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I am not a big fan of this film, this for me is the height of DeNiro and Pesci rehashing past performances and falling into becoming almost parodies of themselves. This film looks good and has a decent story as far as the Gangster genre goes but it just doesn't do it for me.
6 out 10
Can I just cut/paste my review of "Goodfellas" here?
So, only the single rating for Casino then? And here I thought this was a pretty popular and well known picture.
CURRENT HCR MEMBER RATING:
CASINO - 6 / 10
(1 member rating)
Hard to watch Sharon Stone & Joe Pesci together--- eeccchh. Nice addition of Don Rickles.
Liked it better than Heat, but not as much as Goodfellas.
Not a bad movie, just not a great movie.
7.7 out of ten.
It's hard for me to rate this movie, without a little rant. First the rant:
This film is probably the definitive Marty Scorsese picture. First, it's his signature genre (thugs) with the drama centered on his signature element (the characters are doomed because they cannot fight their nature). Second, as a director...almost NOBODY else consistently gets the best performances possible from his actors. Third, it's monstrously long. My snide put-down of MS is that he never films a scene that he's willing to cut.
Now how do these things add up, IMO? I paid full ticket price for myself and a date to see this film, and I felt I got my money's worth. It earns a 9.0/10 from me.
CAVEAT: This film is hurt by the 'stereotypical' casting of DeNiro and Pesci, but all of the actors do a great job. The film (like all of MS') is also hurt by it's run time...almost 3 hours IIRC. If he'd had better/tougher/less afraid film editors, MS would have a shelf full of Oscars by now.
While I agree whole-heartedly on Martin's capability, he, himself admits that part of the reason he has less Oscars than people would expect of him is because, frankly, the Academy is still political and Scorsese has no qualms about stating his feelings or mouthing off to the people to whom he should shmooze. That's interesting, really, because to get to where he did he had to have the skill at some point so you're left wondering where the break-off point in Hollywood politics is that he offends so many voters with the Academy.
While I agree whole-heartedly on Martin's capability, he, himself admits that part of the reason he has less Oscars than people would expect of him is because, frankly, the Academy is still political and Scorsese has no qualms about stating his feelings or mouthing off to the people to whom he should shmooze.
I'm not a voting member of the Academy, and while I enjoy MS' work very much...his brutally long films have really hurt him more than any East coast/West coast breakdown. The long stories are great showpieces for his actors, but they really get in the way of (finishing) the stories, IMO.
Over-indulgence on Scorsese's part. Where Goodfella's was fresh and vibrant, this one tried to replicate it and flesh the character's out, but there wasn't a strong enough centre to hold it. Some movie deserve a long running time, this didn't. Points for ambition, minus points for rehashing Peshi in the exact same role.
Now I really enjoy this movie. All jokes aside that it's almost Goodfellas 2, this movie had alot going for it. While Pesci played the same character, I thought Deniro's "Ace" had enough of his own character to distinguish somewhat from his character in Goodfellas. Sharon Stone had a hell of a performance considering I hated her. Not Sharon but Gloria. Some nice contributions from Don Rickles and James Woods, the true downfall of this film was really its Goodfellas roots. Oh, yes 3 hours is too long but not detrimental. Cutting by a good 30 minutes would have been beneficial.
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