (I mean that as the highest of compliments). His X-Men run to me was, in my humble opinion, the best X-Men stuff since early Claremont and Byrne. I felt he took every wild concept out there and threw it against the wall, and to me IT ALL stuck. A wild, wild fun ride, to me anyways...

Darth Sabre
10/19/2005, 14:55
His X-Men run to me was, in my humble opinion, the best X-Men stuff since early Claremont and Byrne. I felt he took every wild concept out there and threw it against the wall, and to me IT ALL stuck. A wild, wild fun ride, to me anyways...

That's exactly how I view it.

Ignatz_Mouse
10/19/2005, 15:40
I liked it a lot, although the last couple of arcs were waeker. I got what he was trying to do, but it rang false. He tried to make Magneto ridiculous and deflate his reputation some.

Sublime was an interestign idea for a character, but how he related to the last arc was... eh.


But the early stuff was amazing. Caasandra Nova, the U-Men, the Imperial Guard in full force, Assault on Weapon X-- all great.

Ignatz_Mouse
10/19/2005, 15:41
Oh, and outing the Mutants and making the school public was a brilliant move, and made perfect sense as the next step of X-Men development.

Cole Burns
11/07/2005, 15:01
Sometimes it thrilled me and other times I had to close the book it made me so mad. But upon reflection it was a great run. I thought it was hindered by some art problems and I still can't find any clues that Xorn was Magneto right from the start. Morrison promised that there were clues right from his first appearance. If someone could explain it to me that would be great.

I thought it was the best run that a stale franchise could hope for. Got things moving again. Joss’ run so far has been a little disappointing. Loved the first arc. But the Holodeck, I mean Danger Room goes bad thing licks balls. And this coming from one of the most rabid Joss fans out there.

Off Topic: Go see Serenity.

lusiphur
11/08/2005, 04:09
Meh, I found his XMen run to have a lot of gratuitous blood and gore (Mini Sentinels and the hopped up thugs) and his characterizations of the X-Men didn't ring true to me. I loved his JLA run though.

My prevailing theory is that Morrison is a great creator/writer who needs to be managed editorially when he's working in a universe with years of continuity. That type of editorial management exists at DC but does not in Quesada land.

I agree. The storeis were good except they tried to re create characters and not in an organic fasion. One minute they are one way and the next minute they are another. The Ultimate Universe was designed for that. I hate when a writer come in and supplants one established character with another, changing who that character is. Its like wanting to use a different character but having to use the same look.

The stories that are coming out now seem to be trying to fix things. Trying to get back to the way things were. Having the characters be who they were. I can understand trying to breathe new life into things, but there isnt any reason to change things completely.

BYC
11/08/2005, 04:32
I hated his X-Men stuff.
I loved his JLA stuff.

I barely read any of his X-stuff though, since I didn't like the 2-3 issues I read, so I ignored the rest.

I followed the entire JLA run. I stopped around Queen of Fables (which was lame, imo), which I believe was the first arc without him. Right after Tower of Babel I believe.

Cole Burns
11/08/2005, 13:53
I hated his X-Men stuff.

I followed the entire JLA run. I stopped around Queen of Fables (which was lame, imo), which I believe was the first arc without him. Right after Tower of Babel I believe.

Tower of Babel wasn't Morrison. Mark Waid did it.

But I agree, Morrison's JLA run was better than his X-men.

zakiszak
11/18/2005, 19:17
It was a mixed run, as grant so often is, but overall it just really woke up a stagnant franchise. Grant focused heavily on questioning our basic assumptions on long time characters, having them act out and grow in unexpected ways. Same with his take on mutant kind, he really did new things with mutant culture (which have all just been erased post-house of M0.

However, it was still spazz ### lunatic grant morrison, so there were problems. At times the story and characters all stepped to the side while he displayed his big ideas and freaky characters (particularly in his weapon X project), and the final 1/3 really lacked the same inspiration of the first 2/3. The man's a revolutionary, which is a great thing for relaunching a title, but someetimes the revolution gets out of control.

I love New X-men, got me interested in a franchise I had given up on.