Star Wars Mafia game [Archive]

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 10:43

we have 24 players:

sstralkowski
KitSuShel
Lobstrosity
CrusaderC
RCricket55
xlr1926
OICU812
charlesx
theanalogkid
Rokk Krinn
JackAssterson
IronHam
ZombieStomper
ThanosGuy
FinFangFoom
DarqFeonix
Thawmus
Lensnart
Doombot3.1
Screaming Banshee
Antipathy
Scarlet Witch
Cornucopia
Jackofhearts2005

This thread will get locked during night phases so that no talking will be permitted. Sorry that no one will be able to talk here for 24 hours, but its the rules. Do not post ANYTHING here once you are "dead".

Please put all lynch votes in BOLD (highlight your vote and hit that B button up there for the newbies ;) )

Never show emails or PMs from me to anyone in the game. Quoting your PM to prove your innocence is strictly forbidden.

Do not discuss the game with other players outside of the thread unless you are allowed, and only do that at night.

Basic Story:

It a time of galactic unrest. The Rebellion grows stronger day by day. The Empire is seeking vengeance for the destruction of their Death Star. Plans begin secretly for the construction of a second. The Rebel base on Hoth has been destroyed and the Empire is searching for their new location. Lord Vader is still searching for his son Luke. And has laid a trap for him on Bespin, the city in the clouds. The small evil force of the Imperials has blocked all exits from the city. The large group of Rebels and city dwellers are stuck in the city.

Opening Scene:
Day 1
Bespin, the city in the clouds, comes alive bright and early as usual. Except this is no ordinary day. There has been a murder. During the night, someone got into an argument and was killed in the fountain at the center of the city. The victim? Kitster Banai. Was he killed for getting in the way of the Empire? Or was he killed for alerting them to the presence of the Rebel Alliance? Only time will tell. All we know for sure is that the man is dead. Many are seen heading to the cantina to have some jawa juice and drink away the pain.

Eliminated: Kitster Banai: smuggler, scoundrel, childhood friend of Anakin Skywalker aka m_a_caque

Day phase has begun. This phase will last 24hrs, even if a lynching majority is reached prior to the time limit.

With 24 players it will take 13 votes to reach a majority.

Doombot 3.1

08/20/2007, 10:46

VOTE: No Lynch

Unless, of course, someone has a good argument for lynching somebody.

Thawmus

08/20/2007, 10:56

Day one, go with the usual: No lynch

OICU812

08/20/2007, 10:58

Scarlet Witch

08/20/2007, 11:03

Vote-No Lynch

Thanosguy

08/20/2007, 11:03

Not sure I'm ready to make a lynch vote just yet, but take a look around us! They've got us trapped in the city like animals... trying to starve us out! This is not a time for diplomacy or caution. I think we need to start ousting the Empire!
Except for the fact that we have no clues and may end up lynching a Rebel if we just blindly guess.

No lynch.

charlesx

08/20/2007, 11:04

Meesa vote-ah bombad NO LYNCHY!

(Please note that I am not really a Gungan! :) )

OICU812

08/20/2007, 11:07

Except for the fact that we have no clues and may end up lynching a Rebel if we just blindly guess.

Yep... agreed Thanos... but I'm getting my ropes warmed up meanwhile!

No lynch.

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 11:09

The odds of the mafia winning this one are 3,720 to 1.

So, now we know who's C390 and on general principle - whether Lightside or Darkside - I'm afraid we're all forced to kill him. He is, after all, the abandoned toy of Vader and thus part of the path to the Darkside but also aids the Rebels. He's just bad mojo. :laugh:

Lobstrosity

08/20/2007, 11:13

Forget this no lynch Gungan dung. Let's get this party (and get some actual converstion) started.

I vote to lynch JackAssterson

Thawmus

08/20/2007, 11:14

Forget this no lynch Gungan dung. Let's get this party (and get some actual converstion) started.

I vote to lynch JackAssterson

Hey, I'd kinda like to see Jack make it past the 1st night, for once.

Change the vote, man.

KitsuShel

08/20/2007, 11:16

In that case, just a bit of advice. If anyone says to you, "I love you," the proper response to give is, "I know." :p

Oh, come on. I have seen the movies a couple of times, you know. :cheeky:

Doombot 3.1

08/20/2007, 11:16

Forget this no lynch Gungan dung. Let's get this party (and get some actual converstion) started.

I vote to lynch JackAssterson

Jack never lives past the first day or two in a Mafia game. He'll probably die soon enough even regardless of whether we lynch him. :laugh:

KitsuShel

08/20/2007, 11:16

Oh, and no lynch.

charlesx

08/20/2007, 11:17

Oh, come on. I have seen the movies a couple of times, you know. :cheeky:

I know. ;)

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 11:20

no lynch:Doombot3.1, Thawmus, Scarlet Witch, Thanosguy, Charlesx, Oicu812, Kitsushel (7)
JackAssterson:Lobstrosity (1)

JackAssterson

08/20/2007, 11:32

Vote: No lynch

While there is a certain logic to voting for a lynch first round (we have a small chance of getting mafia, while they have no chance of killing their own) I've never been one to go the witchunt route.

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 11:49

Yet you know some of the people crying "No Lynch" are Mafia because they know whom one another is and, therefore, we should try picking a few names and see who is most vehemently defended. :)

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 11:51

8 votes for no lynch.

13 needed for majority.

When Kitster was found, he was there with a helmet beside him with a for sale sign tagged on it.
Someone looked inside and saw the name Annie written in it.

JackAssterson

08/20/2007, 11:53

8 votes for no lynch.

Someone looked inside and saw the name Annie written in it.

And a strand of red hair...and half a locket...then the weather report came on...apparantly, the sun'll come out.

Tomorrow.

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 11:58

And a strand of red hair...and half a locket...then the weather report came on...apparantly, the sun'll come out.

Tomorrow.

lol too funny. but not that annie.

Cornucopia

08/20/2007, 12:38

Vote-No Lynch

Jackofhearts2005

08/20/2007, 12:45

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 13:19

In a further string to try and drag out "teams" by seeing who supports who, I'm going to vote...

Lynch Vote: Jackofhearts2005

Lobstrosity

08/20/2007, 13:20

Vote: Kitsushel

She doesn't know enough Star Wars references and when the mafia kills someone tonight, Peers will show up and tell people that voted no lynch that the blood is on their hands.

So ha. You guys will all have stains on your gloves and mine will still be clean. :grin:

Exactly! Someone else that doesn't go along with the herd! I know you pansies aren't going to lynch someone today anyway, so let's throw some names out there and see how they react. The only way anything is going to happen is by by actual conversation. After all, there are plenty of people out there (like me) that can't investigate others at night, so how else will we tell who is good, bad, or indifferent?

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 13:24

no lynch (9)
jackAssterson(1)
Kitsushel(1)
JackofHearts2005(1)

still need 13 for a majority

(edit-added jackofhearts)

RCricket55

08/20/2007, 13:26

Vote: No lynch

lensnart

08/20/2007, 13:29

The only way we are going to learn who's who is to start lynching.

Vote: Jack Assterton

Fin Fang Foom

08/20/2007, 13:29

The only way anything is going to happen is by by actual conversation. After all, there are plenty of people out there (like me) that can't investigate others at night, so how else will we tell who is good, bad, or indifferent?

I vote to lynch Lobstrosity for trying liechology this early in the game.

Jackofhearts2005

08/20/2007, 13:30

In a further string to try and drag out "teams" by seeing who supports who, I'm going to vote...

Lynch Vote: Jackofhearts2005
Honestly, nobody is going to support me but me.

For my teammates (if they exist) to support me, it would mean outing themselves, not to mention making all of us (if there is an "all of us") look like we are in the mafia, since it is the only group that everyone here knows exists.

Combine that with the imminent "no lynch" result and nobody really has anything to fear today.

You'll have to get within a few votes for anyone to support their teammates. Then, you'll lynch them cause they could be part of the mafia.

Or what if they don't have anyone stick up for them? Will you know they have no team? Or is their team just laying low? Are you willing to lynch someone based on nobody sticking up for them?

I mean, its a good idea to try to figure out who is with who by voting to lynch someone....I just don't think its gonna work today.

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 13:31

no lynch (10)
JackAssterson (2)
Kitsushel (1)
Jackofhearts2005 (1)
Lobstrosity (1)

Jackofhearts2005

08/20/2007, 13:32

Read the above statement with an emphasis on the word "today." ;)

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 13:33

riddle me this...

why do jedi grow up to be so big and strong?

DarqFeonix

08/20/2007, 13:35

I too am no fan of not lynching goodness.

Vote: Antipathy

Why? Name just sounds evil...

/says the man with 'dark' in his name...

KitsuShel

08/20/2007, 13:36

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 13:37

no lynch (10)
JackAssterson (2)
Kitsushel (1)
Jackofhearts2005 (1)
Lobstrosity (1)
Antipathy (1)

we've heard from 16 of the 24...

Fin Fang Foom

08/20/2007, 13:37

For the same reason Italian mothers are so strong...from raising dumbells!

Fin Fang Foom

08/20/2007, 13:39

riddle me this...

why do jedi grow up to be so big and strong?

for the same reason italian mothers are so strong...from raising dumbells!

Doombot 3.1

08/20/2007, 13:39

A lot of these calls for lynching so-and-so are based on the assumption that there isn't any other way to figure out who's mafia and who's a townie. That assumption doesn't work in the Mafia games on hcrealms because everybody has some sort of night power, and quite a few of them are going to be trackers/cop/other investigators.

Yes, there are statistical studies of mafia games that indicate that lynching someone on the first day is a sound strategy. But those studies look at games where (1) there is no cop, or (2) there's only 1 cop, the mafia, and a bunch of townies with no special night abilities. Under those circumstances, it makes sense to start lynching right away because there are so few means of getting information.

But that simply isn't the case with this game, and therefore, the strategy of lynching someone on the first day isn't going to work as well. Indeed, it may backfire horrifically if we manage to string up a cop or tracker.
And, based on my experience in Peers' mafia games, I've seen quite a few instances where people have been lynched, even after telling the truth about their roles, just because it's so hard to stop the lynching bandwagon once it starts going.

If that doesn't convince you, consider this. The Mafia benefits if we force people to start roleclaiming. It helps them figure out who they need to kill. Some of those people voting to lynch so-and-so could very well be Mafia members trying to force people to divulge information.

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 13:40

Can we just get 3 more votes to get to the night phase?

due to some players only having home access and some only having work access to th internet, i have to keep the phases at the full amount of hours so everyone can have their voice heard, and/or night phase stuff done.

so we can talk till we are blue in the face... or just shut up till tomorrow morning at 9:43am. :laugh:

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 13:41

for the same reason italian mothers are so strong...from raising dumbells!

not quite. possibly close though.

Lobstrosity

08/20/2007, 13:41

I vote to lynch Lobstrosity for trying liechology this early in the game.

Point 1 - Don't forget to "bold" your vote when you want to lynch.

Point 2 - I am not lying about not being able to investigate people at night. I don't have that ability.

I am merely stating the facts so we can have something to discuss. We need to do this to find out the good guys from the bad. Who are the good guys, anyway? The rebels? The empire? Only the moderator knows. I frankly don't care either way. As long as the profits keep rolling in, that is all I care about.

Jackofhearts2005

08/20/2007, 13:42

I too am no fan of not lynching goodness.

Vote: Antipathy

Why? Name just sounds evil...

/says the man with 'dark' in his name...
I'll have you know that despite his perhaps evil sounding name, Antipathy is a fair trader and a respected member of the realms. :angry:

Oh noes! I just let everyone know me and Antipathy are on a team!

We'll play the "see what we can find out by votes" game tomorrow, when we have a leg to stand on.

Change Vote: No Lynch

It's because I love you, Shel.

Jackofhearts2005

08/20/2007, 13:46

The Mafia benefits if we force people to start roleclaiming. It helps them figure out who they need to kill. Some of those people voting to lynch so-and-so could very well be Mafia members trying to force people to divulge information.
Thats the other reason I don't really want to lynch anyone today.

Tomorrow, it'll be more useful. A cop could vote to lynch a known mafia member without admiting he knows the guy is in the mafia, but right now, we are more likely to kill/out a good guy than a bad guy.

Doombot 3.1

08/20/2007, 13:46

By my count, we need only 2 more for "No Lynch" to make it to the night phase, when our cops/trackers/investigators can start gathering information.

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 13:47

no lynch (11)
JackAssterson (2)
Jackofhearts2005 (1)
Lobstrosity (1)
Antipathy (1)

we've heard from 16 of the 24...

Doombot 3.1

08/20/2007, 13:48

Thats the other reason I don't really want to lynch anyone today.

Tomorrow, it'll be more useful. A cop could vote to lynch a known mafia member without admiting he knows the guy is in the mafia, but right now, we are more likely to kill/out a good guy than a bad guy.

Agreed. The mafia is more likely to benefit from a first day lynch.

Iron Ham

08/20/2007, 13:54

Vote no LYNCHY

Doombot 3.1

08/20/2007, 13:55

Come on, one more "no lynch" vote, and it's night!

JackAssterson

08/20/2007, 14:06

riddle me this...

why do jedi grow up to be so big and strong?

'Cause they're always forced to eat their vegetables?

Their diets are strictly on the lite side?

Eh, gimme time.

JackAssterson

08/20/2007, 14:22

They drink midi-chlorinated water?

:noid:

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 14:24

'Cause they're always forced to eat their vegetables?

Their diets are strictly on the lite side?

Eh, gimme time.

close enough...

because their mothers FORCE feed them.

bwa ha ha

riddle me this...

what is a jedi's favorite car?

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 14:24

no lynch (12)
JackAssterson (2)
Jackofhearts2005 (1)
Lobstrosity (1)
Antipathy (1)

we've heard from 17 of the 24...

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 14:26

For the same reason Italian mothers are so strong...from raising dumbells!

I'm sorry but are ethnic jokes now allowed on the board?

JackAssterson

08/20/2007, 14:28

what is a jedi's favorite car?

lesabre.

fillerfiller

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 14:30

Overall, I agree with Jackofhearts2005's comments...I just felt like immediately diving into "No Lynch" instead of, say, focusing on one person and seeing what would happen (and if I had thrown in with a previous lynch vote I would have been accused of being Mafia teaming up with someone :) ).

I do find it interesting that Jack notes that he might very well have teammates... :noid:

Still, no point in standing in front of the inevitable and slowing down the game (and maybe it'll stop the stupid ethnic comments if we move into Night Phase):

Change Vote: No Lynch

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 14:42

no lynch (13)
JackAssterson (2)
Lobstrosity (1)
Antipathy (1)

we've heard from 17 of the 24...

a majority has been reached. No Lynch. but we aren't starting the night phase until tomorrow morning.

i know some players have not had a chance to even see this thread yet...

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 14:43

lesabre.

not bad but no

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 14:45

Well, if we're going to be a bit longer while we wait for people to play catch up does that mean there's time to change our votes? :)

Thawmus

08/20/2007, 15:06

Ooh, oooh, let me in on the fun!

Vote change: macaque

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 15:11

Well, if we're going to be a bit longer while we wait for people to play catch up does that mean there's time to change our votes? :)

hadn't thought about it. but yea since the phase will last 24 hrs, majority at the end of the time period. if there is no majority reached, then no one is lynched.

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 15:14

Ooh, oooh, let me in on the fun!

Vote change: macaque

voting to lynch a dead man? thats just mean!

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 15:15

Well, in the meantime then I think people are onto something so...

Lynch Vote Change: JackAssterson

Thawmus

08/20/2007, 15:16

voting to lynch a dead man? thats just mean!

It won't be the first time! Nor the last!

Now shut up, corpse!! This will be completely painless!

Thawmus

08/20/2007, 15:17

Well, in the meantime then I think people are onto something so...

Lynch Vote Change: JackAssterson

Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for pressing people for information, but are we really going to get anything out of the Riddler this way? :laugh:

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 15:24

Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for pressing people for information, but are we really going to get anything out of the Riddler this way? :laugh:

A fun riddle? :)

Besides, we'll threaten to let Jar-Jar loose in the Finger Junkyard during the process. That'll get ol' Edward to start talking! :devious:

OICU812

08/20/2007, 15:26

I vote to choke macaque!!!

Wait a minute...

Thawmus

08/20/2007, 15:28

I vote to choke macaque!!!

Wait a minute...

Yeah, that sounds pretty horrible, really.

You might want to keep that to yourself.

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 15:29

I vote to choke macaque!!!

Wait a minute...

So Carlos is now using multiple user-ID's?

Doombot 3.1

08/20/2007, 15:31

Well, in the meantime then I think people are onto something so...

Lynch Vote Change: JackAssterson

Poor Jack can never catch a break in these mafia games. :cheeky:

Thawmus

08/20/2007, 15:37

Poor Jack can never catch a break in these mafia games. :cheeky:

Yeah, just a small request, but can we let Jack live to see the second day, for once? Y'know, just a thought. I know he's dangerous to have around, what with being a master of riddles and all, but it might be more fun to have him alive, rather than kill him.

Just a thought.

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 15:38

no lynch (12)
JackAssterson (3)
Lobstrosity (1)
Antipathy (1)

we've heard from 17 of the 24...

no majority currently, need 13 votes

3 more votes for me to lynch macaque :laugh:

Thawmus

08/20/2007, 15:42

3 more votes for me to lynch macaque :laugh:

Okay, seriously, who isn't on this bandwagon yet? :angry:

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 15:43

no guesses for the car?

ok hint:

it has a character's name in it... kind of

RCricket55

08/20/2007, 15:44

Yeah, that sounds pretty horrible, really.

You might want to keep that to yourself.

you missed out on pages of macaque jokes in the previous game. Wait til we get warmed up.

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 15:49

Yeah, just a small request, but can we let Jack live to see the second day, for once? Y'know, just a thought. I know he's dangerous to have around, what with being a master of riddles and all, but it might be more fun to have him alive, rather than kill him.

Just a thought.

Perhaps we should be nice to Jack...and start focusing on Thawmus instead (really, I'm just going with Jack because he's the only one that seems to have the numbers that could start to edge towards sizeable enough to get him to say something).

Jackofhearts2005

08/20/2007, 15:58

hadn't thought about it. but yea since the phase will last 24 hrs, majority at the end of the time period. if there is no majority reached, then no one is lynched.
I like this rule.

Rokk_Krinn

08/20/2007, 16:00

I like this rule.

So now's your chance to switch your vote to, say, JackA and start increasing the numbers to where he can't remain silent. :grin:

Jackofhearts2005

08/20/2007, 16:03

He'll remain silent anyways.

Screaming Banshee

08/20/2007, 16:08

vote: no lynch

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 16:11

no lynch (13)
JackAssterson (3)
Lobstrosity (1)
Antipathy (1)

we've heard from 18 of the 24...

a majority of no lynch is currently present.

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 16:49

fine...

a jedi's favorite car is a ....

wait for it....

here it comes...

toy-yoda.

ba-dum dum ching!

JackAssterson

08/20/2007, 17:00

fine...

a jedi's favorite car is a ....

wait for it....

here it comes...

toy-yoda.

ba-dum dum ching!

I liked LeSabre. Sniffle. :sleep:

RCricket55

08/20/2007, 17:38

fine...

a jedi's favorite car is a ....

wait for it....

here it comes...

toy-yoda.

ba-dum dum ching!

Apparently she's not Jedi...

http://www.sptimes.com/News/072801/State/Dream_car_is_a__toy_Y.shtml

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 20:32

nice avatar cricket. lol

Lobstrosity

08/20/2007, 22:40

Well, in the meantime then I think people are onto something so...

Lynch Vote Change: JackAssterson

I am glad that some people agree with me in at least attempting do something on the first day besides twiddle our thumbs/tentacles. I just love sitting here, looking around, making bets on who is going to be discovered tomorrow with their body in their bed, their head(s) on the nightstand, and their internal fluids soaking into the floorboards.

Change vote: lynch xlr1926

If someone votes for a lynch, and everyone else stands around waiting to get killed, does the vote really matter?

m_a_caque

08/20/2007, 22:55

no lynch (13)
JackAssterson (2)
Lobstrosity (1)
Antipathy (1)
xlr1926 (1)

we've heard from 18 of the 24...

a majority of no lynch is currently present.

night phase will begin at 9:43am est.

xlr1926

08/20/2007, 23:17

I'm voting for no lynch it seems like the best way to go about the first day.

xlr1926

08/20/2007, 23:18

Sorry, forgot to bold it: vote: no lynch

Antipathy

08/20/2007, 23:21

Woo! I attracted some attention.

Anyways, no lynch for me.

Antipathy

08/20/2007, 23:22

I'll have you know that despite his perhaps evil sounding name, Antipathy is a fair trader and a respected member of the realms. :angry:

I wuv u. :classic:

m_a_caque

08/21/2007, 06:39

no lynch (15)
JackAssterson (2)
Lobstrosity (1)
Antipathy (1)
xlr1926 (1)

we've heard from 20 of the 24...

a majority of no lynch is currently present.

night phase will begin at 9:43am est.

theanalogkid

08/21/2007, 10:38

Vote: No lynch.

m_a_caque

08/21/2007, 10:52

no lynch (16)
JackAssterson (2)
Lobstrosity (1)
Antipathy (1)
xlr1926 (1)

we've heard from 21 of the 24...

a majority of no lynch is currently present.

END of Day 1

The city was bustling with conversations, drinking, games of sabaac. However, the people agreed that they didn't know who was behind the death of Kitster, so no one was sentenced to death.

The Night Phase begins now and will last for 24 hours.
I will Lock this thread so no game related comments can be made here. I did unlock the signup thread if you want to tell star wars or macaque related jokes there... lol
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205972&page=7

Anyone with night abilities can begin pm'ing them to me now....

m_a_caque

08/22/2007, 10:58

Night 1 Phase

After a restless day where many spent time in the cantina of Cloud City, some let their restlessness continue through the night. One man wearing a helmet was getting ready to go and take a look around, but when he went to leave his room he found the door was jammed, so he spent the night alone. A scared man stopped later on to check out the band in the cantina, sat and listened with a darkly dressed man.

A cloaked man snuck out of the cantina un-noticed and went into one of the rooms of the hotel just outside the cantina. A humanoid sat playing sabaac with a stylish man and waited for another small being to leave the cantina, but the small being never did leave, but it did notice the humanoid watching him. The small being did not notice the other little guy watching him from afar though. After the cloaked man left the hotel room, a woman snuck into that room to look for something.

A man wearing white was seen delivering a message to someone in one of the rooms. Another man in white sat at the bar across from a man who said nothing all night, but just watched what was going on around the bar. A being in a flight suit went from group to group in the cantina looking for someone. A furry little guy hid behind the bar and just listened to what people said to the bar-tender. Another man in a flight suit sat alone but seemed cheery to passers-by.

An ominous being was seen standing next to a rough looking man at the bar. Later on the rough man was seen with a very old looking fellow. While another person talked to many people about the outstanding qualities of one of the cantina patrons. An odd looking fellow sat motionless for quite a while, appearing to be meditating, while a humanoid was seen near him.

While talk was mostly about the murdered man from the morning and how when he was very young he was best friends with a great podracer, some of the cantina patrons stood alone, while at least one small group was seen talking amongst themselves. One being with a cane hobbled off to the restroom after having something to eat from the bar, he was not seen for the rest of the night.

m_a_caque

08/22/2007, 11:00

Day 2 Morning

As the inhabitants of Cloud City woke up and started milling around, several shots of blaster-fire were heard. A small cloaked being started “screaming” oootini oootini. His actions slowly caught the attention of everyone. They came to find the body of a man that had been shot with several bolts of blaster-fire. The lifeless body belonged to the Stormtrooper Squad Leader-Imperial Team member-Alignment:Evil, played by Iron Ham.

A man who wasn’t seen at all during the night, showed up with some sort of weapon at his side looked at the body as though it reminded him of something from the past. He was heard saying “I have a bad feeling about this,” as he turned and headed off.

I ask that Iron Ham not post in this thread anymore, or pm any players of the game until it has concluded. Thanks.

The day phase begins now and will last 24 hours.

theanalogkid

08/22/2007, 11:01

Very interesting.

m_a_caque

08/22/2007, 11:03

we have 23 players:

sstralkowski
KitSuShel
Lobstrosity
CrusaderC
RCricket55
xlr1926
OICU812
charlesx
theanalogkid
Rokk Krinn
JackAssterson
ZombieStomper
ThanosGuy
FinFangFoom
DarqFeonix
Thawmus
Lensnart
Doombot3.1
Screaming Banshee
Antipathy
Scarlet Witch
Cornucopia
Jackofhearts2005

a majority vote of 12 will be needed to lynch.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 11:05

So....the mafia didn't kill......anyone? :confused:

I gotta say, this is a strategy I don't fully understand....

RCricket55

08/22/2007, 11:06

Very interesting.

very interesting indeed...

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 11:07

Well, I have no idea who was doing what last night. Anybody have any useful information to share?

RCricket55

08/22/2007, 11:07

So....the mafia didn't kill......anyone? :confused:

I gotta say, this is a strategy I don't fully understand....

someone must have a blocking ability....and made a darn good choice. A good aligned guy has a night killing ability (and also choose well).

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 11:13

someone must have a blocking ability....and made a darn good choice. A good aligned guy has a night killing ability (and also choose well).

That certainly seems the most probable situation. However, from what happened to ME last night, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Either that, or someone has some funky night power.

theanalogkid

08/22/2007, 11:14

Vote: No Lynch until we get some more concrete edvidence.

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 11:15

someone must have a blocking ability....and made a darn good choice. A good aligned guy has a night killing ability (and also choose well).

Yeah, we got lucky. Hopefully someone also got some useful information last night too.

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 11:17

I'm not gonna vote yet until someone comes along with some information.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 11:19

On one hand, we do have a leg up on the mafia thus far. They haven't killed anyone, and they've lost one of their own.

On the other hand, we probably should stay ahead while we can, so hopefully someone knows something.

I know a little, but I want to put a few more pieces together for this puzzle before I make myself out to be an ###, like in the other games.

m_a_caque

08/22/2007, 11:36

no lynch (1) theanalogkid

need 12 for majority

RCricket55

08/22/2007, 11:39

Vote: No Lynch until we get some more concrete edvidence.

Only a few people have posted...I definitely think we need to see if anyone gathered any info. Hopefully there will be something more to go on.

JackAssterson

08/22/2007, 11:52

Judging from the write-up, I'm guessing either Darth Vader or the Stormtrooper (both known bucketheads, though a simple locked door shouldn't stop Vader) got roleblocked and then Han Solo (who's probably the Vigilante) capped the Stormtrooper.

charlesx

08/22/2007, 11:53

I've got nothing, but Jack seems to have a good answer for what happened. The Mafia was stymied! :)

OICU812

08/22/2007, 12:00

Pretty sure the mafia tried to make a strike last night.

RCricket55

08/22/2007, 12:10

Night 1 Phase
A cloaked man snuck out of the cantina un-noticed and went into one of the rooms of the hotel just outside the cantina. A humanoid sat playing sabaac with a stylish man and waited for another small being to leave the cantina, but the small being never did leave, but it did notice the humanoid watching him. The small being did not notice the other little guy watching him from afar though. After the cloaked man left the hotel room, a woman snuck into that room to look for something.

As the inhabitants of Cloud City woke up and started milling around, several shots of blaster-fire were heard. A small cloaked being started “screaming” oootini oootini.

I wonder if this small being was the mafia target. Is it possible he had some sort of defensive reaction to being followed/targeted??

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 12:15

I wonder if this small being was the mafia target. Is it possible he had some sort of defensive reaction to being followed/targeted??

That sounds plausible. I guess Greedo really shot first after all.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 12:38

I wonder if this small being was the mafia target. Is it possible he had some sort of defensive reaction to being followed/targeted??

Well, considering it was probably a Jawa (in which case, I don't know if that's an independent, or a good guy.), I can see them having a "paranoid" power much like Jacin had in Peers' second game.

CrusaderC

08/22/2007, 12:48

I wonder if this small being was the mafia target. Is it possible he had some sort of defensive reaction to being followed/targeted??

Very interesting....indeed.

I'm just happy I didn't get murdered/lynched before saying anything. That night phase was LONG!!

lensnart

08/22/2007, 12:50

This is going well already, I have a mighty good reason to vote this way, and you never win without some lynching so lets get the party started.

Vote: Darqfoenix

theanalogkid

08/22/2007, 12:52

So what is your mighty good reason?

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 12:56

My thoughts in bold.

Night 1 Phase

... One man wearing a helmet was getting ready to go and take a look around, but when he went to leave his room he found the door was jammed, so he spent the night alone. ...
Could be Vader as JackAssterton suggested. Still, the Dark Lord of the Sith being foiled by a jammed lock seems kinda odd. Could be a storm trooper.

A cloaked man snuck out of the cantina un-noticed and went into one of the rooms of the hotel just outside the cantina. A humanoid sat playing sabaac with a stylish man and waited for another small being to leave the cantina, but the small being never did leave, but it did notice the humanoid watching him. The small being did not notice the other little guy watching him from afar though. After the cloaked man left the hotel room, a woman snuck into that room to look for something.

OK, there's at least 2 cops/trackers described here. First is the "other little guy" who was watching the small being while remaining unnoticed. Also, the woman who sneaked into someone's room also seems to be a cop/tracker. If they found anything useful, they need to let us know. And the doctor/protector needs to protect them.

A being in a flight suit went from group to group in the cantina looking for someone. A furry little guy hid behind the bar and just listened to what people said to the bar-tender. ...

More cops/trackers?

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 12:58

Possibilities as to why nobody on our side died:

1) The mafia was trying to kill the little guy who never left. Normally, this wouldn't prevent an attack (remember the shootouts the secret service and the james younger gang had in the saloon?). Combine that with the fact that the person watching the Jawa was a humaniod sabac player (doesn't sound like an imperial to me, though I could be wrong) and I don't think that the Jawa was the mafia target. He could have been, but I doubt it.

2) Mafia killer got roleblocked. Like Thawmus said, this is improbable. One, because Thawmus said so (and I doubt he'd say so if he was mafia), and two, because a helmet could also mean a rebel pilot.

3) The Mafia choose to not attack someone. You would use this strategy to make it look like the mafia was roleblocked when they weren't. For instance, if the roleblocker blocked me and the mafia didn't attack anyone, the roleblocker would assume I was mafia, even though I'm not.

4) The Mafia hit was misdirected and they killed one of their own. Solo's comment made it look like he wasn't the one who killed Iron Ham (he showed up after the fact)

5) We have two mafias and the killer from one killed the killer from the other. This seems unlikely because IH would have had plenty of time to kill during the night.

I'm thinking 3 or 4 are the most likely.

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 13:01

This is going well already, I have a mighty good reason to vote this way, and you never win without some lynching so lets get the party started.

Vote: Darqfoenix
You do realize that if we lynch Darqfoenix and he turns out to be good, then you've practically sealed your death come the next lynch time, right?

That is why I'm going to believe you for now, because there's no reason to be lying about someone being bad, or else you seal your own death.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 13:03

This is going well already, I have a mighty good reason to vote this way, and you never win without some lynching so lets get the party started.

Vote: Darqfoenix

If you're wrong, you're a dead man tomorrow.

So, with that being the case, mind explaining yourself a little bit?

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 13:03

This is going well already, I have a mighty good reason to vote this way, and you never win without some lynching so lets get the party started.

Vote: Darqfoenix
Good enough for me.

If you're wrong, we can always lynch you, since a good guy probably wouldn't have a mighty good reason to lynch a good guy.

I don't want to hear your reason, since I don't want the mafia to know what cards we have in our hand.

Vote: Darqfoenix

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 13:05

Good enough for me.

If you're wrong, we can always lynch you, since a good guy probably wouldn't have a mighty good reason to lynch a good guy.

I don't want to hear your reason, since I don't want the mafia to know what cards we have in our hand.

Vote: Darqfoenix

........

Vote: Darqfoenix

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 13:05

Very well. JackH is right.

Vote: Darqfoenix

JackAssterson

08/22/2007, 13:06

2) Mafia killer got roleblocked. Like Thawmus said, this is improbable. One, because Thawmus said so (and I doubt he'd say so if he was mafia), and two, because a helmet could also mean a rebel pilot.

While I'm not ruling out the possibility that it's not what happened, I disagree with your reasoning. The helmeted dude could be anyone wearing a helmet -- we KNOW there's a Vader (I mean, c'mon) and we KNOW there was a Storm Trooper. Could there be a Rebel Pilot? Sure. But I'm not going to ignore the fact that I know two helmeted dudes are on the Dark Side.

Second, I disagree that Thawmus would or wouldn't say anything if he were mafia. As a general rule in this game, you can largely discount what people say...it's what they do that's important.

Mafia members will always lie, except when they don't.

A crafty Mafia member will spin his lies with threads of truth interwoved with sleight of hand, just to further create confusion and complicate the metaphor. The time for truth is generally just before someone is lynched (where they're trying to save their skin) or towards the end-game where all the cards are on the table anyhoo.

RCricket55

08/22/2007, 13:06

You do realize that if we lynch Darqfoenix and he turns out to be good, then you've practically sealed your death come the next lynch time, right?

That is why I'm going to believe you for now, because there's no reason to be lying about someone being bad, or else you seal your own death.

of course if he turns out bad you probably sealed your fate for the night faze anyway...

RCricket55

08/22/2007, 13:10

3) The Mafia choose to not attack someone. You would use this strategy to make it look like the mafia was roleblocked when they weren't. For instance, if the roleblocker blocked me and the mafia didn't attack anyone, the roleblocker would assume I was mafia, even though I'm not.

Can the mafia do this...that would be news to me.

And if no one died wouldn't the roleblocker assume he did his job and that the person was targeted by the mafia, meaning he isn't/wasn't mafia.

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 13:11

A crafty Mafia member will spin his lies with threads of truth interwoved with sleight of hand, just to further create confusion and complicate the metaphor.

So, remind me again why you're giving the Mafia advice on how to lie better? :cheeky:

Seriously, though, while I would like to hear len's reasons for lynching Darqphoenix, Jackofhearts2005 makes a good point. If Darqphoenix turns out to be a good guy though, lensnart will have volunteered to be the next lynch victim. Therefore, I will

VOTE: Darqphoenix

RCricket55

08/22/2007, 13:12

While I'm not ruling out the possibility that it's not what happened, I disagree with your reasoning. The helmeted dude could be anyone wearing a helmet -- we KNOW there's a Vader (I mean, c'mon) and we KNOW there was a Storm Trooper. Could there be a Rebel Pilot? Sure. But I'm not going to ignore the fact that I know two helmeted dudes are on the Dark Side.

Second, I disagree that Thawmus would or wouldn't say anything if he were mafia. As a general rule in this game, you can largely discount what people say...it's what they do that's important.

Mafia members will always lie, except when they don't.

A crafty Mafia member will spin his lies with threads of truth interwoved with sleight of hand, just to further create confusion and complicate the metaphor. The time for truth is generally just before someone is lynched (where they're trying to save their skin) or towards the end-game where all the cards are on the table anyhoo.

I can already see why people hunt you down good or bad...haha

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 13:13

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 13:13

While I'm not ruling out the possibility that it's not what happened, I disagree with your reasoning. The helmeted dude could be anyone wearing a helmet -- we KNOW there's a Vader (I mean, c'mon) and we KNOW there was a Storm Trooper. Could there be a Rebel Pilot? Sure. But I'm not going to ignore the fact that I know two helmeted dudes are on the Dark Side.

Second, I disagree that Thawmus would or wouldn't say anything if he were mafia. As a general rule in this game, you can largely discount what people say...it's what they do that's important.

Mafia members will always lie, except when they don't.

A crafty Mafia member will spin his lies with threads of truth interwoved with sleight of hand, just to further create confusion and complicate the metaphor. The time for truth is generally just before someone is lynched (where they're trying to save their skin) or towards the end-game where all the cards are on the table anyhoo.
Oh, to be sure. I'm sure someone will decide that Thawmus hinting he was roleblocked is enough of a reason for him to be investigated tonight.

If he is Vader, he's already lost a stormtrooper, and probably immunity to the cop.

JackAssterson

08/22/2007, 13:14

Can the mafia do this...that would be news to me.

From what I understand the Mafia HAS to make a hit. They have no choice. At least, that's what I've encoutnered in my limited experience with Mafia games.

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 13:15

I would think Boba Fett would probably be the serial killer, or he and Han Solo have an in-game vendetta.

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 13:15

From what I understand the Mafia HAS to make a hit. They have no choice. At least, that's what I've encoutnered in my limited experience with Mafia games.
I really like your signature!:p

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 13:16

Can the mafia do this...that would be news to me.

And if no one died wouldn't the roleblocker assume he did his job and that the person was targeted by the mafia, meaning he isn't/wasn't mafia.
What? You mean not kill anybody? I assume they can. I don't think it's come up yet, but I thought about doing it in the WW mafia game.

If I was the roleblocker, and no non-mafia died, I'd assume I had stopped a killer.

Then again, we might have a....I don't remember what it is called. A combined roleblocker and doctor. A jailkeeper?

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 13:17

So....the mafia didn't kill......anyone? :confused:

I gotta say, this is a strategy I don't fully understand....

That or opposing villain factions did some games with each other, with one perhaps successfully blocking the Empire's attempt to make a kill while also killing off the Storm Trooper leader? There may, for example, be Smugglers/Bounty Hunters as a third faction.

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 13:17

I would think Boba Fett would probably be the serial killer, or he and Han Solo have an in-game vendetta.
That sound very logical.

JackAssterson

08/22/2007, 13:17

Thanosguy has a good point...Boba Fett's almost certainly skulking around here too, and could be the helmeted d00d.

So, remind me again why you're giving the Mafia advice on how to lie better?

I believe in knowing thine enemy. Blind trust is dead in this game. Going by logic (he wouldn't say this if he was mafia...) is dead in this game, because mafia members can think of that too. The key to winning is information, not words, because information is immutable and people's opinions/positions/what have you can change from hour to hour.

theanalogkid

08/22/2007, 13:18

I would assume that if there is a Fett, he would be independent.

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 13:18

I would think Boba Fett would probably be the serial killer, or he and Han Solo have an in-game vendetta.

I think the in-game vendetta makes more sense. He's a bounty hunter, which means that he kills for money, not for kicks (as a serial killer would do).

Boba Fett also wears a helmet, and therefore, could be another possibility for the helmeted guy who was locked in his room.

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 13:19

What? You mean not kill anybody? I assume they can. I don't think it's come up yet, but I thought about doing it in the WW mafia game.

If I was the roleblocker, and no non-mafia died, I'd assume I had stopped a killer.

Then again, we might have a....I don't remember what it is called. A combined roleblocker and doctor. A jailkeeper?
But, even if they don't have to kill anybody, it doesn't make sense to not do so on the first night when there are so many good guys around. The only reason would be to just confuse us, which it has, but I would think that starting to get rid of the good guys would be more important to the mafia than just spreading confusion.

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 13:20

I believe in knowing thine enemy. Blind trust is dead in this game. Going by logic (he wouldn't say this if he was mafia...) is dead in this game, because mafia members can think of that too. The key to winning is information, not words, because information is immutable and people's opinions/positions/what have you can change from hour to hour.

I know, I was just having some fun.

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 13:23

I think the in-game vendetta makes more sense. He's a bounty hunter, which means that he kills for money, not for kicks (as a serial killer would do).

Boba Fett also wears a helmet, and therefore, could be another possibility for the helmeted guy who was locked in his room.

I guess Boba's role could be like pm the name of one person each night, if he's Han Solo, you bring him to Vader, and Vader gets more powers to capture Young Skywalker.

Or if he brings him to Vader, then he joins the mafia.

Though I could see Boba being on the Imperial side, with Vader giving him more credits for each hit he's ordered to take out.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 13:25

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 13:26

I guess Boba's role could be like pm the name of one person each night, if he's Han Solo, you bring him to Vader, and Vader gets more powers to capture Young Skywalker.

Or if he brings him to Vader, then he joins the mafia.

That sounds quite plausible. I only skimmed the Wild West Mafia thread, but I seemed to recall that there was a bounty hunter with somewhat similar abilities in that game.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 13:30

Oh, to be sure. I'm sure someone will decide that Thawmus hinting he was roleblocked is enough of a reason for him to be investigated tonight.

If he is Vader, he's already lost a stormtrooper, and probably immunity to the cop.

If that were the case, this is true. In which case, I have no problem at all being investigated.

However, that's not entirely what I'm hinting toward.

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 13:30

Lets see what else we have here.

We have a restless helmeted guy (probably Fett, Vader. Possibly Rebel Pilot or Stormtrooper). He was roleblocked and I wouldn't mind him being roleblocked again. Fett and Vader are dangerous and even if he is a rebel, I doubt he is a tracker, since we seem to have a few trackers around already.

We have two guys in white (probably stormtroopers).

We have two little guys (probably Jawas and probably affiliated townies)

We have a scared guy, an ominous being, his rough friend, an old fellow, a cloaked guy, a stylish guy playing sabac, a humanoid playing sabac (who was after one of the jawas in one way or another), a woman (tracker? cop?), a thing in a flight suit, a little furry guy (Ewok? tracker?), the bartender, someone who was talking up someone else (probably effects votes), odd looking guy who meditates, someone with a cane, and Han Solo.

I only count 20, but I might have missed someone in all the excitement. ;)

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 13:31

Okay, just for tradition's sake...

Lynch Vote: JackAssterson

;)

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 13:33

But, even if they don't have to kill anybody, it doesn't make sense to not do so on the first night when there are so many good guys around. The only reason would be to just confuse us, which it has, but I would think that starting to get rid of the good guys would be more important to the mafia than just spreading confusion.
Oh, certainly. I would only do it if the majority of trackers had been killed already, leaving the roleblocker as the primary source of information.

Then, I might choose to not kill anybody, so that the roleblocker accuses another townie. He gets lynched, nobody trusts the roleblocker the next day and lynches him.

This is assuming the mafia can even choose to not hit someone.

OICU812

08/22/2007, 13:37

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 13:37

I would guess the stylish guy playing Sabac to be Lando, but I could be wrong.

The options for "helmeted entities" in the Star Wars universe are actually pretty numerous. Heck, it could be Zuckus for all we know.

Humanoids could refer to either aliens or droids.

I would think the Jawas are likely "independent" or associated with non-Rebel factions but I could be wrong there.

JackAssterson

08/22/2007, 13:38

Okay, just for tradition's sake...

Lynch Vote: JackAssterson

;)

:tired:

rassafrassa...

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 13:39

:tired:

rassafrassa...

You know I'll likely retract that for a real vote later...assuming someone doesn't come up with good evidence against you. :devious:

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 13:40

I would think the Jawas are likely "independent" or associated with non-Rebel factions but I could be wrong there.
I'm betting they are good.

I mean, honestly, Jawas might steal from you but I doubt they are out to kill us all.

They would be like the New Avengers or the James-Younger gang, or Batman and Robin, I would think.

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 13:43

Why would Jawas be in Cloud City?

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 13:44

Matter of fact, why would an Ewok?

Though he does have one in the game.

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 13:47

When Chewabacca found C3PO's body, who were the people running the spare parts joint?

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 13:47

When Chewabacca found C3PO's body, who were the people running the spare parts joint?

Goblins.

From Mordor......

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 13:51

Goblins.

From Mordor......

It all makes sense.

Sauron is the Don of the second Mafia. The Witch-King and Saruman are his hitmen.

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 13:52

Goblins.

From Mordor......

Where the shadows lie......

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 13:56

When Chewabacca found C3PO's body, who were the people running the spare parts joint?

Ugnauts.

The reason we're pretty certain that a Jawa is involved is because of the Utini exclamation which is a Jawa phrase.

OICU812

08/22/2007, 13:57

Lynch Vote: sstralkowski

This guy's not had a single word to say since the beginning... silence = guilt these days... laying low will getcha killed...

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 13:57

Hmm...while the Jawas may not have a direct goal of, say, wiping our Rebels I could see them with the goal of "Kill off the droids for sale/spare parts" (as I'm guessing there should be -at least- two droids - C3PO and R2D2 - in the game as possibly more, like if IG-88 is involved in things).

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 13:58

Why would Jawas be in Cloud City?
Because Jawas say "oootini?"

Sidenote: Ugnaughts (goblins) aren't particularly furry.

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 13:59

Ugnauts.

The reason we're pretty certain that a Jawa is involved is because of the Utini exclamation which is a Jawa phrase.
Beat me to it. :p

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 14:00

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 14:04

I could see that.

Or they could get more powers from droids being "killed," like Sidewinder or Bullseye.

Which, again, wouldn't exactly put them on the side of the Rebels considering two of the main Rebels -are- droids.

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 14:10

Which, again, wouldn't exactly put them on the side of the Rebels considering two of the main Rebels -are- droids.
Kindof.

Sidewinder was on our team, despite having a bit of a conflict of interest.

If we see someone leading the charge to lynch droids, we might want to look out for that person.

What I'm saying is, I don't think we have to kill the Jawas to win, despite the possibility that they pose a minor threat, particularly to droids.

m_a_caque

08/22/2007, 14:12

sorry. work and lunch kept me away.

DarqFeonix (5) lensnart, Jackofhearts2005, Thanosguy, Thawmus, Doombot 3.1,
JackAssterson (1) Rokk Krinn
sstralkowski (1) OICU812
no lynch (1) theanalogkid

12 needed for a majority.

Cornucopia

08/22/2007, 14:16

I think we need to look into some of these cats who have not spoken a word to date.... seems to me it's the mafia who benefits most from keeping a low profile in these early days and picking us townies off by night. Cops/trackers... get on these guys. Just my $0.02.

Some of us that haven't spoken are just new at this, so bear with us. I will say that I'm glad I wasn't killed last night. I'll checkin again later after I finishing reading everyone's comments.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 14:17

Kindof.

Sidewinder was on our team, despite having a bit of a conflict of interest.

If we see someone leading the charge to lynch droids, we might want to look out for that person.

What I'm saying is, I don't think we have to kill the Jawas to win, despite the possibility that they pose a minor threat, particularly to droids.

Rattler gained power no matter who was lynched, if the Jawas have to specifically get rid of droids it means removing C3PO and R2D2 who - despite my jokes about them - probably are handy to the Rebels (well, maybe R2D2 :laugh: ).

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 14:20

Rattler gained power no matter who was lynched, if the Jawas have to specifically get rid of droids it means removing C3PO and R2D2 who - despite my jokes about them - probably are handy to the Rebels (well, maybe R2D2 :laugh: ).

C3PO did single-handedly save the Rebellion because only he could figure out that the unidentified object was transmitting imperial code, thus allowing the Rebellion to start the evacuation.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 14:21

C3PO did single-handedly save the Rebellion because only he could figure out that the unidentified object was transmitting imperial code, thus allowing the Rebellion to start the evacuation.

Not to mention, becoming the Ewoks new god.

Jackofhearts2005

08/22/2007, 14:25

Rattler gained power no matter who was lynched, if the Jawas have to specifically get rid of droids it means removing C3PO and R2D2 who - despite my jokes about them - probably are handy to the Rebels (well, maybe R2D2 :laugh: ).
There could be other droids here, though....or we could be falsely speculating....or the Jawas could be evil.

Not to mention, becoming the Ewoks new god.
Maybe C-3PO can recruit the Ewok to join the rebels! :p

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 14:29

There could be other droids here, though....or we could be falsely speculating....or the Jawas could be evil.

Maybe C-3PO can recruit the Ewok to join the rebels! :p

I won't speculate on C-3PO anymore, in that respect.

theanalogkid

08/22/2007, 14:31

Change Lynch Vote:Darqfeonix at least to stop this inane speculation.

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 14:33

I won't speculate on C-3PO anymore, in that respect.

I heartily concur. We don't want the Empire to target our most valuable member. ;)

KitsuShel

08/22/2007, 14:33

Vote:Darqfeonix

Sorry it took me so long, guys, my browser keeps freezing and its really slow for some reason the past couple of days.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 14:33

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 14:36

Yes, it would be nice if everyone would just vote for Darqfoenix, seeing as how he's the only person that we have any clue on being a bad guy.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 14:37

All I can say is that I find it odd that Lobstrosity was all over lynching SOMEONE, ANYONE on the first day, and now he's completely silent......

Then again, it could just be due to not being online.

And don't forget, guys, this game doesn't end phases when conditions are met, it ends after 24 hours, no matter what.

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 14:37

Unless, Rokk, you'd like to tell us a little about Len.

JackAssterson

08/22/2007, 14:38

Hmm...well, I do have some reasons to suspect that Len may be on the right track, though I'm not entirely certain. Obviously trying to lynch Jack isn't going to succeed tonight :laugh: so we should probably start coming to a consensus. Anyone have any information pro- or con- for either Len or Darq though before I change my vote?

I have no information on Len or Darq, but I have to say the rational for voting Darq is the same as in the Realms Mafia game, and that logic snagged us Ro-Gan. People aren't just going to put themselves out there without a good reason...and without getting into specifics, there's only so many roles that could possibly give someone a "darn good reason" to suggest a vote, so I trust this one for now.

As said before, if it doesn't turn out to be kosher, we kill the messenger, as it were.

Oh, and don't worry about the 'lynch' vote against me, Rokk. You're a good fella -- I won't hold it against you. :grin:

Vote: Darqfeonix

charlesx

08/22/2007, 14:38

Change Lynch Vote:Darqfeonix at least to stop this inane speculation.

Ditto. It's getting way too convoluted.

Lynch vote: Darqfeonix.

OICU812

08/22/2007, 14:41

Anyone have any information pro- or con- for either Len or Darq though before I change my vote?

I agree... a little risky to string up Darq going solely by Len's word. If, for example, Len is the don, then he gets a good guy killed by day and then kills another at night... a two-fer. Not liking that. Although, true, Len would be on the chopping block if Darq goes down and he was good. Mehhh I dunno.

m_a_caque

08/22/2007, 14:43

DarqFeonix (9) lensnart, Jackofhearts2005, Thanosguy, Thawmus, Doombot 3.1, theanalogkid, Kitsushel, JackAssterson, charlesx
JackAssterson (1) Rokk Krinn
sstralkowski (1) OICU812

12 needed for a majority.

Cornucopia

08/22/2007, 14:43

Lynch vote: Darqfeonix
I'll trust a "darn good reason" as well, since it's early and I'm still in a trusting mood.

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 14:43

I heartily concur. We don't want the Empire to target our most valuable member. ;)

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Is the very model of a modern Major-General
Has information vegetable, animal, and mineral
He knows the kings of England, and he quotes the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical

Is very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical
He understands equations, both the simple and quadratical
About binomial theorem he's teeming with a lot o' news
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse

With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse!
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse!
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotepotenuse!

He's very good at integral and differential calculus
He knows the scientific names of beings animalculous
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
He is the very model of a modern Major-General

In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
He is the very model of a modern Major-General

He knows our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's
he answers hard acrostics, has a pretty taste for paradox
He quotes in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus
In conics he can floor peculiarities parabolous

He can tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies
He knows the croaking chorus from the Frogs of Aristophanes
Then he can hum a fugue of which he's heard the music's din afore
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore

And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore!
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinafore!
And whistle all the airs from that infernal nonsense Pinapinafore!

Then he can write a washing bill in Babylonic cuneiform
And tell you ev'ry detail of Caractacus's uniform
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
He is the very model of a modern Major-General

In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
He is the very model of a modern Major-General!

In fact, when he knows what is meant by "mamelon" and "ravelin"
When he can tell at sight a Mauser rifle from a javelin
When such affairs as sorties and surprises he's more wary at
And when he knows precisely what is meant by "commissariat"

When he has learnt what progress has been made in modern gunnery
When he knows more of tactics than a novice in a nunnery
In short, when he's a smattering of elemental strategy
You'll say a better Major-General had never sat a gee

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For his military knowledge, though he's plucky and adventury
Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century
But still, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
He is the very model of a modern Major-General

But still, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral
He is the very model of a modern Major-General!

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 14:47

I do not like it that we are lynching Darqfeonix without

a) giving him a chance to defend himself
b) letting lensnart explain his reasoning

I find this rather unsettling.

m_a_caque

08/22/2007, 14:48

A man in white was just spotted handing another message to someone.

One of the small beings has been cackling off and on all morning.

The little furry guy finally crawled out from behind the bar and got a drink, only to pass out from too much alcohol in his little body.

voting update:

DarqFeonix (10) lensnart, Jackofhearts2005, Thanosguy, Thawmus, Doombot 3.1, theanalogkid, Kitsushel, JackAssterson, charlesx, Cornucopia
JackAssterson (1) Rokk Krinn
sstralkowski (1) OICU812

12 needed for a majority.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 14:49

I do not like it that we are lynching Darqfeonix without

a) giving him a chance to defend himself
b) letting lensnart explain his reasoning

I find this rather unsettling.

I'm not kosher on it, either, but at least in this case, there's someone saying they have proof.

And I wouldn't want len to explain his reasoning, either. I think enough people have hinted toward their roles at this point, that the mafia's getting a roadmap (again)

Lobstrosity

08/22/2007, 14:49

I feel in interest of keeping to Mafia game tradition we should lynch JackAssterson. We might insult the Mafia Game loas if we don't do it. :devious:

I actually have good reasons to suspect Lobstrosity as at least being a wildcard.

Hmmm.. That must mean you were the guy that tracked me last night. Too bad you were clumsy. Don't try something like that at night again. I might be little, but I am not to be trifled with. You have no idea who I work for and what they are capable of.

Vote to lynch: Rokk Krinn

m_a_caque

08/22/2007, 14:51

voting update:

DarqFeonix (10) lensnart, Jackofhearts2005, Thanosguy, Thawmus, Doombot 3.1, theanalogkid, Kitsushel, JackAssterson, charlesx, Cornucopia
JackAssterson (1) Rokk Krinn
sstralkowski (1) OICU812
Rokk Krinn (1) Lobstrosity

12 needed for a majority.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 14:52

Hmmm.. That must mean you were the guy that tracked me last night. Too bad you were clumsy. Don't try something like that at night again. I might be little, but I am not to be trifled with. You have no idea who I work for and what they are capable of.

Vote to lynch: Rokk Krinn

Actually, I wasn't - truth was, the reason I was feeling like Len was on the right track was because I used a power on him last night :) - but thank you for revealing that you are...what, a Jawa?

Folks, I think we have the first person who just basically outed himself and did so in a manner that I don't find very trustworthy.

Lynch Vote: Lobstrosity

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 14:52

RCricket55

08/22/2007, 14:52

Lynch Vote: sstralkowski

This guy's not had a single word to say since the beginning... silence = guilt these days... laying low will getcha killed...

sstralkowski being quiet is odd on multiple levels....where are ya buddy

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 14:54

Change vote: Nobody

I'm getting another hunch.

RCricket55

08/22/2007, 14:57

two changed votes, lots of quiet people...24 hours for each period might become very mind numbing.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 14:57

Change vote: Nobody

I'm getting another hunch.

Jinkies Velma! :grin:

Seriously though, I think Doombot 3.1 just did a nice job of summing up the problem with Lobstrosity's statement. He wants to kill a tracker, basically admits to being a Jawa (so at the very least a Wildcard that would want to off C3PO and R2D2) and says he's working for powers that we wouldn't like (which I don't think is Yoda).

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 14:58

two changed votes, lots of quiet people...24 hours for each period might become very mind numbing.

It gets that way, believe me.

And at some point, I'll cast suspicion upon myself because I'm trying to bluff out the mafia.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 14:59

Jinkies Velma! :grin:

Seriously though, I think Doombot 3.1 just did a nice job of summing up the problem with Lobstrosity's statement. He wants to kill a tracker, basically admits to being a Jawa (so at the very least a Wildcard that would want to off C3PO and R2D2) and says he's working for powers that we wouldn't like (which I don't think is Yoda).

K, but I have a bad bad feeling about this. I think Lob might just be flying off the handle at the slightest hint of a problem.

Remember the Rattler, Rokk. Remember the Rattler.

Vote: Lobstrosity

DarqFeonix

08/22/2007, 15:00

Whoa whoa whoa, I just wake up and get on, and I already have 10 votes against me?!? However... does it mean anything that no one actually spelled my name right in the votes? :)

Anyway, I honestly have no idea what I'm defending myself against? Lensnart comes in with a single post and says he has it on good authority that I'm to be targetted, then nothing.

Honestly, I'm leaning toward Lensnart having an ability similar to Maury O in the Wild West game that if he gets lynched before the games over, he'll win... maybe Obi-Wan Kenobi, who will become even more powerful if he dies. All he needs to do is target someone the first day, odds are they'll be good, and the next day he'll be lynched for targeting a townie.

I'm leaning towards Lobstrocity's thoughts that Rokk Kinn got blocked last night while either tracking or going out for a kill.

Vote: Rokk Kinn

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 15:01

I'm leaning towards Lobstrocity's thoughts that Rokk Kinn got blocked last night while either tracking or going out for a kill.

Vote: Rokk Kinn

Nice try except that Lobstrocity accused me of tracking him - just that I got spotted in the process - not that I got blocked, so that doesn't match your argument.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 15:02

K, but I have a bad bad feeling about this. I think Lob might just be flying off the handle at the slightest hint of a problem.

Remember the Rattler, Rokk. Remember the Rattler.

Vote: Lobstrosity

Yeah, my feeling is that the Jawas want droids to gain more power and as two prominent droids are Rebels, I say remove the Jawas.

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 15:03

Arggg.... I don't know what to do right now. I'm still believing Darqfoenix is probably bad, because I asked you all to believe me when I figured out who Ro-Gan was, and I was right. So I think I'm going to stick with my vote for Darq. But, I do agree that Lobstrosity is obviously not a friend to the Rebels, and he must be dealt with tomorrow!

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 15:03

I'm leaning towards Lobstrocity's thoughts that Rokk Kinn got blocked last night while either tracking or going out for a kill.

Vote: Rokk Kinn

First, you need to bold your votes.

Second, that logic does not add up for me at all. There is a condition where that could be possible, but there would have to be two role-blockers here, instead of just one.

DarqFeonix

08/22/2007, 15:03

Oops, forgot my bold, sorry

Vote: Rokk Krinn

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 15:05

What I find funny is that the first thing that DarqFeonix has done is vote for Rokk, and not defend himself....

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 15:08

What I find funny is that the first thing that DarqFeonix has done is vote for Rokk, and not defend himself....

Read what he wrote, though.

He's right, he has nothing to defend himself against.

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 15:08

Hmmm.. That must mean you were the guy that tracked me last night. Too bad you were clumsy. Don't try something like that at night again. I might be little, but I am not to be trifled with. You have no idea who I work for and what they are capable of.

Vote to lynch: Rokk Krinn

See, now here's a man who's providing his reasoning.

I really do think that the man watching the small creature was waiting for him to exit the cantina, then he would ambush him and kill him. However, the small creature had some power that allowed him to avoid being night killed. This makes the most sense to me as to why the mafia didn't make a kill tonight.

Since Lobstrosity claims that Rokk Krinn was watching him, I will
Vote: Rokk Krinn

Also Rokk, why would Jawas have an ability to know who targets them? Doesn't make sense.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 15:10

See, now here's a man who's providing his reasoning.

I really do think that the man watching the small creature was waiting for him to exit the cantina, then he would ambush him and kill him. However, the small creature had some power that allowed him to avoid being night killed. This makes the most sense to me as to why the mafia didn't make a kill tonight.

Since Lobstrosity claims that Rokk Krinn was watching him, I will
Vote: Rokk Krinn

Also Rokk, why would Jawas have an ability to know who targets them? Doesn't make sense.

You're right, it doesn't make sense. At all.

Vote: Antipathy

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 15:10

What I find funny is that the first thing that DarqFeonix has done is vote for Rokk, and not defend himself....

I admit that I find Lobstrosity has outright stated himself an enemy of the Rebels and therefore should be lynched. However, I also have reasons to believe that Len's power leads him in the right direction with his vote and if you're vouching that you also have reasons against Darq...well, it's either that you and Len are Mafia (unlikely based on what I know) or have good reasons against Darq that you came to separately, so it does make me wonder which of the two should be lynched first.

The fact that Lob and Darq are both acting as a "voting block" - and not even getting their story straight while threatening folks - does make them look suspiciously like teammates in my eyes. :)

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 15:11

You're right, it doesn't make sense. At all.

Vote: Antipathy

Er, what are you referring to that doesn't make sense? My argument?

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 15:12

Also Rokk, why would Jawas have an ability to know who targets them? Doesn't make sense.

Read again, he said the person tracking him - which is what he accused me of tracking - was clumsy, not that the person tried to kill him. That part about being clumsy is also how the Jawa would know - not because of a power inherent in the Jawa but because the tracker was clumsy.

Either way, considering the Mafia doesn't traditionally have a tracker, wouldn't wanting to kill a tracker mean you're trying to kill a cop character?

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 15:14

Okay, here's what I think we should do:

I've decided not to vote for Darq. I think it would be best for someone to investigate him tonight.

However, Lobstrosity has basically told everyone that he is NOT a Rebel and is working for some big bad dude. I think that we should take him out NOW to reveal some information. Changing Lynch Vote to Lobstrosity

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 15:14

One thing to note is that if I was Mafia and had failed a hit on Lobstrosity last night, wouldn't it have made sense for me to have started in on him -before- he revealed his Jawa-ness and tried to get me killed today? That or I would have just immediately jumped on the Darq bandwagon in a rush to lynch someone.

DarqFeonix

08/22/2007, 15:14

What I find funny is that the first thing that DarqFeonix has done is vote for Rokk, and not defend himself....

Well, I thought I did defend myself, as much as I needed to. I know I shouldn't be lynched, and while very new to the Mafia games, but my Lynch vote did have some basis in what I thought I read. If there is never more than one role-blocker in these games, I would be wrong, but it would make sense that either side could have a role-blocker.

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 15:15

I admit that I find Lobstrosity has outright stated himself an enemy of the Rebels and therefore should be lynched.

See, that doesn't make sense to me at all. Lobstrosity stated he was the little creature who didn't exit the cantina. He also accused you of watching him.

From this statement you conclude that he's a Jawa and an enemy of the Rebels. Huh? Jawas aren't the only small creatures in the Star Wars Universe.

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 15:17

Either way, considering the Mafia doesn't traditionally have a tracker, wouldn't wanting to kill a tracker mean you're trying to kill a cop character?

Exactly. We have very few sources of information. Lobstrosity wants to lynch one of the few people who might be able to provide us with information, and in my book, that makes him a prime candidate for lynching.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 15:17

Well, I thought I did defend myself, as much as I needed to. I know I shouldn't be lynched, and while very new to the Mafia games, but my Lynch vote did have some basis in what I thought I read. If there is never more than one role-blocker in these games, I would be wrong, but it would make sense that either side could have a role-blocker.

Read again though in what your arguement is based upon: the fact that Lobstrosity didn't like being tracked. Cops - trackers - are not Mafia, so why would Lobstrosity want a tracker killed? Not once did Lobstrosity say he had someone try to kill him but, rather, that someone tried to track him and get seen in the process (which reading through the write-up would be the humanoid that watched the Jawa and was seen in the process). So, basically Lobstrosity is saying he wishes to remove someone that he believes is a tracker and you're supporting him in that desire. I don't see once where anyone dealing with the Jawa - Lobstrosity' practically admitted role - was roleblocked.

Thanosguy

08/22/2007, 15:18

Antipathy

08/22/2007, 15:19

Read again, he said the person tracking him - which is what he accused me of tracking - was clumsy, not that the person tried to kill him. That part about being clumsy is also how the Jawa would know - not because of a power inherent in the Jawa but because the tracker was clumsy.

Either way, considering the Mafia doesn't traditionally have a tracker, wouldn't wanting to kill a tracker mean you're trying to kill a cop character?

In the write-up, there were two people tracking him. One he noticed, one he didn't. The person he did notice was waiting for him to exit the cantina, but he didn't.

Since he said m_a_caque pm'ed him your name, it's logical that you're the one he noticed. And since I believe that the one he noticed was waiting for him to leave so he could kill him, I think you're mafia.

Doombot 3.1

08/22/2007, 15:19

Everyone, read that. He clearly states that he is NOT a Rebel and sounds like he is threatening us.

Sounds like he's threatening us? He is threatening us.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 15:19

See, that doesn't make sense to me at all. Lobstrosity stated he was the little creature who didn't exit the cantina. He also accused you of watching him.

From this statement you conclude that he's a Jawa and an enemy of the Rebels. Huh? Jawas aren't the only small creatures in the Star Wars Universe.

The little guy being watched in the Cantina - and saw someone watching him (which is what was shown in the write-up) - is the one that later screamed "Utini!" and that is a Jawa.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 15:21

In the write-up, there were two people tracking him. One he noticed, one he didn't. The person he did notice was waiting for him to exit the cantina, but he didn't.

Since he said m_a_caque pm'ed him your name, it's logical that you're the one he noticed. And since I believe that the one he noticed was waiting for him to leave so he could kill him, I think you're mafia.

He never once said m_a_caque PM'ed him my name. He said he just figured I was the one watching him that got seen watching him. Again, that's a tracker, not a killer so even if I was the one involved, that means I'm a tracker, not a killer.

Rokk_Krinn

08/22/2007, 15:22

Not to mention I've admitted how many times now to using my power on Len last night? Len who was calling for Darq's lynch, not Lobstrosity's, I might add but not Darq is siding with Lobstrosity. If anyone's acting as a "voting block" and not paying attention to reason, it's Darq, Lob, and Antipathy.

Thawmus

08/22/2007, 15:23

Er, what are you referring to that doesn't make sense? My argument?

Yes.

If Lobstrosity was the Jawa, then he wouldn't have spotted Rokk, at all.

Matter of fact, I find it funny that anyone would first claim that it was a possibility, and then vote for someone based on that possibility, and then ask how the possibility is even possible.

Because I think we're at a consensus, or at least I am, that Iron Ham was last night's killer. Which would mean that the Jawa had a "paranoid" ability.

Now, it doesn't really make sense that a Jawa would have both a ridiculously powerful defensive ability AND the ability to see someone tracking him, does it???