Philippines (PH) TACTICS: cheese/counter cheese [Archive] - Page 4

weaponizedsoul

04/17/2008, 11:29

Ndi ko maxado nagustohan mga special powers dati. When they first released the mechanic, akala ko tlga SPECIAL yung mga special powers. Tapos sinong binigyan nila ng SP? Piledriver?? :laugh:

i envisioned SPs dati as built in feats for characters. Like spidey with his own pounce/full move charge with leap/climb or wolverine with built-in autoregen. Mga ganun. Ndi yung tipong tatambakan lng ng powers yung isang slot. At maslalong hindi yung kahit sino binibigyan ng SP.

Pero astig yung mga special powers sa crisis. Cguro kelangan lng nila ng extra time para pag-isipan tlga kung pano gamitin yung mechanic. GL's definitely deserve different powers in one slot. In my mind, sila yung mga candidate tlga para sa ganun. Astig din yung mga modified outwit na pede tanggalin lahat ng powers. Triggon also has cool SPs.. lalo na si darkseid. Overall, I'm pleased with how special powers panned out. Hopefully ganun na lagi. Duos definitely deserve special powers and multipower slots. Mejo nabad trip ako na walang SP si batman and robin tska starfire and nightwing.

i think it's also fair na ndi pede gamitin sa feats yung special powers mainly because it's already like having a feat in itself.

clixboy

04/17/2008, 13:01

Ye, mas maganda ang dating tlga ng special powers ngyon. imbes na iimbento pa sila ng bagong power eh pinagsama sama nalang nila mga powers on a single slot.. makes it less confusing rather than gagawa ka pa ng bago from scratch.

stevenrogers

04/17/2008, 22:12

Duos definitely deserve special powers and multipower slots. Mejo nabad trip ako na walang SP si batman and robin tska starfire and nightwing.

If you think Batman and Robin was disappointing what about the freakin' Cap and Bucky Duo? Anyone saw this fig being used after Arthur did at Megamall? (And me on freeplays)...I dont think so.
WK should've came up with a better Cap and Buck that couldve levelled up with the Bats and Rob duo.
Another disappointing fact is at 75pts, Batman has a better SP than a 95point Ultimate Cap!!! Or what about SPs of KC Supes as against Green Scars???
Oh well, this is what Marvel has to live by...that sadly will never be corrected as long as this game's alive.:mad:

But enuff of that...Who's team will be better this Wednesday? The KC or E2 Supes? Place your bet people...at 500pts the Supermen will have good support figs enuff to massacre your Dawnstars ;)

weaponizedsoul

04/18/2008, 00:26

marvel sets are definitely the lab rat sets. tapos DC sets ngbbenefit.:cheeky:

sorry cons! totally forgot about the cap and bucky duo which definitely deserved multiple powers or unique SPs. Although not as rampant or as imba as C Batman.. yung C Cap astig nmn in it's own place. tska ultimates pa xa. Love that TA!

in 500 pts i seriously think na E2 supes is way better than KC supes simply because of those defense values. So make sure nyo na tama click ng kalaban nyo.. Baka diretsohin nya sa 20 def click.:eek:

Although in a KC supes vs E2 supes matchup.. if KC gets the first smack with two objects. Patay E2 supes mo sigurado yun if both attacks stick. Yung KC supes kasi tentpole killer tlga. Yung E2 will probably do much better against swarms.

E2 has the TA to bust stealth, longer swing, perma-willpower, bonus attack and will be adequately supported in 500.

wag nyo kalimutan mga iba pang restricted badasses. The other supermen will have their say. Shazam. Thanos. Darkseid. Spectre. Black Adam. Surfer.

500 tlga allows way too many tentpoles to become effective it almost becomes a cop out. Swarm will always be good but they require too much time to maneuver across the board and make enough attacks to win in just 30 mins.(can't count the number of times I was ahead but lost to time because my team wasn't built to win in 30 mins of chasing HSS pieces or mga feeling HSS na figs..)

mobility tlga is the key. The faster you catch up with that cowering superman after you land a few hits, the better your chance of winning in 30 mins. Dapat consider nyo tlga yung oras din wen building teams. Wed teams should either be fast or fast enough to chase. Kung ndi mabibiktima siguro kayo ng hit and run.:grin:

Money is on E2 supes to perform better overall compared to KC supes. Pero pantay lng kung head to head matchup. I'm going out on a limb and predict na ndi mgchachamp si E2 supes or KC supes. I hope someone makes that happen though!:laugh:

darkjacen

04/18/2008, 03:57

You know i've never really thought about Marvel's SPs being worse off. I think i kinda took it for granted. :noid:

I mean in mutations, konti lang talaga may magandang Special power that makes it unique. Look at Emma Frost vs Professor X? Prof X's Cerebro is wicked while Emma, an SR, only has Perplex and Leadership?:angry: :confused: And What's with Avengers Ultimate Cap's white power? Napaka basic naman. Parang hindi pinagisipan...:tired:

But i have to give WK a nod for creating new powers from scratch:) . It's not easy. Try going over the Dreams & Desires Thread for those who think it is. Some characters really deserve unique powers, others a plethora of them should be expected.:noid:

ecchs

04/20/2008, 05:28

clarification re: Warbound (this was brought up yesterday)

From the lastest FAQ:

Q: If I give a Warbound character an action, and he places the action token to another character, can I give the character who got the token a non-free action this turn?

A: Yes. Even though it was assigned a token, the character has not yet been given a non-free action this turn, and can therefore still get one.

Chuck is right, Dawg. *ngiti*

ecchs

04/20/2008, 12:23

based on a query raised last saturday from Geoff and Zavier, i posted this question in the wizkids' forum and got some answers. hope this might help clear the issue/s concerning timing as to sharing replacement values and effects of modifiers when somebody declares an attack....

Situation:

*2 JSA figs adjacent to each other, one with 17 defense, the other 15 def + Combat Reflexes
*opponent declared a close combat attack against the one with CR, perplexing down the 17 defense fig by -1 first before attacking

Q: what's the total DV of the one with CR before the attack roll?
Q: is the "replace then modify" rule in effect here?

Many thanks in advance. :-)

It is replace then modify, but as always RTM applies when things occur simultaneously. The CR happens when the JSA happens. The Perplex happened prior to that, so it is lost when the replacement happens.

To answer your question, before the attack roll, the one with CR has a 16. (15 +1 Perplex) When the Attack roll happens, it become 19. (17 replaces the 16, then +2 CR)

wait, the 17 defense was perplexed down by 1. So should the defense of the one with CR now be 18, 16 shared by teammate + 2 from CR?

JSA and similar team abilities state that you share the unmodified defense/attack values. SO any perplexing that took place before the attack (up or down) does not get shared.

maniladawg

04/21/2008, 09:51

zavier

04/21/2008, 11:25

dawg,
tama pushed ung recipient ng token...

question,
since duo fig si pied piper and trickster, pwede b duo MC?? if ever mejo brutal ung fig, just add nanobots para maoffset ung feedback damage ok na... unless i'm mistaken... calculator TA pa cla... hmmm..

ohhh my!! i likey 300 pa din!!..

darkjacen

04/21/2008, 12:00

question,
since duo fig si pied piper and trickster, pwede b duo MC?? if ever mejo brutal ung fig, just add nanobots para maoffset ung feedback damage ok na... unless i'm mistaken... calculator TA pa cla... hmmm..

Hindi ata. MC needs a power action to give a ranged or close combat action. The duo attack also needs a power action to make a flurry-like attack. I believe it's one or the other lang.:noid:

Kasi kung ganun then dapat pwede din yung Duo attack CCE for big barda and that i'm sure can't be done.:(

clixboy

04/22/2008, 04:03

yep duo attack is a power action and MC is also a power action, one or the other lang :)

maniladawg

09/05/2008, 10:43

any new tactics???

maniladawg

11/29/2008, 18:23

Here's some HEROCLIX strategy that hasn't been DISCUSSed.

NO, this is NOT ingame strategy.
This is ABOUT the DRAFT strategy

How do you pick your PRIZES?

on a typical game the LE prize is RARELY taken by the tourney champion. opting usually for the 1st pick. From there the draft becomes VERY unpredictable

case in point: @ ATC the LE prize two saturdays ago was Infinity Gauntlet ED. the tourney champion took the the first pick (no brainer). then the 2nd placer took the 2nd pick. i expected the LE prize to be taken by the third placer or the very least 4th placer. but to my surprise the ED went all the way through 7 players and was still available at the 2nd round where the CHAMPION took it as first pick of the 2nd round.

value wise the ED is probably worth more than the PICKS from 4th - 8th.

IMHO the LE prize should be taken by the guy with the third pick. it is rare that the LE is worth the FIRST pick. the only LE taken on the first pick was PROTECTED and WARBOUND

but from my experience the LEs are taken at the 4th or 5th pick

haroldsoon

11/29/2008, 22:17

dahil siguro bago ang set.. baka wala pa mashadong figures from the new set ang mga players so they opted to pick from the booster.. :) and infinity gauntlet is an event dial right? minsan mas sulit talga kung figure nalang piliin. haha ako i will usualy go for figures. :)

maniladawg

11/29/2008, 22:49

haroldsoon

11/30/2008, 06:07

dawg,

Nakita ko sa battle reports na gumamit ka ng Heroes for Hire theme and you placed 2nd! How did you play the team? Usually when I play theme teams durog ako sa kalaban. haha

samuraigrifter

11/30/2008, 08:29

dawg,

Nakita ko sa battle reports na gumamit ka ng Heroes for Hire theme and you placed 2nd! How did you play the team? Usually when I play theme teams durog ako sa kalaban. haha

I don't know about actual strategy, but one tip I could suggest is don't listen to ANYONE's comments when they see you're playing a comic-accurate themed team. Especially when the words "fun" and "team" are in the same sentence. Start tuning everybody out and just play the team like you normally would. :) It builds more confidence in the rag tag team of street level heroes that you've put together.

clixboy

11/30/2008, 11:54

hey to be honest winning with a theme team is really very much a challenge and a reward in itself... proves that you have what it takes to take your game to the next level:) even with power pieces there are ways to play pieces thematically and still win against an all star power team.... most people see an E2 supes on the table and go "wth" but really try using E2 supes on a thematic team and there goes a huge difference really..... he becomes less godly and turns out easy to kill? wrong...... learning the curves of a theme team and timing those theme probs is one way of mastering the curves of a game..

spiderknyt

12/01/2008, 22:58

FYI

TK: pwede pa rin yung "tulak" strategy, check the rulebook for TK rules. ignore target when determining line of fire.

Sharpshooter: they can't see through stealth. through other chracters lang. so hindi sya parang trickshot.

Giants: ignores force blast and plasticity and knock back

pwede sila tirahin ng range kahit nasa elevated terrain ka na hindi edge.

yun lang. hehe

pilderaboy

12/02/2008, 00:09

don't listen to ANYONE's comments when they see you're playing a comic-accurate themed team. Especially when the words "fun" and "team" are in the same sentence.

hahaha, exactly.i'd send some rep, pero nabblock dito sa office eh.:squareeye

it's too bad that ATC's too far for some of you guys.you'd fit in perfectly with the players there.:laugh:

javeyx

12/02/2008, 01:14

maniladawg

12/02/2008, 03:05

dawg,

Nakita ko sa battle reports na gumamit ka ng Heroes for Hire theme and you placed 2nd! How did you play the team? Usually when I play theme teams durog ako sa kalaban. haha

Tnx for the compliment. I've always advocated experimentation with armies. heroclix actually provides us with a game that well conceive rogue armies has a chance to win.

now with the heroes for hire army that placed 2nd ... i cant exactly remember how i played during the tourney but i can give you an idea

first ... know your strength. the team is obviously a close combat team. so be aggresive move them quickly but hide them. may L/C sila so hindering shouldnt be a problem. (by the way. if i get to pick a map for this army yung maraming hindering.)

second ... maximize your abilities. si Toro lang ang range ko. so i dont engage him in a shootout. pag naka base na sila iron fist at shang chi tsaka lang sya babaril. kung may damage na si shang chi pwede mo nang itabi si toro para ma share yung defense using DEFENDER TA.

third ... amadeus cho is a SECRET WEAPON (of course di na secret ngayon) there is always room for a TIMELY OUTWIT. most of those i played with typically will ignore this 11 point POG but during CRITICAL SITUATIONS. THat OUTWIT really HELPS

fourth ... appropiate FEAT card helps ... i think i have ALIAS on IF and Shang Chi. it does not always work BUT it's there for a purpose.

fifth ... dont be afraid. ERR on the side of aggression. (NOT ALL OF MY THEME ARMY works BUT WHEN THEY DO ... the BEST, i played Zzzax two weeks ago what did i get ... A CHASE BATMAN)

LAro lang ng laro ng whatever you can imagine

Xtriker47

12/02/2008, 09:52

cgclix

12/09/2008, 04:04

is puting the ff feats : entangle
armor peircing
camoflage
toxic burst
on plasmus and play him indoor maps like asaylum or place a sp object that turns it into blocking terrain

spiderknyt

12/10/2008, 09:49

@javey

tulak means nasa likod yung Tker then sa harap yung target. hehe.

maniladawg

12/20/2008, 18:31

is puting the ff feats : entangle
armor peircing
camoflage
toxic burst
on plasmus and play him indoor maps like asaylum or place a sp object that turns it into blocking terrain

di ko Gets??

BlazingIce

04/07/2009, 06:51

newbie here, just asking some questions about the game we love to play:

Pag nagdoppleganger ba si trigon di pede mg.longrange ung kalaban na nadikitan nun??

kpag gumamit ng titans TA and isang indomitable ndi ba siya mappush??

hindi ba nakikita ng mga ultimates at supes ally c lamppost batman sa elevated terrain??

javeyx

04/07/2009, 13:52

Geof-Force

04/12/2009, 02:05

Hey! Welcome BLazingIce! Lemme try to answer your Qs.

1) I think DPs do prevent your fig from shooting outside of base contact. Nasty, right?
2) I do remember the Endurance feat allowing you to bypass (well, in some ways DELAY) the pushing damage. Not too sure about Titans TA though. If you can post the latest wording, I might be able to give you a more concrete answer.
3) Unfortunately, Bats treats the rim of elevated terrain as hindering terrain for purposes of LOS. Therefore, he still can be targeted by Ult and SA.

Can someone check if I answered it correctly? The other game sure did made me forget a lot of rulings!

You're right, Javey!

To answer BlazingIce's query about Titans TA and a character with the Indomitable Defense ability (though I haven't seen a Titan with it yet) yes, it will prevent the pushing damage for the purpose of having 2 action tokens HOWEVER the damage from the TA effect(unless you roll 5-6) is unavoidable as it is not pushing damage. :cool:

BlazingIce

04/13/2009, 06:30

so binago po yung wording sa Titans TA? salamat po sa mga sagot...

here's some more questions:

1. how about an indomitable w/ pulse wave and uses nova blast??

BlazingIce

04/13/2009, 06:43

does that character take pushing damage from the use from using pulse wave???

2. does black adam's (crisis) SP that grants exploit weakness and flurry work together??

3. when a fig with the Mystics TA has impervious and is attacked but rolls a 5-6, does the attacker take damage from the TA?

darkjacen

04/13/2009, 07:50

1. Nova blast damage cannot be prevented. You can always heal the character afterwards but you can't prevent the damage that is dealt to you. It's just how the feat works.

2. Exploit weakness and flurry do not work together. Both powers require a close combat action to trigger their effects. Exploit uses a close combat action just like flurry uses a close combat action to make 2 close combat attacks. Now if it were a power action that allows you to use a close combat attack then it would work. (i.e. Charge + expolit weakness)

3. For the Mystics TA to work, the character needs to be damaged. If the damage is prevented, the opponent doesn't get 1 unavoidable damage.

BlazingIce

04/14/2009, 00:56

But the damage was done, it was only reduced to zero. Anyway I'm not sure at anything, thanks for the answers though.

Another batch of questions:

1. Does blocking terrain block line of sight from giants?

2. Rip hunter's SP only prevents standard and named powers from being countered. So does that mean that you can counter that SP with outwit?

alstaire

04/14/2009, 01:14

But the damage was done, it was only reduced to zero. Anyway I'm not sure at anything, thanks for the answers though.

Hi BlazingIce... I'll try to answer your queries...

Let's check the 2 Feats

Nova Blast
Prerequisite: Pulse Wave
...
After resolving this action, the character takes 2 pushing damage that ignores Willpower and team abilities; remove this Nova Blast from the game.

I'm not sure what the wording is for Indomitable, but I believe it functions as a full dial of willpower... so it does not stop pushing damage from Nova Blast. :squareeye

1. Does blocking terrain block line of sight from giants?

Yes, It does... although Giants sees targets on Elevated Terrain. :cool:

12. Rip hunter's SP only prevents standard and named powers from being countered. So does that mean that you can counter that SP with outwit?

TIME MASTER: Rip Hunter can use Outwit and Probability Control. The standard and named powers of Rip Hunter and friendly characters adjacent to him can't be countered.

Yes you can counter Rip Hunter's SP... so you need to hide him behind one of his friendly allies... :laugh:

BlazingIce

04/14/2009, 01:36

thanks for all the answers guys.

can you TK someone who's carrying another character?

iron_cowboy

04/14/2009, 03:55

thanks for all the answers guys.

can you TK someone who's carrying another character?

no. i think even a character carrying an object cannot be TKd.

darkjacen

04/14/2009, 05:06

But the damage was done, it was only reduced to zero.

Haha, but look at it again. You still didn't deal any damage to the Mystics character. Just like If you hit Klarion for 3 but he rolled succesfully on his Super Senses, damage still wasn't dealt. I'm pretty sure of this. I've asked this a year back on the rules thread.:grin:

Regarding TK. You cannot TK a character that is carrying another character. You can TK a character that is carrying an object though. (Alvin think Supes or Shazam R, you normally TK a brick with a heavy object remember:laugh:)

For carrying you cannot carry a character that is carrying an object.

iron_cowboy

04/14/2009, 21:03

haha. forgot that one, not use to TK a character carrying an object.:grin:

iron_cowboy

04/14/2009, 21:04

meaning you can TK SI hercules while carrying two objects? ang bigat non!:laugh:

darkjacen

04/15/2009, 07:38

Come to think of it dapat nose-bleed yun. Haha. Maybe they should've updated TK to take that into consideration (Buuuut...if they did make powers with all those factors siguro never na gawa yung clix:laugh:)

BlazingIce

04/15/2009, 09:15

I'm one-third of BlazingIce : :) hahaha

Can you turn off Yellowjacket's giant power?

BlazingIce

04/17/2009, 09:58

uhm..isa ko sa BlazingIce family/trio.hehe,uhm.tnung lng. anu mgnda team sa 300,400,500 n ngfofocus/almost pure members ay sa JSA,Batman enemy. uhm. ung figs po n pnkaok.thanks :) kung pwd po specific team.hehe

darkjacen

04/18/2009, 08:35

I'm one-third of BlazingIce : :) hahaha

Can you turn off Yellowjacket's giant power?

Turn off using outwit? Look at the card, if the power is a star power/Trait the answer is no. Otherwise yes you can outwit the power.

Re team suggestions, it would be better for you to think of a team then post it here. Other players can give you tips once they have a better idea of what exactly you want to do with the point builds.:)

mrqueen

04/18/2009, 09:08

ahm..ako ung s jsa :) naverify n acct ko :)

liberty belle
wildcat E
phantom girl
jinx R
robin R - aa

sakto 300..

liberty belle
wildcat E
phantom girl
jinx R
bats C jl
green arrow C jl
elektra E xplosion

sakto 400..

liberty belle
wildcat E
phantom girl
jinx R
bats C jl
green arrow C jl
vigilante
cosmic boy

494/500 :) la perplex??la p ko xadu figs at feats.. thx!

BlazingIce

04/18/2009, 11:08

I have another question for you guys:

1. Can you carry anarky while he's carrying another fig?

BOOM TUBE: Anarky can use Phasing/Teleport and the Carry Ability.

Since he doesn't have the Flight symbol or the transporter symbol so he can be carried right??? XD

clixboy

04/18/2009, 12:17

uh no, a character can only ever carry one character (unless specifically allowed to by a power or feat), a carrying character cannot be carried...

Xtriker47

04/21/2009, 07:02

mrqueen

04/21/2009, 09:43

free action po b ung carry ng fliers?

spiderknyt

04/21/2009, 11:12

ang pag cacarry po ay part ng move action or power action involving movement, so technically, hindi sya free action. unless meron kang team ability na naggrant ng free action on movement (avengers,brotherhood or jla).

mrqueen

04/21/2009, 18:38

un.d ko pla nsma ung jla or avengers :) tnx!:D

Geof-Force

04/22/2009, 05:22

I'm one-third of BlazingIce : :) hahaha

Can you turn off Yellowjacket's giant power?

If you mean can you willingly turn off the power then yes. It allows you to be a Giant at one point (say, Perplex another character) and then "shrink" down so that you're not exposed against retaliation or pesky powers that target you (as log as you have someone to cover you of course).

BlazingIce

04/24/2009, 06:42

does BCF and Exploit Weakness work together???

BlazingIce

04/24/2009, 07:00

oh and can you use Captain Gordon's SP to call the bat a wildcard who copied the Batman TA?

Xtriker47

04/24/2009, 08:36

oh and can you use Captain Gordon's SP to call the bat a wildcard who copied the Batman TA?

bawal dpt tlgang TA niya bats or gotham keyword

BlazingIce

04/29/2009, 05:10

I have another question:

If a fig w/ stealth and super strength carries an object are lines of fire on that fig treated as if they cross blocking terrain?

Geof-Force

04/29/2009, 05:17

does BCF and Exploit Weakness work together???

yes

If a fig w/ stealth and super strength carries an object are lines of fire on that fig treated as if they cross blocking terrain?

No, you have to have line of sight crossing hindering terrain or actually standing on hindering terrain for stealth to work. :cool:

BlazingIce

05/18/2009, 03:57

can you outwit a friendly character's battle fury so he can make a ranged attack or can be carried??

Xtriker47

05/18/2009, 07:48

can you outwit a friendly character's battle fury so he can make a ranged attack or can be carried??
as far as i know nope haha

rhomuel

05/20/2009, 17:00

question what the difference between flier and transporter???move and attack lang ba???

spiderknyt

05/20/2009, 22:04

fliers versus transportr na fliers, move and attack lang difference

fliers versus grounded transporters, bukod sa move and attack, hindi iniignore ng grounded ang hindering terrain on movement.

stevenrogers

05/20/2009, 22:22

fliers versus transportr na fliers, move and attack lang difference

fliers versus grounded transporters, bukod sa move and attack, hindi iniignore ng grounded ang hindering terrain on movement.

- Well some fliers can also do move and attacks like Dawnstar...but generally unless a power grants those, the Transporters can do move and attack kahit wala pa sa dial nya yung mga powers na HSS, RS or Charge. Note: Some grounded transporters (with Leap Climb) can go thru hindering like the Exp Spidey from Sinister.
- Transporters cannot be carried and so are fliers in todays rules...the double based transporters cannot be TK'd but like the single based ones can use the ability of carrying a fig. Heck, I remember a transporter double based hawkeye carrying 8 figs on his hoverbike using the GL Ta thru a T-bolt feat!!
- The Transpo suffers from the less 2 to move and attack option and they are the only figs allowed to do such as a built in power.

hayate

05/22/2009, 02:45

can anyone here to explain the LAMP combo thanks

stevenrogers

05/22/2009, 04:33

L.A.M.P.
- Lockjaw (L)
- Armor Piercing (A)
- Mastermind (M)
- Poison (P)

Whick spells an Icon's Joker being carried by a Lockjaw fig. One of the deadliest combo ever. Pamatay ng KC Flash, Vet Supes and can even stand up against the dreaded Nova Blast. :cool:
...Its still a dreaded combo up till now pag unrestricted tourneys nga lang.

BlazingIce

06/02/2009, 04:15

Guys, okay ba lagyan ng damage shield at fortitude si trigon? Para 2 damage sa umatake sa kanya at ndi pa maoutwit yung damage reducers niya?

darkjacen

06/02/2009, 08:44

I'm a bit rusty on these matters but diba for Mystics to work the attacking character must damage the said mystics character?

The Mystics damage, based sa example mo ha, cannot be avoided, BUT the damage shield one can. From what i remember, yung mystics will be taken but the feat based damage can be either prevented or transferred via mastermind.

Xtriker47

06/02/2009, 10:08

Xtriker47

06/10/2009, 00:45

BlazingIce

06/14/2009, 05:37

Hey guys, if I use ICWO with an alpha ORACLE on KC Flash. He gains ESD right? so can I give KC Flash the force field feat then?

Xtriker47

06/14/2009, 06:04

if i remember right bawal since ung ESD came from a feat. well i duno hahaha not sure ang keso naman niyan hehe peace! :P

Xtriker47

06/15/2009, 07:44

clarifications for the charge+flurry+lunge+manuever+vault combo:

Quote : Originally Posted by nbperp
1 - Give the character a power action to activate Charge.

* Is an attack resolved? No - so no Maneuver
* Is a close combat action resolved? No - so no Vault
* Is this an action with a close combat attack? No - so no Lunge (it is a power action that contains a free action)

2 - Move the character half of its speed.

* Is an attack resolved? No - so no Maneuver
* Is a close combat action resolved? No - so no Vault
* Is this an action with a close combat attack? No - so no Lunge

3 - Give the character a close combat action as a free action to activate Flurry.

* Is an attack resolved? No - so no Maneuver
* Is a close combat action resolved? No - so no Vault
* Is this an action with a close combat attack? No - so no Lunge (it is a close combat action that contains 2 free actions)

4 - Give the character a free action to make a close combat attack.

* Is an attack resolved? No - so no Maneuver
* Is a close combat action resolved? No - so no Vault
* Is this an action with a close combat attack? Yes - Lunge can be used now.

5 - Make the attack - roll dice, apply damage, etc.

* Is an attack resolved? Yes - Maneuver can be used now
* Is a close combat action resolved? No - so no Vault
* Is this an action with a close combat attack? No - so no Lunge

6 - Give the character a free action to make a second close combat attack.

* Is an attack resolved? No - so no Maneuver
* Is a close combat action resolved? No - so no Vault
* Is this an action with a close combat attack? Yes - Lunge can be used now.

7 - Make the attack - roll dice, apply damage, etc.

* Is an attack resolved? Yes - Maneuver can be used now
* Is a close combat action resolved? No - so no Vault
* Is this an action with a close combat attack? No - so no Lunge

8 - Resolve your action (apply token, push damage, etc.)

* Is an attack resolved? No, that happened already - so no Maneuver
* Is a close combat action resolved? Yes - Vault can be used
* Is this an action with a close combat attack? No - so no Lunge

pilderaboy

10/17/2009, 02:09

ok, since nova blast ang "cheese" sa coming oct 31 tourny, here's some counters to that tactic:

1. BFCs - well, disregard na to since no bfcs ata sa tourny na yun..anyways if facing those kind of teams sa regular tournys, poor teamwork(cancels tk), shrunk/deep shadows/darkness(halves/shortens range), iif(weakens rs) should provide useful against nova blast users...pdf, pwede din(in case puro nimrod tska brainiac kalaban mo)

2. CONTROL THE MAP - nova blast relies heavily on positioning.always know where your team is on the map, as well as your opponent's..i guess it doesnt really matter kung sa indoor or outdoor map kau maglaro.kung magaling yung nova blaster, makakahanap sya ng paraan kahit anong mapa pa yan.

3. MOVES THAT MAKE YOU GO "WTF?!" - as the name implies, learn how to risk it sa clix.most of the time, di ka gagalawan ng nova blast player since "pumoposition" pa sya..it's up to you kung pano ka didiskarte..either sabayan mo sya sa hintayan or biglain mo..unorthodox moves would often make your opponent think or even hesitate..and when that opportunity comes, go for it!la naman mawawala di ba?

4. KNOW YOUR CLIX, KNOW THE RULES - same thing with other teams/armies/metas/games..if you know this, then you can plan accordingly and adapt to any situation.

spiderknyt

10/17/2009, 11:52

marco, meron ding isang way pangontra sa nova blast...UNDERCLICK!! haha! wag ka lang papahuli...nyahahaha!! tsaka thor's chariot, tsaka world's finest...mahaba buhay nila...tatagal yang mga yan...

spiderknyt

10/17/2009, 11:57

pilderaboy

10/17/2009, 21:19

eto seryosong pangontra pero legal...

magkaroon ka ng "hospital" sa map...mga healers (xorn,jane foster) na nakahiwalay at hindi abot ng nova blast, or wildcards copying suicide squad, tbolts to suicide squad, nanobots (KC FLASH), autoregen...

ok sana yan, the thing is, players are probably planning to pack more than one nova blaster..personally, 2 nova ok na, overkill na nga e...3-4 blasters would just be greedy..besides, sa 2000 pts yan.a good team would have ways to deal with the other team's healing.

underclicks, well, may tawag sa mga taong gumagawa nyan, hahaha..:devious:

javeyx

10/18/2009, 00:42

underclicks, well, may tawag sa mga taong gumagawa nyan, hahaha..:devious:E di Pambansang Bading nyahahaha.

spiderknyt

10/18/2009, 22:57

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maniladawg

11/06/2009, 02:14

Since the DATABASE from wizkids is NOT available any GOOD website we can use??

Imibiawrark

11/26/2009, 15:50

My D&D Tactics keeps freezing at the same spot in the game Ninth Eye Rising Adventure anyone else having freezing issues with this game?

Xtriker47

04/04/2010, 20:43

So in the new modern age 300 point format.

Which teams will become staple teams such as lamps, novablasters?

maniladawg

04/13/2010, 23:37

So in the new modern age 300 point format.

Which teams will become staple teams such as lamps, novablasters?

LAMMPS are not going to be a factor in Modern Age since Joker and Lockjaw would not be a part of Modern Age. Also, Armor piercing (feats) is not available in the Modern Age.

As far as Novablasters are concerned, again no feat card! sorry.

For staples in the new "Modern Age"

to be continued ....

spiderknyt

04/14/2010, 00:18

zoom + howard the duck + tk

SI dr. doom + klarion + oots etc.

theme teams atbp

maniladawg

04/14/2010, 01:30

the new "Modern Age"

Geoff posted a list of figures that would be outstanding in the Modern Age. Instead of simply repeating what has been posted already. Let's try to imagine how the Modern Age would affect game play.

Let's start with the obvious

NO FORTITUDE & PROTECTED

this severely handicaps Tent-Pole teams. most tent pole team rely on this TWO feat cards. doesn't mean you can't play TENT POLE anymore. you just need better army build and/or strategy.

RISE OF OUTWIT

There was a severe decline in use of characters with outwit (especially those with only outwit as a useful power). They will be back like the BLACK LANTERNS ... in droves.

LIGHTS OUT (NO LAMMP)

There will be no LAMMP or similarly BUILT army. The absence of ARMOR PIERCING prevents any duplication of this army

NO PULSE

same with Novablast based team.

SLIGHTLY MORE SWARM

the decline of Tent Pole teams will give rise to SWARM teams. SADLY, the rise will not be as much. Swarm teams require more thinking/strategy, unfortunately some players are not inclined to thinking.

MORE SECONDARY hitters

Tent Pole teams will use the extra points loss on FEAT cards to secondary hitters. The search for cost effective secondary hitters will rise

LIGHTS OUT 2

I think Stealth would make a comeback.

Xtriker47

05/21/2010, 08:48

To add to what Prof Dawg mentioned.

People will expect Stealth. Almost any team now will have a Captain America or use Stealth to counter Stealth.

Themes get a hit now without BFC but map choice is still game breaking!

here are some of my 300 point Modern Age teams

Amazon
Amazon 50 x3 (w/Amazon ATA)
Amazon of Bana
Diana Prince 32
Philippus 84

or

Amazon 50 x3 (w/Amazon ATA)
Amazon of Bana x2
WonderWoman 107

Both are scary. They just need map choice

Another team that did well.

Gotham
Bats/Cats duo
AA Batman
Holiday Killer
Gotham detective
pogs

Martial Artist
Robin BATB
Captain America HOT
Gamora 73
Karate Kid 63
Question 37
pogs/Yellow Lantern

Iron Widow Ave 118
Winter Soldier 70
Checkmate White Knight x2 58
Nightshade 50
= 296

spiderknyt

06/22/2010, 07:24

anyone + Indigo Atom

hayate

06/22/2010, 08:17

Captain America
Chief
Moonstone+Tbolts
Marvel Girl
Scarlet Witch
Lantern Object or Pog

gerald

06/22/2010, 09:18

anyone + Indigo Atom

tama ka djan knyt hehehehe and daya nyan...

pero pwede na ngayon mg lamp si lex luthor hehehehe. tapos nakaw outwit pa...but now he carries his own mastermind fodder.

maniladawg

07/01/2010, 21:14

ATAs the Good, the Bad & the Ugly

I think the SHIFT from TA to Keywords in using ATAs is a good move. More COMIC ACCURATE themes

Here's my TAKE on the new ATA

1. ALPHA FLIGHT. The ALPHA FLIGHT TA was always good BUT now it's not FREE. Is it worth it at FOUR points. SADLY the answer is NOT QUITE. If you're playing a THEMATIC Alpha Flight, you might instead want to play Vindicator with Contingency Plan. Con-Plan is ONLY 12 pts and MORE flexible

2. AMAZON. Hmmm. This needs play testing. Although, IMHO, I don't think it would be great at all. Taking damage to get the benefits is REALLY not a good thing. Phillipus with Con-Plan is a better option.

3. CHECKMATE. This one I like. This newly revised ATA is better than its previous incarnation. Getting PERPLEX for 6 pts is a BARGAIN (remember Con-Art R is eleven pts). Sure you should be within 8 of each other (Con-Art should be within 10) BUT you don't need LOS. Amanda Waller could be lurking in Hindering terrain behind blocking terrain and still get the benefits.

4. FANTASTIC FORCE. This one deflates the ORIGINAL ATA but rightly so. The original one was SIMPLY to good not broken mind you. That being said I think they OVERDID it. I don't mind putting a COST to the ATA but the need for ADJACENCY turned me off. Its just glorified DEFEND at this point. A LOS of 6 or 8 would have been enough. Sigh. At any rate it's still useful as it stands now. A 19 defense plus Mr Fantastics Bril-Tac still rules.

5. GREEN LANTERN HONOR GUARD. Really?? This sucks (sorry Darkjacen). Slap Hard-to-find Sinestro-Crisis with Bril-Tac and leave this ATA alone.

6. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY. The ATA per se is GOOD but limited for one reason. The GotG does not have a real brick to use it. Its great protection from OUTWIT, but there is no one in the team that really deserves it. IF EVER the team GETS a real BRICK in their lineup, watch out. The GotG is a cheap FORTITUDE in waiting.

7. JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL. This ATA doesn't work for me. It doesn't have appeal at all.

8. LEAGUE OF ASSASSINS. Pretty good. Stealth in STEROIDS. Worth the seven points. The only problem you might have here is FITTING enough if you have a LoA THEME since the LoA figs are cheap and you would tend to have a lot in a LoA theme.

9. LEGION OF SUPERHEROES. Flat out sucks even at 2 point. Why?? The Wild Card ability of the Legionnaires is much better. Put Alfred(six points) and your set.

10. MORLOCKS. Not worth discussing til we get more MORLOCKS

11. MONSTER SOCIETY OF EVIL. Not bad BUT rolling a five or six can be difficult sometimes. A thematic MSOE might do better. Let me get back to you on this. Needs playtesting.

12. RUNAWAYS. The conditions to use this is to difficult. First, you have to be swarming an opponent. Second, you need to be HITTING the opponent to get the +1. If it modifies DAMAGE instead of attack, this would be a lot better.

13. SERPENT SOCIETY. I don't think PHASING-TELEPORT helps in winning.

14. SQUADRON SUPREME. Have you seen anyone using this. Nuff said.

15. THE SOCIETY. Limited use. BEST use is to slap it on Black Adam-V (unleashed).

16. THUNDERBOLTS. Yes, one of my favorites. Lot of whining on this one BUT like I said (in Alpha Flight) it becomes more COMIC ACCURATE as originally intended. Thor-Ki get OVER it.

Those are my TWO-CENTS worth. Reactions and opinions are welcome.

darkjacen

07/02/2010, 02:29

AMAZON. Hmmm. This needs play testing. Although, IMHO, I don't think it would be great at all. Taking damage to get the benefits is REALLY not a good thing. Phillipus with Con-Plan is a better option.

Play it first, then tell me what you think. You'd be surprised by it. It's a guarantee that the Amazon grunts will take damage, the TA has it merits. ;)

GREEN LANTERN HONOR GUARD. Really?? This sucks (sorry Darkjacen). Slap Hard-to-find Sinestro-Crisis with Bril-Tac and leave this ATA alone.

Why? I agree with you on this one. :p But I don't think 20 solid points should be thrown on Sinestro though, it makes him too much of a target, besides if you're running pure GLC, they have more than enough perplex. Better to have more characters than to have one key perplexer.

MarcOfTheCross

07/02/2010, 06:33

Ok pa rin yung sa Legionnaires kasi you get to keep their wild card TAs in addition to the ATA.

With the Checkmate ATA, I'm not sure but as far as I know, they get to use perplex so they would still need to follow all rules regarding perplex, including LOA. The only modification is in the range (8 squares instead of the regular 10).

spiderknyt

07/02/2010, 12:24

actually, sa checkmate ATA, parang "minion" ability din yan nung iba: yung characters within 8 squares na pwede gumamit nung ability hindi kailangan ng LOS, PERO yung ability na gina-grant nung "minion" ability (in this case, perplex pero instead na free action,power action sha) subject pa rin sa normal rules (in this case, LOS within 10 range).

tsaka once na nagkaroon ng perplex yung character, pwede nyang gamitin kahit kanino, kahit hindi nya ka-keyword.
parang valkyrie common, they can use support to anyone as long as there's an asguardian/deity within 8 squares.

in short ang effect ng checkmate ATA ay: as long as may character within 8 squares na 50 points pataas (no LOS needed), pwede ka magpower action para mag perplex (LOS needed).

Con artist pa rin ako kasi technically, 12 points pataas ang point value ng Checkmate, 6 points sa minion, 6 points dun sa boss...unless multiple minions mo...pero why waste a power action para lang sa perplex? edi con artist nalang. or howard the duck.

weaponizedsoul

07/02/2010, 12:43

clixboy

07/02/2010, 12:55

yes the new ata rules they can still use their existing TA or use the ATA...

maniladawg

07/02/2010, 22:52

Play it first, then tell me what you think. You'd be surprised by it. It's a guarantee that the Amazon grunts will take damage, the TA has it merits. ;)

Very soon. I have the BNS Wonder Woman.

Why? I agree with you on this one. :p But I don't think 20 solid points should be thrown on Sinestro though, it makes him too much of a target, besides if you're running pure GLC, they have more than enough perplex. Better to have more characters than to have one key perplexer.

True. I love that Sinestro and I've use it a couple of times with the BT. BUT i havent run it with a GLC themed army. Ruler and Sinestro Corps yung previous themes ko with Sinestro.

maniladawg

07/02/2010, 22:56

Ok pa rin yung sa Legionnaires kasi you get to keep their wild card TAs in addition to the ATA.

True pero di masyadong useful yung ATA, so i'd rather USE the point somewhere else (like Alfred or Alicia MAsters)

With the Checkmate ATA, I'm not sure but as far as I know, they get to use perplex so they would still need to follow all rules regarding perplex, including LOA. The only modification is in the range (8 squares instead of the regular 10).

Correct the PERPLEX they get is the REGULAR PERPLEX (10 range by the way) the 8 range, No LOS is a CONDITION to get perplex.

maniladawg

07/02/2010, 22:59

@dawg: db sa modern age wala ng feats and bfc? yung ATAs yata e para sa ganung environment.

Also tama ba tong pagkaintindi ko? yung bagong ATAs ngayon pede pa din nila gamitin yung TA na nakaprint sa dial nila?

ATAs apply to the Modern Age BUT youre correct the FEATS and BFCs are not included in the Modern Age

The PRINTED TA remains even if use the ATA. Batman OOTS still will have his BATMAN TA even if u slap him with the JLI ATA

or better yet

HAPPY MEAL SPIDEY retains his Wild Card even if you use the FF ATA on him.

maniladawg

07/31/2010, 13:08

BFCs

We recently (July 31) played a Golden Age tourney WITH a restriction on the BFCs to the NEWER sets. We realize that the RECENT BFCs have not been as good as the OLDER sets. The recent BFCs are MORE for FLAVOR than strategy. Even the few GOOD ones (Deep Shadow, Isolation) are just RE-PRINT of Older Sets. I mean Bizzaro's World, Anti Matter Universe, Exhaustion just doesn't CUT it. Most of the BFCs HAVE limited use OR NOT really useful.

I know they are limiting the use of cards (BFCs, Feats) BUT still they could at least make it useful. 2 cents worth

maniladawg

08/03/2010, 07:25

What do you think is the BEST TEAM at 400 pts for Modern Age??

How about this??

Dr Strange
Namor
Happy Meal Spidey x2

399 Pts

javeyx

08/03/2010, 07:39

Dawg eto na lang wahaha!

THE NIGMACHINE GUN
Nightwing and Starfire
Gotham City Detective x2
Edward Nigma
Batgirl

300 pa lang kumakatay na. Onti na lang 400 na!

ecchs

08/03/2010, 09:37

pffft...overrated. hehehe

javeyx

08/03/2010, 11:06

pffft...overrated. heheheYeah mas fun team yan. But fun. Lots of fun.

Xtriker47

08/03/2010, 12:19

Warriors Three
+ Sif

brawling time :D

spiderknyt

08/03/2010, 13:27

Captain America x 5
Gee or Marvel Girl
=400 pts.

spiderknyt

08/03/2010, 13:29

or

Captain America
Wizard Shazam
Happy Meal Spidey

Geof-Force

08/04/2010, 03:48

Captain America x 5
Gee or Marvel Girl
=400 pts.

Si Kim lang ang ata ang nakita ko sa ATC na may HoT Cap. Moreover, si Cons lang yata ang may ganun karami Captain America haha! :laugh:

darkjacen

08/04/2010, 06:52

How about:

Superman Prime
Lyssa Drak
with 2 Lantern Objects, Indigo and Blue.
Total: 400

or

146 Sinestro
157 CR Green Lantern
90 Starro Green Lantern
Throw in a Yellow Lantern or Blue Lantern for a total of 398 Works wonders in ranged combat. Not to mention you effectively have 3x perplex and it's thematic. Diba Hans Hehe?

Xtriker47

08/04/2010, 07:57

Yup yup I agree!

This might be good too.

Metron 195
The Thing 100
Lightspeed 25
SI Spiderman 50

On a side note: I think Captain America can be neutralized by Nightwing. Thoughts?

Besides 5x Captain America isn't scary. I think this is more brutal

Captain America x2 144
The Thing 100
Gotham Detective x2 54
Scarlet Witch 35
Lightspeed 25

spiderknyt

08/05/2010, 00:15

captain america x2
wizard shazam
scarlet witch
gotham city detective
=389 lang may 11 points ka pa.

maniladawg

08/05/2010, 02:37

Five CAPS?? Really. I'd rather have 8 Spideys heads up against the 5 caps.

Xtriker47

08/05/2010, 09:10

or 1 Thorki + Valkyrie :D

ecchs

08/09/2010, 00:46

javeyx

08/09/2010, 01:29

Nagchampion si Team 8. WTH? Parang ang laro ata dito talaga eh hit-and-hide.

clixboy

08/09/2010, 01:43

patok na patok si blazam ah...sabagay HSS with prob is actually a good combo..pero teka...bakit wala ata akong nakikitang masyadong outwit? at parang puro HSS sila hehehe katuwa ung 3 kid flash...parang langaw sa asar ung team na yan

Geof-Force

08/09/2010, 05:30

eto yung teams na pumasok sa finals (kulang nang isa):

Team 2
Shazam/Black Adam
Shang Chi
Diana prince (ae with support)
Lightspeed
Holiday Killer

Team 3
Metron
The Thing

Team 4
Spider man
Cap
Jason blood
Cave Carson
Oots Batman
Scarlet witch

Team 5
Shaz/Black Adam
Edward Nigma
Cap
Cave Carson

Team 6
2 spidermen
2 caps
Scarlet witch

Team 7
Dawnstar
Nico Minoru
3 Kid Flashes
2 unknown pogs. Can't get close enough to see

Team 8
Shaz/Black Adam
2 Scarlett Witches
2 Jason Blood

If you were also there (wish!), what team would you bring?? parang tingin ko halos nagkakapareho sila sa concept teams except for 1 or 2........

Sinabi ko na: POWER FIG si CAVE CARSON!!! Eto ang ebidensya. Bakit walang maniwala sa akin? Bakeeeetttt? :laugh:

On another note: Great that at least there are more thematic teams than last Worlds (which was way back 2008 before Heroclix temporarily suspended). More power to thematic players! :cool:

weaponizedsoul

08/09/2010, 11:07

300 pts pa din pala ang worlds? nakakagulat yung championship team. 5 prob amp tapos me theme pa. Grabe ang defensive teams sa 300 a.

@javey: at least wala ng SIF bro. pero me barrier peeps pa din. I know mejo disappointing yung mga teams. yung shazam/BA team e parang pareho lng nung mga warbound teams dati pero instead of indestructible barriers and attacking every turn, mgroll ka muna ng 5 beses bago ka makahit. kalokohan amp hahaha.

bakit hindi natin naisip lahat yun? hahaha

Xtriker47

08/09/2010, 11:46

Actually si OOTS sana okay panlaban sa team 8. Stealth means no probs tapos 11 attack at may outwit!

ecchs

08/09/2010, 21:07

may laban kaya ang mga "vaunted teams" from galle/glorrieta and ATC? watuguyztink? am talking teams that usually win sa turf natin vs those teams...........

spiderknyt

08/10/2010, 01:25

malay mo kaya yan nanalo kasi hindi nya tinitigil yung pag-ikot ng dial ni blazam hanggat wala syang nakikitang "KO". baka akala nya unlimited buhay nun. nyhahaha!

javeyx

08/10/2010, 01:29

may laban kaya ang mga "vaunted teams" from galle/glorrieta and ATC? watuguyztink? am talking teams that usually win sa turf natin vs those teams...........I think kaya naman talaga but I guess yung play style yung iba. Smells hit-and-run sobra yung top 8.

clixboy

08/10/2010, 02:04

tingin ko me laban mga gamit natin dito dyan sa mga yan...

Geof-Force

08/10/2010, 03:58

may laban kaya ang mga "vaunted teams" from galle/glorrieta and ATC? watuguyztink? am talking teams that usually win sa turf natin vs those teams...........

Based on figures alone then I would say yes. Those builds are woefully lacking in versatility (i.e. one trick pony). Any average 300 point build Modern Age format I've seen played here can match those (especially yung mga non-thematic). Sa diskarte and swerte naman nagkakatalo yan. Sadly we have yet to send a Pinoy contingent doon sa Worlds so we can only speculate. :disappointed:

weaponizedsoul

08/10/2010, 20:18

me sealed portion tong event na toh so they are definitely worthy of making top 16 or top 8. Yung mga teams nmn nila look weird on paper kasi hindi din natin nakita paano nilaro. Mahilig din sila mgrun ng dupes.

eto mga sigurado based sa mga nabasa ko sa mga threads about worlds:
*heavy playtesting against other likely 300 pt modern age teams
*teams that use the AE mechanic use telephone booth
*every team has a pet map
*use of kinetic accelerator and dynamo stat in addition to other SOs

clixboy

08/10/2010, 20:41

hinde mahirap kontrahin mga ganyan teams for us, we play with a wide variety of tactics as well, and for SO dependent teams sobrang sanay na tyo with that, kame sa galleria we usually destroy SOs oras na makita namen agad yan, most teams require and I can say NEED those SOs badly to function. Case in point, walang gumamit ng BATB batman/catwoman, etong figure sobrang lakas mang nerf ng SO dependent teams sa 300 not to mention ang dali itheme pa. kung heavy playtesting nila resulted in using blazam then I am very sure they havn't played with much variety let alone testing the meta ika nga. There are so many viable and deadly teams out there for 300pts modern age that I believe would not just end there. As they say hinde mo nga naman pwedeng sabihin heroclix worlds yan kung puro kano lang naglalaro at nanalo.. sayang wala lang tayong player na pwedeng sumali dyan

weaponizedsoul

08/11/2010, 21:08

woi patrick ha.. hindi ko sinasabi hindi natin kaya talunin nh! lakas kaya ng pinoy sa utakan:laugh: tska chicano yung nanalo ndi kano.

i'm just playing devil's advocate na maraming unknowns sa 300 meta nila. siyempre alam nating HSS FTW ang style ng karamihan sa kanila, although yung number 2 tentpole ala thanos+lockjaw dati. Yung mga assumptions din based on their teams on paper may not be all true. Astig nga sana kung me makalaban sa atin sa "worlds" e or at least makacompete sa mga ganyan. ang alam ko kasi open invitation yun. punta lng dun tapos kung makasali ka sa sealed nila at makapasok sa next day e kasali ka na sa "worlds". ewan lang next year kung ganun pa din.

stevenrogers

08/11/2010, 21:41

Ok, Next year padadala natin dyan ang Philippine World Champion daw na si Gerald...the 16 year old kid who can give them a whipping!!!:laugh:

clixboy

08/11/2010, 21:47

@jmz hehe alam ko naman kayang kaya natin yan e, pero ung makapunta ng US para dyan ang mahirap hahahha

@cons ay tama ka dyan! si gerald pa!

javeyx

08/12/2010, 00:11

Yeah! Gerald the real World Champion! Mamasuhin daw niya si Massu!

clixboy

08/12/2010, 03:59

hahhahahahaha! nako pow

Xtriker47

08/12/2010, 09:31

Hey just curious about IM & WM duo.

RE: trait

Can you use Pulse wave on all 4 attacks? (assuming of course lahat range at walang nakabase)

Also, how I wish free action yung force blast sana!

spiderknyt

08/12/2010, 10:03

Nope, hindi pwede... 4 attacks lang, not 4 actions. Range combat action ang pulse wave.

maltesers10

08/15/2010, 18:02

destroyer hot + wolverine wos?? combo b cla?
@cons pg uwi ko pinas punthan kgd kita...

javeyx

08/15/2010, 22:21

destroyer hot + wolverine wos?? combo b cla?
@cons pg uwi ko pinas punthan kgd kita...Panalo yan why not?

iron_cowboy

08/15/2010, 23:14

@cons pg uwi ko pinas punthan kgd kita...

wow! so cheesy! lupit talaga ni cons!:laugh:

darkjacen

08/16/2010, 04:43

Panalo yan why not?

Why not is simple. Destroyer won't heal fast enough and Wolvie is better off as an attacker instead of just being lugged around by the 196 points of armor. 301 points total, just 1 point shy of 300, but at 400 points you'd be playing it awfully risky. :ermm: Better to have a dedicated healer instead of just swapping the clicks.

javeyx

08/16/2010, 05:51

But like I said, why not? :p

Kasi if we're to discuss which is better, then dump destroyer altogether and pick the staple Darkseid, Namor, Superman, Metron blah blah. So yeah to answer his question, why not?

ecchs

09/15/2010, 02:38

let's update this thread......

in a 400 point 50% WoS floor (modern age) format, what's a viable counter team vs cosmic spidey's?

Insulares

09/15/2010, 04:21

let's update this thread......

in a 400 point 50% WoS floor (modern age) format, what's a viable counter team vs cosmic spidey's?

Isang can of Baygon! :grin:

But seriously...

Mystics might work. But I have a question: Is the Power Cosmic team ability now worded like the Quintessence TA in the blackest night PAC? It used to say: "This team ability can't be used by wild cards or be countered". Now it just says: "This team ability can't be used by wild cards."

If that's the case, Maybe a future team featuring time trapper and kid zoom? :grin:

ecchs

09/15/2010, 07:05

Isang can of Baygon! :grin:

But seriously...

Mystics might work. But I have a question: Is the Power Cosmic team ability now worded like the Quintessence TA in the blackest night PAC? It used to say: "This team ability can't be used by wild cards or be countered". Now it just says: "This team ability can't be used by wild cards."

If that's the case, Maybe a future team featuring time trapper and kid zoom? :grin:

Yup, Time Trapper and Skrull Yellowjacket can outwit a character's Power Cosmic/Quintessence TA with the new wordings from BN/re-released FF starter set PAC.
But, I don't think Trapper and Kid Zoom would fit in a "50% WoS floor format" team. The can of baygon though, that could work (spray it on the one using CS)*ngiti*

javeyx

09/15/2010, 07:11

Nightcrawler, Doppelganger, JJJ [or any chear perplex(ers)] and Wizard Shazam (panigurado lang, but anyone with a higher point value than DP would do). The works, alam niyo na!

ecchs

09/15/2010, 07:23

winning the map choice is equally important IMHO.
How bout Noh-Varr? I think he can shoot down the cosmic bug given the right teammates.

hayate

09/15/2010, 07:49

2 phyla vell
1 doppel
1 jjj
395 pts
hindi nga lng 50% WoS

spiderknyt

09/15/2010, 11:30

how about, vector, nightcrawler, x-23, jjj, peter parker?

darkjacen

09/15/2010, 23:04

Johnny Storm LE
Noh Varr
F4 starter Invisble Woman
Hammer Agent
J.Jonah Jameson

Flat 400. 2x Pulse Wave c/o Johnny Storm and Noh-Varr. TKer that can't be shot at. Perplexer and a 33 point shield TA filler.

iron_cowboy

09/15/2010, 23:47

1 can of baygon is much easier to use....:laugh:

no WOS figure yet... heheheh... low on budget...:p

weaponizedsoul

09/16/2010, 23:33

alpha strike team can beat spidey.. ang pinakamahirap na siguro sa kanya e yung 19d..

run jason blood for prob with a bunch of wildcards. I think this can beat comsic spidey. Operative word is "can":p

top candidates ko from WOS set would be:

X-23 - 13 attack with blades!
Common Spidey - 50-50 chance to miss PLUS wildcard with decent 11 AV
Noh Var - 12 av with psychic blast
Bullseye - 12 av and 10 range
Deadpool - 12 av, perplex and good chance to avoid damage

Your main strategy could revolve around making cosmic spidey miss. All tentpoles suffer from this problem but cosmic spidey has low damage up front where he's most dangerous and he doesn't have penetrating damage or outwit. Shape change, super senses, imperv, invincible (or similar SPs), mastermind..

TK is a must if you want a chance of hitting him first. hit for at least 4 damage or 2 penetrating. Getting him off HSS will win you half the game.

ecchs

09/17/2010, 00:00

alpha strike team can beat spidey.. ang pinakamahirap na siguro sa kanya e yung 19d..

run jason blood for prob with a bunch of wildcards. I think this can beat comsic spidey. Operative word is "can":p
............

he'll just kill one jason blood and then hide. lalo na kung nasa map kayo with a lot of hindering/blocking terrain (if he wins map choice).

darkjacen

09/17/2010, 00:34

Your main strategy could revolve around making cosmic spidey miss. All tentpoles suffer from this problem but cosmic spidey has low damage up front where he's most dangerous and he doesn't have penetrating damage or outwit. Shape change, super senses, imperv, invincible (or similar SPs), mastermind..

He's also a tentpole, meaning he won't have much in terms of secondary attackers. It'll be hard for him to miss though, his attack value is high enough to guarantee a hit. (well short of him making a critical miss :p) That's where your opponent's dice rolls will determine everything.

Dice rolls...the great equalizer.:laugh:

spiderknyt

09/17/2010, 02:28

Pag si Marco gagamit ng cosmic spidey, you've already won half the battle! Hindi na problem ang luck, strategy nalang!

javeyx

09/17/2010, 05:14

Pag si Marco gagamit ng cosmic spidey, you've already won half the battle! Hindi na problem ang luck, strategy nalang!Pati si Rod, kelangan lang 17D mga figs mo, solb ka na! Kasi hanggang 5 lang roll nun, so tago ka lang hindering hindi ka na tatamaan.

weaponizedsoul

09/18/2010, 21:35

he'll just kill one jason blood and then hide. lalo na kung nasa map kayo with a lot of hindering/blocking terrain (if he wins map choice).

yun nga uphill battle tlga.. you have to land ONE hit that deals at least 2 damage.

yung forcing him to miss thing.. hindi ka aasa sa AV nya dahil mataas na tlga.. pero kung me shapechange/supersenses/imperv ka or yung 50-50 senses ni spidey or invincible para 1 damage ka lng per hit. Mga ganun. Masmasakit para ke cosmic spidey mgmiss or mgdeal lng ng 1 damage vs a balance team who misses once or twice. Damage output per turn ni cosmic spidey mababa nmn tlga even if he does hit.

here's a TKer suggestion pending a rules clarification.. Invisible Woman from the FF starter set.. Which one wins? "can't draw line of fire" or "line of fire is never blocked"?

I think "can't" wins? Every other game mechanic BLOCKS LOF I think..:surprised

EDIT: found the answer..

quoted from this thread about Susan Richards and other similar powers..

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285945

We know that a LOF to Susan Richards is not blocked; it simply cannot be drawn. (This is why HoT Captain America cannot draw a LOF to her.) So this would mean that if Susan Richards is 7 or more squares from Dr. Manhattan then LOF cannot be drawn to her.

so.. me TK na kayo!

weaponizedsoul

09/18/2010, 21:45

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287385&highlight=cosmic+spider-man

DISTURBING cosmic spidey strategy.. punching a hole inside blocking terrain then turtling inside. ewww

darkjacen

09/18/2010, 21:52

here's a TKer suggestion pending a rules clarification.. Invisible Woman from the FF starter set.. Which one wins? "can't draw line of fire" or "line of fire is never blocked"?

I think "can't" wins? Every other game mechanic BLOCKS LOF I think..:surprised

Which is exactly why I used her in the build suggested. Her card clearly states that you can't draw line of fire to her if you're more than 7 squares away. Heck, it even works with HoT Captain America. double pulse wave and her as a Tker makes for an interesting team.;)

weaponizedsoul

09/18/2010, 22:18

Which is exactly why I used her in the build suggested. Her card clearly states that you can't draw line of fire to her if you're more than 7 squares away. Heck, it even works with HoT Captain America. double pulse wave and her as a Tker makes for an interesting team.;)

that's what I get for not reading every post thoroughly! props to you pre for thinking of it! :cool:

spiderknyt

09/19/2010, 11:30

that's what I get for not reading every post thoroughly! props to you pre for thinking of it! :cool:

Kaya din yan ni cap sa avengers map.

perplex damage to 6, tira 2 blocking terrain sa loob, lipad ni lightspeed si cap sa loob. Presto, nakasakay na sya sa tanke. :)

weaponizedsoul

09/20/2010, 00:02

Kaya din yan ni cap sa avengers map.

perplex damage to 6, tira 2 blocking terrain sa loob, lipad ni lightspeed si cap sa loob. Presto, nakasakay na sya sa tanke. :)

oo nga knyt ang kupal.. dapat mga strategy na yan ndi ngeexist!:laugh:

ecchs

10/11/2010, 22:08

yeah, like u cared! lol

Dr.HellCustom

02/19/2011, 08:20

my recent cheese (mas malala pa din yng HA Cap) Icicle + Nightshade + Ares. Kung multiples pa Icicle... Stasis deck coming to life!

maniladawg

06/07/2011, 05:49

The NEW AGE of Leadership.

Comicbooks have the Golden Age and the Silver Age. Heroclix has had TWO ages so far and is currently ushering in a THIRD age. The AGE of leadership. Let's take a look at the TWO previous AGE. First, the AGE of OUTWIT.

The Age of OUTWIT

The AGE of outwit began with HEROCLIX itself. Outwit is without a DOUBT a GAME changing power. During the early days you can't play without Nightwing, or Black Panther or Batman. They simply neuter what you bring to the table. The dominance of OUTWIT was unchallenged, until Critical Mass. OUTWIT wasn't trumped but the decline started creeping in with the introduction of POWER COSMIC TA. Now there are figures who ignores outwit. The reduction of OUTWITs dominance occurred during the introduction of the LEGACY SET, which ushered in the FEAT CARD FORTITUDE. Now, your mightiest FIG gets protection from OUTWIT. (Also, with Fortitude saw the rise of TENTPOLE team but that's another story).

The decline of OUTWIT is simply a matter of numbers. Your opponent slaps a 25 pt fortitude in his Bad A$$ brick of a figure. Your specialist OUTWIT figure is even at its cheapest (27 Black Panther R) is now a point liability. This starts to usher in the use of PERPLEX.

The AGE of PERPLEX.

Perplex was almost as good as OUTWIT even in the beginning Its just that, if you needed to choose between Perplex or Outwit. It was usually Outwit. Until Fantastic Forces came along, it provided PERPLEX with a boost with Brilliant Tactician. But perplex didn't hit its peak til JUSTICE LEAGUE when keywords was included in Bril Tac. Now, THEMED team was the JUICE and it dominated. Swarm team became the norm. Figs like Mr Fantastic, Dr Strange, Robin, Nightwing was all over.

The AGE of Leadership

Leadership first got a slight BOOST with the introduction of Contigency Plan. But all the feat cards are out now that is LOST as well. Now unlike Perplex and Outwit whose effect were TEMPERED by the arrival feat cards. Leadership was REDEFINED (or in comics term REBOOTED). The NEW (and very much improved leadership) looks to be a staple in teams right now. LEADERSHIP has not peaked yet BUT I suspect it will, sooner rather than later.

Dr.HellCustom

06/07/2011, 21:46

great analysis Dawg. But I must say, in my experience, in all of those ages, (di ko na nga inabot yung una. Ü) The power of PC remains constant, even if watered down with the new theme bonus guidelines, it's even more useful now with the new stealth ruling. Probability Control will always be a very reliable power to build around. We can now make a balanced pure PC build with the recent addition of Troia 75th and Capt. Marvel BatB. I suggest newbies to try this and it won't disappoint... Medyo kasumpasumpa nga lang. :-D

darkjacen

06/07/2011, 23:57

Because of PC? Stealth will still work against it, especially during your opponent's turn. Unless of course you're referring to Wizard Shazam and not Capt Marvel. The wizard's PC will always work against any character.

Dr.HellCustom

06/08/2011, 00:12

Nga pla wiz shazam. I always call him Cap. My bad. I was stressing the fact that we could now PC stealthed attackers because stealth now works only on your opponents turns sir. Ü

maniladawg

06/10/2011, 22:28

@Dr HellCustom

True Sir. The relative value of prob-con has remained relatively even throughout, but I disagree with a PROB-based team. I haven't seen a consistently successful team of that nature. Although, I haven't seen it tried on the current field (that's an invitation to play, he he). So, it remains to be seen.

Dr.HellCustom

06/11/2011, 02:36

@ dawg... I tried that with the CSA sa tourney noon kahit papano naka-Advanced Senti pa. Pero may outwit nga lang din dahil kay Owlman pero PC talaga nagpaganda ng laro ko nun. That maybe a good tourney, say 500pt teams with members each having a common power... (amoy outwit) mejo nahihirapan ako sa bagong Sunday sked sa ATC kasi pero I would really love to play regularly again.

spiderknyt

06/11/2011, 04:40

@dawg check out the champion at worlds last year...prob based team yun kaya nanalo. Dahil sa kanya na-nerf ang theme prob. 2 sr scarlet witch, 2 jason bloods, Shadam pa. 5 probs at may 2 theme probs pa.

weaponizedsoul

06/13/2011, 23:16

tska yung sa Age of Perplex thing.. I think it's worth mentioning how Perplex suddenly became so versatile by ruling that the effect lasts until the beginning of your next turn.

I think PC deserves a nerf that we might see next year. Maybe something like once per round or having the free action powers reduced to 8. I honestly don't believe we've seen the last of the rule changes.

maniladawg

06/14/2011, 06:39

tska yung sa Age of Perplex thing.. I think it's worth mentioning how Perplex suddenly became so versatile by ruling that the effect lasts until the beginning of your next turn.

True.

I think PC deserves a nerf that we might see next year. Maybe something like once per round or having the free action powers reduced to 8.

Hmmm ... not sure about this. You really think it's that bad?

I honestly don't believe we've seen the last of the rule changes.

I think rule changes are GOOD as long as the purpose is to EVOLVE the game or make the game BETTER.

weaponizedsoul

06/19/2011, 01:35

oi glen congrats nga pala sa dallas pre we did it! hahaha:laugh:

ako kasi feeling ko talaga yung free action powers dapat hinaan konte. either mind control like na range 4 or your range or just go 8 spaces. Yung changes thing e mukhang nahihirapan sila mgstick sa rules e. So i think it's a pretty reasonable expectation to see another MAJOR change next year. But whatever they decide is fine. I think changes keep the game fresh but could possibly turn off some people so they need to be careful.

maniladawg

06/21/2011, 06:25

oi glen congrats nga pala sa dallas pre we did it! hahaha:laugh:

yehey! the Heat can wait next year.

maniladawg

07/20/2011, 08:28

Any IDEAS in playing sealed in the Cap Set. Getting Quasar or Maelstrom does not qualify as a strategy by the way.

Naalala ko tuloy yung sealed sa UNLEASHED dati. Auto-Win pag nabunot mo si Black Adam. Ha ha ha

clixboy

07/20/2011, 09:18

well swarm was the way to go, played our sealed in glorietta and getting maelstrom is actually a liability rather than a plus since getting him to his sweet spot takes a long time. so far walang nakabunot ng quasar samin, but those who actually had good teams was gerald, he had crimson dynamo as his main hitter, wolfcap was cool but getting stuck with no flyers and no TK sucks. Also you somtimes end up with an all foot slogging team.

spiderknyt

07/20/2011, 12:32

I think maganda ang balance of power sa set na to. Walang cheesy kaya kahit ano mabunot mo fair game pa rin.

weaponizedsoul

07/20/2011, 21:51

I think maganda ang balance of power sa set na to. Walang cheesy kaya kahit ano mabunot mo fair game pa rin.

ewan ko mejo auto-win sina Quasar and Maelstrom e. Pero kung walang makabunot sa kanila very open yung set. Maraming grounded figs at generic pampuno ng team. Marami ding outwit. Ang poblema nga lang ke Quasar tsaka Maelstrom yung mga psyblaster sa set na toh low damage tska panay 6 range.

spiderknyt

07/20/2011, 23:10

clixboy

07/21/2011, 00:05

Actually dalawa nakabunot ng maelstrom sa sealed namin, and ang nagchampion yung may crimson dynamo so out na si maelstrom sa autowin category. Si quasar mabilis resbackan ksi half movement na half range pa.

well hinde natin nabunot si quasar so theoretical pa din yan. at tandaan palagi ang kasabihan..wala sa pana yan, nasa indian yan

ecchs

07/21/2011, 02:36

clixboy

07/21/2011, 05:16

400pts ang nilaro namin...pag 300pts yan mas malakas pa sila quasar at maelstrom

ecchs

07/21/2011, 05:40

400pts ang nilaro namin...pag 300pts yan mas malakas pa sila quasar at maelstrom

i was asking knyt kasi sa 300pts mo lang matetest kung talagang auto-win or not si maelstrom. sabi kasi nya laglag sa autowin category si maelstrom dahil tinalo ni crimson dynamo, but it's a 400pt sealed tourney pala.

besides, ganun din sabi sa GSX phoenix pero natalo din sa 300pts sealed tourney namin before. i think it boils down to who's playing the fig and how he plays it.........

clixboy

07/21/2011, 06:41

i was asking knyt kasi sa 300pts mo lang matetest kung talagang auto-win or not si maelstrom. sabi kasi nya laglag sa autowin category si maelstrom dahil tinalo ni crimson dynamo, but it's a 400pt sealed tourney pala.

besides, ganun din sabi sa GSX phoenix pero natalo din sa 300pts sealed tourney namin before. i think it boils down to who's playing the fig and how he plays it.........

as I said nasa indian yan at wala sa pana....

but IMHO maelstrom is not a good figure to use, opponent can just ignore him and kill the small fry and run away....

Quasar is a different monster....

maniladawg

07/21/2011, 07:01

but IMHO maelstrom is not a good figure to use, opponent can just ignore him and kill the small fry and run away....

ignoring Maelstrom is actually a good strategy, especially in a 400 point game. There is 175 points available to win the game. The LOW AV and Damage (relatively) of Maelstrom upfront is basically what holds it back. And of course the sissy play of the opponents also is a factor.

gerald

07/21/2011, 10:02

yun ginawa ka ignore muna maelstrom tapos pag nag push patayin hehehe o pwede run the clock pero not my style un.

spiderknyt

07/21/2011, 11:20

yun ginawa ka ignore muna maelstrom tapos pag nag push patayin hehehe o pwede run the clock pero not my style un.

pero style yun ng maraming veteran players *wink*wink*

(magbibilang ng range ng paulit ulit tapos iba ibang direction pa para hindi halata!)

clixboy

07/21/2011, 12:00

pero style yun ng maraming veteran players *wink*wink*

(magbibilang ng range ng paulit ulit tapos iba ibang direction pa para hindi halata!)

parang yan ung tactic ng philippines greatest heroclix duo ah!

spiderknyt

07/21/2011, 13:54

spiderknyt

07/21/2011, 14:04

javeyx

07/21/2011, 14:56

Knyt, mas gusto ko ngayon ang stall-nir tactic!

clixboy

07/21/2011, 15:18

oi at least ang kalaban ang nagtatagal at hinde ako. kahit kelan hinde ako gumagawa ng a, b, c, at d. letter e lang aking laging ginagawa and what's worse it works everytime! nyahahhaa

ecchs

07/21/2011, 20:23

Knyt, mas gusto ko ngayon ang stall-nir tactic!

or its variant, stallgem ruse.

for stalling, whether sinasadya o hindi, how bout rolling the dice hard enough to let it drop on the floor, like a couple of times for each attacking fig (hehehe). at least na-eexercise ka pa.

meron pa bang rule on passing turns? like how many times can you pass consecutively??

ecchs

07/21/2011, 20:30

at shempre meron din yung mga "isip ng malalim effect" sa sobrang tagal tumira! Great tactic! Pamatay ng oras! Lalo na pag alam nila na matatalo na yung tentpole fig tpos malapit na maubos yung oras, magiisip ng malalim kahit dalawa na yung token haha!

i remember this guy. grabe, naubos ang oras tig 3 turns lang ata kami.

in a way, alam mo they fear/respect your game that they resort on doing those stalling techs. or yun lang talaga ang alam nilang strat sa buhay. haaaay, i pity the fools......

ecchs

07/21/2011, 20:32

oh, and sometimes more than the stalling...........

free play na nga lang, magbubuo pa ng "cheese" teams panlaban sa fun team mo...bah gawd.

clixboy

07/21/2011, 21:53

oh, and sometimes more than the stalling...........

free play na nga lang, magbubuo pa ng "cheese" teams panlaban sa fun team mo...bah gawd.

shet may kilala ako ganito ah!

hoy conrad umamin ka na, kinukunsinte mo pa kasi eh!

iron_cowboy

07/21/2011, 22:58

since nasa subject na tayo ng stalling...what's the best way to stall?

a) bilang range ng paulit ulit kagaya ni _____?

b)"isip ng malalim effect" (kahit two tokens na! magiisip kung ano ipperplex!) kagaya ni _______?

c) may tatawag sa cellphone kagaya ni conrad?

d) biglang nag last action kasi playing judge sha nung time na yun kahit alam nya na matatalo na yung tentpole nya pero lamang sya sa points! Si ano to ______!

e) or sigawan mo ng "DYAN KA NAGKAMALI!!" para tumagal pa yung turn ng kalaban kasi alam nya sya lamang! reverse psychology stalling nyahahaha! di ba pat?

o kaya sabihin na: SURE KA NA BA JAN?

isama mo na din ito:

f. veteran vs. newbie or average player: pag matatalo na si veteran player ni newbie player at matapos ang oras, sasabihin, tagal mo tumira pre, kahit sya yung matagal tumira, tapos meron pa na pabago bago ng moves, yung mali mo napapansin nya, eh yung stalling techs nya kaya....

iron_cowboy

07/21/2011, 23:00

i remember this guy. grabe, naubos ang oras tig 3 turns lang ata kami.

in a way, alam mo they fear/respect your game that they resort on doing those stalling techs. or yun lang talaga ang alam nilang strat sa buhay. haaaay, i pity the fools......

may nakalaro na ko na ganito... tapos galit pa pag mababa yung ranking nya after the game, maninisi pa...

spiderknyt

07/21/2011, 23:06

gerald

07/21/2011, 23:12

pero style yun ng maraming veteran players *wink*wink*

(magbibilang ng range ng paulit ulit tapos iba ibang direction pa para hindi halata!)

yung maraming sukat sukat pa hehehehe.

stevenrogers

07/21/2011, 23:26

ang pinakamalala kong nakita eh yung inamin pa nyang "strategy" yung stalling technique!!! Ibang klase, buti nlang hindi na naglalaro. :knockedou

Pero may mga players din naman na nagkakamali tulad ni Javey na nag field ng team na lampas sa points kaya auto losss:laugh:

Si jOel naman over costed na sinasadya!!!,napakadaya ng taong yan...grabe, hindi lang sa babae manloloko pati sa clix!!!:laugh: :mad:

Si Harold di na kelangan dayain kasi madalas namang mag auto loss yan dahil sa walang kwentang dice roll...parang walk in the park lang pag nakalaban mo...kahit undercosted pa team mo. :p

Worst pa rin siyempre ung mga players na nag u underclix, ang malala pa nun pati freeplay dala dala pa nila yung napakasamang ugali na yun. wekekkeek

Which brings me to the topic...sino ang worst and best players youve gone up against? and why?? laglagan na boys :laugh:

ecchs

07/21/2011, 23:41

gaya ng sabi ni ecchs:

isama natin sa choices ang:

f)"LAGLAG SA FLOOR ANG DICE AT MASISIPA PA PARA MAS MALAYO ANG PULOT" tactic!

Ang masakit, sa leadership pa ginagawa! ibabato sa labas ng NG yung dice para matagal ang pulutan!

Or kidding aside, mataas mag roll ng dice pag "need 11" sa attack roll para mahulog sa sahig!

hindi lang leadership, pati SS, impervious. masakit pa, dahil ang dami pang prob, ilang ulit pa yun........sa isang banda, nakakapag-unat unat ka naman kahit paano. para umagos sa ulo ang dugo at malinawan sa pag-isip ng magandang strat. hehehe...........

hayate

07/22/2011, 05:32

Which brings me to the topic...sino ang worst and best players youve gone up against? and why?? laglagan na boys :laugh:

worst player: Si Conrad (madaya sa dice roll) :p

do1

07/22/2011, 08:05

worst player: Si Conrad (madaya sa dice roll) :p

best player: javeyx 7 consecutive supersenses! haha...

spiderknyt

07/22/2011, 12:42

ang pinakamalala kong nakita eh yung inamin pa nyang "strategy" yung stalling technique!!! Ibang klase, buti nlang hindi na naglalaro. :knockedou

cons, hindi na naglalaro pero nagpapkita pa? nyahahaha!

wala akong best and worst player eh.

best and worst game meron. hahaha!!

isa sa best game ko against kay XANDY!

Format: Pag nag critical hit ka, remove an opponents character from the game, crit miss remove yung character na nag crit miss.

Story: Na-crit hit nya ako ng nova blast (removing Worlds finest from the game). Then nung turn ko, na- critical hit ko din sya ng nova blast (removing thanos, the only one not hit by the blast)...kaso may follow up ako na isa pang nova blast that wiped out almost the entire team! The game only took 3 turns. Hehe!

worst game ko kay PATRICK!!!

Format: same as above, same tourny din!

Story: Napatay ko na yung thanos nya, so lamang na ako. Then nag last action...(with matching "DYAN KA NAGKAMALI!!!!) nag critical miss si WORLD'S FINEST!! Bwisit na KARMA! Nagkamali indeed!

weaponizedsoul

07/22/2011, 18:38

BEST PLAYER: GATXtrike!!! Wala ng maslulupit sa sealed game namin na puro critical miss tatlo sakin at lima sa kanya pero talo pa din ako! I SUCCUMB!

Walang worst player pero worst DICE ROLLS sakin si Marco tska Ecchs. Ewan ko bakit sila minamalas sakin pero lam ko nanalo lang ako sa kanila kasi hindi makahit ng 5.:p

Absolute WORSE DICE ko ke Patrick tska ke Mark. Coincidentally parang 2 wins each lang yata ako sa kanila.

Si Conrad malupit talaga yan dati maglaro laging me Ghost Widow. :p Naknock out yata yung ng pog ko dati e. Crit.

Huh... andami palang BEST moments dati a. Eto mga runnerup:

*Me time pa natalo ako ng late dial incap ng IC U Spidey ni Joel.
*Astig din yung Black Bolt vs King Hyperion ko na laban ke Knyt muntikan na talaga matalo Black Bolt ni knyt nun.
*Hindi ko makalimutan yung DOUBLES ni javey sakin na naknockout V Strange kasi tumama sa pader at last action pa.
*Si Charlon naman yung all lazarus pit team nya tska pag gamit ng capture Mechanic sa Phoenix cup sobrang nagulat talaga ako.
*Si Conrad kinain ng buhay Arkham LAMP team ko gamit V Ult Cap sobrang astig nun.
*Si Xavier naman naalala ko natalo nya X-Men team ko gamit JLA.
*Any game na kalaban si Myke nakakaloko mga mod.
*Me mahirap ako na game kalaban si Geoff dati ndi ko maalala pero parang Supes-Bats vs JLA ko.
*Ke Marco ako una na-Nova Blast. hahaha. 5 to hit yata siya nun at akala nya ng miss kasi mali bilang nya ng 2 tska 3. :p
*Sa last game ever ko natalo ako sa Origin sealed si Gian yata kalaban ko. Nakabunot ako ng Johnny Quick kaso durog ako sa U Batman.
*Muntikan ko na mapatay KC Flash ni Naj gamit si Ragman and Lockjaw 7 to hit 50-50. Lupit sana nun.

clixboy

07/23/2011, 08:05

Best game:

5minutes tiklop..... naalalala ko pa nung 600pts ang format, ginamitan ako ng NGN superman at sangdamakmak na outwitter (3 ata un) at may matching V empress with novablast pa un! Team ko medyo baduy pa nung time na un kasi konti palang magagandang pyesa ko so umaasa ako sa V superman Icons at sa V dr light ng Icons. Pumwesto ung empress para ready na sa pag nova blast ng team ko tapos ung NGN supes naka abang sa gilid....pinsugod ko ung character ko na may 11 attack at 3 target na incap na incap ko si empress tapos pinadala ko si supes hinampas ng haevy object with perplex ung empress tinamaan at na knock back sa wall , sabi ni xandy teka protected sabi ko hoy naka push ka sa incap (un pala nilagyan nya ng push dmg pero hinde naglagay ng token) eh di patay agad..... sumugod supes nya sa turn nya may dalang object din at pinalo vet supes ko...naka roll ako ng 5 sa imperv! (ang bilis ng turn nya kasi susmugod ung buong team para macompensate ung nova blaster na nawala) pagbalik sa turn ko tk ko ulet ung incap guy ko katabi ng ngn supes nya at voila! na push ko ulet cya! then nagpush supes ko para ihampas ulet ung object sa supes nya,lusot sa imprev nya (roll nya ata 2) bawas! sabay tinapos ni dr light si supes (copy supes TA) after mamatay ni supes nag concede agad niligpit ung figs at tinambak sa lalagyan at hinde ako kinausap....

worst game ko

nung nag roll ako ng 5 crit miss ke KC flash laban kay Gat.....at cya ung eventual champion ng tourney na un hahaha

honorable mention

kay spidermark na laban, sa sobrang excited nyang talunin ung KC supes ko tuloy tuloy un action nya hinde man lang ako pinaparoll ng KC at imperv roll.... tapos pag pounce ni spiderman with object na crit hit ako! sabi ko teka lang roll ka ng roll hinde pako tapos eh...pinaroll ko cya ng KC roll bago dumikit sakin....roll nya 1! hahah sabay time! panalo ako!

onslaught666

08/08/2011, 01:01

guys question lang po and im kind of new sa heroclix

may gumagamit ba kay onslaught? and if ever man how do you use him sa game? and sino mga kasama niya sa team?

maniladawg

08/08/2011, 05:25

guys question lang po and im kind of new sa heroclix

may gumagamit ba kay onslaught? and if ever man how do you use him sa game? and sino mga kasama niya sa team?

not many people use onslaught in tournaments. only because not many people have him and 600+ point games are actually rare. but if you're using him on a 600 point game just point and shoot. As for teamamates, there is TWO ways to go. ADD more attackers OR support figures (figs that have PROBABILITY CONTROL, OUTWIT and PERPLEX). that's my 2 cents worth. Other guys here will have there own take.

onslaught666

08/08/2011, 05:53

got it...

ano ba mga karaniwan na points for tourney?

siguro pag casual games lang pwede laruin si onsalught?

GatX105 Strike

08/08/2011, 06:07

ecchs

08/08/2011, 06:20

got it...

ano ba mga karaniwan na points for tourney?

siguro pag casual games lang pwede laruin si onsalught?

usually its from 300 to 400 points but sometimes nag-se-set din ang mga judges ng high point tourneys. best way to determine is to check regularly yung mga posts sa tournament threads. malay mo mag-set ng 600pt or up na tournament, pwedeng pwede si onslaught........

ecchs

08/08/2011, 06:58

Best games (so far):

1st Nationals: winning all the way to the championship (Prize was Fin Fang Foom)

2nd Nationals: vs Nicky in the finals. Martial Artists vs Chase Supes. that was when i first fell in love with that dang keyword [props to Javey and Marco for encouraging me to use it]) Being the champ 2 times is sweet.....

Team Xtreme 06 (click here for reference (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2220921&postcount=13387)). eto yung may groups with selected named theme teams (back when hindi pa uso nuon ang theme teams). I'm with the Teen Titans team (together with Charlon [leader], Zavier, Arthur and Marco). we lost but boy, that was an uber fun event for me.

At ATC, there was one game vs Khim. I played against a Sinestro Corps team headed by Superman Prime (SP). Battle was inside the Prison Map. there was one play wherein Superman Prime (on his 2nd click) was five squares away from a Shield Disruptor. Don't have a TKer to place the object close to SP so I was thinking of a plan to bring him closer to the object instead. Knockback seemed to be the only solution but there is a wall behind him. Vet Shi first destroyed the wall (para open in case ma-knockback), then Karate Kid (who was on his 2nd to the last click, with flurry) copied the Crusade TA from Shi hoping to get doubles (para gumana yung TA). and he did on his first hit! SP got knocked back enough sa range ng Shield Disruptor tapos kuyog na! that was sweet....

Worse game/s:

those games wherein i rolled 4-5 times na crit miss (in succession) and those games na i only need 4 or 5 to hit but still couldn't get those rolls (as in many times from the same turn). aaargh! can't count the times nangyari sa akin ito.

spiderknyt

08/08/2011, 13:36

guys question lang po and im kind of new sa heroclix

may gumagamit ba kay onslaught? and if ever man how do you use him sa game? and sino mga kasama niya sa team?

Lagi ko ginagamit si onslaught haha! pag above 600, always team him with someone na may xmen ta or ff ta or wildcard para sulit ang ta nya. Pinakasulit sakin yung starter doombots! themed pa, mura pa!

spiderknyt

08/08/2011, 13:40

Best Game:

joel's major event...(i won syempre hehe!:grin::grin::grin:)

1st round vs charlon's swarm team
2nd round vs pat aka DC king(mirror match)
3rd round vs conrad aka stevenrogers(mirror match again)
4th round vs arthur( joker lamp....especially my dr midnite rookie ko'ed joker:laugh::laugh:
final round vs spiderknyt(nova blast)
-rolled 3 for map..while knyt rolled crit miss for the map...which gave me a huge advantage over knyt's team

fought against the best players at that time....ang saya...

worst game:

against kay xandy(win or lose...natalo na b ako sa kanya?...cant remember..)...parati ako nawawalan ng gana pag kalaban cya eh...dunno why.....:disappointed::disappointed:

gat naalala ko to! Tinamaan ko yung KC Flash mo ng need 10 (nag cheer pa lahat ng nanonood!) pero may jinx pala sa kanto ng elevated! Prob then miss. Pero good game. :) Self proclaimed Marvel fanatic who used DC figs to win a championship.How ironic! Haha. Welcome back! looking forward to playing with you again. :)

onslaught666

08/08/2011, 21:16

nice thanks...

pero ano yung doombots? ahahaha...blonde moment...

anong set sya?

spiderknyt

08/08/2011, 21:49

nice thanks...

pero ano yung doombots? ahahaha...blonde moment...

anong set sya?

Sa Fantastic Four starter set. Available at NG. (although kailangan mo ng marami).

stevenrogers

08/08/2011, 23:01

Best game...dami talaga lalo na sa mga major tourneys... But one of the best games i really like was against Mike Chong (the Best there was) at a major tourney na gamit nya si GALACTUS!!!...may mga supports pa yun - with me using "slightly" used expensive figs lang like IC LE Bruce Banner, LE Victor Creed, LE Polaris, TK LE Johnny Alpha, LE Dr. Fate etc (all unused pero mahal hehehehe).
My team actually won with IC Bruce Banner KO'ing Galactus after a series of sacrifices from his "expensive" team mates!!! my Dr Fate as the last fig standing winning me the game.;):cool:
Worst game? one from a guy from the south who admitted na "stalling" was his strategy...buti nlang wala ng ganitong player ngayon...or is there?:knockedou
See you at the tourneys people.

maniladawg

08/09/2011, 02:27

Worst game? one from a guy from the south who admitted na "stalling" was his strategy...buti nlang wala ng ganitong player ngayon...or is there?

wala kang makakalaban ... unless you play yourself.

ecchs

08/09/2011, 05:27

x x x
Worst game? one from a guy from the south who admitted na "stalling" was his strategy...buti nlang wala ng ganitong player ngayon...or is there?:knockedou
See you at the tourneys people.

hmmm, mukhang kilala ko ito.....

hayate

08/09/2011, 07:38

BEST GAME: When I won the Transformer tournament of Sir Joel aka "Ondoy Tournament" Despite the heavy rains marami pa rin kme nkapunta. All of us got stranded because of Ondoy imagined we were playing heroclix during heavy rains and Metro Manila became flooded. We have no idea that time na napakalakas na ng ulan sa labas. My team SS:Illuminati, Shazam Rookie, Gypsy and Gamora. BTW thanks to Sir Joel for organizing that tournament.:classic: :cool:

eliotblacknigh

08/10/2011, 10:12

Best game: today with prof.dawg team(WL sinestro and LE Diana prince) vs my team FF(guardian),nurse,nightcrawler(w/sitorak) and gee.....I roll 5 on sitorak using nightcrawler.....hahahahaha...:)

Worse game: I lost to prof.dawg using night crawler w/sitorak.....:p

Geof-Force

08/12/2011, 12:55

I can't say there was one best game, because there are so many. As long as I learn something new, see a great play (me or the other guy), laugh out loud, or just plain have fun, then it's one of the "best games".

I remember a time when Cons could drop by ATC with Xandy (It was around Armor Wars/CD). I was still a noob then. He beat me with an Ultimate Cap/Thor, letting me see the weaknesses of Icons Supes.

Ecchs is very rarely taken by surprise, but "World's Finest Teen Edition Plus" bowled his Supernova Skrulls over (remember, this was when keywords were very new).

Dawg is always a treat to match wits with (particularly when he brings the extra cheese) but one battle with my Avengers vs. his T-bolts was classic (funny thing, both our Hawkeyes died first... it always happens when we use that character).

Best game I had with Al is me using Classic Avengers (yes, with the Rookie Hulk from IC!) and show how effective it is with the right plays.

With John I got to recreate Infinite Crisis... with his Joker and Lex killing my Alex Luthor.

Marco, is an excellent strategist. But when his rolls are bad, well, they're terrible. Had a game with my X-Factor on the ropes and his Doc Doom just couldn't hit... not even Lila Cheney! Strong Guy got to his sweet clicks just pushing until Doc ran out of Mastermind fodder.

Datu likes girls. He usually has at least one girl figure in every team. So it was funny when Gotham guys gangraped his Supergirl-led LoSH (extra points that I used Man of Steel... incest!). Take it like a man!

Rhomz builds are often cookie cutter cheese but it helps me see the meta more clearly. Best game was WF teen edition plus killing his KC Chase Supes by turn 4.

Javi is like playing a mirror match. So it often comes down to whose Superman makes the hit first. :laugh:

Khim, I am always taken aback by his unusual build sense that even I didn't think would work at first. Doom Patrol led by The Chief nearly wiped out my Teen Titans until Kid Flash Charge+Flurry+Force Blasted him into the water and Aqualad finished him off.

Kail is fairly new, but he's learning fast. His X-Force against my JLA. I underestimated LE Deadpool and overestimated DC 75th Emo-Supes. Lost but it was a good loss.

Like Cons, I rarely get to play Boss Joel but it's always fun. Beating his KC Flash was hard but he got a kick out of seeing my Gotham tie-up (Man of Steel, Alpha Clayface, a couple of Detectives and Captain Gordon). The aerial baffler helped a lot. :cool:

Jesus Chris, is a power gamer though his builds are rarely the usual suspects. But best game against him was my JLA against his Galactus (Old Galactus with Cosmic Multi). Man of Steel, Kyle and Wally softened him up but OOTS Batman sent Galactus screaming like a little girl back to the Marvel Universe (You would too with a Batman that has 13 attack and 6 damage thanks to feats and boosts... and thanks to Vendetta = 900 points!).

Myke I fought once with NGN Supes+Starter Bats against her Ultimates Phoenix. Needing only a 5 with Nova Blast, he rolled a 4. NGN Supes walloped and knocked her back... right in front of Batman. Comic book moment teamwork!

And then there are those BIG tourneys. Lots of memorable games. I always get [] this close but my team's lack of cheese gets the better of me. :disappointed: Still, always a learning experience.

I can't say there are worse games, although any time there's a great play but then my rolls don't agree with me is disappointing, and I so hate stalling/turtling or running away with tentpoles when the opponent already has the advantage! We're playing a game of superheroes/villains, dammit! Stop playing like a P-U-S-S-Y! :p

In any case, I look forward to more years of Clixing with old and new playahs! Cheers! :cool:

alstaire

08/13/2011, 00:50

hmmm, mukhang kilala ko ito.....

Mas kilala ko yan... hehehe... kahit free play ganun talaga laro nun. :laugh:

maniladawg

08/16/2011, 06:35

javeyx

08/16/2011, 08:21

At this point everybody knows that the for 300 points Modern Age tourney, if your playing Metron-XXX then your chance of winning is GOOD.

I was just wondering at 400 points, would Metron-XXX still be DOMINANT. Most veteran players seem to be in agreement that at 400 points Metron-XXX is BEATABLE. I think Metron-XXX is still PRETTY TOUGH even at 400 BUT I agree that non-Metron teams now have a decent chance of winning. Weird though, I haven't actually seen or played against a Metron team in ATC at least.I have an Avengers 300 that has a better-than-average chances of kicking New God ### hehe. People should keep in mind that using Metron means that you employ the i-kill-you-some-points-I-run-away tactic, which works well in a timed game. It's not built to wipe out a team IMO.

ecchs

08/16/2011, 10:30

if you want to see metron+NC or KZ in action, watch the gencon finals sa youtube. 5 minutes lang ata, tapos na yung laban. highlight was both KZ and NS picked up the Gem.

javeyx

08/16/2011, 10:53

if you want to see metron+NC or KZ in action, watch the gencon finals sa youtube. 5 minutes lang ata, tapos na yung laban. highlight was both KZ and NS picked up the Gem.Hmmm I think naatat si Kid Zoom player haha. Watcha think?

ecchs

08/16/2011, 20:45

Hmmm I think naatat si Kid Zoom player haha. Watcha think?

baka gusto nang umuwi hehehehe.......i think ok naman mga moves nya, nag-miss lang si Kid Zoom i think kaya it went downhill from there......

javeyx

08/17/2011, 01:04

baka gusto nang umuwi hehehehe.......i think ok naman mga moves nya, nag-miss lang si Kid Zoom i think kaya it went downhill from there......Magmi-miss talaga yun! 9 ATK lang eh. Sige 10 with help from Metron. Against a 19 with prob! He should've played a bit more conservatively... i.e. find a comfy place to hit-and-run repeatedly (para more chances to hit that 19). I think.

ecchs

08/17/2011, 01:16

Magmi-miss talaga yun! 9 ATK lang eh. Sige 10 with help from Metron. Against a 19 with prob! He should've played a bit more conservatively... i.e. find a comfy place to hit-and-run repeatedly (para more chances to hit that 19). I think.

dapat pala inuna na lang nung may KZ yung nurse. lamang sya sa move and attack.

maniladawg

08/18/2011, 05:02

HA HA.

I just was wondering on the Meta for 400 pts Modern, lo and behold the FINALS of the national will be decided by just that.

Time to put your thinking cap on people.

allen_huang

08/18/2011, 15:58

Nagkamali sila, dapat di namatay si Kid Zoom dun sa one shot, 5 damage lang ung sinapak sakanya, dapat may 1 click of life pa si KZ nun. Haha

do1

08/18/2011, 17:05

Nagkamali sila, dapat di namatay si Kid Zoom dun sa one shot, 5 damage lang ung sinapak sakanya, dapat may 1 click of life pa si KZ nun. Haha

db 5 clicks lng tlg c KZ?

weaponizedsoul

08/18/2011, 18:05

I have an Avengers 300 that has a better-than-average chances of kicking New God ### hehe. People should keep in mind that using Metron means that you employ the i-kill-you-some-points-I-run-away tactic, which works well in a timed game. It's not built to wipe out a team IMO.

This is true. I hope people understand na yung Metron wins come from killing something then running away. Yung Metron+NC kayang pumatay ng tentpole kasi maisolate yung kalaban ni NC for single target pulsewaves.

Sa 400 naman kasi si Metron vulnerable masyado sa mga Perplexed up hitters. Malambot kasi talaga dial nya kung malalagpasan mo lang yung high def na me prob. More points means more support of your own.

allen_huang

08/18/2011, 19:01

db 5 clicks lng tlg c KZ?

Yup, pero nalimutan nila na may toughness siya sa napickup niyang crimson gem of cytopepe!! (di ko maspell) hahahaha

Critical mistake imo!

LabRat

08/19/2011, 00:04

Best game I had with Al is me using Classic Avengers (yes, with the Rookie Hulk from IC!) and show how effective it is with the right plays.

We didn't get to play against each other when you used that lineup. I faced Rhomz, Dawg, and Kail that time. I was just an amazed spectator, watching 4 of the 5 founding Avengers bring it.

Best game I've played was a friendly match - I was returning from retirement and Kim and I played a no-feats match. He used the Warbound and I used the classic Avengers: Rookie Thor from Supernova, Rookie Iron Man, Experienced Captain America and Experienced Quicksilver from Armor Wars, Rookie Hawkeye from Fantastic Forces, Rookie Scarlet Witch from Infinity Challenge. I won (which made the game even more sweeter than me) but what really made the game great was the stand-off between Captain America and Green Scar. After Green Scar ate up Thor and Hawkeye, Captain America engaged him and aside from a re-rolled critical miss (Kim let me use up a theme prob hehe) the super soldier was able to occupy Green Scar while Iron Man and Quicksilver finished up the Warbound. I was pondering returning to the game, and this match really got me playing again (even got me to attend the ATC games more often).

Best tournament match that I had was with ecchs - Daken LE was up for grabs and we had that unique 3 of your figures must have a special ability format. Most of the game decisions I made were the right ones, from map choice, the special objects that I used, and my initial attack - luring the Marvel Knights to a corner and boxing them in - everything went right for me. Ironic since I was contemplating on using the exact same team that he used prior to the event.

javeyx

08/19/2011, 00:29

Yup, pero nalimutan nila na may toughness siya sa napickup niyang crimson gem of cytopepe!! (di ko maspell) hahahaha

Critical mistake imo!OO NGA NO! Haha nice one Allen. Pero dapat talaga pinatay na lang yung nurse, sabay takbo hahaha.

ecchs

08/19/2011, 02:07

We didn't get to play against each other when you used that lineup. I faced Rhomz, Dawg, and Kail that time. I was just an amazed spectator, watching 4 of the 5 founding Avengers bring it.

Best game I've played was a friendly match - I was returning from retirement and Kim and I played a no-feats match. He used the Warbound and I used the classic Avengers: Rookie Thor from Supernova, Rookie Iron Man, Experienced Captain America and Experienced Quicksilver from Armor Wars, Rookie Hawkeye from Fantastic Forces, Rookie Scarlet Witch from Infinity Challenge. I won (which made the game even more sweeter than me) but what really made the game great was the stand-off between Captain America and Green Scar. After Green Scar ate up Thor and Hawkeye, Captain America engaged him and aside from a re-rolled critical miss (Kim let me use up a theme prob hehe) the super soldier was able to occupy Green Scar while Iron Man and Quicksilver finished up the Warbound. I was pondering returning to the game, and this match really got me playing again (even got me to attend the ATC games more often).

Best tournament match that I had was with ecchs - Daken LE was up for grabs and we had that unique 3 of your figures must have a special ability format. Most of the game decisions I made were the right ones, from map choice, the special objects that I used, and my initial attack - luring the Marvel Knights to a corner and boxing them in - everything went right for me. Ironic since I was contemplating on using the exact same team that he used prior to the event.

i remember this one. going into the finals, i know the Marvel Knights will have a tough time against your JLA. Nice match.:)

capt charisma

08/19/2011, 03:53

With John I got to recreate Infinite Crisis... with my Joker and Lex killing his Alex Luthor.

Baliktad chief, natatandaan ko pa yun :)) Storyline team-ups yung theme ng tourney nun. Alex Luthor + Superboy Prime team ka nun, tapos ako "Salvation Run" theme (specifically issue 1, pero applicable din yun sa lahat ng villain team ups). :))

Best match: Basta may nakakatawang linya tulad ng "naknangtokwa, okay na matalo, basta hindi ma-K.O. ni Aqualad!".

Worst match: 1 oras na hintayan tsaka habulan. Batu-bato sa langit, ang tamaan...

Geof-Force

08/19/2011, 04:35

Baliktad chief, natatandaan ko pa yun :)) Storyline team-ups yung theme ng tourney nun. Alex Luthor + Superboy Prime team ka nun, tapos ako "Salvation Run" theme (specifically issue 1, pero applicable din yun sa lahat ng villain team ups). :))

Best match: Basta may nakakatawang linya tulad ng "naknangtokwa, okay na matalo, basta hindi ma-K.O. ni Aqualad!".

Worst match: 1 oras na hintayan tsaka habulan. Batu-bato sa langit, ang tamaan...

Oo nga baliktad. Haha! Tanda ko yan, hinahabol ng Aqualad ko yung fig mo dahil may Willpower. Mas ginusto mong ma-KO ni Young Superman :p

Anong habulan yun? Hindi yata larong ATC yan! :mad:

MarcOfTheCross

08/19/2011, 14:48

pashare din. best games that i can remember were nung mga newbie days ko pa.

it's not a major tourney pero natalo ko for the 1st time si Joel..sa glorietta pa to, ung hindi pa sumasabog ung G2 at sinisita tayo ng guards pag sarado na store pero andun pa tayo..anyway, i remembered using E green lanterns (Hal Jordan and Kyle Rayner) and some support figs..this also won me clix player of the month.

another good game that i had was nung 1st time ko rin natalo si Ecchs using his KC Flash with V peanutbased Hawkeye...

i can't really pick a worst game..siguro ung mga talagang minamalas ako sa rolls.

capt charisma

08/22/2011, 20:45

Oo nga baliktad. Haha! Tanda ko yan, hinahabol ng Aqualad ko yung fig mo dahil may Willpower. Mas ginusto mong ma-KO ni Young Superman :p

Anong habulan yun? Hindi yata larong ATC yan! :mad:

Dignidad nalang yun. Ma-K.O. na ng lahat, wag lang si Aqualad :))

maniladawg

09/12/2011, 01:28

My 5 Favorite Figures of ALL Time

1. KC Flash. I've played this FIG quite a bit during its heydey. Funny, I actually DIDN'T have one then. I usually borrowed Ecchs or COnrad's KC Flash when I played. The 12 ATT and 20 DEF would still be EXCEPTIONAL today.

2. Oracle (+ ICWO). I almost always play this. Goes well with almost anything. For 47 points (Oracle + 2 ICWOs) you get TWO self-perplex, and one perplex or outwit.). They won't make anymore of this for sure.

3. Shazam R (Origin). I always play this with NANOBOTS. The question I always get is WHY? Those i've played with doesn't ask that anymore. It's all in the MATH. This is a BEAST for 100 something figures (105). HSS, 4 Dmg, Imperv. then the same with OUTWIT on the backend plus regen. What's not to love.

4. Spider-Man (SI). 50 pts?? Really. I play multiples of this one whenever possible. I always play at least two. With a perplexer, this is just so SWEET.

5. Namor (SI). Spider-Man's BIG brother. Charge-Flurry. 4 dmg. 18 def. Defender TA. SStr. All for the bargain price of 150.

just missed the cut. Bullseye WoS

POST your FAVORITES.

iron_cowboy

09/12/2011, 05:08

my favorites!

1. ms. Skrullvel SI - Stealth, Hypersonic, Shapechange, Outwit, 4dmg with SStrength. Just Love this figure.

2. Namor SI - at 150 pts. Charge/Flurry. wow! superman-lite. Use the right map or a hydrant, voila! regen!

Special mention- SI Herc. Charge/Flurry/Plasticity/SS for 2 objects. another wow!

3. Spider-girl Si/Karate Kid Crisis/Spider-man - Wild card TA characters. mystics anytime. Good for tie up also. with high AV and Def.

Special mention: Young Superman (LOSH)

4. Superman vet Icons - need not to explain why!:devious:

special mention: NGN Superman (CD) - i just love this figure.

5. Merlyn - low cost range attacker.

honorable mentions:
- DC75th Ganthet - papa smurf really rocks!
- Isis/Osiris tandem with Mindless ones.
- The Manbat Assassins! goes well with any Martial Artists.

maniladawg

12/24/2011, 20:10

Interesting MECHANIC (He is me, I am Him) for Adam Warlock-Magus! Any IDEAS to EXPLOIT them??

weaponizedsoul

12/24/2011, 20:50

Interesting MECHANIC (He is me, I am Him) for Adam Warlock-Magus! Any IDEAS to EXPLOIT them??

guardians of the galaxy baby! This is going to be MY set! hahahaha.

gg010 V Adam Warlock
Team: Defenders
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 165
Keywords: Cosmic, Guardians of the Galaxy, Infinity Watch, Mystical
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(Special) He Is Me, and I Am Him: After an action resolves during which Adam Warlock took damage from an opposing character, you may replace him with #020 GG Magus on the same click number.

gg020 V Magus
Team: Power Cosmic
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 165
Keywords: Cosmic, Deity, Ruler, Universal Church of Truth
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(Special) He Is Nothing, and I Am Everything: After an action resolves during which Magus is healed of damage, you may replace him with #010 GG Adam Warlock on the same click number.

(Damage) I Am Their Deity: Magus can use Exploit Weakness and Leadership.

You want to play their clicks accordingly. Yung wording kasi after action resolves e. So if you want to push the next turn without damage then after taking a hit with a token on Adam switch to Magus for Power Cosmic. On click 5 and 6 on Magus you can actually Steal Energy then revert to Adam on Click 4 which has HSS and Perplex or Click 5 which has Pulsewave, Phasing and Prob. You can actually use Outwit AND Perplex or Prob in the same turn if your Steal Energy hits!

I would probably start with Adam Warlock on a Guardians of the Galaxy team. He's pretty legit on his top clicks and can tank some damage with Invul. Try to use Running Shot so you're standing on hindering. After you take a hit switch to Magus for Stealth. Awesome. If you want to run feats then Auto-Regen is a no-brainer.

spiderknyt

03/16/2012, 13:01

Wow! Come July 01 bago na ang meta!! Infinity Gauntlet na ang meta ngayon!! Who do you think will dominate? (or sino ang the best figure to put the gauntlet on?) Para sakin si Juggernaut! Anti PsychiC blast, full movement charge, power cosmic pa! Si Superman kasi mabilis babagsak sa Mystics team, sargon, r daredevil and wildcards lang taob na si supes kahit may gauntlet pa (of course die-hard supes fans would argue).

weaponizedsoul

03/16/2012, 21:15

Yung isang team na sinasabi nila na ayos e Supes/Eradicator+Gauntlet. Pagkapatay ni Supes lalakas si Eradicator habang pinapaikot yung Gauntlet.

My take on it: MOE.

Earth Man+Gauntlet with Baron Zemo. Malalambot mga dial nila yung ang poblema. Pero kung makakatago ka ng at MOST 7 turns with MOE+Leadership+50-50no damage from MOE, pedeng mafull dial mo agad si Earth Man. Double Psychic Blast ka din kung sakaling sugurin ka tapos Cosmic keyword walang Speed Powers, -2 def pa. This could get better with Dr Doom kung sakaling halimaw dial niya +cheap MOE source.

ca054 V Baron Zemo
Team: Master of Evil
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 150
Keywords: Masters of Evil, Past, Scientist, Soldier
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(Special) Master of the Masters: Whenever a friendly character uses the Masters of Evil team ability, roll a d6 that can't be re-rolled. On a 4-6, that team ability does not deal 1 unavoidable damage for this action.

sm023 E Earth Man
Team: Legion of Superheroes
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 98
Keywords: Future, Green Lantern Corps, Legion of Super Heroes, Legion of Super Villains
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(Attack) Absorbancy: Give Earth Man a free action and choose a standard Attack power that an adjacent character can use. Until your next turn, he can use that power.

(Damage) No Place to Hide, Alien!: Opposing characters with the Cosmic keyword can't be given power actions to use standard Speed powers. Those characters modify their defense values by -2 when attacked by Earth Man.

So far pinakatrip ko lagyang Gauntlet dun sa GG si Silver Surfer. 20 square swing! Kung partneran mo ng AIM Agent pede mong saktan Gauntlet user nila early game.

gg036 V Silver Surfer
Team: Defenders|Power Cosmic
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 236
Keywords: Annihilators, Cosmic, Defenders, Herald
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(Special) Defenders, Ride with Me: Silver Surfer may carry up to two single-base characters regardless of their combat symbols or possessing Battle Fury. When Silver Surfer carries only characters with the Defenders keyword or team ability, modify his speed value by +2.

(Speed) A Distress Call Half a Galaxy Away: Silver Surfer can use Running Shot, but doesn't halve his speed value when using it.

Lobo looks good on paper kasi durable. Poblema talaga sa kanya e vulnerable siya sa first 10 turns typically. Konteng penetrating lang feeling ko todas na si Lobo.

sm042 E Lobo
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 2 :bolt:
Points: 169
Keywords: Brute, Justice League International, L.E.G.I.O.N.
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(Special) Blah Healing Factor Blah: At the beginning of your turn, as a free action you may heal Lobo of 1 damage.

(Attack) Lazy DAWG: Lobo can use Flurry. Before the second attack, roll a d6. His damage value becomes the result minus 1 and is locked.

(Damage) Hook, Line, and Massacre: Give Lobo a power action, and choose an opposing character within 5 squares and line of fire, and roll a d6. If the d6 result is higher than the number of squares to that character, you may place that character in a square adjacent to Lobo. On any result, you may then make a close combat attack.

darkjacen

03/16/2012, 22:47

Lobo looks good on paper kasi durable. Poblema talaga sa kanya e vulnerable siya sa first 10 turns typically. Konteng penetrating lang feeling ko todas na si Lobo.

True, pero mahirap siyang patayin. Kung wala kang follow up, before you know it he's back to full health. In maps that offer him some form of protection from range or kung meron siyang mga pang tie up, nakakainis siyang makalaban.

ecchs

03/16/2012, 23:39

True, pero mahirap siyang patayin. Kung wala kang follow up, before you know it he's back to full health. In maps that offer him some form of protection from range or kung meron siyang mga pang tie up, nakakainis siyang makalaban.

true dis. Lobo is really hard to KO given the right teammates. regarding the IG, useless to talk about this stuff kung hindi rin lang tayo magkakaroon dito. siguro mas magandang pag-usapan kung how to counter it rather than how to use it kasi malamang yung mga iilan na nakakuha through international trades lang naman ang makakagamit nito. it might be a META abroad, but not here sa Pinas unless marami ang makaka-access nito dito. my apologies for the rant.

Hisui

03/17/2012, 02:41

ecchs

03/17/2012, 06:17

I agree.......and a very Valid RANT!!!!!

then why the thumbs down sign? hehehe....

Hisui

03/17/2012, 12:10

then why the thumbs down sign? hehehe....

Ay oo nga!

The thumbs down is for the situation we are in.

I also wanted an INFINITY GAUNTLET. Too bad that we Have to get it elsewhere since it was not "MADE" available to us.

I give your previous post a thumbs up!

weaponizedsoul

03/18/2012, 11:34

true dis. Lobo is really hard to KO given the right teammates. regarding the IG, useless to talk about this stuff kung hindi rin lang tayo magkakaroon dito. siguro mas magandang pag-usapan kung how to counter it rather than how to use it kasi malamang yung mga iilan na nakakuha through international trades lang naman ang makakagamit nito. it might be a META abroad, but not here sa Pinas unless marami ang makaka-access nito dito. my apologies for the rant.

ah hindi pala nakadating ang IG sa inyo bro? bad trip yun a. wala pa din ako pero madali lang nmn makakuha dito e. Naku ang next na restricted talaga magiging Gauntlet VS X or mirror.

The best counter is to use IG too. The SECOND best counter to kick the IG user's teeth in bago pa makabwelo. Alpha Strike stuff like TK, move and attack powers, modifiers and penetrating damage. I think the way you kill Metron would be viable. Poblema nga lang magrorotate out na mga malalakas sa kanya like HoT cap, NC, Tbolts parti pipol.

Adam Warlock looks really good. Sunboy x2 din with the LEGION LOST ATA kaso kelang all LOSH team ka. Eradicator can work too partner mo with TK and Earth One EMO Supes. Mga ibang second tier teams sa Metron Era pedeng pede pa din. Magneto with Hellfire guards. Prof X. Mass Increase (Star Boy and Harry Leland) teams with Dirk Anger or Leech. Isis+Osiris. Anything with Air Stirke. Madami pa din namang viable meta teams. Anti-tentpole pa din dapat ang strat mo.

Solo teams din me pag-asa against gauntlet teams kasi kung 1v1 ang labanan me kaya talaga sila 300 Supes and Black Adam, Phoenix, GG Silver Surfer, 300 Galactus, WL Sinestro or Supes, Attrocitus is also viable to get rid of Imperv.

I've hardly ever used any of the above. Suggestion lang mga yan. Malamang kung maglalaro ako ng Modern puro rogue meta gagamitin ko kasi halos lahat ng theme ko Silver lang pede.

Eto isang team na hindi ko gnagamit pero matagal ko na gusto gamitin for Modern.

Abin Sur FF
Deadshot+Secret Six ATA
DickBats
Major Talbot
Tarot

Unfortunately madaming meta weaknesses. HSS bricks will be hard to catch without TK. Air Strike destroys the team. But it's mobile and plays to my one of my strengths which is positioning. Deadshot is pretty good against tents. I also read almost every issue of Gail Simone's Secret Six+Villains United which another megaPLUS.

So ayun. Kung gusto mo mag rogue team ayos lang din. Gamitin mo lang mga sigurado kang concept na alam mo talaga. Kahit mahilig ka pa ng HSS or PC. Me lalabas at lumabas na pedeng-pede sa style mo. Dapat sigurado ka lang talaga sa sarili na yun gusto mo gamitin. Wag kang magrereklamo sa team ng kalaban mo hindi cool yun. :grin:

DISCLAIMER: Hindi ako GENIUS TACTICIAN or META GURU. Nakaw lang lahat yan sa thread na toh. Sa Strategy Forum yan dito sa hcrealms. Tignan nyo mga ideas nila. Madamig boring na team pero kung gusto niyo makita yung mga posibleng keso talaga sa bagong Modern Age e silipin nyo yung thread. (http://hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=357557)