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So, our next film, Classic or Crud, Hit or Miss, what say you ALL?
Our next film open for discussion, and ultimately an Overall RATING by you all:
THE SHINING
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Let the discussions flow. Likes, dislikes, classic film or overhyped trash, and DONT FORGET to place an Overall Rating when youre done.
Its easy, just give a Rating from 1 (Jaws 4:The Revenge) to 10 (Jaws), and thats it. Course I'd love to have you all give reasons as to why you feel it deserves this Overall Rating, and more than encourage discussions with us all about them.
So, what say you all?
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EmperorNorton
05/31/2006, 08:55
Again a movie I have never seen.
ReZourceman
05/31/2006, 12:45
Again a movie I have never seen.
^^^^
Again a movie I have never seen.
So youve never seen The Terminator, Rocky or The Shining? These are some classic films of their genres, you should try and check them all out when you can.
St-Dumas
05/31/2006, 14:34
I've never seen it because I don't like horror movies. I'm just going to post this because someone has to:
"Heeeeere's Johnny!"
logansixx
05/31/2006, 17:28
One of the most overated "classics" ever to be seen. It's horribly overacted by Jack Nicklson, the kid who played Danny was one of the worst child actors ever and casting Scatman Crothers just makes me think of Hong Kong Phooey every time he says something. The only thing scary about this movie is how homely Shelly Duvall is. No, wait. Those twin girls were creepy also but that's it. The only thing I liked about this movie is Jack telling Shelly to give him the bat. Funny stuff. I also give it some points for helping create this masterpiece:
Shining - The Feel Good Movie of the Year (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/shining.html)
If you haven't seen it, don't bother. This is one Stanley Kubrick movie that I can do without.
3.0 out of 10.0
Prof. Aragorn
05/31/2006, 20:02
Shining - The Feel Good Movie of the Year (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/shining.html)
Awesome.
As far as the real movie, ehh, it was good but it wasn't Night of the Living Dead good.
Not a big fan of Stephen King - guy's kind of a hack in my opinion.
7.38 out of 10
Darth Sabre
05/31/2006, 20:48
Man this movie is better than any of the horror/thrillers you have listed up there IMHO. i remeber being a young lad watching this on HBO, and I was like in second grade-it scared the **** out of me! I couldn't get the twins out of my head for the longest time.
8.5
logansixx
05/31/2006, 21:38
Not a big fan of Stephen King - guy's kind of a hack in my opinion.
Then you should LOVE this movie since it bears very little resembalance to the book that it shares it's name with. It's one of the worst Stephen King adaptations ever. Maybe one of the reasons I hate this movie is that I really loved the book. It scared the hell out of me when I was in high school and the movie was just SO not the book. I know. I know. I hate people who say that too. Reminds me of the great Jim Gaffigan line, "Oh yeah. You know what I liked about the movie? No reading. Yeah. I was done in 2 hours."
However, in this case it is two completly different stories. One good and the other, well, you already know how I feel about the movie.
I haven't seen this movie since............ the 70's? The 70's?!?!?!??!
Holy bell bottom pants this movie is old........ and I was unimpressed by it then..... and stil unimpressed by it now.
I have to agree with whoever noted that everytime Scatman Crothers spoke he channelled Hong Kong Phooey. I did too!
4 and only because of the nice scenery. For a horror movie this wasn't scary at all.
petenbailey9
06/01/2006, 02:39
Man this movie is better than any of the horror/thrillers you have listed up there IMHO. i remeber being a young lad watching this on HBO, and I was like in second grade-it scared the **** out of me! I couldn't get the twins out of my head for the longest time.
8.5
It scared me when I was a little kid. Awhile back, I was flipping channels and came across it....Johnnie is right, the twins were the most unnerving part "come play with us............". The book was way better. Early Stephen King is far superior to the carp he is shoveling out these days, IMHO.
Elizabeth
Oh yeah, that frickin' kid bending his finger and croaking "redrum" was really annoying.
petenbailey9
06/01/2006, 02:47
Curses, forgot to rate it.....3/10.
Holy Cow these are harsh comments for what I feel is one of the Best Stephen King film adaptions ever! Not scary or creepy? You must have ice in your viens then. :) This movie did a great job of showing how the Overlook Hotel slowly weaved its web over Jack, turning him (as the father before him) into a cold blooded maniac killer, while making it look like he snapped thru cabin fever. It was only thru the help of his telepathic son did he not succeed in killing Danny, Wendy and himself in the end. The music did a great job in adding to the creep factor, and the ghostly twin girls appearing to Danny, "Come play with us Danny, forever and ever and ever....." while he sees their bloody and lifeless bodies in the hallway. Classic piece of horror cinema, no doubt. And yeah, its from the 70s, so what? Some of the best films in cinema history came out during this time as well (Godfather, Jaws, Star Wars, The Exorcist, etc.) A cool story, with acting I didnt mind at all, creepy music, and a very interesting ending, make me rate this quite high overall with an ending 8.50 / 10. I would easily recommend this one to any who havent seen it. Which it at night, with the lights out, and good sound, and youll get your scares in, no doubt about it.
I saw this movie when I was about 7 or 8 years old. Unedited. This was the first horror movie I ever saw. After watching this I was hooked on being scared. I would spend the rest of my life watching horror movie after horror movie to scare myself so I could feel the adrenaline rushing through me.
Needless to say, I also started doing crazy things just so I could get that adrenaline rush. I would go hiking in the woods behind my home at midnight without a flashlight. Every night I went I would try and go a little further.
As I got older and graduated college I took up skydiving and back in 2002 I even went running with the bulls during the San Fermin Festival in Pamplona, Spain. All to satisfy my need for adventure, excitement and the almighty adrenaline rush.
But, back to the movie at hand--
I read the book back in 1990-something. After reading the book I realized how bad the movie really was. And, by bad, I mean that the movie was so off what the story was really about and what happened.
Finally, it wasn't until I saw the made-for-TV version that I totally abandoned the Kubrich telling of The Shining.
Rating: 7.5/10
Another one I gotta drop in for.
Kubrick, my lord and savior, took another Stephen King book with a great first 7/8 and then a carp ending -- don't make me start naming the titles; I'm a big fan, but his strength is in short stories -- and completely twisted those words and the very light and shadow itself into a genuine work of art. Paranioid, claustophobic,and terrfying art.
Very simply, one of the best horror flicks ever.
barring anything, of course, directed by the Rukuz
10/10
Paranioid, claustophobic,and terrfying art.
Spelled 3 out of 5 of those words wrong.
Nice!
CURRENT HCR MEMBER RATING:
THE SHINING - 6.47 / 10
(8 members rating)
petenbailey9
06/01/2006, 16:08
Holy Cow these are harsh comments for what I feel is one of the Best Stephen King film adaptions ever! Not scary or creepy? You must have ice in your viens then. :)
I did get scared when I was a kid. Although I agree it's creepy, I'm not sure why this movie irritates me, perhaps it is because I liked the book so much better, or because I don't particularly care for Jack Nicholson.
Regarding Stephen King and films, the ones that I feel are excellent adaptations are The Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption, and Stand By Me. I also enjoyed Silver Bullet (it was a little cheesy but I still liked it). Carrie was also pretty good..Mrs. White, the crucifix in Carrie's closet, and Carrie's hand coming out from under ground to grab Sue Snell were pretty scary.
I would say that I do have ice in my veins at times (I can be downright b****y, especially when I'm PMS-ing :devious: )
Elizabeth
I did get scared when I was a kid. Although I agree it's creepy, I'm not sure why this movie irritates me, perhaps it is because I liked the book so much better, or because I don't particularly care for Jack Nicholson.
Regarding Stephen King and films, the ones that I feel are excellent adaptations are The Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption, and Stand By Me. I also enjoyed Silver Bullet (it was a little cheesy but I still liked it). Carrie was also pretty good..Mrs. White, the crucifix in Carrie's closet, and Carrie's hand coming out from under ground to grab Sue Snell were pretty scary.
I would say that I do have ice in my veins at times (I can be downright b****y, especially when I'm PMS-ing :devious: )
Elizabeth
Well consider me corrected. I guess I meant The Shining is one of the best Horror Stephen King movie adaptions, and yes, right up there with Carrie in my opinion, another truly great SK horror film. :)
CURRENT HCR MEMBER RATING:
THE SHINING - 6.47 / 10
(8 members rating)
More than a bit low for my taste for this one, but to each their own, so whateryagonnado. :) As always, this thread is Always Open, so if youve seen The Shining and want to add in your say so, please do.
monkeyshines
06/05/2006, 21:35
I did get scared when I was a kid. Although I agree it's creepy, I'm not sure why this movie irritates me, perhaps it is because I liked the book so much better, or because I don't particularly care for Jack Nicholson.
I think it's Nicholson, at times he crosses the creepy curve and enters into the unintentionally silly. Kubrick has style though and really captures supressed menace in his movies, and in showing the father's problems even before they arrive in the hotel, which nudges them for the worse.
7.5
lensnart
02/23/2007, 03:09
Maybe the scariest movie ever, every scene is terrifying thanks to amazing direction. Kubrick deserves all of the hype.
10 out of 10
Maybe the scariest movie ever, every scene is terrifying thanks to amazing direction. Kubrick deserves all of the hype.
10 out of 10
I gotta echo lensnart here.
Kubrick transformed a typical Stephen King novel -- a great read until about 13/15's of the way in when he fumbles with the ending -- and transformed it into a work of art.
Kubrick is a god.
10/10.
Another one I gotta drop in for.
Kubrick, my lord and savior, took another Stephen King book with a great first 7/8 and then a carp ending -- don't make me start naming the titles; I'm a big fan, but his strength is in short stories -- and completely twisted those words and the very light and shadow itself into a genuine work of art. Paranioid, claustophobic,and terrfying art.
Very simply, one of the best horror flicks ever.
barring anything, of course, directed by the Rukuz
10/10
I gotta echo lensnart here.
Kubrick transformed a typical Stephen King novel -- a great read until about 13/15's of the way in when he fumbles with the ending -- and transformed it into a work of art.
Kubrick is a god.
10/10.
Sorry bud, but as much as I want ratings on these RtM threads, I cant go counting single votes twice now. :)
Sorry bud, but as much as I want ratings on these RtM threads, I cant go counting single votes twice now. :)
Get a load of me. All confused in the wee morning hours! :laugh:
and obviously (7/8 and 13/15) my rap on stephen king is getting old!
Great film, I remember being scared when I was younger when the "here's Johnny" scene was played on some TV programme, it wasn't until years later that I saw the film itself. There are many things to like about this film, a couple of which are the great atmosphere of the empty place, very spooky in itself (for me anyway), and the "all work and no play". I'll help restore order to the average by giving this a deserved 9/10.
spacedye
10/23/2007, 23:55
Wow! I'm surprised by this low rating. I just saw this movie for the first time tonight, and I thought it was pretty good. Some bits made no sense, and parts moved along too quickly, but overall the movie kicks some ###. Visually it is gorgeous. And of course Nicholson is amazing in it.
8.5/10
monkeyshines
10/25/2007, 16:59
Some bits made no sense, and parts moved along too quickly, but overall the movie kicks some ###. Visually it is gorgeous. And of course Nicholson is amazing in it.
8.5/10
What didn't make sense, I thought it was pretty straightforward myself.
Ive got to admit, I found the Very End a bit confusing. Jacks face pictured loud and proud on the wall, dated back to the 20s. That supposed to mean he was reincarnated into his current 70s body to do the same thing all over again?
That supposed to mean he was reincarnated into his current 70s body to do the same thing all over again?
Maybe. To show that he was doomed to do it, or that the curse on the hotel expands over time and knows no end, maybe.
Actually, I thought I had already rated this one, though I won't do it tonight, it's been too long I watched it: I don't want to leave an inaccurate rating here. I'll try to watch it this week-end, and rate it then.
Also, I will make a movie playlist with all the RTM movies I can easily access and haven't rated yet. It's been too long I haven't rated anything here :).
monkeyshines
10/27/2007, 05:39
Ive got to admit, I found the Very End a bit confusing. Jacks face pictured loud and proud on the wall, dated back to the 20s. That supposed to mean he was reincarnated into his current 70s body to do the same thing all over again?
I thought it meant that his spirit had been trapped into the evil history of the house. Remember how the twins wanted to keep his son forever and ever.
Could be, like I said, I never fully got the ending ending to this film (still a Great horror movie overall though, and like more than a few on our main RtM list, one Im surprised and disappointed has such a low overall rating)
Rokk_Krinn
11/07/2007, 14:37
Ive got to admit, I found the Very End a bit confusing. Jacks face pictured loud and proud on the wall, dated back to the 20s. That supposed to mean he was reincarnated into his current 70s body to do the same thing all over again?
It's been awhile since I've seen it, but I believe the photo was shown earlier in the movie and Jack wasn't in it, so I always took it as the Overlook had claimed him.
Heh...just realized the humour of Dan(ny) and Wendy being stalked by Jack. :laugh:
Anyway, I'm surprised to see I never rated this film. I remember a baby-sitter forcing me to watch this with her way back when I was a tyke and the scene that got me was the "rotted costume-ball go'ers" in the random room. It didn't help that my older brother always used to like to point out to me that the Stanley Hotel that we were frequently staying at was the place from the movie (kind-of). Took me quite a few years before I watched this again but I was happy I did as it's pure Kubrick mastery. While Jack may now be a satire of himself these days, back then he wasn't at that stage yet and could still pull off the role. The rest of the cast - I miss Scatman :( - was also excellent. Cinematography was outstanding, the pacing worked (especially for its' time period), etc. - all in all, one of my favourite films these days. It helps that I'm a sucker for "haunted house" movies and this one features - kind-of - a place that I love. :laugh:
Rating: 10/10
I'm also surprised I haven't rated this film. It earns a 9/10 from me, here is why:
The filmis not an adaptation of a Stephen King novel. Instead the film is a story about domestic violence that uses the elements of the novel to tell the story. Let's face it...not many of the Stephen King novels are really "about" anything, yet in this case Kubrick definitely managed to make something here.
Rokk_Krinn
11/07/2007, 23:06
I dunno, the novel was a pretty solid read into domestic violence and alcoholism. The whole reason they were going to the hotel was because Jack couldn't get a job after he injured a student (he was a teacher) and his alcoholism led him to break Danny's arm (albeit accidentally but it's what sobered him up; that and almost losing his wife). Much of the book delves heavily into both of those issues.
Truffle Shuffle
12/11/2007, 22:04
One of the best. Certainly the best "Stephen King" movie. And Jack Nicholson was in top form. redrum, redrum
9/10
Just brilliant :knockedou.
The story is good, though not particularly innovative (note: I've read the book only once, and I don't remember it quite well, nor what the differences between the two were), but everything in the movie serves it right.
The acting is just excellent. Nicholson is just creepy, Shelley Duvall plays her part nicely, and even Danny Lloyd is great (while I generally dislike kid actors).
The music is excellent too. Slow and heavy instrumentals, associated with carefully placed deafening noises stretch the time and suspense to an almost unbearable intensity (not so sure my sentence can be understood, I have trouble finding the right words here).
The cinematography is excellent (yes, once again :p ). The Timberline Lodge was just the perfect place to shoot it, it gave great visuals: compared to the grandeur of the hotel, the humans just look insignifiant (I mean, everything is huge in the hotel, even the desk on which Jack tries to write). The exploitation of the perspectives was especially impressive, belittling the characters, and giving the feeling they're completely trapped in and by the hotel.
I reread some of the reviews made here before watching the movie last night, and was a little afraid because some of the critics here were harsh. I don't agree at all with them - no disrespect meant, guys (to each his own, right? ).
'nuff said,
10/10.
P.S.: my personal take on the picture (and this is just my opinion): I think it has always been here, picturing Jack where he truly belongs (and for that matter, I also think all the people on the pics have been "eaten" by the hotel); when Grady tells Jack that he's always been the caretaker here, I think it meant Jack was doomed to come to this place and be a part of it (besides, notice how he instantly know the name of the bartender). Just my two cents.
One of the few Kubrick films I actually enjoy. I love the shining. Top notch performances from Nicholson and Duvall.
8/10
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