HCRealms Mafia Game Thread

[kontrol]

::sigh:: At this point we have little choice do we.

[theanalogkid]

First a werewolf tears me up, and now I might swing. I can't say any more that you would beleive or not, so I wil use math. When I swing, and the Mafia kill a townie, that will leave 6 people. One or more Mafia, a skrull, and 3 townies. To make somone swing tommorow , you will need one of the mafia of the skrull to vote with you. Keeping me around insures you keep that vote. You know I am not Mafia or the Skrull, so just wait and see what happens.

Change Vote: No Vote

[kontrol]

vote: theanalogkid

I think he actually claimed to be the cop at one point.

[theanalogkid]

I have never claimed to be the cop. I am Nick Fury. I win when you win. I have no special powers. I am independent, and was using this place as a hideout when you all showed up.

[kontrol]

The Marvel's master of espionage can't do anything during a murder mystery? That would really suck.

::Shrug:: I'm probably dead in the next few days anyway, if not tonight.

[theanalogkid]

The Marvel master of espinoge who has been in hiding since Secret War.

[JacinB]

I hate doing it because, while his story is fishy, I don't know what evidence we've got against him and I'd hate to find out his story was true and we killed Nick Fury.

But, I also understand that you guys don't trust his story and, since you've trusted me, I'll trust you.

Vote: theanalogkid.

And, for the record, I'm not Wolverine (duh). I'm also not Luke Cage. I'm Spider-Man. My power is that my spider-senses warn me of pending danger so I slink out before I get hit. I've been targeted two times that I know of, and I've successfully avoided both attacks.

[theanalogkid]

Just rep me all who were wrong. I know who I am.

[Iron Ham]

I know i'm not supposed to post here EVAR AGIN!!11!!11!!11!!111111!

But grats on 1k posts....

[Peers]

JacinB (1) -- lensnart
Lensnart (1) -- Doombot,
theanalogkid(4) -- JoH, SStra, kon, JacinB,

About one hour left, needing five votes for a majority... or do we... hrm...

[lensnart]

I fear that my reprieve will only last until morning but.

My Vote:The Analog Kid

[Peers]

The day phase ended at 23:15 board time; no vote was reached and therefor nobody has been lynched.

We are now in the night phase of day 5... or six... honestly, you're having troubl etelling days and nights apart now. The night phase will end when I receive PMs from everyone or 24 hours have passed.

[sstralkowski]

Ok, so we didn't get the target. Now what? I wish we still had a tracker.

[sstralkowski]

I know no one's on here yet, but when everyone gets here, I'd like to go over our options for tomorrow. Granted it's going to depend on what happens tonight, but we need to plan a little better than we did yesterday.

EDIT: Spelling

[sstralkowski]

Kontrol, you seem to be the only one on. Any ideas?

Oh and FYI, since Antipathy is in China, he most likely will not be sending his night (assuming he has one) target so this phase might last a while.

[kontrol]

Kontrol, you seem to be the only one on. Any ideas?

Oh and FYI, since Antipathy is in China, he most likely will not be sending his night (assuming he has one) target so this phase might last a while.

Ideas. Not much right now. Though it may be a blessing in disguise that we didn't lynch analog during the day.

I'm hoping for the Night phase to clear some things up. One way or another.

[theanalogkid]

I certainly count it as one. I honestly think that Antipathy should be looked at.

[sstralkowski]

I certainly count it as one. I honestly think that Antipathy should be looked at.

Do you have a reason behind it?

[Peers]

Just waiting on one PM. And it's not Antipathy; I've got 'standing orders' from him, so to speak...

[sstralkowski]

I certainly count it as one. I honestly think that Antipathy should be looked at.

My only hesitation would be that since we know of him traveling to China IRL, it probably means he's away from access to the realms. Which also probably means that he's not able to use his night ability, which means that if someone dies tonight, he's not the Kingpin...unless Peers just picks for him.

[sstralkowski]

Just waiting on one PM. And it's not Antipathy; I've got 'standing orders' from him, so to speak...

Oh, ok.


HEY SLOW POKE!!! HURRY IT UP A BIT!!!! :devious:

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sorry guys, its my pm we're waiting on. Give me a bit to catch up.

EDIT: Aaaaand PM sent. I hope Analog won't hold his near death against us if my investigation bears fruit.

[sstralkowski]

Sorry guys, its my pm we're waiting on. Give me a bit to catch up.

EDIT: Aaaaand PM sent. I hope Analog won't hold his near death against us if my investigation bears fruit.

SWEET!!! Let's get this witch hunt started. :devious:

[sstralkowski]

EDIT: Wrong thread. My bad.

[Peers]

Night Phase #6 is over!

Their numbered dwindled, the bunker-dwellers tried to go about their business as best they could. The day had taught them that a well-worded legal argument could stall them in their quest to lynch someone, and even worse, slow their momentum and prevent them from enacting mob justice upon anyone, apparently.

This night, however, mistaken identity would reign. Much as previous nights, two heroes worked together, one watching the other's back they he investigated his fellows. Much as previous nights, the shape-changing menace among them stalked the night, attempting to use his powers to cause confusion. And once more, someone stalked the night, trying to balance his rage and his need to be professional about this.

As one of them snuck into his chosen room to look for evidence, a confrontation happened outside. One killer, one healer, face to face. It seemed as if it would end in bloodshed... until sounds of a struggle drew them both into the room. There, the killer's chosen target, the healer's chosen patient, was engaged in a life-or-death struggle against... himself.

"What do we do?"
"My deal lady, I intend to do nothing. If either one of them dies, I come out ahead."
"You monster... I've found one ally here, one man I can trust. I won't let him die... and you can't take all three of us."
"A dubious assumption... perhaps you would feel better if I told you I was after the shape-changer tonight?"

Hearing that, the two investigators paused for a moment... all the opening one needed to tear off the other's image inducer. "He's the Skrull! Look!" The other man shimmered slightly, his skin turning green and leathery.

The killer and healer glanced at each other and moved towards their men. The healer began looking for injuries to treat on her hero, while the killer advanced on the Skrull and beat him mercilously into a dead, bloody pulp.

"Wait," The Kingpin said. "... Skrulls bleed green, not red."

"And image inducers," said the healer's patient, "Can be planted during a fight and run by remote control."

The healer cried out as the man she was tending sprouted leathery wings and run through the door, shrinking and taking flight through the dark corridors. The Kingpin left silently, seething in fury at having been had again, while the healer tried to revive her friend... and failed. He last words were simply this...

"Antipathy... is... a Hero..."

JackofHearts2005 is dead. He was The Falcon, Hero-Aligned High-Flying Agent of SHIELD.

Jack, please do not post or PM about this game until it is complete.

The rest of you have now entered the day phase of Day Seven. With seven players remaining, four is a majority vote.

[JacinB]

That's not good ...

[sstralkowski]

Holy ####### ####!!! How the F did that happen?!?!

[lensnart]

NOOO! That was the one guy that I trusted completely.

Okay heroes we really have to stop fighting amongst oursleves and start taking out some mafia, no more finger pointing back and forth, lets take down the people that aren't even claiming to be on the side of good.

[Doombot 3.1]

That is not good at all. JoH is gone, and both Kingpin and the Skrull are still around.

[kontrol]

WTF?

Judging from the write up, the Kingpin targeted the Skrull and the Skrull and the Doctor both targeted Jack. Meaning that the Kingpin ended up killing the Falcon and the Doc ended up healing the Skrull. Since the Skrull obviously body switches.

This means we have to find the Skrull first and foremost. His agenda doesn't help the heroes and it doesn't help the mafia.

[kontrol]

Course it would be too much to ask the Kingpin to tell us who he targeted last night wouldn't it?

[kontrol]

It's too much to ask for a forensic cop isn't it?

[JacinB]

Alright, here's the thing:
We've got seven players left. Five of us just posted here expressing shock and outrage that JoH's went down, and have -- apparently -- all been working towards eliminating the remaining mafia and Skrull.

At least one of us isn't who we appear to be.

Further, the write-up reveals that JoH's last search revealed that Antipathy was a good guy. That means that the only living player who hasn't posted here who is 'unaccounted for' is theanalogkid.

Unless the Kingpin reveals himself and says, "Hey, I targetted so-and-so" last night, I've got no idea who to go after at this point. And, even then, I'm not sure I'd take his word as he'd just as likely point to a remaining good guy ...

Ugh.

[lensnart]

Here is how my dance card reads, JOH was a hero, he followed and identified myself and Antipathy as heroes, he also seemed to trust SS and Jacin B (though I am not sold but lets go with this for now), Analog Kid claims to be independant (skrulls are independant) but he claims to be the watcher. Doombot 3.1 has hung back in the wings and followed when it was comfortable to do so, maybe kinpin or maybe just playing smart. Kontrol is a wildcard but he does seem to be at least concerned about getting the skrull out of the way before mafia and heroes duke it out.

I really think that we have one too many heroes, but that is something that I would love to be wrong about so I say lets assume that things are as they seem.

Right now the number one worry is skrull and it seems that the most likely candidate is Analog, so I say thats who we target.

My Vote: Analog Kid

[JacinB]

Good enough for me, I guess. We already know we can't lynch you, apparently. ;)

Vote: theanalogkid.

[Peers]

Voting:

Theanalogkid(2) -- JacinB, lensnart

I really don't think we'll go 24 hours on this one, guys... the game speeds up a lot near the end.

[sstralkowski]

WTF?

Judging from the write up, the Kingpin targeted the Skrull and the Skrull and the Doctor both targeted Jack. Meaning that the Kingpin ended up killing the Falcon and the Doc ended up healing the Skrull. Since the Skrull obviously body switches.

But if the Skrull targetted JoH, wouldn't he be in JoH room? How would he know that JoH would be in Antipathy's room so he could be there waiting for him? I think you're making a leap here. That makes me suspicios. If you could explain your logic better, it might ease my concerns.

So guys, it's down to two people Analog or Kontrol. It seems the group trusts Kontrol more so I can go with Analog, but I'm really not sure. They both seem like threats. Maybe you guys are right. maybe it's time to remove the Analog factor.

[sstralkowski]

"A dubious assumption... perhaps you would feel better if I told you I was after the shape-changer tonight?"

My bad, Kontrol. It seems I missed this part. Not saying he wasn't lying, but at least I can see where you made your conclusion.

vote: Analog

[Peers]

That's three...

[sstralkowski]

I guess I'll take over JoH's role in listing the remaining players.
Here's our count

1) theanalogkid
2) Antipathy
3) kontrol
4) Doombot 3.1
5) lensnart
6) JacinB
7) sstralkowski

[sstralkowski]

Doombot 3.1 has hung back in the wings and followed when it was comfortable to do so, maybe kinpin or maybe just playing smart.

Good point. Something to keep an eye on.

[Doombot 3.1]

Some of us are posting from work, which tends to limit how long we can hang out on the realms, at least if we want to continue to make rent payments.

Any ways, none of us are in the clear, gentlemen (and Kingpin and Skrull). Remember, the Kingpin would have appeared as a hero to Jack. Jack may well have gotten a false positive; in other words, somebody Jack thought was a hero might not have been so. (I'm not accusing anybody, just pointing out that we can't take anything for granted at this point.)

From my reading of the wiki (http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Cop)

The most common special role. The Cop can investigate a player each night and find out whether they are on the Scum or Pro-Town side. Depending on the variation, sometimes they can discover the role name as well. Certain roles, such as the Godfather, can be immune to investigation. (emphasis added)

My take is that the cop would get a false positive (or read him as townie). Which is why losing the tracker was a huge blow to the townie side.

[sstralkowski]

Some of us are posting from work, which tends to limit how long we can hang out on the realms, at least if we want to continue to make rent payments.

Any ways, none of us are in the clear, gentlemen (and Kingpin and Skrull). Remember, the Kingpin would have appeared as a hero to Jack. Jack may well have gotten a false positive; in other words, somebody Jack thought was a hero might not have been so. (I'm not accusing anybody, just pointing out that we can't take anything for granted at this point.)

Yeah we know. I already said that when Len was freaking out about not being able to give us the proof we "wanted."

FYI, while you're not accusing anybody, you're simultaneously accusing everybody. Seems fair to me. I did the same thing. Still doesn't prove who the Kingpin and the Skrull are.

[sstralkowski]

Some of us are posting from work, which tends to limit how long we can hang out on the realms, at least if we want to continue to make rent payments.

Any ways, none of us are in the clear, gentlemen (and Kingpin and Skrull). Remember, the Kingpin would have appeared as a hero to Jack. Jack may well have gotten a false positive; in other words, somebody Jack thought was a hero might not have been so. (I'm not accusing anybody, just pointing out that we can't take anything for granted at this point.)

Odd you didn't just complete the vote to lynch Analog. Hmmm.

[Doombot 3.1]

Odd you didn't just complete the vote to lynch Analog. Hmmm.

I think my post above explains my reluctance to jump to conclusions. Jack may have gotten a false positive. Or he may have not. I don't have any idea what happened there. What's the evidence against Analog, again?

[sstralkowski]

Out of curiosity, why would the Kingpin want the skrull dead? It seems the Skrull is doing a better job at getting the heroes killed than he is.

[sstralkowski]

I think my post above explains my reluctance to jump to conclusions. Jack may have gotten a false positive. Or he may have not. I don't have any idea what happened there. What's the evidence against Analog, again?

JoH got an "independent" reading from Analogkid. That means he's not hero aligned. That's all we're going on. It could mean he's the Kingpin, or the Skrull, or really just an innocent bystander. Either way, it's more than we have on anyone else. Basically, just the lesser of two evils.

[sstralkowski]

I think my post above explains my reluctance to jump to conclusions. Jack may have gotten a false positive. Or he may have not. I don't have any idea what happened there. What's the evidence against Analog, again?

Who do you suggest if not Analog?

[Doombot 3.1]

Who do you suggest if not Analog?

I don't suggest anybody. I don't have any of these fancy-schmancy investigative/tracking powers. I do, however, have the common sense to realize that sometimes you need to step back and reexamine your assumptions. If this were a detective novel, we'd be at the point where the detective appears to have run out of leads and decides that it's time to reexamine the evidence (hopefully finding a clue that he overlooked before).

Anyways, thanks for summing up the evidence against Analog. Saves me the trouble of going through who knows how many pages. ;)

VOTE: Theanalogkid

[sstralkowski]

I don't suggest anybody. I don't have any of these fancy-schmancy investigative/tracking powers. I do, however, have the common sense to realize that sometimes you need to step back and reexamine your assumptions. If this were a detective novel, we'd be at the point where the detective appears to have run out of leads and decides that it's time to reexamine the evidence (hopefully finding a clue that he overlooked before).

Anyways, thanks for summing up the evidence against Analog. Saves me the trouble of going through who knows how many pages. ;)

VOTE: Theanalogkid

I know. I've been trying to do that all along. Sometimes the huge amounts of info combined with a lack of new/useful info is frustrating, but we're trying.

No problem.

[Peers]

Annnd there's four.

Day Phase Seven is over!

One man had done very little... at least that the others could see... he had just sat and left well enough alone, letting everyone else sort things out. Of course, that made him a target, and he was quickly surrounded. Swearing, he tried to make an escape, but was caught. In the ensuing fight, his head was put through a computer monitor, doing what a large number of enemies had failed to do... end his life.

theanalogkid is dead. He was Nick Fury, Independent-Aligned Guy Who Was Living Here Before Everyone Showed Up And Wrecked His Safehouse.

theanalogkid, I'd ask you not to post or PM, but I have a feeling it won't be a problem anyway at this point.

We have now entered Night Phase Seven. We will go for 24 hours or until everyone sends me their PMs.

[sstralkowski]

theanalogkid, I'd ask you not to post or PM, but I have a feeling it won't be a problem anyway at this point.

Is everything alright? He's not back in the hospital is he? :(

[Doombot 3.1]

What do you know, analog was telling the truth.

EDIT: I thought analog said he was going to be busy soon, but maybe I'm misremembering. Anyway, I hope there's nothing wrong medically.

[sstralkowski]

Annnd there's four.

Day Phase Seven is over!

One man had done very little... at least that the others could see... he had just sat and left well enough alone, letting everyone else sort things out. Of course, that made him a target, and he was quickly surrounded. Swearing, he tried to make an escape, but was caught. In the ensuing fight, his head was put through a computer monitor, doing what a large number of enemies had failed to do... end his life.

theanalogkid is dead. He was Nick Fury, Independent-Aligned Guy Who Was Living Here Before Everyone Showed Up And Wrecked His Safehouse.

theanalogkid, I'd ask you not to post or PM, but I have a feeling it won't be a problem anyway at this point.

We have now entered Night Phase Seven. We will go for 24 hours or until everyone sends me their PMs.

Well, that didn't go well. I guess he WAS neutral. What a sucky role to have. Sorry bro. Hope everything is going well IRL.

[sstralkowski]

What do you know, analog was telling the truth.

Yeah, now I'm totally lost. At this point it's just going to become a huge circle with everybody shouting "He did it!" Ugh. Let's hope someone gets a lead tonight.

[Doombot 3.1]

I know. I've been trying to do that all along. Sometimes the huge amounts of info combined with a lack of new/useful info is frustrating, but we're trying.

No problem.

No problem, man. I think we're all letting our paranoia get to us.

[theanalogkid]

I was just running errands, guys. I am Ok besides the neck stretch. Have fun and remember when the mafia blocks your lynch votes, I told you so.

[sstralkowski]

I was just running errands, guys. I am Ok besides the neck stretch. Have fun and remember when the mafia blocks your lynch votes, I told you so.


Wow, so the finger gets pointed at Len by a credible player. Hmmmm.

[sstralkowski]

Might we need a unanimous vote to lynch the Kingpin? If so, we'll need to get rid of Antipathy cause he's MIA. Might explain why he hasn't been killed yet.

[sstralkowski]

Hey guys, just thought of this, what if we've got 2 mafia members here now? The lawyer AND the Kingpin. Might explain the MIA Hypnodisk. Good guy protecting the bad guy. That would point the Kingpin finger at Len, but the Hypno finger at someone else. Any thoughts?

[Peers]

Well, that didn't go well. I guess he WAS neutral. What a sucky role to have. Sorry bro. Hope everything is going well IRL.

Actually, he had a pretty good role; but that's for the after-game reveal.

[Iron Ham]

Actually, he had a pretty good role; but that's for the after-game reveal. We oughta have a thread where you post your role message... I think that'd be cool.

[Peers]

We oughta have a thread where you post your role message... I think that'd be cool.

Why use a new thread? When the game's over, I'll be revealing everyone's character and role, and answering any questions people might have about just what the heck happened at some point.

[sstralkowski]

Why use a new thread? When the game's over, I'll be revealing everyone's character and role, and answering any questions people might have about just what the heck happened at some point.

Sounds good to me. My head's spinning at this point.

EDIT: ooc Guys since it's the weekend I'll try and check in every couple hours and all, but no promises.

[lensnart]

Huh? Well I guess we were totally off the mark on that one, it seemed like the best call I guess it wasn't.

Well someone else can decide who to lynch tomorrow because I am totally lost.

[Peers]

Starting with this phase, we're going to ignore time limits until Monday; that way, it won't punish those who can't be on and it means I don't have to promise to stick near the PC every few hours. :)

[sstralkowski]

Starting with this phase, we're going to ignore time limits until Monday; that way, it won't punish those who can't be on and it means I don't have to promise to stick near the PC every few hours. :)

That's cool. Maybe that'll give Antipathy some time to get back.

[sstralkowski]

How we makin out on PM's?

[Peers]

Night 7

Seven days had passed, and now only seven of them remained. A grim sort of routine had settled over the group. The doctor, deprived of her only friend here, followed people randomly, hoping to prevent a tragedy. The Skrull sought to cause havoc... but in this case, was nowhere near the site of tonight's murder. This one was silent, but savage, and the six who remained in the morning began to wonder if they were getting desensitized to their impending doom.

Antipathy is dead. He was G. W. Bridge, Hero-Aligned Ex-Agent of SHIELD and vigilante hunter.

Antipathy, please do not pot in this thread or PM about this game until it is over.

We are now in Day Phase 8. With six people left, four is a majority vote.

[sstralkowski]

Night 7

Seven days had passed, and now only seven of them remained. A grim sort of routine had settled over the group. The doctor, deprived of her only friend here, followed people randomly, hoping to prevent a tragedy. The Skrull sought to cause havoc... but in this case, was nowhere near the site of tonight's murder. This one was silent, but savage, and the six who remained in the morning began to wonder if they were getting desensitized to their impending doom.

Antipathy is dead. He was G. W. Bridge, Hero-Aligned Ex-Agent of SHIELD and vigilante hunter.

Antipathy, please do not pot in this thread or PM about this game until it is over.

We are now in Day Phase 8. With six people left, four is a majority vote.

Bridge, wow. Haven't heard that name in a while. Anyone else not surprised he was offed seeing as he was outed as a hero?

[sstralkowski]

Here's our count

1) kontrol
2) Doombot 3.1
3) lensnart
4) JacinB
5) sstralkowski

Peers, by my running count, there are onyl 5 of us left. We had 7 and then Analog and Anitpathy left us. Am I wrong? If so please give a tally of who's still left.

[sstralkowski]

From Analog's last post, I've got my suspicions about Len, but that will have to wait since he's protected from the lynch by the real lawyer. So basically, it comes down to the skrull, the lawyer, or the doc. 2 are heroes, but one is helping the Kingpin and that's never good. The other is the Skrull who's been messing with us the entire time. So I think if we get rid of either Doombot or Kontrol, we've got a 66% chance of doing away with someone who's not helping us out.

[lensnart]

My gut tells me Kontrol and since my gut has been way off the last two weeks it seems to me like the smart move is probably Doombot.

So how about we vote: [BDoombot 3.1[/B]

[Peers]

Here's our count

1) kontrol
2) Doombot 3.1
3) lensnart
4) JacinB
5) sstralkowski

Peers, by my running count, there are onyl 5 of us left. We had 7 and then Analog and Anitpathy left us. Am I wrong? If so please give a tally of who's still left.

Whoops, you're right. I forgot to mark down analog as dead on my spreadsheet. 5 left, 3 for a majority vote.

[sstralkowski]

My gut tells me Kontrol and since my gut has been way off the last two weeks it seems to me like the smart move is probably Doombot.

So how about we vote: Doombot 3.1

Anyone else want to chime in?

[kontrol]

My instinct's telling me Doombot as well.

Vote: Doombot 3.1

[kontrol]

The way I figure it. If I'm wrong about Doombot. The game is over for the hero side. As the Kingpin can kill and the Skrull switch places, I'm pretty sure if I'm wrong, I'm dead by nightfall anyway.

[Doombot 3.1]

Well, I'll give a go at defending myself without resorting to arguments like, "You voted to lynch me! You must be Kingpin!" :rolleyes:

I'm an indie hero. I have no tracking or investigative powers, so I don't have any leads on who Kingpin may or may not be. Yeah, that means I've been hanging back, but what else can you do when you aren't able to follow people around at night?

Also, in my defense, I cite the following (found on page 47 of this thread):

Hey, I know that we're all lining up to lynch RokkPin, but what's the evidence against him again?

I remember that he was pretty vocal in resisting the first attempt to lynch Dumas, but frankly, a lot of us voted for Jack. I know, as I was one of them, (and I voted for Dumas the next day, after realizing that I had made a mistake). If Rokk is mafia, I don't get why he'd be trying to defend a skrull (unless there's some kind of skrull-mafia alliance? the skrulls have taken over the mafia?).

Now, I am quite willing to believe that Rokk is not a good guy (maybe a skrull?). Indeed, given that Jacin was right about Dumas, I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. But did anyone see him in someone's room or killing DocDoom or something?

As with Dumas, you're just going to have to take my word for it on this one.

I'm willing to do this on the basis of your track record so far, but I hope you're right.

... so do I. ;)

The above exchange occurs on page 47 of this thread, during the night phase. Most of us were preparing to lynch Rokk as a mafia member.

Now, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if I were Kingpin, I wouldn't tell JacinB that I'd help him and vote to lynch a fellow mafia member. While Rokk ultimately died another way, I'd think this demonstrates that I'm not mafia, let alone the Kingpin. And this isn't just me saying, "I'm a hero!" and asking you to take my word for it. All of this is a matter of public record, and I invite anybody who doubts my anti-mafia bona fides to read page 47 of this thread.

I have no idea who the Kingpin is, but I'm pretty sure making voting to lynch heroes without a shred of evidence is going to help him. If you have questions, feel free to post them on this thread. I may not be able to check in very frequently, but I will try to address any legitimate concerns by Monday morning.

Now, as I said, I have no idea who the Kingpin is. I do have suspicions about lensnart, not based on following him around or anything, but because when we were trying to decide whether to lynch him or analog, the answers he gave were totally ridiculous. Does anyone believe any of the answers he gave in that debate? If anybody is hiding something, it's lensnart.

Therefore, I will

VOTE lensnart

[sstralkowski]

Well, I'll give a go at defending myself without resorting to arguments like, "You voted to lynch me! You must be Kingpin!" :rolleyes:

I'm an indie hero. I have no tracking or investigative powers, so I don't have any leads on who Kingpin may or may not be. Yeah, that means I've been hanging back, but what else can you do when you aren't able to follow people around at night?

Also, in my defense, I cite the following (found on page 47 of this thread):

The above exchange occurs on page 47 of this thread, during the night phase. Most of us were preparing to lynch Rokk as a mafia member.

Now, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if I were Kingpin, I wouldn't tell JacinB that I'd help him and vote to lynch a fellow mafia member. While Rokk ultimately died another way, I'd think this demonstrates that I'm not mafia, let alone the Kingpin. And this isn't just me saying, "I'm a hero!" and asking you to take my word for it. All of this is a matter of public record, and I invite anybody who doubts my anti-mafia bona fides to read page 47 of this thread.

I have no idea who the Kingpin is, but I'm pretty sure making voting to lynch heroes without a shred of evidence is going to help him. If you have questions, feel free to post them on this thread. I may not be able to check in very frequently, but I will try to address any legitimate concerns by Monday morning.

Now, as I said, I have no idea who the Kingpin is. I do have suspicions about lensnart, not based on following him around or anything, but because when we were trying to decide whether to lynch him or analog, the answers he gave were totally ridiculous. Does anyone believe any of the answers he gave in that debate? If anybody is hiding something, it's lensnart.

Therefore, I will

VOTE lensnart

Well, I can honestly say that I don't quite trust Len either given Analog's last words. That said, the last time we tried to lynch him it didn't work. Maybe it needs to be unanimous. Maybe not. If we could all agree to go after him I doubt it could hurt. I mean the phases are untimed now anyway. If it didn't work, we could always just go back on it and pick a new target. There's no rush. I'll wait to see what my boy Jacin thinks before making any decisions. Kontrol, would you be up for trying that idea just to see what happens?

EDIT: I stink at typing. Fixed spelling mistakes.

[kontrol]

Sure, for now

change vote : abstain for now

[Peers]

Voting:

Lensnart (1) -- Doombot
Doombot (1) -- lensnart
Abstain (1) -- kontrol

With five players, 3 is a majority. The day phase will continue until a lynch or Monday sometime, whichever comes first.

[sstralkowski]

Voting:

Lensnart (1) -- Doombot
Doombot (1) -- lensnart
Abstain (1) -- kontrol

With five players, 3 is a majority. The day phase will continue until a lynch or Monday sometime, whichever comes first.

Waiting on Jacin here.

[kontrol]

The game isn't over because there are at least 1 of each faction left.

Leaving two to be a part of another faction.

So we're looking at the following combinations

Heroes, Mafia, Skrull
3,1,1
2,2,1
2,1,2
1,2,2
1,3,1
1,1,3

A couple things would help clarify things for me.

What did everybody do on the second day. And what did everybody do last night?

I saw Antipathy the second night. Last night would be a lot clearer for me if I knew what everybody did.

[sstralkowski]

The game isn't over because there are at least 1 of each faction left.

Leaving two to be a part of another faction.

So we're looking at the following combinations

Heroes, Mafia, Skrull
3,1,1
2,2,1
2,1,2
1,2,2
1,3,1
1,1,3

A couple things would help clarify things for me.

What did everybody do on the second day. And what did everybody do last night?

I saw Antipathy the second night. Last night would be a lot clearer for me if I knew what everybody did.

Unfortunately, you're probably not going to get any response on that one. The Kingpin isn't going to come out and say, "I killed Antipathy last night." The Skrull isn't going to say, "I impersonated so-and-so." And the remaining heroes won't want to reveal their jobs for fear that they'll be the next one murdered.

I really wish Jacin would show up and give us his 2 cents. I'm kinda lost without my wingman.

[lensnart]

oh Doombot,

you've been lyin when you outta be truthin.

[sstralkowski]

Jacin hasn't been on since last Friday. Anyone know if he's ok?

[Doombot 3.1]

oh Doombot,

you've been lyin when you outta be truthin.

Seriously, len, if you have any evidence against me, then post it. You clearly do not, because if you did, it would be up already.

I have already posted my defense, and if you bothered to read my post, you would see that I offered to address any legitimate concerns that people had. Again, I gather you have no legitimate concerns, or else you would have posted them.

I also offered real evidence as to my anti-mafia bona fides. Indeed, I invite anyone who doubts my anti-mafia bona fides to read page 47 of this thread for themselves. You, on the other hand, have posted nothing but absurd accusations without offering anything to back them up. And it is quite obvious that you have nothing to back them up, or you'd have posted them already.

You offer nothing but unsubstantiated and false accusations. After the ridiculous answers you gave when we were debating whether to lynch you or analog, (and, again, did anyone believe anything len said in that debate?) you wonder why I'm more than a little suspicious of you. :rolleyes:

Also, I hope Jacin's ok. I'd guess he was just out for the weekend or something like that, but certainly, it'd be quite helpful to get his take on things.

[sstralkowski]

Also, I hope Jacin's ok. I'd guess he was just out for the weekend or something like that, but certainly, it'd be quite helpful to get his take on things.

I'm told by a reliable source that he's just not a weekender. He should be back today. I just hope Peers won't close the day phase with 20% of our people being missing.

[Peers]

The weekend is over; day phase will end with a majority vote or at, say, 23:59 tonight board time.

[kontrol]

Unfortunately, you're probably not going to get any response on that one. The Kingpin isn't going to come out and say, "I killed Antipathy last night." The Skrull isn't going to say, "I impersonated so-and-so." And the remaining heroes won't want to reveal their jobs for fear that they'll be the next one murdered.

I really wish Jacin would show up and give us his 2 cents. I'm kinda lost without my wingman.
I don't want to know if you killed Antipathy last night. I want to know what you said you did.

With at least 2 heros still alive, now's the time to probably put the cards on the table. If a hero dies during lynching the games over for the hero side. If there are 3 heroes, we can eliminate the Skrull then the Mafia. With the loss of one casualty during the night.


I may be willing to be that casualty, since it's possible that Rokk Krinn's last act. The one that hypnotized somebody, could've been me and I not know about it. But if I'm putting myself on the line. People better come up with some convincing stories for what they did last night.

[JacinB]

I can't really do anything at night. I was the only one on the New Avengers to not get a cool 'go-out-and-mess-with-someone' night power. I can't go out and see what people are doing. I can't night-kill people. I can't screw with people's targetting.

That said, I've really got nothing to contribute right now.

Lensnart still smells funny to me. It very well could be that he's She-Hulk and his power is that he can delay people from lynching him.

But, that said, the story of what his power does still doesn't add up in my mind. And, if I were giving powers to the Kingpin, I'd expect him to be 'immune to prosecution' to some degree, too.

I don't have anything on any of you at this point, really. I know who I am. The rest of you? Not so much.

Doombot's had the most convincing argument for innocence that I've seen this round, and lensnart's really not offered much defense. So, until I see something to convince me otherwise ...

Vote: lensnart.

[JacinB]

With at least 2 heros still alive, now's the time to probably put the cards on the table. If a hero dies during lynching the games over for the hero side. If there are 3 heroes, we can eliminate the Skrull then the Mafia. With the loss of one casualty during the night.
Alright, here it is.

Everyone, right now, post who you are and what your powers are. If you don't post, you're suspect and you go to the top of my 'to be lynched' list.

I'm Spider-Man. My powers are my spider-senses that alert me to danger. That's how I've avoided at least two seperate attacks (night 1 and night 3).

[Peers]

And here is where the paranoia -really- sets in... early in the game, you could afford to make mistakes... now? A mistake can change the outcome of the game...

How many heroes? How many villains? How many Skrulls? Only I know for sure...

[Doombot 3.1]

I'm the Thing. Indie hero. No tracking/investigative powers, just hard to kill.

[kontrol]

Cecilia Reyes, Doctor.

[JacinB]

Len has claimed, previously, to be She-Hulk: Lawyer. Any ideas on sstralkowski?

[sstralkowski]

Songbird. Former villain looking to make amends. I can cancel the powers of others.

Oh and VOTE: Lensnart

Kontrol, you in? We need a unanimous vote if my theory is correct.

[Peers]

Lensnart (3) -- Doombot, sstralk, JacinB
Doombot (1) -- lensnart
Abstain (1) -- kontrol

While a majority vote had been reached, the day phase has not yet ended. Mae of this what you will.

[kontrol]

Vote -Lensnart

[sstralkowski]

Come one Peers! I want to know if my theory worked!!

(not really angry, just excited)

[Peers]

The day phase is over!

It had worked once before. A brilliant, logical, and passionate legal defense had saved a life previously... but today, it would not succeed in it's goal, as more people jumped on the bandwagon. After all, when everyone is against you, you can't change their minds. There needs to be some modicum of doubt to prey upon. And in this case, doubt had been drop-punted out the window by paranoia. As had become custom, lensnart was dealt with, the image inducer ripped away, and the body watched for six minutes.

Regrettably, the body did not change. Sad, really... perhaps if the power dampeners didn't prevent her from being green in the first place, she would have survived.

lensnart is dead. He was She-Hulk, Hero-Aligned Attorney For The Defense

lensnart, pelase do not post/PM about this game until it is over... which shouldn't be very long.

We have now entered the night phase. You have 24 hours to PM me your targets for the night. At this point, any phase could be the final phase of the game.

[kontrol]

oh well, it's over now.

Congrats on a well played game Doom and stral.

[sstralkowski]

The day phase is over!

It had worked once before. A brilliant, logical, and passionate legal defense had saved a life previously... but today, it would not succeed in it's goal, as more people jumped on the bandwagon. After all, when everyone is against you, you can't change their minds. There needs to be some modicum of doubt to prey upon. And in this case, doubt had been drop-punted out the window by paranoia. As had become custom, lensnart was dealt with, the image inducer ripped away, and the body watched for six minutes.

Regrettably, the body did not change. Sad, really... perhaps if the power dampeners didn't prevent her from being green in the first place, she would have survived.

lensnart is dead. He was She-Hulk, Hero-Aligned Attorney For The Defense

lensnart, pelase do not post/PM about this game until it is over... which shouldn't be very long.

We have now entered the night phase. You have 24 hours to PM me your targets for the night. At this point, any phase could be the final phase of the game.

Ahh ####. Seeing as all of us had our suspicions, who'd have known? I guess we're really screwed now.

[sstralkowski]

oh well, it's over now.

Congrats on a well played game Doom and stral.


What did I do???

[JacinB]

Alright, well, that's what I get for trusting my gut, apparently. The next witch hunt will need to be lead by someone else.

Now if my gut is correct, I'll get lynched tomorrow as the mafia will kill the last of the heroes tonight and they'll win the game.

[JacinB]

What did I do???
I think he's calling you Mafia.

[sstralkowski]

I think he's calling you Mafia.

Not sure how to respond to that. I guess we'll soon find out.

[kontrol]

Yeah, I'm dead tonight, no doubt about it.


Mafia or skrull it makes no difference.

[kontrol]

PM sent, let's get this show on the road.

[sstralkowski]

PM sent, let's get this show on the road.

Agreed....

[sstralkowski]

You know what? I should just shut up and stop being impatient. Peers is doing this in his spare time for us.

[Peers]

Hey, some of us have day jobs, y'know. :)

Night Eight

It was, again, a familiar set-up. The life-taker and the life-saver, standing in a room, facing two people who were identical.

"He's the Skrull!"
"No, he's the Skrull!"

The life-taker and the life-giver glanced at each other. "Which one do you think is the Skrull? 'cause you were so wrong last time, I'm going to go with the opposite of your gut feeling tonight."

"My 'gut feeling', as you so eloquently put it, does not matter."

"Because you want either one of them dead?"

"Well, yes. But not tonight."

With that, the killer clamped a massive hand on the doctor's face and drove her head into the wall. Simple, crude, but effective. The two others in the room decided to get the heck out of there and split off in different directions, leaving the identification of the body until morning.

kontrol is dead. He was Ceclia Reyes, Hero-Aligned Ex-X-Man and Medical Doctor

No talking about the game, yadda yadda, won't be long now.

We are now in Day 9. With three people remaining, two is a majority vote. This will be the last lynch phase of the game (unless a- you guys fail to lynch someone and b- nobody dies on the next night phase).

[sstralkowski]

Hey, some of us have day jobs, y'know. :)


I know man. There's absolutely nothign wrong with your speed. I'm just high strung the past week or two. Not your fault at all. Sorry for beiong so obnoxious. :disappoin

You'll notice I edited my post Before yours.:disappoin

[sstralkowski]

Kill the Kingpin!!!! Contrary to popular belief, I'm not a bad guy. ;)

Vote: Doombot

[Doombot 3.1]

JacinB:

I am Kingpin. sstralkowski is the skrull.

Basically, I am appealing to you for your vote. Sure, I may be a corrupt mafia crimelord, but he's an alien! :p

At this point, the heroes have lost, but they can determine who wins, and you don't want Earth to be conquered by the Skrulls, do you?

VOTE: sstralkowski

[sstralkowski]

JacinB:

I am Kingpin. sstralkowski is the skrull.

Basically, I am appealing to you for your vote. Sure, I may be a corrupt mafia crimelord, but he's an alien! :p

At this point, the heroes have lost, but they can determine who wins, and you don't want Earth to be conquered by the Skrulls, do you?

VOTE: sstralkowski

Dude, if I had the power to make more Skrulls, I wouldn't be on the losing end. :devious: As it is, Dumas left me with a pair of 2's in this li'l game of poker. I deserve the tie for first by making lemonade out of Skrulls.

[Peers]

*mod idly considers mod-killing sstralkowski for editing a post in the thread when he said "no editing your posts in this thread".... nah, no point in it now...*

[sstralkowski]

*mod idly considers mod-killing sstralkowski for editing a post in the thread when he said "no editing your posts in this thread".... nah, no point in it now...*

Does it count if it wasn't game related? Would I still deserve mod-killing for going off topic? The world may never know.

[Doombot 3.1]

At this point, there's 1 hero (Jacin), the Kingpin (me), and the Skrull (sstralkowski).

I suppose that I should explain how and when I knew sstralkowski is the skrull. I imagine that he really was Songbird when the game started, but when Dumas got a reprieve, he used that opportunity to pick a victim to turn into a skrull--sstralkowski.

I first targeted sstralkowski thinking that he was actually part of JacinB's team. This was the night that Rokk (Ringmaster) was killed. In retrospect, I should have realized that sstralkowski was the Skrull then, but I didn't. Instead, I thought that Rokk being killed was caused by a hero who messed with my targeting.

The second time I targeted sstralkowski was, of course, on the night JoH2005 got killed. At the time, I thought that he might have been the doctor. While getting JoH2005 out of the way was high on my list of priorities, it was clear that he was being protected by the doctor, so I sought to get rid of the doc first.

Obviously, this was incorrect, as sstralkowski used his Skrull ability to switch places with JoH2005. (Dammit, Jim, I'm a crimelord, not a detective! :laugh: ) Oddly enough, that helped me, as JoH2005 (the cop) was out of the way, and I knew who the Skrull was, even if I couldn't act on it, at least, not without giving away anything.

At any rate, there is no point in keeping my identity as Kingpin secret anymore. JacinB cannot win, and I cannot win without Jacin's vote, so Jacin, I ask for your vote. Whatever you decide, that's cool. Both you and sstralkowski have played well, and for an exercise in paranoia, this has been pretty fun. :p

[Doombot 3.1]

Dude, if I had the power to make more Skrulls, I wouldn't be on the losing end. :devious: As it is, Dumas left me with a pair of 2's in this li'l game of poker. I deserve the tie for first by making lemonade out of Skrulls.

Hey, you Skrull punks took out our Roleblocker (JackAssterton) on the second night. And then Rokk got himself killed fairly early in the game, basically because he was just too vocal in defending Dumas (the other Skrull). Don't complain to me about the hand you were dealt. If anything, the mafia deserves the win because the Skrulls are whiny! :laugh:

[sstralkowski]

At this point, there's 1 hero (Jacin), the Kingpin (me), and the Skrull (sstralkowski).

I suppose that I should explain how and when I knew sstralkowski is the skrull. I imagine that he really was Songbird when the game started, but when Dumas got a reprieve, he used that opportunity to pick a victim to turn into a skrull--sstralkowski.

I first targeted sstralkowski thinking that he was actually part of JacinB's team. This was the night that Rokk (Ringmaster) was killed. In retrospect, I should have realized that sstralkowski was the Skrull then, but I didn't. Instead, I thought that Rokk being killed was caused by a hero who messed with my targeting.

The second time I targeted sstralkowski was, of course, on the night JoH2005 got killed. At the time, I thought that he might have been the doctor. While getting JoH2005 out of the way was high on my list of priorities, it was clear that he was being protected by the doctor, so I sought to get rid of the doc first.

Obviously, this was incorrect, as sstralkowski used his Skrull ability to switch places with JoH2005. (Dammit, Jim, I'm a crimelord, not a detective! :laugh: ) Oddly enough, that helped me, as JoH2005 (the cop) was out of the way, and I knew who the Skrull was, even if I couldn't act on it, at least, not without giving away anything.

At any rate, there is no point in keeping my identity as Kingpin secret anymore. JacinB cannot win, and I cannot win without Jacin's vote, so Jacin, I ask for your vote. Whatever you decide, that's cool. Both you and sstralkowski have played well, and for an exercise in paranoia, this has been pretty fun. :p

Well unlike you, I only have the ability to pretend to be someone. If you target me, you've got a 50/50 shot at killing the person I'm pretending to be. I knew Rokk was mafia so I pretended to be him and you killed him not me. I deduced that if I pretend to be JoH, who I knew was the cop not the doc (EDIT: Yeah I now realize that you thought I was the doc, not him), then the doc might protect me instead. I also figured that might get the cop off my case at the same time. Well it worked. Not once but twice. Not bad for my first time playing this game.

Way I see it, Jacin can either come in third place by himself or tie for first. Seems simple to me.

[sstralkowski]

Hey, you Skrull punks took out our Roleblocker (JackAssterton) on the second night. And then Rokk got himself killed fairly early in the game, basically because he was just too vocal in defending Dumas (the other Skrull). Don't complain to me about the hand you were dealt. If anything, the mafia deserves the win because the Skrulls are whiny! :laugh:


HA! I lynched Dumas to maintain everyone's trust.

[sstralkowski]

You know what Jacin, just go with your gut. :laugh:

[Doombot 3.1]

HA! I lynched Dumas to maintain everyone's trust.

I realized that, but far too late to do anything about it. I said I'd vote to lynch Rokk, once it became clear that he was compromised, for the same reason.

Great minds think alike, I guess. ;)

[sstralkowski]

I realized that, but far too late to do anything about it. I said I'd vote to lynch Rokk, once it became clear that he was compromised, for the same reason.

Great minds think alike, I guess. ;)

Agreed! :laugh:

[sstralkowski]

For the record, Dumas didn't actually target me, someone made his choice random and I think JoH actually chose the number that lead to me being replaced. So basically, Dumas ran into a room full of us, saw me first and handed me a hand grenade with the pin pulled saying, "Here, hold this." as he was grabbed and strung up by the group.

EDIT: From what he said later, I think he targetted Jacin. Really, there wasn't enough time to exchange notes what with me trying not to get him lynched. Sadly, it was like trying to deflect a speeding locomotive with a trashcan lid.

[Thawmus]

I so want to play when this one is over. :)

[JacinB]

Vote: Doombot 3.1

[sstralkowski]

Vote: Doombot 3.1


Booya Grandma!!!

[JacinB]

My game plan says I win when the mafia is gone. I'm gonna go with that.

[Doombot 3.1]

Vote: Doombot 3.1

Well played. You too, sstralkowski.

[sstralkowski]

Well played. You too, sstralkowski.

Thanks bro. For the record, you had me stumped right up to the end.

[JacinB]

Just out of curiosity, what are the Skrull-ian win conditions?

[sstralkowski]

My game plan says I win when the mafia is gone. I'm gonna go with that.

So during the night phase, can I rpetend to be you? :rolleyes:

[sstralkowski]

Just out of curiosity, what are the Skrull-ian win conditions?


Only Skrulls remain. I was hosed from the beginning.

[Doombot 3.1]

My game plan says I win when the mafia is gone. I'm gonna go with that.

Ah, that explains it. I had thought that the heroes won only when both the mafia and skrulls were gone.

[JacinB]

So during the night phase, can I rpetend to be you? :rolleyes:
Either way, I stalemate with whomever I didn't vote for.

If I'd left Kingpin, he could try to kill me at night and fail. If I left you, you could pretend to be me. Either way, you'd both need my vote to kill me during the day and, obviously, you weren't going to get it.

Kingpin could've won by convincing you to vote for me and then killing you come nightfall.

You ... well, you couldn't have won once we took out Dumas.

[JacinB]

That was a really good game, guys.

Once my tracker and target-changer were gone, I was completely in the dark except for what people posted in the thread, and you guys -- or, at least sstralkowski -- had me convinced that you were both working toward the same goal I was.

[kontrol]

Can the ghost talk yet?

[JacinB]

I don't think Peers has made it official, yet. ;)

[Peers]

Day 9 Results

Three men clustered around a dimly-lit table. For over a week, they had been put through hell. The masks had come off, the image inducers turned off, the cards were all on the table. Finally, everything came down to one man's decision.

"This man is a criminal, a murderer! I have killed nobody... he is the one with blood on his hands!"

"What is wrong with you, Parker? This... thing is an alien invader! It's kind was sent here to replace us! Together... you and I... we can kill it. That's what you heroes do, isn't it? Save the world?"

"He seeks only to save himself! I am one Skrull... I cannot take over the planet! My commander is dead, I only wish to live! And this man, how many has he killed? Directly, or otherwise?"

Peter Parker closed his eyes. He was being asked to choose between two evils, two devils. And he could only stop one, only prevent one group of future victims... the hero in him wanted to try to stop them both, but without his strength, his speed, that wasn't an option. It came down to one simple thing.

"This is for May Parker."

He did not have the proportional speed or strength of a spider here... but he had the speed and strength of a man who has fought crime for his entire adult life, who spent every day swinging, punching, leaping, running.

Wilson Fisk didn't have a chance.

When the dust settled, Parker looked around... alone. The Skrull had run off. To where, it didn't matter. It was time to drag himself out of this pit of festering evil and rotting corpses.

The world was going to need heroes now more than ever.

End of Volume One.

The game is over; we have a tie! Partial victory to the Skrulls and partial victory to the Heroes!

(And really, the only way for this not to have been a draw was for sstralkowski and Doombot to have teamed up to lynch JacinB, and then Doombot to kill sstralkowski. Anything else would have left us with a no-lynches-possible, no-night-kills-possible situation.)

Stay tuned for the 'big reveal'... who played who, with what powers, and perhaps most importantly... Who Killed Tony Stark?

[Peers]

And now, as promised, the big reveal.

New Avengers

DocDoom187: Wolverine. Each night, he could follow someone to see who they targetted, but not what they did. Or, he could kill someone... but without a healing factor, the blood coming form his claw-punctures would 'out' him to everyone else.

JacinB: Spider-Man. His spider-senses still function, barely, allowing him to avoid people who target him for evil purposes at night.

Iron Ham: Spider-Woman. She could target someone and their target for the night would then be randomly picked. She also thought that if she targetted a non-Hero, she would be converted to their side... but that was just a side-effect of her "I was brainwashed by Hydra" angst.

[Peers]

Heroes

lensnart: She-Hulk. Each night, she could pick someone to write up a defense for; the next day, it would take a 2/3s majority to lynch them instead of a 1/2 majority.

antipathy: G.W.Bridge. With a personal vendetta to settle, Bridge would pick someone each night to find out if they were The Punisher or not. If he revealed The Punisher, and then got him killed before he himself died, he would win no matter what else happened.

sstrakowski: Songbird. Drawing on her skills as a former villain and Thunderbolt, she would block someone from performing their role at night. Was turned into a Skrull, and then became the last surviving Skrull, which gave her the power to shapechange... pick a target. Anyone targetting you has a 50-50 chance of hitting the person you're copying. Of course, anyone targetting them has a 50-50 shot at targetting you instead.

kontrol: Cecilia Reyes. She could follow someone each night and save their life if they died.

Jackofhearts2005: The Falcon. Using his naturally keen eyesight and training, he could investigate someone each night to learn which side they were on.

KitsuShel: Winter Soldier. After a lifetime of war and killing, Bucky was willing to do whatever it took to sort things out here. KitsuShel could target someone to kill every night, but was Skrulled before getting a chance to do so. This probably doubled the length of the game.

[Peers]

Villains

Doombot 3.1: The Kingpin. As the Don, he decided who got hit, and who did the hitting. He also showed up as innocent if investigated... as long as nobody in his mafia had been killed.

Rokk_Krin: The Ringmaster. Has the ability to target someone and hypnotize them into voting for a specific person the next day; only got to use this power once because he was the chosen hitman for the mob.

JackAssterson: Jack O'Lantern. Much like Songbird, he had the ability to block people's roles at night. This power -almost- got Spider-Man killed the first night, but he was blocked by Songbird and, if he hadn't been blocked, would have been misdirected by Spider-Woman. Amazing coincidence that had me laughing.

Skrull

St-Dumas: Kt'rail, generic Skrull infiltrator. He could kill at night and replaced those killed with Skrulls, and would win when everyone still alive was a Skrull. But he got caught onto fairly early, leaving only one Skrull left...

[JackAssterson]

This has SUCH a Survivor Season 1 flavor.

I'd been trying to kill JacinB since almost before the game started and he's one of the two remaining players.

More lives than a cat, he.

[Peers]

Independent

theanalogkid: Nick Fury. Nick was a Survivor; he didn't care who won as long as he was still alive when someone won. This meant that if the Heroes wiped out the Villains, or vice-versa, or the Skrulls took over... it didn't matter, he'd win too.

BigSoph: The Punisher. The Punisher had two powers. One, he could decide to go kill someone. Two, if he didn't go kill someone, anyone targetting him (except for G.W.Bridge) would be killed in self-defense.


Oh, and the big question... who killed Iron Man? It wasn't the villains or the Skrulls... The Punisher finally went off his rocker and blew up Tony, who he viewed as responsible for hundreds, if not thousands, of crimes during Civil War and the aftermath.

Signups for Volume Two will begin sometime tomorrow and run through Friday.

[JacinB]

I'm in for another go 'round.

[JackAssterson]

As am I, natch. Hope I'd last longer.

[JacinB]

BigSoph: The Punisher. The Punisher had two powers. One, he could decide to go kill someone. Two, if he didn't go kill someone, anyone targetting him (except for G.W.Bridge) would be killed in self-defense.
That definitely explains why it was so hard to talk him into taking out Dumas.

[Doombot 3.1]

Count me in for Vol. 2 as well.

[kontrol]

Damn, Punisher was brutal. I'm surprised nobody got killed targeting him at night. But I guess nobody targeted him then.

Definitely got to do this again.

Count me in for the next sign-up.


I deduced Doombot was Kingpin far too late. I suspected for a few phases but was caught up trying to keep the Cop (Jack) alive once he outed himself. The Skrull (stral) really screwed that up. I couldn't figure out between the two (stral) and (len) who was the Skrull. I went with the majority and well, you all saw what happened.

[JackAssterson]

The game is done, we had our fun
Songs sung, and played the fiddle
Know this: no hogwash passed Jack's lips
Truth told in form of riddle.

[JacinB]

... who played the fiddle? I'd've voted to lynch him, had I known.

[KitsuShel]

That was awesome! I chose not kill anyone on the first night. I should have at least taken someone out ebfore I got skrullified.

:laugh:

[Peers]

So, now that it's all over and done with... I have to say, some nights I was laughing my arse off at how people were targetting the same person. Or how someone would pick a target at a guess and manage to ruin someone else's obviously well-laid-out plan. For people who hadn't played before, you guys did great.

My apologies to those who got killed early... it sucks, but if you don't die early, the game never ends.

And I've decided on the storyline for the next game.

"The Kingpin is dead. The director of SHIELD is dead. The Punisher is dead.

There is an unprecedented opportunity for the underworld, and super-villains in particular, to carve out a new empire for themselves. With the hero community reeling from the sudden loss of several of their most well-known members, a gathering of super-villains is set. Pecking orders will be established, new alliances formed, and a new super-powered criminal empire will wise.

But there are still heroes out there, and they're crashing the party..."

[JackAssterson]

... who played the fiddle? I'd've voted to lynch him, had I known.

You'd have found out if you'd solved the riddle. Nyah. :p

[JacinB]

You'd have found out if you'd solved the riddle. Nyah. :p
Does this look like a bat on my chest? I could've sworn it was a spider.

[kontrol]

A power vacuum, I like it.

[vicious x]

So, now that it's all over and done with... I have to say, some nights I was laughing my arse off at how people were targetting the same person. Or how someone would pick a target at a guess and manage to ruin someone else's obviously well-laid-out plan. For people who hadn't played before, you guys did great.

My apologies to those who got killed early... it sucks, but if you don't die early, the game never ends.

And I've decided on the storyline for the next game.

"The Kingpin is dead. The director of SHIELD is dead. The Punisher is dead.

There is an unprecedented opportunity for the underworld, and super-villains in particular, to carve out a new empire for themselves. With the hero community reeling from the sudden loss of several of their most well-known members, a gathering of super-villains is set. Pecking orders will be established, new alliances formed, and a new super-powered criminal empire will wise.

But there are still heroes out there, and they're crashing the party..."

Can I join??? :)

[sstralkowski]

I'm going to sit back and watch the next round to see how it pans out. It was VERY stressful for me being so paranoid all the time. That and noone would trust me as far as they could throw me. I'd be lynched on day 1 just for being confusing.

[kontrol]

I'm going to sit back and watch the next round to see how it pans out. It was VERY stressful for me being so paranoid all the time. That and noone would trust me as far as they could throw me. I'd be lynched on day 1 just for being confusing.
Considering no one should actually trust you once you were replaced...That's not surprising :)

[sstralkowski]

Considering no one should actually trust you once you were replaced...That's not surprising :)

Maybe I'd be assigned the master Skrull role the next time around. You know, promotions for good work and all. ;)

[JackAssterson]

Does this look like a bat on my chest? I could've sworn it was a spider.

I was so sure we had you that first night. I even felt a little sad that you'd be leaving so soon.

Oh, the irony.

[sstralkowski]

I was so sure we had you that first night. I even felt a little sad that you'd be leaving so soon.

Oh, the irony.

Yeah, then you got dogpiled. :laugh: I told you I was keeping an eye on you.

[JackAssterson]

Yeah, then you got dogpiled. :laugh: I told you I was keeping an eye on you.

You ended up working for my side anyway, greenie. (one of 'em, anyway)

SKRULL HIGH FIVE!

[Rokk_Krinn]

I suggest a different power than hypnotism for someone next game - as one-sided as these lynchings are it doesn't do much (or at least let it be PM'd to you during the day when the hypnotizer sees which people are being voted on so it's not just some random vote he creates). You guys all working the mob mentality. :)

Oh, by the way, in regards to "The Rokkpin"...may I just say:

JacinB was WRONG! :cheeky:

[Peers]

I suggest a different power than hypnotism for someone next game - as one-sided as these lynchings are it doesn't do much (or at least let it be PM'd to you during the day when the hypnotizer sees which people are being voted on so it's not just some random vote he creates). You guys all working the mob mentality. :)

Oh, by the way, in regards to "The Rokkpin"...may I just say:

JacinB was WRONG! :cheeky:

True. The power sucks in the begining.

But if you had survived to the end, with only a few people left?

I may alter it somewhat... it's definately a "sucks in early game, killer in later game" power, which is why I gave it to someone in a group, so they'd have protection early on... maybe it won't be included, we'll see how many people sign up for the next one...

[JacinB]

Oh, by the way, in regards to "The Rokkpin"...may I just say:

JacinB was WRONG! :cheeky:
Meh. Still got him eventually. Still got you, and you were in the mafia. Still 'co-won' the game.

:p

[JackAssterson]

BTW, Doombot, nice cover identity. You are indeed, the Thingpin.

:grin:

[Iron Ham]

I'm SO in for the next round.

[DocDoom187]

Yea, I'd like to get in too.

[sstralkowski]

True. The power sucks in the begining.

But if you had survived to the end, with only a few people left?

I may alter it somewhat... it's definately a "sucks in early game, killer in later game" power, which is why I gave it to someone in a group, so they'd have protection early on... maybe it won't be included, we'll see how many people sign up for the next one...

If you're short on people, let me know. I can fill in if needed. After my embarrassing display of impatience, though, I can't see why you'd want me there. Still, I had a blast and owe you one.

[sstralkowski]

I suggest a different power than hypnotism for someone next game - as one-sided as these lynchings are it doesn't do much (or at least let it be PM'd to you during the day when the hypnotizer sees which people are being voted on so it's not just some random vote he creates). You guys all working the mob mentality. :)

Oh, by the way, in regards to "The Rokkpin"...may I just say:

JacinB was WRONG! :cheeky:


HAHA! You're just jealous that some of us naturally have a more powerful ability to sway others than your forced hypnodisc thingy. ;)

[sstralkowski]

I was so sure we had you that first night. I even felt a little sad that you'd be leaving so soon.

Oh, the irony.

You know what? I actually felt VERY guilty for targetting JoH when he died. I kenw it had to be done, but he was such a huge help. I just couldn't risk anyone finding out I was the Skrull. Seriously though, I felt like carp...over a game. Like I stabbed a real friend in the back. See how this game got to me? :nervous:

[theanalogkid]

I would like to play again. This was a lot of fun.

[lensnart]

I'm in for round two, this was a blast.

[theanalogkid]

And as stated, I had no power but voting. Here's hoping that I can be someone like that again.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Still 'co-won' the game.

:p

Mutual nuclear destruction is a co-win too but I don't see many people who endorse it. ;)

[Jackofhearts2005]

Damn, Punisher was brutal. I'm surprised nobody got killed targeting him at night. But I guess nobody targeted him then.

I did, on the second night. I got luuuuucky.

It also hurt to see you guys lynch Len. I was thinking with Antipathy dead, and len and Jacin confirmed heroes (I couldn't see Len's power applying to any villain and the other NAvengers would have said something if Jacin had been pulling our leg), that they could team up with ssta to lynch either Kontrol or Doombot.

Kontrol would have then revealed his role as the Doc, and the mafia man would have been lynched. Then worst comes to worst, Jacin and Len lynch Kontrol and Ssta, leading to a win.

I guess I just trusted Len more than ya'll. Then again, I trusted Ssta more than ya'll after targetting him on the first night.

Edit: Oh, and count me in for the next game. This was a lot of fun. I'd rep Peers again if I could.

[Jackofhearts2005]

You know what? I actually felt VERY guilty for targetting JoH when he died. I kenw it had to be done, but he was such a huge help. I just couldn't risk anyone finding out I was the Skrull. Seriously though, I felt like carp...over a game. Like I stabbed a real friend in the back. See how this game got to me? :nervous:
I was so backing you from the begining too. :p

Things like voting for Dumas when I didn't know he was a skrull and trying to convince people just to vote for nobody since we didn't know enough on day 2? That was done to save YOU! I knew you were a hero and were out of your room, so I figured you were the Doc, after I found out the tracker and roleswitcher were avengers.

I didn't fully appreciate the last skrull's 50 50 switch power until my "death." I didn't know it was 50 50, and I was thinking to myself "Well carp. Half my investigations could be a bunch of bull."

[sstralkowski]

I was so backing you from the begining too. :p

Things like voting for Dumas when I didn't know he was a skrull and trying to convince people just to vote for nobody since we didn't know enough on day 2? That was done to save YOU! I knew you were a hero and were out of your room, so I figured you were the Doc, after I found out the tracker and roleswitcher were avengers.

In my defense, on day 2, I was still a hero. I was just so overwhelmed with the complexity of the game that I was all over the place. Knowing now that your target could yield a fake result, would you have trusted me from the beginning even though I was a hero?

I didn't fully appreciate the last skrull's 50 50 switch power until my "death." I didn't know it was 50 50, and I was thinking to myself "Well carp. Half my investigations could be a bunch of bull."

Yeah, it's a cool passive power. It can't actively kill anyone, but it can mess up some pretty well laid plans. Also, it only activated when myself or my target were targetted for death. You still would have gotten accurate readings on everyone but the Kingpin if I'm correct. I think the situation with the doc was very unique. You don't know how many PM's Peers and I exchanged back and forth as I asked question after question to clarify how that whole exchange would work.

[Antipathy]

I wasn't exactly MIA for most of the game. I was online reading posts, but my character GW Bridge didn't care which side won and which side lost. All he cared about was finding the Punisher and getting him killed. In order to find out who the Punisher was I had to essentially pick people at random and hope for the best. Therefore posting wouldn't really help much. Unfortunately he was killed, then I had no computer for a couple days, then I was killed. :(

Targets:

Night 1: Kontrol, found her earring and bra
Night 2: Didn't save PM
Night 3: Doombot 3.1
Night 4: sstralkowski

Just for kicks and giggles, who else targeted me besides the Kingpin?

[sstralkowski]

I didn't target you at all. I targetted JackA, Kit, Len(it didn't work because I got skrullinated), Rokk, Jacin, JoH, JoH, Jacin. I think I'm missing one in there somewhere. I think it was Len. I thought I targetted him twice.

Incidentally, my "proof" that Len was bad was that I targetted him for cancellation on night 3 and the Ringmaster failed. I was certain this meant I had succeeded before becoming a skrull. This was only confirmed further by Jacin's "proof" that later was revealed as a "gut feeling." Later, I became suspicious and asked Peers who confirmed the opposite.

Oh and Jacin, did your spider sense tell you I had impersonated you?

[JacinB]

Nope. I never got any notices when someone did something to me. That was all bluff, hoping to get the guy who'd kept targetting me to out himself.

All I saw was the morning write-ups when I'd've disappeared from the room before someone could get to me.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Knowing now that your target could yield a fake result, would you have trusted me from the beginning even though I was a hero?

Yes. I knew you weren't the Kingpin because the Kingpin wasn't active on the first night.

I knew there was a possibility for you to have become the skrull, but I was probably gonna check Doombot first. If I had survived 1 more night, we would have lynched Doombot (who as it turns out would have poped up as a villian). If I had survived 2 more nights, we wouldn't have had to worry about murders, and I would have gotten to you eventually, but you weren't on the top of my "might be a skrull" list.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Night 1: Kontrol, found her earring and bra

Quote of the day. :laugh:

[sstralkowski]

Nope. I never got any notices when someone did something to me. That was all bluff, hoping to get the guy who'd kept targetting me to out himself.

All I saw was the morning write-ups when I'd've disappeared from the room before someone could get to me.

Nice bluff. I believed it...considering I could do almost the same thing.

[sstralkowski]

Yes. I knew you weren't the Kingpin because the Kingpin wasn't active on the first night.

I knew there was a possibility for you to have become the skrull, but I was probably gonna check Doombot first. If I had survived 1 more night, we would have lynched Doombot (who as it turns out would have poped up as a villian). If I had survived 2 more nights, we wouldn't have had to worry about murders, and I would have gotten to you eventually, but you weren't on the top of my "might be a skrull" list.

Yeah, that's why I targetted you 2 nights in a row hoping that the Kingpin would target one if us and have a 50% chance of killing you. It was my last ditch efforf/longshot. :devious:

[Doombot 3.1]

I knew there was a possibility for you to have become the skrull, but I was probably gonna check Doombot first. If I had survived 1 more night, we would have lynched Doombot (who as it turns out would have poped up as a villian). If I had survived 2 more nights, we wouldn't have had to worry about murders, and I would have gotten to you eventually, but you weren't on the top of my "might be a skrull" list.

I was really annoyed when the Skrulls took out JackAssterton on the second night, which knocked out my ability to pass as a hero quite early in the game. Indeed, I was very lucky that JoH chose to check other people first.

Indeed, the only reason that I managed to take out JoH before he checked me was sheer dumb luck. I knew that he was being protected by the doctor, so I had to take out the doctor before I could get JoH. But I had no clue who the doctor was. And I was worried that I wouldn't be able to take out both the doctor and JoH before being revealed.

Then JoH posted something saying that he didn't know who the doctor was either, but had narrowed it down to the three people he had yet to check (one of whom, I believe was kontrol, who indeed was the doctor).

Now, instead of taking JoH at his word, I decided that the doctor could not have been one of those people he hadn't checked. I figured that if JoH really did not know who the doctor was, he wouldn't have stated that he thought it was one of those three people because that would essentially give the mafia a 1 out of 3 chance of getting the doctor. I also figured that if JoH really knew who the doctor was, it was in his best interest to point to a group of 3 people, none of whom was the doctor, because this would send the mafia after someone else.

So, after thinking about it, I concluded that the most likely candidate for the doctor was ... sstralkowski. (Yeah, that was a brilliant deduction :rolleyes: )

Of course, I targeted sstralkowski on the same night that he targeted JoH to switch roles, and of course, sstralkowski's luck held, allowing me to take out the one person who most threatened me just in time, despite the fact that every deduction I made was totally wrong. :laugh:

[kontrol]

Tell me about it.

When JackofHearts died, I was ridiculously paranoid that somehow my skills had been altered. I wasn't sure how, but beside the obvious skrull switch, I was worried that I may not be a healer anymore (Some how became a Quack Doctor as the wiki stated. But could really state it without effectively outing myself) So I started targeting people that I thought may be Mafia from that point on. theanalogkid (who I was wrong about), Doombot (but for some reason I didn't see you go out or come back when you killed Antipathy which made me suspect you more, but again no proof one way or another), and stral on the last night (the night I died).

[Jackofhearts2005]

Then JoH posted something saying that he didn't know who the doctor was either, but had narrowed it down to the three people he had yet to check (one of whom, I believe was kontrol, who indeed was the doctor).

Now, instead of taking JoH at his word, I decided that the doctor could not have been one of those people he hadn't checked. I figured that if JoH really did not know who the doctor was, he wouldn't have stated that he thought it was one of those three people because that would essentially give the mafia a 1 out of 3 chance of getting the doctor. I also figured that if JoH really knew who the doctor was, it was in his best interest to point to a group of 3 people, none of whom was the doctor, because this would send the mafia after someone else.

So, after thinking about it, I concluded that the most likely candidate for the doctor was ... sstralkowski. (Yeah, that was a brilliant deduction :rolleyes: )

Thats pretty much exactly what I was trying to do, as I was pretty darn sure that sstralkowski was in fact the doc.

Looks like you outsmarted me. Too bad I didn't really know. :laugh:

[theanalogkid]

I see no one lamenting my untimely demise:laugh: . and after the way you guys trashed my cool hangout too...

[Jackofhearts2005]

I see no one lamenting my untimely demise:laugh: . and after the way you guys trashed my cool hangout too...
I'm still confused why you didn't show up as "hero aligned."

[theanalogkid]

My pm said I was an independent.

[kontrol]

Yeah, it would still seem like Fury would have wanted to catch to bad guys more than just be left alone.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Night 1: Kontrol, found her earring and bra


Which would have been a lot more exciting had there not been so much cross-dressing going on in that Helicarrier. :rolleyes:

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah, it would still seem like Fury would have wanted to catch to bad guys more than just be left alone.
Right. He would have had to become a skrull (everyone could have "won" this way), get incredibly lucky and have the mafia kill everybody but him, or else have the heroes win. That seems pretty heroic aligned to me, but oh well.

[sstralkowski]

Thats pretty much exactly what I was trying to do, as I was pretty darn sure that sstralkowski was in fact the doc.

Looks like you outsmarted me. Too bad I didn't really know. :laugh:


:laugh: I sent so many not-so-subtle messages to Doc Kontrol to keep protecting you that I was SURE someone would find it odd. I was putting so much faith in my hail mary to get you killed that I couldn't risk it not working.

[kontrol]

:laugh: I sent so many not-so-subtle messages to Doc Kontrol to keep protecting you that I was SURE someone would find it odd. I was putting so much faith in my hail mary to get you killed that I couldn't risk it not working.
Truth be told you didn't even have to do that. Once he outed himself as the Cop, I had little choice but to protect him as he was our best chance at figuring out who was who.

[sstralkowski]

Truth be told you didn't even have to do that. Once he outed himself as the Cop, I had little choice but to protect him as he was our best chance at figuring out who was who.

I'm sure that's true. I was just being paranoid.

[sstralkowski]

Might we need a unanimous vote to lynch the Kingpin? If so, we'll need to get rid of Antipathy cause he's MIA. Might explain why he hasn't been killed yet.

Just reading over the endgame to see where I might have slipped up in case I can learn something from it to help me in future games. Anyway, noticed this little nugget. I guess Doombot realized he could help my "misguided" theory out a bit by killing Antipathy and allowing the possibility to lynch someone besides him. Slick move, man.

[Jackofhearts2005]

:laugh: I sent so many not-so-subtle messages to Doc Kontrol to keep protecting you that I was SURE someone would find it odd. I was putting so much faith in my hail mary to get you killed that I couldn't risk it not working.
I thought you were just trying to make yourself NOT look like the doc. :laugh:

[DocDoom187]

So early on i had a gaurdian angel, who targeted me to protect me and why?

[sstralkowski]

I thought you were just trying to make yourself NOT look like the doc. :laugh:

Well duh, I wasn't the doc. :laugh: :laugh:

[sstralkowski]

So early on i had a gaurdian angel, who targeted me to protect me and why?

It seems we all picked random people the first night. it just so happened that random meant mostly JackAssterson. :laugh:

[kontrol]

So early on i had a gaurdian angel, who targeted me to protect me and why?
Perfectly random mate, I had no reason not to try and protect someone and I wanted to see how much information I could glean from the act of following someone.

You just got picked at random the first night I'm afraid.

[Calabolg]

Wow.

I've just finished reading this thread and I have to say, this is one of the most entertaining threads I've ever read. It was so... labyrinthine. Props especially to sstral and doombot. I had no idea till the end.

[Antipathy]

Bump to get this moved to the Games Sub-forum.

[JackAssterson]

I have to go with my compatriots on this one. We don't want to kill off a potentially valuable resource this early in the game.

Vote: Nobody

Didn't bold your vote.

NOOB!

I bet you're Mafia, too.

[Ouchmaker]

Didn't bold your vote.

NOOB!

I bet you're Mafia, too.

You have given my Saturday morning a great start. Thank you, wish I could rep you.