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St-Dumas
09/14/2007, 21:15
We will be playing with standard Mafia rules (Found here (http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)) and normal house rules:
1) When voting for a lynch, please type in Vote: [Lynchee] in bold. When changing, type Change vote: [Lynchee] in bold.
2) Do not edit posts.
3) Please do not post after you have been killed.
4) You cannot PM other characters unless it is explicitly stated in your role PM that this is acceptable.
5) All night abilities are optional, unless it is explicitly stated that they are manditory.
6) Don't be annoying, stupid, or exhibit otherwise undesireable behavior. It just makes the whole thing less enjoyable.
7) Expect anything and remember, have fun!
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It was the 20th anniversary of the Xavier Institute for Higher Learning and the mansion was filled to the brim with mutants. Some were alumni, some were staff, some were students and some were full-fledged X-Men. Unfortunately, some hadn't been invited to the event.
When the school's founder, Charles Xavier, wheeled himself up to the podium, he was met with raucus applause from all watching him. However, his tone was for more ominous.
"My fellow mutants, I bear grave news." He said. "We have been infiltrated by threatening forces. Please, everyone look out for someone named..."
At that moment, the lights inside the room went black. Few understood what was going on, but when the lights came up Professor Xavier was lying face down on the podium, a silvery knife in his spine.
St-Dumas is dead. He was Professor X, Telepathic Headmaster who was the only one who could save his students.
Night One has begun. Roles have been sent out, so get those PM's in!
Day One will begin Saturday at 8:00 PM, PST.
Current Player list:
Thawmus
Iron_Ham
vicious_x
The_Vision
DarkCorsair
Rokk_Krinn
Doombot_3.1
m_a_caque
TMNT99
CarlosMucha
Calabolg
Amora's_best_friend
theanalogkid
biz567
bamf!
Magnito
RCricket55
JackofHearts2005
Antipathy
kontrol
scehaono
JackAssterton
turdburglar47
KitsuShel (Recent addition)
St-Dumas
09/16/2007, 00:00
Alright guys, due to serious lack of PM'ing (Literally half the people with night abilities have indicated they are using them), I will be extending Night One to Sunday, 12:00 PM, PST.
So get those PM's in!
St-Dumas
09/16/2007, 15:59
Night One is over.
With the sudden murder of Charles Xavier hanging in the air, many of the X-Mansion residents were worried, frightened for their lives.
Others were perfectly fine.
One such person snuck out of his room with surprising stealth, considering his stature. He crept across the carpeted hallway, creaking open one of the doors at the mansion. Seeing its inhabitant was still there, he pulled out, of all things, a video camera.
“Show me something good.” He whispered to himself. However, he was extremely disappointed. The man in the room wasn’t doing anything. He was just…just pacing around talking to himself. The cameraman couldn’t even hear what he was saying. And it lasted for a good fifteen minutes before he got frustrated and walked away.
Suddenly, he was shot repetitively by a high powered sniper rifle. It didn’t hurt, but stung like hell.
“Who the hell do you think you are?” He turned towards the attackers to see the one holding the gun was a blue-skinned woman, standing next to a cloaked man with a crimson helmet.
“This could be interesting.” The cameraman began to film the two characters. “Now do something!”
The cloaked man reached out a hand and the cameraman’s metallic legs were torn off. Surprisingly, he wasn’t angered, but excited.
“Yes!” He shouted. “The camera loves you!”
The spider-like legs flew through the air and stabbed the cameraman in his yellow-skinned head. As the gruesome figure bled to death, he turned towards his camera and said simply “Mojo, out!”
* * *
In a different part of the mansion, two X-Men walked down the hallways. Both were eager to find out something about the Professor’s death.
Another figure spied on them, waiting for the right moment to strike. He held out one hand and lifted the smaller one from the ground.
“Metal in your bones.” He said, walking out of the shadows. He was tackled to the ground by the other one, who began to attack him angrily.
“Go, Logan!” The big one said. “I’ll handle this!”
“Alright, Pete.” Logan answered as he ran down the hallway.
Pete, meanwhile, was stopped in his tracks by the attacker. He was lifted into the air and slowly torn apart.
“Who are you?” He asked as his limbs began to separate from his body.
“There are too many answers to that question.” The attacker answered as Colossus was silent.
* * *
Another man stalked the hallways. He was on a mission of vengeance; a personal vendetta against one of the X-Men’s most esteemed members.
He opened a door and saw a young girl, sleeping soundly. The door slamming behind him awoke her from her sleep.
“Who are you?” She asked drowsily.
“Where is he?” The man asked. “Where is James?”
She was too confused to answer. The man, seeing this was a futile effort, snapped the girl’s neck effortlessly.
The moment he walked into the hallway, a green figure was there to meet him.
“Look into my eyes.” The figure said. The murderer was motionless, and followed the figure down the hall and around the corner.
Logan came running around the other side to find the girl’s door open. He quickly ran into the room to find the girl was dead.
“Oh, Kitty…”
* * *
JackofHearts2005 is dead. He was Mojo, Spineless TV Producer who should’ve asked before he filmed.
m_a_caque is dead. He was Colossus, Big Russian Metal Man who died doing what he loved.
Rokk_Krinn is dead. He was Shadowcat, Intangible Jewish Girl who ran away too late.
Day 2 has begun. Night 2 will start Monday at 12:00 PM, or when a majority lynch vote is reached.
Thawmus
Iron_Ham
vicious_x
The_Vision
DarkCorsair
Doombot_3.1
TMNT99
CarlosMucha
Calabolg
Amora's_best_friend
theanalogkid
biz567
bamf!
Magnito
RCricket55
Antipathy
kontrol
scehaono
JackAssterton
turdburglar47
KitsuShel
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 16:20
Magneto ruining everyone's day yet again...
Jackofhearts2005
09/16/2007, 16:33
And I'm dead on the first 2 days again.
Glad I signed up for 3 of these at once. :p
theanalogkid
09/16/2007, 17:14
Is it just me, or are these getting more and more violent?
Poor Kitty. Why didn't you just phase? :cry:
The Vision
09/16/2007, 17:24
Magnito...Magneto...
Things that make you go Hmmmmm.....
;)
Wow, Rokk's dead too.... :(
Ok, Some things we can figure from this,
Magneto killed Colossus because Magneto tried to kill Logan (metal in your bones). Meaning Colossus was a bodyguard.
It looks like Mesmero(green figure) is recruiting and he ended up recruiting who I think would be Sabretooth.
Being that Colossus was killed on a bodyguard duty, that means that Magneto really wanted to kill Wolverine. (I hate having to do this so early) And being that I'm Wolverine, It means they're coming after me pretty quickly. Which I kind of expected. I'm just glad Colossus chose to protect me.
Course there's only a couple people I can think of that would want me dead so damn quick.
So I'm asking for the doctor to protect me while I try and ferret out the Mafia.
I definitely have a list of people judging from the targets (myself, Rokk, JoH) that I'm looking into come tonight.
So I'm asking for the doctor to protect me while I try and ferret out the Mafia.
I have a really bad feeling that this was Shadowcat. I think the mafia and/or serial killer axed both our protectors in the very first night.... :ermm:
I have a really bad feeling that this was Shadowcat. I think the mafia and/or serial killer axed both our protectors in the very first night.... :ermm:
For obvious reasons, I'm kind of hoping otherwise.
Course one bright side to this, certain roles can target me and find out who Magneto is. (least I hope so)
The Vision
09/16/2007, 18:15
Ok, Some things we can figure from this,
Magneto killed Colossus because Magneto tried to kill Logan (metal in your bones). Meaning Colossus was a bodyguard.
It looks like Mesmero(green figure) is recruiting and he ended up recruiting who I think would be Sabretooth.
Being that Colossus was killed on a bodyguard duty, that means that Magneto really wanted to kill Wolverine. (I hate having to do this so early) And being that I'm Wolverine, It means they're coming after me pretty quickly. Which I kind of expected. I'm just glad Colossus chose to protect me.
Course there's only a couple people I can think of that would want me dead so damn quick.
So I'm asking for the doctor to protect me while I try and ferret out the Mafia.
I definitely have a list of people judging from the targets (myself, Rokk, JoH) that I'm looking into come tonight.
Well, it day phase. Name a suspect and we can lynch them.
Heck, name two or three. We can lynch one and the investigators can check out the others.
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 18:17
Well, it day phase. Name a suspect and we can lynch them.
Heck, name two or three. We can lynch one and the investigators can check out the others.
Agreed. You have successfully roleclaimed on day 1 (beating my record of day 2, lol) and now here's my question - who should we lynch?
Antipathy
09/16/2007, 18:29
Ok, Some things we can figure from this,
Magneto killed Colossus because Magneto tried to kill Logan (metal in your bones). Meaning Colossus was a bodyguard.
It looks like Mesmero(green figure) is recruiting and he ended up recruiting who I think would be Sabretooth.
Being that Colossus was killed on a bodyguard duty, that means that Magneto really wanted to kill Wolverine. (I hate having to do this so early) And being that I'm Wolverine, It means they're coming after me pretty quickly. Which I kind of expected. I'm just glad Colossus chose to protect me.
Course there's only a couple people I can think of that would want me dead so damn quick.
So I'm asking for the doctor to protect me while I try and ferret out the Mafia.
I definitely have a list of people judging from the targets (myself, Rokk, JoH) that I'm looking into come tonight.
I disagree. To me, the guy in the crimson helmet was Magneto, who tore off Mojo's legs and was standing next to Mystique.
The guy who targeted you and killed Colossus sounds to me more like Legion. That also fits with that last quote of his, since Legion has multiple personality disorder.
Well, I only have previous games to go off of here.
The person I investigated last night was killed. So I didn't get anything in my PM box.
But from those past experiences, The hits were either carried out by vets or ordered by vets.
my particular suspect list right now Iron Ham, viciousx and JackAsserton, with Thawmus being on the radar.
I disagree. To me, the guy in the crimson helmet was Magneto, who tore off Mojo's legs and was standing next to Mystique.
The guy who targeted you and killed Colossus sounds to me more like Legion. That also fits with that last quote of his, since Legion has multiple personality disorder.
Possibly, I was thinking Joseph. The Metal in your bones line leads towards a metal controller. But who knows.
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 18:33
Well, I only have previous games to go off of here.
The person I investigated last night was killed. So I didn't get anything in my PM box.
But from those past experiences, The hits were either carried out by vets or ordered by vets.
my particular suspect list right now Iron Ham, viciousx and JackAsserton, with Thawmus being on the radar.
You just named three of the most experienced players... which would stand in line with how professionally the hits happened.
The one problem is, if we lynch me, Thawmus, or JackAssterson WRONGLY, we have lost one of our best allies, period.
There's a couple things I'd love to say but since it'd give the Mafia a playbook of sorts, I won't. And hope somebody out there is thinking what I am.
Antipathy
09/16/2007, 18:34
Possibly, I was thinking Joseph. The Metal in your bones line leads towards a metal controller. But who knows.
Legion is also a metal controller.
Plus, Legion has been discussed quite a lot in The Arena, which St-Dumas frequents.
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 18:35
Hmmm... a somewhat funny predicament...
You just named three of the most experienced players... which would stand in line with how professionally the hits happened.
The one problem is, if we lynch me, Thawmus, or JackAssterson WRONGLY, we have lost one of our best allies, period.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just saying from the people targeted, these are the people that stick out the most.
Legion is also a metal controller.
Plus, Legion has been discussed quite a lot in The Arena, which St-Dumas frequents.
Really, I thought he was Telekinetic, Telepathic and Pyrokinetic.
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 18:37
Well, will someone tell us who we should cast our vote for?
We cannot make this decision, as we have no information today.
Antipathy
09/16/2007, 18:39
David (Legion): naturally was born with telekinesis, telepathy, time travel (limits unknown, rarely used), appearance alteration, creation of psychic weapons, mind control, mental bolts, psionic blast, could induce paralysis, alter memories, cast illusion, and astral project
Alex: Fire and heat manipulation
Derrek: Shadow manipulation
Tanya: Light manipulation
Li-Tai: Cold and ice manipulation
Zachary: Metal manipulation
M'waika: Plant manipulation
Ahati: Electric manipulation
Eiji: Air and Wind manipulation
Meguito: Water and moisture manipulation
Rodney: Molecular manipulation
Boris: Radiation manipulation
Asahd: Energy manipulation
Stephan: Earth manipulation
Doyle: Sound manipulation
Sylvester: Probability manipulation
Lucas: Weather manipulation
Fanya: Teleportation
Meryl: Biological manipulation
Granted, this is from wikipedia, but I have a hard time believing somebody would make all the above up.
we defiantly have at least 2 metal controllers. One took mojo, the other took Colossus. Unless...maybe Magneto can make 2 kills? Would that be possible?
Antipathy
09/16/2007, 18:41
And, the above list doesn't include Jack, Karmai, nor Cyndi, so I don't think it's true.
The Vision
09/16/2007, 18:41
OK in scene one we have Magneto ordering Mystique to kill Mojo.
This means that Magneto and Mystique are one faction (Brotherhood) and Mojo was either a loner or a from a 2nd faction (He clearly isn't X-Men).
Scene two could be Magneto, but since we have him in scene one, I doubt that this is Maggie.
Scene three is probably Sabretooth.
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 18:43
Sabretooth is probably an independant killer...
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 18:44
Sabretooth is probably an independant killer... We think that he is like Jason Todd from the last game. He is a killer that kills to reach one person.
We still do not have any leads...
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 18:46
I'll be really angry if Sabretooth just needs to kill Wolverine to win...
I'll be really angry if Sabretooth just needs to kill Wolverine to win...
I'm sure he'll need to survive too.
Antipathy
09/16/2007, 18:48
It doesn't matter what his original objectives were. Sabertooth was recruited by the green guy.
Yeah, you're right, once recruited your original objective changes.
Antipathy
09/16/2007, 18:52
Who'd you track last night kontrol?
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 18:52
We think that Mysterio is possibly the "Skrull" of this game.
Are we the only one noticing how slow this game seems to be moving?
We believe we should start targeting some of the quiet ones if this keeps up... but we would like for them to have a chance to defend themselves also.
We will withhold our vote for now.
Who'd you track last night kontrol?
They're dead, it doesn't matter.
Antipathy
09/16/2007, 18:55
We think that Mysterio is possibly the "Skrull" of this game.
Are we the only one noticing how slow this game seems to be moving?
We believe we should start targeting some of the quiet ones if this keeps up... but we would like for them to have a chance to defend themselves also.
We will withhold our vote for now.
Mysterio?
Why would Mysterio be able to recruit people?
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 18:55
I love how I just accept that I have to trust you, even though you're probably mafia...
Anyway it's funny doing it...
They're dead, it doesn't matter.
Since you found the dead Shadowcat in the write up, was it her?
Mysterio?
Why would Mysterio be able to recruit people?
I think he meant Mesmero.
Since you found the dead Shadowcat in the write up, was it her?
Yeah, there was no indication of a misdirect.
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 19:00
Guys, we should be wary of mind control, like crazy Emma Frost/Jean Grey...
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 19:01
Is Emma Frost considered evil? She could be a funny villain.
Guys, we should be wary of mind control, like crazy Emma Frost/Jean Grey...
...except wouldn't they be on our side. (since they are both heroes).
Unless this is White Queen Emma, or Dark Phoenix Jean.
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 19:03
If this is Dark Phoenix Jean, then we will run like hell.
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 19:03
...except wouldn't they be on our side. (since they are both heroes).
Unless this is White Queen Emma, or Dark Phoenix Jean.
Hence the adjectival use of crazy...
:cool:
The Cuckoos could be the funniest joke, I bet they have a multiple lynch though, like 2 for the price of 1...
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 19:04
Hence the adjectival use of crazy...
:cool:
The Cuckoos could be the funniest joke, I bet they have a multiple lynch though, like 2 for the price of 1... We would like to say that we believe Multiple Man would be much more likely to get that power.
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 19:06
Oh yeah, the definition of having a multiple lynch vote!
Mystique could be a funny joke, like morphing into randoms (hope she is good, although she's obviously evil, hanging out with Magneto)
theanalogkid
09/16/2007, 19:07
The Collusus hit could have been done by a Malice controlled Polaris also. i don't know much about Legion but he could be it also.
So we have at least 4, possibly 5 villains in here identified.
Mystique, Magneto (Brotherhood) Shape shifter and Don
Legion??? (maybe the Vigilante)
Sabretooth (Serial Killer after me probably)
Mesmero (seems to be recruiting for his own Mafia and looks like he recruited Sabretooth) Don of alt Mafia
What would Mojo's role be?
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 19:08
We would also like to submit that Legion may well be an evil version of plastic man from the Crisis Mafia game.
Antipathy
09/16/2007, 19:09
Probably neutral, with a bad guy leaning, since he was an enemy of the X-men.
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 19:09
Mojo seemed to be a tracker.
Video Camera king.
We would also like to submit that Legion may well be an evil version of plastic man from the Crisis Mafia game.
Different power every night thing?
DarkCorsair
09/16/2007, 19:11
The Collusus hit could have been done by a Malice controlled Polaris also. i don't know much about Legion but he could be it also.
Malice would add a new twist. We've seen what appears to be Magneto, but what if Sinister also has a band of Marauders here? Could be 2 mafias operating. Although, the clues point to Colossus's attacker being a man, but only once. The attacker, holding out a hand, is described as a "he". I'm inclined to agree with the idea of Legion, and Polaris would likely also be more immediately familiar to Colossus.
theanalogkid
09/16/2007, 19:16
True. Anyone have any concrete leads?
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 19:18
We would like to submit that we should target someone who is normally active, but is being quiet now.
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 19:20
Who could that be?
Isn't the whole point of being Mafia you are supposed to post frequently to avoid people suspecting you? (See Kit in the Harry Potter game, secretly the Dark Lord, pretending to be Dumbledore)
I'd just like to say that in the event that I'd have a killing power, I'd kill someone other than one of the veterans. The veterans are usually protected on the first night, and I'd know ahead of time that it'd make me look suspicious. Someone did this having played one or two games already and had seen how much JoH and Rokk post. I wouldn't be shocked if Jackassterson and I are next.
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 19:21
Lol I'm getting all paranoid.
*Scrutinises Iron Ham*
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 19:21
I'd just like to say that in the event that I'd have a killing power, I'd kill someone other than one of the veterans. The veterans are usually protected on the first night, and I'd know ahead of time that it'd make me look suspicious. Someone did this having played one or two games already and had seen how much JoH and Rokk post. I wouldn't be shocked if Jackassterson and I are next.
We wouldn't be surprised to be a target either.
After what we did to the HP Mafia, at least!
True. Anyone have any concrete leads?
The most concrete lead, would be who would want the three targets dead.
I'd rather any other info gatherer keep their mouth shut for the time being. I'm more than a good enough target for the Mafia and/or serial killer tonight. No sense in giving them two.
We wouldn't be surprised to be a target either.
After what we did to the HP Mafia, at least!
Is there a reason you're speaking in plural?
I mean, it's cool that you're role-playing and all, but with Legion running around, it may not be the best idea. Just saying.....
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 19:24
Is there a reason you're speaking in plural?
I mean, it's cool that you're role-playing and all, but with Legion running around, it may not be the best idea. Just saying.....
We are not Legion, though we are many.
*pigs run over a cliff*
uhhhh, that wasn't our fault! :speechles
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 19:25
Legionnaire's Disease.
We are not Legion, though we are many.
*pigs run over a cliff*
uhhhh, that wasn't our fault! :speechles
Stepford???
Amora's_best_friend
09/16/2007, 19:27
I love.
Multiple Man / Stepford CUckoos in action.
Iron Ham
09/16/2007, 19:28
We would like to submit that perhaps we are simply trying to upstage the Rukuz.
:p
I'd just like to say that in the event that I'd have a killing power, I'd kill someone other than one of the veterans. The veterans are usually protected on the first night, and I'd know ahead of time that it'd make me look suspicious. Someone did this having played one or two games already and had seen how much JoH and Rokk post. I wouldn't be shocked if Jackassterson and I are next.
But the key here is that they targeted me as well. It might be slight paranoia, since I've been taken out 2 times in the first day twice now.
But, I believe one if not two of the hits last night were performed/ordered a vet. The other most likely a rookie. I'm more concerned with the vet since most likely the JoH hit was a Mafia hit that follows the vet pattern for one (i.e. Two on one.)
But the key here is that they targeted me as well. It might be slight paranoia, since I've been taken out 2 times in the first day twice now.
I forgot about that, C-los took the bullet for you.
But, I believe one if not two of the hits last night were performed/ordered a vet. The other most likely a rookie. I'm more concerned with the vet since most likely the JoH hit was a Mafia hit that follows the vet pattern for one (i.e. Two on one.)
That makes sense. But we really haven't seen that tactic used since the Crisis Mafia. Which feels like it ended ages ago. And most people who were playing in that game would doubtfully be capable of noticing the tactic, much less remembering it.
Which, I guess brings me right back to you being probably right, one of the better players is probably in the mafia. Or they're the serial killer. Or both.
One other thing to note is that there are a lot of newer players in this game, that may have spent time researching past games. I didn't play in the first one, and reading the old game was how I got up to speed with a lot of the basic strategy of the game. A newer player that spent the time to read all of those old threads would be more than capable of pulling off the tactic as well.
Anywho, that's all I got for hypotheses at this point.
Are you just a simple investigator, or are you going to be able to sniff the dead bodies and find out who killed them? You've kinda indicated both, which makes me a little leery. I mean, you're roleclaiming as Wolverine, so if you're a fake, the real one COULD come out and have you killed, but since we're not certain we have any protectors left, they might be too scared to say anything yet. Just saying that the situation doesn't really help anyone who roleclaims anymore, until we see tonight if a protector is out on duty or not.
In any case, it'd be more helpful if you cleared that up, so that anyone who tracks you tonight doesn't get a weird PM back to them, and ends up implicating our Cop tomorrow.
RCricket55
09/16/2007, 20:04
sorry guys, I don't have any info to offer.
turdburglar47
09/16/2007, 20:24
Holy ####.
For anyone curious as to why this game is going so slow, it started on a weekend. I completely missed the beginning of this game and just found the thread two minutes ago. Seems a little quick. And that's a hell of a lot of carnage for one night. So "being quiet" right now could also be "oh, ####, the game started already?"
Unless I'm just lame and unobservant.
Calabolg
09/16/2007, 20:29
Holy ####.
For anyone curious as to why this game is going so slow, it started on a weekend. I completely missed the beginning of this game and just found the thread two minutes ago. Seems a little quick. And that's a hell of a lot of carnage for one night. So "being quiet" right now could also be "oh, ####, the game started already?"
Unless I'm just lame and unobservant.
Umm, yeah, what he said. ^^;;
Holy ####.
For anyone curious as to why this game is going so slow, it started on a weekend. I completely missed the beginning of this game and just found the thread two minutes ago. Seems a little quick. And that's a hell of a lot of carnage for one night. So "being quiet" right now could also be "oh, ####, the game started already?"
Unless I'm just lame and unobservant.
If you think this is carnage you should look at the Harry Potter game.
If you think this is carnage you should look at the Harry Potter game.
What he said. ^^
turdburglar47
09/16/2007, 20:45
Okay, so basically we have no leads on who anybody might be, other than kontrol being Wolverine? So any lynch vote would be a shot in the dark?
I forgot about that, C-los took the bullet for you.
Not quite, I still got killed. Vicious got bound after he killed me.
That makes sense. But we really haven't seen that tactic used since the Crisis Mafia. Which feels like it ended ages ago. And most people who were playing in that game would doubtfully be capable of noticing the tactic, much less remembering it.
Maybe not.
Which, I guess brings me right back to you being probably right, one of the better players is probably in the mafia. Or they're the serial killer. Or both.
If I'm reading the post correctly. The Serial killer got recruited.
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One other thing to note is that there are a lot of newer players in this game, that may have spent time researching past games. I didn't play in the first one, and reading the old game was how I got up to speed with a lot of the basic strategy of the game. A newer player that spent the time to read all of those old threads would be more than capable of pulling off the tactic as well.
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Sure, that's easily possible. But looking at the list of people that are still alive. I'm sure one of the vets is in the Mafia (Brotherhood)
Anywho, that's all I got for hypotheses at this point.
Are you just a simple investigator, or are you going to be able to sniff the dead bodies and find out who killed them? You've kinda indicated both, which makes me a little leery. I mean, you're roleclaiming as Wolverine, so if you're a fake, the real one COULD come out and have you killed, but since we're not certain we have any protectors left, they might be too scared to say anything yet. Just saying that the situation doesn't really help anyone who roleclaims anymore, until we see tonight if a protector is out on duty or not.
In any case, it'd be more helpful if you cleared that up, so that anyone who tracks you tonight doesn't get a weird PM back to them, and ends up implicating our Cop tomorrow.
Now Thawmus you know better than to ask that question. I'd rather be ambiguous as to specifics of my skill set. Simply saying that I'm Wolverine, put the onus on the Mafia to try to take me out, role block or possibly misdirect me. Either way they're putting their resources on a known quantity away from other people. The only other thing they would want to do is try to find the doctor first. Which would give me an extra day to find out more information. Anybody that wants to track me and gets back evil would have to have been targeted for misdirection themselves. There's no power I can think of that would alter my alignment short of me being recruited.
In fact Thawmus, trying and find out the specifics of what I can do this early outside of what I said. That stinks of Mafia (or alt Mafia)
I think I'll go with
Vote: Thawmus
Too much of what you're doing is out of character for you when you're on the townie side.
The Vision
09/16/2007, 21:13
OK, just to stir the pot...
What if Kontrol is Mystique??
I've got no info either way, I'm just saying...
OK, just to stir the pot...
What if Kontrol is Mystique??
I've got no info either way, I'm just saying...
The pot should be stirred actually. I put myself up for targetting, we should be attempting to ferret out whether I'm being truthful or not. And it's possible to do that without the role, that I think is in the game, even attempting to target me.
But you have to know your role.
Not quite, I still got killed. Vicious got bound after he killed me.
If that's the case, then why doesn't it say you're dead??? :confused:
Maybe not.
If I'm reading the post correctly. The Serial killer got recruited.
That's the way I read it as well.
Now Thawmus you know better than to ask that question. I'd rather be ambiguous as to specifics of my skill set. Simply saying that I'm Wolverine, put the onus on the Mafia to try to take me out, role block or possibly misdirect me. Either way they're putting their resources on a known quantity away from other people. The only other thing they would want to do is try to find the doctor first. Which would give me an extra day to find out more information. Anybody that wants to track me and gets back evil would have to have been targeted for misdirection themselves. There's no power I can think of that would alter my alignment short of me being recruited.
Actually, I typically DO ask that question of ROLECLAIMED townies. Especially if a cop is going to up and roleclaim WITHOUT any info. Which has my trigger finger EXTREMELY itchy. So yeah, I want to know a hell of a lot more right now, because at this point, you yourself wreak of mafia. It's absolutely unprecedented for a cop to roleclaim without info, and it's a poor tactical choice for you, as a vet, to make. Especially when you and I have BOTH noted the possibility that our two protectors are already dead.
So I think my curiosity is more than warranted right now. You're good enough at this game to lead us into a 3 day trap of uselessness.
Regardless of my fears at the moment, I'm not going to return a vote, because I'm NOT mafia, and on the off-chance that you ARE a cop, we can't afford to have you lynched already.
In fact Thawmus, trying and find out the specifics of what I can do this early outside of what I said. That stinks of Mafia (or alt Mafia)
Understandable, but I think you need to look at this from an outside perspective. I have no reason to trust you right now, and your tactics thus far have been poor enough to make you suspect. My questions are definitely warranted.
Whoa whoa whoa! When did this start???
I'm in this and I didn't know it started yet.
Antipathy
09/16/2007, 21:26
It's absolutely unprecedented for a cop to roleclaim without info, and it's a poor tactical choice for you, as a vet, to make. Especially when you and I have BOTH noted the possibility that our two protectors are already dead.
It's not a poor tactical choice. Somebody who has a killing power targeted kontrol. However, he got lucky, because Colossus the bodyguard took the hit instead. If he didn't role-claim, requesting protection by the doc, what prevents the killer from targeting him again?
It's not a poor tactical choice. Somebody who has a killing power targeted kontrol. However, he got lucky, because Colossus the bodyguard took the hit instead. If he didn't role-claim, requesting protection by the doc, what prevents the killer from targeting him again?
Then simply ask for protection. Asking for protection isn't going to tell the mafia to eternally misdirect you.
turdburglar47
09/16/2007, 21:33
Whoa whoa whoa! When did this start???
I'm in this and I didn't know it started yet.
I know. I was in the same boat when I found the thread this afternoon.
I know. I was in the same boat when I found the thread this afternoon.
Alright so have I missed anything important guys?
Or the basic first day nothingness.
turdburglar47
09/16/2007, 21:40
Lots of death. Kontrol is claiming to be Wolverine and he wants to be protected by the doctor.
Colossus and Shadowcat, likely our two protectors, are both dead, as is Mojo, likely some kind of tracker.
Seems like the pooch is kinda screwed from the get-go.
Lynch vote isn't progressing very fast. Thawmus and Kontrol exchanging accusations of Mafianess.
If that's the case, then why doesn't it say you're dead??? :confused:
I thought you were talking about the Crisis game where Carlos (who I though you meant when you said C-los) locked up viciousx who tried to kill me. But I now realize you meant Colossus.
That's the way I read it as well.
Actually, I typically DO ask that question of ROLECLAIMED townies. Especially if a cop is going to up and roleclaim WITHOUT any info. Which has my trigger finger EXTREMELY itchy. So yeah, I want to know a hell of a lot more right now, because at this point, you yourself wreak of mafia. It's absolutely unprecedented for a cop to roleclaim without info, and it's a poor tactical choice for you, as a vet, to make. Especially when you and I have BOTH noted the possibility that our two protectors are already dead.
Actually you noted it, I just said, I'm thinking otherwise for obvious reasons.
So I think my curiosity is more than warranted right now. You're good enough at this game to lead us into a 3 day trap of uselessness.
I'll readily admit my roleclaiming this early and relying on others to believe me is highly unorthodox. But I think it's necessary. We're postulating that Legion is a Vigilante and that the person with the vendetta against James was a serial killer. But what if we're wrong. In that case, the guy that tried to kill me last night will do so again tonight and you still have no info whatsoever. By setting myself up as a target, we can easily ferret out some interesting information. And if I'm not Wolverine, I'm keeping him safe as hell right now, correct. And if that is the case, why would I do that?
Regardless of my fears at the moment, I'm not going to return a vote, because I'm NOT mafia, and on the off-chance that you ARE a cop, we can't afford to have you lynched already.
Understandable, but I think you need to look at this from an outside perspective. I have no reason to trust you right now, and your tactics thus far have been poor enough to make you suspect. My questions are definitely warranted.
Some are, others questions would give the Mafia a specific plan of attack against me.
Lynch vote isn't progressing very fast. Thawmus and Kontrol exchanging accusations of Mafianess.
Hold up a sec, I'm not accusing Kontrol of anything. I'm just saying I'm a little paranoid.
You'll know when I'm going into full-blown "You killed my momma" mode. ;)
I thought you were talking about the Crisis game where Carlos (who I though you meant when you said C-los) locked up viciousx who tried to kill me. But I now realize you meant Colossus.
Actually you noted it, I just said, I'm thinking otherwise for obvious reasons.
It came off as wishful thinking to me, which struck me as acknowledgement.
I'll readily admit my roleclaiming this early and relying on others to believe me is highly unorthodox. But I think it's necessary. We're postulating that Legion is a Vigilante and that the person with the vendetta against James was a serial killer. But what if we're wrong. In that case, the guy that tried to kill me last night will do so again tonight and you still have no info whatsoever. By setting myself up as a target, we can easily ferret out some interesting information. And if I'm not Wolverine, I'm keeping him safe as hell right now, correct. And if that is the case, why would I do that?
First off, if you recognize that you're causing some paranoia, why would you throw a lynch vote at someone who questions it?
Secondly, you've played the game long enough with me to know that I lie. A lot. And sometimes when I'm breaking someone's balls, I'm trying to mislead the mafia. I won't say more, or I'll betray the whole point behind this, but I think you should be able to figure out what I'm doing here.
Some are, others questions would give the Mafia a specific plan of attack against me.
Fair enough, answer the ones that won't do that. Cmon now, you know I wouldn't want you to give the mafia a hitlist.
St-Dumas
09/16/2007, 22:43
Current vote tally:
Thawmus: 1 (kontrol)
11 is needed for a majority.
The Vision
09/16/2007, 22:51
So why do we think Shadow Cat was a protector??
DarkCorsair
09/16/2007, 22:53
So why do we think Shadow Cat was a protector??
She can make other people and objects intangible if she's touching them, which would make a sensible protector role. No way you can get shot if bullets pass through you. Would make sense. Not necessarily true, but likely, considering her powers.
It came off as wishful thinking to me, which struck me as acknowledgement.
First off, if you recognize that you're causing some paranoia, why would you throw a lynch vote at someone who questions it?
Secondly, you've played the game long enough with me to know that I lie. A lot. And sometimes when I'm breaking someone's balls, I'm trying to mislead the mafia. I won't say more, or I'll betray the whole point behind this, but I think you should be able to figure out what I'm doing here.
Fair enough, answer the ones that won't do that. Cmon now, you know I wouldn't want you to give the mafia a hitlist.
There's only one question that you've asked that I haven't answered. Unless I missed it, and that's the exact nature of my night ability. If I'm the cop and get misdirected, I think I'll have a way of knowing. If I'm a forensic cop and get misdirected, I think I'll have a way of knowing that too. If I'm a tracker, well, there are people I feel I can target that will tell me what I want to know.
If Mystique choses me to duplicate, well, I'm counting on another role to be able to ferret that out. Though I'd ask that even if I'm killed that they don't say anything until later in the game. When they can have a bigger effect.
turdburglar47
09/16/2007, 23:28
If Mystique choses me to duplicate, well, I'm counting on another role to be able to ferret that out. Though I'd ask that even if I'm killed that they don't say anything until later in the game. When they can have a bigger effect.
What? If someone figures out who Mystique is, you don't want them to tell anybody until they've had a field day messing with us?
What? If someone figures out who Mystique is, you don't want them to tell anybody until they've had a field day messing with us?
That actually DOES make sense. It's sometimes appropriate to find a Mafia member, and stay quiet about it, until you can see a pattern with how they associate with other posters. Also, targeting mystique at night would likely allow you to target the mafia's hit, and see their hitman. After a couple of nights, you'd likely have 2 or 3 mafia members' names.
It's kinda like fishing. Only not really at all.
CarlosMucha
09/17/2007, 00:02
why Kontrol sef proclaim again?
Just catching up...
It's so hard to distrust Thawmus, he's always a good guy thus far in all my Mafia games.
why Kontrol sef proclaim again?
Because he's pretty sure he's going to die tonight.
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 01:02
Just catching up...
It's so hard to distrust Thawmus, he's always a good guy thus far in all my Mafia games.
From my limited experience - and his admitting in this thread that he lies all the time (just as anyone in the game would) - he's more loquacious and convincing than he is necessarily trustworthy. It seems like a 'force of personality' thing.
Or he just knows how to play the dang game and I've only played once and only came up with a good strategy a week after I was killed. ;)
From my limited experience - and his admitting in this thread that he lies all the time (just as anyone in the game would) - he's more loquacious and convincing than he is necessarily trustworthy. It seems like a 'force of personality' thing.
Or he just knows how to play the dang game and I've only played once and only came up with a good strategy a week after I was killed. ;)
I have to go and look up "loquacious" now.
Damn you.
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 01:16
I have to go and look up "loquacious" now.
Damn you.
Mwa-ha-ha! VICTORY IS MINE!
So who we lynchin'? We can't twiddle our thumbs, because we'll get slaughtered.
I have no useful info to offer..
I like to hear at least solid arguement before I vote to lynch.
So far we have "Thawmus is acting like a rookie with his questions"
Not a hanging offense yet.
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 01:53
And we've got 'Kontrol roleclaiming this early is either a lie or a bad tactical maneuver.'
And sadly, the biggest talkers were all wiped out in the first round, which worries me. A town full of rookies with no idea what they're really doing isn't an appetizing prospect.
CarlosMucha
09/17/2007, 01:58
And we've got 'Kontrol roleclaiming this early is either a lie or a bad tactical maneuver.'
And sadly, the biggest talkers were all wiped out in the first round, which worries me. A town full of rookies with no idea what they're really doing isn't an appetizing prospect.
no give your hopes just yet.
the game is very early.
just a question for the people who have played a lot of games.
how many times the Mafia have win the games?
Antipathy
09/17/2007, 02:01
I believe the only time was when the Mafia won Peers' second game. And that wasn't even the original mafia.
CarlosMucha
09/17/2007, 02:10
I believe the only time was when the Mafia won Peers' second game. And that wasn't even the original mafia.
perfect. that don't sound soo bad then.
is clear what at least one expercience player is on the Mafia.
who have the list of "expercience" players on this game?
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 02:15
And how often have there been more than one Mafia operating in a game? I seem to note a lot of suspicion that that might happen, but I haven't seen it occur anywhere.
And how often have there been more than one Mafia operating in a game? I seem to note a lot of suspicion that that might happen, but I haven't seen it occur anywhere.
The Crisis game had it happen right of the bat, but in at least three others, there was a second mafia that sprout up in the middle of the game, and slowly drafted members behind the scenes.
Which happens to be what Antipathy mentioned before, about the game where the mafia won. It was a second mafia that we didn't even have a clue about.
CarlosMucha
09/17/2007, 02:24
I see the Crisis game, but when they have only one Mafia what role have soo many people?
I know there is a Don, a tracker a bloker, maybe a misdirection guy, but what about the others? what power they have as a standar? they just receive the orden to kill from the Don?
At this point no one is volunteering any info it seems like.
We have no obious leads...
Rokk and Jack's death show me that they targeted "pro" players.
ma_qu_e (or whoever) seemed like he took a bullet for another pro player.
We either no Lynch (which I have personal disdain for) or we randomly take someone out.
However, right now, there's not enough players to get a vote in, so let's wait til morning, and maybe somoene will pop up with some news.
Otherwise we pick someone who's thinking "let's take out the pros first".
theanalogkid
09/17/2007, 09:32
So, no new leads?
Iron Ham
09/17/2007, 09:41
The only lead we have is a suspicion of kontrol, simply because his suspect list was a list of good players...
theanalogkid
09/17/2007, 09:52
So should I be irratied I wasn't on the list of "good players" or happy to be flying under the radar?
CarlosMucha
09/17/2007, 09:52
we have to determinate 2 important things.
1- who we lynch today. (event if is random).
2- Kontrol is Mafia OR a not soo good player (for reveal himself).
Mafia can be using him to try to catch any defender or help in him.
Mafia can be very smart. first they take out the good players, second they "lost" a Mafia member "maybe" but they get info of who are our blokers/cop/protectors/role blokers etc on him. we will risk that and help Kontrol? or we will go in another route?
Did anyone find out who isn't Mafia?
Antipathy
09/17/2007, 10:05
Did anyone find out who isn't Mafia?
And why would you want people that have information-gaining abilities to roleclaim?
And why would you want people that have information-gaining abilities to roleclaim?
I'm not asking anyone to roleclaim... :noid:
However, I am asking for useful infromation, so that if we need to random lynch we can not lynch people who are known townies.
CarlosMucha
09/17/2007, 10:16
I just can't bealieve what somebody self proclaim himself without give the name of somebody to lynch. with all respect Kontrol, sorry if I offend you. is just I don't see a reason to do that.
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 10:26
well with nothing else to go on, I think we need to bait someone.
vote: Thawmus
kontrol role-claimed for no reason it seems. Someone mentioned you are always good in these games which seems like a dumb reason to assume you are good now. I want to hear more.
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 10:30
well with nothing else to go on, I think we need to bait someone.
vote: Thawmus
kontrol role-claimed for no reason it seems. Someone mentioned you are always good in these games which seems like a dumb reason to assume you are good now. I want to hear more.
that you was in reference to Thawmus
KitsuShel
09/17/2007, 10:38
Oh, geez, I didn't even know this one started. Let me read a bit and catch up.
:)
Antipathy
09/17/2007, 10:50
I'm not asking anyone to roleclaim... :noid:
However, I am asking for useful infromation, so that if we need to random lynch we can not lynch people who are known townies.
Yes you are.
If somebody states that so and so is good, then that implies they either
A. Can find information about someone
B. Is on a good-aligned team
which creates a hit list for the mafia.
well with nothing else to go on, I think we need to bait someone.
vote: Thawmus
kontrol role-claimed for no reason it seems. Someone mentioned you are always good in these games which seems like a dumb reason to assume you are good now. I want to hear more.
Well, I'm a lone townie, and even if there WAS someone to vouch for me, it's too dangerous for them to say so at this point, so I guess that's your prerogative.
I admit that I found Turtle's statement earlier to be a little strange as well.
I just can't bealieve what somebody self proclaim himself without give the name of somebody to lynch. with all respect Kontrol, sorry if I offend you. is just I don't see a reason to do that.
For once, I completely agree with Carlos.
JackAssterson
09/17/2007, 10:59
I have to go and look up "loquacious" now.
Damn you.
Means ya cram twenty doller words inta ten doller sayin's.
*spits into spitton*
Means ya cram twenty doller words inta ten doller sayin's.
*spits into spitton*
Do I really?? :nervous:
Yes you are.
If somebody states that so and so is good, then that implies they either
A. Can find information about someone
B. Is on a good-aligned team
which creates a hit list for the mafia.
Doesn't Mafia already have a hit list...
everyone but them? :cheeky:
Well, I'm a lone townie, and even if there WAS someone to vouch for me, it's too dangerous for them to say so at this point, so I guess that's your prerogative.
I admit that I found Turtle's statement earlier to be a little strange as well.
How it is anymore strange that anyone asking if they have any infromation on who Mafia is?
I'm not asking anyone to say who their character is, or what their power is.
(sigh)
Mafia already knows who the townies are, anyone but them.. we just don't know who the townies are.
JackAssterson
09/17/2007, 11:05
Do I really?? :nervous:
Oh, ya do fine. :p
How it is anymore strange that anyone asking if they have any infromation on who Mafia is?
I'm not asking anyone to say who their character is, or what their power is.
(sigh)
Mafia already knows who the townies are, anyone but them.. we just don't know who the townies are.
.......
Vote: TMNT99
Sure, they know who the townies are, but they don't know who has tracking abilities, and who has anti-kill abilities. You don't want the mafia knowing everything. It's a very bad strategy. Furthermore, all they have to do is lie when you have everyone roleclaim, and you've done absolutely nothing to help anyone.
Matter of fact, this line of reasoning is suspect enough for me today.
.......
Vote: TMNT99
Sure, they know who the townies are, but they don't know who has tracking abilities, and who has anti-kill abilities. You don't want the mafia knowing everything. It's a very bad strategy. Furthermore, all they have to do is lie when you have everyone roleclaim, and you've done absolutely nothing to help anyone.
Matter of fact, this line of reasoning is suspect enough for me today.
(sigh), I've never been mafia in any of my games. And I'm still not.
Vote: Thawmus
You're acting differently this game, and grasping at straws with me.
If I have to I can role-claim, and someone came in my room last night, and can verify it as well.
However, I don't want to role-claim if I don't have to.
So should I be irratied I wasn't on the list of "good players" or happy to be flying under the radar?
always be happy to fly under the radar.
theanalogkid
09/17/2007, 11:18
Flying with a smile on my face, then.
(sigh), I've never been mafia in any of my games. And I'm still not.
Vote: Thawmus
See, that's the thing that's bugging some of us. Our roles in past games have absolutely no meaning in this one.
You're acting differently this game, and grasping at straws with me.
I can confirm that I'm acting differently than usual. It has a lot to do with my role. Suffice to say, I have a direct interest in having us win sooner, rather than later. Which makes me ultra-super paranoid about everything.
If I have to I can role-claim, and someone came in my room last night, and can verify it as well.
Fair enough, I'd prefer they stay in the shadows.
Vote change: Nobody
However, I don't want to role-claim if I don't have to.
I don't want you to role-claim unless you have to.
Flying with a smile on my face, then.
Seriously, look at what I get for being on the "pro" list..... :ermm:
Some people don't even realize how terrible I am at this game. :confused:
theanalogkid
09/17/2007, 11:24
You made it through the first night, Thawmus. That's a good thing.
theanalogkid
09/17/2007, 11:27
And I must say that while people's past roles have nothing to do with any current game they are in, their past performances IN those roles do.
You made it through the first night, Thawmus. That's a good thing.
Only to get lynched the next day for being a "good player". :sleep:
I just can't bealieve what somebody self proclaim himself without give the name of somebody to lynch. with all respect Kontrol, sorry if I offend you. is just I don't see a reason to do that.
No offense taken. I really didn't want to do this, but sometimes you have to paint an amazingly tempting target, to get things done.
Besides the fact that, I was targeted to be killed last night, but was only saved by a bodyguard. The write up makes it plain as day to the killer that they missed the person they were going for. I'm trying to give various townies information and possible courses of action that will help them in the very likely event that I'm dead after night 2. I'm hoping other roles know what to do. I don't want to tell them. And to the doctor if you're still out there, use your discretion as to whether you want to target me or not.
And I must say that while people's past roles have nothing to do with any current game they are in, their past performances IN those roles do.
That's definitely true. Which is why Kontrol's actions thus far have me leery.
The thing is, though, that a different role can force a completely different strategy on you.
For example, in Iron Ham's mafia, I had a doctor role, and pretty much kept my mouth shut the whole game (for once...).
And to the doctor if you're still out there, use your discretion as to whether you want to target me or not.
Uh, if you're the tracker, I want any remaining doctor to be protecting you.
If I'm a roleclaimed tracker, I want any remaining doctor to be protecting ME.
Could you throw us a few more curveballs today? :ermm:
Flying with a smile on my face, then.
Just to let you know, it's not that I don't think you were a good player. I just had to narrow the list down to a top 3, with a fourth suspect.
As the game progresses I'll see if my list was good or not.
CarlosMucha
09/17/2007, 11:34
No offense taken. I really didn't want to do this, but sometimes you have to paint an amazingly tempting target, to get things done.
Besides the fact that, I was targeted to be killed last night, but was only saved by a bodyguard. The write up makes it plain as day to the killer that they missed the person they were going for. I'm trying to give various townies information and possible courses of action that will help them in the very likely event that I'm dead after night 2. I'm hoping other roles know what to do. I don't want to tell them. And to the doctor if you're still out there, use your discretion as to whether you want to target me or not.
you say what you are sacrifice yourself to others get info?
if you role is that no important in the game I can undestend BUT if you are important you should made that believe, because if you say what you are already a target for the Mafia you my by night kill, but if we don't believe you we may lynch you.
and I think people are not talkig because we lost our Kitty doctor, but if we don't lynch it can be worst.
The Vision
09/17/2007, 11:39
I'm basing my vote on nothing other that the idea than St-Dumas wants to play with our heads.
[Vote: Magnito]
How can a guy with a name like that not be given the Magneto roll?
Doombot 3.1
09/17/2007, 11:39
Holy ####! I don't check in on Sunday, and there's 10 pages of stuff to read! :eek:
I don't have any new information, but regarding kontrol's early roleclaiming, it makes some sense for a cop to roleclaim early. That signals the doctor who he needs to protect. Having played the doctor a few times, the hardest part of the role is figuring out who to protect. I don't know whether kontrol really is Wolverine, or whether our doctor ought to protect him, or even if we still have a doctor (with poor Kitty's untimely demise). I'm just saying that I don't think kontrol's strategy is necessarily a bad one, if he is who he says he is.
The Vision
09/17/2007, 11:40
Darn, forgot to bold it.
Vote: Magnito
Uh, if you're the tracker, I want any remaining doctor to be protecting you.
If I'm a roleclaimed tracker, I want any remaining doctor to be protecting ME.
Could you throw us a few more curveballs today? :ermm:
I'll put it a different way.
There are a couple people that I'm pretty sure are going to target me tonight. I'm making a huge leap of logic here in what roles I think are in the game. These roles have been in just about every game so far so I think it's a safe bet that they're in here too. If the doctor does choose me and I still die, I'd like that certain roles to be quiet about who killed me until they can determine just who the doctor is. Immediately giving a list of people that targeted me on Night one or night two, if the doctor is in it would give the mafia a list of people that can hurt them. Do I want the doctor to stick to me like glue? You bet. I just don't want them to get outed by doing so. Thus using their discretion in targeting me.
I'll put it a different way.
There are a couple people that I'm pretty sure are going to target me tonight. I'm making a huge leap of logic here in what roles I think are in the game. These roles have been in just about every game so far so I think it's a safe bet that they're in here too. If the doctor does choose me and I still die, I'd like that certain roles to be quiet about who killed me until they can determine just who the doctor is. Immediately giving a list of people that targeted me on Night one or night two, if the doctor is in it would give the mafia a list of people that can hurt them. Do I want the doctor to stick to me like glue? You bet. I just don't want them to get outed by doing so. Thus using their discretion in targeting me.
That makes sense to a point. I think you're forgetting a few vital things in that hypothesis, but it's best not to talk about them.
CarlosMucha
09/17/2007, 11:44
give your list of suspects Kontrol.
if you get kill, and you are a good guy we will trust you, and/or we will trush you today and lynch somebody from your list.
if that person turn to be a good guy you will be in problems tomorrow but you will survive today to see the sunrise.
That makes sense to a point. I think you're forgetting a few vital things in that hypothesis, but it's best not to talk about them.
I know. Some things I don't want to say for fear of giving the Mafia too much. I'm not sure I haven't already.
theanalogkid
09/17/2007, 11:48
If your hypothesis of vets being in the Mafia is true, then I think they have a road map already.
Darn, forgot to bold it.
Vote: Magnito
Um...what? You want to lynch me for my user name?
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 11:54
Seriously, look at what I get for being on the "pro" list..... :ermm:
Some people don't even realize how terrible I am at this game. :confused:
I am willing to no lynch for now. I have a thought that I must keep to myself for now. If I am right though I will point my finger again.
lynch vote: none
give your list of suspects Kontrol.
if you get kill, and you are a good guy we will trust you, and/or we will trush you today and lynch somebody from your list.
if that person turn to be a good guy you will be in problems tomorrow but you will survive today to see the sunrise.
And with that, I guess we can expect if they're not on that list, they'll kill him tonight for sure.
Stuff like this does not help us.
CarlosMucha
09/17/2007, 12:02
And with that, I guess we can expect if they're not on that list, they'll kill him tonight for sure.
Stuff like this does not help us.
interesting. well. I will :speechles now. :p
The Vision
09/17/2007, 12:12
Um...what? You want to lynch me for my user name?
Dude,
I got nothing.
Seems like as good a chance as any.
The Vision
09/17/2007, 12:13
Um...what? You want to lynch me for my user name?
Of course if anyone had any information, I'd jump at the chance to make a more likely vote.
Dude,
I got nothing.
Seems like as good a chance as any.
You have an Avengers character in your avatar.
Vote: Vision
I think that St-Dumas might throw us a curveball and actually have Magnito be Magneto. Because it's unlikely due to his username it'd be the concept of "hiding in plain sight".
The Vision
09/17/2007, 12:23
You have an Avengers character in your avatar.
Vote: Vision
LOL. The Avengers are out to destroy the X-Men.
Touche.
DarkCorsair
09/17/2007, 12:25
LOL. The Avengers are out to destroy the X-Men.
Touche.
Well, I do seem to recall Vision being part of the destruction of another famous mansion and its resident team of heroes....
;)
I think that St-Dumas might throw us a curveball and actually have Magnito be Magneto. Because it's unlikely due to his username it'd be the concept of "hiding in plain sight".
.......um, okay. Forget the fact that the roles are handed out randomly...
Alright folks, let's get a lynching done before 12:00.
I say we lynch someone who's sitting in the back playing with his legos.
Vote: Sheanao....or whatever.
The Vision
09/17/2007, 12:30
.......um, okay. Forget the fact that the roles are handed out randomly...
Is it completely random?? Totally?? or can human nature influence it abit?
Or someone can come up with some real information and I'll change my vote.
Alright folks, let's get a lynching done before 12:00.
I say we lynch someone who's sitting in the back playing with his legos.
Vote: Sheanao....or whatever.
Vote: Shaonao
Is it completely random?? Totally?? or can human nature influence it abit?
Or someone can come up with some real information and I'll change my vote.
How about this? I'd rather get rid of a quiet member that isn't conversing, discussing, or voting, rather than someone that's actively doing those three things.
The Vision
09/17/2007, 12:31
Change Vote: Scheaono
Silence is as good a reason for a vote as anything else.
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 12:36
Well, it seems like a bunch of us were late to the party and missed the whole first day and night, so we're short on information that maybe we would've had.
Trouble is, I don't know if we can afford to not lynch someone, with the amount of carnage that's been racked up already... what's our deadline to decide?
DarkCorsair
09/17/2007, 12:40
Well, it seems like a bunch of us were late to the party and missed the whole first day and night, so we're short on information that maybe we would've had.
Trouble is, I don't know if we can afford to not lynch someone, with the amount of carnage that's been racked up already... what's our deadline to decide?
St-Dumas has been working on Pacific ST, so his Day 1 post said it would last until 12:00 noon. I assume that is PST, so 4 pm EST, and you can adjust for whatever other timezone you might be operating in.
DarkCorsair
09/17/2007, 12:46
St-Dumas has been working on Pacific ST, so his Day 1 post said it would last until 12:00 noon. I assume that is PST, so 4 pm EST, and you can adjust for whatever other timezone you might be operating in.
Sorry, my math skills are weak. 3:00 pm EST. I'm good at these time zone things... :nervous:
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 12:49
Gotcha. My only fear about lynching someone quiet is that maybe they were like me or Shel, and haven't even realized the game started yet.
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 12:49
Hilarious double post accident.
But hey, let's do it to get something done.
Vote: Scheaono
Doombot 3.1
09/17/2007, 12:51
If we're going to use the lynch vote to interrogate people, I guess it makes sense to start with people who aren't talking. Also, the hypothesis that the mafia includes at least 1 experienced player seems sound to me. Scehaono fits both criteria: He hasn't posted, and he's been in a few of these games.
VOTE: Scehaono
However, I didn't log on for Sunday, and had to catch up with 10 pages or so of posts. I don't know what Scehaono's situation is, but I hope he sees this in time to defend himself.
I'm still learning how to play these. This is my second.
But Doombot 3.1 makes a good case I suppose.
Vote: Scehaono
DarkCorsair
09/17/2007, 12:55
Well, I hope this will draw more people into the conversation, at least.
VOTE: Scehaono
scehaono
09/17/2007, 12:55
woah
what the...sorry everyone, i was under the impression that this thread would start today...(i guess i just assumed it would be the same as sstral's star trek mafia)
to be frank, i didn't even put in targets for the first night phase...
vicious x
09/17/2007, 12:57
And I must say that while people's past roles have nothing to do with any current game they are in, their past performances IN those roles do.
well this explains why I'm on Kontrols suspect list, huh. in two of the three games that I played with him. I killed him twice ;)
buuuuuut you have to give me credit, the most recent game he was mafia and in the other game I was a psycho killer. in both games I sniffed out the mafia with out anyones help. 1st game I lead to 3 mafia members deaths out of 4 nights before I went all psycho and started to kill everyone. and in my last game I was one for one, would have been two for two (most likely would have killed a mafia member in my 3 and 4th night too) but I was lynched :(
this game I don't have kill powers but I will my ablilities to help us out.
now let me catch up with the rest of the post :confused:
vicious x
09/17/2007, 13:05
Vote: Scehaono
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 13:08
ChangeVote: No lynch
Just as I thought. Scheaono was only quiet because of the 'what the ####, it started on a weekend?' issue.
Amora's_best_friend
09/17/2007, 13:11
*Arrives late*
If Scehaono isn't Mafia, I'll be really angry...
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 13:14
So who else has been quiet? Let's lynch anyone who's quiet until they speak up! Has biz567 said anything yet?
Antipathy
09/17/2007, 13:15
Vote: Thawmus
Thawmus has been acting like he has in the other games I have played with him, which TMNT noted he was good in. I think this time he's evil, and is having trouble with that.
Plus, he took out his vote for TMNT right after TMNT threatened to roleclaim. Possible distancing tactic? One votes for another, so nobody associates them as teammates?
Antipathy
09/17/2007, 13:16
Vote: Thawmus
Thawmus has been acting like he has in the other games I have played with him, which TMNT noted he was good in. I think this time he's evil, and is having trouble with that.
Plus, he took out his vote for TMNT right after TMNT threatened to roleclaim. Possible distancing tactic? One votes for another, so nobody associates them as teammates?
That's supposed to say "Thawmus has not been acting like he has in other games."
scehaono
09/17/2007, 13:21
i don't think anyone should be lynched for 'being quiet' for another couple of hours...just because they might be in the same boat as me, and not get a chance to defend themselves until a little later on
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 13:24
i don't think anyone should be lynched for 'being quiet' for another couple of hours...just because they might be in the same boat as me, and not get a chance to defend themselves until a little later on
So, you have any other thoughts on what's been cookin' so far?
scehaono
09/17/2007, 13:26
still trying to sift through, and get a handle on things...just saw the most recent page of 'lynch scehaono' and read that first
KitsuShel
09/17/2007, 13:33
i don't think anyone should be lynched for 'being quiet' for another couple of hours...just because they might be in the same boat as me, and not get a chance to defend themselves until a little later on
I agree, I won't be on much today until this evening today. We're heading in a couple of moments actually, to meet my son's teacher. :)
We took him to Strasburgh, PA yesterday to see Thomas the Tank Engine in real-life. It was awesome, but I wasn't on except yesterday morning.
Now, we should be suspect of those are are chronically quiet. They don't help matters at all.
The Vision
09/17/2007, 13:36
Change Vote: Thawmus
Based on TMNT and Antipathy's logic.
Change Vote: Thawmus
Gotta lynch somebody. Not really. But kinda.
DarkCorsair
09/17/2007, 13:42
Well, Scehaono is back in the conversation, so I can't maintain a vote for him, but I'm not convinced of anyone's particular guilt yet. I will:
Change Vote: No Lynch
until something more concrete comes along. I hate to not get anyone, but I'd rather not string up a townie more than I'd like to randomly bag the mafia.
Antipathy
09/17/2007, 13:44
Well, Scehaono is back in the conversation, so I can't maintain a vote for him, but I'm not convinced of anyone's particular guilt yet. I will:
Change Vote: No Lynch
until something more concrete comes along. I hate to not get anyone, but I'd rather not string up a townie more than I'd like to randomly bag the mafia.
We have 2 hours and 15 minutes to lynch somebody.
Iron Ham
09/17/2007, 13:45
Vote: Thawmus.
Sorry, We have nothing to go on and it seems to be a good idea.
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 13:47
I do likes me a lynchin'
Vote: Thawmus
Although it'll suck if he's got some cool power.
scehaono
09/17/2007, 13:49
hmmm, for me so far, the two most incriminating players are thaw and kontrol (of those that have spoken)..though i do agree that if we have to take a chance, might as well be one of them
lynch vote: thawmus
vicious x
09/17/2007, 13:49
so no leads?
vote thawmus
The Vision
09/17/2007, 13:56
7 votes so far.
Iron Ham
09/17/2007, 13:59
7 votes so far.
How many votes do we need?
Antipathy
09/17/2007, 14:00
We need 11 votes.
vicious x
09/17/2007, 14:09
so there is a theory that tmnt and thawmus are teammates?
Did anyone find out who isn't Mafia?
this doesn't sit well,... asking who roleclaimed,...
scehaono
09/17/2007, 14:14
i think he meant that if we did target someone that was known to be a townie, that someone should speak up
vicious x
09/17/2007, 14:22
i think he meant that if we did target someone that was known to be a townie, that someone should speak up
oh, okay,...
well I am going to change my vote to no lynch for the moment, two reasons.
1. the mafia is taking out our better players. we shouldn't help out by lynching the guys that they didn't target.
2. I want thawmus to say something
does anyone have solid information??? besides kontrols list of good players??? :confused:
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 14:25
Well, if we take out all the good players, and it leaves the rest of us rookies fumbling around on equal footing?
Iron Ham
09/17/2007, 14:26
Well, if we take out all the good players, and it leaves the rest of us rookies fumbling around on equal footing?
And if the good players happen to have important roles? :tired:
Change Vote: Nobody
So what time zone is this day phase ending in??
It's 12:30 where I am. It'd be nice to know how much time we really have left.
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 14:40
And if the good players happen to have important roles? :tired:
or it will leave the most expierenced in the mafia roles to confuse the newbies and pluck through them like chickens
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 14:41
pluck...chickens...
I really didn't mean to make the pun...wish I could edit it out;)
Well, if we take out all the good players, and it leaves the rest of us rookies fumbling around on equal footing?
Then we'll be doing exactly what the mafia is trying to do???
I don't know if you read Kontrol's post from earlier, but that's obviously the mafia's MO at this point.
Which is, again, why I don't like his reasoning that the mafia is made up of veterans. Veterans wouldn't be dumb enough to put themselves in the spotlight like that. Speaking personally, I'm not dumb enough to put myself in the spotlight like that.
...although I am pretty dumb.... :(
In any case, I think lynching veterans, when the mafia is already killing veterans, is just assisting the mafia's agenda at this point. Sure, I have a direct interest in saying as much, but that's an indisputable observation, that enough people are missing here for me to start my list.
And now that we have a tracker who's sure he's going to die, and we might be out of our protector roles, we're going to get rid of one of the veterans the mafia is likely going to try to kill tonight anyways?
Hell, I welcome the votes. So long as I don't actually get lynched, the mafia probably won't bother trying to kill me tonight, since everyone thinks I'm mafia just for being me.
I also find it odd that one person says I'm acting out of place, and another says I'm acting just like I always do......
St-Dumas
09/17/2007, 14:52
Current vote tally:
Thawus: 9 (kontrol, TMNT99, Antipathy, The Vision, bamf!, Iron Ham, turdburglar47, scehaono)
scehaono: 2 (Thawmus, Doombot 3.1)
No lynch: 3 (RCricket55, DarkCorsair, vicious_x)
Current vote tally:
Thawus: 9 (kontrol, TMNT99, Antipathy, The Vision, bamf!, Iron Ham, turdburglar47, scehaono)
scehaono: 2 (Thawmus, Doombot 3.1)
No lynch: 3 (RCricket55, DarkCorsair, vicious_x)
I switched mine to nobody.
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 14:56
And now that we have a tracker who's sure he's going to die, and we might be out of our protector roles, we're going to get rid of one of the veterans the mafia is likely going to try to kill tonight anyways?
I was a little behind, so in catch up I missed this. Was this kontrol's role-claim?
St-Dumas
09/17/2007, 14:58
Current vote tally:
Thawus: 9 (kontrol, TMNT99, Antipathy, The Vision, bamf!, Iron Ham, turdburglar47, scehaono)
scehaono: 1 (Doombot 3.1)
No lynch: 4 (RCricket55, DarkCorsair, vicious_x, Thawmus)
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 14:58
Yeah. kontrol claimed he was Wolverine, and says he roleclaimed specifically to get the doctor's protection for tonight.
Wow, I got 9 votes? Just like that?
Boy, I must be mafia since I'm getting lynched faster than a speeding bullet? :rolleyes:
St-Dumas
09/17/2007, 15:01
You still need two more.
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 15:04
It's nothing personal for me, Thawmus. We've got nothing to go on, and three more of us will likely die in the night if we don't take some kind of action. It's a crapshoot, but hey, lynch mobs are not known for their logic.
So I still haven't heard when 12:00 is?
Nor why I'm getting lynched, for that matter, when it completely fits the mafia's agenda? :rolleyes:
St-Dumas
09/17/2007, 15:09
12 my time is in 52 minutes. You have that long to be saved or killed.
Doombot 3.1
09/17/2007, 15:09
So I still haven't heard when 12:00 is?
Nor why I'm getting lynched, for that matter, when it completely fits the mafia's agenda? :rolleyes:
I believe St-Dumas is on PST, so it would be a little less from an hour right now (2:08 EST).
scehaono
09/17/2007, 15:10
i didn't realize how fast the lynch thawmus bandwagon got jumped...which makes me think two things:
a) you're not mafia, and the mafia is trying to get a quick neutral/good kill
b) you are mafia, and they're killing you to save their own hides
Got 52 minutes to turn a vote around and lynch SOMEONE.......
I don't think I can pull that off.
I certainly can't roleclaim, even under pain of death, because....well.....I can't say. But suffice to say, if the mafia ever finds out something about me, it's going to be bad for everyone.
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 15:11
Y'know, you're right.
Vote: Scheaono.
He's had time to catch up, and he's STILL QUIET.
i didn't realize how fast the lynch thawmus bandwagon got jumped...which makes me think two things:
a) you're not mafia, and the mafia is trying to get a quick neutral/good kill
b) you are mafia, and they're killing you to save their own hides
Here's exactly what's happening:
"ooh, everyone's suspecting Thawmus, and he's a vet! We can kill two birds with one stone!"
And some of the veteran players like Kontrol and Antipathy not SEEING that is suspect enough to me.
scehaono
09/17/2007, 15:13
...well, i guess reading up before class now makes me a mafioso
however, i will follow thawmus' lead and change my vote:
change vote: no lynch
Amora's_best_friend
09/17/2007, 15:14
*Strides in and slams a folder onto the table*
Spill the beans, or don't.
Either way, you'll die in 7 days.
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 15:14
Strike that, there's Scehaono.
So how the hell isn't JackAssterton not talking?
FISHY!
Vote JackAssterton.
Y'know, you're right.
Vote: Scheaono.
He's had time to catch up, and he's STILL QUIET.
Actually, he is posting now.
It's monday afternoon, man.
*Strides in and slams a folder onto the table*
Spill the beans, or don't.
Either way, you'll die in 7 days.
Well....given the trend in mafia games, that's true for everyone. :tired:
scehaono
09/17/2007, 15:16
and i have to go to class now, i'll leave my vote as is, and hope things work out for the best
Strike that, there's Scehaono.
So how the hell isn't JackAssterton not talking?
FISHY!
Vote JackAssterton.
Wait, so we're going to go after ANOTHER veteran, right along with the mafia's agenda? Did we not talk about this already????
Vote: Turdburglar47
Amora's_best_friend
09/17/2007, 15:17
Well....given the trend in mafia games, that's true for everyone. :tired:
Yeah, I know. I was just trying to give the game some dramatic flavour.
theanalogkid
09/17/2007, 15:18
I think that Thawmus is on the up and up. However, I don't have a concrete alternative.
Vote: Nobody
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 15:18
*Strides in and slams a folder onto the table*
Spill the beans, or don't.
Either way, you'll die in 7 days.
Oh god, is this Abigail Brand with some more Breakworld prophecies? The Big Russkie is already dead! Died doing what he loved... which was taking the hit for Wolverine? I thought he loved painting and banging Savage Land chicks..
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 15:19
Wait, so we're going to go after ANOTHER veteran, right along with the mafia's agenda? Did we not talk about this already????
Vote: Turdburglar47
No I'm going with the 'lynch the quiet guys' M.O. - didn't you pioneer that one?
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 15:19
Strike that, there's Scehaono.
So how the hell isn't JackAssterton not talking?
FISHY!
Vote JackAssterton.
wasn't Jack killed??
Yeah, I know. I was just trying to give the game some dramatic flavour.
*slams hands down on table, and then points finger at ABF*
OBJECTION!!!!
Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!!
Yar Har fiddle dee dee, being a pirate is alright with me, do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!!!
You are a Pirate!
Yay!
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 15:20
JackofHearts was killed. JackAssterton is still around.
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 15:20
wasn't Jack killed??
JOH...
I agree JA isn't normally this quiet.
No I'm going with the 'lynch the quiet guys' M.O. - didn't you pioneer that one?
Damn, you got me there.
Vote: Nobody
I hate these first few days, I have no freakin' clue where to go with my voting.
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 15:22
Wait, so we're going to go after ANOTHER veteran, right along with the mafia's agenda? Did we not talk about this already????
Vote: Turdburglar47
you are gonna vote for him that quick because he is following everyone else's theory of quiet people??
I must agree the quick finger back isn't like you Thawmus 9at least as a good character). If you make it through the night I believe you will have a tough time convincing the mob of your innocence tomorrow.
you are gonna vote for him that quick because he is following everyone else's theory of quiet people??
I must agree the quick finger back isn't like you Thawmus 9at least as a good character). If you make it through the night I believe you will have a tough time convincing the mob of your innocence tomorrow.
I think that's a pretty big IF, if Kontrol is right. Then again, I'll probably survive just because of that.
And my first few days are always like this. I have no clue where I'm going with anything.
Amora's_best_friend
09/17/2007, 15:24
Thawmus seems to be voting terribly erratically, and since I'm no good at this lynching buisness I have no idea what that means.
I'll vote for Thawmus, for a joke.
Either way, we'll all die in 7 days.
Thawmus seems to be voting terribly erratically, and since I'm no good at this lynching buisness I have no idea what that means.
I'll vote for Thawmus, for a joke.
Either way, we'll all die in 7 days.
Even after I sang a song about you being a pirate, and being free????
Vote: ABF
I am damn serious. :angry:
Amora's_best_friend
09/17/2007, 15:29
Even after I sang a song about you being a pirate, and being free????
Vote: ABF
I am damn serious. :angry:
God, someone obviously didn't get the joke.
I'll change my vote to turdburglar for a laugh.
/ I'll just say No Lynch, since I have no idea who is evil, and it's stupid taking a pot-shot.
God, someone obviously didn't get the joke.
I'll change my vote to turdburglar for a laugh.
/ I'll just say No Lynch, since I have no idea who is evil, and it's stupid taking a pot-shot.
I hate squirrels.
Vote: Squirrels
turdburglar47
09/17/2007, 15:33
Oh yeah. ABF got Jason Todd rekilled. I should shake my fist!
So, is ABF supposed to be Destiny? Or is this more JOKESTERISM?
RCricket55
09/17/2007, 15:33
I think that's a pretty big IF, if Kontrol is right. Then again, I'll probably survive just because of that.
And my first few days are always like this. I have no clue where I'm going with anything.
Then maybe I am helping you...maybe not. Kontrol should follow you tonight. If you both survive the night we'll have our answer. If one or both of you dies we won't. I do believe there is a big cloud over you in a few peoples eyes. As I mentioned you are a big target if you survive the night, so the mafia would be better off taking someone else out, and hoping the mob to lynch you tomorrow. I haven't made up my mind, which is why I am not voting for you, but this way we have a chance to figure it out.
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