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Peers
09/05/2007, 15:01
Welcome, all, to the start of my fourth HCRealms Mafia game.

In the interest of not having to type (or cut-n-paste), please refer to the other Mafia threads' opening posts if you have questions about how the game is played. If you still have questions after reading those, feel free to PM me.

Remember, no copying of PMs from me, no communicating about the game outside this thread, and no posting in this thread once you are dead.

This game will be HeroClix themed. What does that mean? It means the 'town' for this game is... the Powers and Abilities Card. If your role is PAC Aligned, it means you are part of the good guys. If not, well, you've been sent instructions with your role. The PAC wins when all threats to them have been removed.

There will also be one other thing different about this game... we will begin on Night 0, since all you kids tend to vote 'no lynch' the first day anyway.

This thread will be updated once all role PMs have been sent out.

Peers
09/05/2007, 16:37
All PMs have been sent out.

Night 0 has begun. You have 24 hours to sent me any targets for your powers. If you have a 'must' power, you must send me a target or one will be chosen for you. If you have a 'may' power and decide not to use it, please tell me "No, thank you, I'll pass tonight".

Thread will be unlocked in 24 hours.

Peers
09/05/2007, 17:15
Current Player List:

amora's_best_friend
antipathy
batfink
biz567
calabolg
CarlosMucha --DEAD, Night 0
charlesx
DocDoom187
Doombot 3.1
Gambit
IronHam
JacinB
JackAssterson
JackofHearts2005
KitsuShel
kontrol
lensnart
Magnito
melkhor
Rokk_Krinn
scehaono
Scott Neelan
St-Dumas
thawmus -- DEAD, Night 0
The Vision
theanalogkid
TMNT99
Vicious x

Peers
09/06/2007, 11:23
Due to very happy circumstances beyond his control, charlesx is needing to drop out of the game.

Unless someone outside the game tells me they want to play, I'll randomly pick a dead PAC member to take his place in Day 1.

Peers
09/06/2007, 16:18
charlesx has been replaced by KaineMac.

Deadline extended until tomorrow morning so he doesn't feel left out... and so the rest of you can actually send in your PMs.

Peers
09/07/2007, 12:13
For the record, whenever someone is targetted by multiple other people, everyone gets a random number and we go in order, highest to lowest. Why do I tell you this? Because you all seem to go for the same targets.

Night 0 is over!

The assembled powers, team abilities, feats, BFCs, figures, and rules knew they were all gathered together for a purpose. The game was changing... some called it a natural evolution, others called it 'HeroClix 2.0'. But the hope was, by all working together, the game could change peacefully.

It hope was in vain. As Thawmus worked hard into the night in his corner office, writing up his plans for a structured, ordered change to the rules, he was struck down... not by a single assassin's bullet, but by two, from opposite windows. The game was afoot.

Word spread quickly. Everyone began their plans of what they would need to do.

For CarlosMucha, the decision was obvious. He had to do what was right. Whether he sought to protect his target, or he sought to protect others from them... well, we would never know. A pair of large (I wouldn't call them -giant-, honestly) hands came out of the shadows and grabbed him by the throat, throttling him until he was dead.

In another dark alleyway, a force for change made his move. He knew he would need powerful allies... and who better to seek out than another who once changed the face of the game? The two spoke at great length, and an agreement was reached... one that would cause others to quake in fear once it was revealed.

And finally, far atop HeroClix Tower, one man stared off into the distance. He had been so certain that one man deserved to be pushed off this elevated terrain... and he was so certain that the man had been up here. So where was he?

Thawmus is dead. He was Mind Control, PAC-Aligned Mastermind Of Using People Against Other People.

CarlosMucha is dead. He was Barrier, PAC-Aligned Creator Of Walls Around People.

The first day has begun! Given the weekend, we will end the day phase on Monday at noon CST, or when we reach a majority vote. With 26 people remaining, 14 is normally a majority vote.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 12:24
Wow. It sounds like 2 Townies with neato abilities went down. the cult of personality strikes again. Anyone have any leads?

KitsuShel
09/07/2007, 12:26
Oh my. Two down for the townies. :(

No lynch

We need more info and can't risk losing anyone else on the first day.

kontrol
09/07/2007, 12:27
Yeah, it's looking like Thawmus and Carlos are quickly replacing JackAsserton for night one target.

batfink
09/07/2007, 12:28
:nervous: No Lynch :nervous:

Melkhor
09/07/2007, 12:31
Damn! That is one unfortunate start for us. I've got nothing myself, but does anyone else have *anything* we can use here?

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 12:42
I say KaineMak, because the only reason someone would have needed that big of a deadline extension was if he had allies to communicate with and that usually means Mafia. :cheeky:

batfink
09/07/2007, 12:44
Wow! Rokk doesn't have to talk in riddles!

kontrol
09/07/2007, 12:45
From the write up we can pretty much safely assume that Carlos was either a protector and/or a roleblocker. The write up implies he could be both, though I'd think only one on any given night. I'm guessing Mind control would change someone's vote to something else.

There were two people that Targeted Thawmus.
One person that targeted Carlos
And one person that tried to target somebody else but for whatever reason missed.

That's 4 killers out there.

There's also a recruiter out there.

Kit I understand your reluctance to go and lynch someone, but with 4 possible killers and most likely only one townie aligned (and they probably don't even have many clues to target anyone outside of what's posted), we're behind the 8 ball. This doesn't even begin to address the recruiter out there. We're looking at losing a potential 5 characters a night here (4 from death +1 from recruiting), with no chance of taking out a mafia target or recruiter if we don't vote for someone.

Now I'm changeable on who I vote for, but I'm firing out a shot now

[b]Vote: Vicious X[b]

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 12:46
Wow! Rokk doesn't have to talk in riddles!

It's a nice change (though that usually leads to me making up for "lost time" by being yappier...ergo, my orneryness towards KM :laugh: ).

kontrol
09/07/2007, 12:46
Vote: Viciousx

scehaono
09/07/2007, 12:48
i'm lost, why is vicious targeted so early? (i mean, he was the serial killer in the arkham game, but doesn't mean he is one here...)

batfink
09/07/2007, 12:49
:nervous: any reason why we should lynch viscious as opposed to anyone else? :nervous:

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 12:51
Vote: No Lynch for now.
I would hate to take out Support, Perplex, Outwit, or Prob with a blind shot.

kontrol
09/07/2007, 12:52
Reason.

Well, some people float under the radar quite often. I think it's good to heat the coals sometimes so to speak.

That and going after Jack is so blase at this point.

Doombot 3.1
09/07/2007, 12:55
We need to lynch someone. The best case outcome is that we get a mafia member/serial killer/recruiter. The more likely outcome is that we get a townie. But that narrows down the list of suspects, which helps us in the long run.

While I don't know anything about what Vicious is doing in this game, we need to start somewhere. Unless someone found out something last night, I will

VOTE: Vicious X

kontrol
09/07/2007, 12:59
And in addition, something Peers said in an earlier game stuck with me. Using the Day Phase as an interrogation tool.

The simple fact of the matter is now that we don't have an initial day phase, we gave the Mafia (probably multiple) a freebie. Two people died because of it. The things that got revealed were.

2 snipers on Thawmus
1 large killer on Carlos
1 killer that missed a target
1 recruiter that was successful.

That's what we're going into the next night phase facing. 5 potential losses for the townie side (PAC-aligned). Unless we get lucky and they all target each other.

scehaono
09/07/2007, 12:59
i understand the logic of going after a someone as soon as possible, i was just hoping there was something more to going after vicious than blind luck

Vote: viciousx

kontrol
09/07/2007, 13:04
i understand the logic of going after a someone as soon as possible, i was just hoping there was something more to going after vicious than blind luck

Vote: viciousx
I understand that too, but we have to keep in mind that in order for us to have more than blind luck, we'd need the tracker and/or cop to come clean way too early.

Doombot 3.1
09/07/2007, 13:09
I understand that too, but we have to keep in mind that in order for us to have more than blind luck, we'd need the tracker and/or cop to come clean way too early.

Normally, I think it's okay for one cop/tracker to come clean. That gives us useful information and enables the doctor to protect him.

However, given that Carlos may have been the protector, I think our cops and trackers should hold off revealing themselves unless they have some really great information. Hopefully, we have a second protector out there (Support? Defend?), but we can't be sure. If someone out there can protect others, do not reveal yourself or your target under any circumstances.

The Vision
09/07/2007, 13:14
I'm all for lynching sombody, but what is the logic behind Vicious?

Is there a reason or is this just a shot in the dark?

Doombot 3.1
09/07/2007, 13:15
I'm all for lynching sombody, but what is the logic behind Vicious?

Is there a reason or is this just a shot in the dark?

Just a shot in the dark. Unless someone found out something ...

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 13:15
Just a shot in the dark so far.

The Vision
09/07/2007, 13:16
OK, I read everything that had been posted between when started to post and when I actually did post.

Vote: Vicous-X

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 13:47
What if I told folks I could tell you a member of the Cardboard Mafia and it's not Vicious X? I don't want anyone to roleclaim they can protect me but someone might want to consider doing so as I can hand over plenty of membes. :)

Just a warning - one of them has the ability to double all of their votes except for his, giving them 7 votes during the Day Phase (as they currently have four members).

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 13:58
So the BFC's and Feats are the Mafia. Cool. Any insight would be helpful.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 13:59
What if I told folks I could tell you a member of the Cardboard Mafia and it's not Vicious X?

Then I would say go ahead. Nobody's going to roleclaim protective abilities, but any smart townie who's able would protect you if you really have vital knowledge.

Doombot 3.1
09/07/2007, 14:03
What if I told folks I could tell you a member of the Cardboard Mafia and it's not Vicious X? I don't want anyone to roleclaim they can protect me but someone might want to consider doing so as I can hand over plenty of membes. :)

Just a warning - one of them has the ability to double all of their votes except for his, giving them 7 votes during the Day Phase (as they currently have four members).

I say go ahead.

After that post, I imagine that you've made yourself a target for the mafia. It makes sense to tell us what you know rather than run the risk that your information dies with you.

Anybody who can protect you should do so. (But without saying anything.)

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 14:21
I'm with you guys.

Go ahead and tell us who is a baddie, Rokk.

Sidenote: Carlos wasn't the Doc. From the description of his powers, he's obviously a "jailkeeper." Whoever he targets can't be killed, but they can't do anything either. "Whether he sought to protect his target, or he sought to protect others from them"

We should still have a straight up Doctor (or perhaps bodyguard) in "Defend."

kontrol
09/07/2007, 14:22
Man, any information is better than none.

By now the Doctor should know what to do.

Iron Ham
09/07/2007, 14:25
Guesses (I doubt all of these are here, with a cardboard mafia):

Barrier - Jailer
Mind Control - My role from mafia 2, but with live people
Duo Figure or Flurry - Votes count for two
Outwit - Role Blocker
Defend - Bodyguard
Support - Doctor
Impervious - Cannot be nightkilled
Steal Energy - Serial Killer
Probability Control - Misdirector
Perplex... wow, maybe another misdirector? or a role blocker?
Psychic Blast - Vigilante or cop
Exploit Weakness - Vigilante?

The Vision
09/07/2007, 14:26
Spill dude.

filler

St-Dumas
09/07/2007, 14:26
I'm always up for a good witch hunt.

Lynch vote: vicious_x

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 14:30
I can provide the name of two members today.

The first is the Don of the Cardboard Mafia - Rally - played by KitsuShel. Besides normal Don capabilities, she can (surprise!) Rally the group once they have lost a member, enabling them to make two hits during the Night Phase.

The second member is Antipathy, Brilliant Tactician. He's the voting booster and is the one who steps up to take Shel's place upon removal.

They also have a member who can not be found, targeted, etc. during the Night Phase and another that can Nova Blast (and is the one who carried out the hit last night).

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 14:32
How do you know all this, Rokk?

I mean, that is a LOT of information from one night.

Magnito
09/07/2007, 14:33
Dare I ask how you know so much?

Iron Ham
09/07/2007, 14:33
Maybe he's Fastball Special, the traitor? :p

St-Dumas
09/07/2007, 14:37
Change vote: Rokk_Krinn

His knowledge is vey suspicious.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 14:37
Vote: KitsuShel

We actually have a reason for this one, as opposed to v-x. Insert "if Rokk is lying we lynch him" statement.

Also wondering about how Rokk knows, but it may not be a good idea for him to tell us this early.

Magnito
09/07/2007, 14:38
If Rokk is correct, we should probably Lynch either Kit or Antipathy. If it turns out we got one of our own, then we can always lynch Rokk next for supplying falce info.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 14:38
Change vote: Rokk_Krinn

His knowledge is vey suspicious.

I would suggest we not start lynching people who are providing information. This sets a bad rpecedent.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 14:38
Or maybe he is Sabatour.

St-Dumas
09/07/2007, 14:38
I think it would be safer if we booted the supposed underling.

Change vote: Antipathy

Magnito
09/07/2007, 14:39
What the heck. Kit, you know I love ya, but my vote is to
Lynch: KitsuShel

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 14:40
I think it would be safer if we booted the supposed underling.

Change vote: Antipathy

Rokk's story is that Kit can allow two hits per night. It is far safer to lynch Kit, assuming everything is kosher.

scehaono
09/07/2007, 14:40
jeez rokk, did you sell your soul to peers to get all this?!?!

St-Dumas
09/07/2007, 14:42
Rokk's story is that Kit can allow two hits per night. It is far safer to lynch Kit, assuming everything is kosher.

If Rokk is telling the truth, then we can just get Shel tomorrow. If not, we could be lynching a cop or something.

I stand by my vote.

scehaono
09/07/2007, 14:42
lynch shel

Magnito
09/07/2007, 14:42
Why does Rokk always get the fun roles. I want a fun role.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 14:42
If Rokk is telling the truth, then we can just get Shel tomorrow.

After she's had the chance to make two more hits instead of one.

Not good math in my book.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 14:43
That's quite the power to get that kind of detail of not one but 2 Mafia people. This early, that is qiute the shot in the dark.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 14:45
If Rokk is correct, we should probably Lynch either Kit or Antipathy. If it turns out we got one of our own, then we can always lynch Rokk next for supplying falce info.

Exactly. Lynch one of them to check my verification. If I'm wrong - and I know I'm not - I'll gladly submit to lynching. No small print here.

Vote - KitsuShel

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 14:46
Why does Rokk always get the fun roles. I want a fun role.

It's not a fun role. Well, it would have been but someone hit me with a heck of a one-shot power and a -very- lucky guess.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 14:47
I'm wary of this information, but its oh so tempting.

Vote: KitsuShel

Sidenote: These is probably a second mafia/serial killer, since two guns shots killed Thawmus.

The Vision
09/07/2007, 14:47
Lynch KitsuShel

Seems like the best thing to do.

If Rokk is wrong then he becomes the target.

If he is right, then we well are on our way to surviving this.

Magnito
09/07/2007, 14:48
...it's gotta be more fun then mine :(

(and that's all I'm saying for now)

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 14:49
I don't have the first idea what's going on lol.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 14:49
Lynch:KitsuShel.

The Vision
09/07/2007, 14:51
Thats 7 for Shel now.

kontrol
09/07/2007, 14:54
If we go with this, we need our role blocker to block Antipathy. I'm reluctant to want to send in our vigilante after him since you know Rokk could be bluffing his arse off. And if Shel isn't the don then it doesn't make sense for our killer to go after antipathy on possibly specious information. But if he is right, vigilante feel free to go to town.

Now one thing that bothers me, is Nova Blast. That just screams mad bomber to me and that guy could have the ability to take out everybody that votes for him. We need to find out who this person is.

I'm trying to figure out what card would fit somebody that couldn't be found at night. Maybe Deep Shadows?

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 14:54
I should explain Nova Blast better.

When used, it immediately stops the Day Phase. All people who voted for the Nova Blaster may not use their Night Powers but if it affects more than one person, the Nova Blaster dies. The Nova Blast may not be used if the person had performed a hit the previous Night (which is why we're currently safe from it).

Remember, that the Mafia has 7 votes during this Day Phase thanks to Antipathy's Brilliant Tactician role.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 14:55
Or Darkness.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 14:57
If we go with this, we need our role blocker to block Antipathy. I'm reluctant to want to send in our vigilante after him since you know Rokk could be bluffing his arse off. And if Shel isn't the don then it doesn't make sense for our killer to go after antipathy on possibly specious information. But if he is right, vigilante feel free to go to town.

Agreed, which we can find out and know for certain if Shel is killed. The Mafia does not have a Protector to keep their people from being killed so if anyone keeps them alive, it's a Neutral party with shady reasons. If Shel is lynched and I'm proven correct, someone with the ability to see who targets a person might want to keep an eye on Antipathy to see how many folks try shenanigans.


I'm trying to figure out what card would fit somebody that couldn't be found at night. Maybe Deep Shadows?

It's Sneak.

kontrol
09/07/2007, 14:57
I should explain Nova Blast better.

When used, it immediately stops the Day Phase. All people who voted for the Nova Blaster may not use their Night Powers but if it affects more than one person, the Nova Blaster dies. The Nova Blast may not be used if the person had performed a hit the previous Night (which is why we're currently safe from it).

Remember, that the Mafia has 7 votes during this Day Phase thanks to Antipathy's Brilliant Tactician role.
That seems more balanced than my ramblings.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 14:59
That seems more balanced than my ramblings.

Well, it also helps being a Once-Per-Game power which is why it was likely they had the Nova Blaster perform the hit last night as they were saving the capability for when folks were onto them. Likely just wasn't expected to happen the very first Day Phase. :)

kontrol
09/07/2007, 14:59
Vote: Shel

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 14:59
I wonder why they didn't jump on the viciousx train then? With double votes, one or two could have sealed his fate.

kontrol
09/07/2007, 15:01
Well, it also helps being a Once-Per-Game power which is why it was likely they had the Nova Blaster perform the hit last night as they were saving the capability for when folks were onto them. Likely just wasn't expected to happen the very first Day Phase. :)
Yeah, now we just have to find them.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 15:01
I don't have the first idea what's going on lol.

Rokk just possibly outed two Mafia members. He says KitsuShel is the Don and Antipathy is a flunky. That's it.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:01
I wonder why they didn't jump on the viciousx train then? With double votes, one or two could have sealed his fate.

Timing? A desire to not appear anxious? Waiting to "big slide" things without warning us (I don't know if their increased votes shows while votes are being "reported" throughout the Day Phase)? I don't honestly know why but if anyone has voted for Vicious X, may I suggest at least withdrawing the vote for now - even if you don't wish to vote for Shel - so they can't take advantage of that?

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 15:02
If Rokk is lieing, we should send the vigilante after him.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:02
Rokk just possibly outed two Mafia members. He says KitsuShel is the Don and Antipathy is a flunky. That's it.

I think ABF just meant his standard "I'm not sure what to do" thing. There's strong reason to believe he knows what's going on in regards to Shel and Antipathy.

kontrol
09/07/2007, 15:03
I wonder why they didn't jump on the viciousx train then? With double votes, one or two could have sealed his fate.
Possibly he's Sneak?

That or they haven't been on to check, or maybe they wanted to play it a bit safe and spread out their votes.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:03
If Rokk is lieing, we should send the vigilante after him.

You could or being you know I'll be auto-lynch tomorrow, let the Vigilante take out someone else and then lynch me during the Day Phase (as at least this way you'll have a lead). I've already said if I'm wrong, I'll be the first person to encourage a lynch against me.

kontrol
09/07/2007, 15:04
Technically I should
Change Vote: Shel

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:04
Possibly he's Sneak?


While I can't say what role/affiliation Vicious is playing - I honestly don't know - I can safely say he's not Sneak.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 15:04
If Rokk is lieing, we should send the vigilante after him.
As opposed to lynching him, that is.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 15:05
It just seems fishy to me.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 15:05
Technically I should
Change Vote: Shel

Yeah, me too.

Just so it's kosher:

Change vote: KitsuShel

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 15:06
You could or being you know I'll be auto-lynch tomorrow, let the Vigilante take out someone else and then lynch me during the Day Phase (as at least this way you'll have a lead). I've already said if I'm wrong, I'll be the first person to encourage a lynch against me.
No.

Because my perfect plan as the Jester is to say I know that random people are mafia and when people ask how I know I say "Well, if I'm wrong, lynch me tomorrow."

If Rokk is wrong, we need to kill him at night.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:07
It just seems fishy to me.

Perfectly fair. We'll find out when the lynch is achieved. Do you really think I would be setting myself up to be killed this fast in the game though if I didn't feel I was correct?

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:08
No.

Because my perfect plan as the Jester is to say I know that random people are mafia and when people ask how I know I say "Well, if I'm wrong, lynch me tomorrow."

If Rokk is wrong, we need to kill him at night.

Excellent point - though I don't believe Peers uses the Jester - so, yes, if I'm wrong the Vigilante can kill me at Night. I recommend it based upon JoH's thoughts as that should put people at ease that I'm not the Jester.

Iron Ham
09/07/2007, 15:09
Vote: Shel

Doombot 3.1
09/07/2007, 15:11
Never fails. Leave for lunch, and all of the interesting stuff happens then. :p

VOTE: KitsuShel

Doombot 3.1
09/07/2007, 15:14
Never fails. Leave for lunch, and all of the interesting stuff happens then. :p

VOTE: KitsuShel

Actually, that should technically be:

CHANGE VOTE: KitsuShel

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 15:14
It is just such detailed info on 2 Mafia members is really lucky. And you are hinting at knowing about a third(sneak). You want to believe this was a lucky chance but I don't know.

The Vision
09/07/2007, 15:16
So by my math:

No lynch: Kit, Batfink

ViciousX: now none

Rokk: now none

Kit: JackAsserton, Magnito, scehaono, Rokk, JackofHearts, Vision, theanalogkid, Kontrol, Ironham, doombot,

Antipathy: St-Dumas

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 15:16
I hate being out when all the action happens, I have to read through like 7 different threads before I can have a real opinion.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:18
It is just such detailed info on 2 Mafia members is really lucky. And you are hinting at knowing about a third(sneak). You want to believe this was a lucky chance but I don't know.

No, I said my role would have been fun but someone used a one-shot power and got off a really lucky shot, not that -I- was lucky.

Still, if we lynch Shel, you'll see. If I'm wrong, I'm dead come night. If I'm correct, you have something to go on and more might possibly be forthcoming.

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 15:20
I think ABF just meant his standard "I'm not sure what to do" thing. There's strong reason to believe he knows what's going on in regards to Shel and Antipathy.

Yeah...


I really don't understand this lynching buisness, I get all the night stuff.


Anyhooo.

Vote : KitsuShel

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 15:21
No Lynch (2) KitsuShel, batfink
KitsuShel (11): JackAssterson, scehano, The Vision, Jackofhearts2005, Rokk Krinn, Magnito, kontrol, theanalogkid, Doombot 3.1, Iron Ham, Amora's Best Friend
Antipathy (1): St-Dumas

With 26 players still alive, 14 are needed to lynch.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 15:22
Might get more later? Why play coy now?

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 15:22
Yeah...


I really don't understand this lynching buisness, I get all the night stuff.

Then how the heck are you gonna run your own mafia game? :laugh:

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:24
Might get more later? Why play coy now?

Two possible reasons:

1) I may have more information on the way.
2) If you knew everything would you spill it, making yourself automatically useless or would you keep it?
3) Maybe I'm limited on how many people I can out at a time?

scehaono
09/07/2007, 15:24
so that leaves 12 players yet to vote,
and in case rokk is right, i hope to heck that the doctor/protector watches his back tonight

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 15:25
Then how the heck are you gonna run your own mafia game? :laugh:

Lol, I'll be leaving the lynching up to the players.

I don't understand though, I was lynched in the muppet game for voting No Lynch.

Like being a peaceful citizen.

And I was actually good-at-heart aswell, I could have been funny in the endgame, like switching sides.

scehaono
09/07/2007, 15:27
Then how the heck are you gonna run your own mafia game? :laugh:
i think he means how people reach their conclusions

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:28
Er, three possible reasons (darn edit ban :) )

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 15:29
I don't doubt the intel(voted to lynch Shel)or the source(Rokk). I wonder why you chose to give us info on 2 people and hinting you know more instead of just one. you already have a target and doc protecting you when you release just a trickle of info, why the flood?

The Vision
09/07/2007, 15:29
...I really don't understand this lynching buisness...

Imagine a bunch of townsfolk with torches and pitch forks all upset about finding some dead bodies and demanding that somone pay for it.

You either get a scapegoat or get a bad guy.

That is the theoretical basis of lynching in this game.



Now all the roles, they are new to me.

I played it in person a few times, but there were just good guys, bad guys and townsfolk. Nothing fancy at all.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 15:31
Which do you prefer,Vision? Live or Net?

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 15:31
I don't doubt the intel(voted to lynch Shel)or the source(Rokk). I wonder why you chose to give us info on 2 people and hinting you know more instead of just one. you already have a target and doc protecting you when you release just a trickle of info, why the flood?

Yeah, that does seem a bit suspicious...

Anyway, I'm over it. Any info is good.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:32
I don't doubt the intel(voted to lynch Shel)or the source(Rokk). I wonder why you chose to give us info on 2 people and hinting you know more instead of just one. you already have a target and doc protecting you when you release just a trickle of info, why the flood?

Because I gave the two members that can control the Mob's ability to make a hit. Once they're removed, the Mafia - while still needing elimination - is unable to perform Night Kills. So, my hope is that we lynch Shel (thus eliminating their Rally capability to pull off two hits tonight) and tonight someone removes Antipathy (as mentioned, the Mafia does not have a Protected capability so he shouldn't be guarded in any way).

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 15:37
Hmmm... I'm over this game.


Change vote : Rokk_krinn

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 15:37
And right off the bat the mafia is crippled? Even if there is a 3rd faction, that seems unbalanced. Besides, unless we have an auto-lyncher 2 targets does us no good. You could have given us Anti tomorrow.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:41
And right off the bat the mafia is crippled? Even if there is a 3rd faction, that seems unbalanced. Besides, unless we have an auto-lyncher 2 targets does us no good. You could have given us Anti tomorrow.

Not if we wanted him removed tonight so that the Mafia would essentially be unable to make a hit after tonight (plus I wanted folks to be aware of his double-vote capability). He's Shel's back-up, it made sense to reveal him now so that he could be targeted and folks could be warned.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 15:43
Hmmm... I'm over this game.


Change vote : Rokk_krinn

I'll reiterate what I said before: voting to lynch people who are giving you information is perhaps not the best move to make.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 15:43
Hm. We'll see.

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 15:44
Rokk is a traitor.

KILL HIM!

scehaono
09/07/2007, 15:46
Rokk is a traitor.

KILL HIM!

and now you're outing yourself?

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 15:49
and now you're outing yourself?
This is gonna be a short game. :cheeky:

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:50
ABF said he was tired of the game. Probably just wants himself killed rather than stalled out.

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 15:50
He'll just tell you more tomorrow, so I'm over it.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 15:50
Hmmm... I'm over this game.

On the first day no less.

This is yet another reason I'm not playing the HP mafia game. :rolleyes:

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 15:54
On the first day no less.

This is yet another reason I'm not playing the HP mafia game. :rolleyes:

Lol.

At least Harry Potter has characters, being a power on the PAC sparks no flame within me.

And it's more exciting running your own game, cos you know who everyone is, and you can laugh at the screen when they make random assumptions.

batfink
09/07/2007, 15:55
I had alot of catching up to do.
Sweetums is really a Gothen Night and we should lynch Shel?
OK, maybe 2 of these should be my limit.
Lynch Shel

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 15:55
No seriously, ABF.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the rest of the mafia actually want to play this game out? Being like "#### it, we're screwed" eliminates Shel and Anti's chance to convince us that they aren't mafia, and makes the job of the last mafia guy a lot harder.

If I was any one of them, I wouldn't want to play with you any more.

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 15:56
Lol.

At least Harry Potter has characters, being a power on the PAC sparks no flame within me.

And it's more exciting running your own game, cos you know who everyone is, and you can laugh at the screen when they make random assumptions.

I would say something about how you shouldn't have joined if you didn't like the theme rather than slamming it publically now, or how you're not being very fair to Peers and all the time he put into this or just your general immaturity right now, but, hey, as we know I'm just a "jackass" if I "pick" on you for such behaviour, so have fun.

:rolleyes:

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 15:59
I think that would be a fine respone. Maybe we can have Peers reboot this?

DocDoom187
09/07/2007, 15:59
Lynch Antipathy

Thats a heck of a power rokk.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 15:59
respone is response. Stupid no edit...

DocDoom187
09/07/2007, 16:00
Yea ABF I agree. You make it not fun for us, AND the mafia. Now there's no mystery to it.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 16:01
Lynch Antipathy

Thats a heck of a power rokk.

Shel would be the smarter pick, old bean.

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 16:01
I would say something about how you shouldn't have joined if you didn't like the theme rather than slamming it publically now, or how you're not being very fair to Peers and all the time he put into this or just your general immaturity right now, but, hey, as we know I'm just a "jackass" if I "pick" on you for such behaviour, so have fun.

:rolleyes:

I respect Peers greatly.

And you can pick on me all you want.


And how do you know this isn't part of my game plan?

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 16:03
And how do you know this isn't part of my game plan?
Part of your game plan is giving up and admitting to being mafia?

Boy howdy, you must be waaaaay smarter than me, cause I can't see a single advantage to that. ;)

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 16:04
I respect Peers greatly.

And you can pick on me all you want.


And how do you know this isn't part of my game plan?

Outting yourself as a gameplan is one thing; ripping on the game is another.

TMNT99
09/07/2007, 16:06
Vote: Lynch KitsuShel

However, Rokk's power doesn't seem to be something I'd describe with on of the PAC's

It's still possible the info is right, but he's part of a rival Mafia.. like Extraordinary Day.. when he gets lucky he gets really lukcy or something.

And while the info seems to be great, this may be his way of winning our confidence early.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 16:09
No Lynch (1) KitsuShel
KitsuShel (13): JackAssterson, scehano, The Vision, Jackofhearts2005, Rokk Krinn, Magnito, kontrol, theanalogkid, Doombot 3.1, Iron Ham, Amora's Best Friend, TMNT99, batfink
Antipathy (2): St-Dumas, DocDoom187

With 26 players still alive, 14 are needed to lynch.

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 16:10
Outting yourself as a gameplan is one thing; ripping on the game is another.

Yeah, that was wrong of me to do that.

Peers, I'm really sorry.


It's actually a pretty ingenous idea.

TMNT99
09/07/2007, 16:11
Come on Doc Doom or St Dumas, let's lynch Shel, and see if Rokk is telling the truth or not..

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 16:11
Change vote : No lynch

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 16:14
Don't anybody vote for ABF today.

Peers
09/07/2007, 16:14
Thread closed for consideration of a rules issue.

Peers
09/07/2007, 16:42
Remember, no copying of PMs from me,

I should explain Nova Blast better.

*snip*

I'm at a bit of a quandary. In most Mafia games I've seen, Rokk would now be banned from playing any future games. While it wasn't a direct copy and paste, it was pretty damn close. However, to be honest, it's not completely his fault. There's 28 players here, with randomly assigned powers, and last night, picking a target was pretty much random. One of the very few combinations that had potential to unbalance the game happened. Rokk is not responsible for creating the situation... but he's aggravated it to the point where he has broken the above rule in his quest to appear legitimate.

Which, I admit, I'm making even worse by posting this, since it will appear to be a validation of what he has said. I should stress I am not commenting on his accusations of who belongs to what alignment or who has what power. I am saying only that he was sent a PM describing the Nova Blast power, and while not copying it word for word, he copied it very closely and made it public.

Maybe I should have been more specific about that rule; maybe he just got carried away with himself and what has happened in the game so far. But I can't let this go without punishment.

ROKK_KRINN IS MODKILLED

To give him the benefit of the doubt, Rokk is -not- banned from any future games I may run... but from this point on, anyone breaking the rules -- even if they don't realize they're doing it at the time -- will be modkilled and banned from my future games. If it seems like it would ruin the fun of the game for others, without a shadow of a doubt? Reconsider. Or at least ask me if it's okay first.

I stress strongly (but not so strongly as to infer the opposite) that everything Rokk said should be taken with a grain of salt. I am not confirming or denying anything he has said beyond the ability of the Nova Blast power. He may have been lying; he may have been telling the truth; it may have been a mixture. However, it has affected the players he named, and others who acted on the information. Therefore, if you feel Rokk's actions in Day 1 have altered your ability to enjoy the game, you may PM me anytime before the end of Day 1 and request the Witness Protection Program. This will include a new identity, possibly a new power, possibly a new alignment, possibly not. No announcement will be made as to if you accept this deal or not; and if you're someone who wasn't affected by Rokk's statement, it'll be ignored anyway.

Also, if anyone feels even the Witness Protection Program won't help, please tell me via PM if you wish to drop out. I don't like the idea of having to re-balance the game right now, but I have no way of knowing who is going to believe Rokk no matter what I say, who will disbelieve Rokk no matter what I say, who feels safe, who feels victimized, etc.

That being said, here are the current vote counts:

KitsuShel (10): TMNT99, The Vision, theanalogkid, scehaono, Magnito, kontrol, Jackofhearts2005, JackAssterson, Doombot 3.1, batfink

Antipathy (2): Docdoom187, St-Dumas

No Lynch (2): Amora's Best Friend, KitsuShel

With 25 players left, 13 is a majority vote.

Day 1 will remain open until noon Monday CST, regardless of is a majority vote is reached or not; the majority at noon Monday will be lynched. This is to allow time to discuss what has happened, and to allow ample time for anyone to accept the Witness Protection Program, and to let people cool down and me to decide what the hell to do next.

Be warned, some roles may change at the end of the night to keep game balance.

St-Dumas
09/07/2007, 16:43
Can I change my role? It's not that fun (No offense).

Antipathy
09/07/2007, 16:45
So, uh, who was Rokk?

lensnart
09/07/2007, 16:48
In the interest of giving people who m ay or may not have been unfairly persecuted a fighting chance, I will vote out the person that wants to be killed.

My Vote: ABF

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 16:51
Shel and Antipathy might change roles or even alignments.

ABF is probably the Nova Blaster. This is the only reason to both complain about Rokk's actions and claim to be mafia.

He wants people to vote for him tomorrow so he can end the day phase early and block one person and prevent us from lynching anybody else.

Lets get him while he can't use his power.

Vote: ABF

Besides, he doesn't want to play, anyways.

scehaono
09/07/2007, 16:51
In the interest of giving people who m ay or may not have been unfairly persecuted a fighting chance, I will vote out the person that wants to be killed.

My Vote: ABF

while that's understandable, with Peers' new amnesty proclamation, he may wish to stay in the game now, and so i'll go with:
No Lynch

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 16:53
while that's understandable, with Peers' new amnesty proclamation, he may wish to stay in the game now, and so i'll go with:
No Lynch
I don't really care what he wants, to be honest.

First mafia game with ABF: He cheated...kinda
Second mafia game with ABF: He accidently cheated and was modkilled
Third mafia game with ABF: He roleclaims mafia on the first day

Honestly? I'd just as soon him be gone no matter what side he is, but especially if he's mafia.

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 16:54
while that's understandable, with Peers' new amnesty proclamation, he may wish to stay in the game now, and so i'll go with:
No Lynch

I have applied for the amnesty.

I was never really evil at heart anyway.

I was doing it to try to get Kit to survive, since she's been killed really early on in most of the recent games.

KitsuShel
09/07/2007, 16:59
First mafia game with ABF: He cheated...kinda
Honestly not his fault, don't get me started on that again. :cheeky:

Second mafia game with ABF: He accidently cheated and was modkilled
Dude, even you had to admit he did a good job with what limitations he had, he made a mistake and was removed for it.

Third mafia game with ABF: He roleclaims mafia on the first day
I completely missed where he mafia roleclaimed. Can you point it out for me?

lensnart
09/07/2007, 17:04
Perhaps we could all switch roles and just restart this whole party, since it is only day one. It seems liek changing a few is still going to leave the game a bit dirty and Peers already has the roles written up so It wouldn't be that big a deal to push it back a day.

What say you Peers?

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:05
Dude, even you had to admit he did a good job with what limitations he had, he made a mistake and was removed for it.

I'm sure most of us could have come up with a username that let everyone know who was a gotham knight.

How bout Vote: Gothamcop or Vote: gothamnite
Also, he could have said Vote: Brainfreeze instead of MrFreeze.

No, I think that while he did a pretty good job of gathering info (I'm not sure how much of that was him and how much of that was fed straight by Jacin without ABF's input), he did a pretty poor job of conveying it to us.
I completely missed where he mafia roleclaimed. Can you point it out for me?
He got mad at Rokk and said "kill the traitor" and removed his vote from you. He didn't flat out say "I'm in the mafia" but he might as well have.

lensnart
09/07/2007, 17:07
And I wan't trying to start a hate lynch, I really thought ABF wanted out of the game. So I will gladly wait until the role change (or restart) tomorrow and..

Change Vote: No Lynch

Antipathy
09/07/2007, 17:07
Anybody wonder how Rokk knows about all the mafia?

He got recruited.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:08
Anybody wonder how Rokk knows about all the mafia?

I'm thinking he started out on the mafia and got recruited by someone else...not sure who, though. One shot powers seem like feats to me.

Its possible he was recruited by a second mafia.

Antipathy
09/07/2007, 17:08
He got recruited into another mafia. It's right in the write-up.

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 17:10
Dude, even you had to admit he did a good job with what limitations he had, he made a mistake and was removed for it.

I'm sure most of us could have come up with a username that let everyone know who was a gotham knight.

How bout Vote: Gothamcop or Vote: gothamnite
Also, he could have said Vote: Brainfreeze instead of MrFreeze.

No, I think that while he did a pretty good job of gathering info (I'm not sure how much of that was him and how much of that was fed straight by Jacin without ABF's input), he did a pretty poor job of conveying it to us.
I completely missed where he mafia roleclaimed. Can you point it out for me?
He got mad at Rokk and said "kill the traitor" and removed his vote from you. He didn't flat out say "I'm in the mafia" but he might as well have.

GothamKnights is a member, I just forgot to pluralise it when posting.

But yeah, I admit I just assumed there was someone called MrFreeze.


I roleclaimed because Rokk would just out me the next day anyway, and it was my only chance to save Kit. I'd prefer I died over her. However I forgot I couldn't use Nova Blast because I had killed the night before. My plan was to get you to all lynch me, then blow up, killing me, ending the day phase and saving anti and kit.


Didn't work out though.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:11
Grudges are ugly things, dude.

And just so I'm clear, I don't hold a grudge against ABF.
I think the guy is quite funny at times, I just don't like him ruining games.

He's like my friend who kicks over the checker table everytime he's not winning. I'll still hang out with him, I just don't want to play checkers with him.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:13
I roleclaimed because Rokk would just out me the next day anyway, and it was my only chance to save Kit. I'd prefer I died over her. However I forgot I couldn't use Nova Blast because I had killed the night before. My plan was to get you to all lynch me, then blow up, killing me, ending the day phase and saving anti and kit.


Didn't work out though.
Figured as much, which is why I told people to NOT vote for you right before Peers modkilled Rokk.

Then, I too realized that since you had killed, you couldn't NB.

batfink
09/07/2007, 17:22
Our roles & identities might be changed at night?
So, is this the errata?

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 17:25
He got mad at Rokk and said "kill the traitor" and removed his vote from you.

Just for the record, I wasn't mad.

I was just acting how my character would if he were in a situtation like that.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 17:26
I knew there was something fishy about Rokk...He would have enjoyed protection while wiping out the competition. Well played. ABF's plan was a good one also, but he rolled double 1's.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:27
Just for the record, I wasn't mad.

I was just acting how my character would if he were in a situtation like that.
Understandable. Your actions on this thread are actually not poor, but without the knowledge of NB, it sure looked like you were just giving up on the first day.

Sacrificing yourself to save teammates on the first day is a different matter.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 17:28
Change Vote: No lynch until the errata comes out. I hope Quake and HSS work together.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:31
Sigh. All useful information we gained last night is potentially worthless, now.

I'd vote no lynch, but we'll lose another 2 people.
Lynching Shel, ABF, or Antipathy might mean lynching someone who is now a townie (though I'm sure at least one of them is still "scum," since otherwise, we wouldn't have enough scum left).

Peers
09/07/2007, 17:32
In addition to a lynch vote, also vote 'keep' or 'reboot', please. If we get, say, 2/3rds of you voting reboot, I'll re-shuffle the roles. Each of you will know some of the roles that are out there, but not all of them. If we reboot, Rokk will be included (if he still wants to play) since I said I wouldn't ban him from future games.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:33
Vote: Reboot

I like my power, but I'd rather start over from the begining, personally.

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 17:34
Vote : Reboot

Doombot 3.1
09/07/2007, 17:35
Change vote: No lynch

Vote: Reboot

I hate to ask Peers to do more work, but if the game is rebooted, maybe the Mafia roles (Rally, Brilliant Tactician, Nova Blast, Sneak) should be redone. It's more interesting if we don't know the mafia's powers (besides killing).

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 17:36
Vote: Reboot

Iron Ham
09/07/2007, 17:37
Vote: keep it

lensnart
09/07/2007, 17:37
This is too awesome of an idea to not be given a proper start.

Vote: Reboot

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:37
Vote: keep it
Obviously, Iron Ham is in the mafia. :cheeky:

Iron Ham
09/07/2007, 17:38
Obviously, Iron Ham is in the mafia. :cheeky:

:p

Change Vote: Reboot

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:39
:p

Change Vote: Reboot
Seriously, you're in the other mafia aren't you? ;)

TMNT99
09/07/2007, 17:39
Sigh, Vote Reboot:

I hate starting anything over mid-game.

But we have just started, and it'd be nice not to loose to townies on the first night.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 17:39
And thanks to Peers for giving us this option.

I know these things can be a hassle to set up.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 17:40
Athough, considering who they are, I bet they will be targeted again if able.

kontrol
09/07/2007, 17:43
Too much has happened and I think the writing's on the wall.
reboot

Thawmus
09/07/2007, 17:44
I don't know if I get a say or not, since I'm dead, and I obviously have a vested interest in a reboot as a result of being dead, but.....

Vote: Reboot

batfink
09/07/2007, 17:44
reboot to the head

Magnito
09/07/2007, 17:47
Reboot I suppose. Did we ever find out who Rokk was?

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 17:48
Reboot I suppose. Did we ever find out who Rokk was?

Edit: don't want to give stuff away

Peers
09/07/2007, 17:51
Please don't discuss roles too much; they're going to be used again.

Most likely.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 17:55
Please don't discuss roles too much; they're going to be used again.

Most likely.

This makes playing potentially awkward if one was in a group. The revelation of one role could feasibly reveal all of them to anyone who used to be in the group and remembers what should be left.

KitsuShel
09/07/2007, 18:06
Vote: Reboot

Poor Rokk, its not his fault. What would any of you have done with that information? Mafia should not be able to be recruited, since it screws up the balance.

Magnito
09/07/2007, 18:07
Vote: Reboot

Poor Rokk, its not his fault. What would any of you have done with that information? Mafia should not be able to be recruited, since it screws up the balance.
This is true. People should be able to recruit to the mafia, but not the other way around.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 18:13
He overplayed his hand. Had he doles out his info little by little, he would have been fine.

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 18:15
He overplayed his hand. Had he doles out his info little by little, he would have been fine.
I thought he was modkilled only for describing Nova Blast too close to what it said in his pm. :ermm:

scehaono
09/07/2007, 18:18
i think analogkid meant that we wouldn't have gone after him as much if he'd fed us the info piecemeal, but I, too, shall vote for a full
Reboot

(makes me think of the old cartoon)

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 18:20
Oh yeah, I agree. Rokk's method definately left him open to discovery of the second mafia as shown in the writeups.

Giving us info on one mafia member at a time would make him look like a cop/tracker.

EDIT: Though, there are advantages of giving the town a lot of targets out of the gate for him. I wouldn't call it a "mistake" to give us that much info out of the gate, but I would have probably done it a little differently.

Melkhor
09/07/2007, 18:55
First of all Peers, I think you need to be ALOT clearer in what you will and won't allow us to divulge. Descriping how the Nova Blast power worked to us didn't seem the least bit suspicious or overly detailed to me. The potential damage comes in including those "originally posted by Peers" tags before a post. You said yourself that the reason a PM is not allowed to be reproduced is because of your distinct writing style, but if he altered that, and since he at no point tried to convince us that he was quoting you, I really don't see the harm.

He relayed information you had given to him to us, thats all. If this is to set a precedence then does that mean that if I were a Cop and you PM'ed me with the message "XXXX is mafia-aligned" and I then posted "Vote for XXXX, hes mafia-aligned" I'd be mod-killed too?

This is a seriously slippery slope here, and, to me at least, it seems like you over-reacted and caused this unfortunate situation by doing so.

Also, as Jack said, a full reboot would seem to require a rather drastic alteration of the game, as some people would otherwise have way too much insight into things they shouldn't know about (number of mafia members, their powers, alternate mafias, hero teams etc.).

I apologise if this seems rude or out of line, but it looks to me like this game is almost irrevocably damaged now. I'll still play, of course, but can anything less than a total re-write really safe the situation we're in now?

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 18:58
First of all Peers, I think you need to be ALOT clearer in what you will and won't allow us to divulge. Descriping how the Nova Blast power worked to us didn't seem the least bit suspicious or overly detailed to me. The potential damage comes in including those "originally posted by Peers" tags before a post. You said yourself that the reason a PM is not allowed to be reproduced is because of your distinct writing style, but if he altered that, and since he at no point tried to convince us that he was quoting you, I really don't see the harm.

He relayed information you had given to him to us, thats all. If this is to set a precedence then does that mean that if I were a Cop and you PM'ed me with the message "XXXX is mafia-aligned" and I then posted "Vote for XXXX, hes mafia-aligned" I'd be mod-killed too?

This is a seriously slippery slope here, and, to me at least, it seems like you over-reacted and caused this unfortunate situation by doing so.

No offense to you, Peers, since you have provided quite the fun hobby for us, here, but I agree with Melkhor.

I don't think Rokk did anything out of line and possibly could have been informed better about what he could and couldn't reveal.

theanalogkid
09/07/2007, 18:59
That was exactly what I meant.

batfink
09/07/2007, 19:07
:Do not talk about roles too much as they will be used again.:
So, will they be day old rolls?

Thawmus
09/07/2007, 19:08
:Do not talk about roles too much as they will be used again.:
So, will they be day old rolls?

Yes, but they're only 50 cents a loaf at Jimmy John's.

DocDoom187
09/07/2007, 19:24
I'll admit it. I'm Ultimate Thor. I can't be lynched, but if you get some crackers, you can make cheese and cracker hors deuvres (I butchered that)

:p

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 19:25
I'm KC Batman and nobody likes me. :disappoin

Thawmus
09/07/2007, 19:27
I'm KC Hawkman. I'm disputably one of the best pieces ever created, but nobody ever notices how friggin' awesome I am.

Amora's_best_friend
09/07/2007, 19:27
I was actually Lorelei experienced.

Having super strength for a joke.

DocDoom187
09/07/2007, 19:28
....nobody likes me. :disappoin
I was talking about the game Jack......

If you have problems like that I suggest talking to Rokk. :p

Iron Ham
09/07/2007, 19:28
I'm Oracle, I'm the don, I can't be lynched or nightkilled.

:p

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 19:28
I'm KC Hawkman. I'm disputably one of the best pieces ever created, but nobody ever notices how friggin' awesome I am.
I wish I had a KC Hawkman. All the Legacy KCs were good, IMO.

JackAssterson
09/07/2007, 19:28
I'm Lian Harper. If I toddle next to the Juggernaut I have a 50% chance of rendering him unable to move.

Thawmus
09/07/2007, 19:29
I'm Lian Harper. If I toddle next to the Juggernaut I have a 50% chance of rendering him unable to move.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JackAssterson again. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 19:30
I was talking about the game Jack......

If you have problems like that I suggest talking to Rokk. :p
Haven't we had this discussion before? :cheeky:
I do have friends outside of the realms.

DocDoom187
09/07/2007, 19:30
I was actually Lorelei experienced.

Having super strength for a joke.
Ok, this isn't a shot or anything, but how does that make sense. You say that stuff ALOT, and i just don't get it.....


is it British :p

I'm Oracle, I'm the don, I can't be lynched or nightkilled.

Quick everyone, up the stairs! There's no ramp, she can't catch us!!

DocDoom187
09/07/2007, 19:31
Haven't we had this discussion before? :cheeky:
I do have friends outside of the realms.
Dude, we did talk about this, and remember? Mr. Jack Daniels doen't count!

Rokk_Krinn
09/07/2007, 19:31
I'm Oracle, I'm the don, I can't be lynched or nightkilled.

:p

But just wait until his wheelchair is tipped over. :)

(Sorry, know I shouldn't post on here but it was too tempting to pass over being we're degenerating into slap happy mode. :) )

DocDoom187
09/07/2007, 19:32
I'm Lian Harper. If I toddle next to the Juggernaut I have a 50% chance of rendering him unable to move.
Did you know you've been cloned :eek:

Its true, just go to Wizard World!


:laugh:

Jackofhearts2005
09/07/2007, 19:32
Dude, we did talk about this, and remember? Mr. Jack Daniels doen't count!
If I was a shorter man, I'd get drunk and beat you up for saying that. :p

DocDoom187
09/07/2007, 19:38
If I was a shorter man, I'd get drunk and beat you up for saying that. :p
If I was a shorter man I'd call myself Mini-me.....:rolleyes:

vicious x
09/07/2007, 20:13
If I was a shorter man I'd call myself Mini-me.....:rolleyes:

hahaha

I too will vote for the reboot

oh and I can't blame kontrol for voting for me,... after all I did kill him two of the three games we played :cheeky:

Antipathy
09/07/2007, 21:21
Vote: Reboot

The Vision
09/08/2007, 00:57
Sigh.

Vote: Reboot

Calabolg
09/08/2007, 01:40
Wow, I log in and it seems quite a bit's happened here...

I'll Vote: Reboot. Thanks for allowing it Peers.

St-Dumas
09/08/2007, 02:12
I'll vote: reboot. And since i'm Flurry, my vote counts twice.

CarlosMucha
09/08/2007, 15:31
what? who? what just happen??

this think of the powers is a little confusing. :p I like more with characters. :p

Gambit
09/08/2007, 16:21
I want Rokk back in because I feel bad about what happened and from reading pages 1-15 I think a simple reboot will make a whole lotta difference.

Vote: Reboot

biz567
09/09/2007, 02:48
Vote: Reboot

I read a little, but I don't get what Rokk did exactly. Something with Nova Blast...?

DocDoom187
09/09/2007, 03:30
Vote: Reboot

I read a little, but I don't get what Rokk did exactly. Something with Nova Blast...?
More or less, he was in a mafia, somehow, a different mafia or person got him to divulge all his secrets, and pretty much ruin all the mystery to the game.

KitsuShel
09/09/2007, 10:05
Vote: Reboot

I read a little, but I don't get what Rokk did exactly. Something with Nova Blast...?

Long story short. Rokk was in a mafia, and was then recruited into a different Mafia the next night, taking with him the identity of everyone in the first Mafia, which he then spilled to everyone.

When he was doubted, he started explaining how certain powers worked and Peers felt that he worded it too close to how he did in the original PM, thus mod-killing from the game.

At that point, the game was pretty much compromised and Peers asked us for a vote as to whether we'd like to just start all over, which the roles just switched up.

Peers
09/09/2007, 15:21
Okay, we're rebooting... I'll be taking today and part of tomorrow to decide what roles need to be changed and do the shuffling. PMs probably tomorrow afternoon sometime.

Peers
09/10/2007, 18:47
Due to job-related things and the fact I may not have reliable internet access over the next few weeks, I regret that I have to put this game on hold. Perhaps it was for the best... I'll re-run it when I have the time.