View Full Version : HCR Rates The Movies #37: STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE
So, our next film, Classic or Crud, Hit or Miss, what say you ALL?
Our next film open for discussion, and ultimately an Overall RATING by you all:
STAR TREK:
THE MOTION PICTURE
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Let the discussions flow. Likes, dislikes, classic film or overhyped trash, and DONT FORGET to place an Overall Rating when youre done.
Its easy, just give a Rating from 1 (Jaws 4:The Revenge) to 10 (Jaws), and thats it. Course I'd love to have you all give reasons as to why you feel it deserves this Overall Rating, and more than encourage discussions with us all about them.
So, what say you all?
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coyotejack
04/19/2006, 14:56
Star Trek: The Motionless Picture...at least that's what my friends and I called it. We were more Star Wars fans than Star Trek but still enjoyed the movie...when something actually happened in it. heh heh
It did, however, mark the "comeback" of Star Trek so that's significant as well!
I give it a 6/10. (It may have gone higher if it was 45 minutes shorter...)
We called it "Star Trek:The Motion Sickness." Once you got past the "Wow, the cast of Trek is back," you had to deal with the whole Verger mess. 20 Years and that the best plot Universal came up with? Blech! 5.5 and I'm being generious.
hmmmm, well I think Ill agree for the most part with those posted already, though I think Ill be a bit kinder in the end with the actual score. as cool as it was to see Kirk, Spock and the gang on the big screen, and lets not forget the now CLASSIC Star Trek theme created by Jerry Goldsmith which is popular and well known even today. The effects were quite good for the time as well. Sure maybe not ILM, but heck ILM just started when this film was made. Unfortunately, like those posted so far, I didnt find this film (which was a bit too long in my opinion) to be overly exciting and had more than its share of slow (even boring) bits then scenes that had you on the edge of your seat.
Great music, cool effects and the classic ST cast on film, but I overall it really didnt do anything for me in the end. As they used to say on the USA Network "even numbered Trek films dont s u c k" and unfortunately 1 is definately odd"
Not horrible, not nothing special either, so Ill give it a 6.75 / 10.
Wyldstaar
04/19/2006, 17:30
When I can't get to sleep at night, I either watch THX-1138 or Star Trek: TMP. They put me out in less than five minutes usually. Nobodys DOES anything in this entire movie except Spock when he jets out to mind meld with V'ger, and even that is boring. The entire film is just the Enterprise and her crew moving along a slow and monotonous path.
Not only did this film begin the long even/odd traditon of good/bad Trek films, but it also began the tradition of screwing Chekov over in every movie.
3
hail_eris
04/19/2006, 18:05
Well, you can't start a series at "II", so I'll give this some points as the film that begat Wrath of Khan. Ah, now *that* was a movie. "KHAAAAN!" Oh, wait. We're talking about the first one. Feh. I'll give it a 6.5, only because that end scene with V'ger and the Moondragon-looking bald woman has been retconned into being the possible origin of the Borg. And the Borg are cool. So 6.5 for me.
logansixx
04/19/2006, 18:20
Keeping in mind that this was supposed to be an episode of of the second Star Trek series, which was canned in favor of making Star Trek into a film (thanks Nimoy), it is merly ok. As has been mentioned, it gets more points for being the return of Trek than for actually being a good movie. I will admit that every now and then I enjoy watching it but definitely not a good movie or even a good Star Trek movie.
As a film: 5 out of 10
As a Star Trek film: 2 out of 10
Gargantua
04/19/2006, 22:48
Far from the best Star Trek movie. Aside from the cultural significance of beginning the resurgence of the Star Trek franchise, and as DTM mentioned, Jerry Goldsmith's score (loved the Klingon battle music) there really isn't a lot to recommend this movie. For a hardcore fan, it's watchable, but that's about as much as I'd give it.
4.5 of 10.
Current HCR Member Rating:
STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE: 5.32 / 10
I was a hard-core Trekkie back in the day when these things came out (heck, Wrath of Khan got me my cross country nickname of Spock), and even from that perspective this movie almost makes my eyes bleed.
Horrible costumes, slow-moving story, uninteresting new characters. I'll give it a few points for bringing Trek back, the music & some of the look, but that's as far as I'll go.
3
Words alone cannot express my dislike of this movie (along with basically everything Star Trek related). I just don't at all get it's appeal. This movie is a far worse offender then the show though. It was just bad. My rating...
2/10, and it's lucky to get that
phantom1592
04/20/2006, 17:52
Well, you can't start a series at "II", so I'll give this some points as the film that begat Wrath of Khan. Ah, now *that* was a movie. "KHAAAAN!" Oh, wait. We're talking about the first one. Feh. I'll give it a 6.5, only because that end scene with V'ger and the Moondragon-looking bald woman has been retconned into being the possible origin of the Borg. And the Borg are cool. So 6.5 for me.
Ok when did THIS happen?!? That is actually kind of cool. I would still only give it a 2. The costumes/ Plot/ pretty much everything, was boring. It's Really the ONLY trek movie I don't like.
Wyldstaar
04/20/2006, 18:13
Ok when did THIS happen?!? That is actually kind of cool. I would still only give it a 2. The costumes/ Plot/ pretty much everything, was boring. It's Really the ONLY trek movie I don't like.
Never. I don't know where he got the idea that V'ger and the Borg were somehow connected.
hail_eris
04/20/2006, 18:33
Never. I don't know where he got the idea that V'ger and the Borg were somehow connected.
It's not part of canon, but it was mentioned in one of Shatner's ST novels. The melded V'ger/Moondragon lady fell into a warp singularity or something and ended up on the Borg homeworld. There's a ton of fanwank about it, as that development actually does make the first movie about ten times more interesting. Check the Borg entry at Memory Alpha - goes into detail about the possibilities and problems with the theory.
Wyldstaar
04/20/2006, 18:48
I'll take your word for it. I always thought it was a shame that ST:TNG never got around to dealing with the possible connection between the Squire of Gothos from TOS and Q from TNG. In Q's first couple of appearances (also the only two appearances while Gene was still alive) he was extremely similar to the Squire. Most Trek fans expected a cannon link at some point in the series. After Gene died Q's character started to go in a different direction. I once saw a book cover that looked as though they'd made a link, but that's just not the same.
Current HCR Member Rating:
STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE: 4.43 / 10
(10 members rating)
A new LOW in our entire list.
I must rescue this film's measly average! I do like this film and I don't think it's the worst of the Trek films (TFF). It was a bit weird going from the TV series to this movie. It seems like a seriously overlong movie that could have been based on a discarded single episode story. Apart from the pace, I thought the rest of the film was ok. If it was on TV and I had nothing else to do I'd certainly watch it, and enjoy it. Put me down for a big fat 7. That includes an extra mark just because it's Star Trek! ;)
Wyldstaar
04/23/2006, 18:53
I do agree that ST: The Final Frontier was the worst of the bunch, but that doesn't change how bad TMP was.
EmperorNorton
04/23/2006, 19:02
I'll give it a 6.
Every time it's on TV I get lured into watching it.
Granted, I regret it every time, and I hate V'ger with a passion. But seeing Kirk, Spock and the others makes it enjoyable enough for me.
I do agree that ST: The Final Frontier was the worst of the bunch, but that doesn't change how bad TMP was.
Which one was that one, ST 5? Thats definately my least favorite of the original cast ST films.
spider_ham
04/24/2006, 17:04
ST:TMP was the first, but certainly not the worst. 5/10.
The first Star Trek was strange and too long. Interesting premise, though, and for that I give it a 6.0
iameleveneight
10/01/2007, 16:32
4/10
Slow, boring, and long as hell. I used to watch this movie to make me fall asleep in college.
Frontman
11/07/2007, 21:49
Well, actually I liked the first film. Yes, it was slow. But to me, if the story was interesting (and at its heart, it was) a slower moving film is fine. I actually rewatch this film from time to time, as I did enjoy many of the "Trek" scenes that made that original cast great. The sickbay scene alone with Spock explaining how V-Ger is incomplete, that the simple concept of holding a friend's hand is beyond its comprehension IS the core of what made "Star Trek" so great. (And why beyond TNG the Trek franchise suffered. They got away from the simple, and went into the action flick biz.)
7 out of 10.
monkeyshines
11/15/2007, 20:02
Slower moving is one thing, staring at cosmic space pictures with no dialogue for minutes on end is another. Also the most exciting event turns out to be a fluke transporter accident? This could have been a decent half hour TV episode, but dragging it out to movie length makes this a 4 tops.
the itsy bit
08/19/2008, 19:49
as the pilot for ST:TNG it would have been barely ok...
as a movie Ugh at least the Final Frontier had some redeeming factors...
4/10
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