Bear Down, Chicago Bears!

[Frontman]

Oh man, oh man; I soooo can't wait for this season to begin, and for the NFC champions to defend and RETURN TO THE SUPERBOWL!

(Hey Front, is that just you trying to divert your attention from the White Sox?)

Aw shuddup.

[spiderman9797]

Well, if it helps at all, at least the Cubs aren't nearly as bad as we first thought they were at the start of the season.

And it looks like Brian might have to be starting, if Rex keeps running around with the ball like it's a bar of soap.:rolleyes:

On a different note, what's up with Lance's car? What happened there?

[raypalmer]

All Bears fans should be thankful the Seahawks broke the SB Loser Curse last year.

[Frontman]

Well, if it helps at all, at least the Cubs aren't nearly as bad as we first thought they were at the start of the season.

And it looks like Brian might have to be starting, if Rex keeps running around with the ball like it's a bar of soap.:rolleyes:

On a different note, what's up with Lance's car? What happened there?


*Looks at spiderman's message, looks at own avatar. Contemplates the "banning" option for the phrase "if it helps at all, at least the Cubs aren't nearly as bad....."*

;)

[Konmel]

*Looks at spiderman's message, looks at own avatar. Contemplates the "banning" option for the phrase "if it helps at all, at least the Cubs aren't nearly as bad....."*

;)


Heh. I wonder how many people actually know that most die-hard White Sox fans hate the Cubs and vice-versa. I'd imagine it's only the fair weather fans that like both teams.

[Frontman]

Heh. I wonder how many people actually know that most die-hard White Sox fans hate the Cubs and vice-versa. I'd imagine it's only the fair weather fans that like both teams.

Honestly, I don't "hate" the Cubs. If they're on and I want to watch baseball, I watch and root for them to win. But, I grew up on the Southside; actually less than a mile from Old Comiskey Park. http://www.chicagotraveler.com/attraction-maps/us-cellular-field-comiskey-park-map.html
Click on that, look to left of US Cellular Field to 37th and Emerald. That was my block. So, I'm a Sox fan through and through. (The area just south of Armour Square Park was where Old Comiskey Park once stood. It's now a parking lot.)

However, I do hate the "Wrigley" fans (not Cubs fans, but fans of the "scene" around the ballpark.) To me, nothing annoys me more than someone who spends that amount of money to attend a pro sporting event and can't name 3 players on the Cubs. Sorry, that's just an awful excuse to go drinking.

To me, nothing thrills me more than to see Chicago teams doing well; and while the Cubs are in first place, they certainly are not "doing well." Granted, they would make the playoffs if they hold onto the lead, but they have not played very good ball. More like hung in there just enough.

And I do hope one day to see a 'subway series' once again played in Chicago, winner take all.

Of course, that would mean ANOTHER World Series Championship for my White Sox in my lifetime. ;)

[Surfer13]

Well, I'm a Detroit guy, so I am holding out hope for the Tigers still, and it could be the Lions' year!!!










... But I'm not willing to bet on it. ;)

[Inbetweener]

Well, I'm a Detroit guy, so I am holding out hope for the Tigers still, and it could be the Lions' year!!!
... But I'm not willing to bet on it. ;)

I don't think that's far fetched at all. The Lions will probably stay focused on the passing game and I don't know how many people know it yet but Calvin Johnson is the new standard wide receiver...that guy is a thoroughbred and is probably the next Marvin Harrison or Jerry Rice.

I'm a New England guy though, so obviously I don't need to dream or be hopeful this season...they will likely get their fourth Championship.:classic:

[spiderman9797]

I
I'm a New England guy though, so obviously I don't need to dream or be hopeful this season...they will likely get their fourth AFC Championship.:classic:
Corrected it for you.

The Saints are going to win the Superbowl Championship.:cool: :laugh:

[Frontman]

Corrected it for you.

The Saints are going to win the Superbowl Championship.:cool: :laugh:

If they can get past the Bears. If they do, I'm going to be rooting for them to win as I've come to love that team.

[malakim2099]

I don't think that's far fetched at all. The Lions will probably stay focused on the passing game and I don't know how many people know it yet but Calvin Johnson is the new standard wide receiver...that guy is a thoroughbred and is probably the next Marvin Harrison or Jerry Rice.

If you have a total schlub, defined in this case as Jon Kitna, throwing you the ball, you cannot be the next Jerry Rice. Sorry. :)

Not that I have much room to talk. GO VIKINGS YEAH!

Yeah, right. :p

[Inbetweener]

The Saints are going to win the Superbowl Championship.:cool: :laugh:

It would be the Patriots 6th AFC championship but I like your enthusiasm for your team.;)

I think there's a real good chance that your Saints meet New England sometime in early 2008. Whether they win or not is something different, but I suppose we'll find out.

[Inbetweener]

If you have a total schlub, defined in this case as Jon Kitna, throwing you the ball, you cannot be the next Jerry Rice. Sorry. :)


I've always appreciated the Lions and I'm kind of disappointed they didn't stick with Joey Harrington but what can you do. Still, they throw the ball a lot (Kitna had 4000+ yards last season).

Prospect wise, Calvin Johnson might be the best to come along in many years though.

[spiderman9797]

If they can get past the Bears. If they do, I'm going to be rooting for them to win as I've come to love that team.
I root for basically anyone that beats the Saints (in the long run), to be honest. Because that way, the Saints can say "well, we only got knocked out by the Superbowl Champs".

I guess last year was an exception, but I was rooting more for Peyton Manning than I was for the Colts. If Peyton was on the Bears team, I would have voted for the Bears. I just felt that people were saying that Peyton was the Dan Marino of today's game: a great quarterback that choked and couldn't win a Superbowl.

It's amazing how lopsided the Conferences are, though. The AFC is so noticeably better than the NFC.

[Frontman]

That's why the Bears losing the Superbowl didn't bother me. Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy are both great guys for the league, and I was happy to see them finally win.

Hell, Devin Hester made Superbowl history with a kickoff return. That alone made the Superbowl fun for me as a Bears fan.

[spiderman9797]

That's why the Bears losing the Superbowl didn't bother me. Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy are both great guys for the league, and I was happy to see them finally win.

Hell, Devin Hester made Superbowl history with a kickoff return. That alone made the Superbowl fun for me as a Bears fan.
I guess Colts, Bears, and Saints fans are all pretty happy right now.

Peyton finally won a well-deserved Superbowl.

Hester made history in the Superbowl, and broke an important record (by 2 touchdowns, I believe).

The Saints played one of the most memorable seasons in all of NFL, and are now virtually "America's Team".

[mike_houghton]

No way! The Browns are Americas team :)

[spiderman9797]

I don't know if you'll agree with me, Front, but I really believe that the Bears need to find someone to replace Mike Brown.

Not that he is a bad D-Back (he's pretty solid), he just gets injured far too much. I don't remember a season where he has played a full 14 games.

[DocDoom187]

LT should just be the Chargers QB. They should let him run, but have huim QB, a la Michael Vic ;)

[Frontman]

God that stunk.

At least it wasn't Grossman to "cost" the Bears the game as much as the turnovers by the Bears RB's. Thankfully, the Chargers didn't play THAT much better, otherwise it would been a bloodletting.

What annoyed me is that I watched the Jets/Patriots game, and even on a bum foot, Pennington led the Jets to a better performance than the Bears put up.

[spiderman9797]

God that stunk.

At least it wasn't Grossman to "cost" the Bears the game as much as the turnovers by the Bears RB's. Thankfully, the Chargers didn't play THAT much better, otherwise it would been a bloodletting.

What annoyed me is that I watched the Jets/Patriots game, and even on a bum foot, Pennington led the Jets to a better performance than the Bears put up.
Hey, man, I'm a Saints fan so it's not as bad as it could be.:disappoin

On another note, the Patriots looked better offensively than I even thought they would.

[NeoShazam]

I enjoy the bears and only read on the web about it. Me and my dad wondered why they let Jones go. Benson is younger but seemed to fumble more...and he runs more upright, instead of the downhill running of Jones : and Jones just took over that New Orleans playoff game.

Defense is still awesome. Offense still needs work.

[malakim2099]

Well, the Vikings fill me with a touch of hope... mainly because of Adrian Peterson. And Tarvaris wasn't as horrible as I feared. He did okay, which I can live with. And I love our defense still. Hehehehe.

[Frontman]

I enjoy the bears and only read on the web about it. Me and my dad wondered why they let Jones go. Benson is younger but seemed to fumble more...and he runs more upright, instead of the downhill running of Jones : and Jones just took over that New Orleans playoff game.

Defense is still awesome. Offense still needs work.

Comes down to money. The Bears took Benson at #4 overall, and paid top 5 money for the kid. He's talented, and only by playing will he get even better. Jones, while he had a career year last year, is only getting older, and I'm doubtful that he'll be as good this year as last year.

[Charaxes]

Damn you, Devin Hester...

I gotta give him credit though, that was a great return.

[spiderman9797]

And a fantasy coach in my league decided to field the Eagles' Special Teams over the Bears' Special Teams this week.:cheeky: :confused:

[DocDoom187]

Damn you, Devin Hester...

I gotta give him credit though, that was a great return.
He's the best in the biz.

[Frontman]

The Windy City Flyer Goes

All


The


Way!!!

[DocDoom187]

Grossman's so unpredictable, he's predictable. Like, I started him knowing he'd do great since he sucked last outing.

[malakim2099]

Grossman's so unpredictable, he's predictable. Like, I started him knowing he'd do great since he sucked last outing.

Fantasy 2007 Rule #4: Whoever is playing against Kansas City, start them. :p

[DocDoom187]

Fantasy 2007 Rule #4: Whoever is playing against Kansas City, start them. :p
Whats 1-3?:grin:

[spiderman9797]

Whats 1-3?:grin:
1. Field whatever defense is playing against Oakland.

[malakim2099]

1. Field whatever defense is playing against Oakland.

2. Field whatever defense is playing against Minnesota (much as it pains me to admit it).

3. Field Peyton Manning. Always. Even if he's playing against the Cyberball Deathbot Defense. :p

[NeoShazam]

Watching the closing moments of CHI/DAL.
Ugly.

I still don't like Benson. Aside from the last 2 interceptions I think Grossman did okay...I might even have him start rolling out to get him moving , that scramble seemed to get him in the game. The games I watch of Chicago, it seems like their defense is on the field all game long.

And that string of injuries was ridiculous.

[Frontman]

Rex needs a #1 wideout, someone who will finish out running routes.

Unlike Mushin Muhammed. I like Moose, but he's at best a #2, if not #3 receiver at this point in his career.

Benson I like. That fumble could of been ruled either way.

The officals last night sucked to high heaven. Shameful performance.

[Thawmus]

They need some better running. Chicago's Defense had the game held up pretty well until the second half, when they lost endurance. A much better running game will help that tremendously.

Dallas' defense really isn't worth a hill of beans, though. I'm kinda disappointed that Chicago couldn't get anything going at all last night. Dallas' D is terrible.

[spiderman9797]

I was thinking "Wow, Chicago's D isn't much anymore", and then I realized that they lost 3 starters including Lance Briggs. And if you add Mike Brown, they are playing with 7 starters which isn't good at all.

That, and Dallas has an amazing offense right now, with Marion Barber turning out to be one of the best, if not -the- best, Running Backs in the NFC (right now anyway).

I'm more dissapointed and upset that Chicago is losing so many starters on Defense than anything.:ermm:

Oh, and I believe that if Rex Grossman is this bad over the course of the next 3 games, they need to consider putting in Brian.

I also agree that trading Thomas Jones was a bad idea. Having that one-two punch of speed and power was great, but now it's just Benson who really isn't all that great at all.

I don't doubt that the Bears will bounce back, they just won't be the team that they were last year (more due to injuries and the Packers being good than anything).

[NeoShazam]

Rex needs a #1 wideout, someone who will finish out running routes.

Unlike Mushin Muhammed. I like Moose, but he's at best a #2, if not #3 receiver at this point in his career.

Benson I like. That fumble could of been ruled either way.

The officals last night sucked to high heaven. Shameful performance.

Agreed...I took like 9 replays but I saw his knee down before the ball was out. Also, was I the only one who saw Demarcus Ware trip Rex Grossman for that sack that ended halftime ? Everybody was so hung up on the half expiring before giving the cowboys a chance, I thought Chicago should've gotten another shot.

[spiderman9797]

Now, I admit I certainly didn't expect Coach Smith to bench Rex Grossman -this- week. That seems to go against what he felt about Rex all year last year. It's the right move, but it just seems odd.

[Frontman]

Now, I admit I certainly didn't expect Coach Smith to bench Rex Grossman -this- week. That seems to go against what he felt about Rex all year last year. It's the right move, but it just seems odd.

It's a PR move, nothing more. Within weeks the fanbase will be crying for another change, as the Bears O isn't very good.

It means its years until a return to the Superbowl.

:ermm:

[spiderman9797]

It's a PR move, nothing more. Within weeks the fanbase will be crying for another change, as the Bears O isn't very good.

It means its years until a return to the Superbowl.

:ermm:
*waves at Frontman*

Jump in the boat, man!:laugh:

(actually, we have a separate boat for those who have NEEVVVVVERRRRR been to a Superbowl) :ermm:

[Frontman]

Oh trust me, I've seen a World Series and a Superbowl championship in my lifetime. My Grandfather, God rest his soul, never saw a Superbowl win. He saw the Bears "championships" (prior to the unification era) but never saw the World Series win.

Its just a kick in the gut that last year, we were riding high on top of the NFC, and in 3 weeks time, we get the "throw in the towel" approach. Contrary to commentary, I don't think Greise will be the answer.

Maybe McNabb will want to move back home.........

[spiderman9797]

I'm pretty sure Donovan would be a pretty good cure to the Bears. But don't expect the Eagles to give him up easily.

It's also worth noting that I really believe the Bears just need a good number 1 receiver. Maybe they can somehow get a great receiver that plays number 2 on a team with other another amazing Wideout (Terry Glenn, Anquan Boldin, T.J. Housyamomma, etc.). Not that likely, but it is possible.

[Frontman]

I'm pretty sure Donovan would be a pretty good cure to the Bears. But don't expect the Eagles to give him up easily.

It's also worth noting that I really believe the Bears just need a good number 1 receiver. Maybe they can somehow get a great receiver that plays number 2 on a team with other another amazing Wideout (Terry Glenn, Anquan Boldin, T.J. Housyamomma, etc.). Not that likely, but it is possible.

The Bears need the following, in my opinion:

A #1 Wideout that defenses have to gameplan around.

B A few younger faces on the O-line. That's an old O-line, and its beginning to show.

C Next season, a QB competition for the #1 slot. (Yes, I would suggest re-signing Rex Grossman. I think with a lights out WR and a stronger O-line, he and Greise could compete for the #1 position.)

[spiderman9797]

Competition for the #1 starting QB spot is usually a good idea, in my mind. Take for instance Jake Delhomme and David Carr. Jake stepped his game up because he knew if he didn't, the fairly talented David Carr would take his spot.

But a number 1 wideout would be great. I think the Saints really need that, too. Colston is a great receiver, especially if you need that 5-20 yards, as he will catch anything you throw at him, but he isn't a deep threat.

[Frontman]

Competition for the #1 starting QB spot is usually a good idea, in my mind. Take for instance Jake Delhomme and David Carr. Jake stepped his game up because he knew if he didn't, the fairly talented David Carr would take his spot.

But a number 1 wideout would be great. I think the Saints really need that, too. Colston is a great receiver, especially if you need that 5-20 yards, as he will catch anything you throw at him, but he isn't a deep threat.

And the Bears have got the deep threat in Berrian (who won't be catching stuff any time soon, with Brian throwing to him) they don't have the juke and jive receiver like Steve Smith, TO, or Boldin.

[NeoShazam]

I wouldn't write the Bears off yet. I like Griese, still have a problem with Benson, and your correct Muhammed isn't there. They've got to go back to hitting Desmond Clark and Berrian.

What is the status of Mike Brown ?

[spiderman9797]

So, Front, about that boat?:cheeky:

[Frontman]

I wouldn't write the Bears off yet. I like Griese, still have a problem with Benson, and your correct Muhammed isn't there. They've got to go back to hitting Desmond Clark and Berrian.

What is the status of Mike Brown ?

Well, its a few things.

Benson needs to toughen himself up to the fact that his line isn't going to make the openings like he had in college. I saw some strong down field running from him in the second half.

Clark will get some touches, Berrian now is basically useless to this offense with Griese behind center. Griese does not stretch the field at all. And seeing how all of his INT's were over 10 yards downfield, he's going to get gun-shy throwing far if he doesn't have some success.

I was proud of the first three quarters out of the defense. They held on as well as many of the actual starters.

Mike Brown is done for the year, on IR. Which means he's probably done not only as a Bear, but as a starter on any team.

And I don't need a boat, record-setting swimmer here!

I even swim in shark infested waters in lunchmeat wetsuits.

ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!

[spiderman9797]

I'm on a swim team currently, but I know when I need a boat.:cheeky:

Actually, with the Bears, Saints, and Rams all stinking it up I don't feel all that bad about my Saints being horrible as well. Those 3 were supposed to be the best in the NFC this year, and for some reason they just aren't doing much.

I think that the Saints and the Bears will bounce back, but I have my doubts about the Rams. Unlike the Rams, the Saints and Bears aren't suffering from O-lineman disease, where 4 of your O-linemen aren't playing. The Rams have so many injuries that it looks like their season isn't going to be too good. The Bears have a good number of injuries, but most of them should come back besides Mike Brown (but hey, the Bears are used to playing without him). The Saints are missing Deuce the whole season, as well as Jason David for a few games but JD will be back and Reggie will learn how to run (Stecker isn't a bad backup, either).

[malakim2099]

And I don't need a boat, record-setting swimmer here!

I even swim in shark infested waters in lunchmeat wetsuits.

ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!

Hey, the Bears have the same record as the Vikings! It's all good!

Oh, wait, you probably wanted encouragement... :p

[NeoShazam]

I like Marc Bulger more than the next guy but I have no idea where this Rams talk started from : )

I still think the Bears are okay. Wait until week 7 to evaluate their record and then go from there. Griese had a good day of pass yardage and the way they huddled around him after the Passing TD is a very good sign. He'll shake off the INTs and rust soon enough.

But I'm still gonna ride them about Benson, he's just not a solo back.
In the same vein I detest when people talk about how great Marion Barber is... Julius Jones plays against the first team at their best, he makes Marion better.

[batfink]

For the 1st time this year, people are actually praising a Chicago QB.

[Frontman]

Still have a ton of work to do. They need to ditch their signal caller (Not Greise, Ron Tuner. Good Gawd, he calls crappy series.)

Benson better start delivering, and they need to take and win next week for me to think they've got a chance this season.

[batfink]

I agree. They have to beat Minn. next week.

[spiderman9797]

I think they'll win this game, but there is no doubt that Adrian Peterson is a special player with absolutely incredible talent. He IS the offense of the Vikings, and while that may be incredibly unbalanced, he is so good that it still works.

If I were a Bears fan I wouldn't be happy that my team would have to play Adrian 2 times a year for many years to come.

[malakim2099]

I agree. They have to beat Minn. next week.

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!

I'd like to thank the Bears (lack of) run defense to get the Vikings their second win of the season. Danke! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[spiderman9797]

Adrian Peterson...

Talk about "taking control of the game".:surprised

[batfink]

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!

I'd like to thank the Bears (lack of) run defense to get the Vikings their second win of the season. Danke! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Frontman]

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!!

I'd like to thank the Bears (lack of) run defense to get the Vikings their second win of the season. Danke! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

I'm going to cite this post next time someone says I abuse my power as a moderator, considering malakim can still post after it. ;)

That was a hell of a game. Besides Peterson and Hester, neither team played exceptionally well. As they lined up for the Field Goal, I told my wife; "If Longwell hits this, a career record? Vikings deserve the W."

Hats off to the Vikings.

But Hester is a TON of fun to watch. Man, that kid is a phenom.

[malakim2099]

I'm going to cite this post next time someone says I abuse my power as a moderator, considering malakim can still post after it. ;)

Let me just be the first to say that if neg rep still existed... I would so have gotten nuked by Frontman into rep oblivion for that.

And I couldn't exactly blame him either. ;)

That was a hell of a game. Besides Peterson and Hester, neither team played exceptionally well. As they lined up for the Field Goal, I told my wife; "If Longwell hits this, a career record? Vikings deserve the W."

Hats off to the Vikings.

But Hester is a TON of fun to watch. Man, that kid is a phenom.

I wish I could have watched it here... I was forced to watch Packers/Redskins instead. But Hester always scares the daylights out of me, for good reason. Adrian Peterson, if he keeps this up, is going to give LDT competition for the "MUST TAKE #1 IN FFL DRAFT" status.

[Shadow40]

Adrian Peterson...

Talk about "taking control of the game".:surprised


I'm not surprised by Adrian Peterson. I went to OU at the same time he was playing and even met the guy ( he is one nice and cool dude). He dominated when he was healthy (only knock on him I can thing of) and almost won the Heisman when he was a Freshman. I managed to pick him up in all my Fantasy Leagues on draft day because I knew he had potential and he hasn't left my starting lineup except for the bye week.

[NeoShazam]

I'm going to cite this post next time someone says I abuse my power as a moderator, considering malakim can still post after it. ;)

That was a hell of a game. Besides Peterson and Hester, neither team played exceptionally well. As they lined up for the Field Goal, I told my wife; "If Longwell hits this, a career record? Vikings deserve the W."

Hats off to the Vikings.

But Hester is a TON of fun to watch. Man, that kid is a phenom.

It was all about big plays...they gave up a 60 yard TD pass as well. The Yardage of the TDs was like 200-300 yards , and a last second bomb kick of Longwell...yeah, unfortunately they deserved to lose that one.

If they lose next week I'll consider them in trouble, but I'm still on board for another week.

[Thawmus]

I continually despise the poor coaching decisions by the Chicago Bears.

Brian should have been in a LONG time ago. I know he's throwing picks, but he's not letting that faze him at all. He's hitting his tight end when he needs to, and WR1 and 2 are finally getting the ball again.

And Devin Hester should have been getting passes thrown to him a LONG time ago. Now whenever he decides to line up in a 3 wide or 4 wide, he's going to be getting extra coverage. Do you know what that means??? That means WR1 and 2 are going to be open. This isn't rocket science. :rolleyes: He gets one pass thrown to him, and runs for 89 yards and a TD with it. Gee, I wonder if he's worth putting in formation?? :noid:

I don't know what these guys are thinking anymore. They continually find a recipe for success, and find some way to keep themselves from using it. If they were playing offense like this last year, when their defense wasn't all banged up, they would not have been talking about their QB's struggles going into the playoffs, and they would not have lost in the Super Bowl. Now they're missing the other half of their team, and they can't help it because they can't run the football well enough to keep them off the field.

I really like watching Chicago play, but this is getting very painful.

[NeoShazam]

That was one of the most exciting games I've ever seen !

[spiderman9797]

That catch by Berrian was one of the best catches I've ever seen. My hats to the Bears for that awesome comeback. Too bad their division is so hard to win.

[Frontman]

*checks pulse, heart's still ticking*

Holy crow, that's what makes Bears football fun. Most of my life, the Bears have never been "dominant;" (last season, and those two seasons in the mid-80's notwithstanding) but they are a team that scraps out wins.

DEVIN HESTER YOU ARE REDICULOUS!!!! (Which was the radio call for his first multi-return game last season; so it fits today.)

[spiderman9797]

I remember wishing someone would slap that sports reporter that said last week that the kick returner of the Browns was the best special teams player in the game.

You can't be the best special teams player in the game if another team has the best special teams player ever.

The guys is awesome, and what's crazy is that people STILL KICK TO HIM. That's one guy that the opposing team can actually control what he does, and they choose not to.

[Frontman]

I remember wishing someone would slap that sports reporter that said last week that the kick returner of the Browns was the best special teams player in the game.

You can't be the best special teams player in the game if another team has the best special teams player ever.

The guys is awesome, and what's crazy is that people STILL KICK TO HIM. That's one guy that the opposing team can actually control what he does, and they choose not to.

Well, its pick your poison. Give the ball to the Bears at the 40 (if not better) or get Hester either behind the 20, mid-field, or he breaks it open and gives the Bears 6. If the Bears had a mid-range passing game, they'd be lethal. Sadly, if it isn't Grossman (who has played well these 3 games back. If he continues to play well for the rest of the season, I'll be the first Bears fan saying re-sign him. You know what you have, and he's growing as a QB. To go with Greise is such a horrid step back its not even funny.)

As far as the media never giving the Bears and their players credit; its nothing new. Its so freakin' sad that when they talk "greatest football player ever" you RARELY hear Walter Payton mentioned, who was by far the greatest football player EVER.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GO2d8aUvHNg

''He was the best football player I've ever seen, and probably one of the best people I've ever met.'' - Mike Ditka

''Walter exemplified class, and all of us in sports should honor him by striving to perpetuate his standard of excellence. The tremendous grace and dignity he displayed in his final months reminded us again why 'Sweetness' was the perfect nickname for Walter Payton.'' - NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue.

"As far as I'm concerned, I thought he was the greatest. With the teams he played on, and what he did, missing only one to two games his whole career. And, on top of that, he was just a great guy.'' - Hall of Fame running back Franco Harris. [For the record, it was only one game his rookie year. He suited up. The coach chose not to play him.]

''I think Walter's legacy will be that of a man with a God-given ability that got the most out of it at every possible chance. He did it with pride, he did it with dignity, he did it with respect for the game.'' - brother Eddie Payton

Now, you'd think with comments like that, he'd always be remembered when discussing "the best" or "the greatest." Nope, when it comes to running backs, its always Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, then Emmitt Smith. Maybe LT gets a nod from some. But Walter is overlooked by the media quite a bit. Thankfully, Walter's image graces the set of the NFL studios, and the man of the year award is named for him. It's a lasting tribute to THE BEST FOOTBALL PLAYER EVER.

Today, Devin Hester passed Gayle Sayers for kickout/punt returns. He has, in less than 30 games; surpassed entire careers of some great and Hall of Fame caliber players. Barring injury, Hester will enter the Hall, hopefully in about 15-20 years.

And I wonder if anyone will ever speak of him as being greater than Deion Sanders; who has gone on record already.

"In a season and a half; Devin Hester has done more than I have done in my entire career. Come on now, I WISH I was that good." D. Sanders

[NeoShazam]

It's getting dim in here.

Bears looked horrible after Grossman went down. I thought they were well on their way to 7-0 victory over the Redskins. And the Giants sneaking back in was rough too.

[batfink]

Kyle looks good. Do you think Lovie will drop Rexy next year?

[Frontman]

Kyle looks good. Do you think Lovie will drop Rexy next year?

I have a feeling Rex has played his last game as a Bear, which disappoints me. Kyle might of earned himself to at least compete for the job.

I just can't believe that Brett couldn't get anything accomplished in that cold weather. He's the quarterback FOR THE FREAKIN' GREEN BAY PACKERS!!!!!

As the old NFL films would put it,

"From the frozen tundra known as Lambeau Field....."

I see it being a Cowboys/Patriots Superbowl.

[batfink]

I'd rather see the Colts, but I believe you're correct.

[NeoShazam]

I have a feeling Rex has played his last game as a Bear, which disappoints me. Kyle might of earned himself to at least compete for the job.

I see it being a Cowboys/Patriots Superbowl.

Cowboys/Patriots is probably the odds on favorite to reach the Superbowl. I'd agree as of about 3 weeks ago, but to me things have changed.

I'm really sensing the Colts will beat the Patriots in the Playoffs. They had a great game plan and with Harrison back they'll have enough to win. I'm not sure if their pass rushers will be back but I think the Colts will man up and beat them. Jacksonville is tough enough and plays to all of New England's weaknesses but I don't think they are ready to beat them yet.

I think Packers beat the Cowboys. Woodson comes back from injury and contains the injured TO. The young players after winning a playoff game will have the confidence to hang with Dallas. Plus I think Brett Favre will make a choice between his ego and winning. Last time when they got down he came out and tried to throw bomb after bomb to get them back in it, they need to unleash Robert Grant on them and just pound out the clock...just like Indianapolis needs to use Addai to do to New England.
I think they are smart enough, and winning will be more important to the prestigious QBs than the stats.