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Stepper79
04/19/2007, 21:02
here is what he refers to

Yep I just found him and I think he rocks!!!
http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=13043

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AT's edit:

From BlueBlazer:

#061 LE Mandarin
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 12 /
Points: 156
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal911173910173991738916388152881527814277141KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOObviously, the bold, underline, italic numbers are his special character power slots.

Special Powers from Panther Cult:

SPEED:
"Left Hand of the Mandarin" = The Mandarin can use Energy Explosion, Incapacitate and Mind Control.

ATTACK:
"Right Hand of the Mandarin" = The Mandarin can use Barrier, Force Blast, Quake, Smoke Cloud and Telekinesis.

zakiszak
04/19/2007, 21:08
Holy ####.

He's very take downable by a high offense squad (Leemac's Shield would obliterate him), but if you don't just put him right down he can do amazing things. With a good crew of under 50 point guys, lots of fodder to get in the way of the opponents, he could really be awful.

GreatArelius1
04/19/2007, 21:32
Dont care for Mandarin the character, so will keep my old one. I will say the white power is useful for Mandarin since he has so many abilities.

MSU
04/19/2007, 22:02
Can he use ANY of those powers or ALL of those powers? I am assuming he can pick and choose, right?

zakiszak
04/19/2007, 22:10
I'm.....I'm assuming it's pick and choose and he doesn't just let loose with a mind controlling exploding incap blast, but.......It's kind of worded that he can.

tenketsu
04/19/2007, 22:22
First reaction: My god, that's a terrible figure for the points.

Second reaction: Apparently dual-power slots were way too low, since Mandarin has 5 powers in a single slot...

Very cool, and says good things about the potential for the other chars in the set... But man, he's a stinker... KC Batman Mark II--Over 150 points worth of utility powers with no damage reducers/avoiders/HSS and a defense less than 18 = a tasty point pinata for your opponent.

da-Craig-O
04/19/2007, 23:06
First reaction: My god, that's a terrible figure for the points.

Second reaction: Apparently dual-power slots were way too low, since Mandarin has 5 powers in a single slot...

Very cool, and says good things about the potential for the other chars in the set... But man, he's a stinker... KC Batman Mark II--Over 150 points worth of utility powers with no damage reducers/avoiders/HSS and a defense less than 18 = a tasty point pinata for your opponent.

I sort of disagree with this assessment. I think his 'damage reducer' is his 12 range. With the proper teammates, he will hang back and pick people apart.

Of course, I really like The Dark Knight as well so there you go. ;)

Thawmus
04/19/2007, 23:12
Can he use ANY of those powers or ALL of those powers? I am assuming he can pick and choose, right?

He can use all of them, but since none of them are free actions, nor allow for a ranged or close combat action, you'll never use two of them at the same time.

If he had a special power that gave him outwit, perplex, probability control, and energy explosion, then he could outwit a defense, perplex up his attack, perform an energy explosion attack, and re-roll if he misses.

Which isn't the case. But I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Black Panther with such a combo.

Jackofhearts2005
04/19/2007, 23:52
On one hand I like the concept of him having all those powers for all the rings, but on the other hand....why use smoke cloud when you could use barrier? Why use any of those powers besides tk and barrier? One target EE and incap are poor when you have 3 damage outwit.

Also, having a 12 range and outwit that only works from 10 squares away is a bit....problematic.

kontrol
04/20/2007, 10:25
I think I'm including the Iron Man Rogue team as part of my list of wants for next season.

Doombot 3.1
04/20/2007, 10:57
My 2 cents on the new Mandarin:

1. Those are some pretty awful special powers. He's saddled with (and presumably paid for) multiple clicks of energy explosion, force blast, smoke cloud, and quake. TK, while not a useless power, is really not a great addition to a 156-point figure. While I know there are circumstances where all of those powers can come in handy, they tend to be fairly limited circumstances. He would have been a better figure if he didn't have to pay for a half dozen nearly useless powers.

2. While he has some pretty useful regular powers on his dial, his powers don't create a lot of synergy. He can outwit, but to do that, he has to get within 10 squares, which wastes his 12 range. He can mind control a figure, but there can't be that many situations where it's better to mind control another figure instead of, oh, nailing them with psychic blast for 3 damage. He's can put up a barrier, but again, why do that when you can psychic blast for 3 damage instead?

The lack of synergy really hurts him because he pays for all of those powers, but they don't work together well.

Overall verdict: A lot of powers. Some are useless. The useful ones don't work together well. He would have been a much better and cheaper figure if Seth had settled on a smaller number of powers that work together better.

JacinB
04/20/2007, 11:51
Mandarin + Mental Shields + Force Field = Sick.

tenketsu
04/20/2007, 12:00
Mandarin + Mental Shields + Force Field = Sick.

Remember that the White Powers don't count as prereqs for feats, so for large chunks of his dial he wouldn't be able to use those...

Melkhor
04/20/2007, 12:03
Remember that the White Powers don't count as prereqs for feats, so for large chunks of his dial he wouldn't be able to use those...

Forcefield is a bit iffy there, yes. But he can use Mental Shields for all of his dial, except for two clicks (4 and 8). Remeber, Willpower qualifies you for Mental Shields too ;)

Stepper79
04/20/2007, 12:03
for those of you who didn't get any zombie chase figures here may be the next best thing

http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=10873

tenketsu
04/20/2007, 12:21
Forcefield is a bit iffy there, yes. But he can use Mental Shields for all of his dial, except for two clicks (4 and 8). Remeber, Willpower qualifies you for Mental Shields too ;)

Aha, good catch. Looks like they thought that one through.

MSU
04/20/2007, 13:44
for those of you who didn't get any zombie chase figures here may be the next best thing

http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=10873

I love minimates!!

TMNT99
04/20/2007, 14:01
I like Mandarin, just because for 156 pts, he doesn't have to be your whole force in a 300 pt game.

I like his stats, I like that they gave him options, he's not a game-killer, but I think in the new enviornment he'll be fun to play.

Peers
04/20/2007, 14:13
I think that's exactly the point... there's not many situations where you're rather use Mind Control, or Barrier, or Smoke Cloud, or TK, instead of doing three damage.

But if you find yourself in -any- of those situations, you're covered.

MSU
04/20/2007, 14:14
On a 300 point game though, he is a lot of points to have as "support". In bigger point games he will be MUCH more useful But in a standard 300, I think he costs too much for what he brings.

CurBludgeon
04/20/2007, 14:17
I like Smarties.

They are clearly the superior candy on Fridays when you wish the weekend would hurry up and get here already.

Tanis11
04/20/2007, 14:28
Hey Turtle's here! Guess he found a place to get online while he's in Seattle!....Um..ARE you in Seattle?

JacinB
04/20/2007, 14:31
Possible Season 4 Team (after much, much trading):

Draft:
Buffy [Col. Logan] - 70pts.
Angel [R Logan] - 40pts.
Spike [R Blade (MM)] - 28pts.
Tara [R Psylocke (AW)] - 45pts.

Trade for:
Faith [R Kabuki] - 33pts.
Willow [R Jinx] - 44pts.
Xander [V Capt. Ben Daimio] - 65pts.
Anya [R Hellbaby] - 30pts.

MSU
04/20/2007, 14:32
I am in Montgomery, AL (hence, the "Big brother-free" posting abilities). Technically I am in a business center because my room is not ready.

WHY IS IT QUIET ON THE DAY I HAVE 2 HOURS TO KILL!!!

MSU
04/20/2007, 14:33
Giles = Oracle on the card. :)

CurBludgeon
04/20/2007, 14:38
Possible Season 4 Team:

Hank - BT Franklin Richards, 2
Dean - BT Paper Boy, 3
Thaddeus Venture - R Hydra Medic, 12
Brock Samson - LE Galactus, 1800

Stepper79
04/20/2007, 14:38
well Xander has been referring to himself as Col Fury in the new comics so that may be a sub.

Jackofhearts2005
04/20/2007, 14:39
Possible Season 4 Team (after much, much trading):

Angel [R Logan] - 40pts.

Good luck. You've got at least 3 people thinking of fielding X-Men teams with Wolverine as a member.

TMNT99
04/20/2007, 14:48
Hey Turtle's here! Guess he found a place to get online while he's in Seattle!....Um..ARE you in Seattle?

Yea, slept in, walked outside on a beautiful day, secured a car from my friend, now using his comp until I meet my mom and sister for lunch. So I thought I'd get some stuff done.

Too bad Shear has yet to repsond about my RPSC game :cry:

TMNT99
04/20/2007, 14:52
Also, working my way through the list of "West Coast Only" restaurants that I must go to.

Last night after flight, Jack in the Box (hmm.. Ultimate Cheeseburger *gargle sound*)

Lunch will be Red Robin (they have some on the east coast, but the cloest to me is 40 minutes)

Dinner, Bucca di Beppos!

CurBludgeon
04/20/2007, 14:54
Dinner, Bucca di Beppos!

Dude, they've got Buca over in IL.

Though Tony Roma's is a lot more haphazard, as you can see here (http://www.tonyromas.com/files/locations.asp).

Stepper79
04/20/2007, 14:57
Bucca is ok I prefer Maggianos http://www.maggianos.com/locations/

if in TX goto Papasito's for tex mex and in parts of Alabama and Atlanta go to Dreamland for BBQ

MSU
04/20/2007, 14:58
Dreamland? I wonder if there is one in Montgomery...

TMNT99
04/20/2007, 15:10
Season 4

E Batman (IO) 47 pts
R Black Lightning 48 pts
R Speedy 28 pts
R Red Tornado 42 pts
R Hawkgirl 27 pts

192

R Superman (CD) 105 pts (90 w/ bonus)
R Green Lantern (UL) 93 pts (83 w/ bonus)
R Vixen 33 pts (23 w/ bonus)

196

Not enough pts for Wonder Woman or Black Canary, but BC's dial stinks.

TMNT99
04/20/2007, 15:10
So what figures do you hope to see in Justice League?

Mine, EDIT: Guy Gardner, re-make Black Canary, Flash (Barry), re-make Blue Beetle (Ted)

Stepper79
04/20/2007, 15:11
Dreamland? I wonder if there is one in Montgomery...


best damn Ribs I have ever had

Montgomery
109 Eastern Blvd.
Montgomery, AL 36117
(334) 273-RIBS

http://www.dreamlandbbq.com/default.aspx?id=2

MSU
04/20/2007, 15:11
what JL team is that?

TMNT99
04/20/2007, 15:13
what JL team is that?

The current Brad Meltzer team.

MSU
04/20/2007, 15:15
So what figures do you hope to see in Justice League?

Mine, EDIT: Guy Gardner, re-make Black Canary, Flash (Barry), re-make Blue Beetle (Ted)

remade Huntress, Black Canary, Batgirl (cain), Doomsday

Shining Knight and Vigilante, Toyman (i need my legion of doom team to be complete!!)

JacinB
04/20/2007, 15:15
what JL team is that?
The modern one that Metzler is writing.

Thawmus
04/20/2007, 15:16
Sweet, I got my team feat!

And this time it's NOT inspiring command! :devious:

MSU
04/20/2007, 15:16
I should have picked it up but I just couldn't afford another title right now. I should drop a few dead weight ones (Batman/Superman...I am looking at you!) but I keep hoping it will pick up again.

Jpuffy
04/20/2007, 15:17
So what figures do you hope to see in Justice League?

Mine, EDIT: Guy Gardner, re-make Black Canary, Flash (Barry), re-make Blue Beetle (Ted)

I'd love to see some "Red Son" characters made, especially Batman, Superman and Hal Jordan.

Other than that though I think since its JL themed I should see a lot of characters I like and am familiar with so it should be a great set. Although I'm probably more excited about Avengers, since were getting a 616 Cap, Ultimates, Red Skull w/ Cosmic Cube and lots of other stuff that I'm really excited about.

MSU
04/20/2007, 15:17
I got mine as well...not a lot for my team that can work for everyone so I decided to go with something that everyone can use and not break the bank. NO more siphon power.

Stepper79
04/20/2007, 15:17
So what figures do you hope to see in Justice League?

Mine, EDIT: Guy Gardner, re-make Black Canary, Flash (Barry), re-make Blue Beetle (Ted)


Nightwing, Green Arrow (with trick arrow), plastic man, and the royal flush gang

MSU
04/20/2007, 15:19
I would LOVE the royal flush gang! You don't see them much anymore.

zakiszak
04/20/2007, 15:20
I've lived on the west coast a year and a half now, and while I miss NY very much, the restaurants/fast food out here really dominates. I think it's the prevalence of more small chains. Although NY fast food Chinese is much better.

Stepper79
04/20/2007, 15:22
I would LOVE the royal flush gang! You don't see them much anymore.


they seem to show up in the JLU cartoon or comics alot

goto dreamland while in Montgomery trust me

MSU
04/20/2007, 15:23
Nothing beats local restaurants anywhere...the non-chain places that you cannot find anywhere else in the country.

While traveling in the south, I have found hidden treasures of BBQ and southern cooking (I love southern cooking!). There is this place in Atlanta which has the best fried chicken and fried green tomatoes in the world. South City Kitchen (I think...I know where it is, just never the name) or this seafood restaurant in Mobile which has the best blackened catfish I have ever tasted (as well as good Banana pudding). A place in KC, KS is where I had the best BBQ I have ever had in my entire life. Little hole in the wall place but it was the best sauce.

I try to never eat at chain restaurants while traveling...except for Sonic. Damn their milkshakes!!!

zakiszak
04/20/2007, 15:27
There aren't many characters in DC that haven't been made at all I'm hoping for, but there are a huge number of characters who deserve remakes.

A boost to the Green Arrow family will be great, with a new Oliver & our first Connor, and I hope a new Black Canary.

I'd love to see a new Batgirl & Lady Shiva.

A new Deathstroke. The old is still a great figure, but has started to fall behind the new figures with their fancy non-front loaded dials.

Ted Kord Blue Beetle.

More New Gods. Baron Vundebar.

da-Craig-O
04/20/2007, 15:27
Possible Season 4 Team:

Hank - BT Franklin Richards, 2
Dean - BT Paper Boy, 3
Thaddeus Venture - R Hydra Medic, 12
Brock Samson - LE Galactus, 1800


Cur = my new hero

One item though. Hank is WAAAAYYY better than Dean.

"I cut my tongue on the mouth slit."

"Keep it out of there."

"I can't....it's MADDENING!!"

JacinB
04/20/2007, 15:31
So what figures do you hope to see in Justice League?

Mine, EDIT: Guy Gardner, re-make Black Canary, Flash (Barry), re-make Blue Beetle (Ted)
1) Re-made Black Canary,
2) Re-made Huntress,
3) Re-made Shiva,
4) Re-made Batgirl (Cassandra Cain),
5) Re-made Nightwing (yes, I know ... not until the Teen Titans release),
6) Supergirl (Linda Danvers ... though the U Superman from Origins is a GREAT stand-in),
7) Scandal Savage,
8) Ragdoll, and
9) Parademon.

coyotejack
04/20/2007, 15:32
So what figures do you hope to see in Justice League?

Mine, EDIT: Guy Gardner, re-make Black Canary, Flash (Barry), re-make Blue Beetle (Ted)

Definitely want to see a kick butt Canary, Huntress, and Shiva. I wouldn't mind seeing a new Despero, maybe going back to the old-school "goofy alien with a fin on his head". :laugh:

JacinB
04/20/2007, 15:33
A place in KC, KS is where I had the best BBQ I have ever had in my entire life. Little hole in the wall place but it was the best sauce.
You remember which one ... ?

Peers
04/20/2007, 15:47
The one figure I really want to see DC make probably won't be in Justice League -or- Teen Titans... I'd love to see a Skyrocket. But then, I'm the (only) person who bought Power Company... tho she did get a panel of face-time in Infinite Crisis and a panel of face-time in Birds of Prey OYL...

... meh. Mach-I/III/IV will be a good sub for her if I decide to use her next season.

JacinB
04/20/2007, 15:48
Good luck. You've got at least 3 people thinking of fielding X-Men teams with Wolverine as a member.
And yet, if you draft early enough, there'd be no Wolverines for ANY of the X-Men or Avengers teams. :grin:

Jackofhearts2005
04/20/2007, 15:54
I can wait a little longer for certain characters (Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batgirl, Kid Devil, Cyborg) if I know they'll be in teen titans. (I find it odd that Robin is gonna be in Justice League with Teen Titans around the corner.)

I want a new Doomsday, a new Ollie Green Arrow, a and new Black Canary.
New figures I want Lobo of course (one on the bike, one without, one his new pirate look, one his old biker look), Connor, Psycho Pirate, and the rest of the secret 6.

CurBludgeon
04/20/2007, 15:54
I try to never eat at chain restaurants while traveling.

You're probably already a fan of it, but Chowhound is your friend.

Jackofhearts2005
04/20/2007, 15:55
And yet, if you draft early enough, there'd be no Wolverines for ANY of the X-Men or Avengers teams. :grin:
Nah. He'd be starting member of whatever X-team has highest preference.
I don't think you can have a sub as part of your starting 200.

CurBludgeon
04/20/2007, 15:56
I'd love to see a new Ollie, but when he unveiled his OYL swordsman skills, did anybody else cringe and think, "Noooo! Now his next clix version will be far less efficient!"

CurBludgeon
04/20/2007, 15:58
Cur = my new hero

One item though. Hank is WAAAAYYY better than Dean.

And so he is. Franklin Richards is cheaper AND more likely to do damage than Paper Boy. :cheeky:

Jackofhearts2005
04/20/2007, 15:58
I'd love to see a new Ollie, but when he unveiled his OYL swordsman skills, did anybody else cringe and think, "Noooo! Now his next clix version will be far less efficient!"
I did! I also said "noooooo don't make him an uber fighter! Being an amazing archer but only a brawler in close combat is part of his charm."

TMNT99
04/20/2007, 16:08
Ok, working hard to get to a place where I can announce trades.

Waiting on 9 players to submit their team feats (mostly marvel)

However, by Monday, if they haven't, I'll just assign the one, ad we should be on the announcement of trades.

SomaCruz42
04/20/2007, 16:12
w00t!


If you're ever in Pensacola, go by Jerry's Drive-In. Its not a drive-in. And it has the best food ever.

zakiszak
04/20/2007, 16:13
Thanks Turtle

Jackofhearts2005
04/20/2007, 16:14
Yes, thanks. :grin:

MSU
04/20/2007, 16:19
You're probably already a fan of it, but Chowhound is your friend.

We are not acquainted...what is this Chowhound?

CurBludgeon
04/20/2007, 16:22
http://www.chowhound.com/

It's a foodie board where people give their own takes and recommendations on local places. And since it's got message boards for the whole country, you're set. Check it out.

MSU
04/20/2007, 16:22
You remember which one ... ?

I don't know...I was driven there by a friends' family. It was right over the bridge, maybe 5 minutes or so in KN. Maybe 5 or 6 tables. Honestly, the best BBQ ever. The baked beans were heavenly. The coleslaw was heavenly. I heard the other sides were good too but I was too busy stuffing roast beef, ribs, chicken, turkey, and brisket into my mouth.

We ordered platters of stuff...I can find out hte place when I get back to the office and ask my friend (she is from KC, KS and her parents live there and took us out when we are all there for a convention).

Her dad is a BBQ critique with some newspaper/society of BBQ or something and said this place was the best in all of KS and MO. He apparently has eaten at all of them. Seriously Jacin...most awesome food ever. If you like BBQ...

Tanis11
04/20/2007, 16:23
well Xander has been referring to himself as Col Fury in the new comics so that may be a sub.

Actually its SGT. Fury since he prefer Fury in his Howling Commando days. ;)

MSU
04/20/2007, 16:24
http://www.chowhound.com/

It's a foodie board where people give their own takes and recommendations on local places. And since it's got message boards for the whole country, you're set. Check it out.

We are now acquainted, thanks!!!!

zakiszak
04/20/2007, 16:54
How about this for our mid-season scenario game:

Use your roster as subs for another team, the characters of which cannot exist in clix form (ex. Team Venture!).

Team Birdman

Harvey Birdman: LE Falcon w/ leadership

Avenger: Krypto

Peanut: R Hawkeye (Energy Shield & Power Bands)

Phil Ken Sabben: Black Panther

Myron Reducto: The Wasp

Judge Mentok the Mindtaker: Karma

JacinB
04/20/2007, 16:59
I was thinking of offering to run one of my Heroes vs. Horrors scenarios for the mid-season or post-season games ...

da-Craig-O
04/20/2007, 17:03
And so he is. Franklin Richards is cheaper AND more likely to do damage than Paper Boy. :cheeky:

Well that makes sense. I was thinking even better though. Like Carol Ferris levels. :)

"Drink it, slave!"

Jackofhearts2005
04/20/2007, 17:12
I was thinking of offering to run one of my Heroes vs. Horrors scenarios for the mid-season or post-season games ...
Explain this heroes vs horrors thing you speak of.

CaptainNifty
04/20/2007, 17:15
Superman and Pals are now Fortified!

da-Craig-O
04/20/2007, 17:17
Superman and Pals are now Fortified!

Hmmm....anyone else just poo a little?

Tanis11
04/20/2007, 17:19
Hmmm....anyone else just poo a little?

Nope..all urine over here

CaptainNifty
04/20/2007, 17:19
Woo-hoo! New guy inspires poo!--and other bodily excretions.

Kazzigum
04/20/2007, 17:19
I am so confused...the future Kara is a different Kara? I am so behind in my reading?!?!?!?! Can someone explain what Jacin is talking about?


See? And this is why one should stick to Marvel. I believe you were talking about Marvel and convoluted some time ago...

<runs to bake MSU a big, Fat DC crow pie.>

Jackofhearts2005
04/20/2007, 17:19
The Society traded in our ATA for Trickshot.

Trickshotting Sinestro+Dr. Light+hopeful but inprobable Myrlyn (another want from Justice League) > maybe not being able to outwit Light and Jinx whenever Shadow Thief happens to be around.

SomaCruz42
04/20/2007, 17:20
Hmmm....anyone else just poo a little?

Nah, they dont scare me.







I'm Marvel. :cool:

Jackofhearts2005
04/20/2007, 17:21
Looks like Slade will need to get himself some Thwart if we face the Superfriends.

Thawmus
04/20/2007, 17:22
Hmmm....anyone else just poo a little?

No, because the Batman Enemies will THWART them at every turn. ;)

JacinB
04/20/2007, 17:23
Explain this heroes vs horrors thing you speak of.
I've got a few scenarios created, such as 'Aliens' and 'Dawn of the Dead', where HeroClix teams gather together to take on a HorrorClix foe run by a single player. Basically, it recreates a movie, using HorrorClix figures.

In 'Aliens', the Heroes are sent to eradicate a group of 'hostile xenoforms' in a newly discovered buried alien structure in the Antarctic. When they get there, they do battle with Aliens, rescue survivors, and try to destroy the Alien Queen (and aide or avoid the Predator).

In 'Dawn', the Heroes defend a mall from an overwhelming horde of Zombies. They, too, rescue survivors and attempt to destroy as many of the zombies as they can without being overrun.

Stepper79
04/20/2007, 17:26
Hmmm....anyone else just poo a little?


SHAZAM has had fortitude since game two season 1 and you see what happened there, oh and Mr T will be actively seeking thwart to go with the JSA's Coordination

Tanis11
04/20/2007, 17:27
I've got a few scenarios created, such as 'Aliens' and 'Dawn of the Dead', where HeroClix teams gather together to take on a HorrorClix foe run by a single player. Basically, it recreates a movie, using HorrorClix figures.

In 'Aliens', the Heroes are sent to eradicate a group of 'hostile xenoforms' in a newly discovered buried alien structure in the Antarctic. When they get there, they do battle with Aliens, rescue survivors, and try to destroy the Alien Queen (and aide or avoid the Predator).

In 'Dawn', the Heroes defend a mall from an overwhelming horde of Zombies. They, too, rescue survivors and attempt to destroy as many of the zombies as they can without being overrun.

What do you do with the powers? Keep the horrorclix powers? Or use the heroclix rules on whatever colors are on the dial?

vicious x
04/20/2007, 17:29
I've got a few scenarios created, such as 'Aliens' and 'Dawn of the Dead', where HeroClix teams gather together to take on a HorrorClix foe run by a single player. Basically, it recreates a movie, using HorrorClix figures.

In 'Aliens', the Heroes are sent to eradicate a group of 'hostile xenoforms' in a newly discovered buried alien structure in the Antarctic. When they get there, they do battle with Aliens, rescue survivors, and try to destroy the Alien Queen (and aide or avoid the Predator).

In 'Dawn', the Heroes defend a mall from an overwhelming horde of Zombies. They, too, rescue survivors and attempt to destroy as many of the zombies as they can without being overrun.

well the marvel zombies can run the zombie team and gain stats too :)
we can defend the mall in stanbury :p

da-Craig-O
04/20/2007, 17:30
SHAZAM has had fortitude since game two season 1 and you see what happened there, oh and Mr T will be actively seeking thwart to go with the JSA's Coordination

Yeah...you won the Superbowl. That's what I'm saying.

I'm not really scared, per se. But in this league, the ability to avoid Outwit is pretty impressive because it is not a foregone conclusion in many cases. Just ask Dredd. :cool:

Jackofhearts2005
04/20/2007, 17:30
I've got a few scenarios created, such as 'Aliens' and 'Dawn of the Dead', where HeroClix teams gather together to take on a HorrorClix foe run by a single player. Basically, it recreates a movie, using HorrorClix figures.

In 'Aliens', the Heroes are sent to eradicate a group of 'hostile xenoforms' in a newly discovered buried alien structure in the Antarctic. When they get there, they do battle with Aliens, rescue survivors, and try to destroy the Alien Queen (and aide or avoid the Predator).

In 'Dawn', the Heroes defend a mall from an overwhelming horde of Zombies. They, too, rescue survivors and attempt to destroy as many of the zombies as they can without being overrun.
That all sounds like an amazing amount of fun.

JacinB
04/20/2007, 17:32
What do you do with the powers? Keep the horrorclix powers? Or use the heroclix rules on whatever colors are on the dial?
All HorrorClix figures use their HorrorClix rules (including those on their card, Frenzy, the built-in Willpower, etc.).

MSU
04/20/2007, 17:35
I ain't worried...I LOVE thwart. Bring it on Supes Allies!

Coordination and LoSH will work just fine....

Tanis11
04/20/2007, 17:39
All HorrorClix figures use their HorrorClix rules (including those on their card, Frenzy, the built-in Willpower, etc.).

I've been trying to ask one of the judges at our local shop to do the same thing...although he doesn't have any Aliens...I could let him borrow mine though...I think it'd be lots of fun! And when one dies, another one spawns...it'd be endless! ;)

Thawmus
04/20/2007, 17:45
I've been trying to ask one of the judges at our local shop to do the same thing...although he doesn't have any Aliens...I could let him borrow mine though...I think it'd be lots of fun! And when one dies, another one spawns...it'd be endless! ;)

It's good for scenario play, but since they all gain move-and-attack powers, are considerably undercosted (a 60 point figure in Horrorclix has the stats of a 100 point figure in Heroclix), and never take pushing damage, I sure wouldn't want Horrorclix figures in my regular tournament goings.

Tanis11
04/20/2007, 17:57
It's good for scenario play, but since they all gain move-and-attack powers, are considerably undercosted (a 60 point figure in Horrorclix has the stats of a 100 point figure in Heroclix), and never take pushing damage, I sure wouldn't want Horrorclix figures in my regular tournament goings.

You know even though I have all these Horrorclix, I've never played and didn't buy the starter...what are the big differences playwise between the two? Built in willpower? all gain move and attack powers?

JacinB
04/20/2007, 17:59
It's good for scenario play, but since they all gain move-and-attack powers, are considerably undercosted (a 60 point figure in Horrorclix has the stats of a 100 point figure in Heroclix), and never take pushing damage, I sure wouldn't want Horrorclix figures in my regular tournament goings.
They might seem that way, yes.

But, in my scenarios I've run I've found that -- even after giving the Aliens the benefit of Stealth as long as Camouflage is on their dials and the only battlefield condition being 'Deep Shadows' -- they're still somewhat underwhelming against HeroClix.

Likewise with the zombies. Sure, they're frightening to look at (as they should be!), but they're incredibly slow and are easily out-paced by HeroClix.

Remember, when they Frenzy, they can move and attack, but only at 1 damage. So, they're not going to hurt you all that bad if they do hit, and you can essentially ignore that benefit they get altogether if you've got Toughness or better.

da-Craig-O
04/20/2007, 18:18
They might seem that way, yes.

But, in my scenarios I've run I've found that -- even after giving the Aliens the benefit of Stealth as long as Camouflage is on their dials and the only battlefield condition being 'Deep Shadows' -- they're still somewhat underwhelming against HeroClix.

Likewise with the zombies. Sure, they're frightening to look at (as they should be!), but they're incredibly slow and are easily out-paced by HeroClix.

Remember, when they Frenzy, they can move and attack, but only at 1 damage. So, they're not going to hurt you all that bad if they do hit, and you can essentially ignore that benefit they get altogether if you've got Toughness or better.

Eh, too true laddie. However, don' be forgettin' about all me leprecaun friends and our Frenzy with blades. We'll stomp a mudhole in ye.

JacinB
04/20/2007, 20:41
Ah, a Leprechaun. Let me see if I can say this in words you'll understand: That's why none of me scenarios feature ya wee li'l midget-y folk in the silly green outfits ...

;)

WakandaMan
04/20/2007, 21:57
So what figures do you hope to see in Justice League?

Mine, EDIT: Guy Gardner, re-make Black Canary, Flash (Barry), re-make Blue Beetle (Ted)

New figures:
- Zauriel
- Connor Hawke

Remakes:
- Plastic Man
- Blue Beetle (Ted)
- Doomsday

Isn't the set supposed to have one of every character who has ever been a JLA member in it? I would have thought that would be close to 60 characters, not leaving much room for villians are characters with different TAs (although not all of them would necessarily get the JLA TA).

GreatArelius1
04/20/2007, 23:39
There link floating around Wakanda that show the box art. Connor is on it. I dont remember the others.

CaptainNifty
04/21/2007, 10:14
I'll throw out a few names for figures that would be great to see. Only the first 2 have any chance at all of making it in JL but 3 might make it in Titans

1) Bloodwynd
2) Hitman
3) Tempest
4) Guardian (original)
5) The Metal Men

tenketsu
04/21/2007, 11:57
1) Young Justice Robin
2) Secret
3) Lil' Lobo
4) Empress
5) Arrowette
6) Remade Nightwing (maybe as Renegade)
7) Android Hourman
8) Remade Dr. Fate (I don't care who's wearing the helmet, as long as they have better than a 6 range, sheesh)
9) Captain Marvel Junior
10) Remade Black Adam
11) Remade Batgirl (Cassie)
12) Kid Devil
13) The rest of the Secret Six and Shadowpact
14) Remade Starman (Jack Knight)

Originally this list was in order, but then it just became who came to mind first.

EDIT: Oh, definitely a Jim Harper Guardian as well. And Heatwave. Oh, and Match and Inertia while we're at it.

evilevil
04/21/2007, 12:25
The New Avengers Got
POUNCE!

I can't wait for the trades to get put up!
I am going to love my Echo Sub.

zakiszak
04/21/2007, 15:14
60's Avengers are coming at you with a vaulting giant Hulk.

Jackofhearts2005
04/21/2007, 16:49
Looks like most of the team feats are in.

2 days til trade announcements!

CaptainNifty
04/21/2007, 18:03
Is there some place where we can gaze upon everyones newly acquired team feats.

Stepper79
04/21/2007, 20:20
Is there some place where we can gaze upon everyones newly acquired team feats.


once the trades are done Turtle will post the full teams on the front of this thread or on the 1st page of a thread for season 3

da-Craig-O
04/22/2007, 17:57
What a long post drought. Weird.

I got my Xbox back on Friday...that was cool...

*tumbleweed*

coyotejack
04/22/2007, 19:23
What a long post drought. Weird.

I got my Xbox back on Friday...that was cool...

*tumbleweed*

heh heh...yeah, it gets real quiet most weekends. Glad you got your Xbox! Was it being repaired?

da-Craig-O
04/22/2007, 19:27
heh heh...yeah, it gets real quiet most weekends. Glad you got your Xbox! Was it being repaired?

Quiet is one thing. Going almost 24 hours without a post is just strange. :)

This was my second 360 that I had to send back after the dreaded red light of doom. They send you someone else's refurbished one to save time, so I have no idea who has my original 360. Just glad to have one back so I can play some GH II. Too fun.

SomaCruz42
04/22/2007, 21:41
Quiet is one thing. Going almost 24 hours without a post is just strange. :)

This was my second 360 that I had to send back after the dreaded red light of doom. They send you someone else's refurbished one to save time, so I have no idea who has my original 360. Just glad to have one back so I can play some GH II. Too fun.
DONT DOWNLOAD THE PATCH!

Stepper79
04/22/2007, 21:58
I am waiting for my refirb unit maybe I'll get yours Da-Craig-O

GreatArelius1
04/22/2007, 22:06
well I have been lucky with my 360, no red lights yet. *knocks on wood*

Jackofhearts2005
04/22/2007, 23:25
Wooooo.

Slow weekend on this thread eh?

Iceman425
04/22/2007, 23:57
I love that Connor is coming out. If I had a shot I'd go for the Morrison "JLA" next season. Connor, Kyle, Wally....they are my GA, GL, and Flash since that is when I started reading DC.

zakiszak
04/23/2007, 00:22
A morrison JLA would be great if you had a high team pick slot. I really love those guys, that's the book that turned DC around for me after a very low period of several years. The book gave DC a center to revolve around, and reminded a lot of people that these characters are amazing, not just relics of a naive age.

Looking forward to some league announcements tomorrow. I had a great season 2, so here's to season 3 being even better. See you all on the grid.

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 00:26
I love that Connor is coming out. If I had a shot I'd go for the Morrison "JLA" next season. Connor, Kyle, Wally....they are my GA, GL, and Flash since that is when I started reading DC.
Oddly enough, Ollie and Hal are my GA and GL because I started reading DC after you when Ollie came back. :p

But yeah, I'm missing Wally. :disappoin

zakiszak
04/23/2007, 00:33
So, just read the new Birds of Prey. Ha.

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 00:35
:disappoin
So, just read the new Birds of Prey. Ha.
:grin:

Melkhor
04/23/2007, 03:31
I think I've actually managed to convince myself that I want to try and run a "Mole Man and his Minions" team for next season, just for the sheer insanity of it :)

Mole Man, a horde of Moloids, Tanaraq (as a sub for Giganto), Chemo (subbing in for Tricephalous), maybe Ulik (as Megataur) and Brood Queen as Skreeal!

SomaCruz42
04/23/2007, 03:46
I think I've actually managed to convince myself that I want to try and run a "Mole Man and his Minions" team for next season, just for the sheer insanity of it :)

Mole Man, a horde of Moloids, Tanaraq (as a sub for Giganto), Chemo (subbing in for Tricephalous), maybe Ulik (as Megataur) and Brood Queen as Skreeal!
As potentially playing the Brotherhood of Evil, you'll have to pry Chemo from my cold, dead hands.

XD

CaptainNifty
04/23/2007, 08:31
Easy there killas. I guess you have to make the best trade offer to see who gets chemo. This is a capitalist thread, so I'm sure the nice DC person who drafts Chemo will accept a fair trade.

tenketsu
04/23/2007, 09:05
Easy there killas. I guess you have to make the best trade offer to see who gets chemo. This is a capitalist thread, so I'm sure the nice DC person who drafts Chemo will accept a fair trade.

I think Monsieur Mallah would kill you for that presumption.

Peers
04/23/2007, 10:17
You can't use Brood Queen; she's going to be my sub for Miek in my "Hulk's Warbound" team! :)

JacinB
04/23/2007, 10:46
Alright, so ...

I'm in kind of an unfamiliar place going into the pre-season here. Do I play the figures that I've got that I know I'm going to want to upgrade and gather stats for them, or do I stick to the theme and play the teams that I've got built for the season.

For example, Supergirl ... sure, I could leave her where she's at. Or, I could go and see if I can't get her enough stats to upgrade to the Vet. by mid-season and have that scary, scary monster out there that people won't know if I might field any given game. And, she'd be a behemoth come play-off time.

Or, since I know she'll be on the bench for 80% of my team builds due to point restrictions, do I just let her sit?

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 10:50
Alright, so ...

I'm in kind of an unfamiliar place going into the pre-season here. Do I play the figures that I've got that I know I'm going to want to upgrade and gather stats for them, or do I stick to the theme and play the teams that I've got built for the season.

For example, Supergirl ... sure, I could leave her where she's at. Or, I could go and see if I can't get her enough stats to upgrade to the Vet. by mid-season and have that scary, scary monster out there that people won't know if I might field any given game. And, she'd be a behemoth come play-off time.

Or, since I know she'll be on the bench for 80% of my team builds due to point restrictions, do I just let her sit?

What I do, is I kinda let it flow. Normally, during the season, I'm looking at my opponent's roster, trying to figure out what they're going to bring, and build a team to counter it. During Pre-season, I just focus on two things: Having Fun, and getting stats.

I could care less if I win or not.

Peers
04/23/2007, 10:51
The key is to look at your schedule and try to upgrade her as close to the point-cap-raising as you can. That's part of the fun of a fantasy league... working on timing.

Whereas my choice comes down to "Do I want to spam my grunts into games to try and get them stats, knowing I'll probably be giving more stats to my opponents than I get and unbalancing the league, or do I try to play 'normal Heroclix' style and only use grunts for filler?

Tanis11
04/23/2007, 10:51
Alright, so ...

I'm in kind of an unfamiliar place going into the pre-season here. Do I play the figures that I've got that I know I'm going to want to upgrade and gather stats for them, or do I stick to the theme and play the teams that I've got built for the season.

For example, Supergirl ... sure, I could leave her where she's at. Or, I could go and see if I can't get her enough stats to upgrade to the Vet. by mid-season and have that scary, scary monster out there that people won't know if I might field any given game. And, she'd be a behemoth come play-off time.

Or, since I know she'll be on the bench for 80% of my team builds due to point restrictions, do I just let her sit?

Depends if you really want to upgrade her or not...if you do and if you're just going to bench her for 80% of the time, the preseason's the time to get her some stats. If you don't care to upgrade her, then have her sit and play someone else to get their stats up.

Me, I'm playing pretty much all the new people I got to get them stats to upgrade them. So yeah, my squad's pretty much gonna be a hodge podge of people with no rhyme or reason to them

Melkhor
04/23/2007, 10:51
You can't use Brood Queen; she's going to be my sub for Miek in my "Hulk's Warbound" team! :)

Miek should be happy to be represented by a Saurian Trooper, go find an Indy team to get you one, and leave my Skreeal alone! :p

MSU
04/23/2007, 10:53
I say in the pre-season get the peeps you want to upgrade into the fray. It is not about winning...it about getting those precious precious SAs and KOs and DFDs. Keep your options open just in case. You know you might have that game where 4 of your team members get injured and you need that 300+ point Kara out there.

That is going to be my strategy...Catman and my secret person that I traded for need to both be upgraded to their next level for what I want to work so they are gonna be seeing some playoff time. Then I will have the options for what I want to do this season.

Tanis11
04/23/2007, 10:53
The key is to look at your schedule and try to upgrade her as close to the point-cap-raising as you can. That's part of the fun of a fantasy league... working on timing.

Whereas my choice comes down to "Do I want to spam my grunts into games to try and get them stats, knowing I'll probably be giving more stats to my opponents than I get and unbalancing the league, or do I try to play 'normal Heroclix' style and only use grunts for filler?

Give more stats to opponents! Give more stats to opponents! Especially if you play me!!! ;)

MSU
04/23/2007, 10:56
Give more stats to opponents! Give more stats to opponents! Especially if you play me!!! ;)

I say play what is fun...and since you are DC, help us out so we can take the Superbowl this year.

Thats right...while I want to win, I want the BEST DC team out there to kick the carp out of Marvel. It could be me, it could be JacinB, it could be Tanis, it could be Tenk, it could be Team Hip-Replacement...who knows?

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 10:57
Whereas my choice comes down to "Do I want to spam my grunts into games to try and get them stats, knowing I'll probably be giving more stats to my opponents than I get and unbalancing the league, or do I try to play 'normal Heroclix' style and only use grunts for filler?

I'll give you a deal. I'll throw in my grunts if you throw in your grunts. Then we can sit there and watch them miss each other all day. :laugh:

JacinB
04/23/2007, 11:08
I'll let anyone's grunts fight my 'In Need of Upgrade' squad. Thawmus ... your Criminals need a workout? :grin:

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 11:12
I'll let anyone's grunts fight my 'In Need of Upgrade' squad. Thawmus ... your Criminals need a workout? :grin:

Why yes they do! :laugh:


And so does Man-bat.......:ermm:

JacinB
04/23/2007, 11:21
Here's what would be ideal: Everyone who fights me in the preseason field a squad of 5-10 characters that can't do more than 2 damage, and takes at least two hits of 4 damage to KO.

Anyone interested? :)

zakiszak
04/23/2007, 11:44
I say play what is fun...and since you are DC, help us out so we can take the Superbowl this year.

Thats right...while I want to win, I want the BEST DC team out there to kick the carp out of Marvel. It could be me, it could be JacinB, it could be Tanis, it could be Tenk, it could be Team Hip-Replacement...who knows?

Ya hear that Marvel? The enemy is forming, and has their sights on our lovely trophy! Will we give it to them? No!

Peers
04/23/2007, 11:50
Ya hear that Marvel? The enemy is forming, and has their sights on our lovely trophy! Will we give it to them? No!

You may not give it to us, but we shall still take it!

JacinB
04/23/2007, 12:05
Ya hear that Marvel? The enemy is forming, and has their sights on our lovely trophy! Will we give it to them? No!
Technically, I think the trophy is ours, and we're just loaning it to you for now. We expect it back by the end of the season.

Stepper79
04/23/2007, 12:09
Ya hear that Marvel? The enemy is forming, and has their sights on our lovely trophy! Will we give it to them? No!


I seem to remember it displayedin the JSA brownstone before it was "Loaned" out to you marvel guys. Here is hoping that Joey Q doesn't get hid grubby hands on it

MSU
04/23/2007, 12:20
Ya hear that Marvel? The enemy is forming, and has their sights on our lovely trophy! Will we give it to them? No!

I just thought of something...what if one of the INdy teams wins? Does that mean it's a three-way tie for the first leg of the Fantasy League?

zakiszak
04/23/2007, 12:50
That would indeed make it a 3-way tie. Although technically I guess the indy teams belong to whatever division they play against for the season.

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 13:03
Are both indy teams in dc again this year?

SomaCruz42
04/23/2007, 13:07
Have we seen Turtle around today?

And on an unrelated note, I'm going to win this season. So nyah.

Tanis11
04/23/2007, 13:09
Yeah I wonder if he's still in Seattle....

evilevil
04/23/2007, 13:09
So what's left before the Games start? are we just waiting for trades?

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 13:12
Trades, maybe Turtle assigning team feats to anyone who didn't pick one, then schedule.

Peers
04/23/2007, 13:13
So... am I the only one thinking we're -way- overdue for a 'season 3' thread? Even if we have one for chat and one for 'official' stuff?

JacinB
04/23/2007, 13:15
I was starting to think that, but Turtle's got to be the one to start it (obviously).

CurBludgeon
04/23/2007, 13:15
Nope, I've been thinking we should have had it once the draft got underway.

SomaCruz42
04/23/2007, 13:18
I dunno. Maybe he's of the mindset that this must continue to grow, so that no other thread may encroach upon it?

JacinB
04/23/2007, 13:23
But, there are dozens of other threads around the Realms that've been far larger than this one. Any of the Ninja threads, for example.

SomaCruz42
04/23/2007, 13:24
Hm.

I dont hang around Another often enough, so those flew completely over my head.

*goes back to thinking for a reason*

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 13:25
But, there are dozens of other threads around the Realms that've been far larger than this one. Any of the Ninja threads, for example.

DarkCrisis' "Ladies, I have good news!" thread is probably still one of the top 3 largest threads on HCR.

That thread just exploded into comedy, racism, religion, politics, homosexuality, Carlos, superficiality, HCR sagas, and sex all at once, and it seemed as though it would never end.....until it did.....:cry:

JacinB
04/23/2007, 13:26
Personally, I think it's 'cause he's just a huge freakin' slacker* ... :noid: :rolleyes:



* - No, not really. Thanks for the great job you do 'round here, Turtle.

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 13:27
we made it to 1000 pages...

JacinB
04/23/2007, 13:29
DarkCrisis' "Ladies, I have good news!" thread is probably still one of the top 3 largest threads on HCR.

That thread just exploded into comedy, racism, religion, politics, homosexuality, Carlos, superficiality, HCR sagas, and sex all at once, and it seemed as though it would never end.....until it did.....:cry:
The level of entertainment in that single thread will be hard for anything on the 'Realms to ever match.

JacinB
04/23/2007, 13:30
we made it to 1000 pages...
On your settings. On mine, we're only at page 417.

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 13:34
The level of entertainment in that single thread will be hard for anything on the 'Realms to ever match.

I'm trying to remember if it got closed due to Lealu-gate, or if it just died a slow death. I'm horribly tempted to utilize some Threadomancy.

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 13:36
I'm trying to remember if it got closed due to Lealu-gate, or if it just died a slow death. I'm horribly tempted to utilize some Threadomancy.
Do it. I wasn't around for that one so I'm sure I'll be entertained.

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 13:41
Do it. I wasn't around for that one so I'm sure I'll be entertained.

Jacin beat me to the punch, it's up in Another Realm. Gaze upon and witness the most entertainment you will ever have on HCRealms.

I'm friggin' serious. :classic:

JacinB
04/23/2007, 13:47
Beaten to the punch by a matter of seconds.

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 14:01
Is Lealu the one thats really a guy?

Cause all of this would take on new meaning if that was true.

TMNT99
04/23/2007, 14:03
Have we seen Turtle around today?


No I haven't

evilevil
04/23/2007, 14:06
Who ever mentioned Urban Dead on this Thread, I thank them from the bottom of my heart. I am totally hooked. I just got Free Running (died twice trying to get EXP) but now a whole new area of the game has opened up. So much Fun.

CurBludgeon
04/23/2007, 14:06
No I haven't

In all fairness, there are days I don't check the mirror, either.

da-Craig-O
04/23/2007, 14:06
Is Lealu the one thats really a guy?

Cause all of this would take on new meaning if that was true.

Uhmmm....probably shouldn't say that anywhere else... ;)

Sandra Wu-San was the man. Mandra I believe he/she was called.

TMNT99
04/23/2007, 14:08
Sorry, yesterday I went to the church I grew up in, tried to smooze my way into a new pastoring job up here, and so today I'm typing a resume, as I post the trades.

da-Craig-O
04/23/2007, 14:09
I just thought of something...what if one of the INdy teams wins? Does that mean it's a three-way tie for the first leg of the Fantasy League?

Yeah, when the Judges win, it's a three way tie. Sure, we'll be in the DC division (I assume) but the trophy will still be all about the Indy glory.

Oh, and evilevil, it was MSU that brought up Urban Dead. It was mentioned because he got in trouble at work for being on there. Now we are ALL risking our job security to kill zeds. Gotta love it!

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 14:11
Uhmmm....probably shouldn't say that anywhere else... ;)

Sandra Wu-San was the man. Mandra I believe he/she was called.
Oh yeah. :p
What happened to Lealu?

CurBludgeon
04/23/2007, 14:19
Sorry, yesterday I went to the church I grew up in, tried to smooze my way into a new pastoring job up here, and so today I'm typing a resume, as I post the trades.

Good luck with the job-hunting! It's a stressful thing, so I hope you find something you're happy with.

And I'm assuming "smoozing" doesn't involve "smooching"? :cheeky:

TMNT99
04/23/2007, 14:22
Good luck with the job-hunting! It's a stressful thing, so I hope you find something you're happy with.

And I'm assuming "smoozing" doesn't involve "smooching"? :cheeky:

Considering I'm searching for pastoring postion, then yes, no smooching.

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 14:24
Oh yeah. :p
What happened to Lealu?

I'm going to try to be very brief in my response to this question, and I will mention no other name than Lealu's:

Some people thought that Lealu was actually a guy, and possibly a post-op transvestite on top of this.

While this was being investigated, someone let loose this information, and a pitchfork and torch parade ensued. Lealu immediately made a short rant saying that she was in fact a woman, and that she was done with HCR. I believe that was her last post on HCR.

I'm pretty sure she wasn't banned, and is still not banned, in hopes she ever decides to come back. (a short look at her membership confirms this) But she'd probably have a bit of explaining to do, which judging from her last post, wouldn't happen, so I'm pretty sure she's gone for good.

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 14:25
Sorry, yesterday I went to the church I grew up in, tried to smooze my way into a new pastoring job up here, and so today I'm typing a resume, as I post the trades.

Does your denomination not use the Call system?

I know a lot of denominations hate the system, but if it's done right, it can be very beneficial....

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 14:31
I'm going to try to be very brief in my response to this question, and I will mention no other name than Lealu's:

Some people thought that Lealu was actually a guy, and possibly a post-op transvestite on top of this.

While this was being investigated, someone let loose this information, and a pitchfork and torch parade ensued. Lealu immediately made a short rant saying that she was in fact a woman, and that she was done with HCR. I believe that was her last post on HCR.

I'm pretty sure she wasn't banned, and is still not banned, in hopes she ever decides to come back. (a short look at her membership confirms this) But she'd probably have a bit of explaining to do, which judging from her last post, wouldn't happen, so I'm pretty sure she's gone for good.
Explaining?

In the words of Carlos:
Why would she have to explan for being a woman?

EDIT: Actually, you know what? Its probably not any of my business.

TMNT99
04/23/2007, 14:33
Does your denomination not use the Call system?

I know a lot of denominations hate the system, but if it's done right, it can be very beneficial....

I assume not, as I have no idea what it is. It's all relational style, who you know, or you can just apply blindly to open posted positions.

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 14:34
Explaining?

In the words of Carlos:
Why would she have to explan for being a woman?

It was never 100% verified one way or the other. And since she signed a contract with HCR when she became a mod, she would have to give such verification.

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 14:35
It was never 100% verified one way or the other. And since she signed a contract with HCR when she became a mod, she would have to give such verification.
Ah. Okay, that makes sense.

JacinB
04/23/2007, 14:37
I'm going to try to be very brief in my response to this question, and I will mention no other name than Lealu's:

Some people thought that Lealu was actually a guy, and possibly a post-op transvestite on top of this.

While this was being investigated, someone let loose this information, and a pitchfork and torch parade ensued. Lealu immediately made a short rant saying that she was in fact a woman, and that she was done with HCR. I believe that was her last post on HCR.

I'm pretty sure she wasn't banned, and is still not banned, in hopes she ever decides to come back. (a short look at her membership confirms this) But she'd probably have a bit of explaining to do, which judging from her last post, wouldn't happen, so I'm pretty sure she's gone for good.
Thawmus is correct.

I'll also add that one member of the 'Realms (whose name shall not be mentioned) also sent around, to anyone and everyone he could, all of the 'evidence' he'd gathered that LeaLu was not actually who she claimed to be, including a very real photo of a topless woman with excessibly large breasts that he claimed bore evidence of PhotoShopping which, near as I could tell (and I work in PhotoShop A LOT), it didn't.

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 14:41
I assume not, as I have no idea what it is. It's all relational style, who you know, or you can just apply blindly to open posted positions.

That stinks. :(


Okay, brief explanation:

Basically, when you are a church worker in the LCMS (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod), you can get a "Call" from any church or lutheran school at any time. Usually, you first get a phone call, just a formal greeting. Then you receive a big certificate in the mail called a "Call document". This has all sorts of details for the church or school that is calling you to serve. 9 times out of 10, they also will foot the bill for a flight to their location (which could be anywhere. My dad has gotten calls from Fort Smith Arkansas, New York City, and Hong Kong), so that you can take a look around, greet existing staff, etc.


And then after that, you basically decide whether you want the job or not. If so, you work out the details with them. If not, they go down to the next person on their list. Basically, the Synod shoots them a list of what they think are the best candidates, and then they modify the list themselves to decide who they want to send a call to first.


The way it usually works, if you were in the Call system, you would probably get calls from urban churches that need like 5 pastors, or churches that were started up 5-10 years ago, and need a fresh young face to keep them going. At least, that's my impression.

It used to work HORRIBLY, but now it works very well, and a lot of teachers and pastors stick around longer now. I'm sure I don't have to tell you how hard it is for a budding church worker to constantly move due to disappointment.

Peers
04/23/2007, 14:50
Ah, Internet Drama. So much like high school.

feluwelt
04/23/2007, 14:52
That must have been a pretty emtional experience it almost brings tears to my eyes when I visit my old grammer school catedral. I wish you the best of luck in your new career ventures. Judging from your posts and all the somunication I have had with you. You are a warm hearted person who is deeply involved in the church, the comunity and religon. They could not find a better pastor then you turtle. If I was anywhere near you, it would be an honor to bring my wife and I to your sermon, after you get the position.

On preseason i awlays find its the best strategy to go with as swarmy of a swarm team that you can muster, also throw your (not so much want to get stats for) characters at teh enemy to tie them up and take shots with your little guys some of them are bound to hit. Remember the only advantage the winner gets over the loser is extra Kos, if that much. Overall the preseason losers will receive more RPs. So try to lose but make it as close as possible, esspecally if your a marvel team, with teh avengers set coming out and all those new white powers to play with.


3rd note

I origonally drafted herculeas with the impression that he would be traded, unfortunatly the legistics of teh trade did not work for both parties and it fell through, now while I do not mind having him on my team, I ended my draft early and didnt get enough fliers, I was hopping to get stardust, ill ahve to wait till mid season now to get stardust. So if anyone is interested in herculeas for a low cost flying Good aliened figure let me know. Remember there is a great chance well see a new herc in teh avngers set.

Tanis11
04/23/2007, 14:58
Yeah I read up on the whole Lealu gate thing cuz I wanted to find out why she left...it was kinda sad that a person would want to do that to someone else just cuz of something that happened in their personal life. Why take it out on someone else? Kinda sucks...but what can you do?

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 15:49
including a very real photo of a topless woman with excessibly large breasts that he claimed bore evidence of PhotoShopping which, near as I could tell (and I work in PhotoShop A LOT), it didn't.
I'd like to look at that photo for *ehem* verification reasons.

kontrol
04/23/2007, 16:17
I'd like to look at that photo for *ehem* verification reasons.
Not many hetero males who wouldn't.

Though I'm also curious as to how people can recognize faked photoshopped images versus not. Is there an algorithm you put the digital pixels through or do you do it all by eye? And if it is by eye, what are the things you look for?

SomaCruz42
04/23/2007, 16:24
Not many hetero males who wouldn't.

Though I'm also curious as to how people can recognize faked photoshopped images versus not. Is there an algorithm you put the digital pixels through or do you do it all by eye? And if it is by eye, what are the things you look for?
It's by eye.

Just little things here and there. Funny shadows, color tones that just quite dont match up, general shoop-da-whooping.

JacinB
04/23/2007, 16:25
Not many hetero males who wouldn't.

Though I'm also curious as to how people can recognize faked photoshopped images versus not. Is there an algorithm you put the digital pixels through or do you do it all by eye? And if it is by eye, what are the things you look for?
You can do it by eye, some.

But there are a number of different filters that you can run a picture through and, generally, if it has been altered, the person doing the alterations misses some of the things that'll show up on those filters.

IF LeaLu wasn't real and the photos were faked, (s)he made sure to clean it up really well, and none of the filters revealed any work had been done to it.

Of course, that also doesn't eliminate the possibility that the photo itself was of a real person, and just not of the person who was claiming it was their own.

kontrol
04/23/2007, 16:31
So, for example, would airbrushed photos show up as fake going through the filters or by eye? Or does it normally have to be something a bit more exaggerated...such as fake breasts.

Peers
04/23/2007, 16:40
And Now, Peers Looks At The DC Teams, Pre-Trades.

The Society
Zoom, feated up and ready to go, Sinestro as transport, and a veritable swarm of rookies waiting to upgrade... this team scares me.

Green Lantern Corp
Apparently the ring is no longer a requirement to join... but with Abin Sur, Tomar Re, and Ch'p, they've got enough ring-wielders. Wonder Woman provides brickaliciousness, but the main problem with this team is a lack of balance; The odds of those who need stats getting them is relatively low.

Fatal Five
Emerald Empress with nova blast and protected. Ow. They're also able to wildcard Superman Enemy or Batman Enemy, so they're going to be especially vicious. If you can keep them from being adjacent to each other, that might make things a bit easier. Might.

Injustice League
Lots of variety, with Despero providing a tentpole and lots and lots of stat-hungry Rookies ready to swarm. This could be a sleeper team.

Secret Six
I guess it's true... they can't count so good. But any team with Karademon is going to be hard to face, and there's lots of chances for upgrades here this season.

Armies of Apokolips
I have no idea what the Ghost is doing there, but this team will be ugly when we hit 400 points. The only comfort I can take is that this is the Rookie Darkseid... for now.

JSA (Golden Age)
Some Origin goodness here, but I think this team won't be nearly as ugly as it could be... say, if this were after a reboot. There's a lot of figures in need of upgrades here, and if they were to continue on after this season, they'd be a serious threat.

Superman Allies
In the 300-point games, this team is going to be pinched... Bones is going to see a lot of play. But when they hit 400 points, as there's lots of different combinations they can throw at you as their four biggest figures are 100, 100, 105, and 112 points.

CSA
Ug. Who let Amazo on this team? To be honest, I don't want to face this team. Partially due to their figures, and partially due to the lag-time in deciding if things would be re-rolled and who will get the token if they do...

Doom Patrol
I like this team. It's decepticely simple. If Robotman can get some good stats in the pre-season, it could be the other big sleeper in the division.

The Greatest Generation
My biggest problem will be mobility. I have one flier. Granted, one who can drop eight paratroopers into battle, but still. It's going to be a slow plod against more mobile enemies.

Superman Enemies
Once Mister Mind gets enough stats for Compel, it's gonna be hard to face this one. Plenty of cheap Outwit makes it even uglier.

JLA (Satelite Era)
Parallax shouldn't be joked about -- he's gotten the stats to upgrade three times. There's a lot of Uniques on this team, meaning upgrades will mostly be kept to feats... but that may be all they need.

JSA (Modern Age)
At first, I thought the Golden Age got the better of this split. But Mister Terrific and Shazam! are both feated up and ready to go. Still, they supper from Unique-ism as well.

JLI
Best. Theme. Team. Evar. An excellent mix of strong and weak characters, upgradable and not, this one's really hard to plan against. Just show up and try to cope with whatever wackiness they throw at you.

Batman Enemies
Having faced them last season... Don't underestimate the annoyance of Man-Bat. The addition of Criminals for Mastermind-fodder makes them even more dangerous, and they've got more nasty tricks where that came from.

Young Justice
Another excellent mix of mobility and firepower, I'm expecting really good things from this team. The addition of The Ray and Wonder Girl will be interesting to watch.

Outsiders
Yeah, okay, this one scares me too. But that's mainly due to their TA and all my AV-enhancing tricks that I need in order to actually, y'know, hit things.

Legion of SuperHeroes
Wildfire is so cheese. But paired with MonEl, plus all the fun TAs they've got trading in... I'm hoping not to face them again this season.

Sentinels of Magic
It's hard to improve on how well they did last season. Raven w/Construct is going to be annoying as hell. But let's not forget that they've been 'knocked down' to Origin Green Lantern instead of KCGL; how well they cope with that is going to make all the difference.

Stepper79
04/23/2007, 16:47
And Now, Peers Looks At The DC Teams, Pre-Trades.


JSA (Modern Age)
At first, I thought the Golden Age got the better of this split. But Mister Terrific and Shazam! are both feated up and ready to go. Still, they supper from Unique-ism as well.



Man I know I have a few Uniques (5) but I don't EAT Them.

plus you forget that I pick up the Shazam REV as well giving me more options at a lower point value

JacinB
04/23/2007, 16:52
So, for example, would airbrushed photos show up as fake going through the filters or by eye? Or does it normally have to be something a bit more exaggerated...such as fake breasts.
Nah, you can catch most everything using something as simple as the edge detection filter that's built into the software.

And, PhotoShop CS3 is going to be releasing (soon), and it is supposed to be packed with even more tools like it that'll be able to detect photo fraud, like telling you if someone used the 'clone' tool to duplicate areas of the picture by running an algorithm over the pixels and finding areas that are 'improbably similar'.

If you want to see what to look for. Take a look at these photos (http://news.com.com/2300-1026-6033210.html) and see if you'd have been able to tell, just by looking at them, which ones had been changed.

evilevil
04/23/2007, 17:02
I got a question about how to handle trading here. I don't want to send TMNT another PM and overload his box.
my question is
I have 2 trades I am waiting for. there is a third one now that hinges on one of my first two. Should I wait till I get my first 2 then PM TMNT? or should I send him a revised list with all three?

Stepper79
04/23/2007, 17:02
some pretty famous shots their especially my favorite like the thinner katie

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 17:03
I got a question about how to handle trading here. I don't want to send TMNT another PM and overload his box.
my question is
I have 2 trades I am waiting for. there is a third one now that hinges on one of my first two. Should I wait till I get my first 2 then PM TMNT? or should I send him a revised list with all three?

I'd PM him with the third one, that way he isn't waiting for you.

feluwelt
04/23/2007, 17:22
great review and an interesting read, who wants to do a marvel preview, im interested what people think of my double tk abilities, as i am now contomplating using them,

I may play the pre season as an actual warmup, instead of stat driven and try out diferent strategies to see which ones work and which dont work

JacinB
04/23/2007, 17:34
Secret Six
I guess it's true... they can't count so good. But any team with Karademon is going to be hard to face, and there's lots of chances for upgrades here this season.
Dude. :tired:

I'm not sure how many times I've got to explain this (and, since this'll be the first attempt, you can start counting now): Thawmus stole one of my key team members. My team simply cannot function as a core unit without her. So, I had to draft Kara, the Checkmate crew, and Batman to compensate for the loss.

Thawmus
04/23/2007, 17:48
Dude. :tired:

I'm not sure how many times I've got to explain this (and, since this'll be the first attempt, you can start counting now): Thawmus stole one of my key team members. My team simply cannot function as a core unit without her. So, I had to draft Kara, the Checkmate crew, and Batman to compensate for the loss.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JacinB again. :laugh:

Peers
04/23/2007, 17:50
Hey, for the record, I (Heart) Karademon.

Jackofhearts2005
04/23/2007, 18:10
Hey, for the record, I (Heart) Karademon.
This is where I would say something about how much Bizarro heart's Karademon....if I had drafted him.

zakiszak
04/23/2007, 18:40
great review and an interesting read, who wants to do a marvel preview, im interested what people think of my double tk abilities, as i am now contomplating using them,

I may play the pre season as an actual warmup, instead of stat driven and try out diferent strategies to see which ones work and which dont work

I'd like to do some marvel writeups, but not until after trades are made.

MSU
04/23/2007, 19:19
Hey Cur, you gonna do some DC match write ups like last season?

mbauers
04/23/2007, 19:36
Phew! Finally updated my journal. Looking at the new figs on my team, im kinda pumped for the preseason, but I have no clue what team I'll be using in the first round.

CurBludgeon
04/23/2007, 19:59
Hey Cur, you gonna do some DC match write ups like last season?

Dunno. I realized after the Super Bowl that the last two guys to do the writeups were Super Bowl runner ups. So I'm not sure I want to risk courting a jinx. :laugh:

tenketsu
04/23/2007, 20:24
Dunno. I realized after the Super Bowl that the last two guys to do the writeups were Super Bowl runner ups. So I'm not sure I want to risk courting a jinx. :laugh:

Hell, maybe I ought to do them then--I'd settle for being DC Champ :p

MSU
04/23/2007, 20:34
Hell, maybe I ought to do them then--I'd settle for being DC Champ :p

And this is why you aren't going to be doing it...we need winners! The trophy must come back to DC!

TMNT99
04/23/2007, 20:51
Please join us in Season 3! (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2684718#post2684718)