Is this deserving of a 'Bad Trader' Rating?

[fenway]

Two traders - Trader A and Trader B

Trader A is interested in a Unique that typically sells for about 5-10 dollars, and posts a list on the Trader board

Trader B contacts Trader A, and suggests a trade - a LE from Clobberin Time that is typically about 15 - 20 dollars for his Unique.

Trader A accepts - he never plays the boxed LE - even though it is worth more, he would rather have the Unique - he intends to play that piece.

The trade is struck - The Unique arrives to Trader A - pretty good overall - good feedback is left.

Trader B contacts Trader A and says 'The dial is a little dirty - do you have another?'. Trader A does not, but asks if Trader B wants to exchange back.

Trader B says, "I wanted the piece in the first place, so trading back would be pointless" (understandable) "I am going to have to leave you bad feedback"

Trader A PM's back, and offers to just send back the Unique "Keep the LE I sent, and I will re-send back the Unique - Keep both pieces, and I wil pay postage twice - I just want to maintain my good trader rating"

Trader B refuses and leaves a bad rating

Is trader A a bad trader?

In defense of Trader B's position, a figure was sent that he was unsatisfied with, and there was(will be) a period of three weeks where he will have been without his Unique to try and re-trade for something.

In trader A's defense, he was willing to send back the figure, leaving him with nothing and trader B with two figures, just to maintain the trader rating.

If you respond, please don't do so angrily - I am not interested in being mean to either party - I am just interested in gauging the response of others who are not involved, and have no axe to grind - like Trader A and Trader B. I am hoping I presented this fairly, and am prepared for every response to disagree with my feeling, I just hope everyone does so sort of, well, 'clinically'.

Thanks for the time and response.

[torontcollectr]

Our 2 cents.

First off negative was not warranted. The pieces were exchanged in a timely manner, and each received what they were supposed to.

As the dial was "dirty or smudged" unplayable? Should the trader sending have known? The unsatisfied trader at worst would leave a neutral. Especially as reparations was offered (and was more than reasonable- in our opinion).

If the piece was not perfect and he wanted a trade back ( with the other party paying a penalty) what more can " reasonably" be expected?

We would not want to deal with such an unreasonable trader.

[Granite Moose]

Fairly new to trading on the boards, but have bought many figures from eBay and here's my opinion.
Trader A does not deserve a Bad Trader rating. He sent in good faith and offered more than enough to compensate Trader B.
Trader B, if unhappy with the condition of the LE, should have traded back. If he wants the LE that he received, even with the dirty dial, then he must leave Neutral feedback at worst - - although I don't think even that is warranted in this case.
If I were Trader B and I received a dirty dial (and how dirty was it? Some dials are dirty directly from WizKids) and I didn't want it then trading back would have been the way to go. If you're willing to keep the LE, then you're willing to accept the trade.
Not sure which one you are (though I suspect it is Trader A), but it's an undeserved Bad Trader rating for Trader A in my opinion.

[fenway]

Thanks to you both - looking still for more input

Also to add - Trader B is a collector as well as player, so he wants pieces to be in mint condition, which Trader A (incorrectly, and as a result, misleadingly) claimed of the LE.

Again, hope this is fair, and again, thanks for input - I appreciate hearing how others interpret this! :)

[pbdeberry]

no the guy is just being a D I C K

[K-Ness]

Fenway, PM me the details of the trade. Negative is COMPLETELY unwarranted at this point. I would like to review the specifics of this dealing and Rock810 and I can make th adjustments as need be. It sounds like the trader who left negative is just wanting to mess up people's feedback ratings, and I for one, will not allow that to happen.

[raypalmer]

If you are going to trade here, you need to accept one simple fact: Mistakes Happen

Figs can get broken in shipping, figures can get lost in shipping, people can have something cause them to ship late, people can miss flaws on figures...the list could go on and on.

It's how the person you're trading with handles the problem which should determine the feedback they receive.

If the other trader is willing to fix the situation, and does just that they absolutely 100% deserve positive feedback. In this case, they were willing to take a complete loss with double shipping to fix the problem. The negative feedback left was totally unwarranted, in my opinion.

[Tylk]

My only question would be how badly damaged the dial was. I will say that is would be unfair if Trader A had said it was in 'mint' condition (MIB?) and it was far from that.

I would leave as Trader B, neutral feeback....

BUT...

in light of Trader A offering to send back his figure free of charge also, I think I would have to give Trader A a positive feedback. In order to save face and be an upstanding guy, he sends back the figure and pays shipping on it? Misleading the MIB thing or not, definately a GRADE A trader as honesty and morality counts for everything.

He is a better man than I if I was in his shoes I'm afraid, and I think I'm a pretty good and fair trader. I don't think I'd have sent back that figure.

[BudPalmer]

I understand that some people are more particular than others when it comes to the condition of a figure. I have a friend who is always begging me to check my extras for flyers that stick in/on the flight base without falling off. I had a trade not go through due to there being shading on the dial (He was nervious about the fig so I mailed it to him in good faith so he could appraise it). In my opinion no negative feedback was needed in this situation. As someone has already stated if the trader was willing to keep the LE, the trade was completed.

[TMNT99]

I've done a lot of trades. Bad feedback is not warranted.

The complainier seems to be want one of these two solutions:
A) Go back in time and make this trade perfect

B) Go back in time and not trade at all.

These are unfair expectations. The offending trader has been more than gracious in trying to rectify the situation. With all the reparations being willing to be made, the only thing that is lost is time.