NFL The OFFICIAL Dallas Cowboys Thread [Archive]

machineman

09/30/2007, 21:41

Good thing I looked good before starting another thread.
Who's looking forward to that big Cowboy/New England match-up in a couple of weeks? I think it will be a really good test for Romo and the boys, or more importantly, Roy and the boys as this will be a true challenge for the DB's and the defensive line too. I'll admit, I'm slow to fall into the Romo-believer camp, but how can you not love this kid??!! He's so positive, when he could've become so negative over his play-off boners in his last game of last year. And who would have thought that the 'Boys would flourish this big, this early, especially under Wade Phillips?

Go Cowboys! We're still here.

DocDoom187

09/30/2007, 22:01

You are all Flaming Romos. Thats right I went there.

Persoanlly, I'm a little Romophobic :p

I'm trying to coin the words.

Flaming Romo=Cowboy Fan

Romophobe=Not cowboy Fan

:laugh:

spiderman9797

09/30/2007, 22:21

I believe that the Cowboys will go undefeated until they meet the Patriots. At that point, I will just start to feel very bad for those poor guys.

They think they've met a good team? Oh, no they haven't. Not until they play the Patriots.

Thawmus

09/30/2007, 22:22

turdburglar47

09/30/2007, 22:29

I grew up a Cowboys fan, although I'm less so with Terrell Owens around.

That said, in response to Thawmus' post, I hate the 49ers with a passion. When they struggle, I laugh. I want them to never win a game for the next 50 years. LOSE ALWAYS, 49ERS!

Also, though, I tend to root for teams who have never won Super Bowls. Like the Saints, the Cardinals, the Browns, the Bengals... and they all must win one before the Titans, Texans and expansions du jour win them.

DocDoom187

09/30/2007, 22:30

spiderman9797

09/30/2007, 22:42

As a Steelers fan, I obviously can't help but hate the Cowboys with a passion. Although, when they struggle, I want them to win. I hate them to death, but I want them to be great enough for me to continue hating them.

Thankfully, the Cowboys have done that this year.

I'm not a fan of Romo either, but I can't deny that the guy has talent. He could very well end up being one of the greats, but we'll see if he can continue his success, and not succumb to being a Grossman.
I seriously doubt that he will be "one of the greats". I very, very seriously doubt it. He's good, no doubt. But he isn't Peyton Manning/Tom Brady good.

That said, I always have something in me that wants Tony Romo to do horribly, just because everyone seemed to have Christened him last year as the Holy One. Of course, the downfall of Tony Romo started with the Saints trashing them in their house:cool: and ended with Tony losing their playoff game to the Seahawks.

Now, did he bounce back? Undoubtedly. Do I think he is better than Carson Palmer, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and even Vince Young? Not quite. If you gave Drew Brees or Marc Bulger that team and told them to beat those opponents, they certainly would. But right now, neither of them can get any blocking whatsoever.

Bubblehead

09/30/2007, 22:42

OOH! OOH!!!

Can I jump on the Cowboys bandwagon, too?????

:rolleyes:

Seriously, I believe Ro-gan said it best.....

As long as Romo keeps his head up Carrie Underwood's keister, there will be no post-season wins in Dallas.

His words, not mine.

And he's a die-hard Cowboys fan.

Just saying....

machineman

09/30/2007, 22:44

Romophobe= afraid for his favorite team to face the 'Boys :P

machineman

09/30/2007, 22:48

Been a Cowboy's fan for 30+ years, so not so much a bandwagonner here. All Cowboys fans know that Romo+Underwood standing anywhere near him=fumbled-snap-and-not-able-to-get-easy-T.D.-upon-recovery. If they were to get married in the stadium, the Cowboy's would have to immediately move into the unfinished mega-conglom-plex to get away from the tainted turf.

Jackofhearts2005

09/30/2007, 22:55

Jackofhearts2005

09/30/2007, 22:58

I seriously doubt that he will be "one of the greats". I very, very seriously doubt it. He's good, no doubt. But he isn't Peyton Manning/Tom Brady good.

For his first season? He's better.

Also, his coach doesn't feel the need to cheat just to beat the Jets. :cheeky:

Also, his team has beaten the teams of both Mannings (though one of them in the preseason) this year.

OOH! OOH!!!

Can I jump on the Cowboys bandwagon, too?????

Don't even give me that. Dallas Cowboys fan since I was 4 years old, thank you much. :grin:

spiderman9797

09/30/2007, 23:04

For his first season? He's better.

Also, his coach doesn't feel the need to cheat just to beat the Jets. :cheeky:

Also, his team has beaten the teams of both Mannings (though one of them in the preseason) this year.
And I truly don't believe he was that good last year. I believe he was the king of overrated players last year.

That, and he isn't nor will he ever be as good as Peyton or Tom Brady (it's the tiniest chance ever). If he does, congrats to him. But I have serious doubts that he ever will.

Jackofhearts2005

10/01/2007, 02:01

And I truly don't believe he was that good last year. I believe he was the king of overrated players last year.

That, and he isn't nor will he ever be as good as Peyton or Tom Brady (it's the tiniest chance ever). If he does, congrats to him. But I have serious doubts that he ever will.
Well you can think that all you want, but Romo already has a better QB rating (despite having what most people consider inferior recievers) than Manning and Tom Brady's team cheats. :cool:

Overrated or not, Romo is the QB for the team with the best record in the league, so go take that hate somewhere else, Spizzie. :p

malakim2099

10/01/2007, 10:11

Also, his team has beaten the teams of both Mannings (though one of them in the preseason) this year.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Dude, don't even bring the preseason into this. Just sayin'...

Though I'll admit, having Romo AND Peyton on my fantasy league team at work makes it rather interesting.

Thawmus

10/01/2007, 11:03

Well you can think that all you want, but Romo already has a better QB rating (despite having what most people consider inferior recievers) than Manning and Tom Brady's team cheats. :cool:

Overrated or not, Romo is the QB for the team with the best record in the league, so go take that hate somewhere else, Spizzie. :p

Since when did he have inferior receivers????

####, half of the QB's in the league would give their salary to be able to throw to Owens, Glenn, and Crayton.

And I might point out that the Packers have the same record as the Cowboys right now. And they've played far better teams already.

All that being said, I'd be happy to see the Cowboys win a super bowl again. They've become the "almost, but not quite" poster child for quite a while now.

spiderman9797

10/01/2007, 16:08

Overrated or not, Romo is the QB for the team with the best record in the league, so go take that hate somewhere else, Spizzie. :p
For one of the teams with the best records, which would be 4-0.

I guess we'll see Week 6, when the Pats eat Dallas for dinner.

Jackofhearts2005

10/03/2007, 00:38

Since when did he have inferior receivers????

####, half of the QB's in the league would give their salary to be able to throw to Owens, Glenn, and Crayton.

And I might point out that the Packers have the same record as the Cowboys right now. And they've played far better teams already.

All that being said, I'd be happy to see the Cowboys win a super bowl again. They've become the "almost, but not quite" poster child for quite a while now.
Don't get me wrong, I think Glenn, Crayton, and Owens are all great recievers, but 99% of non Cowboy fans I talk to think all three are overrated.

Oh, and I'm glad to see the Packers doing well this season, too. :)

I hope the Patriots start doing poorly because
a) I hate the Patriots and
b) Maybe just maybe there will be a chance to have a Pittsburg vs Dallas Superbowl. No, the odds aren't likely, but that would be ideal.

Thawmus

10/03/2007, 08:47

Don't get me wrong, I think Glenn, Crayton, and Owens are all great recievers, but 99% of non Cowboy fans I talk to think all three are overrated.

Oh, and I'm glad to see the Packers doing well this season, too. :)

I hope the Patriots start doing poorly because
a) I hate the Patriots and
b) Maybe just maybe there will be a chance to have a Pittsburg vs Dallas Superbowl. No, the odds aren't likely, but that would be ideal.

Agreed, the clash of the dynasties would be fun to watch again.

machineman

10/03/2007, 21:01

Well, I'm not sure the sports world(read: the Steelers) is ready for that match-up in another Super Bowl at this time. The Cowboys are almost there, personnel and personality-wise, they need a better defensive identity, which Phillips seems to be working on. But Pittsburgh needs a little work, i think, in both areas of identity.
This year I'd love to see a Dallas vs Indy match-up, hopefully restoring Dallas' dynastic i.d. by first defeating Green Bay in a classic New-kid-does-well vs. America's-iron-horse-blue-collar hero in the NFC championship, then the current media-darling Colts. I'd also like to see how Manning would bounce back from a Super Bowl defeat, although, up until last year, he's had to deal with big losses since his college carrer, and he's always done it well. I'd also like to see how Romo handles great success. All the while, allowing Pittsburgh, with Big Ben, to develop back into their dynastic role, setting up what would be a match-up to rival those of the seventies, Dallas vs Pittsburgh, for the championship of the world!
Wouldn't that be much better than some random Super Bowl between the two, destined to end up as only a footnote in either of their storied histories?

machineman

10/09/2007, 01:15

Ok after that Monday night in Buffalo, my concerns with Romo are proven. I'm still high on the kid, just alot more weary than any of the Cowboy fans I've spoken to all year. But to turn the ball over personally 6 times in one game and come back to win it, will do nothing but help build Romo's character and give him what I see as much-needed adverse experience, to help shape him into one of the better quarterbacks out there. I think this win might be one of the most important games of his young career to date. Granted, alot of things had to come together at the end to pull this win out, but that is also a great part of what he can take away from the game as a learning experience.
Five and 0 is a really good place to be, especially after this Monday Night Debacle.

turdburglar47

10/09/2007, 01:27

Is Terrell Owens suddenly NOT a giant prickolini who spiked the ball on the star at midfield anymore?

I can't really root for the Boys until he's gone.

NeoShazam

10/09/2007, 01:54

Romo is good, I soo wanted the Cowboys to lose that game though.
I'm rooting for New England to pound them now.

Jackofhearts2005

10/09/2007, 02:40

Tony, Tony. Why do you have to go and scare us like this? :rolleyes:

machineman

10/09/2007, 03:06

Is Terrell Owens suddenly NOT a giant prickolini who spiked the ball on the star at midfield anymore?

I can't really root for the Boys until he's gone.

Well, dropping the 2-point conversion, and then dropping the pass down on the 25 yd line or so, to give us the initial FG position would, in my book, still classify him as a "giant prikolini", so there you go...

St. Cuthbert

10/12/2007, 07:45

Romo is good, I soo wanted the Cowboys to lose that game though.
I'm rooting for New England to pound them now.

I'm REALLY excited for this game. I'm a big New England fan, and I think this is going to be one of the best games of the season, regardless of who wins or loses. My only regret is that I won't be able to watch it live.

NeoShazam

10/15/2007, 13:29

I'm REALLY excited for this game. I'm a big New England fan, and I think this is going to be one of the best games of the season, regardless of who wins or loses. My only regret is that I won't be able to watch it live.

I watched the end and was able to DVR it so I can watch it today.
Particularly interesting was the mood of Tony Romo after the loss while
talking to the press, totally deflated.

spiderman9797

10/15/2007, 19:18

I'm not surprised at all by the outcome. Dallas is pretty good. New England has potential to be one of the best ever. I called it; Dallas would go undefeated until they meet New England.

IF Indy goes undefeated, they will lose to New England, too. But I feel an upset against Jacksonville this week.

machineman

10/16/2007, 00:25

I don't think NE, or anybody else for that matter, will go undefeated. NE is playing better than anybody else right now, but Indy seems to just get stronger as they go. After 8-0, most teams begin feeling the pressure too much, but we will see. Indy could beat NE and vice versa. Dallas could beat NE too, just not this week. Right now it looks like NE/Indy and GB/Dallas for the title match in each conference, but that could change, as it usually does right after week 8 or 9.

RCricket55

10/19/2007, 16:42

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/extramustard/10/18/hotclicks.1018/index.html

read the caption. Romo apparently never dated Underwood, because he wanted to concentrate on football. I am glad I wasn't any good at football:p

Gambit

10/19/2007, 22:23

The 'Boys we'll get their revenge in the rematch they'll have later this year. That unnecessary touchdown will only add more fuel to the fire.

NeoShazam

12/17/2007, 19:43

Romo had a injured hand, the Cowboys had an injured center, and Jessica Simpson might be a curse.

How bout them Cowboys ?

After last night's game, and Green Bay discovering a running game, I'm seeing Packers in the Super Bowl.

turdburglar47

12/17/2007, 19:45

It makes me sad to watch a Cowboys game, I've discovered. Because I can't in good conscience cheer for Terrell Owens.

Gentlegamer

12/18/2007, 11:09

Ro-gan, if you're reading this, I called this past game when I saw Jessica Simpson in the stands: Romo can't handle!

I won't type here the jokes I came up with how Romo really hurt his thumb . . .

Darkseid Sr.

12/18/2007, 11:13

Ro-gan, if you're reading this, I called this past game when I saw Jessica Simpson in the stands: Romo can't handle!

I won't type here the jokes I came up with how Romo really hurt his thumb . . .

Once they showed Simpson up in the stands, we were screwed.

machineman

12/18/2007, 17:56

Ah, the old Romo-can't-handle-it-with-his-hot-chickie-watchin-him syndrome. Cowboys are still Super Bowl bound, don't kid yourselves.

Gambit

12/18/2007, 18:46

Romo has never faired well against the Eagles and I knew Simpson would follow in the footsteps of Underwood.

Devil thy name is woman!...lol.

NeoShazam

12/22/2007, 23:39

Cowboys get a lot of help from Refs tonight.

It was the kind of game where I want to turn it off because the calls tainted the game. TO gets hurt, a few other key Cowboy players get hurt, Steve Smith gets hurt.

Gambit

12/23/2007, 14:00

Just hand the ball off to MBIII and they'll be in good shape to wrap things up in Washington, barring a Bears upset against the Pack.

spiderman9797

12/23/2007, 15:35

I wish they would have been giving it to Marion Barber that much the entire season. My fantasy team would have been a lot better off right now.

I don't even understand at all why Julius Jones is the starter. I guess if they just want to keep Marion Barber fresh until late in the game, but I would still have Marion the starter either way.

Gambit

12/23/2007, 16:35

The road to Arizona goes through DALLAS! Woot! The Green Bay Choke Job makes it so that next weeks game against Washington is a Preseason game where the stats count.

See you Jan 12th or 13th T.O.!

CrusaderC

12/28/2007, 12:17

Doubtful they'll play starters this week, which bodes well for the 'skins!

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

machineman

12/28/2007, 19:36

They better not be playing the starters, at least not for long. The back-ups really need to get some P.T. before the playoffs, especially at Q.B. Losing Romo now, for even one game, would spell disaster. And the defensive line and L.B.'s really need to get rest, losing those guys would be as bad as losing Romo and T.O. And Marion the Barbarian has done an excellent job this (and last) year. I think he plays so well in his role. I'm not so sure he should be the starting back, it would change his dynamic too much, I think. On the other hand, Julius Jones has got to go. He isn't the worst back in football, but he is among the worst starting T.B.'s in the NFL. We need a better finesse back to go along with Barber, but Barber doesn't need to carry the load on his own. Get 'em Cowboys!! WOOT!! Hopefully it will be a Dallas vs. Indianapolis Super Bowl, I really hate the Pats(although they really deserve to get to the big game).

Gambit

12/28/2007, 20:53

Well, here is the injury report:

OUT: C Andre Gurode* (Knee), CB Terence Newman* (Knee), WR Terrell Owens*** (Ankle), NT Jay Ratliff* (Knee), S Patrick Watkins** (Ankle)

Wade is playing it smart keeping T-Newm Jay, and Andre to heal for another two weeks so the will be ready to go. And hopefully Pat and T.O. will be well enough to go in the playoffs.

sniksder

12/29/2007, 07:15

Doubtful they'll play starters this week, which bodes well for the 'skins!

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Even if they did play their starters, Skins would still win :)

The first game was close, with Campbell still learing the offense and making rookie mistakes it came down to the end of the game.

Now with Collins at QB and knowing this system we should be in good shape.

The NFC is a weak confernece overall, there is no guarentee that the Cowgirls will make the Superbowl, they have not won a playoff game in what 12-13 years :laugh:

HTTR!!!

Jackofhearts2005

12/29/2007, 07:19

Even if they did play their starters, Skins would still win :)

The first game was close, with Campbell still learing the offense and making rookie mistakes it came down to the end of the game.

Now with Collins at QB and knowing this system we should be in good shape.

The NFC is a weak confernece overall, there is no guarentee that the Cowgirls will make the Superbowl, they have not won a playoff game in what 12-13 years :laugh:

HTTR!!!
Big words from the team that's third in the division. ;)

sniksder

12/29/2007, 12:06

Big words from the team that's third in the division. ;)

Oh well, if they win they are in the playoffs, and that's all that matters :)

Gambit

12/29/2007, 17:24

Oh well, if they win they are in the playoffs, and that's all that matters :)

I'm betting Brad beats the Redskins like he did last year when he was with the Vikings, only this time he has a better group around him now then he did then.

Gentlegamer

12/30/2007, 00:15

Even if they did play their starters, Skins would still win :)

The first game was close, with Campbell still learing the offense and making rookie mistakes it came down to the end of the game.

Now with Collins at QB and knowing this system we should be in good shape.

The NFC is a weak confernece overall, there is no guarentee that the Cowgirls will make the Superbowl, they have not won a playoff game in what 12-13 years :laugh:

HTTR!!!And yet, the Cowboys are still the last NFC East team to win a Superbowl.

machineman

01/04/2008, 23:12

The skins should make it through the first round, but that's probably as far as they will go. Cowboys should be healed enough to make a SuperBowl appearance again this year. I'm not gonna say they are the greatest team, but they tore through their schedule fairly good this year. These Cowboys are very good, they just don't have good sync down the depth chart. I would love to see another dynasty, especially during these salary cap years, but I'll settle for a very good team like we have right now.

machineman

01/06/2008, 20:43

Well, the skins didn't make it through the first round. Good. Now we have to try and beat the Giants for the third time this season. I hope T.O. is ready, and happy. The Cowboys need to forget those past couple of games and go back to having fun. They play much better when they're having fun. Maybe they just have more fun when they play better, who knows? I hope Jessica is there so everybody can get over the g/f jinx factor for Romo when they knock off the Giants, plus they are always showing her on cam, so that makes me happy too.--- ;)
Anyway, with the bye week(might as well call it 2 bye weeks because the Washington game was a bye for us too) hopefully they've healed, rested, and regained focus and are ready to put on a display. I'd hate to get put out by a team we owned all year.

spiderman9797

01/07/2008, 00:25

hopefully they've healed, rested, and regained focus and are ready to put on a display. I'd hate to get put out by a team we owned all year.
First, I don't think that the Cowboys "owned" the Giants at all this year. Each game was fairly close, by my memory.

And that's what I don't like about the Cowboys. Instead of saying "ready to win" they think "ready to put on a display". It's like the whole team and their fans have taken on the attitude of T.O.

machineman

01/07/2008, 01:38

First, I don't think that the Cowboys "owned" the Giants at all this year. Each game was fairly close, by my memory.

And that's what I don't like about the Cowboys. Instead of saying "ready to win" they think "ready to put on a display". It's like the whole team and their fans have taken on the attitude of T.O.

Why, yes, I believe you are correct. Except that the Cowboys owned the Giants this year. I'm talking pre-internet-pwnage-b.s.-leet. I'm talking old-school-smack-ownage. (yes the games weren't run-aways for sure, but the Cowboys won them both, so they "own" the bragging rights until the Giants beat them). And I can't really say that T.O. put on any "attitude" displays this year that were comparable to his recent past. For T.O., he's been fairly subdued. But remember to take anything I type with a grain of salt, I'm just trying to get hyped for this weekend. "Obnoxious" and "Cowboy fan" go hand-in-hand, at least that's what they've been telling me since 1972 or so.

NeoShazam

01/07/2008, 01:57

machineman

01/07/2008, 02:12

Yeah, the scores might have been close but there was no serious danger of a loss.

That being said,.........the Giants fight off the hat trick.

I think not!! I believe Marion the Barbarian will run amuk, pounding the giants secondary, while Romo gets it to Jason Witten to pound them some more, then finesses a few to T.O., Creighton, and maybe even Hurd(Hopefully Glenn too) for a big play or 3 or 7. Then, on the other side, Big D's Monsterous Big D-line will take care of Jacobs and Co. and stay in Eli's grill to keep him flustered.
Business as usual against the Giants.

Granite Moose

01/07/2008, 07:07

I've got no commitment to either team, but I find it hard to believe that Eli will play two quality playoff games in a row. He's certainly capable of a good game, but he hasn't really shown any consistancy in his career to this point. Who knows, ,maybe the "big game" drama will push him to that next level. I for one always hope for a good game to watch, but I think Dallas takes this one.

Bubblehead

01/07/2008, 11:15

If Eli does win this game, he'll tank at the next. LOL It's almost a guarantee. 4 picks as well. It's just good Eli-ball.

spiderman9797

01/07/2008, 11:44

Why, yes, I believe you are correct. Except that the Cowboys owned the Giants this year. I'm talking pre-internet-pwnage-b.s.-leet. I'm talking old-school-smack-ownage. (yes the games weren't run-aways for sure, but the Cowboys won them both, so they "own" the bragging rights until the Giants beat them). And I can't really say that T.O. put on any "attitude" displays this year that were comparable to his recent past. For T.O., he's been fairly subdued. But remember to take anything I type with a grain of salt, I'm just trying to get hyped for this weekend. "Obnoxious" and "Cowboy fan" go hand-in-hand, at least that's what they've been telling me since 1972 or so.
Ah, okay. I thought you were talking about the internet slang "own". If not, then yes, the Cowboys own the Giants.

And I agree, T.O. has been fairly mild this year. Although he still likes "putting on a display".

Gambit

01/07/2008, 13:22

Yeah, the scores might have been close but there was no serious danger of a loss.

That being said, Eli Manning has won more NFL Playoff Games than Tony Romo. And I think jittery fingers combined with TO's slight injury , and Jessica Simpson will mean the Giants fight off the hat trick.

:laugh: You mean the one that he just won this year (Saturday). Romo hasn't even gotten his chance yet this year. If it weren't for the Seattle Slip we wouldn't even be talking about this. Why Parcells kept him as a holder when he was the starter is beyond me.

NeoShazam

01/07/2008, 13:31

:laugh: You mean the one that he just won this year (Saturday). Romo hasn't even gotten his chance yet this year. If it weren't for the Seattle Slip we wouldn't even be talking about this. Why Parcells kept him as a holder when he was the starter is beyond me.

Yep.

Romo is good, but he hasn't won a playoff game. The Giants looked way better against New England than Dallas did.

Romo HAS to be feeling a little sense of fear/anxiety that they could lose this game, with his sore finger, a dinged up TO , and an offense that came into the playoffs out of sync and are now coming off a bye week. The Cowboys are a vulnerable team at this time and the Giants look good after deciding to play it out versus NE after getting a bunch of injuries to players, in particular Shockey and Jacobs.

Gambit

01/07/2008, 13:50

Yep.

Romo is good, but he hasn't won a playoff game. The Giants looked way better against New England than Dallas did.

Romo HAS to be feeling a little sense of fear/anxiety that they could lose this game, with his sore finger, a dinged up TO , and an offense that came into the playoffs out of sync and are now coming off a bye week. The Cowboys are a vulnerable team at this time and the Giants look good after deciding to play it out versus NE after getting a bunch of injuries to players, in particular Shockey and Jacobs.

I don't think so, he has enough confidence himself and knowing that he beat them twice oh his turf and their turf he probably feels like he can do it again.

I don't think it's the Giants offense that scares them because that Cowboys D has gotten better and last time the played Shockey was their leading reciever and he is not going to be there at Texas Stadium.

If Shaun O'hara is out again I expect Jay Ratliff, Demarcus Ware, and Greg Ellis to have big days. If Eli is under constant pressure I don't think Toomer or Burress will fair well against Henry and Newman.

It's the Dallas offense that scares me when they don't run the ball 20+ times, but I do think T.O. will play, but Jason Witten should be the Giants main concern.

Granite Moose

01/07/2008, 14:35

but Jason Witten should be the Giants main concern.

I'm always amazed that more teams don't focus on Witten as much as his production warrants. He's Romo's third-down safety net and he always seems to be open.

machineman

01/07/2008, 19:57

I'm always amazed that more teams don't focus on Witten as much as his production warrants. He's Romo's third-down safety net and he always seems to be open.

I think teams focus on him, but still underestimate him, and because of T.O. and the constant threat he poses, they can't devote the manpower it would take to completely shut him down. Teams prepare for Witten, but I just think he's nigh-unstoppable. I've been watching him since his days at Tennessee. He's always been this good. I just realized that Dallas' two main recieving threats played their college ball at UT. T.O. came out of UT, Chattanooga.

Gambit

01/07/2008, 22:12

And Peyton came out of UT. They produce great talent down there...lol.

machineman

01/08/2008, 00:36

so does Eastern Illinois. There's Romo, of course, and also......
Well there's also that legendary figure of Christmas renoun, Burl Ives, the voice of Sam the Snowman from the classic Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer. He played his college football at EI too.

machineman

01/08/2008, 00:37

And, by the way congrats LSU!-------- SEC!! SEC!! SEC!

machineman

01/08/2008, 00:39

And Peyton came out of UT. They produce great talent down there...lol.
And so did I, but don't count that against them--;)

Granite Moose

01/08/2008, 10:36

I think teams focus on him, but still underestimate him, and because of T.O. and the constant threat he poses, they can't devote the manpower it would take to completely shut him down. Teams prepare for Witten, but I just think he's nigh-unstoppable. I've been watching him since his days at Tennessee. He's always been this good. I just realized that Dallas' two main recieving threats played their college ball at UT. T.O. came out of UT, Chattanooga.

Oh I definitely agree that T.O. has to be your main focus; he's just too deadly. And I certainly don't mean to sound like I'm minimizing Witten's talent. Of course, it's not like Dallas only has a couple of stars (pardon the pun) that you can focus on, they're pretty well-represented throughout their line-up. And the more experience Romo gets, the more dangerous they are going to become.

I'm still hoping for Dallas/Green Bay and New England/Indianapolis for the Championship games as I think they will be the most entertaining to watch.

machineman

01/08/2008, 20:44

I'm still hoping for Dallas/Green Bay and New England/Indianapolis for the Championship games as I think they will be the most entertaining to watch.

me too!
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Bubblehead

01/12/2008, 20:23

I'm unofficially on the Cowboys bandwagon. Crush Favre. Shut that old man up and end Green Bay's ways.

Bitter...just a bit. but the only way that Green Bay winsin the playoffs is at Lambeau and nowhere else. And in snowstorms.

Now...how bout dem Cowboys?

machineman

01/12/2008, 23:40

Now...how bout dem Cowboys?

I'm takin' it that you are a Seattle fan? Well, I'll take any type of converts on the 'Boys wagon-- ;) But you gotta remember to hit that "caps lock" button when you type that when you're riding this wagon--- :)

Bubblehead

01/13/2008, 00:05

I'm takin' it that you are a Seattle fan? Well, I'll take any type of converts on the 'Boys wagon-- ;) But you gotta remember to hit that "caps lock" button when you type that when you're riding this wagon--- :)

I'm only a fan for one game. it'll have to do.

machineman

01/13/2008, 00:53

well, ok then. Welcome in for one game then!

spiderman9797

01/13/2008, 19:49

I'm unofficially on the Cowboys bandwagon. Crush Favre. Shut that old man up and end Green Bay's ways.
So much for that idea. ;)

NeoShazam

01/13/2008, 19:49

Down they GO !!!! BIG OLE MICHAEL STRAHAN !

Eli Manning 2 - Tony Romo 0.

Gambit

01/13/2008, 19:52

FIRE WADE PHILLIPS!

Once a loser, always a loser.!

Darkseid Sr.

01/13/2008, 19:55

charlesx

01/13/2008, 19:59

Better luck next years, boys.

NeoShazam

01/13/2008, 20:06

No, that is not the solution. The solution is simply to give Tony Romo a better OL. Did you watch the Patriots game? Do you realize why Brady was so successful? He has an offensive line that gives him time in the pocket...

:tired:

Eh ?

They've been really good all year. The Giants finally got pressure to him the in the 2nd half.

The only problem I see is that they seem a lot to me like San Diego was last year, they racked up this great record , bought into the hype , and showed up and didn't finish it. They tossed the Giants around in the first half just like Chargers did to NE last year. They let the Giants get a Touchdown right before halftime, just like the Chargers let NE do last year.

When the going got tough, the cliche kicked in, "they didn't want it as much". That drive with 7 minutes left to go that took 3-5 minutes off the clock and was filled with penalties was the unravelling of the team. They didn't show up in the 2nd half, when in the regular season they were the best team in the 2nd half.

Granite Moose

01/13/2008, 20:21

I kind of saw this one coming when I was watching the pre-game show. Pam Oliver asked Wade Phillips if it would still be a good season if they didn't make the Super Bowl. And he said, and I paraphrase here, "Oh yeah. Even if we lose today, we still had a great season." Once I heard that, I expected the Giants to win. The regular season doesn't mean squat except to get you in the playoffs. Anything short of a Super Bowl title is a failure. Ask the Patriots if they would be okay with their 16-0 regular season if they don't win the Super Bowl. No way. If that's the mindset of the coach, you're almost destined to lose. Even if that's what you feel, don't say it. You're chancing the Karma Gods too much.

I know the fans of the Cowboys and Colts probably don't think so, but there were two great games today. I love watching football games that come down to the wire where one play can make or break a team. Hopefully next week's games will be just as much fun to watch.

spiderman9797

01/13/2008, 20:27

No, that is not the solution. The solution is simply to give Tony Romo a better OL. Did you watch the Patriots game? Do you realize why Brady was so successful? He has an offensive line that gives him time in the pocket...

:tired:
That's not the solution at all. Or anywhere close, actually. In fact, Dallas has one of the best, if not -the- best, O-Line in the NFL. Why else would 3 of their offensive linemen be starting in the Pro Bowl? No, that's not it. I don't think many O-Lines could have withstood that front four (best front four in the NFL) combined with the blitz schemes that the Gaints put up. I might even go so far as to say that O-Line could be the last place they need to touch up on.

No, they got away from their run game in the second half, just like they do when they lose. When you have a guy like Marion Barber, and he's having a game like he is, rush him in the second half. Now, he already had plenty of rushes in the first half, so he was tired, but that's a whole different problem. Which is why I would say they need someone other than Julius Jones. Maybe a better running back? Felix Jones, Ray Rice, Mike Hart, etc. But even with Julius Jones, they had a good enough team to go to the Super Bowl. They just didn't execute that well, and there were a lot of plays where Tony Romo wasn't in sync with his wide receivers and where his receivers just didn't catch the ball *cough*PatrickCrayton*cough*.

Tony also just missed his receivers. I mean, every quarterback misses his receivers occasionally, even Peyton and Tom, but Tony did it too much to win the game.

And even with their receivers not doing well, Tony not being as accurate as he could have been, and not having a really good second running back, they still almost won the game.

Darkseid Sr.

01/13/2008, 20:34

That's not the solution at all. Or anywhere close, actually. In fact, Dallas has one of the best, if not -the- best, O-Line in the NFL. Why else would 3 of their offensive linemen be starting in the Pro Bowl? No, that's not it. I don't think many O-Lines could have withstood that front four (best front four in the NFL) combined with the blitz schemes that the Gaints put up. I might even go so far as to say that O-Line could be the last place they need to touch up on.

And there I disagree. The Cowboys do not have the best OL. How many times throughout the season have we said that same thing? Didn't we say that about the Eagles when we played them but a few weeks ago? Sure, the OL is generally solid, but the problem is that once it is presented with a good DL or a good blitz scheme, it tends to fall apart.

spiderman9797

01/13/2008, 20:38

And there I disagree. The Cowboys do not have the best OL. How many times throughout the season have we said that same thing? Didn't we say that about the Eagles when we played them but a few weeks ago? Sure, the OL is generally solid, but the problem is that once it is presented with a good DL or a good blitz scheme, it tends to fall apart.
Considering that most O-Lines can't handle a great front four (the best in football, maybe?) or a great blitz scheme (Eagles are the best blitzers in the NFL), I don't think you can take 2 games and say that they need touching up. There is a reason that more than half of the O-Line is going to the Prow Bowl as starters.

Darkseid Sr.

01/13/2008, 20:48

Considering that most O-Lines can't handle a great front four (the best in football, maybe?) or a great blitz scheme (Eagles are the best blitzers in the NFL), I don't think you can take 2 games and say that they need touching up. There is a reason that more than half of the O-Line is going to the Prow Bowl as starters.

I don't believe the Pro Bowl is a proper way to measure how good an OL is.

spiderman9797

01/13/2008, 20:55

I think it's an indication. Not a measurement.

Darkseid Sr.

01/13/2008, 21:04

I think it's an indication. Not a measurement.

It's an indication of how many fans want their players in Hawaii.

DocDoom187

01/13/2008, 21:57

Giants roxxorz all of your soxxorz.

Thawmus

01/13/2008, 23:27

I gotta agree with Owens. You can't pin it all on Romo.

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Patrick Crayton. That's where it belongs. Loudmouth Jackass doesn't execute when it matters. Sunrise, sunset. He can stand among the greats, like Vanderjagt, Owens, and Anthony Smith. :laugh:

spiderman9797

01/14/2008, 16:21

Does anybody remember Patrick Crayton guaranteeing that his team would be playing against the Pats in the Super Bowl? I distinctly remember that, and it makes me love the Giants that much more.

darius_dax1

01/14/2008, 16:42

Romo and Jessica take a vacation to Mexico.

Giants smack the cowgirls out of the playoffs.

T.O. cries about possible ridicule.

Priceless..

machineman

01/14/2008, 19:57

And you're just relieved that the Pack doesn't have to go to Dallas for another spanking :P .

Good luck to Green Bay though. I hope Favre can pull out a SuperBowl win. Of course I hate the Giants, but I really despise the Pats. And nobody wants to see a Giants/Pats re-match, it was a good game the first time around, but its too fresh for another go. And does anyone besides Chargers fans think the Pats won't go?

The Cowboys just peaked too early this year. Hopefully they can keep it all in-check next year through the whole post/season. It really sucks that the Cowboys/Packers rematch for the championship ain't happening. That is one game I don't think is too early too see again.

darius_dax1

01/14/2008, 21:21

And you're just relieved that the Pack doesn't have to go to Dallas for another spanking :P .

Hell yeah I'm jazzed about that! I won't even try to hide it. I have been predicting it for a few weeks (it being a Dallas loss in week 2) so I have been pulling for a NYG win...and I even like the Giants.

Good luck to Green Bay though. I hope Favre can pull out a SuperBowl win. Of course I hate the Giants, but I really despise the Pats. And nobody wants to see a Giants/Pats re-match, it was a good game the first time around, but its too fresh for another go. And does anyone besides Chargers fans think the Pats won't go?

The Cowboys just peaked too early this year. Hopefully they can keep it all in-check next year through the whole post/season. It really sucks that the Cowboys/Packers rematch for the championship ain't happening. That is one game I don't think is too early too see again.

I think the Pats will win next week...of course I hope I am wrong. I want them to lose at least one game this season....Beat the Cheat!

machineman

01/14/2008, 22:02

[COLOR="Blue"]I think the Pats will win next week...of course I hope I am wrong. I want them to lose at least one game this season....Beat the Cheat!

I want them to lose one too. But I want it to be in the Super Bowl, and I want it to be Brett Favre who beats them. Since I can't have my perfect scenario of the young gun(Romo) Battling the seasoned vet(Favre) to, sort of, pass the torch, signaling a new legend in the making, I really want the old war horse to take down the snide, oh-carp-my-girlfriend-is-pregnant-I'm-leaving-her-but-quick Brady. And I want the Pack to demoralize the cheating (rhymes with) fastards!

Don't get me wrong, I think Tom Brady is ,and probably will go down as, one of the top QB's ever. I just really don't like the Patriots. And I really want Miami to be the only team to ever have an undefeated entire season(and I don't even like Miami.). I'm just a fan of old school NFL Legends, and that 72 Dolphins team is one of those legends. I'm the biggest Emmitt Smith fan I know, but I was still upset when he overtook Payton on the all-time list.

I'd also really love it if Farve won this SuperBowl and then retired. Not many get a chance like Farve has. He was great for so many years, then, not so great, and now has had an unbelievable resurgance. I'd love for him to go out on top. It would be a great addition to those old NFL legends as opposed to an undefeated Patriots.

Also, if anyone needs a Favre rookie card (or even Brady) I've got them for trade (plug, plug!, see my trade thread!)---- ;)

machineman

01/14/2008, 22:10

Does anybody remember Patrick Crayton guaranteeing that his team would be playing against the Pats in the Super Bowl? I distinctly remember that.....

Yeah, I remember. The guy has been a jerk all year. Hopefully Dallas will replace him. One good thing though, with he and Brandon Jacobs going at it via the after-game interviews, it helps bring back the old rivalry. Jacobs got in a good last word on the jerk too.

And yes, I will admit it, a win in the playoffs lets the Giants "own" the bragging rights.

NeoShazam

01/15/2008, 01:57

I figure Patriots are in. I thought Colts could/would beat them.

Green Bay/NY Giants favors Green Bay but the Giants are really good on the road.

Figure Favre/Brady Superbowl. Packers offense will give Patriots D lots of problems. Does Green Bay have a good pass rush ? To win they're gonna have to be bringing the heat a lot.

stark's heir

01/17/2008, 22:28

My brother lives outside of Dallas and sent me this...

---National Weather Service Alert---

New Tornado Policy for the D/FW area:

In case of possible tornadoes sweeping through the Dallas/Fort Worth area, we are asking you to take shelter at Texas Stadium.

**************************************************

We are certain that a touchdown will not occur there.

machineman

01/18/2008, 00:49

Thawmus

01/18/2008, 12:56

Does anybody remember Patrick Crayton guaranteeing that his team would be playing against the Pats in the Super Bowl? I distinctly remember that, and it makes me love the Giants that much more.

Yeah, he also thinks he's all that and a bag of chips.

And he obviously is. It's just that all that chip grease gets on his hands...... ;)

bagman04

01/21/2008, 00:37

So who are you cowboy fans rooting for in the superbowl?

machineman

01/21/2008, 00:40

Are you trying to tell me people are still playing NFL football?

machineman

01/21/2008, 00:42

Officially I am rooting against the Patriots, but if the stadium opened up and swallowed both teams into oblivion, I wouldn't be happier. I guess that's not really true, I'd rather the Patriots lose.

Gambit

01/21/2008, 00:55

So who are you cowboy fans rooting for in the superbowl?

Simple. Eli made me a Pats fan! It's copyrighted, I planning to sell T-shirts!

bagman04

01/21/2008, 00:59

I am pulling for the sucky giants, but if eli gets a forced fumble and a couple of interceptions one of which is a td, I will be happy. And the only giant who could be the sb mvp is brandon jacobs because he is a beast. the rest suck, but the pats suck even more and the bears are the lowest dirty broken rung on the ladder.

KitsuShel

01/21/2008, 01:05

Officially I am rooting against the Patriots, but if the stadium opened up and swallowed both teams into oblivion, I wouldn't be happier.

Exactly.

I'm not rooting for either. The Pats just on general principle. (Although Brady is pretty hot) And as for the Giants, I'm a Philly girl so if I ever breathed a word of rooting for them I'd be strung up. :p

Gambit

01/21/2008, 01:07

Exactly.

I'm not rooting for either. The Pats just on general principle. (Although Brady is pretty hot) And as for the Giants, I'm a Philly girl so if I ever breathed a word of rooting for them I'd be strung up. :p

Lynch Vote:: Kit

:p

Jackofhearts2005

02/03/2008, 17:18

I'm rooting for the Giants on general principle, even though I hate them.

machineman

09/16/2008, 01:50

Ok, two weeks in and the 'boys fans haven't revived this thread yet. What a great MNF game that was! Where was the defense? 78pts? 54 in the first half? Lotsa dumb mistakes, but a really great game to listen to(hadda work, of course!) I'll have to catch this on NFL Network's replay this week! The 'Boys are still here, WOOT!
Not that I think it will change the defense much, but looks like Roy Williams will be out for at least 5-6 weeks depending. And even though he's much less effective without his pattented horse-collar bring downs, he still gets burned too much anyway, but without him, the secondary is still gonna be less intimidating for sure.
The NFC East is a BEAST!!

Gambit

09/16/2008, 16:49

Thawmus

09/16/2008, 17:24

I think this proves that the winner of the Superbowl this year is coming from that Division. Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants are just, as Stuart Scott would say, are sick nasty!

How about Jason Witten torching the seconday with a bummed shoulder. We need that guy all 16 games. I'm so glad I bought his authentic jersey 2 years ago.

This would be discounting the Steelers, Packers, Cardinals (yes, I said Cardinals), Colts (who will be a powerhouse again in a matter of time), Patriots (who will be a powerhouse again in a matter of time), Browns (who just need to get their receivers off the injured list), and Panthers. Not to mention a whole slew of teams who are starting to get back into rhythm, and others like Baltimore, that we haven't even seen yet.

And, I hate to point this out: They've only played two games, and both defenses are awful.

That being said, it was Monday night, and they're both teams that are well known for having explosive offense. But saying they've proven they'll win the Super Bowl? Not a chance. They prove that by getting there and winning it.

Gambit

09/16/2008, 18:19

This would be discounting the Steelers, Packers, Cardinals (yes, I said Cardinals), Colts (who will be a powerhouse again in a matter of time), Patriots (who will be a powerhouse again in a matter of time), Browns (who just need to get their receivers off the injured list), and Panthers. Not to mention a whole slew of teams who are starting to get back into rhythm, and others like Baltimore, that we haven't even seen yet.

And, I hate to point this out: They've only played two games, and both defenses are awful.

That being said, it was Monday night, and they're both teams that are well known for having explosive offense. But saying they've proven they'll win the Super Bowl? Not a chance. They prove that by getting there and winning it.

The Giants Defense was statistically one of the worst in NFL history in the first 2 1/2 games last year and they were able to put it together and I have no doubt that both Dallas and Philly can do the same.

Plus, I did have the Steelers in the Superbowl in my Preseason pick, I just think that offense it not as explosive as Dallas and Philly.

The Cardinals will show their true colors in a few weeks and that Packers are 2-0 against teams that are 0-4 combined.

For the Colts and Browns, I don't see them holding up. I know the Colts will win thier division, but won't get to the game and the Browns will finish 8-8 and out of the playoffs.

So I think the NFC East has 3 of the top 10 teams in the league and have the best chances to make it to the big dance.

Thawmus

09/16/2008, 20:58

The Giants Defense was statistically one of the worst in NFL history in the first 2 1/2 games last year and they were able to put it together and I have no doubt that both Dallas and Philly can do the same.

Plus, I did have the Steelers in the Superbowl in my Preseason pick, I just think that offense it not as explosive as Dallas and Philly.

The Cardinals will show their true colors in a few weeks and that Packers are 2-0 against teams that are 0-4 combined.

For the Colts and Browns, I don't see them holding up. I know the Colts will win thier division, but won't get to the game and the Browns will finish 8-8 and out of the playoffs.

So I think the NFC East has 3 of the top 10 teams in the league and have the best chances to make it to the big dance.

I'll agree that they have 3 of the top 10. And I'll agree that Dallas is in the top 3. They probably even deserve the #1 power ranking at the moment.

As for the rest, we'll see. I'm very much interested in the Dallas/Green Bay game next week, as well as the Pittsburgh/Philadelphia game.

Grappler

09/16/2008, 22:30

Mondays game was about all a fan could hope for. And even at that, you got the feeling that especially in this division, this is just the start of it. I believe this will be about the toughest division race I have ever seen.
And yes, even with Monday's great game, there is a long way to go and still, any horse can win the race. And I am talking about the whole NFL now, and not just the NFC East.
My eyes are on the lookout for that team that seems to each year to come out of nowhere to be a serious contender. Its too early to tell yet. But teams like that often send early favorites packing.
This year is going to be a fight, and it will make for a great season, and I am so ready for it!
Put your chips down and get ready for a wild spinning of the wheel.
GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

machineman

09/16/2008, 23:41

This would be discounting the Steelers, Packers, Cardinals (yes, I said Cardinals), Colts (who will be a powerhouse again in a matter of time), Patriots (who will be a powerhouse again in a matter of time), Browns (who just need to get their receivers off the injured list), and Panthers. Not to mention a whole slew of teams who are starting to get back into rhythm, and others like Baltimore, that we haven't even seen yet.

And, I hate to point this out: They've only played two games, and both defenses are awful.

That being said, it was Monday night, and they're both teams that are well known for having explosive offense. But saying they've proven they'll win the Super Bowl? Not a chance. They prove that by getting there and winning it.

I will have to disagree with the Browns. They seem really bad on both sides of the ball. But I am with you on the Cardinals, if not now, then I think they will come together very soon. But if Lineart is taking notes from this rejuvenated Warner, then that offense has the potential to be very Patriot-like in my opinion. I'm not sure about the O-line, and that may be the weak link there, I'm not sure. Also, Lineart has a long way to go, so if he steps up, that will be key.

And, as I have been saying for two years, Tony Romo isn't where he needs to be yet either, but he has come a very long way in a very short time. He is handling pressure a little better than before, but like that interception he threw, he forces a little too much, even when the Cowboys are in a good position in the game. And the fumble brings back horrible memories of that feild goal placement fumble in the playoffs two years ago. But he's getting there, that's for sure.

Thawmus

09/17/2008, 00:54

I will have to disagree with the Browns. They seem really bad on both sides of the ball.

I'm not so sure.

Their offense is off-key, but they have plenty of good excuses. QB is out of practice, Breylon Edwards can't catch a cold, they've got a bunch of receivers on their injured list. Their rhythm isn't there, their timing is off, and Breylon Edwards can't catch a cold. I've said it twice, because it's aggravating. :ermm:

But their defense held Pittsburgh to 10 points. And Dallas didn't score near as well against them, as they did Philly last night. I don't think they're anything special, but I think they have definitely fixed the largest hole in their team from last year. I'm interested to see where they go from here.

Usually, every year, I predict for a team to get supremely angry, and have a blowout week, somewhere in week 3-5. I'm predicting the Browns to have that week. It may very well be against Baltimore this weekend. We'll see. But they're very frustrated right now, and they might rack up the scoreboard over it. Could be really fun to see, if it happens. :classic:

Enough about the Browns, I'll let you guys have your thread back.

The Mattador

09/29/2008, 17:37

Man, how 'bout them Cowboys?!!!

I got my popcorn ready!!!

Oh, what's that you say...my Redskins won!!!

Hail to the Redskins!!!

machineman

09/30/2008, 01:44

Man, how 'bout them Cowboys?!!!

I got my popcorn ready!!!

Oh, what's that you say...my Redskins won!!!

Hail to the Redskins!!!

Please do enjoy it while it lasts. :p

The Cowboys never can bring Campbell to the ground. There were some really weird plays and I didn't understand the play calling late in that game. Very un-"Garrett-like". That 3-and-out where they threw to T.O. on all three plays just left me dumbfounded. Of course it looked like the db's had a saddle on T.O. the entire game the way they were riding on his back, but my perspective may be skewed a little. But even the announcers(yeah, ok one of them was Aikman and the other one kisses Troy's rump) hinted at a quite a few no-calls for the 'Skins. There were two no-call face masks on cowboy returns, and the no-call false start where Cooley was 3 yards past the linebackers before the snap were kind of blatant, but the 'Boys should never had been in the position to where any of that mattered if they had played better on offense. Great run defense by the 'Skins, I will have to admit, and the physical play by their db's, while very cloe to being illegal, to say the least, was very effective to shut down the 'Boys most of the rest of the time, so I'm not saying the 'Skins didn't deserve that win by any means. Besides Romo doing his best impersonation of Jonathan Crompton (Univ. of Tennesse fans know exactly/painfully what I mean), the game was a pretty good watch.