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CurBludgeon
01/19/2007, 14:58
DC Division Week 6 Preview:

It’s Week 6 and the regular season is going out with a bang! Every single one of these games could potentially have playoff ramifications, as 11 teams scrap for the remaining 4 (or will it be 5?) playoff spots. So without further ado, here are this week’s games.

Judges (2-3) vs The Society (1-4)

It’s a battle of the sneers between Dr. Light and Dredd. The Society find themselves playing spoiler against the surging Judges, who must win this (and decisively) to have a chance to make the playoffs. Despite their struggles, I’m still convinced that the Society have the base for a strong, contending team, something I didn’t think could have been said for the Judges. Yet, the latter took down Tenk’s Young Justice, and they’ve got ample motivation to do the same here.

My pick? Lex is taking a break from this one, so no chance for him to hide into soaring if the Society take an early lead. However, look for Professor Zoom to work on “improving” the Judge’s finesse pieces before they can take down too much of his teammates. The Society get the last laugh and strike a pose.

Teen Titans (3-2) vs JLE (1-4)

While this is more of a “would like to win” than a “must win” for the Titans, they could find themselves out of the playoff hunt if the JLE beat them badly.



If I can’t say anything nice, I’ll just move to…

My pick? The Titans enter the playoffs, but not before Peers gets off some nice story posting. :nervous:

BRPD (1-4) vs Outsiders (4-1)

Really only one thing that matters for this game: Will Iceman show up? If I’m Chiles, I’m checking the other play-by-post leagues a lot during the next two weeks, while Turtle gives the Outsiders as much a chance as legally possible to claim their playoff reward. But that third week? Whether it be the manager or a designated sub, there’s going to be a lot of catch-up to be done, even if it’s only to gain some stats.

My pick? All I’m saying is, watch out for Dustin Hoffman and glass walls in churches. As for the game itself? Look for the BPRD to counter the Outsiders’ team stealth with a bit of help from the Kabuki girls. Hellboy and co. in an upset.

Injustice League (2-3) vs Young Justice (4-1)

Pity the Injustice League (but don’t tell them about it, lest Despero get all indignant and murderous in your grill). Not only do they suffer some of the most frustrating dice rolls a team could hope to see, but now, in order to make good on their slim playoff hopes, they get to face Young Justice. See, of the 11 teams in the DC Division that could finish 3-3, the IJL is ranked 9th. They need to win this game big in order to leapfrog to the playoff seats. Pre-Buster-Douglas Mike Tyson big. And Young Justice? Think of them as the consummate skills boxer: they’re not going to win a lot by KO, but if they can last to the judge’s table, you’re likely out of luck.

My pick? Young Justice eeks out on points again.

Sentinels Of Magic (4-1) vs Dark Judges (2-3)

The Dark Judges are in similar shoes to the IJL. Only they’re 10th out of 11 potential 3-3 teams. And they’re facing a team that has won their last couple of games by large margins. The Dark Judges showcased a swarm team last round, hoping to overwhelm the JSA. Whatever method they try, they’ll need a lot of points to slip into the playoffs.

My pick? The Sentinels aid the Dark Judges in their quest to get top draft pick for evil-aligned Indy teams, whatever that’s worth.

Legion Of Super Heroes (5-0) vs Green Lantern Corp (2-3)

And we come to team number 11. Out of 11 potential 3-3 teams. And they get to face the toughest of the bunch thus far: the undefeated Legionnaires. Sorry, Orko, I’m just not seeing it, short of the LoSH calling a no-contest to prevent any injuries as they enter the playoffs.

My pick? 6-0 for the Legion as they cruise into the playoffs, looking for some unsuspecting 3-3 team to beat up.

Games of the Week:

Yep, we’ve got three of ‘em. Because every single one of them is a must-win or must-not-lose-badly, in the case of the 3-2 squads.

Batman Enemies (3-2) vs Secret 6 (2-3)

On one hand, you’ve got a returning team from last season that took down Galactus, a dangerous theme team with a skilled player, and its lead figure: Joker, got injured last match. On the other hand, you’ve got the scrappy upstarts (which is also nicely thematic), who have fought hard in every match they’ve been in, giving trouble to the IJL, LoSH, and JLI, and defeated the Judges and the Society. (Thawmus may want to consider giving his team an acronym, considering that history). If there’s one thing on the Rogues Gallery’s side, they’re facing a team with almost as little mobility as they have. This one’s going to be a down and dirty brawl.

My pick? Much as I’ve been impressed by the 6’s showing this season, their games don’t tend to result in 700-100 victory margins. They’ll have to be aggressive to pull this one off, and between the Radiation Leak BFC and Clayface doing everything he can to keep them tied down, I don’t see it happening. Batman Enemies.

JLI (2-3) vs JLA (3-2)

To give you an idea of how much this league has changed in one season, these two squads were the class of the DC Division last year, going a combined 11-1 in the regular season. So the likelihood that one (and possibly two) of these teams might not make the playoffs is all the more surprising. (Perhaps even more surprising than the fact that neither of the two Justice League teams have a Superman or Batman). Parentheticals aside, these are both similar squads, featuring strong front-line characters with excellent supporting casts. The major difference is Hal Jordan’s injured; Captain Atom’s not. Side note: this week’s introduction of the new maps places this one in the Watchtower. Fitting, no?

My pick? Between the injury and the Telekinetic Strain BFC, the JLI make the playoff push even closer as they even their records to 3-3.

JSA (2-3) vs Fatal Five (2-3)

While the JSA may be in the catbird seat heading into this game, they’re facing a Fatal Five squad that dismantled the Batman Enemies last week. Facing a plethora of Outwit, Stepper goes with Fortitude on Captain Marvel. Unfortunately for Doc Mid-Nite and Mr. Terrific, Bright Lights makes their abilities all too vulnerable against this squad.

My pick? It’s a close one, but Captain Marvel manages to take down more of the Fatal Five than they can of his teammates.

Free Bonus Section!

While it's absolutely worthless, this section indicates final standings should my predictions bear out, complete with guesstimated Victory Points!

Team W L Victory Points
LoSH 6 0 3,162
Sentinels of Magic 5 1 3,172
Young Justice 5 1 2,305
Teen Titans 4 2 2,638
Batman Enemies 4 2 2,566
The Outsiders 4 2 2,343
JSA 3 3 2,555
JLA 3 3 2,236
==============================================================
JLI 3 3 2,191
==============================================================
The Judges 2 4 1,998
Secret Six 2 4 1,961
Fatal Five 2 4 1,876
Injustice League 2 4 1,696
The Society 2 4 1,676
Dark Judges 2 4 1,562
BPRD 2 4 1,535
Green Lantern Corp 2 4 1,239
JLE 1 5 1,181

Red = Playoff Line of Death
Blue = Playoff Line of Hoping Iceman Doesn’t Show

Thawmus
01/19/2007, 15:09
How come I can't type in a location for my save file on the maps?

Has anyone else had trouble with this?

rouge2
01/19/2007, 15:11
DC Division Week 6 Preview:


My pick? The Sentinels aid the Dark Judges in their quest to get top draft pick for evil-aligned Indy teams, whatever that’s worth.

You're so funny (I'm the only Evil Indy Team for those who didn't realise).

Prepare to be Judged!

Peers
01/19/2007, 15:17
How come I can't type in a location for my save file on the maps?

Has anyone else had trouble with this?

Yeah, it's not working yet, I don't think.

MSU
01/19/2007, 15:32
Nice write up Cur! I want to face the Sentinels and the JSA in the playoffs though. The JSA just cause I think Stepper and I would have fun. The sentinels for my season long revenge....so far, my plan has been working perfectly. :cheeky:

(there isn't an evil smiley....)

evil :grin: ? Does that work?

TMNT99
01/19/2007, 15:33
So here's the big question..

Who would like to go to WWLA but can't afford to?

I'm willing to pay convention fee to get in, and give money to buy Fing Fang Foom if someone wants to attend in my place.

All you gotta do is send me the Fing Fang Foom and other Con exclusive Clix

Any takers?

Thawmus
01/19/2007, 15:37
Nice write up Cur! I want to face the Sentinels and the JSA in the playoffs though. The JSA just cause I think Stepper and I would have fun. The sentinels for my season long revenge....so far, my plan has been working perfectly. :cheeky:

(there isn't an evil smiley....)

evil :grin: ? Does that work?

:devious:

There it is!

MSU
01/19/2007, 15:37
I wish I could go...I have to work. :(

I will be going to WWE though...and then WWC. And then mostly like the convention that happens after WWC...Gen? Origins? I get them confused.

MSU
01/19/2007, 15:39
:devious:

There it is!

Thanks Thawmus!

ahem

Nice write up Cur! I want to face the Sentinels and the JSA in the playoffs though. The JSA just cause I think Stepper and I would have fun. The sentinels for my season long revenge....so far, my plan has been working perfectly. :devious:

GL4Life
01/19/2007, 15:40
Yeah I'll be at WWE FINALLY this year. Every previous year its fallen on my wife's birthday weekend.

Whats the deal with the maps? Is there something specific you have to do? I saw about the Watchtower being a new map and didn't realize we had new maps so I went to look, but its brining up the same map for me no matter which link I click and I can't modify anything on it.

TMNT99
01/19/2007, 15:42
Yeah I'll be at WWE FINALLY this year. Every previous year its fallen on my wife's birthday weekend.

Whats the deal with the maps? Is there something specific you have to do? I saw about the Watchtower being a new map and didn't realize we had new maps so I went to look, but its brining up the same map for me no matter which link I click and I can't modify anything on it.

I'm not having that problem, however, if you can't use the maps, let me know and I'll set a map on the original creationmatrix for you.

CurBludgeon
01/19/2007, 15:46
Thanks Thawmus!

ahem

Nice write up Cur! I want to face the Sentinels and the JSA in the playoffs though. The JSA just cause I think Stepper and I would have fun. The sentinels for my season long revenge....so far, my plan has been working perfectly. :devious:

I'll have to get out of the first round of the playoffs first, and looking at the Division, that's no guarantee. :speechles

MSU
01/19/2007, 15:48
I'll have to get out of the first round of the playoffs first, and looking at the Division, that's no guarantee. :speechles

Ain't that the truth...if your predictions win out, I will have to face a bitter Tanis. Maybe his Hal will get injured again in this game? One can hope, right? LOL

GL4Life
01/19/2007, 15:50
Yea its bringing up the training base for every link, and it has two fields I can type in, but they don't do anything unless i just don;t know what to type in. This probably has something to do with my walk firewall.

TMNT99
01/19/2007, 15:52
Yea its bringing up the training base for every link, and it has two fields I can type in, but they don't do anything unless i just don;t know what to type in. This probably has something to do with my walk firewall.

It's ok, you're on one of the old maps anyways.

vicious x
01/19/2007, 16:07
if people turn in their lineups later on today or if the last of game 5 games end late today would we see game 6 up tomorrow? or monday, just wondering but to tell you the truth I don't think x-factor v wca will finish at all sorry RC

TMNT99
01/19/2007, 16:15
if people turn in their lineups later on today or if the last of game 5 games end late today would we see game 6 up tomorrow? or monday, just wondering but to tell you the truth I don't think x-factor v wca will finish at all sorry RC

Monday, if possible, I try not to get on during the weekends. I figure 40 hours a week on the net is sufficent

Jackofhearts2005
01/19/2007, 16:18
Thanks Thawmus!

ahem

Nice write up Cur! I want to face the Sentinels and the JSA in the playoffs though. The JSA just cause I think Stepper and I would have fun. The sentinels for my season long revenge....so far, my plan has been working perfectly. :devious:
MSU, only evil aligned teams are aloud to use the devious smiley. :sleep:

JacinB
01/19/2007, 16:24
That's not exactly right ... :devious:

Peers
01/19/2007, 16:26
I'd love to go to WWLA... but living where I am, the airfare is insane... plus, leaving the wife and kid for a weekend to game just won't cut it with them. I'm lucky I can get four hours on Saturday nights to hit the local venue...

Tanis11
01/19/2007, 16:50
Ain't that the truth...if your predictions win out, I will have to face a bitter Tanis. Maybe his Hal will get injured again in this game? One can hope, right? LOL

*shakes fist at you*

You'll get yours!! ;)

Tanis11
01/19/2007, 16:53
I'd love to go to WWLA... but living where I am, the airfare is insane... plus, leaving the wife and kid for a weekend to game just won't cut it with them. I'm lucky I can get four hours on Saturday nights to hit the local venue...


I would love to go as well...last year was AWESOME...but alas...my wife's expected due date for our second child is February 20...so even if she gives birth two weeks before...I don't think she'd let me go have fun and play clix while she's at home with an infant and a 1 and a half year old. :O

*sigh*

I can only hope for Comic Con.....*crosses fingers* but there's not a lot of heroclix gaming there. :(

RobotCowboy
01/19/2007, 16:57
if people turn in their lineups later on today or if the last of game 5 games end late today would we see game 6 up tomorrow? or monday, just wondering but to tell you the truth I don't think x-factor v wca will finish at all sorry RC

Not a problem. I can wait.

zakiszak
01/19/2007, 17:04
Speaking of WWLA, I live in LA and can offer a futon to anyone looking for a place to crash. I'm in the valley but near the subway, so it zips us right to the convention center without having to park (although you then have to carry your Fin Fang Foom all day)

Stepper79
01/19/2007, 17:10
A little off topic but I know there are a few Joe Fans here



January 18, 2007
Announcing the 25th Anniversary Celebration of G.I. JOE VS. COBRA!

This summer, Hasbro will release 25 collectible 3 3/4" figures to celebrate the 25th Anniversary of G.I. JOE VS. COBRA.

In the coming weeks, the first 10 figures will be revealed, here at GIJOE.com. Check back daily and see the exclusive debut of these 25th Anniversary Figures.

Sure to delight fans both new and old, 25th Anniversary Figures are all new sculpts and the most detailed and articulated G.I. JOE figures ever!

Tanis11
01/19/2007, 17:15
A little off topic but I know there are a few Joe Fans here

Ooooh...I wonder how much they're gonna cost...and new sculpts? Nice...;)

Yo Joe!

Jpuffy
01/19/2007, 17:48
Quick rules Question:

Does tk range start from the tker or from the person being tked? So could someone end up 11 spaces from the tker if they started in front of the tker?

Hopefully this makes sense:)

Tanis11
01/19/2007, 17:51
Quick rules Question:

Does tk range start from the tker or from the person being tked? So could someone end up 11 spaces from the tker if they started in front of the tker?

Hopefully this makes sense:)

It is from the object or person in front of the tker and yes they could end up 11 spaces in front of the tker as long as the tker has line of sight.

Peers
01/19/2007, 17:54
Quick rules Question:

Does tk range start from the tker or from the person being tked? So could someone end up 11 spaces from the tker if they started in front of the tker?

Hopefully this makes sense:)

I believe you're allowed to move whatever you're moving ten squares. So yes, if you start out 1 square away from the TKer, you'd finish up to 11 squares away.

zakiszak
01/19/2007, 17:55
Correct, LOS of the TKer, distance of the TKee

Tanis11
01/19/2007, 17:58
Ha! Beat you all! ;)

*sigh*

I'm bored...come on GreatArelius!! ;)

*peers around searching for something*

Come out, come out, wherever you are!

Peers
01/19/2007, 18:02
*peers around searching for something*

Come out, come out, wherever you are!

I'm right here.

MSU
01/19/2007, 18:10
*shakes fist at you*

You'll get yours!! ;)

Do you want me to curse you again?

(brings out book of curses)

I would be nice to me....:laugh:

zakiszak
01/19/2007, 18:20
No match till Monday? But...I'm so special!

I am wigging out about game 6. Sinister 6 might be the first match I've had since the pre-season where I didn't out number my opponent. I have a shot at playoffs if I lose, but I WANT TO WIN! KAAAZZZIIIIGUUUUMMM!

MSU
01/19/2007, 18:25
Yeah, I have no match until monday either (:()

THis means extra beatings for the GLC!!!!!

Tanis11
01/19/2007, 18:33
Do you want me to curse you again?

(brings out book of curses)

I would be nice to me....:laugh:

Hey! That's my spiel!

Are you stealin my gig? ;)

Tanis11
01/19/2007, 18:34
I'm right here.

Oh THERE you ARE...okay now to find GreatArelius...

*LOOKS around searching for something*

;P

;)

Chiles
01/19/2007, 18:37
So....hmmm, how bout them Bears? *twiddle* ;)

VanceMadrox
01/19/2007, 19:59
Wrong thread. Ifnore post :-)

Stepper79
01/19/2007, 21:30
images of the question and hawkman

http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/629/cat/500/ppuser/3307

MSU
01/19/2007, 22:13
images of the question and hawkman

http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/629/cat/500/ppuser/3307

Question looks awesome!

But I have a question...why is Shazam not flying??????

Tanis11
01/19/2007, 22:25
Question looks awesome!

But I have a question...why is Shazam not flying??????

Hopefully that's just a prototype and they didn't have a chance to put on the flight stand...hopefully *crosses fingers*

Jackofhearts2005
01/20/2007, 00:10
That better be the case, because last time I checked, flying is a major thing for Captain Marvel.

JacinB
01/20/2007, 00:47
Yeah, it's kinda sorta part of what he does.

doobie711
01/20/2007, 01:12
We need a ruling in the ironman rogues/brotherhood game as soon as possible. Does Bullseye have LOS on Spiral and does destiny have los on bullseye? Thanks.

Jpuffy
01/20/2007, 01:13
We need a ruling in the ironman rogues/brotherhood game as soon as possible. Does Bullseye have LOS on Spiral and does destiny have los on bullseye? Thanks.

You beat me by like a second:p

doobie711
01/20/2007, 01:19
You beat me by like a second:p

Hoping we get a ruling tonight man because weekend's gonna be pretty busy. Got traffic shool tommorrow. Got a ticket for going 40!!! Okay, so it was in a 25 but it was 1 in the morning and it's only 40 mph!!! Then gotta take my girlfriend out tommorrow night. Then sunday playing poker and watching the playoffs. So not sure when i'm gonna have time to post. Maybe sunday night, if we can't get finished before then.

Tanis11
01/20/2007, 02:35
Wow, Turtle's on pretty late tonight...that's a first...or maybe it's a second. ;)

TMNT99
01/20/2007, 03:05
Wow, Turtle's on pretty late tonight...that's a first...or maybe it's a second. ;)

I'm doing an all-nighter with my youth group as a fund raiser, they set me up with a computer for some video editing that I've been wanting to get done.

TMNT99
01/20/2007, 03:10
Febuary prizes showed up today.

My players came by and were pretty awestruck by Nathaniel Richards. I like Genis-Vel myself.

MSU
01/20/2007, 13:22
Hey! That's my spiel!

Are you stealin my gig? ;)

Wow....I mean....that game with GA....wow.

Tanis11
01/20/2007, 14:11
Wow....I mean....that game with GA....wow.

*sigh*

*looks at game*

*bigger sigh*

MSU
01/20/2007, 14:16
It was a good season Tanis! You aren't out of it yet...And now GA is SO in the running point wise with that Vendetta against Hal.

Ugh....the lineups just got more messy. Now the 2-3 teams trying to clinch their third win HAVE to win big....

Tanis11
01/20/2007, 14:21
It was a good season Tanis! You aren't out of it yet...And now GA is SO in the running point wise with that Vendetta against Hal.

Ugh....the lineups just got more messy. Now the 2-3 teams trying to clinch their third win HAVE to win big....

Yeah actually that pretty much put him ahead of me if Cur's predictions are correct..but then again, I don't think I'll be making much points in this game...Ah well...now to look towards next season...darn, I'll only be able to keep three people now...that's gonna be a tough decision...:O

MSU
01/20/2007, 14:22
But if Iceman doesn't show up, you could take that "9th" spot. Nothing is over until week 6 is done.

Tanis11
01/20/2007, 14:26
But if Iceman doesn't show up, you could take that "9th" spot. Nothing is over until week 6 is done.

I doubt it...I'm not gonna score a lot of points and I'm sure there's going to another 3-3 team that'll score a lot of points...I very doubt I'm gonna make it.

tenketsu
01/20/2007, 16:48
I am still having an awful lot of trouble making out the new maps, even using Full Screen. I've tried monkeying with my resolution, and that didn't help either. Any suggestions?

MSU
01/20/2007, 16:49
Get a bigger screen?

:grin:

da-Craig-O
01/20/2007, 18:13
I doubt it...I'm not gonna score a lot of points and I'm sure there's going to another 3-3 team that'll score a lot of points...I very doubt I'm gonna make it.


No offense to the JLI, but I was really hoping you would win. Even if I DO win my game, you still lead me by 300 points going into week 6. You still sit in a pretty good position to make the playoffs.

Of course, a week from now, Prof. Zoom will be standing over a heap of bodies and all of my hopes and dreams will be for naught. That's okay though. I'm playing the Judges from cripes sake. :laugh:

Jackofhearts2005
01/20/2007, 20:10
Of course, a week from now, Prof. Zoom will be standing over a heap of bodies
Sounds like a good thing to me. :noid:

Oh, and Mr. Zolomon perfers to be called "Zoom" as to distiguish him from the other guy. ;)

Tanis11
01/21/2007, 03:09
No offense to the JLI, but I was really hoping you would win. Even if I DO win my game, you still lead me by 300 points going into week 6. You still sit in a pretty good position to make the playoffs.

Of course, a week from now, Prof. Zoom will be standing over a heap of bodies and all of my hopes and dreams will be for naught. That's okay though. I'm playing the Judges from cripes sake. :laugh:

You weren't the only one hoping for the win. ;) But alas...Imperv, Shape Change, and Super Sense rolls have been the bane of my life these last three games...I have rolled three or four of the above powers in my last three games. I rolled Imperv 3 times on Despero, Shape Change 3 times with Cham, and Super Senses 3 times with Flash and Elongated Man...can anyone top that? ;) I think I'm a pretty good contender for the most Imperv, Shape Change, and Super Sense rolled Award. Vote for Tanis11!! ;)

vicious x
01/21/2007, 16:42
can someone post for mikey in my x-factor v wca game,.... he hasn't been on for a few days and will be busy for the rest of the weekend, I just need one more move before the game ends,... so if someone can post for him that would be very very helpful


thanks

LeeMac38
01/21/2007, 16:50
can someone post for mikey in my x-factor v wca game,.... he hasn't been on for a few days and will be busy for the rest of the weekend, I just need one more move before the game ends,... so if someone can post for him that would be very very helpful


thanks


i don't mind doing that if it is allowed. nevermind.

vicious x
01/21/2007, 16:56
yeah I don't know if a marvel guy can do it, but its really simple, clear strong guy and either move wildchild out of stealth or keep him there. but thanks

Jackofhearts2005
01/21/2007, 16:58
Just checking, but does this turn end the game? Cause if you're gonna finish out, I'd move WC so he can attack next turn, but if you still get another turn and Mikey doesn't, theres no reason to move WC out of stealth, where he can be attacked.

EDIT: Nevermind

zakiszak
01/21/2007, 19:44
Ok, game 6 starts up tomorrow, the fight for the playoffs will officially be on

MSU
01/21/2007, 21:21
I hope Game 6 will be up...some games are almost done and I have no idea what field I am playing on!

GreatArelius1
01/21/2007, 21:27
Dont worry MSU, you'll get your game. Plus I might get a chance to smack around your young whipper-snappers team LoSH :)

The Vision
01/21/2007, 21:59
Got a question about the Alignment rule.

The New Thunderbolts by Warren Ellis going to include both good guys: Songbird and bad guys: everyone else.

So would this be a legal team? For it to be 100% comic accurate you would include both good and bad characters...so???

Melkhor
01/21/2007, 22:06
Got a question about the Alignment rule.

The New Thunderbolts by Warren Ellis going to include both good guys: Songbird and bad guys: everyone else.

So would this be a legal team? For it to be 100% comic accurate you would include both good and bad characters...so???

*Looks at Gambit, standing with an uncomfortable look on his face, surrounded by his team-mates Mr. Sinister, Sabretooth, Vertigo and Harpoon*

"Would you care to answer this question Monsiur LeBeau?" :)

GreatArelius1
01/21/2007, 22:15
Well you would have to declare good or bad alignment when you pick the team but you could draft only those related to your team that break the alignement rule.

MSU
01/21/2007, 22:32
Dont worry MSU, you'll get your game. Plus I might get a chance to smack around your young whipper-snappers team LoSH :)

Smack them around? No no, my dear...the only smacking that will be going on will be your forehead on the keyboard in total frustration.

The Vision
01/21/2007, 22:33
*Looks at Gambit, standing with an uncomfortable look on his face, surrounded by his team-mates Mr. Sinister, Sabretooth, Vertigo and Harpoon*

"Would you care to answer this question Monsiur LeBeau?" :)

Good to see that the precedent has been set.



Morph: "Hey Heather! What are the chances of bringing King Hyperion back to the team??"

WakandaMan
01/22/2007, 00:00
I am also having trouble opening the new maps, which is extremely upsetting since I've been clamouring for more map choices since day one. I prefer to set them up at home anyway, so could someone please tell me which map is "Marvel 1" and what side the grid co-ordingates run along?

feluwelt
01/22/2007, 00:08
try using the firefox explorer, thats what I use its a free download an it has no problems with teh new maps

rouge2
01/22/2007, 08:07
I am still having an awful lot of trouble making out the new maps, even using Full Screen. I've tried monkeying with my resolution, and that didn't help either. Any suggestions?

Firefox. ;)

Edit: Sorry I was replying two pages back and didn't see Fel's response above.

WakandaMan
01/22/2007, 08:08
I was getting the same problem that one of our other Leaguers was haivng- everytime I tried to open it it only brought up the Training Facility (a custom map) and no other options. Then I worked it out- the work computer I was using has an old Flash player. If you get that problem, you need to upgrade your Flash player guys.

I have dial-up at home and it takes over 10 minutes to load but at least it works. It's worth it for new maps! TMNT, would it be possible for you to write a brief description of the map when you post the link so I don't have to wait forever to find out what it is? ie:

Marvel 1 (The Shopping Mall)

:)

tenketsu
01/22/2007, 08:34
Firefox. ;)

Edit: Sorry I was replying two pages back and didn't see Fel's response above.

No problem. Actually, I do use Firefox and the maps are still tiny... Eventually I figured out that if I turned up the resolution so that everything else was hard to see, I could see the maps mostly fine if I got real close to the screen and squinted.

I hesitate to call it an optimum solution, but it's something, at least.

TMNT99
01/22/2007, 09:01
Hey, if you happen to be playing on Marvel 1- Marvel 4, OAP 1 OAP 2, DCA DCB, DC C, DCD, IAP 1, IAP 2, or Heroix, just ask your opponent to use the old creation matrix.

That didn't die folk :p

rouge2
01/22/2007, 09:09
No problem. Actually, I do use Firefox and the maps are still tiny... Eventually I figured out that if I turned up the resolution so that everything else was hard to see, I could see the maps mostly fine if I got real close to the screen and squinted.

I hesitate to call it an optimum solution, but it's something, at least.

Very Strange. Did you upgrade your Flash player as Wakanda Man suggested? Have you tried the "Zoom in" feature (right click anywhere on the board and select "Zoom In")? Mine are showing up perfectly (1024 X 768 resolution).

tenketsu
01/22/2007, 09:30
Very Strange. Did you upgrade your Flash player as Wakanda Man suggested? Have you tried the "Zoom in" feature (right click anywhere on the board and select "Zoom In")? Mine are showing up perfectly (1024 X 768 resolution).

Unless there've been some major Flash changes in the last couple months, I'm current on that... And, Zoom In at this resolution makes things pretty easy to see (although to get tokens or see coordinates and such that way I would have to constantly Zoom In and Zoom Out), but at the original resolution I had it didn't seem to help much at all.

GL4Life
01/22/2007, 09:56
My work firewall won't let me download a newer version of Flash. I've tried before for other things. Oh well.

kontrol
01/22/2007, 10:09
My work firewall won't let me download a newer version of Flash. I've tried before for other things. Oh well.
My work firewall won't either. I'm stuck using the old maps at work and the new ones at home.

CurBludgeon
01/22/2007, 10:10
My work firewall won't let me download a newer version of Flash. I've tried before for other things. Oh well.

As a last resort, you can ask for a screenshot of the map. Getting one posted for reference's sake shouldn't be too hard.

rouge2
01/22/2007, 10:14
As a last resort, you can ask for a screenshot of the map. Getting one posted for reference's sake shouldn't be too hard.

Or take the time to download Cyberboard (The HeroClix scenario has the same maps and co-ordinates). I'll repost links later today.

CurBludgeon
01/22/2007, 10:18
Or take the time to download Cyberboard (The HeroClix scenario has the same maps and co-ordinates). I'll repost links later today.

Dunno how much d/ling it will help if it requires a Flash upgrade their computers can't get.

TMNT99
01/22/2007, 10:19
If you can not use the new boards, send me a PM

GL4Life
01/22/2007, 10:36
I can use the new boards at home though so I'll just have to readjust my schedule at home so I can post daily from there if I'm on a new map.

Stepper79
01/22/2007, 10:56
using the updated maps OAP1 are q-13 and 14 adjacent Q-13 is the top of the stairs??

CurBludgeon
01/22/2007, 11:16
using the updated maps OAP1 are q-13 and 14 adjacent Q-13 is the top of the stairs??

Doesn't look like there are stairs at all at Q13 and 14. The only stairs on OAP1 are at D13 and E13.

Peers
01/22/2007, 11:21
using the updated maps OAP1 are q-13 and 14 adjacent Q-13 is the top of the stairs??

Assuming you mean Q12 and Q13... no, that's just sidewalk, not stairs. If it were an indoor/outdoor map, that'd be the front door of the house... or maybe a garage... but there's no stairs to the roof from there.

CurBludgeon
01/22/2007, 11:21
Oh wait, you mean OAP2. Yeah...I think Q13 and 14 are adjacent, as they're both elevated.

Stepper79
01/22/2007, 11:22
OAP2 - I am the moron this morning

coyotejack
01/22/2007, 11:37
A little off topic but I know there are a few Joe Fans here

Awesome! Can't wait to see Snake-Eyes! :grin:

TMNT99
01/22/2007, 12:31
Still missing teams

If I don't get them by tomorrow, then you'll use the same team as last game:

Kazzigum, discombobulous, Mikey7979

Tanis11
01/22/2007, 12:40
Dunno how much d/ling it will help if it requires a Flash upgrade their computers can't get.

Actually Cyberboard is a separate program so you don't need an internet browser to view it. I've been using that for my game with GreatArelius and just save it and pop it back open when I go back on again. Saves a LOT of time...and I don't have to have 50 million windows open all day long. ;)

Tanis11
01/22/2007, 12:56
I have a question about the non playoff games...do injuries count for that game or is that out of continuity? Like with my latest injuries (and possibly benching). Would they be injured in the non playoff game or I can't used benched characters?

Jpuffy
01/22/2007, 13:05
I also have a question about injuries:

If a character is injured in game 6, are they injured for the first game of the playoffs?

TMNT99
01/22/2007, 13:10
I have a question about the non playoff games...do injuries count for that game or is that out of continuity? Like with my latest injuries (and possibly benching). Would they be injured in the non playoff game or I can't used benched characters?

No, injuries do not carry over into non-play off games

TMNT99
01/22/2007, 13:12
I also have a question about injuries:

If a character is injured in game 6, are they injured for the first game of the playoffs?

Yes, injuries will carry over through the play offs

However, injuries will not carry over from into the Super Hero Bowl

MSU
01/22/2007, 13:29
Come on GLC!! I need something to distract me from the mindless editing I am doing today!

JacinB
01/22/2007, 13:39
Maybe I'm not playoff material, after all. I mean, I couldn't even 'Stepp out' right ... :ermm:

Thawmus
01/22/2007, 14:11
Maybe I'm not playoff material, after all. I mean, I couldn't even 'Stepp out' right ... :ermm:

If it makes you feel any better, I suck at Stepping out too. Then again, my guys move slow as hell to begin with.....so stepping out isn't ever an option.

Unless I'm using Prometheus, in which case he just Stepps into the phantom zone. :laugh:


[/continual milking of a joke pointed at Stepper]

Peers
01/22/2007, 14:40
For those it may concern:

Please note that CreationMatrix map names may have changed between versions of their flash board program.

Oy, headache...

jhhump
01/22/2007, 16:32
Come on GLC!! I need something to distract me from the mindless editing I am doing today!


Hey MSU Orko can only get on the net when he's not at work. So he'll most likely post tonight.

JacinB
01/22/2007, 16:34
Just out of curiosity, if you completely blow the 'Steppin' Out' maneuver do we say that you Romo'd It?

Stepper79
01/22/2007, 16:35
with regards to Barrier all of the barrier squares must fall within the range of the person creating the barrier correct??

Thawmus
01/22/2007, 16:38
with regards to Barrier all of the barrier squares must fall within the range of the person creating the barrier correct??

Correct. They only need LOS to one of the tokens, but all of them must be within range.

Thawmus
01/22/2007, 16:41
Just out of curiosity, if you completely blow the 'Steppin' Out' maneuver do we say that you Romo'd It?

Not neccessarily. The author of the "Steppin' Out" maneuver likened it to taking a knee, and while I certainly would be entertained by Romo botching such a play, he hasn't done it yet.



I highlighted the key word.

vicious x
01/22/2007, 16:50
Not neccessarily. The author of the "Steppin' Out" maneuver likened it to taking a knee

it doesn't make sense, I mean, taking a knee, means you are on the offensive can attack but chose not to, rather end the game then continue the offensive. "Steppin' Out" = running now that makes sense :cheeky:

Jackofhearts2005
01/22/2007, 16:50
Just out of curiosity, if you completely blow the 'Steppin' Out' maneuver do we say that you Romo'd It?
Shush. Us cowboys fans have enough bad stuff going on without being reminded that Tony is no Aikeman YET.

No Big Bill but we're stuck with TO for another 2 years. :disappoin

Sidenote: Parcells never really looked happy on the sidelines this year, so while I wouldn't want him to come back, for his sake, it still sucks to lose a really good coach.

JacinB
01/22/2007, 16:57
Whilst the end of the game does end my post-season hopes, let me point out that even when I had a huge point advantage (like 300+ points), I did not run*. I kept taking the fight to Thawmus.

And, with that, the Secret Six retires ... at least until the post-season games for those that couldn't make the post-season begin. Now, I just gotta figure out who to give the last upgrade to, and who to 'lock in' for next season.








* - Alright, I tried to run. But, I couldn't get away from Clayface and his stinkin' plasticity. And, his Shape Change -- his freakin' Shape Change -- kept me from putting him out for the count on a number of different occassions. And then, when I did finally run away from him, I ran to a stupid spot where he could catch up with me and KO my most expensive figure ...

MSU
01/22/2007, 16:57
Anytime I hear "stepping out" I start humming the billy joel song "Moving Out" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1GbmaEKIWE). Anyone else do this? Anyone? Bueller?

:laugh:

JacinB
01/22/2007, 17:09
When is the trade deadline? Do people still get the opportunity to trade prior to the playoffs?

Stepper79
01/22/2007, 17:11
deadline was the min game 6 was posted

JacinB
01/22/2007, 17:17
Oh, well. Guess I'll not be able to sell off my 'overstock' then, eh?

Thawmus
01/22/2007, 17:22
it doesn't make sense, I mean, taking a knee, means you are on the offensive can attack but chose not to, rather end the game then continue the offensive. "Steppin' Out" = running now that makes sense :cheeky:

Well, see, that's where we were exaggerating the situation just to pick on him.

Actual Scenario:

Stepper was using the Big Red Cheese in the Super Bowl. He was doing great on the scoreboard, and chose to run him away where he couldn't be attacked for the rest of the game, so that the turn limit would hit, and he'd win on KO points. It was basically taking a knee, in that he was still definitely capable of getting KO's, but instead decided to just move to the end of the game, without taking any risk.

But we all tease him, saying that he ran away.

Stepper79
01/22/2007, 17:24
Oh, well. Guess I'll not be able to sell off my 'overstock' then, eh?


it gets sold back to the banker at the beginning of next season (you keep three) that are DC universe only and the rest are Cashed out

CurBludgeon
01/22/2007, 18:06
Well, see, that's where we were exaggerating the situation just to pick on him.

Actual Scenario:

Stepper was using the Big Red Cheese in the Super Bowl. He was doing great on the scoreboard, and chose to run him away where he couldn't be attacked for the rest of the game, so that the turn limit would hit, and he'd win on KO points. It was basically taking a knee, in that he was still definitely capable of getting KO's, but instead decided to just move to the end of the game, without taking any risk.

But we all tease him, saying that he ran away.

Yeah, and while we're being fair, I believe that the Vision had pretty much conceded prior to that anyway, as a combination of placement errors and bad luck had doomed the Exiles.

LeeMac38
01/22/2007, 18:37
No, injuries do not carry over into non-play off games


why did this not come up during my question about forfieting my game 6? I would not have done that otherwise.

Tanis11
01/22/2007, 18:44
why did this not come up during my question about forfieting my game 6? I would not have done that otherwise.

You know, I believe you can forfeit during any time during the game and play it as a training match....

LeeMac38
01/22/2007, 18:47
i know, i forfieted before the match to avoid injuries. i even posted on the main thread to ask for comments or suggestions. no one brought up that injuries wouldn't carry over into the playoffs (making a forfiet pointless). so, basically, that was the dumbest thing i could have done.

CurBludgeon
01/22/2007, 18:51
i know, i forfieted before the match to avoid injuries. i even posted on the main thread to ask for comments or suggestions. no one brought up that injuries wouldn't carry over into the playoffs (making a forfiet pointless). so, basically, that was the dumbest thing i could have done.

Either you or I am confused. Injuries do carry into the playoffs, per Turtle's post earlier today:

Yes, injuries will carry over through the play offs

However, injuries will not carry over from into the Super Hero Bowl

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2482729&postcount=9600 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2482729&postcount=9600)

LeeMac38
01/22/2007, 18:55
Either you or I am confused. Injuries do carry into the playoffs, per Turtle's post earlier today:



http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2482729&postcount=9600 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2482729&postcount=9600)


yes, i am confused, he also posted saying they do not carry over. look up a few posts.

zakiszak
01/22/2007, 18:56
Injuries DO carry over to the playoffs, they don't carry from the playoffs to the superbowl

Jackofhearts2005
01/22/2007, 18:58
yes, i am confused, he also posted saying they do not carry over. look up a few posts.
They don't carry on into non play off games. For instance, I don't have to worry about injuries cause I'm not in the playoffs. If we fight Galactus (or whatever), my team will get to show up injury free.

Tanis11
01/22/2007, 19:02
Yeah I asked if injuries carried over into the NON playoff games, and Turtle said it didn't.

Someone else asked if they do carry over into the playoffs and they do, they DON'T carry over into the Superbowl. So yeah, you did the right thing. No worries, Leemac. :)

Jackofhearts2005
01/22/2007, 19:11
Anybody wanna play a practice game?

vicious x
01/22/2007, 19:29
sure,... set it up

Stepper79
01/22/2007, 20:58
again for us Joe fans here is the first pic of 25th anniversary figures

http://www.yojoe.com/magazine/2007/01/22a.shtml

two guesses who it is??

rouge2
01/22/2007, 21:06
Man, nothing more frustrating that plotting out a great move to get through a tough defense and possibly change the course of the game, then miss the roll by one. Dark Judges vs. SoM, is about to turn into a brutal slog, which hurts my chances of racking up points for a Cinderella run at the playoffs (If Tanis didn't already mess it up by throwing his game :angry: ;) )

IAM138
01/22/2007, 21:13
Originally posted by rouge2
Man, nothing more frustrating that plotting out a great move to get through a tough defense and possibly change the course of the game, then miss the roll by one. Dark Judges vs. SoM, is about to turn into a brutal slog, which hurts my chances of racking up points for a Cinderella run at the playoffs (If Tanis didn't already mess it up by throwing his game )

I hear you. See my game 5 against the Outsiders for confirmation. 8 attack rolls missed by me, totally cost me a shot at a playoff run!

Tanis11
01/22/2007, 21:46
I hear you. See my game 5 against the Outsiders for confirmation. 8 attack rolls missed by me, totally cost me a shot at a playoff run!

I hear ya too. THREE...THREE Super Sense rolls...THREE!! THREE Shape Change rolls...THREE!! *sigh*

Tanis11
01/22/2007, 21:47
again for us Joe fans here is the first pic of 25th anniversary figures

http://www.yojoe.com/magazine/2007/01/22a.shtml

two guesses who it is??

Boo...where's Snake Eyes...boo...but then again, they probably wanna save the best for last. ;) hehehehe...

But Man, Storm Shadow looks AWESOME...that's some nice detail and posability there....

MSU
01/23/2007, 10:41
Where is everyone? Too engrossed in playing week 6?

Peers
01/23/2007, 10:46
Man, nothing more frustrating that plotting out a great move to get through a tough defense and possibly change the course of the game, then miss the roll by one. Dark Judges vs. SoM, is about to turn into a brutal slog, which hurts my chances of racking up points for a Cinderella run at the playoffs (If Tanis didn't already mess it up by throwing his game :angry: ;) )

You're telling me. If mine had worked, I had a shot at taking down KCGL...

JacinB
01/23/2007, 10:46
Too bored with the GIJoe toy talk ... ? ;)

TMNT99
01/23/2007, 10:47
Ok, last of the games went up.

STATS on the front page are updated

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2166786&postcount=6

Check 'em for mistatkes, PM if any are found.

And so are the team rankings

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2166791&postcount=8

GL4Life
01/23/2007, 10:51
Thanks Turt! Puffy No Contested our game so it'll be nice to have a stress free first match back

As for the Joes, until the get the rights to make jive talken Road "My name is not Heavy Duty" Block, I will not be happy.

zakiszak
01/23/2007, 11:57
So the way I see it it's a dog fight between the following teams for 7th & 8th place

Alpha Fllight (W-4, L-1; 2073 pts)
Freedom Phalanx (W-3, L-2; 2375 pts)
West Coast Avengers (W-3, L-2; 2031 pts)
Sinister Six (W-3, L-2; 2015 pts)
Thunderbolts (W-3, L-2; 1914 pts)
Excalibur (W-3, L-2; 1829 pts)
The Exiles (W-3, L-2; 1753 pts)

Alpha Flight is the only team here that could lose and still make it (currently 4-1), but considering there are 3-1 teams with a higher total point score than Alpha they'd have to still score big while losing (would have to be very close to 401-399 in order to not be passed by Freedom Phalanx, who in turn would have to be decimated).

Exiles will have to make a giant win, close to a complete shut down, but we've seen them do that before. So while all the teams listed above are in serious competition for that 8th slot, I think the real contenders are

Alpha Fllight (W-4, L-1; 2073 pts)
Freedom Phalanx (W-3, L-2; 2375 pts)
West Coast Avengers (W-3, L-2; 2031 pts)
Sinister Six (W-3, L-2; 2015 pts)

Freedom Phalanx just needs a mediocre win to clinch it, 500-300 would do it. If the Phalanx and Alpha Flight lose then it's 100% down to who can score the most points, with the Alpha Flight, WCA, and Sinister 6 totals being within 60 points of eachother. Should be VERY tight.

TMNT99
01/23/2007, 12:04
But again, if everyone of those team (aside from Thuderbolts/Excalibur) loose, a 3-3 team could still slip in.

coyotejack
01/23/2007, 12:16
Good luck on your matches guys! I won't be able to post for a couple weeks so I thought I'd send out my good luck wishes now. :) Today is my last official day at work (though I'll still be helping them as a consultant when I'm in the new place) so hopefully it will be stress free! lol

GreatArelius1
01/23/2007, 12:30
TMNT, will playoffs be random match ups or 1st vs 2nd, 3rd vs 4th or 1st vs last, 2nd vs 7th. Just wondering for my playoff team.

TMNT99
01/23/2007, 12:34
TMNT, will playoffs be random match ups or 1st vs 2nd, 3rd vs 4th or 1st vs last, 2nd vs 7th. Just wondering for my playoff team.

It will be 1 & 8th
2 & 7
3 & 6
4 & 5

rouge2
01/23/2007, 12:46
Quick Question: Does Force Blast qualify for an SA?

GL4Life
01/23/2007, 12:52
Quick Question: Does Force Blast qualify for an SA?

No, to get an SA an attack roll must be rolled. It can however can;t as an assist or a defend if used in the proper context

GreatArelius1
01/23/2007, 12:59
If you do damage with Force Blast you get SA as well.

rouge2
01/23/2007, 13:48
Turtle, could you have a gander at the SoM vs. Dark Judges game. An incorrect recap placement is causing a problem, and I think we need a ruling.

zakiszak
01/23/2007, 14:23
I think the Alpha Flight/Hydra game is going to be very crucial for rankings. They're a great team, but are playing Hydra, and both sides brought their A-list lineup. It's 50/50, but should be watched VERY closely.

rouge2
01/23/2007, 14:27
OK, another question: If I target a wall, and on the other side of the wall is a barrrier token, do I destroy just the wall or the barrier as well?

JacinB
01/23/2007, 14:30
Just the wall.

TMNT99
01/23/2007, 16:52
Ok, I did my part and brought home a win, now all those teams that are currenly 3-2 need to loose and I have a chance at the finals.

TMNT99
01/23/2007, 17:04
Actually, nevermind.

I just looked at points, even if Freedom Phalanx looses and picks up zero points, they'll still have more points than I do after round 6. Man, I really need to have clean sweep the Defenders to have a chance.

Of course, The last minute KO on Ben this game, and Johnny Last game weren't very helpful. Oh well....

Well, I got enough STAT's to upgrade Black Cat, next year, I'll be rockin' it hard core.

Now to get you players to reverse your opinion on wildcarding the Alt Fan 4 TA.

GreatArelius1
01/23/2007, 17:17
There was a rule that you couldnt wildcard ALT Fan 4 TA???

Doombot 3.1
01/23/2007, 17:23
Well, I got enough STAT's to upgrade Black Cat, next year, I'll be rockin' it hard core.

Now to get you players to reverse your opinion on wildcarding the Alt Fan 4 TA.

Ah, but the next upgrade from R Black Cat is to the LE Felicia Hardy, who I believe is not a wildcard. So even if the wildcard/Alt FF rule changes, it'll still take some more work to get her to her great E version.

JacinB
01/23/2007, 17:33
Ah, but he is the organizer of this league and can make up rules as he goes. ;)

Seriously, though. The progression is based on REVs, so his next upgrade would be to the Experienced level, which would also unlock LE Felicia Hardy.

Jackofhearts2005
01/23/2007, 18:48
So you just ignore the LE for upgrade purposes unless the LE is higher than all other versions (as is the case for Shazam!) right?

So I could use the Sinestro of Krougar LE, since he is a lower cost than my current Sinestro, but I could not use the Barbara Ann Minerva LE, because it is more expensive than R Cheetah. Verdad?

Tanis11
01/23/2007, 18:56
Ah, but he is the organizer of this league and can make up rules as he goes. ;)

Seriously, though. The progression is based on REVs, so his next upgrade would be to the Experienced level, which would also unlock LE Felicia Hardy.

Actually no, you'd still have to upgrade to her LE. If you look at the example Turtle gives us on the first page, it shows having to upgrade to Spider man LE inbetween REVs.

vicious x
01/23/2007, 18:58
not really I wanted to upgrade wonderman to vet 132 points :) but turtle said his next upgrade would be the le 120 points :disappoin

zakiszak
01/23/2007, 19:02
I currently have Thor at his sinister E. If I wanted to get him up to Power Cosmic Thor, would I have to go to

-Sinister V
-LE Donald Blake
-Cosmic Power

?

Jackofhearts2005
01/23/2007, 20:14
Actually no, you'd still have to upgrade to her LE. If you look at the example Turtle gives us on the first page, it shows having to upgrade to Spider man LE inbetween REVs.
Are you sure? In the FAQ, the REV progression skips LE Clark Kent

And still the question remains, since Sinestro's most expensive REV is the Hypertime one, does that mean that I upgrade to the E HT Sinestro?
Or did we rule no Colossal figures?

MSU
01/23/2007, 20:28
I am because I had to upgrade to the LE Kara before the Experienced.

VanceMadrox
01/23/2007, 20:55
The faq skips LE Clark Kent because superman's progression is based on the most expensive REV set, which is the ICONS version.

When an LE is part of the most expensive REV set, it counts.

tenketsu
01/23/2007, 22:22
Did I hear it right that you can turn a match into a No Contest, injury-free match at any time? Cause seriously, I am sucking it up hardcore these last couple matches, and I think my only shot at winning this match is already gone, so...

Not that being able to get up onto the Junkyard's only elevated terrain on turn 1 and have it directly facing your opponent isn't extremely powerful, but still, ultimately I could've played this alot better than I have and I didn't. Must be this trying to take more than 1 turn a day thing that's throwing me off. :nervous:

Tanis11
01/23/2007, 23:24
Did I hear it right that you can turn a match into a No Contest, injury-free match at any time? Cause seriously, I am sucking it up hardcore these last couple matches, and I think my only shot at winning this match is already gone, so...

Not that being able to get up onto the Junkyard's only elevated terrain on turn 1 and have it directly facing your opponent isn't extremely powerful, but still, ultimately I could've played this alot better than I have and I didn't. Must be this trying to take more than 1 turn a day thing that's throwing me off. :nervous:

Yeah I'm not sure...when I told LeeMac, I believe you could call a no contest at any time but Turtle neither denied or confirmed...

WakandaMan
01/23/2007, 23:33
Marvel League Rankings Analysis

#1 - SHIELD (W-5, L-0; 2778 pts) vs. Heralds (2-3)
#2 - Iron Man Rogues (W-5, L-0; 2388 pts) vs. Ultimates (4-1)

With both of these teams on straight wins, they are 100% guaranteed to make it even if they lose to a clean sweep. People on the edge will be hoping that the Rogues beat the Ultimates soundly to reduce the current #5 team's playoff chances.

#3 - 60's Avengers (W-4, L-1; 2798 pts) vs. Sinister 6 (3-2)

An important game for both teams. As the #9 team, if the Sinister 6 can pull off a total sweep of the 60's Avengers, they could actually knock them out of the play-offs! Chances are slim however, as it would only happen if the Freedom Phalanx and WCA can overtake them in points as well. As long as the Avengers can wind up with at least 18 points they are safe.

#4 - Minions Of Doom (W-4, L-1; 2575 pts) vs. Fantastic Four (2-3)

The Minions are guaranteed to make it in, because if they don't, Doom has threatened to destroy HCrealms and turn it into a memory dump for his robots. Nah, j/k! The Minions need at least 241 pts with a loss to stay in the play-offs, but a win will guarantee it.

#5 - Ultimates (W-4, L-1; 2516 pts) vs. Iron Man Rogues (5-0)

The Ultimates need at least 300 pts on a loss to be guaranteed to stay in the play-offs. Tough call against the undeafeted Rogues, but if they get less than that there's still a chance they'll stay in, depending on the results of other matches.

#6 - Alpha Flight (W-4, L-1; 2073 pts) vs. Hydra (3-2)

To be guaranteed a place, the Alphans MUST win against Hydra. If they lose, it's going to come down to points, and with plenty of 3-2 teams on similar points to them currently, that's very dangerous for them

#7 - Freedom Phalanx (W-3, L-2; 2375 pts) vs. Hellfire Club (1-4)

The Phalanx lead the 3-2 pack currently, so a loss here could knock them out of the race. If they win with at least 440 pts then they guaranteed to make it in to the finals.

#8 - West Coast Avengers (W-3, L-2; 2031 pts) vs. Secret Defenders(2-3)

The WCA need a huge win (784pts) to be guaranteed a playoff. Any less than that, and it will depend on the scores of those teams chomping at their heels for that coveted 8th spot.

#9 - Sinister Six (W-3, L-2; 2015 pts) vs. 60's Avengers

Sitting at the border, the 6 need a definite win here for a chance at it. If they can get more points than the WCA and the T-bolts with a win they can make it in.

#10 - Thunderbolts (W-3, L-2; 1914 pts) vs. Excalibur (3-2)
#11 - Excalibur (W-3, L-2; 1829 pts) vs. Thunderbolts (3-2)

This game is critical for both of these players. Theoretically, a loss with 118 pts for the T-bolts or 202 pts for Excalibur could still get them in, since that is all that is currently seperating them from the 8th slot. However, don't hold your hopes up, since that would require the WCA and the Sinister 6 both getting completely slaughtered. A good win either way will give a good chance of making it in.

#12 - The Exiles (W-3, L-2; 1753 pts) vs. New Mutants (1-4)

The minimum needed to give the Exiles the slimmest chance to make it in would be 278pts. Although obviously the more points they get the better.

#13 - HYDRA (W-3, L-2; 1610 pts) vs. Alpha Flight

Hydra needs at least 421 pts for a shot at the playoffs. Tough luck for a team that was in the top 3 just a couple of rounds ago.

#14 - The Brotherhood (W-2, L-2; 2015 pts) vs. X-factor

As the leading 2-2 team, the Brotherhood look okay on points, but they need all of the 3-2 teams to lose except for one (which would have to be either the T-bolts or Excalibur, since they are vs. each other). If that happens and Magneto's crew scores big, they could still make it.

#15 - Fantastic Four (W-2, L-3; 1928 pts) vs. Minions of Doom (4-1)
#16 - Ult Fantastic 4 (W-2, L-3; 1766 pts) vs. Defenders (2-3)
#17 - Defenders (W-2, L-3; 1622 pts) vs. Ult. Fantastic Four (2-3)
#18 - Heralds of Galactus (W-2, L-3; 1319 pts) vs. SHIELD (5-0)
#19 - Secret Defenders (W-2, L-3; 1298 pts) vs. WCA (3-2)

The same goes for the rest of the 2-3 teams, except that they also need to get more points than the other 2-3 teams ahead of them for a chance at it.

Still, 19 players are in contention by the final round! Good luck with your games all! And may the best villian win! ;)

mbauers
01/24/2007, 00:48
Thanks Wakanda for the playoff picture Marvel Style! I think, though, that the Iron Man Rogues already declared a no contest (Good for the Ultimates, bad for those of us on the bubble :cry: ) so that is going to make spot #8 even tighter.

zakiszak
01/24/2007, 01:32
Gah, very tempted to go 'no contest', as I'm pretty sure I'll make the finals with a loss so long as I kill SOMEONE (I'm looking at you Vulture!). If I declare 'No Contest' scoring still happens as usual, right? Meaning that I end the match with wiping out my opponents I get all the points, just don't get the victory, and my opponent still has the opportunity to get all my points? I'd hate to deny Kazzigum a chance at my points since he needs a big win to make the finals (not that I'll make it easy for him).

zakiszak
01/24/2007, 01:33
But something about 'No Contest' just feels wrong. Are we not warriors? Are we not men!?

Jackofhearts2005
01/24/2007, 01:40
The faq skips LE Clark Kent because superman's progression is based on the most expensive REV set, which is the ICONS version.

When an LE is part of the most expensive REV set, it counts.
Well carp. That means Dr. Light has to work for a 6 point upgrade.
I like the R Dr. Light better than the LE as it is :(

Tanis11
01/24/2007, 01:56
Gah, very tempted to go 'no contest', as I'm pretty sure I'll make the finals with a loss so long as I kill SOMEONE (I'm looking at you Vulture!). If I declare 'No Contest' scoring still happens as usual, right? Meaning that I end the match with wiping out my opponents I get all the points, just don't get the victory, and my opponent still has the opportunity to get all my points? I'd hate to deny Kazzigum a chance at my points since he needs a big win to make the finals (not that I'll make it easy for him).

If you can call a no contest in the middle of the match, I believe you forfeit any points you scored. But again, I think we need to ask Turtle to really know.

feluwelt
01/24/2007, 02:03
Marvel League Rankings Analysis

#1 - SHIELD (W-5, L-0; 2778 pts) vs. Heralds (2-3)
#2 - Iron Man Rogues (W-5, L-0; 2388 pts) vs. Ultimates (4-1)

With both of these teams on straight wins, they are 100% guaranteed to make it even if they lose to a clean sweep. People on the edge will be hoping that the Rogues beat the Ultimates soundly to reduce the current #5 team's playoff chances.

#3 - 60's Avengers (W-4, L-1; 2798 pts) vs. Sinister 6 (3-2)

An important game for both teams. As the #9 team, if the Sinister 6 can pull off a total sweep of the 60's Avengers, they could actually knock them out of the play-offs! Chances are slim however, as it would only happen if the Freedom Phalanx and WCA can overtake them in points as well. As long as the Avengers can wind up with at least 18 points they are safe.

#4 - Minions Of Doom (W-4, L-1; 2575 pts) vs. Fantastic Four (2-3)

The Minions are guaranteed to make it in, because if they don't, Doom has threatened to destroy HCrealms and turn it into a memory dump for his robots. Nah, j/k! The Minions need at least 241 pts with a loss to stay in the play-offs, but a win will guarantee it.

#5 - Ultimates (W-4, L-1; 2516 pts) vs. Iron Man Rogues (5-0)

The Ultimates need at least 300 pts on a loss to be guaranteed to stay in the play-offs. Tough call against the undeafeted Rogues, but if they get less than that there's still a chance they'll stay in, depending on the results of other matches.

#6 - Alpha Flight (W-4, L-1; 2073 pts) vs. Hydra (3-2)

To be guaranteed a place, the Alphans MUST win against Hydra. If they lose, it's going to come down to points, and with plenty of 3-2 teams on similar points to them currently, that's very dangerous for them

#7 - Freedom Phalanx (W-3, L-2; 2375 pts) vs. Hellfire Club (1-4)

The Phalanx lead the 3-2 pack currently, so a loss here could knock them out of the race. If they win with at least 440 pts then they guaranteed to make it in to the finals.

#8 - West Coast Avengers (W-3, L-2; 2031 pts) vs. Secret Defenders(2-3)

The WCA need a huge win (784pts) to be guaranteed a playoff. Any less than that, and it will depend on the scores of those teams chomping at their heels for that coveted 8th spot.

#9 - Sinister Six (W-3, L-2; 2015 pts) vs. 60's Avengers

Sitting at the border, the 6 need a definite win here for a chance at it. If they can get more points than the WCA and the T-bolts with a win they can make it in.

#10 - Thunderbolts (W-3, L-2; 1914 pts) vs. Excalibur (3-2)
#11 - Excalibur (W-3, L-2; 1829 pts) vs. Thunderbolts (3-2)

This game is critical for both of these players. Theoretically, a loss with 118 pts for the T-bolts or 202 pts for Excalibur could still get them in, since that is all that is currently seperating them from the 8th slot. However, don't hold your hopes up, since that would require the WCA and the Sinister 6 both getting completely slaughtered. A good win either way will give a good chance of making it in.

#12 - The Exiles (W-3, L-2; 1753 pts) vs. New Mutants (1-4)

The minimum needed to give the Exiles the slimmest chance to make it in would be 278pts. Although obviously the more points they get the better.

#13 - HYDRA (W-3, L-2; 1610 pts) vs. Alpha Flight

Hydra needs at least 421 pts for a shot at the playoffs. Tough luck for a team that was in the top 3 just a couple of rounds ago.

#14 - The Brotherhood (W-2, L-2; 2015 pts) vs. X-factor

As the leading 2-2 team, the Brotherhood look okay on points, but they need all of the 3-2 teams to lose except for one (which would have to be either the T-bolts or Excalibur, since they are vs. each other). If that happens and Magneto's crew scores big, they could still make it.

#15 - Fantastic Four (W-2, L-3; 1928 pts) vs. Minions of Doom (4-1)
#16 - Ult Fantastic 4 (W-2, L-3; 1766 pts) vs. Defenders (2-3)
#17 - Defenders (W-2, L-3; 1622 pts) vs. Ult. Fantastic Four (2-3)
#18 - Heralds of Galactus (W-2, L-3; 1319 pts) vs. SHIELD (5-0)
#19 - Secret Defenders (W-2, L-3; 1298 pts) vs. WCA (3-2)

The same goes for the rest of the 2-3 teams, except that they also need to get more points than the other 2-3 teams ahead of them for a chance at it.

Still, 19 players are in contention by the final round! Good luck with your games all! And may the best villian win! ;)


wow so your telling me I still have a shot at teh playoffs at 3-3 well im glad shield did not contest with me, or id be 2-4 right now guess that gives me
2119 points total, ill have to watch the other games now but ill probally just end up with a mid road draft choice, but watch out I learned LE norrin radds not that good, time to play vet surfer next season or stick with his rookie version that is awsome

mbauers
01/24/2007, 02:28
Gah, very tempted to go 'no contest', as I'm pretty sure I'll make the finals with a loss so long as I kill SOMEONE (I'm looking at you Vulture!). If I declare 'No Contest' scoring still happens as usual, right? Meaning that I end the match with wiping out my opponents I get all the points, just don't get the victory, and my opponent still has the opportunity to get all my points? I'd hate to deny Kazzigum a chance at my points since he needs a big win to make the finals (not that I'll make it easy for him).

If you go "no contest" it counts as a loss for you and a clean sweep victory for Kazz (and 800 points for him). This will result in a very happy Kazzigum and very sad mbauers and jhhump, since that would be two teams ahead of us (ultimates are the other) given 800 free points and an automatic playoff berth. But I'm not bitter or anything :laugh:

Kazzigum
01/24/2007, 05:11
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Transmission interupted, all channels.

The screen clears, a plain stage with a black podium and green curtains behind is shown. Standing relaxed behind the podium is Doctor Octopus, clad in a slick white suit and a cigar clenched in his teeth. Octavius' hands are folded on the podium-top before him, while his tentacles whirl around him -- one adjusts his bulky sun glasses, one flips through a stack of notes set before him, one lights his cigar with a match and the last waves to his comrades behind him with a flourish.

The bulky forms of Vulture, Kraven the Hunter, Sandman, Electro and Mysterio brood behind Doctor Octopus, all staring into the camera.

"Greetings to you, citizens of the Earth. I am Doctor Otto Octavius, and behind me are my associates. Together, the American media has dubbed us the Sinister Six, and so we embrace the moniker. In the end, the name is of little consequence. All that matters is that you understand that we six are now the new masters of this planet.

We have toiled long these last several months, but at last we now posses the fabled Tesla Device, a technilogical weapon of untold power. I'd suggest you ask the Marvel Knights regarding this weapon's power, but as I said, it's true power is 'untold.' And for those of you who believe in such things, we also possess a book of magic retrieved from another universe by Doctor Strange. A trinket when compared to the Tesla Device, to be sure, but an item of significant power in it's own right. All this, combined with our own formible powers make us, the Sinister Six, invincible. For you, the simple people of this world, that means we simply cannot be defeated.

And for those of you who may doubt this, take heed. The Secret Defenders, the Marvel Knights, the X-men and more have all fallen before us in their vain attempts to stop our ascention. Doctor Strange, Iron Man, Hercules, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Captain America, Spider-Man, no matter which costume he wears, and many more have all failed to resist us. As I said, we cannot be defeated.

So, gaze upon your new rulers and prepare to bow down to the Sinister Six. You have 48 hours to comply, so send your offerings before it is too late. Oh, and don't think you are exempt just because you dwell in a parallel universe. We are aware of these DC and INDY dimensions and all you denizens thereof are next. 72 hours to comply.

That is all.


Electro to Vulture: "Hey, WE have the Tesla Device? I thought he said it was just a myth..."

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TMNT99
01/24/2007, 08:46
Sorry for any confusion, you must declare no contest at the start of the match.

It's a little un-fair after knowing you're going to loose to declare no contest.

What would stop people in round 14 to declare no contest and avoid all injuries?

TMNT99
01/24/2007, 08:51
New Rule Proposal

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2487056&postcount=3

LeeMac38
01/24/2007, 08:57
SHIELD - in
Rogues - in
Ultimates - in

5 left

tenketsu
01/24/2007, 08:57
Sorry for any confusion, you must declare no contest at the start of the match.

It's a little un-fair after knowing you're going to loose to declare no contest.

What would stop people in round 14 to declare no contest and avoid all injuries?

Well, I would assume that injuries taken before declaring No Contest would still count. As in, up until that point your team was actually trying to win, and thus vulnerable to injuries, after that point they were only concerned with not getting their skull's cracked open.

TMNT99
01/24/2007, 08:59
Well, I would assume that injuries taken before declaring No Contest would still count. As in, up until that point your team was actually trying to win, and thus vulnerable to injuries, after that point they were only concerned with not getting their skull's cracked open.

Sorry, no Contest must be declared prior to the match actually starting.


:classic: <---- I put that there so you won't hate me

TMNT99
01/24/2007, 09:03
FELLOW MARVEL FOLK

Now that my Ult Fan 4 officially got creamed by the New Mutants, Iron Man Rogues, the Heralds of Galactus and of course the Minions of Doom, I can make myself a canidate for countless Player Awards.

I ask you to take time and reflect on my disasterous season. And when voting time comes, pick me for all those awards you deem worthy.

I won't tell you which one I want the most (since I know the prizes) but let's just say, they're good, and I need one.

And don't feel pressured to vote for me just because I'm the one who can decide which feats are thematic, and who you do or do not get signing bonus, and the one who interpets the morality law...

... vote for me.. because...


I'm your father! :eek:

tenketsu
01/24/2007, 09:05
As a DC Player who has no immediate stake in this, and as the player of the FF in the RPSC and a life-long Fantastic Four fan, I have to say...

No way. The TA, as written, is perfectly balanced--for those who are paying for it. With Wildcards, it gets gross, and quickly. Especially because in this format, BFCs are always random, so the major counters to the strategy of Sue + Wildcards aren't an option.

Maybe if we worked out a system whereby you had to pay 10-15 extra points per Wildcard it could be wildcardable, but for free? I can't get behind that.

tenketsu
01/24/2007, 09:05
Sorry, no Contest must be declared prior to the match actually starting.


:classic: <---- I put that there so you won't hate me

Nah, no hate for rulings--and, for the record, I wrote the post about FF before reading this, lol

TMNT99
01/24/2007, 09:16
As a DC Player who has no immediate stake in this, and as the player of the FF in the RPSC and a life-long Fantastic Four fan, I have to say...

No way. The TA, as written, is perfectly balanced--for those who are paying for it. With Wildcards, it gets gross, and quickly. Especially because in this format, BFCs are always random, so the major counters to the strategy of Sue + Wildcards aren't an option.

Maybe if we worked out a system whereby you had to pay 10-15 extra points per Wildcard it could be wildcardable, but for free? I can't get behind that.

True but I lost 4 games even with the Alt Fan 4 TA. And barely won my last game.

The fear was that I would dominate, clearly that's not the case. And while you can't choose your BFC, I've clearly been screwed in a few matches by the random BFC.

And they're are plenty ways around it.

Doom got me with a high attack. New Mutants found pulse wave was a wonderous way. Iron Man Rogues found poison works nicely.

I just kinda feel that if Wizkids thought it was un-balanced to have it wildcarded, they wouldn't allow for it to be wildcarded.

TMNT99
01/24/2007, 09:24
On an unrelated note, anyone know any good quick Ice breakers I could use at a christian winter camp for teenagers?

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 09:31
On an unrelated note, anyone know any good quick Ice breakers I could use at a christian winter camp for teenagers?

1. Fake a power outage

2. Snowball fight........but since there probably isn't any snow....

3. Capture the flag

4. Monopoly

5. Hearts

TMNT99
01/24/2007, 09:34
1. Fake a power outage

2. Snowball fight........but since there probably isn't any snow....

3. Capture the flag

4. Monopoly

5. Hearts

Good games, but I'm looking for something quick and more "Icebreaker-isque".

Like Ultimate Musical Chairs, - Musical chairs except when the music stop, the caller yells out a body part and that body part must be put on the chair. For instance, - ear, Right hand, and so on. Keeping it clean of course.

Something quick and fun to get teens out of the chairs and warm them up for the evening service.

MSU
01/24/2007, 09:42
I just kinda feel that if Wizkids thought it was un-balanced to have it wildcarded, they wouldn't allow for it to be wildcarded.

Right, but WK has made some choice decision in the past when it comes to rulings...I wouldn't use that as my argument.

Kazzigum
01/24/2007, 09:58
On an unrelated note, anyone know any good quick Ice breakers I could use at a christian winter camp for teenagers?

Ask everyone what they plan to send as tribute to the Sinister Six in the next 48 hours. You don't want to send the same thing after all...

:classic:

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 10:15
I just kinda feel that if Wizkids thought it was un-balanced to have it wildcarded, they wouldn't allow for it to be wildcarded.

Well, that's because they feel that BFC's are enough to feel that something is balanced, sadly. They don't feel wildcards are unbalanced because Disbanded is out there, and they don't feel LAMP is unbalanced because Poor Teamwork is out there. And they typically fall back on BFC's to say that something isn't completely borken.

Which, since we use random BFC's here, really doesn't work for us at all.

da-Craig-O
01/24/2007, 10:16
*Looks at the Legion team*

I don't see any problems with wildcarding the Alt. FF TA. Especially since I thought we were working on straight tournament rules in this league.

Peers
01/24/2007, 10:41
I recommend the rule be either 'ALL ATAs cannot be wildcarded' or 'No ATAs can be wildcarded, the wildcards get the original TA'.

Personally, I have no problem with ATAs being wildcardable in a league where you've got the KC figures running around.

vicious x
01/24/2007, 10:45
yeah we have two ff teams w/ alt ff ta, neither is making the playoffs,... if both teams went undefeated, I would say something like I want them in season 4 :)

Wow if the avengers declare a no contest and I sweep Secret Defenders (not likely) plus a win by Alpha Flight/ Phalanx would equal Avengers not making the playoffs that would be funny yet sad but funny :laugh:

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 10:51
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Transmission interupted, all channels.

The screen clears, a plain stage with a black podium and green curtains behind is shown. Standing relaxed behind the podium is Doctor Octopus, clad in a slick white suit and a cigar clenched in his teeth. Octavius' hands are folded on the podium-top before him, while his tentacles whirl around him -- one adjusts his bulky sun glasses, one flips through a stack of notes set before him, one lights his cigar with a match and the last waves to his comrades behind him with a flourish.

The bulky forms of Vulture, Kraven the Hunter, Sandman, Electro and Mysterio brood behind Doctor Octopus, all staring into the camera.

"Greetings to you, citizens of the Earth. I am Doctor Otto Octavius, and behind me are my associates. Together, the American media has dubbed us the Sinister Six, and so we embrace the moniker. In the end, the name is of little consequence. All that matters is that you understand that we six are now the new masters of this planet.

We have toiled long these last several months, but at last we now posses the fabled Tesla Device, a technilogical weapon of untold power. I'd suggest you ask the Marvel Knights regarding this weapon's power, but as I said, it's true power is 'untold.' And for those of you who believe in such things, we also possess a book of magic retrieved from another universe by Doctor Strange. A trinket when compared to the Tesla Device, to be sure, but an item of significant power in it's own right. All this, combined with our own formible powers make us, the Sinister Six, invincible. For you, the simple people of this world, that means we simply cannot be defeated.

And for those of you who may doubt this, take heed. The Secret Defenders, the Marvel Knights, the X-men and more have all fallen before us in their vain attempts to stop our ascention. Doctor Strange, Iron Man, Hercules, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Captain America, Spider-Man, no matter which costume he wears, and many more have all failed to resist us. As I said, we cannot be defeated.

So, gaze upon your new rulers and prepare to bow down to the Sinister Six. You have 48 hours to comply, so send your offerings before it is too late. Oh, and don't think you are exempt just because you dwell in a parallel universe. We are aware of these DC and INDY dimensions and all you denizens thereof are next. 72 hours to comply.

That is all.


Electro to Vulture: "Hey, WE have the Tesla Device? I thought he said it was just a myth..."

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Fade into the the interior of the rock of eternity....

"So what is your take Cap" Ask Mr Terrific.

"The rules of Magic have been re-written there book is most likely useless as for this Tesla Device the wisdom of Solomon tells me that the are bluffing and that we need not worry about their empty Threats." "Should they threaten our world, the Sinister Six will crumble before the might of Hercules, and the Speed of Mercury"

TMNT99
01/24/2007, 10:54
Wow if the avengers declare a no contest and I sweep Secret Defenders (not likely) plus a win by Alpha Flight/ Phalanx would equal Avengers not making the playoffs that would be funny yet sad but funny :laugh:

Again, can not declare no contest after match has started. It got burried as the last post on the last page, so you might have missed that.

zakiszak
01/24/2007, 11:30
Sorry for any confusion, you must declare no contest at the start of the match.
It's a little un-fair after knowing you're going to loose to declare no contest.
What would stop people in round 14 to declare no contest and avoid all injuries?

I think this is definately the more logical and fair way of handling it, declaring no contest mid-match felt a little silly. It's just that the board discussion of the past week has been discussing it as a mid-game ability. Besides, if it's a clean sweep I wouldn't do it anyways, I need SOME points to get to the finals. Sorry Kazzi.

New Rule Proposal
That the Alt Fan 4 can be wildcard-able
Since I didn't even make the top 10 with my team, I don't feel it's too powerful, thank you.


It's a tough call, as other than this we play by official heroclix rules. But I HATE the Alt FF ability. I'm fine with ICWO, even fine with Thunderbolts, but the Alt FF ability wildcarded just bugs the #### out of me. I know Wizkids considers it balanced, but it's the one ability in the game that seems overpowered to the point of being silly. 19 defense for every figure on your team, even those with ES/D and combat reflexes? Even those that didn't pay the hefty FF TA price?

It's in the official rules, and it's a slippery slope outlawing things just based on the 'I don't like it' criteria, but I'd much rather play in a league without wildcardable Alt FF abilities on the other side of the map from me.

And remember, it wouldn't just be FF teams. One needs to ask themself how they'd feel once the MSU's Legion got their hands on a decent FF member, and locked an already rampaging team's defense at 17 or more.


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"Greetings to you, citizens of the Earth. I am Doctor Otto Octavius, and behind me are my associates. Together, the American media has dubbed us the Sinister Six, and so we embrace the moniker. In the end, the name is of little consequence. All that matters is that you understand that we six are now the new masters of this planet.

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What's that you say? It's up to the Avengers to take the Sinister 6 down, protect truth, liberty, and justice, and be the big damn hero? Coming right up.

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 11:43
And remember, it wouldn't just be FF teams. One needs to ask themself how they'd feel once the MSU's Legion got their hands on a decent FF member, and locked an already rampaging team's defense at 17 or more.

Not that I'm in favor of it, either, but to be fair, I believe that only the FF would be able to use the ATA card.

EDIT: At least, that's what I remember from when we discussed this proposal before this season.

TMNT99
01/24/2007, 11:43
And remember, it wouldn't just be FF teams. One needs to ask themself how they'd feel once the MSU's Legion got their hands on a decent FF member, and locked an already rampaging team's defense at 17 or more.


No, it is just FF teams. Feats have to be thematic, and there's no way a non-FF team would ever get the feat.

Juggernut
01/24/2007, 12:10
So does this effect my Alpha Flight TA, can I draft wildcards and have them copy it. It's not like it can be abused since I have the only team that can use it, unless some one makes a Beta Flight or a Omega Flight.

TMNT99
01/24/2007, 12:13
So does this effect my Alpha Flight TA, can I draft wildcards and have them copy it. It's not like it can be abused since I have the only team that can use it, unless some one makes a Beta Flight or a Omega Flight.

So far there is no restriction on other Alt TA's. However, your Alpha Flight is restricted to actual Alpha Flight members and wild cards.

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 12:15
I would like reserve judgment until we see the feats from Orgin

"crossing fingers for a nice DC ATA that's not the Society"

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 12:22
Here is the Second pic of 25th anniversary figures if you are interested

Storm Shadow (http://www.yojoe.com/magazine/2007/01/22a.shtml)

Duke (http://www.yojoe.com/magazine/2007/01/23.shtml)

feluwelt
01/24/2007, 12:33
on the ALT team ability affecting wildcards. I would say its fair that it affects wildcards, who have at least 1 vversion with the FF 4 team ability.
Off the top of my head that would be she-hulk and spiderman.

For icebreakers If they are kids I am not realy sure what to play? I never did many social events as kids. I went on a Jessuit Karos Retruit a few times in high school. Where they bassically put us in a room and started sharing stories and then having us come up 1 at a time and share our stories. Then everyone would give you support and everyone would cry and relate it to God/ Then do exercizes how we see God in our lives and in each other. Realy it was a magical wonderful experience, because it was the oposite of high school. Everyone was friends, no one judged you, poeple that hated you in class would hug you and cry with you here, it was unreal. The worst part of the week long retreats were returning to real life.

Jpuffy
01/24/2007, 12:34
Here is the Second pic of 25th anniversary figures if you are interested

Storm Shadow (http://www.yojoe.com/magazine/2007/01/22a.shtml)

Duke (http://www.yojoe.com/magazine/2007/01/23.shtml)

Man those look awesome!!

I'm tempted to buy a couple even though I've never bought any GI Joe action figures before, loved the cartoon though.

doobie711
01/24/2007, 12:39
Unfortunately I can no longer get on hcrealms at work. I'm gonna be bored to death.

Glen Quagmire
01/24/2007, 12:47
I'd be in favor of the Alt Fan 4 rule proposal. I figure the most abusive thing with that card is lending the 19 DV to a figure with ESD, and Turtle's team can already do that (Human Torch).

MSU
01/24/2007, 12:48
And remember, it wouldn't just be FF teams. One needs to ask themself how they'd feel once the MSU's Legion got their hands on a decent FF member, and locked an already rampaging team's defense at 17 or more.


Man...that would be sweet...Chameleon at a 17 or higher defense with Shapechange, Posion, Entangle....I am so sad that he is retired.

Let's be honest here...I have a very thematic team. I play with my thematics. I story post. Yes, I have Huntress, but she is standing in AND it is a good stand it. It fits. Even if it would give me a huge edge with my LoSH, I would never use the Alt FF on my team because that is NOT thematic.

Don't use me as your reason of why the feat should not be allowed....

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 12:58
Man...that would be sweet...Chameleon at a 17 or higher defense with Shapechange, Posion, Entangle....I am so sad that he is retired.

Let's be honest here...I have a very thematic team. I play with my thematics. I story post. Yes, I have Huntress, but she is standing in AND it is a good stand it. It fits. Even if it would give me a huge edge with my LoSH, I would never use the Alt FF on my team because that is NOT thematic.

Don't use me as your reason of why the feat should not be allowed....

I wouldn't want people to use players as reasons for or against rules in this game, since we draft teams every season, not to mention we're having a reboot in S4.

tenketsu
01/24/2007, 13:20
We do not, in fact, use the straight tournament rules here--as evidenced by the alignment rule and thematic feat rules, and this rule that is pre-existing.

Besides which, stating that the FF teams have not dominated with this rule in place has no bearing whatsoever on how likely they are to dominate without it. That's like arguing that because V Supes sucks with the half-range HSS (not that I think he does), there shouldn't be a problem if he has the full range. One does not follow from the other.

And, why is it not thematic for Crystal to have the FF ATA feat if she's not on an FF team? Or Medusa, She-Hulk, etc? Unless ATAs are restricted to being the single free "team feat" only.

CurBludgeon
01/24/2007, 13:34
Pushing for positioning: 4 clicks (including off of R Enchantress's sweet spot)
Arachnos damage: 2 clicks
Detective Chimp pog left out to dry: 5 victory points



Preventing Ghost Widow from escaping and regenerating to heal her teammates? Priceless.

rouge2
01/24/2007, 13:37
Pushing for positioning: 4 clicks (including off of R Enchantress's sweet spot)
Arachnos damage: 2 clicks
Detective Chimp pog left out to dry: 5 victory points



Preventing Ghost Widow from escaping and regenerating to heal her teammates? Priceless.

Can't believe I made stupid mistakes and gave up advantage *twice*. Between this and Tenk's sudden forfeiture, my slim playoff hopes just went Ka-putt. Back to the drawing board I guess.

zakiszak
01/24/2007, 13:38
No offense meant to MSU. Since we already allow TA's to be used pretty across the board to whoever can recruit them (like MAKO on minions of doom) I didn't think the FF would be an exception. All I'm saying is that MSU is a bad person, and there should be special rules where he's only allowed to roll one die.

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 13:40
No offense meant to MSU. Since we already allow TA's to be used pretty across the board to whoever can recruit them (like MAKO on minions of doom) I didn't think the FF would be an exception. All I'm saying is that MSU is a bad person, and there should be special rules where he's only allowed to roll one die.

I know you caught ME off guard there at the end. :laugh:

Tanis11
01/24/2007, 13:43
No offense meant to MSU. Since we already allow TA's to be used pretty across the board to whoever can recruit them (like MAKO on minions of doom) I didn't think the FF would be an exception. All I'm saying is that MSU is a bad person, and there should be special rules where he's only allowed to roll one die.

Here here! I agree with the proposal that MSU is a bad person and should only be allowed to roll one die for all attack rolls.

And also, Chameleon should not have poison...and..and...

;)

zakiszak
01/24/2007, 13:46
Anybody watching Ultimate Brotherhood vs. Marauders? Great match. The Ultimate Brotherhood are having their match of the season, and Magneto may vanquish the whole team the way it's going. Really great strategies happening on both sides, a great mix of tactics and luck. Magneto making his breakaway to RS Scalphunter just now, awesome!

Tanis11
01/24/2007, 14:04
Anybody have the new link to the Irony dice server? pbe is seriously sucking for me

MSU
01/24/2007, 14:34
All I'm saying is that MSU is a bad person, and there should be special rules where he's only allowed to roll one die.

(and I would still beat you)

(pulls out notebook)

So you are first to suffer....

Here here! I agree with the proposal that MSU is a bad person and should only be allowed to roll one die for all attack rolls.

And also, Chameleon should not have poison...and..and...

;)

And you sir have made second on that list...congratulations!

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 14:37
And you sir have made second on that list...congratulations!


Watch out Kazz has the rights to the "list" you may need to call it something else

mbauers
01/24/2007, 14:53
Watch out Kazz has the rights to the "list" you may need to call it something else

Hey Stepper, you gonna win with the Hellfire Club or what?

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 15:15
Hey Stepper, you gonna win with the Hellfire Club or what?

Game has to start first....

Tanis11
01/24/2007, 15:51
(and I would still beat you)

(pulls out notebook)

So you are first to suffer....



And you sir have made second on that list...congratulations!

2nd only?? I'm insulted! I should be first since I already suffered! ;)

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 15:52
OK the game is 4 turns in this has to trump the Stepp-out®

I offer concession. Do you accept my forfeiture?

JacinB
01/24/2007, 16:14
Nothing trumps the Stepp-out.

Though, mid-game concession offers can now official be called 'Tenking it'.

Tanis11
01/24/2007, 16:23
Nothing trumps the Stepp-out.

Though, mid-game concession offers can now official be called 'Tenking it'.

I dunno about Tenking it...it doesn't go over smoothly..."Tenk down" perhaps?

zakiszak
01/24/2007, 16:23
I was a little curious as to what inspired that, hopefully Tenk will enlighten.

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 16:24
I'll accept that please note the Stepp-out® is now a registered trademark of the Stepp foundation for advanced Heroclix tactics

CurBludgeon
01/24/2007, 16:24
Nothing trumps the Stepp-out.

Though, mid-game concession offers can now official be called 'Tenking it'.

If that offer is official, with the IJL gaining an 800 point sweep, then they take 9th place in the DC Division, at 144 points more than the JLA. So they'll be praying really hard that Iceman gets denied internet access for the next two plus weeks.

It would look like this, currently.

Team W L Victory Points
LoSH 5 0 2,462
Sentinels of Magic 4 1 2,672
The Outsiders 4 1 2,043
Batman Enemies 4 2 2,556
Young Justice 4 2 1,805
Teen Titans 3 2 2,038
JSA 3 3 2,798
JLI 3 3 2,437
==============================================================
Injustice League 3 3 2,196
==============================================================
JLA 3 3 2,052
The Judges 2 3 1,698
Dark Judges 2 3 1,262
Green Lantern Corp 2 3 1,144
Secret Six 2 4 1,967
Fatal Five 2 4 1,633
The Society 1 4 1,180
BPRD 1 4 1,035
JLE 1 4 981

Red = Playoff Line of Death
Blue = Line of Death should the Outsiders be excluded
Green = Regular Season completed

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 16:25
I was a little curious as to what inspired that, hopefully Tenk will enlighten.


He is 4 - 1 and doesn't want any injuries going into the playoff, He was unaware of the No-contest ruling. I understanding the move I just had to give him grief for it

zakiszak
01/24/2007, 16:30
Ah I say

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 16:38
He is 4 - 1 and doesn't want any injuries going into the playoff, He was unaware of the No-contest ruling. I understanding the move I just had to give him grief for it

I wish I had put myself in position to make such a move. I have some injuries for the first round of the playoffs that are going to be hard to deal with.

CurBludgeon
01/24/2007, 16:42
I wish I had put myself in position to make such a move. I have some injuries for the first round of the playoffs that are going to be hard to deal with.

That brings up an interesting rules question. With Ra's suffering a -1 to his defense, how does that affect your team ability? I'd think it would be considered a modifier, so the replacement attack values would be 11 for his teammates (on his U's top click, IIRC), and not 10, but then...I dunno.

JacinB
01/24/2007, 16:44
I have some injuries for the first round of the playoffs that are going to be hard to deal with.
You're welcome! :)

Tanis11
01/24/2007, 16:45
If that offer is official, with the IJL gaining an 800 point sweep, then they take 9th place in the DC Division, at 144 points more than the JLA. So they'll be praying really hard that Iceman gets denied internet access for the next two plus weeks.

It would look like this, currently.

Team W L Victory Points
LoSH 5 0 2,462
Sentinels of Magic 4 1 2,672
The Outsiders 4 1 2,043
Batman Enemies 4 2 2,556
Young Justice 4 2 1,805
Teen Titans 3 2 2,038
JSA 3 3 2,798
JLI 3 3 2,437
==============================================================
Injustice League 3 3 2,196
==============================================================
JLA 3 3 2,052
The Judges 2 3 1,698
Dark Judges 2 3 1,262
Green Lantern Corp 2 3 1,144
Secret Six 2 4 1,967
Fatal Five 2 4 1,633
The Society 1 4 1,180
BPRD 1 4 1,035
JLE 1 4 981

Red = Playoff Line of Death
Blue = Line of Death should the Outsiders be excluded
Green = Regular Season completed



*sobs very loudly*

All my hopes...what little I had left...gone! GONE I say!

*sobs*

But then again the Judges stand a very good chance of making that 8th spot...before tenk's forfeiture, I had a chance depending on two things...one, Iceman doesn't show...and two, the Judges don't score more than like 405 points. But at looking how that games going...I don't think I woulda made it to the playoffs. He's doing really well and could still take that 8th spot if Iceman doesn't show...

CurBludgeon
01/24/2007, 16:48
Honestly, I'm really not sure how Tenk's concession will play out. Technically, they could just play the passing game all day until turn 15, in which case the IJL would win on points, but certainly not by 800 - 0. More like 436ish to 364ish, as they've only KOed Speedy.

And that would drop them by the JLA.

So IAM138 will need to see if Turtle can confirm Tenk's forfeit as an 800 point gain or not before he accepts.

Tanis11
01/24/2007, 16:52
Honestly, I'm really not sure how Tenk's concession will play out. Technically, they could just play the passing game all day until turn 15, in which case the IJL would win on points, but certainly not by 800 - 0. More like 436ish to 364ish, as they've only KOed Speedy.

And that would drop them by the JLA.

So IAM138 will need to see if Turtle can confirm Tenk's forfeit as an 800 point gain or not before he accepts.

Y..you mean th..there might still be...be hope? *sniffle*

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 16:53
That brings up an interesting rules question. With Ra's suffering a -1 to his defense, how does that affect your team ability? I'd think it would be considered a modifier, so the replacement attack values would be 11 for his teammates (on his U's top click, IIRC), and not 10, but then...I dunno.

I have a few compounding questions with that, but I feel like I've asked them before, and I can't find where I asked them...... :(

For example, whether or not the modifier takes place before or after the replacement.

CurBludgeon
01/24/2007, 16:54
Y..you mean th..there might still be...be hope? *sniffle*

Sure. All you need are some milk and cookies.

And a willingness to grovel.

Then take the milk and cookies and offer them to Tenk and beg him to take back the forfeit offer and kick the IJL's tush.

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 16:57
Y..you mean th..there might still be...be hope? *sniffle*

Hope for me in the playoffs? Only if I don't get seeded agianst Stepper. Because if I do, then it's game over. Anybody else, I at least have a snowball's chance.

zakiszak
01/24/2007, 16:57
God I love how tight this race is.

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 16:59
Hope for me in the playoffs? Only if I don't get seeded agianst Stepper. Because if I do, then it's game over. Anybody else, I at least have a snowball's chance.


I seem to remember a sound thumping that you gave me last year

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 17:01
I seem to remember a sound thumping that you gave me last year

Much different time, then.
In the interest of keeping my playoff chances alive, I won't divulge why it's different now, but I'm assuming you can figure that out pretty easily.

Stepper79
01/24/2007, 17:05
Much different time, then.
In the interest of keeping my playoff chances alive, I won't divulge why it's different now, but I'm assuming you can figure that out pretty easily.


we can talk about it during hardwood spades later :)

Tanis11
01/24/2007, 17:06
Sure. All you need are some milk and cookies.

And a willingness to grovel.

Then take the milk and cookies and offer them to Tenk and beg him to take back the forfeit offer and kick the IJL's tush.

*dashes off to make some milk and cookies and to perfect his grovelling skills*

GreatArelius1
01/24/2007, 17:18
I just want a chance at LoSH, darn rookies ;)

Jackofhearts2005
01/24/2007, 17:26
I would like reserve judgment until we see the feats from Orgin

"crossing fingers for a nice DC ATA that's not the Society"
Crosses fingers for a nice DC ATA that IS the Society, cause the one we have now sucks (If it was an ATA for Calculator or Superman Enemys, I would love it)

I'm not gonna pretend I'm not in the playoffs because of my team feat, but with all honesty, a team feat that needs the IL TA, when the only Society members that have said TA are:

1)E Solomon Grundy (already taken)
2)E Black Manta (theres no way I could upgrade him to the E, and even then he isn't worth the points)
3)LE Barbara Ann Minerva (I would have to upgrade Cheetah 3 times. Currently she has 1 SA and no KOs)

is pretty much the same as not having a team feat at all.

Thawmus
01/24/2007, 17:33
With our luck, DC will get an ATA for the WORTHLESS Batman Enemy TA....

:laugh:

MSU
01/24/2007, 17:33
I just want a chance at LoSH, darn rookies ;)

In the immortal words of Kirsten Dunst....

"Bring it on!"

OR

In the immortal words of Al Bundy...

"Let's rock!"

vicious x
01/24/2007, 17:37
okay the WCA just won their game, now hoping 650pts is good enough :nervous:
sorry turtle I don't think any 3-3 teams will make it now

mbauers
01/24/2007, 18:07
okay the WCA just won their game, now hoping 650pts is good enough :nervous:
sorry turtle I don't think any 3-3 teams will make it now

Yeah, I think I'd need a complete sweep to beat that and, although the dice rolls in particular and the game are in my favor right now, I have Joystick (Karnak) on her last click next to 3 opponents. Oh yeah, and there is the matter of the whole "uninjured Juggernaut thing" I have to deal with. Oh yeah, and Fixer is about to get smacked off of his outwit.

Ok, so, um, about that sweep... :disappoin


And speaking of Fixer, I have an AST question. If Fixer outwits someones super senses and a teammate shoots that target for 1, I know I get an AST. However, if the figure is still showing super senses and another one of my teammates shoots that figure (with SS still being outwitted) does Fixer get another AST?

I know you can only get one AST per action, but this is an instance of one outwit helping two successful actions.

Thanks.

GreatArelius1
01/24/2007, 18:10
I dont think I will be playing the Luckiest of Super heroes (LoSH) :) Cause I doubt Iceman will return, just a feeling and that making me 7th playing Sentinels of Magic. Curses!!

CurBludgeon
01/24/2007, 18:25
I dont think I will be playing the Luckiest of Super heroes (LoSH) :) Cause I doubt Iceman will return, just a feeling and that making me 7th playing Sentinels of Magic. Curses!!

If it makes you feel better, I too, am a reader of Pride of Baghdad. So at least you'll know you're facing someone with good reading taste. ;)