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DTM
04/15/2006, 15:46
So, our next film, Classic or Crud, Hit or Miss, what say you ALL?

Our next film open for discussion, and ultimately an Overall RATING by you all:

X-MEN
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Let the discussions flow. Likes, dislikes, classic film or overhyped trash, and DONT FORGET to place an Overall Rating when youre done.

Its easy, just give a Rating from 1 (Jaws 4:The Revenge) to 10 (Jaws), and thats it. Course I'd love to have you all give reasons as to why you feel it deserves this Overall Rating, and more than encourage discussions with us all about them.

So, what say you all?

Next Film: ??????

EmperorNorton
04/15/2006, 16:13
I really liked it when I first saw it, but rewatching it wasn't so great.

7.5 seems to be a fair score.

DTM
04/15/2006, 17:32
I really liked this film actually, and thought Bryan Singer did a great job in taking an entire team of comic book characters, and placing them in the real world, and making them look and feel Real. Sure comic book movies have been done before this, but I dont believe with nearly as many characters (both heroes and villains), and while of course you couldnt do full backgrounds on each and every one of them, this movie did a great job in handling them all, and making even the most beginner X-Fan feel that they know whats going on, and theyre not lost on any of this.

You didnt need to be a die hard X-Men fan to love or even get this film, and most of the people I went with didnt know much about anything of the X-Verse, they all came away from this and enjoyed this film very much. Overall, one of the few critisms I have for this movie is that it was too short, I wanted to see More, and that to me isnt that bad a thing. Great characters (handled very well I might add, even if Jean looked about 15 years older than Scott), great effects, great story, and simply put, a great movie in my opinion.


X-MEN - 8.50 (really bordering on 8.75 for me)

St-Dumas
04/15/2006, 18:59
The first X-Men movie was great because it set up characters and setting so well. Even non X-fans understood alot of the important players in the story (Magneto, Wolverine, Rogue, etc.). They also showed us some cool fight scenes and set us up for good sequels. All they needed was more mutants and more fights.

I'll give this one an 8.25.

Wyldstaar
04/15/2006, 22:16
X-Men made an excellent ballance between the classic comic book characters the fans love, and non-fanboy sensibilities. The heartwrenching opening in Poland still causes me to well up a bit.

8 of 10

Maniac_nmt
04/16/2006, 22:51
Good super hero action, but not the greatest.

7.7/10

ReZourceman
04/17/2006, 08:01
Ah, X-men. Theres not much to say but this is such a great movie. It firmly concreted Marvels movie universe, and if this flopped I think oother films would be different. The fight scenes were great and it has some very memorable moments...

Wolverine : "Its me"
Cyclops : "Prove it..."
Wolverine : ".....You're a ####" :cheeky:


Classic.


ReZ rating - 8.25

Inbetweener
04/17/2006, 12:28
X-Men is a successful superhero movie that I didn't even bother to see in the theaters...because I'm not a huge fan of the characters to begin with. I watched on Christmas Eve after it came out because I got it on DVD as a gift...it was the first DVD I ever owned. Anyway, the movie's first few minutes really sucked me in... the scene with Magneto as a child told me that this movie meant to be taken seriously. It was very well done...Singer has a way of making every character in his movies strong and exciting regardless of their screen time, so he was custom made for this kind of movie. I'm one of the people who believes the second one is better (and one of the best superhero movies of all) but this one is still a very memorable classic. If it wasn't for the line "do you know what happens to a toad when it is struck by lightning?" it might have earned a 9.

Rating: 8.5

DTM
04/17/2006, 14:37
Current HCR Member Rating:

X-MEN: 8.11 / 10

(7 Members Rating)

coyotejack
04/17/2006, 15:13
X-Men is a toughie for me. So many things were perfect, so many things were not.

A few things that stand out to me:

Hugh Jackman as Wolvie: perfect. He really made Wolvie come to life.

Halle Berry as Storm: horrible. She's more hammy playing Storm than the Voice Actor that does Storm's voice in the old X-Men cartoon.

Wolvie/Rogue relationship: excellent. Being an "old-school" X-Men fan, I'd have preferred Kitty but Rogue made a nice surrogate for Wolvie to latch on to.

Wolvie/Cyclops interaction: perfect. Just the way it should be...wondering when they will just start going at it on the school grounds.

Bad Guy selection: Very nice. Even with the tweaking of Toad's abilities the line-up was pretty classic.

Bad Guy's plot: Not so good. Sorry but Magneto's plan sounded more like a bad 50's Joker plot.

All in all it was a lot of fun and was full of nuggets of joy and some just plain nuggets...

A nice solid 7.75/10.

ReZourceman
04/18/2006, 17:59
Bump to get exposure.

DTM
04/19/2006, 02:54
Current HCR Member Rating:

X-MEN - 8.06 / 10

Gargantua
04/19/2006, 21:42
A good superhero movie. It respected the characters. The plot was good, not too dumbed-down, not too far-fetched (given the subject matter in the first place). Performances ranged from very good (Patrick Stewart, Hugh Jackman, Ian McKellan) to a bit wooden (Halle Berry, Famake Jansen, the guy who played Cyclops whose name escapes me). And you can't go wrong with Rebecca Romjin-Stamos in nothing but body paint.

The average so far seems to pretty well sum it up for me. About 7.5 of 10.

GreenLantrn128
04/27/2006, 17:18
Ah, X-men. Theres not much to say but this is such a great movie. It firmly concreted Marvels movie universe, and if this flopped I think oother films would be different. The fight scenes were great and it has some very memorable moments...

Wolverine : "Its me"
Cyclops : "Prove it..."
Wolverine : ".....You're a ####" :cheeky:


Classic.


ReZ rating - 8.25

LOL
that was the best quote in the whole movie. I couldn't believe he even said that.

As for me, I'll say an 8.5


I also thought it was funny when wolverine flipped off someone with his middle claw and cyclops started laughing

olcottr
05/11/2006, 13:15
Before the second one came out, I would have given it a 9.0
After I saw what they were really capable of, an 8.0
so, 8.0

Great dialogue between Wolverine and Cyclops. :)

Drunky
08/09/2006, 20:35
13th movie rating today and the last one 'till tomorrow ... And it's not gonna be a good one. I don't care if the movie was meant to be accessible to as many people as possible, THESE ARE NOT MY MUTANTS! That's a Wolverine ? Where's the fury? Where's the wild side of the character? Don't tell me Hugh Jackman can act, he's a mess. Storm? Jeeez, she's one of my favorite female character, and they took Halle Berry to act her :disappoin? Sure the girl's a hottie, but she's no actress. Cyclops? A stupid (and do I have to say that putting Cyke and Storm in the same team is pure nonsense ? They're both leaders, for God's sake!). Sabretooth? He may be the most ridiculous character of the movie (I still don't figure out how they could give him such a miserable look). And Mags ... He may not be my favorite villain mutant, he should still deserve much more than a puny old man to represent him. And Rogue ... AAAARGH ... The fiery southerner reduced to a helpless little girl ? I know her story all right, but I wanted to see the adult Rogue, the one torn apart by the fact that she has so much love to give and still couldn't do it because of her cursed mutant power, but still keeps a happy face and bravado whatever happens ... And I don't even wanna talk about the other characters. I won't talk either about the direction (Brian Synger made ONE good movie, and I bet he won't do another one). I know that most people don't agree with the way I see things, but the movie was a real disappointment to me. That's a 0/10 for me.

DTM
08/10/2006, 01:25
13th movie rating today and the last one 'till tomorrow ... And it's not gonna be a good one. I don't care if the movie was meant to be accessible to as many people as possible, THESE ARE NOT MY MUTANTS! That's a Wolverine ? Where's the fury? Where's the wild side of the character? Don't tell me Hugh Jackman can act, he's a mess. Storm? Jeeez, she's one of my favorite female character, and they took Halle Berry to act her :disappoin? Sure the girl's a hottie, but she's no actress. Cyclops? A stupid (and do I have to say that putting Cyke and Storm in the same team is pure nonsense ? They're both leaders, for God's sake!). Sabretooth? He may be the most ridiculous character of the movie (I still don't figure out how they could give him such a miserable look). And Mags ... He may not be my favorite villain mutant, he should still deserve much more than a puny old man to represent him. And Rogue ... AAAARGH ... The fiery southerner reduced to a helpless little girl ? I know her story all right, but I wanted to see the adult Rogue, the one torn apart by the fact that she has so much love to give and still couldn't do it because of her cursed mutant power, but still keeps a happy face and bravado whatever happens ... And I don't even wanna talk about the other characters. I won't talk either about the direction (Brian Synger made ONE good movie, and I bet he won't do another one). I know that most people don't agree with the way I see things, but the movie was a real disappointment to me. That's a 0/10 for me.


First off, thanks so much for getting so into these Rate The Movies threads, and jumping into to each and every one you felt the need to rate. Well done, and I welcome anyone else here to do the same.....

.....that said, YOURE A CRAZY NUTBAG! Uh...I mean.... :) :laugh:

Youre giving X-Men a 0 (which gets raised to a 1 by the way, our minimum rating here) Even giving it a 1, youre saying this is the worst piece of filth ever put on film in the History of moviemaking (or in the close range of), I couldnt possibly disagree with you more.

This film has Zero value, or any kind, whatsoever? The effects, the music, the costumes, the story, its all in the realm of the worst you have Ever Seen? Really?

the itsy bit
08/10/2006, 05:52
when I saw the opening scene of X-men I knew it would be good, a serious start off point to the movie(s).

an 8.5/10 because I liked the second movie better.

anybody who gives it a 0/10 should not be taken seriously is all I can say...

DTM
08/10/2006, 13:24
Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, their own review and rating, so while I strongly disagree with this one getting a Zero, it is Drunkys right to give it anything he wishes (raised to a 1, as mentioned before) Heck, Ive had to count people giving Titanic a 1 just because it knocked Star Wars from the top grossing movie of all time list, and someone gave Batman a -44 (which again was raised to a 1) :)

Again, giving something a 1 means it has No value, of any kind, whatsoever, and thats harsh on any movie, let alone one such as this one.

Drunky
08/28/2006, 16:03
Sorry, late answer, I got off this thread for a while (sorry DTM, I'll be rating more of them these next days, without bumping the threads as I did the first time - BTW I don't have no problem with my 0 turning into a 1, I just wanted to give it the worst rating possible, so if 1 is, let it be 1 :) ). To the itsy bit, don't take me seriously if you wish, I just gave my opinion here; the fact is, when I really like a movie, I'm ready to watch it lots of times, and that's why I purchase 'em on DVD. X-Men (as I already said) was a great disappointment to me, and I don't want to watch it ever again, even just for fun. That's why I gave it a 0, a rating that fits the movies I don't even want to watch the slightest part ever. If you don't agree with me, fine, I have no problem with that, but I don't see why I shouldn't be taken seriously because of that ... (although, you're kinda right, I'm not the kinda guy that should ever been taken seriously :p). That being said, I hope you won't hold a grudge against me because of this, and I personnaly don't have anything against you. Peace and love is my way :).

Rokk_Krinn
08/28/2006, 18:35
This film has Zero value, or any kind, whatsoever? The effects, the music, the costumes, the story, its all in the realm of the worst you have Ever Seen? Really?

I don't know if you really want to use the music as a possible arguement. :) Everytime the overly-melodramatic (I know, that's redundant but it seems right here) music kicked-in at the theater, I know I was blushing with embarrassment for dragging my then-current-girlfriend to the film. The music just screamed, "It's true. Comic fans are geeks!" to me. *shrugs* Maybe I just need to be more in-tune with my hobbies and not so ashamed of them. ;)

Drunky
08/28/2006, 19:08
DTM (sorry, I answered the itsy bit's post more than yours, but I'll explain my view :)): for the music, errr, I don't even recall it, so it means that it was really bad to me (don't worry, I have weird tastes in music too, as weird as my movies' tastes :p (good point BTW Rokk_Krinn, and I don't want to imply that you have such weird tastes as mine by saying it, no offense meant ;))); the effects were nice, but nothing that impress me that much; the costumes, well I love my superheroes in tights (yeah that would be ridiculous in a movie with real people but that's the way I see superheroes :p); the story ... well, maybe not that bad (apart from the fact I didn't like the way they pictured the characters, but that's my personal view, and it's highly questionable of course), but not good enough to impress me either, and with all the other things I didn't like in the movie, not enough to make it a valuable movie to me. So, it's surely not the worst movie I've ever watched (there's a lot more french movies that are worse than X-Men :p), but still (as I already said) one I don't wanna watch ever again.

DTM
08/29/2006, 01:01
DTM (sorry, I answered the itsy bit's post more than yours, but I'll explain my view :)): for the music, errr, I don't even recall it, so it means that it was really bad to me (don't worry, I have weird tastes in music too, as weird as my movies' tastes :p (good point BTW Rokk_Krinn, and I don't want to imply that you have such weird tastes as mine by saying it, no offense meant ;))); the effects were nice, but nothing that impress me that much; the costumes, well I love my superheroes in tights (yeah that would be ridiculous in a movie with real people but that's the way I see superheroes :p); the story ... well, maybe not that bad (apart from the fact I didn't like the way they pictured the characters, but that's my personal view, and it's highly questionable of course), but not good enough to impress me either, and with all the other things I didn't like in the movie, not enough to make it a valuable movie to me. So, it's surely not the worst movie I've ever watched (there's a lot more french movies that are worse than X-Men :p), but still (as I already said) one I don't wanna watch ever again.


Hey D, dont worry about bumping my older RTM threads, go nuts, that goes for all of us here. The more ratings, the better, I say.

As for your mini review of X-Men above, while I see you didnt love it, I dont see you HATING it either. You use words like "the effects were nice", "the story wasnt that bad", "its surely not the worst movie youve ever seen" That being said, you gave it a 0.....a.Zero.....Nada.....Nothing.

Theres absolutely ZERO good things about this movie at all, its one you absolutely HATED, one of the worst youve EVER seen, with nothing of even the tiniest value at all......thats what a 0 Rating is.

Of course youre entitled to your rating, and itll stick (as a 1 as mentioned before), but to rate it SO LOW, to the complete bottom of the movie barrel, Im sorry but as I said before, I just couldnt disagree more here.

DTM
08/29/2006, 01:03
I don't know if you really want to use the music as a possible arguement. :) Everytime the overly-melodramatic (I know, that's redundant but it seems right here) music kicked-in at the theater, I know I was blushing with embarrassment for dragging my then-current-girlfriend to the film. The music just screamed, "It's true. Comic fans are geeks!" to me. *shrugs* Maybe I just need to be more in-tune with my hobbies and not so ashamed of them. ;)


Actually I kinda liked the music here (Michael Kamen I believe) And even if I didnt, again, to rate it a 0 would be its the worst series of musical notes ever put to a page (in that persons opinion of course), and I hardly think that was the case here with this score.

Drunky
08/29/2006, 05:41
DTM, it's just that as I have said previously, since I don't wanna watch it ever again it deserves the lowest rating for me (I gave BTTF and Shrek more than 0 because I could watch 'em again, whereas I'm allergic to the movie X-Men); effects were nice, but the fact is I don't really care about special effects (meaning I don't care that the effects suck if the movie pleases me - "Zu, Warriors from the magic mountain" being an excellent example of this :p), that doesn't influence so much my rating (except if they really impressed me, which wasn't the case here). Story wasn't that bad, but it was not that good either (I just feel completely indifferent about it). And it's surely not the worst movie ever, but it doesn't make it a good one (to me of course). My rating reflects my huge disappointment, it's highly subjective and questionable, but that's the way I see it. We disagree about this, but we stay cool, so everything's fine :grin:.
If you don't want to include my rating in the total score of the movie because you find it to be an exagerate one (or whatever reason which I'm sure would be reasonable), I have no problem with that, that's your thread after all, so you're the boss here :). I'm happy enough to have been able to give my opinion about this, as crazy as said opinion was :p.
Funny thing is that ones of the longest posts I ever made on HCR are about a movie I hate, so I guess I truly am a crazy nutbag ;) :laugh:.

P.S.: The problem with bumping your old threads is that I made it too much in a single evening, therefore hijacking the TV and Movies forum, which granted me a PM warning (promise I won't do it again), sorry for the annoyance people :o. Still, I'll keep on rating the movies I watched, I like it.

the itsy bit
08/29/2006, 05:55
Sorry, late answer, I got off this thread for a while (sorry DTM, I'll be rating more of them these next days, without bumping the threads as I did the first time - BTW I don't have no problem with my 0 turning into a 1, I just wanted to give it the worst rating possible, so if 1 is, let it be 1 :) ). To the itsy bit, don't take me seriously if you wish, I just gave my opinion here; the fact is, when I really like a movie, I'm ready to watch it lots of times, and that's why I purchase 'em on DVD. X-Men (as I already said) was a great disappointment to me, and I don't want to watch it ever again, even just for fun. That's why I gave it a 0, a rating that fits the movies I don't even want to watch the slightest part ever. If you don't agree with me, fine, I have no problem with that, but I don't see why I shouldn't be taken seriously because of that ... (although, you're kinda right, I'm not the kinda guy that should ever been taken seriously :p). That being said, I hope you won't hold a grudge against me because of this, and I personnaly don't have anything against you. Peace and love is my way :).

I don't hold a grudge to you.;)
I can understand if you don't love a movie like the X-men for taking liberties on the characters, but when you give a movie a 1 rating (or a 0) like DTM said then you are HATING it and would rather gauge out your eyes then seeing it ever again.

disliking a movie would still be like giving it a 3,4,5 rating depending on ANYTHING likeable.

Drunky
08/29/2006, 06:12
I don't hold a grudge to you.;)
I can understand if you don't love a movie like the X-men for taking liberties on the characters, but when you give a movie a 1 rating (or a 0) like DTM said then you are HATING it and would rather gauge out your eyes then seeing it ever again.

disliking a movie would still be like giving it a 3,4,5 rating depending on ANYTHING likeable.
Cool :grin:. Then to be clearer (and shorter) than my previous posts were :p, I really hate it.

DTM
08/29/2006, 13:26
Sooooo, now you really hate it eh? Well, then I guess that deserves a 0 (1) from you then. :)

Oh and of course Ill count it, whether I agree with these ratings or not (and rest assured this is one of the ratings I couldnt agree less with), they all still count. Heck, Titanic got a 1 because it knocked Star Wars out of the top money making spot, and Batman once got a -44 (which was raised to a 1).

I hardly believe any of these films deserves a 1, (which keep in mind is the lowerest score you could give a movie, a piece of trash, utter garbage in every way, nothing worthy in the least at all) but this isnt just for me to rate, its for us all, so those ratings and yours do stick.

DTM
08/29/2006, 13:28
I don't hold a grudge to you.;)
I can understand if you don't love a movie like the X-men for taking liberties on the characters, but when you give a movie a 1 rating (or a 0) like DTM said then you are HATING it and would rather gauge out your eyes then seeing it ever again.

disliking a movie would still be like giving it a 3,4,5 rating depending on ANYTHING likeable.


I very much agree with this right here. Heck, Ive seen Clockwork Orange twice in my life, 10 years apart, and I severely disliked it both times. I never want to see it again....and I gave it a 3.25 because while I strongly disliked it, I do recognize it had some, even alittle, good qualities that take it away from being a 1.

But hey, to each their own really.

Drunky
08/29/2006, 13:30
OK cool :). I have a lot to catch up (I just checked the threads), but there are many movies that I haven't seen (like the current one), and I'm glad to see the Thing is there :grin:. See you soon on the other rating threads ;).

EDIT : just saw your previous post, we strongly disagree on Clockwork Orange too then :p.

DTM
08/29/2006, 13:42
HA, well at least we agree on Carpenters The Thing then. :)

Prof. Aragorn
03/17/2007, 18:08
The movie was okay - not a big fan of X-films.

7.9 out of ten

Manchine
07/03/2007, 17:05
Got to give it an

8 out of 10

Pashmina
07/03/2007, 20:37
8/10

My least favourite of the series, but it did revive the superhero genre, and did the material justice.

Loved it as a child.

deadalus13
08/26/2007, 23:14
Before the second one came out, I would have given it a 9.0
After I saw what they were really capable of, an 8.0
so, 8.0

Great dialogue between Wolverine and Cyclops. :)

I agree with this completely. X-men gets an 8 from me.

Magnito
08/27/2007, 20:54
I didn't rate this one yet, eh.
It was good. Liked the second one better though. This one gets an 8

Rokk_Krinn
08/27/2007, 21:05
Hmm...odd; I know I had posted on this film but hadn't realized I never gave it a rating. Well, between what I posted here and on the other X-Men movie threads, I think I've pretty much summed up my feelings: it was a tad too cornball to the point where it was an embarrassment and I felt it just made us nerds look even worse. :) It probably would have helped if I felt Cyke had been treated better during the trilogy (the first and third movie he's just there as someone who's there to "stand in Wolverine and Jean's way" which bugs me to no end; at least he got to "take the shot" and save the day in the first one).

Oddly, I rather wish they had kept Toad around for the sequels but that's just because Ray Parks had fun with the role and it showed. Unfortunately counteracting that was, oh, pretty much any acting done by Berry.

Score: 3.5

DTM
08/28/2007, 00:51
Sheesh bud, what do you get bonus rep points for handing out 3.5s? :)

As for this movie being so cornball it makes the fans of the X-men comics look nerdy, I went to see this with a big group, me being the only real comic collector, and they all Loved it. My sister and her husband, who also dont collect, loved it as well, and they couldnt wait for X2 to come out.

W.I.T
01/07/2010, 14:31
I took my kid brother (he's 24 now) to see this movie in the theatre when it was first released. It was a very good beginning movie for the new era of Marvel movies. (super hero movies in general) Solid performances. Good action scenes. Decent special effects. All told, a very good movie.

8.5/10

labria4
07/06/2011, 08:44
I thought this movie was great. Jackman as Wolverine was spot on but I didn't like the look of Sabretooth.

7.5/10