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Welcome to HCRealms Mafia Crisis.
A quick recap of the rules before we begin. Mafia is a game where an informed minority tries to destroy an uninformed majority... translation, the bad guys know who they are, the good guys don't know who the bad guys are and try to find them before they're all dead. The game is played in two phases. During the day phase, everyone will cast a vote as to who they think is a member of the Mafia. When over half the players have voted for the same person, that person is killed and you learn if they were good or bad. If 48 hours go by and a majority vote has not been reached, nobody is 'lynched'. Either way, we then move to the Night Phase. The thread will be locked to represent everyone retreating to safety for the night and sleeping. Some of you will have special powers as part of your role; the night phase is when you will PM me the names of your targets for those powers. When the night is over (which happens when I have all the targets for the night, or 24 hours have passed), I will write up the events of the night and post them here. Sometimes the writeups will contain clues as to who did what; sometimes it will have red herrings. Once the writeup is posted, the thread is unlocked and the next day phase will begin. We continue until one side wins.
Things to remember:
--A better writeup of the rules is here. (http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page) This game will be slightly more complicated than what's described there, as (I'm sure this is no surprise to anyone from the last two games) everyone has some sort of 'special thing' about them. Doesn't mean everyone has a night power, but you never know...
--When you vote, please do so by saying Vote: whoever in bold. If you wish to change your vote, please say Change Vote: instead. Voting for 'Nobody' is a valid vote; if a majority votes for 'nobody' then nobody will be lynched and we'll move on to the night phase.
--If your role says you -may- PM me a target, you don't have to... but I appreciate a PM saying "Not tonight, thanks." If your role says you -must- PM me a target, and you do not? I'll pick one randomly. Or not-so-randomly. Don't blame me if you target someone who kills you.
--Please do not PM anyone about this game unless your role explicitly says you can. This is cheating.
--Please do not edit your posts in this thread. This is cheating.
--Please do not copy-and-paste anything from any PM I send you. This is also cheating.
--Please do not post in this thread after you are killed. This, too, is cheating and can ruin the game if done wrong.
--Cheaters don't get to play in any Mafia games I run, and I'll send your names along to any Mafia games I see start up, along with what you did.
--Remember, it's just a game. You will get paranoid, you will be stabbed in the back by someone, you will see somebody do or say something stupid and want to smack them. Just breathe deep and relax. If things get out of hand, we do have a mod playing who will forcibly remind you to chill out if needed. It hasn't happened yet, and I'd like to keep it that way.
--EXPECT ANYTHING!!!
PMs will be sent out today (I'm limited to one a minute, we have 25 people, and I'm at work). Once all PMs are out, I will unlock the thread and make the first post of the game.
And for the record, we do have 25 people competing in this game. (Vicious x, Docdoom187, biz567, KitsuShel, KaineMak, St-Dumas, JackAssterson, antipathy, Jackofhearts, CarlosMucha, charlesx, sstralkowski, Melkhor, Thawmus, batfink, kontrol, TMNT99, theanalogkid, Doombot 3.1, Rokk_Krinn, Iron Ham, Scott Neelan, Calabolg, JacinB, scehano)
Day One Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2903494&postcount=61)
Night One Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2905641&postcount=62)
Day Two Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2911991&postcount=543)
Night Two Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2914559&postcount=545)
Day Three Writeup (http://http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2916190&postcount=882)
Night Three Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2918234&postcount=883)
Day Four Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2924683&postcount=1256)
Night Four Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2927488&postcount=1257)
Day Five Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2929726&postcount=1456)
Night Five Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2930307&postcount=1457)
Day Six Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2931467&postcount=1515)
Night Six Writeup (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2932145&postcount=1516)
Game Start
Another day, another Crisis. The Monitor of New Earth, in an attempt to prevent a cross-dimensional invasion, gathered a handful of the heroes of his world together to inform them that a Justice League from a world gone bad intended to destroy New Earth and make their own world the focal point of all reality. Before anyone could put together a battle plan (or even ask why the heck the Monitor chose some of the people he did), a 'reality bomb' was detonated, dimensional energy pouring into the satelite where the Monitor had gathered everyone. When it had passed, everyone awoke to find that things had changed... they had changed. Nobody was recognizable to each other. All that was certain is that New Earth was still in danger... that there were more people there than there had been a few moments earlier... and that the Monitor was dead on the floor, his body warped to death by dimensional energy. It was time to decide who among them was trying to snuff out trillions of lives... and the fate of worlds hung in the balance.
Peers is dead. He was The Monitor of New Earth, who I'm fairly sure will be given the name 'Uatu' at some point during Countdown
The first day phase has begun... it's time to decide who you think deserves to die. With twenty-five players, thirteen votes are required for a successful lynch. If a majority is not reached within 48 hours of this post... well, that lands smack in a weekend, so we'll keep the deadline open until Monday sometime, so don't feel rushed to do something stupid, like vote for nobody or anything...
Start out the same way we always do. No lynch.
Pashmina
08/16/2007, 12:54
No lynch.
:)
I have no idea what's going on.
Iron Ham
08/16/2007, 12:56
No lynchy, I say!
As always on the first day ...
Vote: No Lynch.
DocDoom187
08/16/2007, 12:57
No lynch.
Pashy, wrong thread, you're not signed up for this one. :p
NO lynch
KitsuShel
08/16/2007, 12:58
No lunch, I mean lynch.
Doombot 3.1
08/16/2007, 13:00
VOTE: No Lynch
Pashmina
08/16/2007, 13:00
Oh.
*was confused*
*leaves*
Well, that's six votes for No Lynch.
Screw it. You guys vote No Lynch here, every game I do in the future will start at night. This is, like, where you decide to dogpile on people until they give you a reason to leave them alone, or something... It's hard to foster paranoia when I have to do all the work myself at the begining. :)
Well, that's six votes for No Lynch.
Screw it. You guys vote No Lynch here, every game I do in the future will start at night. This is, like, where you decide to dogpile on people until they give you a reason to leave them alone, or something... It's hard to foster paranoia when I have to do all the work myself at the begining. :)
Vote: Peers
Vote: Peers
I'm already dead. No lynching the dea...
oooo, Ghostbusters mafia.... no, wait, busy with this one...
I'm already dead. No lynching the dea...
oooo, Ghostbusters mafia.... no, wait, busy with this one...
You would say that, wouldn't you?
Especially if you're really the Anti-Monitor.
The jig is up!
Calabolg
08/16/2007, 13:17
Vote: No Lynch.
Yay we're starting! Woot!
In this case, I'm not one to go against the tide of popular opinion. May the Gods have mercy on our souls for all the horrors that are bound to commence come nightfall!
Vote: No Lynch!
You would say that, wouldn't you?
Especially if you're really the Anti-Monitor.
The jig is up!
That being said, however, I'm all for giving the corpse of the so-called "Monitor" a few good kicks, just to be on the safe side!
Crises confuse me.
Is this the part where we're all back on one Earth in one existence, except for the 52 other universes that aren't part of our existence? Or, is this the part where we're all part of one Earth in one existence until Alexander Luthor shows up and hooks Peers' corpse up to a big generator powered by the energies of super beings that used to be part of other universes in order to split New Earth into a bunch of different universes until he can find one that's perfect, but gets defeated by the heroes and killed by the Joker before he can do so ... ?
JackAssterson
08/16/2007, 13:41
Vote: No David Lynch
That's 9 votes for lynching no-body (whoever he is) so far, 4 more to seal the deal and usher in the night! :)
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 13:44
Vote: Thawmus
Lay off my boy Peers.
EDIT: Fixed the spelling of OFF. :nervous:
theanalogkid
08/16/2007, 13:44
Vote: No Lynch. Although I do agree with Peers about the first couple of day phases being to nicey -nicey.
Thawmus
Lay of my boy Peers.
I think there's a seperate clan for that in a different part of the 'Realms.
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 13:52
I think there's a seperate clan for that in a different part of the 'Realms.
It's hard to come off as tough and aggressive when I can't even spell. :confused:
It's hard to come off as tough and aggressive when I can't even spell. :confused:
We've all noticed your hard-boiled aggression and no-nonsense attitude, but now that we've all seen it, why not switch your vote back to something more sensible like "no lynch" like the rest of us?
That way the night phase will come so much quicker, and we can get started for real with the slinging of wild accusations :)
We've all noticed your hard-boiled aggression and no-nonsense attitude, but now that we've all seen it, why not switch your vote back to something more sensible like "no lynch" like the rest of us?
That way the night phase will come so much quicker, and we can get started for real with the slinging of wild accusations :)
Aha!
Melkhor and Thawmus are both in the mafia, and they don't want us to catch on by accidentally killing Thawmus (the Don) on the first day based upon nothing more than Thawmus trying to string up an already dead Peers.
I know who my lynch votes tomorrow are going toward. :devious:
Iron Ham
08/16/2007, 14:01
Aha!
Melkhor and Thawmus are both in the mafia, and they don't want us to catch on by accidentally killing Thawmus (the Don) on the first day based upon nothing more than Thawmus trying to string up an already dead Peers.
I know who my lynch votes tomorrow are going toward. :devious:
DUO CHARACTER! DUO CHARACTER!
scehaono
08/16/2007, 14:05
vote - No Lynch
DUO CHARACTER! DUO CHARACTER!
It's Harbinger!!! JacinB killed the Monitor! :p
Vote: No lynch
In case Peers was taking my vote seriously.
If I'm not mistaken, that's thirteen.
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 14:26
Fine, I'll play nice...for now. :devious:
Change vote: No lynch
scehaono
08/16/2007, 14:31
so we're at the night phase now?
so we're at the night phase now?
Once Peers gets back on, yeah.
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 14:36
...
While the thread is locked, sleep with one eye open. I'm watching you. :devious:
While the thread is locked, sleep with one eye open. I'm watching you. :devious:
or is it vice versa? ;)
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 14:47
or is it vice versa? ;)
Well, hopefully, if I'm watching you, I'm neither sleeping nor only have one eye open. Maybe we'll just have a staring contest.
Ewww! Take it outside you two! :)
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 14:48
"I'm watching you."
"Yeah, well I'm watching you watch me."
"Yeah, well I'm watching you watch me watch you."
"Yeah, well I'm watching you watch me watch you watch me."
etc.....
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 14:49
Ewww! Take it outside you two! :)
Umm, aren't we in a space station?
Iron Ham
08/16/2007, 14:51
Umm, aren't we in a space station?
= THE POINT :mad:
Umm, aren't we in a space station?
What, you can't survive in space unaided? I thought everyone could? :p
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 14:57
What, you can't survive in space unaided? I thought everyone could? :p
Maybe everyone in the DCU, but I'm Wolverine, bub. Just another one of my pimped out appearances.
DocDoom187
08/16/2007, 14:58
Maybe everyone in the DCU, but I'm Wolverine, bub. Just another one of my pimped out appearances.
Hey, i thought I was Wolverine!?!!?!:mad: :mad: :mad:
As many appearances as he makes each week, I supposed you could both be Wolverine (or, at least, both be the Skrulls who have been impersonating him).
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 15:00
Hey, i thought I was Wolverine!?!!?!:mad: :mad: :mad:
No way you could be Wolverine, he'd never gut himself.
sstralkowski
08/16/2007, 15:01
As many appearances as he makes each week, I supposed you could both be Wolverine (or, at least, both be the Skrulls who have been impersonating him).
Good point, I'm Skrullverine.
DocDoom187
08/16/2007, 15:01
No way you could be Wolverine, he'd never gut himself.
I didn't gut myself! The King Pin did it!
You wanna mess bub. Or should I say skrull!!!:mad:
"snikt!"
Edit: You beat me to the Skrull line :(
What, you can't survive in space unaided? I thought everyone could? :p
Melkhor hints at his power, as well as a way that the mafia might dispose of our bodies. The case against him and Thawmus builds.
:cheeky:
DocDoom187
08/16/2007, 15:02
Melkhor hints at his power, as well as a way that the mafia might dispose of our bodies. The case against him and Thawmus builds.
:cheeky:
Jacin, can you believe we're in the Maggia again!?!?!?
:cheeky:
Good point, I'm Skrullverine.
You and Joey Q. can both go out the airlock, then. Anyone for changing their votes to Skrullverine and Joey Q. ... ?
...
Anyone?
...
Alright, you're safe for now. But, I've got my eye on you having your eye on him having his eye on you.
I didn't gut myself! The King Pin did it!
You wanna mess bub. Or should I say skrull!!!:mad:
"snikt!"
Edit: You beat me to the Skrull line :(
1) I beat you to the Skrull line.
2) QUIT EDITING YOUR POSTS!.
DocDoom187
08/16/2007, 15:07
1) I beat you to the Skrull line.
2) QUIT EDITING YOUR POSTS!.
If all I'm doing is adding, i thought I was allowed to?
Peers, this needs conformation. If I don't edit anything out, can I stilll edit? Like typos, or like in the case above, I was beaten to a punch line....?
Iron Ham
08/16/2007, 15:11
Peers is back on! Yay!
If all I'm doing is adding, i thought I was allowed to?
Peers, this needs conformation. If I don't edit anything out, can I stilll edit? Like typos, or like in the case above, I was beaten to a punch line....?
No editing at all. Period. No adding, no subtracting, no changing. This is the only warning the entire game will receive before I start killing people.
If all I'm doing is adding, i thought I was allowed to?
Peers, this needs conformation. If I don't edit anything out, can I stilll edit? Like typos, or like in the case above, I was beaten to a punch line....?
He has already spoken on it, man.
--Please do not edit your posts in this thread. This is cheating.
...
--Cheaters don't get to play in any Mafia games I run, and I'll send your names along to any Mafia games I see start up, along with what you did.
Not sure how he could be much more specific than that.
DocDoom187
08/16/2007, 15:13
No editing at all. Period. No adding, no subtracting, no changing. This is the only warning the entire game will receive before I start killing people.
O. OK. Sorry Peers. My bad.
I won't do it again.
If all I'm doing is adding, i thought I was allowed to?
Peers, this needs conformation. If I don't edit anything out, can I stilll edit? Like typos, or like in the case above, I was beaten to a punch line....?
I don't think editing is allowed, period.
And if you are adding things to old posts, you're creating the possibility of secret communication.
For example, I could edit a post back on the first page that I'll hint to Jacin to look at, where it tells him that I know he's Batman, and I am, in fact, Superman.
DocDoom187
08/16/2007, 15:15
Thawmus, you came late to the no edit party...
I was gonna invite you but Jacin told me not to
I think there should also be a rule about hidden text.....
Day 1 is... sigh... over.
In their near-infinite wisdom, the assembled heroes decided not to lynch anyone. Heck, they were so smug in their superiority and ability to survive anything that they didn't even bother using lynching as an interrogation tool to try and figure out who among them wanted everyone else dead... or even who their friends had turned into. So, nobody died.
Night One has begun. Those of you with powers that work at night, you have 24 hours to PM me the name of your targets. Night One will end when I say so, but you only have 24 hours to PM me the names of your targets. And everyone who voted 'no lynch', remember, any deaths tonight are on your hands.
Night One is over.
I told you. Vote 'no lynch' and the blood of the night is on your hands. Well... I hope you have big hands, 'cause there's a lot of blood.
Where do we begin? Let's start off with the practical kills. scehaono stood apart from the others, feeling like he didn't really belong here. That night, as everyone retired to quarters, he found himself wondering if there was a place for him in this new world. He never noticed the figure that slipped into his room. "You. Last time, you were part of what ruined everything. This time, you die first." As he perished, spewing energy, he realized he was happy just to have been remembered by someone.
Another character not remembered much by the other heroes... or, rather, one they'd prefer not to remember, was played by Doombot 3.1. In his case, he had graduated to a somewhat important role in the universe. In his case, however, he had one weakness that would be his downfall. "Hey, beautiful. If I told you I usually have the body of a chiselled Greek god, would you hit it against you?" With his attention focused elsewhere, he never saw the killing blow come from behind.
Coordination seemed to be a theme this night. Jackassterson was enjoying the fruits of a good night's work when he encountered someone and started feeling uneasy. "You're all alike," the figure said, "You don't like magic, do you? Well me... I'm made of magic." Jack screamed at the figure's touch and tried to back away... but backed into a wall... no... backed into something far more dangerous. "Pathetic copy," the wall said, moments before it slipt his skull with a single punch.
And finally... yes, finally... we have a killing that doesn't seem coodinated or planned so much as a happy accident. There's no loud noise or screaming... no, this just involves a loud, hideous laughter, a gunshot, and the discovery of a body.
scehaono is dead. He was Breach of Earth... well, who knows what Earth he's from. Doesn't matter now.
Doombot 3.1 is dead. He was Booster Gold of New Earth, time-travelling guardian of... well, time.
Jackassterson is dead. He was Superman of Earth-33, and that should tell you something right there.
Jackofhearts2005 is dead. He was Robin of New Earth, and he died with a hideous smile on his face.
Remember, if you are dead, you may not post ot this thread or PM anyone about the game until it is over. Thank you all for playing, but someone's gotta die the first night, and it was you four.
The thread will be unlocked when all night PMs have been sent out.
We have now entered Day 2. The thread has been unlocked; given the weekend and whatnot, the day phase will continue until a majority vote is reached or 72 hours have passed, for those who can't get online on the weekends. With 21 players left, 11 votes is a majority and will cause a lynching.
Iron Ham
08/17/2007, 12:35
Yay! I'm still alive!
Well, that was an *interesting* night to say the least...
We've lost Robin, most likely to the Joker, and Booster Gold from our ranks, but it looks like our dastardly foes from the alternate Earths lost two if their number as well with Breach and Superman.
I'd say that sounds like a pretty good start, all things considered.
Now, for the more serious nature of lynchings. I have no real information of any worth at this moment, so I'm drawing a blank currently, but does anyone else have any suggestions as to who, if any, we should string up?
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 12:47
Peers, I never read the comic :( So when you say who died, I'm not really sure of their alignment. Can you say it next to their names, like in the past couple of games, or is there a reason your not saying it?
Peers, I never read the comic :( So when you say who died, I'm not really sure of their alignment. Can you say it next to their names, like in the past couple of games, or is there a reason your not saying it?
He did. We're New Earth (the good guys) everyone not from New Earth are not our friends ;)
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 12:50
He did. We're New Earth (the good guys) everyone not from New Earth are not our friends ;)
OOO. OK. Gotcha!
Well, that was an *interesting* night to say the least...
We've lost Robin, most likely to the Joker, and Booster Gold from our ranks, but it looks like our dastardly foes from the alternate Earths lost two if their number as well with Breach and Superman.
I'd say that sounds like a pretty good start, all things considered.
Now, for the more serious nature of lynchings. I have no real information of any worth at this moment, so I'm drawing a blank currently, but does anyone else have any suggestions as to who, if any, we should string up?
It may only be one though. I think it's safer to assume one right now rather than 2.
I think Booster may have been taken out by a tandem as well. Roleblocker and killer.
Probably the alt versions of Wonder woman, the lasso makes a great restraint and probably Batman (being struck from behind) sent out by the alt JLA 'Don'. Who I'd think was Superman, and that could be a great coup if that is what happened. But too many things would have to have gone right for that to happen. So I'll only list it as my initial theory, I'll need more to get anything else from it.
But you're probably right about the Joker.
We have two days to come up with other theories about lynching somebody.
List of the living
------------------------------------
Vicious x
Docdoom187
biz567
KitsuShel
KaineMak
St-Dumas
antipathy
CarlosMucha
charlesx
sstralkowski
Melkhor
Thawmus
batfink
kontrol
TMNT99
theanalogkid
Rokk_Krinn
Iron Ham
Scott Neelan
Calabolg
JacinB
So assuming that us New Earther's are in the majority (otherwise we have a REAL problem!), this night was fairly beneficial for us.
Sure loosing Robin is a tragedy and I'm sure Batman is out there grieving somewhere, and Booster is.... well I'm sure he's happily reunited with Ted now, somewhere.
But trading those two for a Superman and Breach isn't bad at all in the long run I'd say.
Now all we have to do is sniff out another dastardly other-earther to string up today and we'll be off to a shining start! :)
Oh, and would you all agree that if the Joker's here, and responsible for Robin's demise, he'd almost have to be our unaligned serial killer? It just seems to be a perfect fit for the Harlequin of Hate.
Oh we have 3 days. Sweet.
Oh, and would you all agree that if the Joker's here, and responsible for Robin's demise, he'd almost have to be our unaligned serial killer? It just seems to be a perfect fit for the Harlequin of Hate.
Most likely. Doesn't fit in with being a JLA alt. It might also leave us with a bit of a problem outside of just him though. We also could have another wildcard out there. We had four deaths. Only one of them are Mafia related . I'm betting on the Booster killing being that one. Let's say Joker's our serial killer. That's robin That's 2 deaths. Giving one other one to the townie side (say regular night hunter). That still leaves one of these deaths unaccounted for. Could we have two townie killers? Doubt it. I think there's more than one Mafia this time around.
theanalogkid
08/17/2007, 13:11
I agree about the Joker. Maybe he can only take out Bat allies and Batmen?
Well the Joker has taken out bad guys as well right? In Infinite Crisis I think, though I didn't read it...
theanalogkid
08/17/2007, 13:15
Just a theory as he took out Robin. If he had taken out someone else...
Well, last game we did both Man-Bull and Firebrand could kill directly, and Calypso indirectly on the "hero" side (though Firebrand only had one shot), so I don't think it's entirely impossible.
However, the write-up definately indicated that whoever killed Breach wanted revenge for his role in the Crisis, so maybe we've got a band of vengeful Earth-2 expatriates roaming the space station as well?
charlesx
08/17/2007, 13:17
I don't think that the Joker plays by any rules except for what there are inside his own twisted head, therefore he is unpredictable. (Ironically, in this game he is a wild card.)
Calabolg
08/17/2007, 13:21
I'd think the Joker would be the (a?) serial killer. It certainly fits his character. Considering the amount of people this time, I'd be surprised if we didn't have more then one mafia. Also, I'm guessing Breach was an independant...
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 13:21
"I'm made of magic" I think that's the key to who killed Robin. And as far as I know, Joker isn't made of magic, unless its like an Emporer Joker.
theanalogkid
08/17/2007, 13:26
According to the write-up, JackA was "enjoying the fruits of a good nights work" meaning he could have taken out Booster of Breach before croaking himself.
According to the write-up, JackA was "enjoying the fruits of a good nights work" meaning he could have taken out Booster of Breach before croaking himself.
Or maybe he was protecting someone else on the Alternate-Earths team, that's usually what Superman does. At any rate, he was taken down by a double team consinsting of someone magical and a shapeshifter, according to the write-up. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to who these might be?
Well, last game we did both Man-Bull and Firebrand could kill directly, and Calypso indirectly on the "hero" side (though Firebrand only had one shot), so I don't think it's entirely impossible.
However, the write-up definately indicated that whoever killed Breach wanted revenge for his role in the Crisis, so maybe we've got a band of vengeful Earth-2 expatriates roaming the space station as well?
Ok. That's entirely plausible. Which is why I'm thinking there's another Mafia in the game.
I'm just a little apprehensive about Breach since in the comics he was supposed to be an alt Earth (8 i believe) Captain Atom. That's my reasoning behind why there may be two Mafia to start.
Course there may be three, but I'll try and keep my paranoia to a minimum to start off. Plenty of time to let it build later.
On the Joker, I think he's a serial killer straight out. Remember it said he got a "happy accident" in the write up. I think he lucked out in killing Robin.
"I'm made of magic" I think that's the key to who killed Robin. And as far as I know, Joker isn't made of magic, unless its like an Emporer Joker.
It think the made of magic was in reference to who killed Superman. Not Robin.
I don't know of any Earth-33..........so I'm really confused what we're supposed to know...... :ermm:
I don't know of any Earth-33..........so I'm really confused what we're supposed to know...... :ermm:
I'm not aware of any Earth-33 either, I think it was just supposed to tell us that we're dealing with (possibly) a wide Alternate Earth alliance against us and not just our regular run-of-the-mill villains.
theanalogkid
08/17/2007, 13:38
I think Earth 33 is a Peers creation, not a DC one.
It think the made of magic was in reference to who killed Superman. Not Robin.
Kontrol is right. The alternate Superman was taken out by the magic-user and the Shapeshifter, both of which must have known, or at least heard of, Superman.
In that case, well, I don't know what that means.
It means that we've got someone along the lines of Black Adam, Dr. Fate, or someone who's magical, which is doing roleblocking. And their killer is probably Ultraman.
Or something like that. Jeez, I don't have a clue... :ermm:
Or maybe he was protecting someone else on the Alternate-Earths team, that's usually what Superman does. At any rate, he was taken down by a double team consinsting of someone magical and a shapeshifter, according to the write-up. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to who these might be?
I completely missed that it was the wall that killed Superman not the magic touch.
Yeah. There's definitely two mafia in this game.
The coordination was way too precise. Two Roleblockers (most likely) and two killers target the same person. I'm not even sure the likelihood of that happening without night PM contact.
I think Earth 33 is a Peers creation, not a DC one.
That's what I'm thinking as well.
An Earth that has a JLA that went evil.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 13:45
I'm completely lost. I have no clue what the heck happened in Crisis, and if a DC character hasn't been made in Clix yet, I probably never heard of them. Sorry guys, I'm no help at all.
I'm completely lost. I have no clue what the heck happened in Crisis, and if a DC character hasn't been made in Clix yet, I probably never heard of them. Sorry guys, I'm no help at all.
I've read every Crisis, know of a lot of DC characters, and I'm completely befuddled as well, so don't feel down.... :(
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 13:47
That's what I'm thinking as well.
An Earth that has a JLA that went evil.
If there's an evil JLA, it's possible we're dealing with Plastic Man and Zatanna as out shape shifter and Magic user.
I'm completely lost. I have no clue what the heck happened in Crisis, and if a DC character hasn't been made in Clix yet, I probably never heard of them. Sorry guys, I'm no help at all.
This is a new Crisis. I don't think you really need to know what happened in the old one to figure things out.
Where's Rokk with his encyclopedic knowledge when you need him?
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 13:51
Also, anyone notice a theme in the deaths? Doombot was final 3 in the first game. JoH was a key player as well in that game too and was final 3 in Wild West. JackAssterson is always a target. Seems like someone's taking out the prominent Mafia players early.
theanalogkid
08/17/2007, 13:52
Breach was part of Infinite Crisis, taking Captian Atom's spot.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 13:52
This is a new Crisis. I don't think you really need to know what happened in the old one to figure things out.
Where's Rokk with his encyclopedic knowledge when you need him?
He was probably busy "distracting" Booster Gold and didn't get a good night's sleep. ;)
Iron Ham
08/17/2007, 13:53
Also, anyone notice a theme in the deaths? Doombot was final 3 in the first game. JoH was a key player as well in that game too and was final 3 in Wild West. JackAssterson is always a target. Seems like someone's taking out the prominent Mafia players early.
What?! AND I GOT LEFT OUT!?!?!?!?!? :mad:
Also, anyone notice a theme in the deaths? Doombot was final 3 in the first game. JoH was a key player as well in that game too and was final 3 in Wild West. JackAssterson is always a target. Seems like someone's taking out the prominent Mafia players early.
So what you're saying is, Jacin's probably going to die tonight. :ermm:
Yeah, I'd like to say that this line of thinking isn't sound, but that seems to have been the pattern last night.
If there's an evil JLA, it's possible we're dealing with Plastic Man and Zatanna as out shape shifter and Magic user.
Could, but Zatanna has a very...distinct magic style that would be obvious if used. Even an alt version of her should have some tell tale sign. But Plastic Man makes a lot of sense Shapeshifter wise. The only thing is, why would they kill their Superman?
Well, I guess the alt mafia could be a JLA as well? I hope not. That's be all types of headache inducing. I'm liking a different combination for these two roles.
Could, but Zatanna has a very...distinct magic style that would be obvious if used. Even an alt version of her should have some tell tale sign. But Plastic Man makes a lot of sense Shapeshifter wise. The only thing is, why would they kill their Superman?
Well, I guess the alt mafia could be a JLA as well? I hope not. That's be all types of headache inducing. I'm liking a different combination for these two roles.
I'm trying to figure out how Plastic Man would kill Superman, and I've got nothing. You guys know something about Plas that I don't?
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 13:56
Could, but Zatanna has a very...distinct magic style that would be obvious if used. Even an alt version of her should have some tell tale sign. But Plastic Man makes a lot of sense Shapeshifter wise. The only thing is, why would they kill their Superman?
Well, I guess the alt mafia could be a JLA as well? I hope not. That's be all types of headache inducing. I'm liking a different combination for these two roles.
Alright, my brain hurts.
theanalogkid
08/17/2007, 13:57
If SS's pattern is right, I am ok for awhile. Just glad I madeit past the first night.
Also, anyone notice a theme in the deaths? Doombot was final 3 in the first game. JoH was a key player as well in that game too and was final 3 in Wild West. JackAssterson is always a target. Seems like someone's taking out the prominent Mafia players early.
I did. As to why Jack always dies in the first two days though I'll never figure out.
I'm almost completely lost.
We've got a Joker (probably serial killer). He killed Robin. Which, I would think, would indicate that there's also a Batman.
We've got someone magical (Dr. Fate? Zatanna? Felix Faust?), who is teamed with a shape-shifter ... though, I don't know of anyone in DC who really fits that bill outside of Elongated Man and Plastic Man.
If it were Zatanna and Elongated Man, it could be possible that the 'Satellite Era' JLA from Identity Crisis was responsible for taking out JackAssterson.
(I'm not sure, though, why they would be targetting people seemingly at random in hopes of getting a Mafia member. :ermm:)
theanalogkid
08/17/2007, 13:58
Somehow, his weakness to magic allowed him to be punked by Plas. Maybe those alt Leaguers have some powers we don't.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 13:59
If SS's pattern is right, I am ok for awhile. Just glad I madeit past the first night.
Umm, you made it to final 2 in Wild West. I'm terrified that I'm gonna be next. Jacin and I co-won the first one and I RAN the Wild West. :nervous:
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:00
Could, but Zatanna has a very...distinct magic style that would be obvious if used. Even an alt version of her should have some tell tale sign. But Plastic Man makes a lot of sense Shapeshifter wise. The only thing is, why would they kill their Superman?
Well, I guess the alt mafia could be a JLA as well? I hope not. That's be all types of headache inducing. I'm liking a different combination for these two roles.
My thoughts:
I'm not thinking that the magic user was Zatanna. They said they were made of magic, right? Who's made of magic? The only person off of the top of my head is Wonder Woman (created from clay of the Greek's God's magic).
If there is an other Earth's JLA mafia, I think its safe to assume that there's a Big 3, Supes, Bats and Wondy. Our primary goal should be to sort that out.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:01
I did. As to why Jack always dies in the first two days though I'll never figure out.
He's great at riddles. And these write-up sare just that.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:03
My thoughts:
I'm not thinking that the magic user was Zatanna. They said they were made of magic, right? Who's made of magic? The only person off of the top of my head is Wonder Woman (created from clay of the Greek's God's magic).
If there is an other Earth's JLA mafia, I think its safe to assume that there's a Big 3, Supes, Bats and Wondy. Our primary goal should be to sort that out.
Yeah, but has physical contact between Supes and WW ever hurt him in the past?
theanalogkid
08/17/2007, 14:03
WW has never had that kind of effect on Superman before. I think it is a Zatanna or even a Etrigan/ Demon type. Possibly Zaurial as well.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:04
I hate not being able to edit spelling mistakes. I transpose letters all the time in my haste to get the information out to the masses.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:07
Yeah, but has physical contact between Supes and WW ever hurt him in the past?
Yeah, but its parrallel Supes and Wonderwoman, she might have been able to hurt him. I can't see Zatanna, just doesn't fit right to me.
I'm feeling Batman was the roleblocked Supes, then Wonder Woman took him out.
I'm trying to figure out how Plastic Man would kill Superman, and I've got nothing. You guys know something about Plas that I don't?
IF it's an alt Plastic Man he's highly dangerous. But in conjunction with a role blocker, Someone that could be notoriously difficult to kill at night, gets opened up to being killed, as their power stops working.
I'm thinking Superman was the Don of Earth-33.
His kill choice was Booster Gold. He sends his role blocker (RB) and killer (K) after the same target pretty much insuring that Booster gets iced unless he gets amazingly lucky and the doctor/bodyguard happened to choose him at night as well.
Superman was killed by the alt Mafia. In an amazingly similar play that he just made, he gets taken down by the alt Mafia's RB and K. This implies to me that the Don is someone that's played this game before.
Breach's killer escapes me though. Nothing distinctive about how he was killed, just some cryptic statement acknowledging Breach's existence and a disdain for it.
Robin was killed by the Joker by a "happy accident". If you can call Joker killing Robin an accident. Maybe he got the results of a poll or something.
That's my current theory. It cuts out few suspects to me though. But anybody feel free to chime in.
Calabolg
08/17/2007, 14:10
"Pathetic copy," the wall said, moments before it slipt his skull with a single punch.
Are you sure it's not another alt Superman? That would support the whole "multiple JLA" idea...
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:11
I don't think Super man was the don. Normally the don has some sort of protection against night kills.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:14
Are you sure it's not another alt Superman? That would support the whole "multiple JLA" idea...
Suggesting that maybe there's another Don El running around?
Iron Ham
08/17/2007, 14:15
Suggesting that maybe there's another Don El running around? Super-Lulz
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:15
Suggesting that maybe there's another Don El running around?
Doesn't Batman seem mroe like the Don type than Supes?
I don't think Super man was the don. Normally the don has some sort of protection against night kills.
Hmm...I think you might be right. I forgot about that. Though would Role blocking negate that?
Time to do more research on this game.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:17
Ok, I know we all like to wait for the third day or so to lynch, but Peers keeps mentioning about leaving blood on our hands.
Anyone have any info gathered last night that would help us pick a lynch target?
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:19
Doesn't Batman seem mroe like the Don type than Supes?
I would think Bats would be more of a role blocker than a don, considering his incap skills.
Can't say that I do, Kit.
But the wiki does say that the don may be immune to night killing. Not that he actually is.
It could be a penalty that Peers instated since there was no lynch to start the game.
Everybody's open the first night?
Though I guess Batman would be a good Don as well.
Scott Neelan
08/17/2007, 14:24
I don't really have anything productive to add to this discussion. Does anyone have any idea who to lynch? Any useful info that wouldn't completely give you away to give out?
I would think Bats would be more of a role blocker than a don, considering his incap skills.
That was my initial thought as well, but I'm liking him for the tracker/killer (for the alt version if there is one.) Similar to Wolverine's role in the first one.
I'm thinking Wonder Woman was the roleblocker on Booster.
Let's say that Superman-33 was the Don of the mafia.
Since someone killed him on the first night, does that mean that the mafia can't kill anyone anymore? Or, does someone else simply take over to call the hits?
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:26
Yea. I'll be honest. I didn't get many clues out of the write up, or from my power.
No Lynch for now. Until someone brings evidence or something.
If there's a cop out there or something, and you found out anything important, share it, and you'll be protected by the doctor tonight so you're not a target.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:26
That was my initial thought as well, but I'm liking him for the tracker/killer (for the alt version if there is one.) Similar to Wolverine's role in the first one.
I'm thinking Wonder Woman was the roleblocker on Booster.
That makes sense, as well. The paranoia is starting to creep up my back, lol.
I don't really have anything productive to add to this discussion. Does anyone have any idea who to lynch? Any useful info that wouldn't completely give you away to give out?
We haven't heard anything back from our tracker, yet.
I'll go DocDoom187's route, for now.
Until we get solid information on someone, I'm not comfortable taking a shot at someone without any evidence one way or the other against them.
Vote: No Lynch.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:30
I hate this no lynch for 3 days stuff. Lynch Vote: Thawmus
Who killed Breach?
Whomever it was, they seem to remember earlier Crises, which could either be Harbinger or Psycho Pirate. If that's the case, is it possible that we had an Alternate Earth JLA mafia (which JackAssterson appears to have been a part of) along with a mafia made up of villains ... ?
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:32
Everyone remember. This is the only time we have to talk, so we don't want to reach a majority right away.
I hate this no lynch for 3 days stuff. Lynch Vote: Thawmus
Dude. For all we know, Thawmus is the cop. Or, the doctor.
There's just as good a chance that he's that as there is that he's mafia.
vicious x
08/17/2007, 14:34
is it me or does anyone miss the chats during the night phase,.... I mean we get to hear from people who aren't on during the day,....
anyways,.... superman could have been the don but being roleblocked doesn't that mean he loses that power?
Let's say that Superman-33 was the Don of the mafia.
Since someone killed him on the first night, does that mean that the mafia can't kill anyone anymore? Or, does someone else simply take over to call the hits?
My guess is someone else takes the Don role. With an evil Batman it would make a lot of sense for it to happen that way.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:34
I doubt we'll reach a majority anytime soon, lol. I think voting no lynch here is going to end up badly for us, but we need a tracker or someone to point us in a good direction. Randomly lynching will only get us so far.
Scott Neelan
08/17/2007, 14:35
See, I want to lynch someone. I want to lynch someone because Peers keeps implying that NOT lynching someone is gonna cause bad things to happen. But I have no idea WHO to lynch. If someone could help me with some information, I'd be grateful. Otherwise, I'll have to pick at random just because I don't wanna know what happens if we go another day without a lynch.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:36
I'm telling you all. The Don would not be that easy to kill. I know Peers, he clever :p He wouldn't let us just kill off the Don. At least not on the first night. We're making too big of an assumption.
Peers definitely implied enough that no lynch doesn't help us. Course he could be doing it for the sheer paranoia that implying what he did would induce.
I just need more info.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:38
I'm telling you all. The Don would not be that easy to kill. I know Peers, he clever :p He wouldn't let us just kill off the Don. At least not on the first night. We're making too big of an assumption.
For once, god help me, I agree with DocDoom. :cross-eye
The Don is out there, I can feel him staring a hole in my back.
*ouch* Literally.
I'm telling you all. The Don would not be that easy to kill. I know Peers, he clever :p He wouldn't let us just kill off the Don. At least not on the first night. We're making too big of an assumption.
But, if he got roleblocked (as it would appear from the write-up he did), the Don couldn't have done anything. He wouldn't have had any immunity.
(And, whomever it was who teamed up to attack him got incredibly lucky knocking him off on the first night.)
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:40
Dude. For all we know, Thawmus is the cop. Or, the doctor.
There's just as good a chance that he's that as there is that he's mafia.
Ok, just so I don't seem like a complete idiot, here's my logic. If there are more than one mafia, the chances are good that us heroes are outnumbered in the big picture. If that's the case, we're going to need one mafia to team up on the other with us during the day. They'll do it without us even knowing who they are. My guess is that if each of them can kill and knowns who their allies are, then the chances of US dying at night is seriously huge. A portion of each group's known targets consists of completely heroes. We GOTTA go for the gold on this one. And I'm at elast beign consistent with Thawmus.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:41
For once, god help me, I agree with DocDoom. :cross-eye
The Don is out there, I can feel him staring a hole in my back.
*ouch* Literally.
I hate you...
:laugh:
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:41
But, if he got roleblocked (as it would appear from the write-up he did), the Don couldn't have done anything. He wouldn't have had any immunity.
(And, whomever it was who teamed up to attack him got incredibly lucky knocking him off on the first night.)
You guys are overlooking one thing. If the Don gets role-blocked, NO HIT takes place. And one most certainly did so Supes33 wasn't the Don. 'Nuff said.
I'm telling you all. The Don would not be that easy to kill. I know Peers, he clever :p He wouldn't let us just kill off the Don. At least not on the first night. We're making too big of an assumption.
Assuming he wasn't the don, then that makes him? The killer of Booster? or the killer of Breach? He came back from "enjoying the fruits of a good night's work"
He's not on the New Earth side, so he had to do something? And it's Superman he has to have some sort of night power and role. He could've been the bodyguard but what else would fit Superman.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:43
But, if he got roleblocked (as it would appear from the write-up he did), the Don couldn't have done anything. He wouldn't have had any immunity.
(And, whomever it was who teamed up to attack him got incredibly lucky knocking him off on the first night.)
I'm inclined to believe that the Mafia Don is still out there for a couple of reasons:
1) What are the chances that someone got really lucky and got him the first night? Not to mention, killing him after he was roleblocked? :noid:
2) Peers has mentioned more than once about blood being on our hands by not lynching, so to me that makes me think that he's still out there, trying to pick us all off.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:44
Assuming he wasn't the don, then that makes him? The killer of Booster? or the killer of Breach? He came back from "enjoying the fruits of a good night's work"
He's not on the New Earth side, so he had to do something? And it's Superman he has to have some sort of night power and role. He could've been the bodyguard but what else would fit Superman.
He could be the reporter. Hello, he's Clark Kent, ace reporter.
Well, it's possible that Superman-33 was in on the Booster Gold attack, I guess.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:45
But, if he got roleblocked (as it would appear from the write-up he did), the Don couldn't have done anything. He wouldn't have had any immunity.
(And, whomever it was who teamed up to attack him got incredibly lucky knocking him off on the first night.)
The odds are in favor of the Don still being alive, especially in a game as mysterious and as paranoia-inducing as this one is, so why are you trying to convince everyone that he's out of the picture?
Are you trying to cover for someone?
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:47
You know what happens when you assume.....
My question is, why are we focusing on this. We don't know ANYONE's identity, so even if the Don's dead, this early it doesn't help. All we can do is look for suspicious things, and wait for reports from our Cop and Tracker. I think we're focusing on the wrong thing, atleast this early in the game.
Ok, just so I don't seem like a complete idiot, here's my logic. If there are more than one mafia, the chances are good that us heroes are outnumbered in the big picture. If that's the case, we're going to need one mafia to team up on the other with us during the day. They'll do it without us even knowing who they are. My guess is that if each of them can kill and knowns who their allies are, then the chances of US dying at night is seriously huge. A portion of each group's known targets consists of completely heroes. We GOTTA go for the gold on this one. And I'm at elast beign consistent with Thawmus.
No I don't think Peers would have the villains outnumber the Heroes. The Mafia are way too organized as it is. If the Mafia are larger than the Townies then The Townies lose point blank. Even with two, I don't think they'll outnumber the heroes. If the pattern remains similar one will be an established Mafia, the other a Mafia that will possibly grow as the game goes on.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:48
The odds are in favor of the Don still being alive, especially in a game as mysterious and as paranoia-inducing as this one is, so why are you trying to convince everyone that he's out of the picture?
Are you trying to cover for someone?
Just curious, am I on EVERYONE's ignore list?
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:50
Just curious, am I on EVERYONE's ignore list?
I'm sorry, did someone say something?
;)
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:51
If the mafia's larger than townies, they win every lynch vote, and there's no game. There tends to be about 5 mafia members, for every 20 players. Not counting maggia, skrulls, and independents, of course.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:51
No I don't think Peers would have the villains outnumber the Heroes. The Mafia are way too organized as it is. If the Mafia are larger than the Townies then The Townies lose point blank. Even with two, I don't think they'll outnumber the heroes. If the pattern remains similar one will be an established Mafia, the other a Mafia that will possibly grow as the game goes on.
I disagree, If each amfia has 4 members to start and there are 5 independents, then we've got 12. That makes us outnumbered. Compared to each faction, we're really strong, but overall, we're outnumbered. I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:52
I'm sorry, did someone say something?
;)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:52
I disagree, If each amfia has 4 members to start and there are 5 independents, then we've got 12. That makes us outnumbered. Compared to each faction, we're really strong, but overall, we're outnumbered. I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility.
5 independents would never happen, dude. That's way to many conflicting agendas.
St-Dumas
08/17/2007, 14:52
Hi. I'd just like to remind everyone that i'm part of this game.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:53
There tends to be about 5 mafia members, for every 20 players. Not counting maggia, skrulls, and independents, of course.
That's what I'm suggesting.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:53
Hi. I'd just like to remind everyone that i'm part of this game.
Hmmm, are you the Don then? :devious:
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:53
5 independents would never happen, dude. That's way to many conflicting agendas.
Grrr, fine. 5 of each Mafia and 3 independents, happy now? :p
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:54
Hi. I'd just like to remind everyone that i'm part of this game.
So, are you saying you have an inferiority complex, and are afraid people wouldn't remember, or recognize you. Something like, idk, JOKER, would be afraid of. You're scared that the other, super powered villains will get more attention than some psycho with an acid stained face, aren't you JOKER!?!?!
Change Vote: Dumas
:p
jk
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 14:55
Grrr, fine. 5 of each Mafia and 3 independents, happy now? :p
5 mafia members left would make a total 7, which is way more than Peers has ever used.
Except independents tend to skew to the townie side. And there's no guarantee that the Mafia's start at the same size. The last two times the alt Mafia (Skrulls in game 1 and Maggia in game 2) started at size 1. Though that probably means in this one we have a 2 alt mafia members, after the first night.
St-Dumas
08/17/2007, 14:57
So, are you saying you have an inferiority complex, and are afraid people wouldn't remember, or recognize you. Something like, idk, JOKER, would be afraid of. You're scared that the other, super powered villains will get more attention than some psycho with an acid stained face, aren't you JOKER!?!?!
Change Vote: Dumas
:p
jk
No, but I do have a weird face.
The odds are in favor of the Don still being alive, especially in a game as mysterious and as paranoia-inducing as this one is, so why are you trying to convince everyone that he's out of the picture?
Are you trying to cover for someone?
Not particularly, no.
I was just tossing possibilities out there and asking questions.
Why are you so certain that he wasn't the Don? Do you know something that we don't?
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 14:58
Not particularly, no.
I was just tossing possibilities out there and asking questions.
Why are you so certain that he wasn't the Don? Do you know something that we don't?
Not really, just a hunch though. I feel its better to err on the side of caution, then to get lulled into a false sense of security.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 14:59
5 mafia members left would make a total 7, which is way more than Peers has ever used.
You're being difficult. Even if we lost 2 heroes, 1 mafia and an indy, then the total would be 4, 5, 2, 10. You're purposely misunderstanding me.
Add that to the fact that game 2 had 2 mafias "which is way more than Peers has ever used."
change vote: DocDoom187
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:00
change vote: DocDoom187
Forgot to bold it.
If everyone wants to lynch someone, why don't we do what we did last game and start with vicious x?
He's at the top of the list of remaining people, after all, and we might just get lucky -- like we did using this method of choosing victims last game -- and have him wind up being a mafia guy rather than a townie.
vicious x
08/17/2007, 15:01
List of the living
------------------------------------
Vicious x
Docdoom187
biz567
KitsuShel
KaineMak
St-Dumas
antipathy
CarlosMucha
charlesx
sstralkowski
Melkhor
Thawmus
batfink
kontrol
TMNT99
theanalogkid
Rokk_Krinn
Iron Ham
Scott Neelan
Calabolg
JacinB
we started out with 25 people,.... there is plenty of room for two mafias and the joker,... like people stated it looks like booster and supes were taken out by the mafia so I do believe that there are at least two families here with us heros :(
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:03
SS, I'm just playing the Devil's Advocate, but keep your vote for me.
I wanna see something
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:04
we started out with 25 people,.... there is plenty of room for two mafias and the joker,... like people stated it looks like booster and supes were taken out by the mafia so I do believe that there are at least two families here with us heros :(
Great, one guy agrees with me and it's the one everyone has no problem lynching. :confused: :laugh:
He's great at riddles. And these write-up sare just that.
I unfortunately have to agree with this logic. Jack's pretty much gotten killed due to his sheer brilliance. If we didn't know he was so friggin' smart, he'd probably dupe everyone until the end.
I mean, seriously, what evidence did we have that he was from a different earth, before we even got to use our night powers???
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:05
I wanna see something
Hopefully it's "what happens when you walk into the light." ;)
vicious x
08/17/2007, 15:06
while I'm in favor of lynching someone I think just randomly picking someone is a bad way to go,... since people who are not online get away with not being picked,... plus last game the mafia didn't say much it was us who did the talking and lynching we knocked ourselves out last game and could do it again,....
thanks Jacin :tired: :laugh:
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:07
I unfortunately have to agree with this logic. Jack's pretty much gotten killed due to his sheer brilliance. If we didn't know he was so friggin' smart, he'd probably dupe everyone until the end.
I mean, seriously, what evidence did we have that he was from a different earth, before we even got to use our night powers???
Agree with me all you want, I'm still watching you. ;) <--See? This is you sleeping with one eye open.
Calabolg
08/17/2007, 15:11
I'd have to agree with the multiple mafia idea. First, there's definitely enough people to fit two mafia and a few independants. Secondly, Supes33 was mafia, and he was teamkilled by someone that sounded evil. That would also imply two mafias. Finally, I'll bet it was coincidence Supes33 was killed the first night. No one had a chance to use any powers, and the only people who would kill indiscriminately would be serial killers and mafia.
I dunno, does that make sense?
Scott Neelan
08/17/2007, 15:11
So let's get what we do know out on the table right now:
1. Breach, likely independent, is dead.
2. Booster, a New Earther, is dead. Killed, most likely, by a Rolebolcker and Mafia hit combined. (Earth-33 Superman involved?)
3. Earth-33 Superman is dead, again most likely by a Roleblocker and Mafia hit combo.(Plastic Man? Wonder Woman/Supergirl? Superman/Ultraman?)
4. Robin is dead, killed as a "happy accidejnt" by most likely an independent serial killer (Joker?)
5. If we don't lynch someone, Peers says bad things are gonna happen
So, where's a tracker/cop when you need one?
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:15
So, where's a tracker/cop when you need one?
Laying low so they don't get tag-teamed tonight.
vicious x
08/17/2007, 15:15
we need to see what our cop/tracer have,... but if we are going to randomly pick someone, someone said this last game, lets go after someone who is not online,... if we are going to take out a hero might as well take out a hero that is not giving us input. but I rather wait to see what info we get from the cop/tracer,....
I tell you, the thought processes I've seen here are almost enough to make me wish I really had gone into psychology...
Ok, just so I don't seem like a complete idiot, here's my logic. If there are more than one mafia, the chances are good that us heroes are outnumbered in the big picture. If that's the case, we're going to need one mafia to team up on the other with us during the day. They'll do it without us even knowing who they are. My guess is that if each of them can kill and knowns who their allies are, then the chances of US dying at night is seriously huge. A portion of each group's known targets consists of completely heroes. We GOTTA go for the gold on this one. And I'm at elast beign consistent with Thawmus.
Okay, lady and gentlemen, it's time for us to finally pick a direction.
I tracked you last night, sstral, just like I said I would. You know me, I like to hide in plain sight. I WASN'T bluffing when I said I'd track you last night.
Here's what I know: You didn't do anything. You didn't go anywhere, you didn't track anyone, and you didn't protect anyone.
Now why would you do that? Could it be because I hinted that I'd follow you last night, and you wanted to subvert any suspicion by doing nothing at all?
Furthermore, I happen to know that your buddy saw me last night, following you. So your friend told you it was me, and now you're "Being consistent."
Right. :rolleyes:
Vote: Sstralkowski
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:17
No one had a chance to use any powers, and the only people who would kill indiscriminately would be serial killers and mafia.
I dunno, does that make sense?
To me, that makes LOT of sense. And is a very good point.
If he was role blocked and then killed, its most probably another mafia, considering the teamwork involved.
Also, peers, remember last game you said you'd link every day and night phase to the first post. Just a reminder
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:17
we need to see what our cop/tracer have,... but if we are going to randomly pick someone, someone said this last game, lets go after someone who is not online,... if we are going to take out a hero might as well take out a hero that is not giving us input. but I rather wait to see what info we get from the cop/tracer,....
They're not gonna reveal anything, even with a doc's protection. They know that BOTH mafias have a roleblocker/killer combo so outing yourself on day 2 would be foolish. Better to roll the dice and see what happens. Lynching someone who's offline could have it's advantages though. My vote stays for now.
Without putting too much out there, I know that there is at least one cop on our team. I also know that he hasn't been around, yet, to tell us what, if anything, he found out last night.
vicious x
08/17/2007, 15:18
what about johnny thunder, being apart of supes kill,... thunder being pure magic right?
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:19
Okay, lady and gentlemen, it's time for us to finally pick a direction.
I tracked you last night, sstral, just like I said I would. You know me, I like to hide in plain sight. I WASN'T bluffing when I said I'd track you last night.
Here's what I know: You didn't do anything. You didn't go anywhere, you didn't track anyone, and you didn't protect anyone.
Now why would you do that? Could it be because I hinted that I'd follow you last night, and you wanted to subvert any suspicion by doing nothing at all?
Furthermore, I happen to know that your buddy saw me last night, following you. So your friend told you it was me, and now you're "Being consistent."
Right. :rolleyes:
Vote: Sstralkowski
Hey genius, I changed my vote...even repeated it in bold. Now who's suspicious?
Now I have to ask if I'm on everybody's ignore list.....:(
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:19
Okay, lady and gentlemen, it's time for us to finally pick a direction.
I tracked you last night, sstral, just like I said I would. You know me, I like to hide in plain sight. I WASN'T bluffing when I said I'd track you last night.
Here's what I know: You didn't do anything. You didn't go anywhere, you didn't track anyone, and you didn't protect anyone.
Now why would you do that? Could it be because I hinted that I'd follow you last night, and you wanted to subvert any suspicion by doing nothing at all?
Furthermore, I happen to know that your buddy saw me last night, following you. So your friend told you it was me, and now you're "Being consistent."
Right. :rolleyes:
Vote: Sstralkowski
Uhh... Thawmus./ He might not have a night power. He could be a duo, with 2 votes being his power, or he could have some kind of night protection. There's plenty of powers that would cause a player NOT to target anyone at night, and still be a Townie.
Hey genius, I changed my vote...even repeated it in bold. Now who's suspicious?
Since when? I've looked through the thread. It's been "Thawmus" all the way through.
What could another vote change hurt, if I'm wrong?
Thawmus' word works for me because, frankly, if he's wrong or lying, we can kill him tomorrow.
Change vote: sstralkowski.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:20
Without putting too much out there, I know that there is at least one cop on our team. I also know that he hasn't been around, yet, to tell us what, if anything, he found out last night.
Its possible he targeted a dead man, and doesn't want to out himself until he has something useful
St-Dumas
08/17/2007, 15:20
Someone please tell me who I should boot off.
Taken care of. My vote: sstralkowski.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:21
Thawmus' word works for me because, frankly, if he's wrong or lying, we can kill him tomorrow.
Change vote: sstralkowski.
Kinda sounds independent, huh?
Wait for a lynch vote, jump in, and then when the player dies, kill someone else the next day.
We know for a fact there is a Joker and the Joker will keep killing until put down.
I vote for lynching.
There are people signed up who haven't been heard from lately. Is that because they're busy or planning our demise? :noid:
I vote to lynch Rokk-Krinn
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:22
Hey genius, I changed my vote...even repeated it in bold. Now who's suspicious?
I like your style though. Aggressive yet logical. Course, could be that you're lying. And if you're not then, with all the blockings/killings, why would you conclude that someone who did nothing was one of the baddies and not just someone without powers?
Someone please tell me who I should boot off.
Taken care of. My vote: sstralkowski.
Vote for yourself
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:22
Would everyone please read my previous post before another "Rattler" incident.
I can think of 4 powers off the top of my head, that wouldn't require the player to do ANYTHING at night.
Uhh... Thawmus./ He might not have a night power. He could be a duo, with 2 votes being his power, or he could have some kind of night protection. There's plenty of powers that would cause a player NOT to target anyone at night, and still be a Townie.
That may be true, but if he was a townie, and had zero information on the table, he would NOT vote for someone right away. I also find it suspicious that the guy who tracked him last night is suddenly his lynching victim. And on top of this, there was another tracker following him.
He's far too suspicious to me at this point to let it slide as just having no night powers.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:24
Since when? I've looked through the thread. It's been "Thawmus" all the way through.
What could another vote change hurt, if I'm wrong?
Post #'s 173 & 174 in this thread.
vicious x
08/17/2007, 15:24
Okay, lady and gentlemen, it's time for us to finally pick a direction.
I tracked you last night, sstral, just like I said I would. You know me, I like to hide in plain sight. I WASN'T bluffing when I said I'd track you last night.
Here's what I know: You didn't do anything. You didn't go anywhere, you didn't track anyone, and you didn't protect anyone.
Now why would you do that? Could it be because I hinted that I'd follow you last night, and you wanted to subvert any suspicion by doing nothing at all?
Furthermore, I happen to know that your buddy saw me last night, following you. So your friend told you it was me, and now you're "Being consistent."
Right. :rolleyes:
Vote: Sstralkowski
Vote Sstralkowski
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:25
Thawmus' word works for me because, frankly, if he's wrong or lying, we can kill him tomorrow.
Change vote: sstralkowski.
Yeah, that's what a true mafia man would say. :devious:
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:25
I think, it would greatly benefit Ss to role claim right now. If he doesn't he'll get lynched, most certainly. I know its generally a horrible idea, but atleast if he gets killed at night cuz of his role claim, we didn't do it.
Agreed?
what about johnny thunder, being apart of supes kill,... thunder being pure magic right?
Technically, he's an imp from the same dimension as Mxylpltk. And, I don't see a hero team randomly striking in the night to kill someone (though, it did happen on the first night of the last game, too).
Though, that does open an interesting can of worms.
Mxylpltk -- depending on what powers he might have -- might account for some or all of the hit on Superman-33 ...
vicious x
08/17/2007, 15:26
change to no lynch
Thawmus' word works for me because, frankly, if he's wrong or lying, we can kill him tomorrow.
Change vote: sstralkowski.
Kill the tracker? Okey dokey.
I've said all I can say on the matter. He did nothing last night. Absolutely nothing. And another tracker was watching him as well.
If that means he's a townie with a day power, so be it.
But he's done nothing to clear his name thus far.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:26
Yeah, that's what a true mafia man would say. :devious:
That or an Independent. I know cuz I used that logic on Scott Neelan to get him lynched, and end the game last time. Remember?
CarlosMucha
08/17/2007, 15:27
I'm here! I'm here!
I have to go to work but I'm back in night!
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:27
Does anyone have any issues with Ss role claiming right now? Either way he dies.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:28
By either way, i mean either hes lynched, or hes a target at night, and theres no chance of surviving a lynch, while there's a good chance of surviving night phases.
Its possible he targeted a dead man, and doesn't want to out himself until he has something useful
Incorrect. Trust me.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 15:29
Does anyone have any issues with Ss role claiming right now? Either way he dies.
Ummm, okkkkk. How do you see the few votes he has as dying? Sure he has a couple of votes, but I don't see him getting lynched on such short evidence.
Roleclaiming sucks, honestly. It takes the fun and guess work out of it.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:29
That may be true, but if he was a townie, and had zero information on the table, he would NOT vote for someone right away. I also find it suspicious that the guy who tracked him last night is suddenly his lynching victim. And on top of this, there was another tracker following him.
He's far too suspicious to me at this point to let it slide as just having no night powers.
You're just sore someone saw you tracking me. :laugh: I explained my reasoning for wanting a lynch in the first place, and you know what? It got us info like we needed, you claim to be a tracker. Voting for people to be lynched gets things done. It forces people to reveal things, and being someone having "zero information" as you put it, that's a good thing for me. My consistency stands.
Also, being the only person to vote for a lynch in day 1 gains some attention. Is it possible that someone else just had the same idea you did?
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:30
Ummm, okkkkk. How do you see the few votes he has as dying? Sure he has a couple of votes, but I don't see him getting lynched on such short evidence.
Roleclaiming sucks, honestly. It takes the fun and guess work out of it.
Shel, you've been in every mafia game, you know as well as anyone, onc3e you get 5 or 6 votes, it tends to lead to 10 pretty fast.
And, Jacin, how would you know unless you're the tracker who tracked the cop and saw who he targeted, or the cop himself. Either way you should share your information.
KitsuShel
08/17/2007, 15:31
Shel, you've been in every mafia game, you know as well as anyone, onc3e you get 5 or 6 votes, it tends to lead to 10 pretty fast.
But remember, this is a much bigger game this time around!
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:32
Does anyone have any issues with Ss role claiming right now? Either way he dies.
Not gonna happen, man. I've got more pride than that. I'll die silent. Then you'll all be sorry.
And we have time, I think. Let a couple more people chime in before we get to lynching.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:34
And, Jacin, how would you know unless you're the tracker who tracked the cop and saw who he targeted, or the cop himself. Either way you should share your information.
That's quite a possibility. The power of suggestion is huge. If someone has NOTHING to go on, and Thawmus received the only vote in day 1, then it's possible that he was the first name to come to mind to someone who tracked him. Could be Jacin, maybe not. If it WAS Jacin, then he'd support lynching me knowing it'd lead to the death of a townie tracker.
And, Jacin, how would you know unless you're the tracker who tracked the cop and saw who he targeted, or the cop himself. Either way you should share your information.
You need to keep in mind that just because you're a lone wolf doesn't mean everyone is.
You don't think Robin had 'friends' here?
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:35
Lynch Jacin
The past two games, Peers himself could say, So and So is mafia, and Jacin would have to take time to think it out before voting, but here, all of a sudden hes all for lynching Ss, and THEN killing Thawmus if SS is a good guy,.
VERY uncharacteristic
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:36
You need to keep in mind that just because you're a lone wolf doesn't mean everyone is.
You don't think Robin had 'friends' here?
Who says I'm a lone wolf:rolleyes:
And thats a good point
Change vote no lynch
for now
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:37
Lynch Jacin
The past two games, Peers himself could say, So and So is mafia, and Jacin would have to take time to think it out before voting, but here, all of a sudden hes all for lynching Ss, and THEN killing Thawmus if SS is a good guy,.
VERY uncharacteristic
Yeah, as much as I suspect you, Your logic makes sense. Still keeping my vote you though since you wanted me to. :laugh:
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:38
Yeah, as much as I suspect you, Your logic makes sense. Still keeping my vote you though since you wanted me to. :laugh:
Its uncharacteristic, but I don't think we can afford to lose Jacin this early. If he is a good guy, hes a pretty valuable asset
And you can change your vote if you want, nothing happened.
Who says I'm a lone wolf:rolleyes:
Well, we could always track you tonight and find out ...
Not gonna happen, man. I've got more pride than that. I'll die silent. Then you'll all be sorry.
I heard the same thing from all the mafia we lynched last game.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:40
Well, we could always track you tonight and find out ...
I know from personal experience as a tracker, that all you find out is who your target targetted. So tracking me wouldn't tell you if i have a teammate.
Wait a minute, I WAS ON YOUR TEAM as a tracker, you should know that! :p
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:40
Well, we could always track you tonight and find out ...
You could. Or you could track an inactive member and see if they're just faking silence or if they're being stealthy on purpose.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:41
I heard the same thing from all the mafia we lynched last game.
Well, not totally. Antipathy looked up an obscure villain on wiki to role claim :p
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:41
I heard the same thing from all the mafia we lynched last game.
Well then you're in for a treat, cause there's a first time for everything.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:42
You could. Or you could track an inactive member and see if they're just faking silence or if they're being stealthy on purpose.
Well, obviously they're PMing, or else we wouldn't have had an early day phase, it would have gone to the limit
vicious x
08/17/2007, 15:42
And we have time, I think. Let a couple more people chime in before we get to lynching.
agreed,... even if we lynch someone now, we will not have another phase until monday,... might aswell listen to other people otherwise the mafia would just sit still and let us take eachother out,... lets not forget the "Rattler" incident. til this I wear a Rattler Strong wrist braclet next to my WristStrong braclet :p
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:44
Well, obviously they're PMing, or else we wouldn't have had an early day phase, it would have gone to the limit
Not if they don't HAVE a targetting ability. Peers doesn't wait for those people to PM him.
Lynch Jacin
The past two games, Peers himself could say, So and So is mafia, and Jacin would have to take time to think it out before voting, but here, all of a sudden hes all for lynching Ss, and THEN killing Thawmus if SS is a good guy,.
VERY uncharacteristic
Let me take a moment to point out two things here.
First, you were on my team in the past two mafia games. Once because Peers put you there, once because Shel did.
Neither time did you play particularly well, and you tended to talk far too much without knowing what you were actually talking about (see also: argument with Thawmus in Mafia II, outright lying about having information about me at the beginning of that game, etc.).
Second, both games, I won. So, perhaps its a good idea to listen to my thinking, rather than your rambling.
As it stands right now, knowing what I know about your gameplay after having been your teammate twice, and knowing how it changes when you have something to hide, I'd say that you're the most suspicious person here.
However, rather than jump on the 'Lynch DocDoom187' bandwagon, tonight someone is going to investigate you before I throw your name up for nomination.
Why? Because I think every play in this game through before doing anything.
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:45
agreed,... even if we lynch someone now, we will not have another phase until monday,... might aswell listen to other people otherwise the mafia would just sit still and let us take eachother out,... lets not forget the "Rattler" incident. til this I wear a Rattler Strong wrist braclet next to my WristStrong braclet :p
I'll wear a StrongBad Bracelet, ok?
Well then you're in for a treat, cause there's a first time for everything.
No, you're mistaken. This won't be a first. But if you are a hero, and you're not going to do anything to clear your name, (I mean, seriously, the evidence stacked against you is pretty small, if meaningless), then I don't really have any other choice but to retain my vote.
And we didn't cry for the last townie we killed accidentally, did we, Vicious? :p
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:47
Let me take a moment to point out two things here.
First, you were on my team in the past two mafia games. Once because Peers put you there, once because Shel did.
Neither time did you play particularly well, and you tended to talk far too much without knowing what you were actually talking about (see also: argument with Thawmus in Mafia II, outright lying about having information about me at the beginning of that game, etc.).
Second, both games, I won. So, perhaps its a good idea to listen to my thinking, rather than your rambling.
As it stands right now, knowing what I know about your gameplay after having been your teammate twice, and knowing how it changes when you have something to hide, I'd say that you're the most suspicious person here.
However, rather than jump on the 'Lynch DocDoom187' bandwagon, tonight someone is going to investigate you before I throw your name up for nomination.
Why? Because I think every play in this game through before doing anything.
Alright so explain the in-depth thought process behind agreeing with Thawmus.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:47
Let me take a moment to point out two things here.
First, you were on my team in the past two mafia games. Once because Peers put you there, once because Shel did.
Neither time did you play particularly well, and you tended to talk far too much without knowing what you were actually talking about (see also: argument with Thawmus in Mafia II, outright lying about having information about me at the beginning of that game, etc.).
Second, both games, I won. So, perhaps its a good idea to listen to my thinking, rather than your rambling.
As it stands right now, knowing what I know about your gameplay after having been your teammate twice, and knowing how it changes when you have something to hide, I'd say that you're the most suspicious person here.
However, rather than jump on the 'Lynch DocDoom187' bandwagon, tonight someone is going to investigate you before I throw your name up for nomination.
Why? Because I think every play in this game through before doing anything.
A)You're getting a lil personal there, don't you think
B)I changed my vote
C)only once did i "ta;k far too much" and that was because i didn't read the whole thread, and saw a threat to the Don of the maggia, and tried to protect her, not realizing it was solved. Afterwards, i made sure to read every post
D)Cool your jets man. Your acting like it was a personal affront. Its a game
sstralkowski
08/17/2007, 15:48
No, you're mistaken. This won't be a first. But if you are a hero, and you're not going to do anything to clear your name, (I mean, seriously, the evidence stacked against you is pretty small, if meaningless), then I don't really have any other choice but to retain my vote.
Fair enough. You'll see.
And we didn't cry for the last townie we killed accidentally, did we, Vicious? :p
Yeah, but he was the Rattler. I mean, who cares?
Fair enough. You'll see.
If you're mafia, this sounds like you're giving up.
If you're a hero, I'm gonna be kinda pissed that you didn't defend yourself. How are we going to get anywhere in this if we don't push each other's buttons????
Yeah, but he was the Rattler. I mean, who cares?
Well, after reading how his power worked, I do now. I really don't want to lose anyone valuable. But I only have this much information, and I'm going to draw a conclusion from it. You should be trying to show me the error of my logic, so that I don't make a mistake here, and you're just giving up.
Alright so explain the in-depth thought process behind agreeing with Thawmus.
Because, as it stands, Thawmus has -- essentially -- claimed to have a tracking ability. He has also claimed things about you which, if true, would make you suspect.
By lynching you today, we reveal whether or not Thawmus told the truth.
If he did, then he's clear and eliminated as a suspect (at least, for a few days) and we can focus on other folks.
If he didn't, which we should be able to determine by your death, then he becomes a prime suspect for tomorrow as it makes it appear that he lied to get you killed. Then, at that point, he is forced to either reveal more information about himself, which people can judge to be true or untrue based upon what has previously occured, or face the gallows himself.
Your death sets the ball rolling.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:53
Yea. SS by not role claiming, your hurting US, if you really are a Hero.
DocDoom187
08/17/2007, 15:55
Because, as it stands, Thawmus has -- essentially -- claimed to have a tracking ability. He has also claimed things about you which, if true, would make you suspect.
By lynching you today, we reveal whether or not Thawmus told the truth.
If he did, then he's clear and eliminated as a suspect (at least, for a few days) and we can focus on other folks.
If he didn't, which we should be able to determine by your death, then he becomes a prime suspect for tomorrow as it makes it appear that he lied to get you killed. Then, at that point, he is forced to either reveal more information about himself, which people can judge to be true or untrue based upon what has previously occured, or face the gallows himself.
Your death sets the ball rolling.
But if Thawmus is wrong, it could just be he misinterpreted what happened last night. And the we'd lose 2 heroes, one of which is a tracker.
Sstralkowski doing nothing is not concrete proof of him being a mafia member. As for him voting Thawmus, he could have just taken a bad guess.
vicious x
08/17/2007, 15:57
And we didn't cry for the last townie we killed accidentally, did we, Vicious? :p
*looks at Rattler strong braclet* as a single tear comes down the side of his cheek
I played the role accurately since he is a thug that wanted power,... besides the three people that I voted to lynch were all together :p
Your death sets the ball rolling.
In reality , Peers death got the ball rolling. :grin:
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