Hcrealms pick'em Challenge

[sniksder]

Okay getting this started late so we will ignore tonights opening game

But lets get a season long challenge going...

Simple to play

Just pick the winner of each game each week straight up, no point spread.

tie breaker will be the Monday night game and you must pick the total points scored in that game.

Weekly winner will get everyones congrats....but the season winner will get a few random LE's/u's.

I will add a random LE or Unique every other week the overall winner will receive all that gets listed

Points

1 point for each correct win
2 bonus points for a tie-breaker win
3 bonus points for picking the correct Monday night total points
5 bonus points for picking all games for that week
-1 point for not picking any correct games for that week.

Your picks will have to be in 15minutes before the first game of each week.

Standing after first week

Psylockeslover - 16 points

BudPalmer 11 points

DOOMBOTSKI - 10 points
Gacy's Clown - 10 points
Neoshazam - 10 points
Shadow40 - 10 points
stark's heir - 10 points

Antipathy - 9 points
Charaxes - 9 points
KaineMak - 9 points
KitsuShel - 9 points
lensnart - 9 points

Dark Flash2099 - 8 points
tyroclix - 8 points

DocDoom187 - 7 points
sniksder - 7 points

spiderman9797 - 6 points






Picks due by 12:45 pm Sunday Sept. 16th

[Dark Flash2099]

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Baltimore at Cincinnati Total Points: 23
Arizona at San Francisco

[Antipathy]

Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati total points 32
Arizona at San Francisco

[Psylockeslover]

Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati-37
Arizona at San Francisco

[Charaxes]

Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati (total points= 32)
Arizona at San Francisco (total points= 28)

[Shadow40]

Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati 31 points
Arizona at San Francisco

[BudPalmer]

Kansas City at Houston W
Philadelphia at Green Bay L
Pittsburgh at Cleveland W
Denver at Buffalo W
Miami at Washington W
Carolina at St. Louis L
New England at NY Jets W
Atlanta at Minnesota W
Tennessee at Jacksonville W
Tampa Bay at Seattle W
Detroit at Oakland W
Chicago at San Diego W
NY Giants at Dallas W

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati - 27pts. L
Arizona at San Francisco L

[lensnart]

Weekly winner will get everyones congrats....but the season winner will get a few random LE's/u's.

I will add a random LE or Unique every other week the overall winner will receive all that gets listed



Should I expect these to show up with the unique that I won in the Super Bowl pool last year. :p

That's alright, prizes or no i will gladly show my dominance once again. ;)

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Baltimore at Cincinatti 26 points
Arizona at San Francisco

[DOOMBOTSKI]

Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati 33 points
Arizona at San Francisco

[spiderman9797]

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Baltimore at Cincinnati Total Points: 33
Arizona at San Francisco

[stark's heir]

Kudos to you sniksder. There's no way in H-E-double hockey sticks I'd wanna keep track of that...

Sun. 9/9
Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati (24 points)
Arizona at San Francisco

[sniksder]

okay my picks

Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington -Like I would choose against them :)
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas - like i would ever choose the Cowgirls

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati - 49 points
Arizona at San Francisco

[Gacy's Clown]

Kansas City at Houston - KC
Philadelphia at Green Bay - Philly
Pittsburgh at Cleveland - Pitt
Denver at Buffalo - Denver
Miami at Washington - Miami
Carolina at St. Louis - St. Louis
New England at NY Jets - New England
Atlanta at Minnesota - Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville - Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle - Seattle
Detroit at Oakland - Detroit
Chicago at San Diego - San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas - Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati - Cincy Total Points: 31
Arizona at San Francisco - Arizona

[KitsuShel]

Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10
Baltimore at Cincinnati 31
Arizona at San Francisco

[tyroclix]

This should be funny - can you get a negative total?

Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati 25 points
Arizona at San Francisco

[NeoShazam]

Man, that is a lot of horrible games to kick off the season.

Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati total points 42 points
Arizona at San Francisco

[KaineMak]

Thanks for the invitation to join, Sniksder. :)

Sun. 9/9
Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10
Baltimore at Cincinnati
Arizona at San Francisco (34)

[sniksder]

Okay first LE in the prize pool is

Dr Bruce Banner MM.....

and yes I will add better ones, gotta start low and build up to the good ones ;)

[DocDoom187]

Can I still get in this?


Sun. 9/9

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Mon. 9/10

Baltimore at Cincinnati(27 points)
Arizona at San Francisco

And no that's not random, what I thought just so happened to make a pattern :p

[DocDoom187]

Wow. So far, it looks like i got incredibly lucky here. lol

[DocDoom187]

Wow. The Broncos game was quite a game. When Cutler fumbled and lost 10 yards with a minute and a half left I thought it was over. But wow.


I'm pissed Travis Henry didn't get a TD though. He had almost 200 yards! He did ALL the work, and got no reward. blech

[spiderman9797]

Kansas City at Houston
Philadelphia at Green Bay
Pittsburgh at Cleveland
Denver at Buffalo
Miami at Washington
Carolina at St. Louis
New England at NY Jets
Atlanta at Minnesota
Tennessee at Jacksonville
Tampa Bay at Seattle
Detroit at Oakland
Chicago at San Diego
NY Giants at Dallas

Baltimore at Cincinnati Total Points: 33
Arizona at San Francisco
Wow...

3 for 8 so far.:confused:

[DocDoom187]

5 for 9. Not great, but acceptable to me.

[DocDoom187]

7 right for Psylockes lover. Wow. Impressive. Good job man!

[BudPalmer]

He's not the only one! ;)

[DocDoom187]

Woah, i didn't see that. Nice Bud.


No w explain to me why I'm in your Sig... I don't get the joke.....

[BudPalmer]

The joke is that, at the time, you were doing the exact opposite of agreeing with me. I took your quotr out of context and it has been in my sig ever since. I'm due for a new one...

[DocDoom187]

The joke is that, at the time, you were doing the exact opposite of agreeing with me. I took your quotr out of context and it has been in my sig ever since. I'm due for a new one...
*A long long time ago, in a galxy far far away*

Wait, wha? What were we talkin about?


:p

[NeoShazam]

I thought I was good at 10-5, and Psylockeslover had 13-2.

[BudPalmer]

Had a bit of a melt-down last night. I blame McNair! 11-4

[Charaxes]

Guess I'll have to settle for 9-6...

[Shadow40]

Unless I screwed up I went 11-4

[lensnart]

10 right in week one, lets hope I can pick it up next week.

[spiderman9797]

6 right?

Ouch...

But maybe if the refs in that Baltimore game weren't calling horrible calls at extremely critical points in the game, Baltimore might have won.:cheeky:

[BudPalmer]

6 right?

Ouch...

But maybe if the refs in that Baltimore game weren't calling horrible calls at extremely critical points in the game, Baltimore might have won.:cheeky:


I just blame Steve McNair.

[tyroclix]

Kansas City at Houston:cool:
Philadelphia at Green Bay:cry:
Pittsburgh at Cleveland:cry:
Denver at Buffalo:cool:
Miami at Washington:cry:
Carolina at St. Louis:cry:
New England at NY Jets:cool:
Atlanta at Minnesota:cool:
Tennessee at Jacksonville:cry:
Tampa Bay at Seattle:cry:
Detroit at Oakland:cool:
Chicago at San Diego:cool:
NY Giants at Dallas:cool:

Baltimore at Cincinnati 25 points:cry:
Arizona at San Francisco:cool:

8-7

[DocDoom187]

I got the right winning score for the bengals game!!



Just the wrong team :p

[lensnart]

I know that this isn't my league and I know that nobody on here is making like the Patriots, but just to stop any future arguments before they start, it probably isn't a good idea to edit your original picks post. It might be a better idea to just cut and paste the original post and add the w's and l's to that. But like I said this isn't my thing, so if snaksder says its cool then its cool.

Here are my week two picks:

Sunday

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at NY Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinatti vs. Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia - 32 points

I am not happy with how many road teams I have there but there you go.

[BudPalmer]

You calling me a cheater?!?!? :laugh: Seriously though, I would hope Sniky is taking down people's picks to avoid just that. But if the word comes that I shouldn't do what I did, I'll just post again. For the record I am proud to say I did not change a pick (though I really wanted to after Monday night! I was doing so well until then.;)).

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at Giants - NY's special teams won't lose it for them
Houston at Carolina - I like Houston this year - I don't know why!
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit - I can't believe I've picked Detroit 2 weeks in a row!
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago - even Rex can screw this up!
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England - Let's see how they do without cheating

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia They'll snap back. Total score:37

[Shadow40]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at NY Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffalo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England
Cincinatti vs. Cleveland

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia 35 total score

[NeoShazam]

Sunday

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at NY Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffalo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia

[NeoShazam]

I/You forgot to add :

Cincinnati at Cleveland

[spiderman9797]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England
Cincinnati at Cleveland

Washington at Philadelphia: 33 points

[Charaxes]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at NY Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffalo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia (total points: 37)

[Charaxes]

I/You forgot to add :

Cincinnati at Cleveland
Cincinnati at Cleveland

[Psylockeslover]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia-47

[sniksder]

Been a busy week for me, before Sundays first game I will have the first week scores listed...


thanks

[KitsuShel]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia 30

[Dark Flash2099]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at NY Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England
Cincinatti vs. Cleveland

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia 31

[Gacy's Clown]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at NY Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Minnesota at Detroit
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia 28

[DOOMBOTSKI]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia 36

[Antipathy]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia 37

[lensnart]

Anyone who used my list as a template may want to add the battle of Ohio:

Cincinatti vs. Cleveland

[Psylockeslover]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia-47


Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia 30


Hey! Quit looking at my paper! Cheater!

:p

[Big ED]

Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinnati at Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday

Washington at Philadelphia 39

[stark's heir]

Okily-Dokily...here are my week two picks:

Sunday
Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at NY Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinatti vs. Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia 48 total pts

EDIT - forgot to pick the GB/NYG game...

[DocDoom187]

Sunday
Indianapolis at Tennessee
Green Bay at NY Giants
Houston at Carolina
New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Buffallo at Pittsburgh
Atlanta at Jacksonville
San Francisco at St Louis
Minnesota at Detroit
Cincinatti vs. Cleveland
Seattle at Arizona
Dallas at Miami
Kansas City at Chicago
NY Jets at Baltimore
Oakland at Denver(Fun match-up;))
San Diego at New England

Monday
Washington at Philadelphia (16 points)

[sniksder]

PIT
CAR
NO
JAC
CIN
STL
GB
IND
MIA
MIN
SEA
CHI
BAL
OAK
SD
WAS - 48 pts

[lensnart]

I almost forgot 32 Points for the monday game score.

[DocDoom187]

WAS - 48 pts
*Cough cough* fan boy *cough cough*

;)

[spiderman9797]

Well, we just lost one that nobody on here expected us to lose (as I believe everyone picked the Saints). And we lost it in a horrible embarassing way.

I don't know what is wrong with our offense, but it looks absolutely horrible. Oakland has a better offense than us so far.

And our pass defense? I don't even want to talk about that.

[stark's heir]

Detroit is 2-0
Houston is 2-0

This am bizarro football...:confused:

[DocDoom187]

Detroit= no surprise.


They have Kitna, who's a friggin beast. Roy Williams, who is a veteran, with a huge reputation as a monster. Calvin johnson, who's the first round pick beast, and McDonald who they picked up in the off season, and could easily be a number 1 WR. They're passing game rivals the Bengals.

[Antipathy]

Detroit= no surprise.


They have Kitna, who's a friggin beast. Roy Williams, who is a veteran, with a huge reputation as a monster. Calvin johnson, who's the first round pick beast, and McDonald who they picked up in the off season, and could easily be a number 1 WR. They're passing game rivals the Bengals.

And we also have Mike Furrey, who had 98 receptions last year (second most in the NFL).

[NeoShazam]

13-2 so far :)

Guess I should add my Monday Night points for the PHI/WAS , which I figure to be : 35 points.

I like Niners and Bengals. Niners put another close victory on their record and they are gonna be in the 2nd round of the NFC playoffs this year. Bengals had a shootout with Cleveland and lost ( sad thing is before that last interception they were driving down and looked to win that sloppy one ).

I'm sorry but the Saints are being seen for what they are. The NFC is weak. They got a tougher schedule this year and teams are blowing up their secondary. The charm has faded off Reggie Bush and they need to realize that McAllister is who you give the ball to , to make everything work. I figured they'd bounce back and beat the bucs though.

I still figure Patriots/Bears Superbowl. Can't wait for DAL/CHI next week.

[spiderman9797]

13-2 so far :)

Guess I should add my Monday Night points for the PHI/WAS , which I figure to be : 35 points.

I like Niners and Bengals. Niners put another close victory on their record and they are gonna be in the 2nd round of the NFC playoffs this year. Bengals had a shootout with Cleveland and lost ( sad thing is before that last interception they were driving down and looked to win that sloppy one ).

I'm sorry but the Saints are being seen for what they are. The NFC is weak. They got a tougher schedule this year and teams are blowing up their secondary. The charm has faded off Reggie Bush and they need to realize that McAllister is who you give the ball to , to make everything work. I figured they'd bounce back and beat the bucs though.

I still figure Patriots/Bears Superbowl. Can't wait for DAL/CHI next week.
I disagree with both the 49'ers and the Bengals.

I don't think the 49'ers will get past the first round of the playoffs, and thats even if they get into the playoffs (they play the in the tightest division in football).

I also don't think any charm has faded off Reggie Bush at all. If anyone is going to say that Reggie Bush isn't a good football player, than they are just ignorant (not saying that you said he wasn't a good football player or that you're ignorant). He is overrated, I definately think that. But he is also a good football player, and giving the ball primarily to Deuce is a bad move. Deuce isn't in the shape that he used to be in, so you can't give him that many carries a game. Reggie Bush is the future of the Saints' rushing game, so you have to get him the ball in order for him to work out the kinks and be as good as he can be.

And I also have confidence that the Saints will get into the playoffs. The NFC is weak, and I still believe that the Saints are a good team. Sean Payton has made the same mistakes the last 3 games (including the Bears game) that has lost him the game, and that's not running it enough early. Even when you're down 14-0, you need to run the ball. Especially when Deuce is averaging 4.9 yards a carry. Running the ball 20 times a game and passing it 44 times is never good.

But I guess we'll see at the end of the season.

[Psylockeslover]

13-2 so far :)

I only went 11-4 this week. But, on the bright side, I'm 24-6 going into Monday night (would be 25-6 if we had enough time to pick the Colts-Saints game in week 1, cause who in thier right mind woulda picked the Saints there...).

Not a bad overall score I think....

[DocDoom187]

I only went 11-4 this week. But, on the bright side, I'm 24-6 going into Monday night (would be 25-6 if we had enough time to pick the Colts-Saints game in week 1, cause who in thier right mind woulda picked the Saints there...).

Not a bad overall score I think....
Spiderman9797 would have..... :p

[stark's heir]

Should we keep track of our own records? I haven't been, but I know its not been pretty - prob about .500. :rolleyes:

[spiderman9797]

Spiderman9797 would have..... :p
Even if my team was the absolute worst in the history of the game, I wouldn't bet against them or pick anyone over them. You can call it stupid, you can call it narrow-minded, but you must call it loyal.

[Shadow40]

So far this week I'm 8-7:disappoin , a few teams I thought for sure would win stunk it up this week. If Philly loses it sure ain't going to help me none this week. I will be at an even .500 for this weeks picks.

For the season I'm 19-11, so far. Hoping I'm 20-11 if Philly wins.


Edit: Stupid, stupid Philly. I just went 8-8 for the week and 19-12 for the season. Grrr...

[BudPalmer]

My meltdown continues! 9-7 this week.

That brings me to 20-11 to this week.

[lensnart]

Not a bad week for me.

12 -4 and I got the monday night score right.

I really should remember to buy my sports select tickets.

[NeoShazam]

I disagree with both the 49'ers and the Bengals.

I don't think the 49'ers will get past the first round of the playoffs, and thats even if they get into the playoffs (they play the in the tightest division in football).

But I guess we'll see at the end of the season.

Finished 13-3 for the picks this week :)

I guess I should've clarified that I'm a fan of both the 49ers and Bengals (1989 Superbowl !) . The stars would really have to align for the Bengals to make the Superbowl. I think the 49ers win their division, its a competitive division but they finished strong last year and winning 2 close ones so far is a really good sign. I think they get a favorable playoff matchup and advance, but alas that time period is 14-15 weeks away.

[spiderman9797]

11-5 this week. Not great, but not bad.

[Shadow40]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 35 total score

[BudPalmer]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia (this one I wouldn't mind being wrong about)
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans - total points:38

[Thawmus]

Well, I guess I'll play just for the fun of it at this point.

Really wish I knew there was an NFL forum a couple of weeks ago. :(


San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans - Score: 23-17


I'm hoping that I'm super wrong about Indy and Tennessee. Houston could be interesting this year. And NO will get it in gear sooner or later, I'm hoping sooner, but it looks more and more like later.

[Psylockeslover]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 37 points

[NeoShazam]

Wow, I'm running a lot of Underdogs this week.

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans total score 38 points.

[DOOMBOTSKI]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 41 points

[DocDoom187]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 30

[Gacy's Clown]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 34

[Gacy's Clown]

Should we keep track of our own records? I haven't been, but I know its not been pretty - prob about .500. :rolleyes:

I was wondering the same thing. I haven't been keeping track of mine either...

[Big ED]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland TIE
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 39

[spiderman9797]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Tennessee vs. New Orleans: 44 points

[stark's heir]

Because noone asked for them...my Week 3 picks!

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England (Good Gravy, I hope I get this wrong.)
Miami vs. New York Jets(Do I really have to pick a winner...)
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston(Upset Special!!!)
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans - 34 points (Keeping those paper bags away...)

[Shadow40]

Hey stark's heir, you forgot to choose the winner between Arizona vs. Baltimore.

[Thawmus]

Hey stark's heir, you forgot to choose the winner between Arizona vs. Baltimore.

He's picking a TIE!!!! :eek:

[stark's heir]

Hey stark's heir, you forgot to choose the winner between Arizona vs. Baltimore.

ARIZONA (Just 'cause I hate the Ratbirds)

[Bubblehead]

First off, screw you hippies........

Seahawks are going to strike back like the Empire this week. Call it a hunch! ;)


San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia 3-0??? Is it snowing in Hell yet? ;)
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh 9ers exposed right here.
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay No O-line = lots of losses
Arizona vs. Baltimore Arizona will fight but not enough.
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle A shootout with Seattle having the better D.
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago They still have Grossman...not enough.

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 37 total score

[lensnart]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 49

[stark's heir]

Seahawks are going to strike back like the Empire this week. Call it a hunch! ;)

LOL! One prognosticator at ESPN jokingly called for a 60-52 final score... :grin:

[tyroclix]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans total score 49 points.

[sniksder]

STL
SD
MIA
BAL
IND
DET
MIN
NE
PIT
OAK
SEA
DEN
WAS
CAR
CHI
TENN - 37 POINTS

[KitsuShel]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans: 30

[Thawmus]

aaaaand I'm the only fool picking Green Bay this weekend.... :(

[Antipathy]

San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay
Arizona vs. Baltimore
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans: 30

[bagman04]

GO PACKERS! I am a die hard fan, so I pick them to win every week.

[spiderman9797]

GO PACKERS! I am a die hard fan, so I pick them to win every week.
That's how I am with the Saints.

I might not think we will win, but I will never ever pick against us. Unfortunately, a few years ago I was wrong quite often (thanks to Mr. Brooks).

As for this week? I truly do believe that we will win.:cool:

[bagman04]

I hope the saints win, I got Reggie starting on my fanatasy team. But had to bench Deuce because, well you know.

[spiderman9797]

I hope the saints win, I got Reggie starting on my fanatasy team. But had to bench Deuce because, well you know.
I have Reggie on my Fantasy team as well (but I have Marion Barber, too, so Marion has been making up when Reggie has been missing). However, if I had Reggie, Deuce, and Marion I would probably field Reggie and Deuce together because of the defense that Marion is going up against (the Bears).

I need the consistency of Marion Barber with the random home-run ability of Reggie.

But, hey, that's just if you can field 2 RB's in one week (my league allows me to do that).

Sidenote: You can see how I feel about Deuce right now. He isn't running bad when he has the ball (for instance, he was averaging 4.9 yards a carry against Tampa). I understand that you have to throw the ball more when you are down, but even down 14 to nothing you need to give Deuce the ball. He is your rock, and your consistancy. I hope Sean Payton recognizes that.

[Thawmus]

That's how I am with the Saints.

I might not think we will win, but I will never ever pick against us. Unfortunately, a few years ago I was wrong quite often (thanks to Mr. Brooks).

As for this week? I truly do believe that we will win.:cool:

I think they will, too.

I have Drew Brees and Tom Brady as my QB's in fantasy football, and I was going nuts trying to figure out who to start. Today I'm going with the sure thing (Tom Brady), but hopefully Drew can do well today.

[spiderman9797]

I think they will, too.

I have Drew Brees and Tom Brady as my QB's in fantasy football, and I was going nuts trying to figure out who to start. Today I'm going with the sure thing (Tom Brady), but hopefully Drew can do well today.
Now see, if I were you I would field Tom Brady as well. You know he is in his groove, whereas Drew needs to get into his momentum.

However, when Drew -does- get into his game (a la Kansas City in Pre-Season), it's going to be really hard to decide who to field then.

On another note, those are 2 very good Quarterbacks to have.

[Thawmus]

Now see, if I were you I would field Tom Brady as well. You know he is in his groove, whereas Drew needs to get into his momentum.

However, when Drew -does- get into his game (a la Kansas City in Pre-Season), it's going to be really hard to decide who to field then.

On another note, those are 2 very good Quarterbacks to have.

Yeah, I have them in an office league, with 8 players. Everyone was drafting RB's in the first two rounds, so I grabbed them both right away, since I had the 8th and 9th pick.

I've been pretty happy with the arrangement so far.

[spiderman9797]

Yeah, I have them in an office league, with 8 players. Everyone was drafting RB's in the first two rounds, so I grabbed them both right away, since I had the 8th and 9th pick.

I've been pretty happy with the arrangement so far.
Ah, 8 teams. That's why. I am in a league with 16 teams, so it's pretty tough pickin's. I ended up gettin Marc Bulger, who is making me regret that right now.:ermm:

[Thawmus]

OMG, GB is up by 3 with 2 minutes to go.

[spiderman9797]

OMG, GB is up by 3 with 2 minutes to go.
What's even more amazing is Arizona coming back from a 20 to 3 deficit and tying Baltimore.:confused:

Oh, and Marc Bulger getting -1 point for my fantasy team is pretty amazing, too.:tired: At least it's offset by Isaac Bruce getting 1 point.:cheeky:

[spiderman9797]

Looking at it right now, why was Kurt Warner playing?:surprised

[Thawmus]

Looking at it right now, why was Kurt Warner playing?:surprised

Because Matt Leinart was doing terrible.

They switched Warner in, and then had their amazing comeback.

Go figure. :noid:

[spiderman9797]

Hmmm. I could have picked Matt Leinart in the draft over Marc Bulger. Don't know who would have been worse.:cheeky:

And now the Denver D is being picked on. Steve Smith isn't getting the ball. Kellen Winslow isn't getting thrown at enough. Doesn't look like a good week for my team.

[Bubblehead]

To be a Seahawks fan is one hell of a rollercoaster ride. You know the team plays great in the 2nd half but.......

Will they make the plays?

They made just enough and I , for one, am extremely relieved. I don't know whether Cincy's D showed up OR the Seahawks O played down to them.


Chiefs won. The only NFC West team to win were the Seahawks. Redskins lost (sorry Sniksder) and....I can only pray the Cowboys and Bears tear each other from limb to limb...injuring numerous players and ending in a 0-0 tie.


:laugh:

[Thawmus]

aaaaand I'm the only fool picking Green Bay this weekend.... :(

Yay for the fools!!! :laugh:

[Psylockeslover]

San Diego vs. Green Bay-L
Minnesota vs. Kansas City-W
Buffalo vs. New England-W
Miami vs. New York Jets-L
Detroit vs. Philadelphia-L
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh-W
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay-L
Arizona vs. Baltimore-W
Indianapolis vs. Houston-W
Jacksonville vs. Denver-L
Cleveland vs. Oakland-L
Cincinnati vs. Seattle-L
Carolina vs. Atlanta-W
New York Giants vs. Washington-L
Dallas vs. Chicago-W

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 37 points-W


8-8 on the week, and 34-14 on the season......:ermm:

[Shadow40]

Well I'm 8-8 for the second week in a row. 27-20 for the season.

[Thawmus]

Well, I guess I'll play just for the fun of it at this point.

Really wish I knew there was an NFL forum a couple of weeks ago. :(


San Diego vs. Green Bay +
Minnesota vs. Kansas City -
Buffalo vs. New England +
Miami vs. New York Jets -
Detroit vs. Philadelphia -
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh +
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay +
Arizona vs. Baltimore +
Indianapolis vs. Houston +
Jacksonville vs. Denver +
Cleveland vs. Oakland -
Cincinnati vs. Seattle -
Carolina vs. Atlanta +
New York Giants vs. Washington +
Dallas vs. Chicago -

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans - Score: 23-17 +


I'm hoping that I'm super wrong about Indy and Tennessee. Houston could be interesting this year. And NO will get it in gear sooner or later, I'm hoping sooner, but it looks more and more like later.

10-6. Could have done much better without the stupid picks. Dallas and Seattle being the biggest blunders.

[NeoShazam]

Ugh...6-10 this week. 29-18 for the year.

The NFL seems quite schizophrenic right now. So I think the ultimate mindboggler for next week is Philadelphia versus New York Giants.

[BudPalmer]

San Diego vs. Green Bay - L
Minnesota vs. Kansas City - L
Buffalo vs. New England - W
Miami vs. New York Jets - L
Detroit vs. Philadelphia - L
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh - W
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay - W
Arizona vs. Baltimore - L
Indianapolis vs. Houston - W
Jacksonville vs. Denver - L
Cleveland vs. Oakland - W
Cincinnati vs. Seattle - L
Carolina vs. Atlanta - W
New York Giants vs. Washington - L
Dallas vs. Chicago - W

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans - W

8-8 this week (I've been getting progressively worse each week). I'm at 28-19.

[Bubblehead]

First off, screw you hippies........

Seahawks are going to strike back like the Empire this week. Call it a hunch! ;)


San Diego vs. Green Bay
Minnesota vs. Kansas City
Buffalo vs. New England
Miami vs. New York Jets
Detroit vs. Philadelphia 3-0??? Is it snowing in Hell yet? ;)
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh 9ers exposed right here.
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay No O-line = lots of losses
Arizona vs. Baltimore Arizona will fight but not enough.
Indianapolis vs. Houston
Jacksonville vs. Denver
Cleveland vs. Oakland
Cincinnati vs. Seattle A shootout with Seattle having the better D.
Carolina vs. Atlanta
New York Giants vs. Washington
Dallas vs. Chicago They still have Grossman...not enough.

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans 37 total score


10-6!

Not bad at all considering I went against the grain on a couple picks and got burned besides the usual upsets.

[KitsuShel]

If I counted right, I'm 11-5 this past week, and 31-16 overall.

[spiderman9797]

Wow, with Deuce out and the Saints going 0-3, I don't think I've ever been more depressed due to football.

The sad thing is, Deuce might not ever play on the Saints team again. It's going to be tremendously hard for him to come back from 2 of his knees being reconstructed in 3 years. He was one of my favorite players in the NFL, because he was SUCH a hard runner and such an incredible guy. It hurts me to see him go out like this.:cry:

If that wasn't bad enough, I am more mad at Sean Payton than I thought I would ever be. You absolutely cannot run the ball 14 times and pass the ball 45 times in a game. It's been like that since Chicago (where we had a HUGE pass-based offense), and we have been blown out in every game since Chicago. I think I see a connection.:angry: I understand that Reggie isn't Deuce, and that he isn't your power back. But you need to give him the ball on the ground. If you develop a rushing game, you can get your passing game going. If that isn't reason enough, with Deuce hurt you have to realize that Reggie Bush is the future of your running game on your team. You have to get him accustomed to running the ball often, and he will get better and he will make plays.

Of course, it all comes down to the fact that we have lost the past 3 games in the trenches; at the line, on either side of the ball. Vince Young was rushed once, maybe twice all night last night while Drew Brees was rushed virtually every single passing play, and that was with a 3 or 4 man rush. We have, arguably, the best D-End pair in the NFL (before this season), and we can't even pressure the quarterback. We also have a Pro-Bowl Left Tackle who can't block to save his life right now, with Jari Evans supposed to be doing just as good (as Jamal Brown, our Pro-Bowl Left Tackle). You can't totally blame Drew Brees when he is under attack on absolutely every play.

It's scary right now, and I just hope to God that this bye week can get us in shape. I am certainly not considering us out right now. By no means, actually. I keep telling myself, my friends, and my family "Hey, don't get worried; 13-3 is a great record":laugh: We might not go 13-3, but it's always better to be optomistic and have the kinda attitude.

I hope, more than anything, that Sean Payton realizes he isn't doing well and that he needs to RUN THE BALL.

On another note, my fantasy team won due to Drew and Marques having horrible nights (my opponent had them), and Reggie Bush getting our only 2 TD's.:cheeky:

[Thawmus]

Wow, with Deuce out and the Saints going 0-3, I don't think I've ever been more depressed due to football.

The sad thing is, Deuce might not ever play on the Saints team again. It's going to be tremendously hard for him to come back from 2 of his knees being reconstructed in 3 years. He was one of my favorite players in the NFL, because he was SUCH a hard runner and such an incredible guy. It hurts me to see him go out like this.:cry:

If that wasn't bad enough, I am more mad at Sean Payton than I thought I would ever be. You absolutely cannot run the ball 14 times and pass the ball 45 times in a game. It's been like that since Chicago (where we had a HUGE pass-based offense), and we have been blown out in every game since Chicago. I think I see a connection.:angry: I understand that Reggie isn't Deuce, and that he isn't your power back. But you need to give him the ball on the ground. If you develop a rushing game, you can get your passing game going. If that isn't reason enough, with Deuce hurt you have to realize that Reggie Bush is the future of your running game on your team. You have to get him accustomed to running the ball often, and he will get better and he will make plays.

Of course, it all comes down to the fact that we have lost the past 3 games in the trenches; at the line, on either side of the ball. Vince Young was rushed once, maybe twice all night last night while Drew Brees was rushed virtually every single passing play, and that was with a 3 or 4 man rush. We have, arguably, the best D-End pair in the NFL (before this season), and we can't even pressure the quarterback. We also have a Pro-Bowl Left Tackle who can't block to save his life right now, with Jari Evans supposed to be doing just as good (as Jamal Brown, our Pro-Bowl Left Tackle). You can't totally blame Drew Brees when he is under attack on absolutely every play.

It's scary right now, and I just hope to God that this bye week can get us in shape. I am certainly not considering us out right now. By no means, actually. I keep telling myself, my friends, and my family "Hey, don't get worried; 13-3 is a great record":laugh: We might not go 13-3, but it's always better to be optomistic and have the kinda attitude.

I hope, more than anything, that Sean Payton realizes he isn't doing well and that he needs to RUN THE BALL.

On another note, my fantasy team won due to Drew and Marques having horrible nights (my opponent had them), and Reggie Bush getting our only 2 TD's.:cheeky:

I can understand and feel the frustration. I'm not a Saints fan, but I'm definitely a Drew Brees fan, and last night was just....I don't really know how to describe it. He seemed to be freaking out for the first half, throwing the ball wildly about, and not hitting anyone.

I will second that Sean Peyton is being rather stupid. I hate hate hate hate HATE when head coaches call a timeout when their team has got some momentum going. He did it all 3 times during the first half, and I just about screamed at the TV. And I will also second that Bush needs the rock.

Where the hell was their O-line???? I don't think those guys were slowed down at ALL trying to get to Drew. And on top of that, they weren't committing anyone to the pass rush!!! They had 7 guys in the backfield, and NO still couldn't block their 4 on the line. :ermm:

Their defense has always been a weak point of their team, but they really don't fail due to talent. They fail due to horrible horrible mental mistakes. Like committing 8 players to chasing Vince Young in the Red Zone, when he has nowhere to go. What do you know? He passes in for a TD to someone completely uncovered! How about that??


I still think they'll eventually spring back, but I think the real question is: "How long is it gonna take?" :(





......waitaminute, who are you???

[spiderman9797]

Even now, and I say this out of truth and not just ignorant optomism, I believe that the Saints can still bounce back.

But you're right. It's just a matter of when, and if they can do it in time to make the playoffs. Do I believe they can? I am sure of it. Do I believe they will? I'm not so confident in that area.

It all starts with the trenches, though. We need to get our O-line and our D-line in shape. That's where the game is often decided. We do that, and our running game is opened up while our opponents' passing games are hindered. Their passing game is hindered, we will get the ball more often. We get the ball more often with an in-shape O-line, we run the ball more effectively. We run the ball effectively, and it opens the passing game.

That's how we did it all last year up until Chicago, and that's how I want it now.:ermm:

[Shadow40]

WEEK 4 Games

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Loius vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 49 total points


I'm choosing the winners early this week. I usually like to wait until Friday to get most of the reports on injuries and starters, but I don't know if I'll be here Friday or the weekend so I'll choose early and change the winner of each team before Sunday if I hear anything new that might change the outcome of the game.

[BudPalmer]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Loius vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 42 total points

[Psylockeslover]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Loius vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati-70

[KitsuShel]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Loius vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 44 points

[Thawmus]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Loius vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 38- something. :laugh:

[lensnart]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Loius vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 48

[lensnart]

Any chance of getting an update of the overall scores so far? I want to know how far behind I am.

[Psylockeslover]

Any chance of getting an update of the overall scores so far? I want to know how far behind I am.

I've been doing my own, so.....


Get of yer lazy rear and do it yerself!;)

[BudPalmer]

I've been doing my own, so.....


Get of yer lazy rear and do it yerself!;)


Sheesh, Canadians! :p

[spiderman9797]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Loius vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 58

[NeoShazam]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Louis vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 59 points

[Bubblehead]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland I have no idea why but somehow......
St. Loius vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami Did I just pick "da Raiduhs?" :speechles
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco Good Lord, the Seahawks need to win this and win they shall!!!!!!!
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona May be more wishful thinking than not....
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 48

[spiderman9797]

Baltimore vs. Cleveland I have no idea why but somehow......

Dude, I had the exact same feeling. I felt like picking Cleveland as the upset special of the week, but I had no idea why I was feeling that way.

So I just played it safe and took Baltimore.

Which, going by my luck, means that Cleveland will surely win.

[BudPalmer]

No, the upset special is Detroit over a very banged up Bears D. I too pussed out.

[spiderman9797]

No, the upset special is Detroit over a very banged up Bears D. I too pussed out.
More like a QB who knows what he is doing (hello, Brian) against an absolutely horrible pass defense (hello, Detroit Defense), as proved in last week's game against Donovan.

[BudPalmer]

I'm going on the record as saying Griese is not the answer the Bears are looking for.

[stark's heir]

I'm going on the record as saying Griese is not the answer the Bears are looking for.

I second it... Some fans (and coaches, GM's, etc.) are just idiots. Looking for the quick fix. Griese will be welcome until he starts throwing picks, fumbling, etc. If he doesn't then great, but there's a reason he has been on 4 or 5 teams...

[Antipathy]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Louis vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 38 points

[stark's heir]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo (2 wins for the Jets? That's Unpossible!)
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Louis vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis (Upset Special!!!)
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona (Too easy...)
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philthydelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 52 total points

[spiderman9797]

I'm going on the record as saying Griese is not the answer the Bears are looking for.
I agree, but I think that even Rex would look good against Detroit.

[TheProphecy212]

Hmm, I never did this before,but it seems fun.
Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Louis vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 56

[DOOMBOTSKI]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Louis vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Phildelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 48 total points

[DocDoom187]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Louis vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 27 points

[tyroclix]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
St. Louis vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 52 points

[tyroclix]

week 3 recap:

San Diego vs. Green Bay:cry:
Minnesota vs. Kansas City:cry:
Buffalo vs. New England:cool:
Miami vs. New York Jets:cry: :cry:
Detroit vs. Philadelphia:cool:
San Francisco vs. Pittsburgh:cool:
St. Louis vs. Tampa Bay:cool:
Arizona vs. Baltimore:cool:
Indianapolis vs. Houston:cool:
Jacksonville vs. Denver:cool:
Cleveland vs. Oakland:cry:
Cincinnati vs. Seattle:cry:
Carolina vs. Atlanta:cool:
New York Giants vs. Washington:cry:
Dallas vs. Chicago:cry:

Monday Night Game
Tennessee vs. New Orleans total score 49 points. :cry:

8-8

If my calculations are correct, I've got a "whopping" 15 points for the season.

[sniksder]

ATL
BAL
MIA
DET
NYJ
MIN
STL
SF
CAR
SD
IND
ARI
NYG
CIN - 62

[DocDoom187]

Denver Indianapolis should be an awesome game!

[spiderman9797]

*looks at the Cleveland/Baltimore game*

I hate myself.

[spiderman9797]

Denver Indianapolis should be an awesome game!
That's going to be one of the toughest Pass Defenses that Indy will face this year, if not -the- toughest. Right now, they are ranked the best with allowing an average 88 passing yards a game (which is incredible). But hey, I guess that's what you get whenever you have Dre Bly, Champ Bailey (easily the best Cornerback right now, and one of the best Cornerbacks in the history of the game), and John Lynch all as your D-Backs.

Or maybe it's because they're so easy to run on.

[NeoShazam]

This week's results are making me look horrible, but now I feel hopeful about being a Bengal Fan :) , even though I didn't pick them :(

[Thawmus]

Champ Bailey (easily the best Cornerback right now, and one of the best Cornerbacks in the history of the game),

Seconded, thirded, stamped, approved, and preached.

Every QB that throws to the guy he's covering, is a moron. On the upside, the ball will definitely be caught. On the downside, it won't be his receiver catching the ball.


If I saw my receiver being defended by Champ Bailey, I'd pretend he didn't exist anymore. There's no reason to throw ANYWHERE NEAR this guy.

[BudPalmer]

Dude, I had the exact same feeling. I felt like picking Cleveland as the upset special of the week, but I had no idea why I was feeling that way.

So I just played it safe and took Baltimore.

Which, going by my luck, means that Cleveland will surely win.


No, the upset special is Detroit over a very banged up Bears D. I too pussed out.

Looks like we were both right. Too bad we don't listen to our own picks! :ermm:

[Thawmus]

Seconded, thirded, stamped, approved, and preached.

Every QB that throws to the guy he's covering, is a moron. On the upside, the ball will definitely be caught. On the downside, it won't be his receiver catching the ball.


If I saw my receiver being defended by Champ Bailey, I'd pretend he didn't exist anymore. There's no reason to throw ANYWHERE NEAR this guy.

After reading a stat sheet, I thought I'd post this...

Champ covered Harrison all day yesterday, and it shows:

Harrison had 1 reception all game, for 8 yards.

[BudPalmer]

After reading a stat sheet, I thought I'd post this...

Champ covered Harrison all day yesterday, and it shows:

Harrison had 1 reception all game, for 8 yards.

With Harrison being listed as questionable for next week's game, Champ might not have had as much to do with it as you may think.

[NeoShazam]

With Harrison being list as questionable for next week's game, Champ might not have had as much to do with it as you may think.

Yeah, I saw him crumpled on the field with injury getting blindsided by a tackler while run blocking before the end of the first half.

[Thawmus]

With Harrison being list as questionable for next week's game, Champ might not have had as much to do with it as you may think.

That's cuz Champ scared him into being injured.....and stuff......yeah.... :noid:

[Thawmus]

And speaking of injuries, Cadillac Williams is pretty much out for the season. :(

[spiderman9797]

I saw a stat this season that had to do with Champ and Marvin.

When Indy had Marvin before Denver had Champ, Marvin averaged 1.3 Touchdowns a game and over 100 yards receiving in each game.

Since Denver got Champ? Marvin has only had an average 44 yards a game and only 1 touchdown in the 3 or 4 games that they have played.

And that's saying an awful lot considering Marvin is one of the best Wide Receivers in the game with the best quarterback in the game throwing to him, yet Champ can still shut Marving down by himself.

[Psylockeslover]

Houston vs. Atlanta-L
New York Jets vs. Buffalo-L
Baltimore vs. Cleveland-L
St. Loius vs. Dallas-W
Chicago vs. Detroit-W
Oakland vs. Miami-W
Green Bay vs. Minnesota-W
Seattle vs. San Francisco-L
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina-L
Denver vs. Indianapolis-W
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona-L
Kansas City vs. San Diego-L
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants-L

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati-70-W


Wow. 6-8 this week.....40-22 on the season.....getting worse each week......:ermm:

[Bubblehead]

I'll say this:

Patriots 4-0


But really, who have they played??????????


No one good.....yet.

[tyroclix]

Week 4 Results:

Houston vs. Atlanta:cool:
New York Jets vs. Buffalo:cool:
Baltimore vs. Cleveland:cry:
St. Louis vs. Dallas:cool:
Chicago vs. Detroit:cool:
Oakland vs. Miami:cry: :cry:
Green Bay vs. Minnesota:cry:
Seattle vs. San Francisco:cool:
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina:cool:
Denver vs. Indianapolis:cool:
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona:cry:
Kansas City vs. San Diego:cry:
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants:cool:

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 52 points:cool:

9-5, my best week so far.

24 points for me...

That's the awesome record of 25-23.

[tyroclix]

I'll say this:

Patriots 4-0


But really, who have they played??????????


No one good.....yet.

I hate the Patseys, that being said, who is 'good' that they need to play? The NFL is all about mediocrity, er, parity.

[Thawmus]

I'll say this:

Patriots 4-0


But really, who have they played??????????


No one good.....yet.

I don't think Cleveland is going to be a huge test for them, but they better not be asleep at the wheel when they play the Browns. Cleveland dismantled what is largely considered the best defense in the NFL, and handily so. :confused:

[Thawmus]

Houston vs. Atlanta - No
New York Jets vs. Buffalo - No
Baltimore vs. Cleveland - No
St. Loius vs. Dallas - Yes
Chicago vs. Detroit - Yes
Oakland vs. Miami - Yes
Green Bay vs. Minnesota - Yes
Seattle vs. San Francisco - Yes
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina - Yes
Denver vs. Indianapolis - Yes
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona - No
Kansas City vs. San Diego - No
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants - No

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 38- something. :laugh: - Yes

8-6 this week, not too shabby. :)

[Shadow40]

6-8 for the week:(. 33-28 for the season. Not too good.

[NeoShazam]

Ugh...5-9 for the week.

[Bubblehead]

Houston vs. Atlanta
New York Jets vs. Buffalo
Baltimore vs. Cleveland I have no idea why but somehow......
St. Loius vs. Dallas
Chicago vs. Detroit
Oakland vs. Miami Did I just pick "da Raiduhs?" :speechles
Green Bay vs. Minnesota
Seattle vs. San Francisco Good Lord, the Seahawks need to win this and win they shall!!!!!!!
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina
Denver vs. Indianapolis
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona May be more wishful thinking than not....
Kansas City vs. San Diego
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 48


First: 47 on the monday night! DANG!!!! BY ONE POINT! :laugh:

9-5 for this week of picks. Not so bad. Nailed a couple upsets in a loaded week! WOOHOO!!!!


Note to 9797.......listen to your inner Kiper Jr. Stick with your gut. Cleveland is going to be that 8-8 or 7-9 team that can beat the Patriots but lose to .....well.....you get the picture. ;)

I keed! I keed! (until Seattle plays N'awlins in 2 weeks!)

[BudPalmer]

Houston vs. Atlanta -L-
New York Jets vs. Buffalo -L-
Baltimore vs. Cleveland -L-
St. Loius vs. Dallas -W-
Chicago vs. Detroit -L- (KNEW IT!)
Oakland vs. Miami -L-
Green Bay vs. Minnesota -W-
Seattle vs. San Francisco -W-
Tampa Bay vs. Carolina -W-
Denver vs. Indianapolis -W-
Pittsburgh vs. Arizona -L-
Kansas City vs. San Diego -L-
Philadelphia vs. New York Giants -L-

Monday Night Game
New England vs. Cincinnati 42 total points -W-

Yikes! 6-8 :(

[Bubblehead]

Week 5 Games

Miami at Houston
Atlanta at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Kansas City
NY Jets at NY Giants I pick NY! j/k hmmmm Jets...why not.
Carolina at New Orleans That's right! I went there! First win
Arizona at St. Louis Rams=Worst team in NFL
Cleveland at New England I think this is close.
Seattle at Pittsburgh Calling this like I see it.......REVENGE!
Detroit at Washington
Tampa Bay at Indianapolis Mighty Indy falters once here
San Diego at Denver Norv keeps it simple..Run, Run, Run
Baltimore at San Francisco
Chicago at Green Bay yep. GB is one dimensional and the Bears D wins this game single handedly...(there's no other way)

Dallas at Buffalo this is the MNF game??? yuck 28pts

[BudPalmer]

Miami at Houston
Atlanta at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Kansas City
NY Jets at NY Giants
Carolina at New Orleans
Arizona at St. Louis Rams
Cleveland at New England
Seattle at Pittsburgh
Detroit at Washington
Tampa Bay at Indianapolis
San Diego at Denver
Baltimore at San Francisco
Chicago at Green Bay

Dallas at Buffalo - 41 pts

[Thawmus]

Watch out for Cleveland, folks. They could easily catch New England napping..... :confused:

[Psylockeslover]

Miami at Houston
Atlanta at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Kansas City
NY Jets at NY Giants
Carolina at New Orleans
Arizona at St. Louis Rams
Cleveland at New England
Seattle at Pittsburgh
Detroit at Washington
Tampa Bay at Indianapolis
San Diego at Denver
Baltimore at San Francisco
Chicago at Green Bay

Dallas at Buffalo-45 points

[NeoShazam]

Miami at Houston
Atlanta at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Kansas City
NY Jets at NY Giants
Carolina at New Orleans
Arizona at St. Louis Rams
Cleveland at New England
Seattle at Pittsburgh
Detroit at Washington
Tampa Bay at Indianapolis
San Diego at Denver
Baltimore at San Francisco
Chicago at Green Bay

Dallas at Buffalo - 38 points

[spiderman9797]

Miami at Houston
Atlanta at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Kansas City
NY Jets at NY Giants
Carolina at New Orleans
Arizona at St. Louis Rams
Cleveland at New England
Seattle at Pittsburgh
Detroit at Washington
Tampa Bay at Indianapolis DING DING DING, upset special!
San Diego at Denver
Baltimore at San Francisco
Chicago at Green Bay

Dallas at Buffalo 45 points

[Thawmus]

Subject to change at the end of the week:

Miami at Houston - Houston needs to win this game. If they lose this game, they can pack everything up.

Atlanta at Tennessee - Tennessee is for real, folks.

Jacksonville at Kansas City - Isn't it amazing how, when they decide to pass the ball, LJ can rush for over a buck? I think they have a name for that, but I'm not sure. Something that sounded like, "Jalanced offense". I don't think that's it, but it sounds awfully similar....if they keep passing to Bowe, and opening up the run for LJ, they're going to be workable. Jacksonville sucks.

NY Jets at NY Giants - The Giants are inconsistent at best, but the Jets suck.

Carolina at New Orleans - Everyone's wanting for New Orleans to win this game, and so am I. They've got to win a game sometime this season. It might as well be at home against a newly demoralized Carolina. I might caution, however, that last year, when NO was awesome, Carolina beat them at home....

Arizona at St. Louis Rams - Warner, Leinart, whatever. Not like the Rams care anymore... :(

Cleveland at New England - One of two upset picks I'm making this week. Cleveland SHOULD be 3-1 right now, but instead they had a blocked kick by Oakland at the end of the game. And they didn't let that get the best of them. They dismantled the Ravens' Defense, and held them off in the red zone consistently last week (although, Baltimore has always struggled in the red zone, offensively). And say what you will about New England's win over Cincinnati, but I was thoroughly unimpressed with their performance against what is largely one of the most dismal defenses in the league. 34 points is NOTHING compared to what they should have scored in that game. Look for the Browns to catch the Pats napping, folks.

Seattle at Pittsburgh - I'm a Steeler fan, it's true, but I don't blind pick for my team. I really think that Seattle needs to get some things together for their offense. They're still severely under-utilizing their offense. We might see them snap out of it this game, but I think being on the road in the Steel City is the last thing they need to kick-start their O.

Detroit at Washington - Jon Kitna is officially insane. He's been sacked more times than anyone else so far this season, but he has more passing yards than anyone else this season. When this guy says he's going to get the team 10 wins, he friggin' means it! I'm continually inspired by the numbers he's putting up. This guy is a game manager has-been that decided to step up to the plate, and give out a career season. I advise people to start paying attention. He's for real. His team's for real. IF his O-line decides to stop having tea-parties at the line of scrimmage, they're going to be THE most unstoppable offense this year. That's a big "IF" though....

Tampa Bay at Indianapolis - My other upset pick. Tampa Bay is for real, and they're going to be a sleeper. Garcia is NOT a game manager anymore. Whatever they decided to do with him, he's winning games, and his team is just on a roll. This will be a good test for Indy, as well. We'll finally see them take on a worthy opponent. If you can watch this game, do it, it should be fun. :)

San Diego at Denver - Turner's still coaching. 'Nuff said. :sleep:

Baltimore at San Francisco - Baltimore is NOT that bad. Cleveland is that GOOD. Baltimore definitely needs to step up their red zone offense. They don't have Lewis to pound that ball in anymore. They're going to have to *gasp* find a different goal line play.

Chicago at Green Bay - Chicago's one and only consistent style of offense just happens to go against what Green Bay is the best at defending. And it doesn't help that Favre's on a roll. I heard some great advice I think Lovie should take up: Put Devin Hester in the QB position, and snap the ball in a wing formation every play.


Dallas at Buffalo - Um, yeah. 45-zip. On monday night. No, I'm not kidding.

[spiderman9797]

I don't think Cleveland is bad, but I certainly don't think they're good. I expect their confidence to be lowered when they lose to New England. New England WON'T be caught napping. They never do. It's against Bill's way of coaching. He does hand out that humble pie for a reason, and he never underestimates a team.

The only other thing that I disagreed with, Thawmus, was your bold (very much so) statement that if the Lions' O-Line stepped up, they would be the most unstoppable offense this year. Just not happening. Jon Kitna is pretty good. He's not in the same league as Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Roy Williams is pretty good. He's not nearly as good as Marvin Harrison or Randy Moss. Calvin Johnson is good, but he certainly isn't Reggie Wayne (yet). Tatum Bell and Kevin Jones are fairly good, but neither of them are nearly as good as Joseph Addai or Laurence Maroney, and to be honest Sammy Morris is just as good as both of them. Not only that, but neither of the Lions' Tight Ends are anywhere close to Ben Watson or Dallas Clark.

No doubt they would have a really good offense (they need it with that Defense), but it wouldn't be the most unstoppable offense out there.

[Thawmus]

I don't think Cleveland is bad, but I certainly don't think they're good. I expect their confidence to be lowered when they lose to New England. New England WON'T be caught napping. They never do. It's against Bill's way of coaching. He does hand out that humble pie for a reason, and he never underestimates a team.

That's not true. While they are certainly the smartest football team in the NFL, they've been caught sleeping before. And it's been happening more often in recent years. I can see it happening.

The only other thing that I disagreed with, Thawmus, was your bold (very much so) statement that if the Lions' O-Line stepped up, they would be the most unstoppable offense this year. Just not happening. Jon Kitna is pretty good. He's not in the same league as Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Roy Williams is pretty good. He's not nearly as good as Marvin Harrison or Randy Moss. Calvin Johnson is good, but he certainly isn't Reggie Wayne (yet). Tatum Bell and Kevin Jones are fairly good, but neither of them are nearly as good as Joseph Addai or Laurence Maroney, and to be honest Sammy Morris is just as good as both of them. Not only that, but neither of the Lions' Tight Ends are anywhere close to Ben Watson or Dallas Clark.

I would say that the players you mentioned don't want to win nearly as bad as their Detroit counterparts do. And don't forget that Kitna doesn't just have Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson to throw to. He also has Shaun McDonald and Mike Furrey, who are very good receivers as well. In a 4-wide formation, they pose a very large offensive threat.

Kevin Jones needed to split time with someone, and he finally got to do that more this year. He's not good enough to get 100% of the carries. Tatum gives him the break he needed to be successful.

And Kitna is, again, out-producing the rest of the league's QB's, while he's laying on the ground after, what is it so far? 18, 19 sacks for the season? He's got so much determination right now that I'm sure he'd play ball as well as he is if he was shot several times in the chest before the game. Of course he's not Peyton Manning or any of those QB's. But those QB's aren't having their career seasons. Kitna is.

Heart counts for more in football than most think. And Detroit's offense has more of it right now than any other offense in the league. And it translates into what you're seeing on the stat sheet.

No doubt they would have a really good offense (they need it with that Defense), but it wouldn't be the most unstoppable offense out there.

I think the Chicago defense would like to disagree with you.

[spiderman9797]

I think the Chicago defense would like to disagree with you.
Hey, when you lose 4 starters on defense (good starters at that), your obviously not going to be as good as normal.

[NeoShazam]

Calling upsets of Tampa Bay over Indy and Browns over New England, but not Seattle over Pittsburgh ? Homer ;)

Unfortunately Seattle throttled the Niners last week and Pittsburgh faded to Arizona last week, if they don't get Heinz Ward back I figure they lose ( I picked them unsure of his status ).

Tampa Bay at HOME versus Indy I can buy that upset, but at home Indy is ridiculous.

And though the Browns are getting better under Derek Anderson, I'm not sure when the Patriots lose, if at all.

[Bubblehead]

I'm still of the opinion that if the Seahawks D stops Willie Parker then the game is very much winnable. I just don't see "Air Roethlisberger" attacking them too much. Seahawks secondary is vastly improved over last year. So.........if Hines Ward is kept on the sidelines....


ALL THE BETTER!!!!!!!!! :devious:

There ya go. It's pretty much the "best" game going on this week.

The only game I'm waffling on is Jets/Giants.... I think I may have erred there.

[Thawmus]

Calling upsets of Tampa Bay over Indy and Browns over New England, but not Seattle over Pittsburgh ? Homer ;)

Unfortunately Seattle throttled the Niners last week and Pittsburgh faded to Arizona last week, if they don't get Heinz Ward back I figure they lose ( I picked them unsure of his status ).

Tampa Bay at HOME versus Indy I can buy that upset, but at home Indy is ridiculous.

And though the Browns are getting better under Derek Anderson, I'm not sure when the Patriots lose, if at all.

Well, that's why they're upset picks. They're unlikely, but just picking the favorites down the board isn't going to get you ahead.

[Shadow40]

Atlanta vs. Tennessee
Jacksonville vs. Kansas City
Arizona vs. St. Louis
Cleveland vs. New England
Carolina vs. New Orleans
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Detroit vs. Washington
Miami vs. Houston
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis
San Diego vs. Denver
Baltimore vs. San Francisco
Chicago vs. Green Bay

Monday Night Game

Dallas vs. Buffalo 49 points total

[supermangl1]

I was behind it seems in finding this thread! I have some making up to do!

Atlanta v. Tennessee
Jacksonville v. Kansas City
Arizona vs. St. Louis
Cleveland vs. New England
Carolina vs. New Orleans
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Detroit vs. Washington
Miami vs. Houston
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis
San Diego vs. Denver

Dallas vs. Buffalo Point total:55

Good luck all.

[spiderman9797]

I might caution, however, that last year, when NO was awesome, Carolina beat them at home....[/I]

I would like to note that the only time that we had our starting offense out on the field (it was the last game of the season, and we had our bye in the playoffs already), we drove down the field and scored a touchdown. The only time that we had our starting defense on the field, Carolina was held to 6 plays and a punt.

I admit I think Steve Smith scares the hell out of me with our awful pass defense, but their win against us last year (at home) meant little to nothing.

On another note, sweet Jesus does San Diego need to run the ball. Not only is it fairly easy to run on Denver and they have LT, but they're going up against the best pass defense in the league.

[supermangl1]

I think the Colts are too banged up right now, and the Bucs will pull this week out for a win. They seem very solid right now.

New England will gets some points scored on them in the first half, then shut them down the second half.

Saints MUST win this game or it's going to be a loooong season. Run the ball! *EDIT with Carr pulling the trigger, the Saints got a nice early Christmas present.

Poor Chargers, Miami, and Rams...their horrible seasons have only just begun. The defense of these teams are staggeringly bad!

MNF: Dallas wins handily, but I think the Bills put up 2 TD's on them. They aren't THAT bad, and with maybe some life signs coming from Edwards at QB, they get a little something going in the first half.
5 TDs for Dallas and 2 TDs for Bills.

And my Titans are for real folks. That defense is tons better then I ever thought.

[Thawmus]

I would like to note that the only time that we had our starting offense out on the field (it was the last game of the season, and we had our bye in the playoffs already), we drove down the field and scored a touchdown. The only time that we had our starting defense on the field, Carolina was held to 6 plays and a punt.

I admit I think Steve Smith scares the hell out of me with our awful pass defense, but their win against us last year (at home) meant little to nothing.

I didn't say it meant anything. I'm just saying it's going to be a tough game. Regardless of the factors involved, a win is a win, and psychologically, it'll still have to be dealt with.

On another note, sweet Jesus does San Diego need to run the ball. Not only is it fairly easy to run on Denver and they have LT, but they're going up against the best pass defense in the league.


This is why I hate Turner. In the last game, LT had over a buck in rushing after the first quarter or so. And then he stopped getting the rock. Because it made much more sense to stop doing what was working, and let Rivers lose the game again for them. :rolleyes:

And yeah, I see him continuing to be so utterly stupid, and having Rivers try and throw to whoever Champ Bailey is covering all day. The day I start picking for San Diego is the day that Turner is taken out of playcalling, or fired.

[spiderman9797]

I think the Colts are too banged up right now, and the Bucs will pull this week out for a win. They seem very solid right now.
If the Colts had Marvin and Joseph, I truly believe that they would win. But without 2 of their star players, I just don't think they will win against a hot Bucs right now.

Saints MUST win this game or it's going to be a loooong season. Run the ball! *EDIT with Carr pulling the trigger, the Saints got a nice early Christmas present.
"Run the ball!"? Look at my avatar, man. I hope that they run the ball a lot more than they have. Also, Steve Smith doesn't scare me as much knowing that David Carr is playing and not Jake.

And my Titans are for real folks. That defense is tons better then I ever thought.
I never once doubted that. Their defense is pretty good, no joke. And this is without Pacman, too. The real kicker is Vince (as if that isn't said enough). I don't know what it is about him, but he just wins games. Against the most impossible odds and with a team that isn't stellar against All-Star teams, he manages to carry the team and win. Winning is just something that Vince does.

[Thawmus]

If the Colts had Marvin and Joseph, I truly believe that they would win. But without 2 of their star players, I just don't think they will win against a hot Bucs right now.


"Run the ball!"? Look at my avatar, man. I hope that they run the ball a lot more than they have. Also, Steve Smith doesn't scare me as much knowing that David Carr is playing and not Jake.


I never once doubted that. Their defense is pretty good, no joke. And this is without Pacman, too. The real kicker is Vince (as if that isn't said enough). I don't know what it is about him, but he just wins games. Against the most impossible odds and with a team that isn't stellar against All-Star teams, he manages to carry the team and win. Winning is just something that Vince does.

It's not even Vince Young anymore, though. Between Brown and White, they have the most potent 1-2 punch in the league.

[stark's heir]

Atlanta vs. Tennessee
Jacksonville vs. Kansas City
Arizona vs. St. Louis
Cleveland vs. New England
Carolina vs. New Orleans
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Detroit vs. Washington
Miami vs. Houston
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis
San Diego vs. Denver
Baltimore vs. San Francisco
Chicago vs. Green Bay

Monday Night Game

Dallas vs. Buffalo 58 points total

[Antipathy]

Atlanta vs. Tennessee
Jacksonville vs. Kansas City
Arizona vs. St. Louis
Cleveland vs. New England
Carolina vs. New Orleans
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Detroit vs. Washington
Miami vs. Houston
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis
San Diego vs. Denver
Baltimore vs. San Francisco
Chicago vs. Green Bay

Monday Night Game

Dallas vs. Buffalo 38 points total

[KitsuShel]

Atlantavs. Tennessee
Jacksonville vs. Kansas City
Arizona vs. St. Louis
Cleveland vs. New England
Carolina vs. New Orleans
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Detroit vs. Washington
Miami vs. Houston
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis
San Diego vs. Denver
Baltimore vs. San Francisco
Chicago vs. Green Bay

Monday
Dallas vs. Buffalo 44 points total

[sniksder]

Atlantavs. Tennessee
Jacksonville vs. Kansas City
Arizona vs. St. Louis
Cleveland vs. New England
Carolina vs. New Orleans
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Detroitvs. Washington
Miamivs. Houston
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis
San Diego vs. Denver
Baltimore vs. San Francisco
Chicago vs. Green Bay

Monday
Dallas vs. Buffalo 52

[DOOMBOTSKI]

Atlanta vs. Tennessee
Jacksonville vs. Kansas City
Arizona vs. St. Louis
Cleveland vs. New England
Carolina vs. New Orleans
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Detroit vs. Washington
Miami vs. Houston
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis
San Diego vs. Denver
Baltimore vs. San Francisco
Chicago vs. Green Bay

Monday Night Game

Dallas vs. Buffalo 46 points

[tyroclix]

And the shame continues...

Atlanta vs. Tennessee
Jacksonville vs. Kansas City
Arizona vs. St. Louis
Cleveland vs. New England
Carolina vs. New Orleans They're due. They're due!!!
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Detroit vs. Washington
Miami vs. Houston
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis
San Diego vs. Denver
Baltimore vs. San Francisco
Chicago vs. Green Bay

Monday Night Game

Dallas vs. Buffalo 27 points

[spiderman9797]

I changed my Denver vs San Diego and Seattle vs Pittsburg votes. I now think San Diego and Pittsburg will win.

Just thought I should say that and it be noted that I changed them before the games started.

[DocDoom187]

Atlanta v. Tennessee
Jacksonville v. Kansas City
Arizona vs. St. Louis
Cleveland vs. New England
Carolina vs. New Orleans
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh
Detroit vs. Washington
Miami vs. Houston
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis
San Diego vs. Denver

Dallas vs. Buffalo Point (30)
Good luck all.

[spiderman9797]

I'm REALLY happy that I changed my Seahawks/Pittsburg vote.:surprised

[spiderman9797]

And the Saints fall again. Sean Payton and his "let's not run the ball" attitude.

Mike just intercepts the ball and brings it to their 40. Sean Payton decides to throw the ball 3 times in a row? Are you kidding? Why wouldn't you run the ball? Every time that Reggie ran it up the middle, he got 5 - 6 yards. Every time he ran it to the outside, he either got no yards or lost a yard. So you decide to throw it? 3 times in a row? Jeez, Sean Payton really needs to step up the coaching.

[Thawmus]

I'm REALLY happy that I changed my Seahawks/Pittsburg vote.:surprised

Yeah, even as a Steelhead, I wasn't expecting THAT...... :confused:

[spiderman9797]

And San Diego is rattling Denver, too.

Looks like my changes were well-timed.

My fantasy luck is horrible, though. Absolutely horrible. The last 3 Quarterbacks that I have started have gotten hurt and pulled in the same game.:disappoin

[spiderman9797]

9-3 so far this week. Could this be a good week for me?:surprised

[Bubblehead]

What a piece of junk Hasselbeck played. He had all sorts of pocket protection and he couldn't make a play to save his life. I literally was screaming at the TV...."RUN THE BALL, MATT!" The Steelers gave him all sorts of room to run and he just tried to make a pass. Ugh.

I'm so disappointed to be a Seahawks fan right now. Losing is one thing. Losing like that......is utter BS. And unacceptable. The D did an admirable job and held up for 3 quarters. But they were just in waaaaaay too long.

Give it to the Steelers. Good game plan and they played their way of football.

I'd give Hasselbeck a junk shot (and Alexander, too) for playing like #*$&.

[BudPalmer]

I'd give Hasselbeck a junk shot (and Alexander, too) for playing like #*$&.

If that ever happens, please promise me you'll videotape it. I so want to see what they do to you. :laugh:

[Thawmus]

What a piece of junk Hasselbeck played. He had all sorts of pocket protection and he couldn't make a play to save his life. I literally was screaming at the TV...."RUN THE BALL, MATT!" The Steelers gave him all sorts of room to run and he just tried to make a pass. Ugh.

I'm so disappointed to be a Seahawks fan right now. Losing is one thing. Losing like that......is utter BS. And unacceptable. The D did an admirable job and held up for 3 quarters. But they were just in waaaaaay too long.

Give it to the Steelers. Good game plan and they played their way of football.

I'd give Hasselbeck a junk shot (and Alexander, too) for playing like #*$&.

In Alexander's defense, that cracked wrist is going to slow him down WAY more than he or his team wanted to believe. They had no business making him the starter yesterday. He had "Fumble" written all over him. That's why they never handed it off.

Hasselbeck isn't Michael Vick, either. He might have gotten a first down or two by scrambling with the ball, because he IS pretty fast, but I'm not sure that would have gotten anything on the scoreboard.

I've NEVER seen the Steelers' secondary play that well before. They usually blitz because their secondary is the weak point of their defense.....but they sent 3 or 4 all game. Maybe LeBeau is only doing this when Polamalu and Hampton are out? I dunno. Hope he does it again after the bye week.

[NeoShazam]

Sitting at 9-4 this week and a Cowboy win makes me 10-4.

[supermangl1]

Junk! I forgot to pick a winner in the Bears v. Packers and Baltimore v. 49ers.

Right now I'm 7-4, with a 8-4 if the Cowboys win.

[Bubblehead]

If that ever happens, please promise me you'll videotape it. I so want to see what they do to you. :laugh:

And by saying this, I'm using a metaphor. Silly!

I actually want to go to Seahawks home games.

As for Alexander playing, I agree. Bench the guy if he's not running well. Let Morris run the ball. He's more power than finesse and that could actually play well into changing up the tempo of the game.

Oh well. Got blown out by the Bears last year and things turned out ok.

[Thawmus]

I'm pretty sure I only got 2 or 3 right, so I'm not going to bother counting. Seriously, I was way off.

[spiderman9797]

Even if Dallas does win this game by 20 or more points, I will still be very impressed by Marshawn Lynch and Trent Edwards. For a rookie in his second start (Trent Edwards), the guy is doing phenomenal. I didn't even know who Lynch was whenever they drafted him, but he looks to be a really good draft pick as the guy just runs hard and has exceptional speed and quickness. Good receiver, too.

[supermangl1]

I don't know if it will last but Dallas is losing to Buffalo, and Romo has thrown 4 interceptions. FOUR! In the first half! Guess it goes to show you yet again, better show up to play everyday in the NFL. Wondering how this is going to end!

[KitsuShel]

Monday
Dallas vs. Buffalo 44 points total

9-5, not too bad. Soooo close on the points, though!

Think I'm at 45-30

[NeoShazam]

10-4 for the week, 11 points off the correct score...but I'd so trade that win for a loss to see the Buffalo Bills win, what great fans.

[supermangl1]

8-4 this week. Probably would have been 8-6 if I remember to pick the other two games. Wasn't too far off on points though.

[BudPalmer]

Miami at Houston -L-
Atlanta at Tennessee -W-
Jacksonville at Kansas City -W-
NY Jets at NY Giants -W-
Carolina at New Orleans -W-
Arizona at St. Louis Rams -W-
Cleveland at New England -W-
Seattle at Pittsburgh -W-
Detroit at Washington -L- (I think they're the Lions again)
Tampa Bay at Indianapolis -W-
San Diego at Denver -L- I miss Denver already
Baltimore at San Francisco -W-
Chicago at Green Bay -L-

Dallas at Buffalo - 41 pts -W-

10-4!! BACK ON TRACK!

44-31 on the year.

[Psylockeslover]

10-4 on the week, and 50-26 overall. And only 4 points off the MNF total. Course, the actual score was way off from what I imagined!

Anyway, feels good to be back on track after last weeks debacle!

[Shadow40]

9-5 for the week. 42-33 for the season.

[lensnart]

I totally forgot to play last week, and I was doing pretty well before that.

[spiderman9797]

Finally, a good week. 10-4 this week.

sniksder, I hope you're keeping track because I'm sure not.

[tyroclix]

Week 5 recap:

Atlanta vs. Tennessee :cool:
Jacksonville vs. Kansas City:cool:
Arizona vs. St. Louis:cry:
Cleveland vs. New England:cool:
Carolina vs. New Orleans They're due. They're due!!!:cry:
NY Jets vs. NY Giants:cool:
Seattle vs. Pittsburgh:cry:
Detroit vs. Washington:cry:
Miami vs. Houston:cry: :cry:
Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis:cool:
San Diego vs. Denver:cry:
Baltimore vs. San Francisco:cool:
Chicago vs. Green Bay:cry: (figures, first time I pick them...)

Monday Night Game

Dallas vs. Buffalo 27 points :cool:

7-7 the way I read it. I think that's 32 points for me.

[Bubblehead]

10-4 for Week 5. And I took some chances, too! Just think if I'd have actually voted for some of the logical picks. :noid:

29-15 overall. Not terrible. Not great.


Doing fine, doing fine, doing fine.......:p

[stark's heir]

I kept forgetting to throw this link in for those who may be interested...

http://www.the506.com/

Just click on the NFL/TV Broadcast Maps...
This guy lists all the markets in the country (usually by Wed) for the upcoming games. Folks can see where their favorite team will be playing on local or national TV. Basically the entire country, except for CA, are gonna be watching the Dallas/NE game whether they want to or not...
Enjoy!

[BudPalmer]

10-4 on the week, and 50-26 overall. And only 4 points off the MNF total. Course, the actual score was way off from what I imagined!

Anyway, feels good to be back on track after last weeks debacle!


How come you got one more game than everyone else?

[spiderman9797]

My picks for this week

St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay (Believe it or not)
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle


New York (Giants) at Atlanta 37 points

[supermangl1]

Let's see what we have this week!

Minnesota v. Chicago
Miami v. Cleveland (has to happen sometime)
Washington v. Green Bay (shut down the Lions, will shut down Favre)
Cincinnati v. Kansas City
Tennessee v. Tampa Bay (the defensive battle, Young gets back on track)
St. Louis v. Baltimore (poor Rams)
Houston v. Jacksonville (Jacksonville, while possibly the most boring team ever, they win)
Philadelphia v. Jets (Jets stink...again)
Carolina v. Arizona (Carr all year long? Steve Smith is weeping somewhere)
Oakland v. San Deigo (my upset of the week, catches Chargers sleeping)
New England v. Dallas
New Orleans v. Seattle (not this week New Orleans...)

MNF: Giants v. Atlanta Point Total: 30

[Psylockeslover]

How come you got one more game than everyone else?

First of all: Damn you for making me go back and look through this whole thread.


Second, after a recount, I am actually 48-27 over all:

Week 1: 13-2 (we missed the Indy NO game, so only 15)
Week 2: 11-5
Week 3: 8-8
Week 4: 6-8
Week 5: 10-4

OK, so I have no idea where the extra game came from........

As for this week:

My picks for this week

St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle


New York (Giants) at Atlanta 30 points

[NeoShazam]

Week 6

St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle
Monday Night
New York Giants at Atlanta 38 points

[BudPalmer]

First of all: Damn you for making me go back and look through this whole thread.


Second, after a recount, I am actually 48-27 over all:

Week 1: 13-2 (we missed the Indy NO game, so only 15)
Week 2: 11-5
Week 3: 8-8
Week 4: 6-8
Week 5: 10-4

OK, so I have no idea where the extra game came from........

Dirty cheat! ;) :laugh:

My picks:
St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle
Monday Night
New York Giants at Atlanta - 29 points

[Thawmus]

St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle
Monday Night
New York Giants at Atlanta -43 points overall.

[Thawmus]

And, my professional analysis.... :rolleyes:

St. Louis at Baltimore - Baltimore needs to keep winning games, and start getting something done in the red zone, but St. Louis is going to be in trouble all season. This should be an easy win for Baltimore, but the final score will probably be 12-6.

Minnesota at Chicago - One of these teams has a balanced offense now. The other, sadly, does not.

Miami at Cleveland - Miami sucks hard. And Cleveland put up more resistance to the Pats than anyone else has this season. They're going to cream the Dolphins.

Washington at Green Bay - I really think Green Bay is the superior team, but their coach needs to start modifying his gameplan, based on the scoreboard. If you're up by 24 points at the half, hand the ball to Wynn, please.... :rolleyes:

Washington, on the other hand, is finding some great rhythm.

Houston at Jacksonville - Houston's been a contender at the start, but you can't depend completely on Shaub to get games won for you. This team has no running ability at all, and Shaub has nobody to throw to at all. Their defense is definitely one of the better ones, considering how long they're on the field each game. Jacksonville, however, has a very balanced offense, and Gerrard is looking better every game.

Cincinnati at Kansas City - In the blind hope that the Chiefs decide to use some smart playcalling on offense.

Philadelphia at New York (Jets) - I have a feeling that this might look like the Philly vs. Detroit game....

Tennessee at Tampa Bay - Vince Young needs to be a little less of a ball hog. I know he doesn't have anyone to throw to, but that's all the more reason to not put him in a position to throw 3 picks. Tampa Bay feels like a wounded animal now. This should be one of the better games this weekend.

Carolina at Arizona - If Arizona keeps playing the way they've been playing, they should walk all over Carolina. And Kurt will hopefully be able to focus more, now that Musical QB's is no longer a viable option.

New England at Dallas - New England is a superior football team. And they're going to be ready for this game. Dallas obviously has been looking ahead to this game for awhile (Exhibit A: this week's MNF result), but cmon now, this is New England.

Oakland at San Diego - Oakland is another team nobody is talking about, and San Diego has not convinced me yet. Plus, they haven't fired Turner....look for another big day for Culpepper, folks.

New Orleans at Seattle - They have to win eventually, and Seattle is severely wounded now in their running game.

Monday Night
New York Giants at Atlanta -43 points overall. - Will Harrington's touchdown passes to the opposing defense, match his offensive touchdowns? Find out on MNF!!!! :laugh:

[supermangl1]

Vince isn't a ball hog, in fact I wish he would friggin' run with the ball more! He's trying to not be a Running QB so he's just chucking the ball into coverage. He's at his best when he runs and makes plays. He's just not a great pocket passer yet, and no we have no receivers. Moulds has been good, but Brandon Jones has dropped two in the End Zone and one WIDE OPEN against the Colts which would have given us a first down and a easy range Field Goal for Bironas. And he's our #2 guy!

Hoping for we trade Pacman Jones away for some decent receiver(s) or a draft pick to get a solid #1 guy, because we have NO deep threat. But I do agree the Titans v. Bucs game should be a blast.

[Thawmus]

Vince isn't a ball hog, in fact I wish he would friggin' run with the ball more! He's trying to not be a Running QB so he's just chucking the ball into coverage. He's at his best when he runs and makes plays. He's just not a great pocket passer yet, and no we have no receivers. Moulds has been good, but Brandon Jones has dropped two in the End Zone and one WIDE OPEN against the Colts which would have given us a first down and a easy range Field Goal for Bironas. And he's our #2 guy!

Hoping for we trade Pacman Jones away for some decent receiver(s) or a draft pick to get a solid #1 guy, because we have NO deep threat. But I do agree the Titans v. Bucs game should be a blast.

I guess I feel differently, though I should say, his hogging the ball is more of a coaching error, than it is his ego. He's a great pocket passer, in my eyes, it's just that he has nobody to throw to. They need to do the same thing Pittsburgh needs to do: Draft a 6'5" WR that has hands.

[Bubblehead]

My picks du jour!


St. Louis at Baltimore This could go either way. I want to say St.
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona This pains me to pick them.
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle Seattle is just a different team at home.


New York (Giants) at Atlanta 31

[stark's heir]

Okay...
Baltimore v. St Louis
Minnesota v. Chicago
Miami v. Cleveland
Washington v. Green Bay
Cincinnati v. Kansas City
Tennessee v. Tampa Bay
St. Louis v. Baltimore
Houston v. Jacksonville
Philadelphia v. Jets
Carolina v. Arizona
Oakland v. San Diego
New England v. Dallas
New Orleans v. Seattle

MNF: Giants v. Atlanta Point Total: 40

Wake me next Sunday...

EDIT: picking the Balt/Rams game

[Shadow40]

Minnesota vs. Chicago
Miami vs. Cleveland
Washington vs. Green Bay
Cincinnati vs. Kansas City
Philadelpia vs. New York Jets
Tennessee vs. Tampa Bay
Houston vs. Jacksonville
St. Louis vs. Baltimore
Carolina vs. Arizona
New England vs. Dallas
Oakland vs. San Diego
New Orleans vs. Seattle


Monday Night Game

New York Giants vs. Atlanta 35 total points

[supermangl1]

Outside the New England v. Dallas game, which I don't think will be as good as everyone hopes, this is a pretty boring week. I love the weeks where I can watch the Titans then flip the channel to get the Steelers...little slice of joy.

St. Louis v Baltimore is my most boring game of the week pick! Just thinking about it feels like a thumb in the eye.

[Antipathy]

St. Louis vs. Baltimore
Minnesota vs. Chicago
Miami vs. Cleveland
Washington vs. Green Bay
Cincinnati vs. Kansas City
Philadelpia vs. New York Jets
Tennessee vs. Tampa Bay
Houston vs. Jacksonville
St. Louis vs. Baltimore
Carolina vs. Arizona
New England vs. Dallas
Oakland vs. San Diego
New Orleans vs. Seattle


Monday Night Game

New York Giants vs. Atlanta 27 total points

Edit: forgot to put it the Baltimore vs. St. Louis game.

[tyroclix]

Week 6:

St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland (I'm gonna pick 'em till they win!
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle


New York (Giants) at Atlanta 27 points

[DOOMBOTSKI]

St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle


New York (Giants) at Atlanta 33 points

[KitsuShel]

St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle

Monday Night
New York Giants at Atlanta ~ 37

[sniksder]

St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennesseeat Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle

Monday Night
New York Giants at Atlanta ~45

[DocDoom187]

St. Louis at Baltimore
Minnesota at Chicago
Miami at Cleveland
Washington at Green Bay
Houston at Jacksonville
Cincinnati at Kansas City
Philadelphia at New York (Jets)
Tennessee at Tampa Bay
Carolina at Arizona
New England at Dallas
Oakland at San Diego
New Orleans at Seattle

Monday Night
New York Giants at Atlanta

[spiderman9797]

New Orleans at Seattle Seattle is just a different team at home.
Yup, they're the home team.

But still the losing team.:cool:

And Drew Brees comes out and plays like the 2006 Drew Brees!:)

[supermangl1]

Right now 4-8...ugh.

So picked the wrong upsets, NO beat the tar out of Seattle at home. Washington, Tennessee, and Arizona probably should have won but that what happens when you fumble in the Red Zone, bring in Kerry Collins, and Tim Rattay respectively.

But Seattle??? At home??? By the Saints??? Those were some of the worst play calls I've seen in awhile. And I don't want to down a good guy like Alexander, but he reminds me of another really good guy who after an injury lost something: Eddie George. Seems clear Alexander like George was, is winding down in his career but he won't see it. It will be rough because he'll want to be the man till he retires but if I was Seattle I would be thinking RB in the draft. He's lost a step. It might be just me, but he looks a far cry from 2005.

[Thawmus]

Right now 4-8...ugh.

So picked the wrong upsets, NO beat the tar out of Seattle at home. Washington, Tennessee, and Arizona probably should have won but that what happens when you fumble in the Red Zone, bring in Kerry Collins, and Tim Rattay respectively.

But Seattle??? At home??? By the Saints??? Those were some of the worst play calls I've seen in awhile. And I don't want to down a good guy like Alexander, but he reminds me of another really good guy who after an injury lost something: Eddie George. Seems clear Alexander like George was, is winding down in his career but he won't see it. It will be rough because he'll want to be the man till he retires but if I was Seattle I would be thinking RB in the draft. He's lost a step. It might be just me, but he looks a far cry from 2005.

I really don't think he's lost a step. I think the Seattle O-line has lost a step, and not having his all-pro fullback doing lead blocks isn't great, either.

I mean, New Orleans busted through the MIDDLE of the O-line more times in that game than I care to count. That shouldn't happen. EVER.

[Bubblehead]

First and foremost, congrats to the Saints. They won. Seattle lost. Badly.

Seattle is a bad team. Above all, you know what I saw last night????


No heart. No toughness. And Hasselbeck playing high school ball trying to make up for Alexander's ineptitude. Granted 2 of his top 3 receivers are out with injuries but that shouldn't affect the way you play. Yet here is Hasselbeck being described by the announce team as "fretful". You should never have fretful as a description of your all pro QB. EVER!!!!!

I think you guys are right in saying that Alexander will never be back. And is it wrong that I keep hoping they give new fullback Leonard Weaver the ball alot more. Him and Morris are the future, right now.

I watched Reggie Bush just turn on the turbo juice and blast past the Seattle D on sweep runs. He looked fast and fresh. Alexander , in comparison, looked old and used up.

I'm so glad I didn't fly up there for that game. I'd have been boo-ing with the crowd and rightfully so.

Once again, congrats to the Saints. Until Seattle finds their heart, I'm just going to assume a loss (not next week, it's the Rams and even I think the Seahawks are better than them.)

[stark's heir]

Holy $#!* 11-2 so far...

[spiderman9797]

To be fair to Alexander, if there was one positive thing to say about the Saints in their first 4 games it's that they had a very solid rush defense. Joseph Adai is the only back that managed to run effectively against us. Williams in Tampa wasn't getting more than 2.5 yards a carry. Brown and White did a little better, but they weren't doing much on the ground either. DeAngello Williams certainly couldn't run against us. Granted, I think Alexander is better than all of those guys (or at least he used to be), but that has been the strong point of the Saints.

And to be honest, I think the Saints are quickly getting back into rythm. Drew was throwing beautifully, he had great protection, and Reggie Bush was proving all of those who said that he can't run up the middle wrong. Now if only Devery Henderson could catch close to as well as Lance Moore or Marques Colston...:cheeky:

Seattle's loss to a 0-4 (now 1-4) team is disguised, to me. The '06 Saints are almost back in full swing, which was a very tough team to beat last year, and Seattle had a few key players out.

On a more specific note, I understand that Matt wants to make a play, but PLEASE just don't lob the ball up when you really need a 3rd down badly just to give Josh Bullocks the easiest interception that he will ever get. Matt should know better than that.