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Seeing as how the biggest event in gaming doesn't have a topic, I decided to make one so we can share what we learn from this year's E3.
First up, Sony's press conference just wrapped and there's loads of news for the new console ranging from awesome to horrific.
Metal Gear Solid 4 was shown in all it's awesome glory.
Final Fantasy XIII looked pretty solid as well.
The new properties have promise, though some look a bit too generic such as that one FPS that was shown at length whose name I can't even remember.
It looks like the PSP and PS3 will tout connectivity, though I guess they didn't notice that was a failure for Nintendo a few years back.
Speaking of rip offs, the controller was revealed to have 6 degrees of gyroscopic control, a la the Wii controller. Although that one has 360 degrees of control so...
Then there's the price and release date. A nice day of November 17th, coming in two bundles featuring hard drives of 20 and 60 GB coming in at $500 and $600 respectively. All I can say about that is ouch.
FoxInStocks
05/09/2006, 09:36
Ah, Sony. Almost as crazy as Nintendo these days. Ahem.
As I understand it, the $500 system will not only have the smaller HD, but it will not support:
- Hi-Def TVs (no big deal as I don't have or intend to buy a HD TV soon)
- Memory sticks or compact flash (again, not a big deal since you have the 20GB drive)
- Wi-fi (big deal, as I really want wi-fi on my console)
If you want any of the above, you've got to shell out for the $600 unit.
Overall, I think Sony is living dangerously. They're putting themselves in a position where they're relying entirely on their 3rd party games and established franchises to support them. When this beast launches, you know MS will drop the price on the 360 to try and keep them in the lead. For people who buy entirely based on price, this will draw them away from the PS3.
Therein lies the stupidity of gamers, though. As expensive as it is, as overblown as it is, as stupid as it is (stealing Nintendo's controller idea), I'll buy a PS3. Why? Not because of the hardware, not because of the name brand, not because of the 'innovations'. I'm buying it because that's where Final Fantasy and Castlevania and Kingdom Hearts (and probably Mortal Kombat) are going. I go with the console that has the games I like to play.
Anyone who buys a console based on anything other than the games it produces is a moron. If all of the above franchises I like jumped to MS or Nintendo, that's where I'd go.
Am I the only one who finds it rather amusing that there are 8 Final Fantasies? Guess the first one wasn't really all that final...
Am I the only one who finds it rather amusing that there are 8 Final Fantasies? Guess the first one wasn't really all that final...
Oops, 13. Stupid roman numerals...
ReZourceman
05/09/2006, 10:49
Anyone who buys a console based on anything other than the games it produces is a moron.
Agreed.
And they jacked off Nintendos controller...FU**ERS! Oh well, good thing its only 6 degrees. Morons.
Is there any Nintendo News yet? Ive looked on the official site, but saw nothing...?
andrewtarius
05/09/2006, 11:06
I am really disappointed with the PS3 price tag. The $500 one will be best for me, no need for Hi-Def, not too big on memory sticks, don't care for Wi-Fi. Looks like I won't be getting it at launch (for MGS4) I thought we were already confirmed the PSP/PS3 connectivity. Oh well. What's with the gyros? Or is this something that MS is missing out on?
I think Nintendo has their opening later today. All three have different scheduled times. We better get some solid info on Twilight Princess! That's all I want.
Nintendo's is having their conference in minutes so I'll have a post covering that for those not watching it.
I personally will be getting a PS3 when the price goes way down. I'm also waiting anxiously to play MGS4 (full trailer will be online later today!) but since it comes out in 2007, I can stand to wait a little until then. I'l need at least two price drops to shell out that kinda cash though, as well as finally have access to the console's better games.
Well, a much more entertaining showing, but what started strong ended with a more muted finish.
Several games were shown off, including some new ones like Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxies, and my own personal favourite, Fire Emblem.
The graphics ranged from nasty (Excite Truck) to awesome (Red Steel) so I guess the power is still a bit of a question mark.
The controller will have a built in speaker adding to immersion slightly. The example used was an arrow flying through the air going from the controller to the TV.
Twighlight Princess will be coming out in two versions at the Wii's launch. One for the Gamecube, one for the Wii.
No launch date or price announced, just the vague "Fourth Quarter of 2006"
A few new DS games like Star Fox (yay!) were shown.
Overall a good show, but it seemed to be mismanaged in what was presented. I'm kinda tired so I might sit out Microsoft's conference in a few hours. I'll put some news up here any way after the fact though.
andrewtarius
05/09/2006, 13:57
Twighlight Princess will be coming out in two versions at the Wii's launch. One for the Gamecube, one for the Wii.That's it? That's all they have to say about it cornerstone franchises? We've already have known that for months. Heads are going to roll.
I'm kinda tired so I might sit out Microsoft's conference in a few hours. I'll put some news up here any way after the fact though.Supposedly, they will have something about the new Halo and Contra games. But I don't own a 360, so I couldn't care less.
Heh, I was being brief. They also had a very long demonstartion of that shown using the Wii controller to aim arrows, boomerangs, and fight monsters in a short dungeon.
FoxInStocks
05/09/2006, 16:22
Starfox for DS = Awesome.
Overall, I think this may be an awkward generation for video games. You seem to have two companies who think they have the industry figured out and one company who thinks they can decide what the industry SHOULD be about.
Smaug317
05/09/2006, 18:04
You forgot Final Fantasy 3 for DS!!!! Those graphics look SWEET.
I think Sony's out of this console war. WAY too pricy. For that (and the fact they ripped Nintendo) I won't get a PSP.
If The Revolution, er, I mean, Wii, has the game support, IMO Nintendo could easily be back to #1.
Alright, quick update for Microsoft because I didn't get to watch it because of some weird time delay stuff on the video feed and other obligations. It was a pretty good showing from them and Sony will definitely need to up it's game.
Gears of War was shown with RE4 esque gameplay (supposedly) and it's looking great.
Fable 2 was there which could be good if it actually delivers this time.
Halo 3 trailer shown, one of the few I caught and it underwhelmed me. It was like a movie trailer showing off new gameplay because I guess Halo doesn't think it needs to bother. I'd like to call it arrogance, but the fact that I'm not a fan of the series may be distorting my perspective here...
The huge news was that GTA4 will be on the 360. Of course, it's not going to be an exclusive title, but it will be coming out at the same time as the PS3 version. A tough break for Sony for sure.
Speaking of losses for Sony, Lumnies will be available on X-Box Live.
That's more or less all I've got, but there was more about Windows Vista and the marketplace on X-Box Live I didn't manage to catch. Aside from the GTA announcement there weren't any huge surprises though. Now all that's left are reports on gameplay from the show.
Gentlegamer
05/09/2006, 20:46
Like FiS, it is the games that matter most to me.
It sounds like all the game series I like best will remain with Sony, so that gives the PS3 an edge for me; however, the possible innovations of the Wii in games like Red Steel, the lower price, and ability to play tons of classic games from the days of SNES, Genesis, and TG-16 have my interest piqued. I already can play those classic formats via the magic of emulation on my PC, but it is still an attractive feature of the system. For that matter, the ability of the PS3 to play PS2, and PS1 games is also very attractive.
All that said, I *just* bought a PS2, and to me it is a new system, so I can wait quite a while before settling on a "next gen" console. I think it will be best to wait before deciding to see what kinds of games come out for each system and so on. I'm giving it about a year or so.
In the meantime, I may even pick up some "past gen" consoles at discount price . . . adding xbox and GameCube to my console playing is looking pretty good to me right now.
Gentlegamer
05/09/2006, 20:47
Also, the announcement that PS1 games will be playable on PSP via memory cards is making that portable system very attractive to me, though I am also interested in Nintendo DS.
Smaug317
05/09/2006, 21:01
I would suggest DS for the following reasons:
Cheaper Price
Better Internet Browser
Cheaper Price
WAY better games.
Cheaper Price
And, it supports Nintendo instead of the thieves at Sony.
And, did I mention cheaper price? :p
andrewtarius
05/09/2006, 21:01
I just saw the MGS4 trailer on G4 (this is the only time I'll watch it, after they destroyed TechTV), I am so freaking stoked about this game. I want to buy a PS3 so bad, but I don't know if I will have the funds :( .
ReZourceman
05/10/2006, 05:04
Just read about all the Nintendo stuff....Wow, sounds very cool.
A speaker in the remote...awesome! And I will need to buy Super Mario Galaxy...ROCK ON!
And Yoshis Island 2!!! And Star Fox DS....cool!!
Nintendo Wiill be back on top. :)
FoxInStocks
05/10/2006, 09:52
I doubt Nintendo is going to be back on top, not if they intend to truly force the issue with the Wii-mote. Like I said earlier, what's really going to define this generation is where the big game franchises go. The fact of the matter is that, despite how much it might hurt the wallet, gamers will buy the system that will play the games they like. I mean, do you think the Halo fans would skip the 360 if the 360 was priced at $600? Of course not. They'd suck it up and buy the console.
So, having said that, I think Nintendo is counting on it's in-house franchises to sell it. Mario, Zelda, Starfox, Metroid; that's their best hope. Why? Because I can promise you that 3rd party developers are not going to bother making a game like Resident Evil or Mortal Kombat for the PS3 and the 360, and then make a totally different version for the Wii that supports the remote. That leaves them with the option of skipping the Wii (thus depriving Nintendo of a big game title) or using the idea of a traditional controller shell with the remote (thus nullifying the 'revolutionary' Wii idea). And trust me: No 3rd party publisher is going to go exclusive on an underpowered system like Wii (and keep in mind that a lot of Nintendo's 'exclusive' 3rd party stuff, like Resident Evil 4, ended up going to other platforms anyhow). Why do you think that Square Enix is putting Final Fantasy XIII on the PS3 and Crystal Chronicles on the Wii? Because they want the pure horsepower to run the big guns, and they'll toss the other stuff over onto the Wii.
I don't mean to come off sounding like I'm anti-Nintendo; on the contrary, I love the DS and I'd love to see Nintendo get back on top again. I just don't see it happening if all they can deliver is their few in-house franchises while all the other big names (more of which interest me than even Zelda) go to the PS3 or the 360. I don't think Nintendo quite understands that what gamers will try and accept with a hand held unit like the DS is not what gamers even WANT on their home consoles.
Now, as for Sony...well, I think they've put themselves in a position where they MUST deliver some awesome games if they want to win this war. That $600 price tag is going to hurt them. I know I said that gamers will pay it in the end, but I think that you may see people wait this time around; I think the launch sales are going to be awful. Everyone will wait for a price drop, or for a 'must-have' game to come out. If Sony doesn't have the mother-of-all launch title line-ups, the 360 and the Wii are going to trounce them, and Sony may not be able to wait for gamers to shell out the cash for a PS3.
When it's all said and done, I think Sony built the best console and secured the best game line-ups, but I feel that they went overboard and built a console with a little too much FOR a little too much money, and that's going to hurt them.
Now watch me be wrong as Sega launches a new system that crushes everyone. Bam!
FoxInStocks
05/10/2006, 09:58
I would suggest DS for the following reasons:
And, it supports Nintendo instead of the thieves at Sony.
That's kind of like saying we should support the axe murders instead of the stranglers. :cheeky:
That's kind of like saying we should support the axe murders instead of the stranglers. :cheeky:
I'm sorry, but it's just hard to hate Nintendo these days. They seem to be the only ones interested in building games systems anymore. Everyone else seems to want to sell me something short of a PC. And for the price, I could build myself one #####IN' PC.
FoxInStocks
05/10/2006, 11:25
PC gaming is a non-issue for me. All I know is this: In my twenty-something years of owning and playing console video games, I have never had to download a patch to make my games work, or upgrade my hardware once a year to play the latest game.
FoxInStocks
05/10/2006, 11:30
Okay, I just read on a message board that the Wii's controller requires you to hang some sort of frame around your TV to allow it to sense the physical movement of the controller. Anyone else heard this, or know anything about it?
FoxInStocks
05/10/2006, 11:34
Perhaps I'm already going to have to eat a little crow?
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6150075.html
IF 3rd party developers are willing to do this, I could see the Wii taking 1st place this generation. However, the Wii installments are going to have to be something more than quick cash-ins on the controller design; they're going to have to be as good if not better than the mainstream installments (i.e. Resident Evil Wii is as good as Resident Evil 5).
ReZourceman
05/10/2006, 11:37
Okay, I just read on a message board that the Wii's controller requires you to hang some sort of frame around your TV to allow it to sense the physical movement of the controller. Anyone else heard this, or know anything about it?
I didnt hear that, although it would explain a bit. And if its stylish, / doesnt look ugly (Which isnt likely, imo Wii looks much more attractive than the other reject consoles...(Sorry Im pro-Ninty)) Then it wouldnt be too bad.
Also, It would explain a bit...I was wondering how it would have pin ponit accuracy etc....But whatever. Im cool with anything.
And a lot of 3rd parties have signed on for Wii games....Theres a specific version of Spider-man 3 Coming out on it....
FoxInStocks
05/10/2006, 11:44
Like I said, I go where the games go, and since FF and Mortal Kombat seem headed for the PS3, well...
You know what I think my biggest complaint about Wii and the controller is? Too much effort. When I want to play a video game, I want to just sit down on the couch and crash and play. Now that the controllers are all going wireless, it's even better. I really loathe the idea of having to swing my arms around or what have you to play a game.
Perhaps I'm already going to have to eat a little crow?
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6150075.html
IF 3rd party developers are willing to do this, I could see the Wii taking 1st place this generation. However, the Wii installments are going to have to be something more than quick cash-ins on the controller design; they're going to have to be as good if not better than the mainstream installments (i.e. Resident Evil Wii is as good as Resident Evil 5).
Heh, as I was reading this I was just about to post a link about RE on the Wii. I think it may have a little to do with the fact that RE4 sold a little better on the Gamecube and Capcom has done pretty well with Nintendo in general this gen.
The sensor bar looks pretty nice and non-obtrusive. You can see a pic right here:
http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6405
And I do think a lot of people will shell out for the PS3 for FFXIII and MGS4 alone, I know I will when the price goes down. However, I did see a couple of Wii games I'd like to play as well so that's another console on my want list. The fact that the PS3 now supports the same type of gyroscopic control in its controller as well makes me think third parties will be more likely to pay a bit more attention to that means of control and would port a few more games to the Wii.
It does come down to the games when all is said and done, and in that respect, I really want to play Star Fox for the DS. Of all the surprise announcement, it's kinda funny that this one has me the most anxious. Oh, and Fire Emblem for the Wii, but all of that which was shown was a five second cutscene. I'm glad it's coming though.
hail_eris
05/10/2006, 13:09
PC gaming is a non-issue for me. All I know is this: In my twenty-something years of owning and playing console video games, I have never had to download a patch to make my games work, or upgrade my hardware once a year to play the latest game.
And in that same time, have you ever played a decent RTS on a console? Or a truly immersive FPS? Can any console controller match the pinpoint accuracy of an old fashioned WASD keyboard and mouse setup? How many people are still playing Halo? Because Half-Life, a game that's eight years old, is still wildly popular because of its mod-ability. PC games have their strengths, just as consoles do. On that note, has anyone seen the preview of Crysis, the sequel to Far Cry? It's supposed to be a thing of beauty...
Smaug317
05/10/2006, 14:02
I mean, do you think the Halo fans would skip the 360 if the 360 was priced at $600? Of course not. They'd suck it up and buy the console.
Yes. They would skip the 360 and play it on a PC. :)
PC gaming is a non-issue for me. All I know is this: In my twenty-something years of owning and playing console video games, I have never had to download a patch to make my games work, or upgrade my hardware once a year to play the latest game.
I can understand this, but there's an awful lot of garbage games that come out for the consoles, that might have become something had the developers had the option of a patch system. There's no way to prove such a speculation, but it's a pretty easy hypothesis.
That being said, I spent 400 dollars to build my system 3 years ago, and I have yet to find any need to upgrade it to play the newer games I want to play.
I love my FF games too, but that's why I intend to sell my Gamecube, buy a used PS2, grab my FFVIII and FFX, not to mention Bloody Roar 1-3, and save money for the Revolution. (like hell if I'm gonna call it the Wii)
Sony's put a noose around their necks. You can't claim to have the online gaming market figured out and then price your console at $600 at the same time. I can't wait to meet the first person I know who gets a PS3.
"Hey, Thawmus, you wanna play some FFXIII with me online?"
"Gee, I'd love to, but I can't justify $600 right now. That's my rent, car insurance, and food this month."
"Aw, damn, I can't find anyone to play this with me......"
FoxInStocks
05/10/2006, 21:08
And in that same time, have you ever played a decent RTS on a console? Or a truly immersive FPS? Can any console controller match the pinpoint accuracy of an old fashioned WASD keyboard and mouse setup? How many people are still playing Halo? Because Half-Life, a game that's eight years old, is still wildly popular because of its mod-ability. PC games have their strengths, just as consoles do. On that note, has anyone seen the preview of Crysis, the sequel to Far Cry? It's supposed to be a thing of beauty...
I don't play RTS games, and I still consider Goldeneye 64 to be one of the absolute best FPS ever. Currently, the FPS I play the most is Metroid Prime: Hunters for the DS. So, PC's still fall firmly in the 'meh' category for me.
FoxInStocks
05/10/2006, 21:10
...not to mention Bloody Roar 1-3, and save money for the Revolution.
Wow. That means there are TWO people in the world who play Bloody Roar.
I know there are a lot of Nintendo fans on this board, and I know there are a lot of Smash Bros. fans on this board. I know there are also fans of a specific franchise, but I won't spoil the surprise but you'll all like this too. So to all of you, enjoy this:
!!! (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24610476&page=0)
There it is, the one game I think surprised me more then any other at the show possibly could or possibly will.
ReZourceman
05/11/2006, 07:49
I know there are a lot of Nintendo fans on this board, and I know there are a lot of Smash Bros. fans on this board. I know there are also fans of a specific franchise, but I won't spoil the surprise but you'll all like this too. So to all of you, enjoy this:
!!! (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24610476&page=0)
There it is, the one game I think surprised me more then any other at the show possibly could or possibly will.
I was just reading this, this morning. First thing i did when I got in the office...I was like....(In my mind) "Super Smash Bros. Brawl.......GGGGEEEEZZZZZ!!!!!!!!"
:cheeky: SOUNDS SO COOL. SSBM, is imo the best multiplayer game EVER.
Wow. That means there are TWO people in the world who play Bloody Roar.
That game is the shizz, I don't know why everyone hates it. Seriously, it's friggin' Tekken with less complicated controls, and you get to turn into vicious creatures that rip each other to shreds. What's not to love?
Gimme an hour of Long and ShenLong play-time, and I've got all the therapy I need for a day. :p
ReZourceman
05/11/2006, 09:45
That game is the shizz, I don't know why everyone hates it. Seriously, it's friggin' Tekken with less complicated controls, and you get to turn into vicious creatures that rip each other to shreds. What's not to love?
Gimme an hour of Long and ShenLong play-time, and I've got all the therapy I need for a day. :p
I dont remember which one, but I played one of the Bloody Roars, and thoguht it was awesome.
FoxInStocks
05/11/2006, 09:45
That game is the shizz, I don't know why everyone hates it. Seriously, it's friggin' Tekken with less complicated controls, and you get to turn into vicious creatures that rip each other to shreds. What's not to love?
Gimme an hour of Long and ShenLong play-time, and I've got all the therapy I need for a day. :p
I only have BR3...unless I traded it in, which I don't remember now. It was fun, but I'm a bigger fan of the new Mortal Kombat stuff. When I was playing BR, though, I was best with the lion dude. Gado? Whatever his name was.
ReZourceman
05/11/2006, 09:49
I heard the next MK game was going to have every single MK character in EVER. And THAT is awesome!
(Mortal Kombat, not Mario Kart :cheeky: :cheeky: )
I only have BR3...unless I traded it in, which I don't remember now. It was fun, but I'm a bigger fan of the new Mortal Kombat stuff. When I was playing BR, though, I was best with the lion dude. Gado? Whatever his name was.
Yeah, Gado's the man. In BR2, I had him pretty much mastered. Had even the hardest difficulty opponents down in less than 10 seconds. His special attack was always great too. He'd just uppercut them and then blast them with energy from behind him, without looking.
Of course, nothing beats a good Long or ShenLong player who's mastered the 6-level combo ring. I remember being able to keep that thing going for a good half-hour straight once. I was actually more impressed with my friend who was able to keep blocking and dodging it than my own ability to keep it going..... :eek:
FoxInStocks
05/11/2006, 10:02
I heard the next MK game was going to have every single MK character in EVER. And THAT is awesome!
(Mortal Kombat, not Mario Kart :cheeky: :cheeky: )
Dude, you don't know the half of it. Mortal Kombat: Armageddon will feature:
- EVERY character from EVERY Mortal Kombat, including re-designs of some of them.
- Classic arenas like the Subway from MK III and Shao Kahn's arena from MK II
- Create-a-character mode.
If you go to the offical site (mkarmageddon.com, or something like that) they have up the E3 trailer, which is just awesome.
E3 has been awesome so far. My list of wants is crazy now.
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
FFVII: Dirge of Cerebus
FFIII
FFXII
Starfox DS
And they all come out in, like, the same month. :ermm:
what is FFIII going to be? I know FFIII is easy to say and all, but which one is it REALLY, and how great is it going to be? I'm stoked about having a real FF for the DS, though. Been playing all the GBA ones so far.
ReZourceman
05/11/2006, 10:11
.....Ill go on that in a second...sounds FRIGGIN AWESOME!
FFVII: Dirge of Cerebus
Whats this?
ReZourceman
05/11/2006, 10:13
what is FFIII going to be? I know FFIII is easy to say and all, but which one is it REALLY, and how great is it going to be? I'm stoked about having a real FF for the DS, though. Been playing all the GBA ones so far.
Yeah, I hope its good too. I havent played a good RPG since...erm Probably Golden Sun! (Well apart form Pokemon, which is a Pokemon game...thyre in their own class)
FoxInStocks
05/11/2006, 10:16
Final Fantasy III is Final Fantasy III. It never got released in America at all, period. They're basically re-making it for the DS with FFVII-era sensibilities, and with a real plot (FF I - III didn't have any true plot other than 'save the world'). I think it's going to be incredible, and may well be the best Final Fantasy we've seen in a long time.
If you're asking about the Japan-to-America release numbering, it went like this:
FFI was released.
FFII and III were released only in Japan.
FFIV was released in Japan, and released in America as FFII.
FFV was released only in Japan.
FFVI was released in Japan, and in America as FFIII.
Then FFVII was released in Japan and America as FFVII, and the numbering of the games has matched up since then. FFII and V were released for the original Playstation as part of an anthology set, along with VI. All were given new FMV cut scenes as well, I believe.
FoxInStocks
05/11/2006, 10:18
.....Ill go on that in a second...sounds FRIGGIN AWESOME!
Whats this?
Remember Vincent Valentine from FFVII? Dirge of Cerebus is a spin-off title featuring him. It takes place one year after Advent Children (three years after FFVII), and it's sort of a hybrid RPG/third-person shooter. Looks pretty good.
ReZourceman
05/11/2006, 10:33
Just went on the site....Nice. Im sure Ill get more excited when we see some of the characters, but the fact that it has all those options is mind blowing. Another reason for em to get a PS2....
(Along with Taito Legends ...2 I think it is...and Black)
But thats If I can find a cheap one.
FoxInStocks
05/11/2006, 10:38
Indeed. You actually can see all of the characters; there's a wallpaper on the site with everyone on it. I also hear that the Fatality system is better. Now, you basically make your own Fatality. No more remembering combos and trying to punch them in in time.
I just can't wait to design my own character and get into the mix. Mortal Kombat: Deception was a fantastic game, and I think Armageddon is going to top it in every way possible.
FoxInStocks
05/11/2006, 10:51
Also, the announcement that PS1 games will be playable on PSP via memory cards is making that portable system very attractive to me, though I am also interested in Nintendo DS.
Two reasons for the DS:
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Smaug317
05/11/2006, 11:00
WOW, did anyone see the SSB Brawl trailor? AWESOMENESS!
ReZourceman
05/11/2006, 11:08
WOW, did anyone see the SSB Brawl trailor? AWESOMENESS!
Ill have to wait till the weekend to watch it, but Im pumped too!
Smaug317
05/11/2006, 11:15
Dude, you don't know the half of it. Mortal Kombat: Armageddon will feature:
- EVERY character from EVERY Mortal Kombat, including re-designs of some of them.
- Classic arenas like the Subway from MK III and Shao Kahn's arena from MK II
- Create-a-character mode.
If you go to the offical site (mkarmageddon.com, or something like that) they have up the E3 trailer, which is just awesome.
E3 has been awesome so far. My list of wants is crazy now.
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
FFVII: Dirge of Cerebus
FFIII
FFXII
Starfox DS
And they all come out in, like, the same month. :ermm:
Yep, kinda breaks the wallet doesn't it? :ermm:
But really, this E3 makes me seriously want to cut back on my 'clix spending and increase my "Games" spending. :p
FoxInStocks
05/11/2006, 11:22
I haven't bought clix since Legacy, so I'm cool in that category. :)
Gentlegamer
05/11/2006, 23:20
Final Fantasy III is Final Fantasy III. It never got released in America at all, period. They're basically re-making it for the DS with FFVII-era sensibilities, and with a real plot (FF I - III didn't have any true plot other than 'save the world'). I think it's going to be incredible, and may well be the best Final Fantasy we've seen in a long time.Sounds cool!
If you're asking about the Japan-to-America release numbering, it went like this:
FFI was released.
FFII and III were released only in Japan.
FFIV was released in Japan, and released in America as FFII.
FFV was released only in Japan.
FFVI was released in Japan, and in America as FFIII.
Any FF fans owe it to themselves to find the translated versions of FFII and III on the NES, playable through emulation.
It should be noted that the official FFII in the US was based on the "easy type" of the Japanese FFIV, with reduced options, and a famously bad text translation. Through the magic of emulation, the original, "hard type" FFIV with much better English translation is available.
Or you could get the GBA version with it's difficulty intact and a very nice translation. If you support Square they may start bringing the rest of this obscure franchise overseas. :cheeky:
Smaug317
05/12/2006, 11:28
Or you could get the GBA version with it's difficulty intact and a very nice translation. If you support Square they may start bringing the rest of this obscure franchise overseas. :cheeky:
And they are, We already have 1&2 and 4.
3 is coming to DS. :)
And 5 is coming to GBA.
FoxInStocks
05/12/2006, 11:31
I want to see VI released with either a III-style makeover, or with the PS FMVs. I hope they do it more justice than a simple GBA release.
Interesting Fact: There is a demo from the VII era of FFVI done in 3D. It was fully playable, and was done by Square to see if the N64 could do what they wanted for FFVII. I think y'all know how THAT turned out.
The PS version only had around three (I think) FMVs though so I'm willing to go for the upcoming GBA release for a poilished translation and whatever bonus stuff will be included with it. I'd rather they just focused on making XIII as good as possible right now, it is my lucky number after all.
Aeturnus
05/12/2006, 12:29
Any news on Earthbound 2/Mother 3 coming to America?
They were supposed to announce a release date at E3.
Gentlegamer
05/12/2006, 16:45
Interesting Fact: There is a demo from the VII era of FFVI done in 3D. It was fully playable, and was done by Square to see if the N64 could do what they wanted for FFVII. I think y'all know how THAT turned out.If I remember correctly, the N64 was up to snuff graphically, but the limited size of a cart would have seriously limited the size of the game, both for overall length and cut scene multimedia content. FFVII ended up a two CD game . . . there's no way all that would have fit on a cart.
That's actually the perfect example of why Nintendo fell to Sony during that era: using carts limited the amount of "multimedia" content in the games.
Gentlegamer
05/12/2006, 16:47
Two reasons for the DS:
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of RuinHmmmmm
I'm a Ghosts 'n Goblins fan, too. Ultimate Ghosts 'n Goblins for PSP is another check on its side right now . . .
Aeturnus
05/12/2006, 23:54
Earthbound 2/Mother 3 might be released in Europe according to Starmen.net
TOTALLY KILLER Y'ALL, I'MMA FINALLY GET A GOOD VIDEO GAME!
*gasp* Does this mean we could be getting it in North America as well? Well either way, if there is an English version I WILL have it! Fuzzy pickles!
FoxInStocks
05/13/2006, 11:47
If I remember correctly, the N64 was up to snuff graphically, but the limited size of a cart would have seriously limited the size of the game, both for overall length and cut scene multimedia content. FFVII ended up a two CD game . . . there's no way all that would have fit on a cart.
That's actually the perfect example of why Nintendo fell to Sony during that era: using carts limited the amount of "multimedia" content in the games.
FFVII was three CDs. ;)
Aeturnus
05/13/2006, 11:51
*gasp* Does this mean we could be getting it in North America as well? Well either way, if there is an English version I WILL have it! Fuzzy pickles!
Who cares if an American version comes out?
GBA games aren't region-specific. :) BRING ON THE EURO.
FFVII sucked.
Yeah, but importing costs money, I'd like to get it as cheap as possible myself, especially with all these games coming out soon.
Smaug317
05/13/2006, 15:52
Yeah, but importing costs money, I'd like to get it as cheap as possible myself, especially with all these games coming out soon.
Yep, I hate importing games. I really want Jump Superstars for DS, and minimum it will cost to import it is $50. >.<
Heh, funny you should mention that, because I got Jump Superstars a couple of months back. A store where I live (Toronto) happened to be carrying it at an inflated price so I picked it up. Only cost an extra 10-20 bucks, but it was worthwhile for some time. Like all fighters though, it loses it's luster in single player and the single cart multiplayer only has a mere four decks to choose from.
ReZourceman
05/13/2006, 17:31
Yep, I hate importing games. I really want Jump Superstars for DS, and minimum it will cost to import it is $50. >.<
Pffft.
$50.00 = £26.44
Average price of Nintendo DS game in United Kingdom
= £29.99. :rolleyes:
You think youve got it bad.
Smaug317
05/13/2006, 22:24
Heh, funny you should mention that, because I got Jump Superstars a couple of months back. A store where I live (Toronto) happened to be carrying it at an inflated price so I picked it up. Only cost an extra 10-20 bucks, but it was worthwhile for some time. Like all fighters though, it loses it's luster in single player and the single cart multiplayer only has a mere four decks to choose from.
Would you mind checking my heroclix and video games lists to see if there is anything you would want to trade it for? :p
ReZourceman
05/15/2006, 04:18
So.....one the last day of E3
- PS3 Sony booth, practically deserted, despite being the first place to have playable PS3's.
- Nintendo Wii Booth very crowded. :cool:
Other news on PS3.
- Apparently the 20GB version isnt being released in UK.
- Apparently the 60GB version will be £425.00 in UK.
- PS3 do not have Rumble/Vibrate functions in the controllers.
- The 20GB version cannot have its memory upgraded.
- 20GB version has no HD support
- 20GB version has wired controllers
- 20GB version has NO Wi-Fi
- 20GB version has no Playstation Memory Card slots.
:p Ha Ha.
After haveing watched most of G4's E3 coverage I was suprised to find that the console that I thought I would want the most is actually the one I want the least. Before I will buy any system I demand that there be a set number of games out, on shelves, that I really want to play. That number used to be 5, but at $400-$600 dollars I have to raise it to closer to 7-10 (about 7 for the 360, 10 for the enourmously expensive PS3). The rumor is that the Wii will cost $250, that only requires 5 games for me. As of now there is one announced game for the 360 I really want (Too Human), 3 for the Wii (Zelda, Smash Brothers, Metroid), and none for the PS3. While the PS3 might have more games down the road I'll believe it when I see them, a FF13 claim from a company that still hasn't managed to get FF12 out yet doesn't impress me as anything right now. In all likelihood I'll end up buying a Wii first and being happy even with a smaller game selection because I could buy it twice over and still not have played what the PS3 costs.
ReZourceman
05/15/2006, 05:37
After haveing watched most of G4's E3 coverage I was suprised to find that the console that I thought I would want the most is actually the one I want the least. Before I will buy any system I demand that there be a set number of games out, on shelves, that I really want to play. That number used to be 5, but at $400-$600 dollars I have to raise it to closer to 7-10 (about 7 for the 360, 10 for the enourmously expensive PS3). The rumor is that the Wii will cost $250, that only requires 5 games for me. As of now there is one announced game for the 360 I really want (Too Human), 3 for the Wii (Zelda, Smash Brothers, Metroid), and none for the PS3. While the PS3 might have more games down the road I'll believe it when I see them, a FF13 claim from a company that still hasn't managed to get FF12 out yet doesn't impress me as anything right now. In all likelihood I'll end up buying a Wii first and being happy even with a smaller game selection because I could buy it twice over and still not have played what the PS3 costs.
Word up.
I was talking to Aquafire yesterday, and basically saying to him blah blah PS3 sucks...And then I said to him..."Name 3 exclusive games you actually want" He couldnt even name one.
And then I siad, okay, have your PS3, whilst I have my Wii and 5 Games for the same price. :cheeky:
FoxInStocks
05/15/2006, 08:29
I'm still of the opinion that the PS3 is the best designed and built console. Of course, that could be to its disadvantage considering the price.
I am not, however, impressed with the Wii. I read a couple of reports over the last day or two saying that the Wii-mote sounded better on paper than in execution, and I even read one article from an editor at 1up.com saying that during the conference for the console, the 'one person in the world' who had played the Wii Twilight Princess was having a hard time hitting anything on screen. I get the distinct impression that the Wii will see a lot of attention at launch because it's new, but will quickly lose its momentum when the hardware is put to the test.
Right now, everyone is crying that the price will determine the winner. But honestly, five or six years ago when PS2 launched at $300, did any of you say, "Wow! $300! What a deal! I'm buying that NOW!" I doubt it. I'm sure we all went, "Man...that's a lot of money. But, whatever!"
I know, I know. It sounds like I'm Nintendo bashing. I don't mean to do it, but everytime I get excited about the console, I think of a dozen reasons why it'd be a waste, and a dozen more reasons to wait for the PS3 to get a price drop or a must-have game.
FoxInStocks
05/15/2006, 08:46
Another issue I'm having with the Wii is what we know so far of it's Wii-mote support. Here's what we know:
- Twilight Princess will use the Wii-mote...but it seems to be having problems with it.
- Metroid will use it...and it looks cool. There, I said it.
- Smash Brothers will NOT use the Wii-mote...in fact, it will use a Gamecube controller. I never got a Gamecube. Are you telling me I have to get a last-gen controller to play your next-gen game? WTF?
- Other titles, like Wario Ware, Excite Truck (yee-haw :p), and other generic sports games pretty much fill in the range of what I expected to see from the Wii-mote: Gimmicky games. I hear Wario Ware has a game where you use the controller to cook. HOW EXCITING. :|
I think I'd be all over this console if the Wii-mote tech was more proven, or if it was implemented IN ADDITION to classic control.
ReZourceman
05/15/2006, 09:08
Another issue I'm having with the Wii is what we know so far of it's Wii-mote support. Here's what we know:
- Twilight Princess will use the Wii-mote...but it seems to be having problems with it.
- Metroid will use it...and it looks cool. There, I said it.
- Smash Brothers will NOT use the Wii-mote...in fact, it will use a Gamecube controller. I never got a Gamecube. Are you telling me I have to get a last-gen controller to play your next-gen game? WTF?
- Other titles, like Wario Ware, Excite Truck (yee-haw :p), and other generic sports games pretty much fill in the range of what I expected to see from the Wii-mote: Gimmicky games. I hear Wario Ware has a game where you use the controller to cook. HOW EXCITING. :|
I think I'd be all over this console if the Wii-mote tech was more proven, or if it was implemented IN ADDITION to classic control.
Hmmm, where did you hear the Smash Bros Gamecube controller thing (Although, Id actually be perfectly happy with that..!!!!
>o<
But give it time, remember these arent the finalised versions by a long shot, and they still have time to improve. :)
FoxInStocks
05/15/2006, 09:23
I don't remember where I read it, but it was an interview with the Smash Brothers director/creator. I'll look around.
Also, it may not be finalized, but I HIGHLY doubt they're going to incorporate Wii-mote control into a game like SB at this point. I also doubt they'll use the Wii classic controller, 'cause that thing looks terrible.
FoxInStocks
05/15/2006, 09:27
Here you go: http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html
Also, I think Nintendo needs to get its boys all on the same page. Nintendo HQ says that the Wii-mote is supposed to make gaming simpler, but their SB dude is saying that trying to implement it made things too complicated. Which is it?
ReZourceman
05/15/2006, 09:34
Here you go: http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html
Also, I think Nintendo needs to get its boys all on the same page. Nintendo HQ says that the Wii-mote is supposed to make gaming simpler, but their SB dude is saying that trying to implement it made things too complicated. Which is it?
Well Ill be the first to admit, a Wii-type controller wouldnt really work on a game like Smash Bros...
..Side not, it took one English Games site (www.gamesradar.com) to tell the makers of the PS3 Smackdown game that it didnt have vibrations, as Sony didnt even tell them.
FoxInStocks
05/15/2006, 09:45
Well Ill be the first to admit, a Wii-type controller wouldnt really work on a game like Smash Bros...
..Side not, it took one English Games site (www.gamesradar.com) to tell the makers of the PS3 Smackdown game that it didnt have vibrations, as Sony didnt even tell them.
I think you're going to find a lot of games that don't work well with the Wii-mote, but we'll see.
As for the PS3 thing, I can't say I'm surprised. I think the whole controller re-design was an 11th hour thing (and stolen though the concept may be, I think Sony is putting motion-control to better use than Nintendo). I was actually just thinking that Sony may pull another 11th hour change and drop price before launch. I mean, let's face it: Sony NEEDS the PS3 to do well, not only for their share of the game market but also for their overall strategy of making Blu-Ray the HD standard. If they feel that the $600 price on the PS3 is going to hurt sales, they may well drop it.
I wish it was next January. I'm really curious to see how this all plays out. Also, lots of new games for the DS and PS2 this fall. :p
FoxInStocks
05/15/2006, 09:47
Oh, the other thing about the SB controller is that it goes back to what I said about the Wii concept at day 1: Am I going to have to buy a new controller or add-on for every game I want to play?
Let's say I buy a Wii. I want to play SB. I don't own a Gamecube. Now I have to buy a Gamecube controller to play. I guess it'll look nice next to the Wii-mote, the Wii-Zapper, the classic Wii-controller, the Wii-nunchuck...
Watched quite a bit of the PS3 show................I'll let you guess how......
They talked more about the PSP than the PS3, to me at least......
"RiiiiidgeRacer!!!"
Some games looked pretty damn cool. If the PS3 gets a price drop, I'll be interested, but only after the system's been out for at least 6 months.
Heavenly Sword looks ####ing awesome! :eek:
I'm not really sure how the inferior tilt sensor in the PS3 can be deemed better, but whatever. And I hope you see the irony in complaining about having to use a last gen controller with a next gen game, especially when you look at the eerily similar PS3 and 360 controllers.
I had heard Smash Bros. was using the classic controller for the Wii as well as the Gamecube one, but we'll have to see I guess. And I'm not completely sold on the controller itself, but the reports have been conflicting. I wanna get my hands on it for an extended period of time to get a good handle on using it. I'm not sure a few minutes with a new interface is sufficient experience to reach a conclusion and I don't really buy that it's instantly intuitive or whatever nonsense the hype around is building up as.
I think $600 will be a bit much for some people. When you look at the cost of other types of personal technology, they seem to be getting more powerful without such a drastic increase, PCs are a great example of that. I'm sure PS3 will sell well enough, but I'd expcet most of its sales to come after the first few price drops. I know I want one, but not for $600 unless it were launching with FF13 and MGS4. Even then it might be a bit much.
I am not, however, impressed with the Wii. I read a couple of reports over the last day or two saying that the Wii-mote sounded better on paper than in execution, and I even read one article from an editor at 1up.com saying that during the conference for the console, the 'one person in the world' who had played the Wii Twilight Princess was having a hard time hitting anything on screen. I get the distinct impression that the Wii will see a lot of attention at launch because it's new, but will quickly lose its momentum when the hardware is put to the test.
Well in contrast to that both Adam Sessler and Morgan Webb got to play several games (one of them being Twilight Princess) with the "Wii-mote" at E3 and they both said it was very easy and intuative, in fact it was so easy and responsive that they found themselves overcompensating at first. I've also heard that the games will not have to use the periphery and that it will function like a normal controller (which makes sense since one of the Wii's online services is the downloadable Nintendo and SNES games, which obviously wouldn't make sense with the Wii-mote). I've also heard that many third party developers are excited about what they can do with this device that they can't with normal controllers. While the Wii is certainly less powerful I'm of the opinion that a lot of the 360 and PS3's power is going to end up wasted (most noteably their high defention t.v. capability) especially early on.
FoxInStocks
05/15/2006, 13:15
I'm not really sure how the inferior tilt sensor in the PS3 can be deemed better, but whatever.
Motion sensor control could work very well as a little spice with traditional control. I don't feel it's a good idea to make it your entire control scheme, though.
And I hope you see the irony in complaining about having to use a last gen controller with a next gen game, especially when you look at the eerily similar PS3 and 360 controllers.
I don't see the irony, 'cause my complaint is that they're releasing a game for a next-gen console that you literally have to use last years model to play. PS2/3 may have similar controllers, but the controller in the box with the console plays all the games. In Nintendo's case, though, they want you to use a controller that A) likely won't be included with the console and B) isn't even the platforms primary control method. That's like telling you that you need to go find a N64 controller to play the new Zelda. Explain to me how that would be a good idea on any level.
FoxInStocks
05/15/2006, 13:19
While the Wii is certainly less powerful I'm of the opinion that a lot of the 360 and PS3's power is going to end up wasted (most noteably their high defention t.v. capability) especially early on.
Agreed. I think that's the smartest thing Nintendo has done with the Wii. HDMI support is going to be wasted until HDTV is more common place, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. $600 for a system that plays PS, PS2, PS3 games, DVDs, and Blu-Ray movies (and lets not forget the online capabilites) is something I can, vaugely, justify. $1,000 or more for a television is not something I can justify. :p
I don't see the irony, 'cause my complaint is that they're releasing a game for a next-gen console that you literally have to use last years model to play. PS2/3 may have similar controllers, but the controller in the box with the console plays all the games. In Nintendo's case, though, they want you to use a controller that A) likely won't be included with the console and B) isn't even the platforms primary control method. That's like telling you that you need to go find a N64 controller to play the new Zelda. Explain to me how that would be a good idea on any level.
I'm not sure where you got that little bit of information. Not only do we not know what type of controller additions will ship with the Wii (the nunchuck seems to be a given at this point though), but we also don't know the final control scheme for Smash Bros. aside from the fact that the Gamecube controller will be compatible. There isn't any information anywhere saying you won't be able to use the Wii controller with whatever attachments it's bundled with right out of the box to play the game. Being able to use the Gamecube controller seems nice to me though, but I'm sure Nintendo would like people who never owned their older console to try out the game as well.
While the motion control aspect is debatable, I was merely pointing out that Sony's motion sensor doesn't have the same level of functionality as Nintendo's and was inferior in that sense making it more a bonus extra feature that may be harder to apply due to the difficulty of using a traditional controller in that respect.
ReZourceman
05/16/2006, 04:41
Yeah, A few points
- It might be possible that they give a Gamecube controller with the system. "But what would be the point of including it for just one game?!" But think about it.
- If some Wii games benefit from it.
- To enable players to buy both Wii and Gamecube games
But most importantly :
- Could be used as a conventional controller for the back catalogue of games that you will be able ot download. Gamecube has more than enough buttons to cater for NES, SNES, N64, Megadrive etc etc.
So its a possibility.
FoxInStocks
05/16/2006, 08:35
It's realistic to think they won't ship a Gamecube controller with it. Let's look first at the controllers new to the Wii:
- Wii-mote
- Classic controller (this is confirmed; search any game site and you'll find offical pics)
- Zapper
- Nunchuk-thing
Okay. So those are offical Wii perihperals. It's a no-brainer that the Wii-mote will come in-box. Now, let's look at what the Wii is pusing as a major feature of the console OTHER than the unique control. The only other feature is the download service that lets you play any game from any of their platforms (except Gamecube, from what I understand), plus some Sega and TG16 stuff. Now, if they're going to include one other type of controller, which does it make more sense to release? The Wii classic controller, or the Gamecube controller? If you say the Gamecube controller, then what's the point of making the classic controller? Unless, of course, they're going ape-crazy and going to try and sell you a different controller for every different game system the Wii can support. And really...is that any better?
FoxInStocks
05/16/2006, 08:37
I'm not sure where you got that little bit of information. Not only do we not know what type of controller additions will ship with the Wii (the nunchuck seems to be a given at this point though), but we also don't know the final control scheme for Smash Bros. aside from the fact that the Gamecube controller will be compatible.
Go back and read that article I posted. The guy making the game clearly states that they are not using the Wii-mote. They are using the Gamecube controller. What else is there to say? Short of an 11th hour switch up where they either tack on Wii-mote support or create ANOTHER controller, plan on using the Gamecube controller.
The only other option is that they use the Wii classic controller, and that thing looks terribly uncomfortable.
FoxInStocks
05/16/2006, 08:43
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/news/story.php?sid=6149763
There you go. The Wii classic controller. On a side note, I see in that article that they speculate that the presence of the analog sticks is for possible Gamecube compatibility. I'm willing to bet that if they include anything in-box with the console (along with the Wii-mote), it'll be this thing.
ReZourceman
05/16/2006, 08:44
Go back and read that article I posted. The guy making the game clearly states that they are not using the Wii-mote. They are using the Gamecube controller. What else is there to say? Short of an 11th hour switch up where they either tack on Wii-mote support or create ANOTHER controller, plan on using the Gamecube controller.
The only other option is that they use the Wii classic controller, and that thing looks terribly uncomfortable.
Please could you post a link, I just tried searching google, but cant find this standard controller you speak of. Cheers.
FoxInStocks
05/16/2006, 09:05
Please could you post a link, I just tried searching google, but cant find this standard controller you speak of. Cheers.
Check the post above you. ;)
ReZourceman
05/16/2006, 09:17
Check the post above you. ;)
Lol! I just noticed as you posted.
Wow, that looks kinda cool...A mix of retro and Non-retro.
It may not look that comfy (Although it does have a slight angle 2 thirds of the way down, and might mold to your hand around the back) but it might be.
Cheers. (And yes I see its quite unlikely theyll include a GC controller now) But I cant see the Wii-controller differing tremendously form the GC one...Maybe you can use the GC or Wii-classic on SSB:B?
FoxInStocks
05/16/2006, 09:21
Lol! I just noticed as you posted.
Wow, that looks kinda cool...A mix of retro and Non-retro.
It may not look that comfy (Although it does have a slight angle 2 thirds of the way down, and might mold to your hand around the back) but it might be.
Cheers. (And yes I see its quite unlikely theyll include a GC controller now) But I cant see the Wii-controller differing tremendously form the GC one...Maybe you can use the GC or Wii-classic on SSB:B?
That's my guess. You can probably use either-or. However, if I had a Gamecube controller I'd use that. The GC controller was actually pretty nice. Though, I just noticed the Wii classic has a wire. I hope they plan on making it wireless somehow. No matter what console I settle on, the one thing I'm looking forward to most this gen is the removal of wires. :ermm:
FoxInStocks
05/16/2006, 09:34
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6151046/p-3.html
Another interesting article on the Wii. Watch the video for Red Steel on that page.
ReZourceman
05/16/2006, 09:36
That's my guess. You can probably use either-or. However, if I had a Gamecube controller I'd use that. The GC controller was actually pretty nice. Though, I just noticed the Wii classic has a wire. I hope they plan on making it wireless somehow. No matter what console I settle on, the one thing I'm looking forward to most this gen is the removal of wires. :ermm:
Dang yeah, you would hope it would be wireless too..
...Of course those of us with Wavebirds have been experiencing Wireless for a while...and then some unofficial Playstation companies ripped it off. ;)
(Starting to see a pattern here....he he)
ReZourceman
05/16/2006, 09:37
Oh yeah and if you really wanted a GC controller I cant imagine theyd be that much....A second hand Gamecube console over here is DIRT cheap. Considering a brand new Gamecube is now £39.99.
ReZourceman
05/16/2006, 09:41
Oh yeah, and It may seem like Im anti-Sony (Well Im pro-Nintendo, so I guess thats a given ;) )
But I can admit, That the graphics are stunning.
And for anyone who cares, first pictures of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl over at www.serebii.net
FoxInStocks
05/16/2006, 10:07
Dang yeah, you would hope it would be wireless too..
...Of course those of us with Wavebirds have been experiencing Wireless for a while...and then some unofficial Playstation companies ripped it off. ;)
(Starting to see a pattern here....he he)
I don't want to sound like I'm trying to defend Sony here, but this whole 'they ripped so-and-so off' thing is getting silly.
At what point is another company allowed to use another company's idea or technology without it being a 'rip'off'? Are you telling me that no other video game company can have wireless controllers because Nintendo put the Wavebird out first?
I know the PS3/motion sensitivity thing was kind of cheap, but give me a break. No one claimed Nintendo was ripping-off Sony when Nintendo finally went to a disc-based format over their cartridges. :ermm:
And, in the interest of saving space, let me just hit on your other points real quick....
I'd like the Wii classic controller to be wireless, but I doubt they'll do it. It'd probably make the controller bulkier, and more expensive.
Buy a Gamecube controller? Yes, I could do that, but my main point is that I shouldn't have to buy last-years controller to lplay this years game. If the Wii-classic will play it, and it's in-box, that's fine and dandy, but it seems strange to me that a company who's goal is to simplify gaming has already revealed four different controllers for their system (Wii-mote, Wii-mote with nunchuck, Wii classic, Wii Zapper).
And THAT brings me to my ultimate point. I am not anti-Nintendo. I love a lot of Nintendo's franchises, and I think the DS is actually the best next-gen option so far, for portables OR home systems. However, I'm not buying into Nintendo's Wii concept, not because it's new or Nintendo. This really is a revolutionary design, and it needs to be a home run, right out of the gate. In all honesty, I probably will get a Wii, unless something happens where the Wii-mote fails. I just don't think it's going to be the second coming of video games like Nintendo (and a lot of its fans) are trying to sell it to be. I think it'll be a neat system with a few good games that use the Wii-mote, and a lot of better games that use other methods of control...which kind of brings me back to my fear of having a big basket of Nintendo controllers hanging around. :p
FoxInStocks
05/16/2006, 10:17
Okay, I just realized that New Super Mario Brothers for the DS came out yesterday. Just ordered me a copy for store-pick up this afternoon. Glee!
ReZourceman
05/16/2006, 12:02
Okay, I just realized that New Super Mario Brothers for the DS came out yesterday. Just ordered me a copy for store-pick up this afternoon. Glee!
GASP! Sweet my local import shop'll probably have it next week....(which is coincidentally my first pay day!!!! :p )
And to touch on your points;
(Look at Smaugs "Rate my picture thread in another realm2)
Sony have copied a lot of Nintendos things, but honestly, its a good thing. I see Nintendo as the trend setters...which then becomes standard (ie, Analogue, rumble, wireless etc) And if the other companies didnt follow suite it woudlnt be good for them.
And I couldnt agree more it is pretty absurd that they would want you to buy an old gen controller for their new gen console, which is why i assume this wont be a requirment of SSB:B.
- More discussion tomorrow, its home time. ;)
I think the cord on the classic controller is a lot more likely to plug into the wireless Wiimote itself like all the other attachments. Having that thing dangling might be kinda weird though so I'd prefer a slight change.
And to hit that dead horse one more time, I still don't see where in the article it says the game will only be able to use the Gamecube controller. If anything, it points to the classic controller being bundled with the Wii, most likely along with the Nunchuck due to the number of games using that as well.
And that reminds me I need to check if NSMB is on sale over here. Gotta love the annoying few day delays living in Canada so they can package those useless French instructions.
Gentlegamer
05/16/2006, 18:29
Interesting insight into the comparitive development difficulties of xbox360 and PS3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW3Fh_ockT0&search=PS3%20Carmack
ReZourceman
05/17/2006, 09:37
Interesting insight into the comparitive development difficulties of xbox360 and PS3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW3Fh_ockT0&search=PS3%20Carmack
Dang, i hate how theres so many interesting video links peeps post...my works filters block them out.
Smaug317
05/17/2006, 14:05
And I couldnt agree more it is pretty absurd that they would want you to buy an old gen controller for their new gen console, which is why i assume this wont be a requirment of SSB:B.
See, now I LOVE that idea. The GC controllers work perfect for SSB. But, to increase sales I also doubt that it will be a requirment.
See, now I LOVE that idea. The GC controllers work perfect for SSB. But, to increase sales I also doubt that it will be a requirment.
I gotta agree. While it may be a deterring factor for consumers who don't already own a GC (which is not so bad, because they're the cheapest controllers out of the 3 current-gen consoles. Seriously, if you know a good store, you're buying the Nintendo brand for less than 15 bucks CURRENTLY, nevermind how much they'll cost when the Revolution is out), those of us who have grown accustomed to the controller will enjoy that freedom quite a bit.
FoxInStocks
05/17/2006, 22:51
This isn't really E3 news, but I don't want to make a DS thread for it 'cause it'd only be me, Thawmus, and ReZ anyhow:
New Super Mario Brothers is awesome. You should buy it if you have a DS.
Hey, it'd be me too. It is pretty damn awesome and completely worth the soaking I got walking home with it in the rain for 20 minutes. I don't believe in buses.
ReZourceman
05/18/2006, 04:18
This isn't really E3 news, but I don't want to make a DS thread for it 'cause it'd only be me, Thawmus, and ReZ anyhow:
New Super Mario Brothers is awesome. You should buy it if you have a DS.
Meh, theres four of us and Smaug to possibly get one...Ill setup a thread in a little bit.
- To confirm, I do love the idea of the Gamecube controllers for SSB:B, because those controllers were, the best...soooo comfy, im just saying its not fair to make it a requirement.
FoxInStocks
05/18/2006, 08:09
The best controller is still the N64. PS/2 is runner up for me.
Does anyone know id the xbox 360 is backwards compatible with xbox games?
Does anyone know id the xbox 360 is backwards compatible with xbox games?
Yep.
FoxInStocks
05/19/2006, 11:48
Does anyone know id the xbox 360 is backwards compatible with xbox games?
Actually, yes/no. It is compatible with SOME Xbox games, and only if you download a patch for each game you want to be able to play on the 360.
Smaug317
05/19/2006, 11:52
The best controller is still the N64. PS/2 is runner up for me.
Accually I think the N64 controller was the worst.
Best control = Gamecube, then Mouse/Keybored, then SNES.
FoxInStocks
05/19/2006, 12:13
Nah, the worst is and will always be the original Xbox controller.
Nah, the worst is and will always be the original Xbox controller.
hear hear.
It sure didn't take them long to develop the S. Now I don't think I see anyone using a fatty.
FoxInStocks
05/19/2006, 13:53
My brother still uses the fatty, but he's also a metro-hippie, so he uses a lot of old new things.
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