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St-Dumas
10/09/2007, 21:59
Welcome to the newest installment of HCRealms Mafia, based on the heroes and mostly villains of the DCU! We will be using standard rules, found here (http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page), as well as the following house rules:

1) When posting lynch votes, please do so in bold.
2) You are not allowed to edit posts. It's cheating.
3) No posting after you are dead.
4) Unless your role says otherwise, you may NOT PM other people in the game.
5) While this is not required, I would prefer if you PM'd me to say that you weren't using your night power.
6) Do not be excessively rude to the other players. It's just not cool.
7) Expect anything.
8) Have fun!

Roles are currently being sent out

Current Players (29):

Jackofhearts2005
Antipathy
JackAssterson
turdburglar47
NAES72
The Vision
bamf!
vicious x
Rokk_Krinn
KitsuShel
Amora's_best_friend
Ross...
CurBludgeon
biz567
DarkCorsair
charlesx
CarlosMucha
DocDoom187
Doombot 3.1
kontrol
The BoyBlunder
KaineMak
deathstroke1134
thepunisher27
Thawmus
CrusaderC
TMNT99
MSU
Magnito

WRITEUPS:

Day One: (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3028203&postcount=10)

Night One: (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3030923&postcount=16)

Day Two: (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3034058&postcount=379)

Night Two: (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3040405&postcount=383)

Day Three: (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3041512&postcount=523)

Night Three: (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3043412&postcount=524)

DocDoom187
10/09/2007, 22:02
First postage

Rokk_Krinn
10/09/2007, 22:10
You know, for once I want to be EEEVIL and you know I'm going to end up Good. :p

NAES72
10/09/2007, 22:23
best of luck you all

vicious x
10/09/2007, 22:31
:laugh: :bolt: :g-starburst: :laugh:

KaineMak
10/09/2007, 22:41
:a-fist: :cool: :a-fist:

CarlosMucha
10/09/2007, 22:42
the thread is up already! woooho!

The BoyBlunder
10/09/2007, 22:43
I shall try not to newb it up.

Thawmus
10/09/2007, 22:53
I shall try not to newb it up.
Oh, so you think you'll earn bonus points just for being a newbie, huh?

Lynch Vote: BoyBlunder




(Yeah, I'm kidding.)

St-Dumas
10/09/2007, 22:54
All roles have been sent out. The game has begun.

Miscreants, Lawbreakers, Bad Guys; at the end of the day, they were villains. They had been organized by a great mind and gathered in a central location: The new headquarters of the Secret Society of Super Villains.

Coming into the main room, the villains were interrupted by a familiar white face wearing an evil grin.

"Hello, baddies!" He said in a mocking voice. "It's your old pal Joker, with a friendly little message. For some reason, I wasn't invited to this little criminal party. Shocking, I know. So I talked it over with my old pal Lexie and we came to an agreement, didn't we Lexie?"

Joker hoisted up the paralyzed body of their leader, Lex Luthor, with a sickening grin on his face and panic showing in his green eyes.

"Enough pleasantries. Here's the deal: I've put a new, special gas in the air conditioning. You've been breathing it in for the last half an hour. It's erasing your memory; not 100%, but enough to forget who each other is. And that's not all: I've called in a few good guys to see if they like what's going on here. But don't worry, they've been forgetful too...but they still know enough to bring you guys in. And me? I'll just be watching from my hidey hole as you tear each other apart from your own paranoia.

"The game will begin when I fire this gun." The Joker pulled out a revolver and pointed it at Lex Luthor's frightened head and laughed maniacally as he pulled the trigger.

* * *

St-Dumas is dead. He was Lex Luthor, Bald Billionaire and mastermind behind the villain's first union.

Night One has begun and will end Wednesday at 8:00 PM, PST

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 00:08
*yawns, stretches, tries to come to life*

Magnito
10/11/2007, 00:10
No Lynch

As always

TMNT99
10/11/2007, 00:13
I would hope someone has some info, we did have a night phase correct?

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 00:15
We did. Waiting for the write-up. :)

Magnito
10/11/2007, 00:17
We had a night phase? Really? Oh, then

Withdraw vote

St-Dumas
10/11/2007, 00:27
Night One is over.

The Joker's ultimatum had left the Society uneasy. Which heroes had infiltrated them? Would their memories ever actually return? And didi anyone have any idea what the other villains were up to?

The night began with one of the Society's frontrunners, checking one of the rooms. Unfortunately, he was quickly caught in a bear hug by someone far stronger than him. The investigator struggled in vain to be released.

"Don't try it Wilson." A man in an orange costume appeared from the shadows. "You won't get far."

"You." Wilson said in disgust. "What is scum like you doing here."

"I'm doing what we need to do, starting with you." The orange costumed man responded. Reaching for handhelf claws, he took away Wilson's remaining eye...as well as various other parts of his body.

* * *

In another part of the lair, a man in a red suit silently walked the halls, watching his target eagerly behind a golden mask. The target, a yellow suited man, was completely unaware of his stalker's presence. This mattered little, as the yellow suited man vanished before the eyes of his follower.

He reappeared in a different room, this one far nicer than his. It only made sense, considering the occupant, who grabbed the yellow suited man by the neck and effortlessly hoisted him into the air.

"I place my trust in Luthor's organization and he still feels the need to monitor me. How insulting."

The victim merely gasped for air before having his neck snapped.

"How's that for an insult?" The killer said as he threw the corpse out of his room.

* * *

Surprisingly, the most insane person in the building was not a villain, but considered himself a hero. What's stranger, he played by the book.

Dropping into the halls of the headquarters, he found a multicolored man eagerly awaiting something. It was easy for the madman to knock him unconcious from behind.

"I recognize you know." He said as he dragged the body away. "You're that one from the little antiheroes club. I remember what you did at that prison. You should go along with those other bad guys."

* * *

CurBludgeon is dead. He was Deathstroke, Master Mercenary and one of the Society's finest.
TMNT99 is dead. He was Warp, French Teleporter who stumbled into the wrong room.
KaineMak has been arrested. He was Metamorpho, Chemical Conjurer and member of the Outsiders.

Day 2 has begun and will end Thursday at 6:15 PM, PST.*

*I'm going on vacation tomorrow, so I might not have a opportunity to post. If I don't do it tomorrow, it'll probably be some time on Friday. Sorry for the inconvinience.

JackAssterson
10/11/2007, 00:29
Losing Deathstroke Night 1 = :(

St-Dumas
10/11/2007, 00:30
Jackofhearts2005
Antipathy
JackAssterson
turdburglar47
NAES72
The Vision
bamf!
vicious x
Rokk_Krinn
KitsuShel
Amora's_best_friend
Ross...
CurBludgeon
biz567
DarkCorsair
charlesx
CarlosMucha
DocDoom187
Doombot 3.1
kontrol
deathstroke1134
thepunisher27
Thawmus
CrusaderC
MSU
Magnito

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 00:32
Sounds like TMNT made a big mistake in targeting the wrong person.

I'm also jealous of whomever got the Psycho-Pirate.

Glad to see we got Metamorpho but it sounds like the Secret Six - man in orange suit (Cat-Man) and strong man (Parademon) - got to Deathstroke already. :( That implies Outsiders and Secret Six are both on the loose.

DarkCorsair
10/11/2007, 00:34
Okay, so looks like Deathstroke was a Mafia hit, role-blocked (by the big person) and killed by the orange costumed person. I'm very excited, though, by the prospect of Johnny Sorrow in part 2. Finally, I dunno if the madman is a serial killer or a vigilante, but that was an awesome stroke of luck for us townies.

biz567
10/11/2007, 00:35
"The man in red" Who is that?

DarkCorsair
10/11/2007, 00:35
I'm also jealous of whomever got the Psycho-Pirate.



Ah, could be PP and not Johnny. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

DarkCorsair
10/11/2007, 00:37
"The man in red" Who is that?

I think Rokk's right that its prolly Psycho Pirate, since as I think about it, Johnny Sorrow's mask is red.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 00:38
Ah, could be PP and not Johnny. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

I just went with Psycho-Pirate because, well, A) I'm a big fan of the character and B) he fits better with the Society but I can see why Johnny Sorrow would be a possible fit.

biz567
10/11/2007, 00:41
Oh. Figures, I don't know who that is(Heard of him of course!)

Antipathy
10/11/2007, 00:44
Glad to see we got Metamorpho but it sounds like the Secret Six - man in orange suit (Cat-Man) and strong man (Parademon) - got to Deathstroke already. :( That implies Outsiders and Secret Six are both on the loose.

So if that's true, then we have a good guy mafia who arrests, a Secret Six mafia who kills, and an Outsider mafia who were roleblocked?

Wow, that's a lot of baddies.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 00:47
So if that's true, then we have a good guy mafia who arrests, a Secret Six mafia who kills, and an Outsider mafia who were roleblocked?

Wow, that's a lot of baddies.

The arrester could be the equivalent of the Serial Killer (as outlaw Outsiders, villainous Society and criminal-merc Secret Six would all be "arrestable" in his eyes).

Oddly, I keep thinking of the Creeper reading the write-up.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 00:48
This is going to sound dumb but what about Shel? I mean, who else is likely to pick Kaine on the first night? :)

Antipathy
10/11/2007, 00:49
This is going to sound dumb but what about Shel? I mean, who else is likely to pick Kaine on the first night? :)

She must really hog that computer. :grin:

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 00:52
I was thinking Creeper, too. Could be a lone wolf.

The BoyBlunder
10/11/2007, 00:53
The arrester could be the equivalent of the Serial Killer (as outlaw Outsiders, villainous Society and criminal-merc Secret Six would all be "arrestable" in his eyes).

Oddly, I keep thinking of the Creeper reading the write-up.
Or Starman.

How is Metamorpho easy to knock out at all? That doesn't really seem in character.

CarlosMucha
10/11/2007, 00:55
I was thinking Creeper, too. Could be a lone wolf.


IT'S WORF! :mad:


:p

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 00:57
Or Starman.

How is Metamorpho easy to knock out at all? That doesn't really seem in character.

I don't see Starman as being a loner and I got the impression the crazy guy was solo.

As for Metamorpho being easy to KO, well, allowances have to be made for a Mafia game (e.g. - lynching the likes of, I dunno, Superman).

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 01:00
Yeah, and the fact that Deathstroke wouldn't just heal back from something Cat-Man could inflict. Some things ya gotta take with a grain o' salt.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 01:00
Hang on a second fellas.....

Two people were killed, and one was arrested.


So how exactly was it that the one guy who was arrested was a Hero?

The BoyBlunder
10/11/2007, 01:01
Yeah, and the fact that Deathstroke wouldn't just heal back from something Cat-Man could inflict. Some things ya gotta take with a grain o' salt.
I dount we could get Metamorpho to turn into sodium.

So, any leads?

Magnito
10/11/2007, 01:02
because they don't know each other? Two different groups of heroes, one arrests the other.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 01:09
because they don't know each other? Two different groups of heroes, one arrests the other.

I don't think so. I think we've already seen the presence of mafia 2, which is the Secret Six. And the Outsiders aren't completely above killing, torture, etc. these days.

Three possibilities come to mind:

1. The Serial Arrester idea.

2. There's a role-mimic out there.

3. His teammate got misdirected, and arrested him instead.

Out of the three options, considering his was the only arrest last night, and no mention of roleblocking can be found in the writeup, other than Deathstroke being roleblocked, I'm inclined to believe that #3 is the most valid choice. Now, before the misdirector comes out and informs us who a potential mafia member is, I'd like to see if anyone else follows this thinking and agrees with me. I don't want to be solely responsible for having a misdirector roleclaim this early.

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 01:15
This is going to sound dumb but what about Shel? I mean, who else is likely to pick Kaine on the first night? :)

I was wondering who would take him out, myself. :laugh:

The "arrester" though sounds like my role as Lockup. I was a bad guy who thought I was a good guy. Never got to try it though. Looks like it might be the case here as well.

She must really hog that computer. :grin:

:tired:



































:p

Yeah, I do. Its like my second child, dude. Plus, I think Shaun's much less technologically advanced than I am. :cool:

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 01:20
Hang on a second fellas.....

Two people were killed, and one was arrested.


So how exactly was it that the one guy who was arrested was a Hero?

Like I said, I took it that the arrester is an Indy and the Outsiders were seen as "outlaws" by him (as per-OYL).

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 01:23
Surprisingly, the most insane person in the building was not a villain, but considered himself a hero. What's stranger, he played by the book.

Dropping into the halls of the headquarters, he found a multicolored man eagerly awaiting something. It was easy for the madman to knock him unconcious from behind.

Bolded parts make me wonder. It seems that the person might not exactly be a hero, but just be crazy and think themselves a hero.

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 01:26
Bolded parts make me wonder. It seems that the person might not exactly be a hero, but just be crazy and think themselves a hero.

Creeper, maybe?

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 01:30
Creeper, maybe?


Yeah, Creeper would make a good 'serial hero' who can arrest other heroes.

So we've got Johnny Sorrow or Psycho-Pirate targeting TMNT99, and who killed him?

And Cat-Man killed Deathstroke?

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 01:33
Yeah, Creeper would make a good 'serial hero' who can arrest other heroes.

So we've got Johnny Sorrow or Psycho-Pirate targeting TMNT99, and who killed him?

And Cat-Man killed Deathstroke?

:nervous:

Just caught up with all of the posts. Didn't see Creeper mentioned already.

On another note, I always thought Catman's costume was more of a brown than an orange. :ermm:

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 01:36
I dunno. Brown and orange - most of the suit is orange, the cape, gloves and boots are brown, I think.

The Vision
10/11/2007, 02:08
I'm not back until 5:00pm MST tomorrow. I'll vote then. Don't lynch me for being late.

Jackofhearts2005
10/11/2007, 02:23
I'm still alive?

Awesome, I guess. :p

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 02:24
:nervous:

Just caught up with all of the posts. Didn't see Creeper mentioned already.

On another note, I always thought Catman's costume was more of a brown than an orange. :ermm:


Sure, I say Creeper and everyone goes "Pfah"; you say Creeper and everyone's on the lookout for him. ;)

Reading through the write-up, it looks like whomever TMNT wandered across is a member of the Society - based on what he says - but, uhm, did't take too kindly to the spying/intrusion.

CarlosMucha
10/11/2007, 02:33
I'm still alive?

Awesome, I guess. :p


I'm soo happy for you. really. you are the guy who more soon dies in each game and that is really unfair.

very happy for you! :grin:

Jackofhearts2005
10/11/2007, 02:36
Yeah, and the fact that Deathstroke wouldn't just heal back from something Cat-Man could inflict. Some things ya gotta take with a grain o' salt.
This story is probably being written by Gail Simon. :cheeky:

Jackofhearts2005
10/11/2007, 02:38
Reading through the write-up, it looks like whomever TMNT wandered across is a member of the Society - based on what he says - but, uhm, did't take too kindly to the spying/intrusion.
I agree. It was probably a person who kills whoever targets him.

I hope Warp wasn't some kind of tracker.
I'm soo happy for you. really. you are the guy who more soon dies in each game and that is really unfair.

very happy for you! :grin:
Thanks, buddy. I really like not dieing in mafia games. :laugh:

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 02:39
I hate to say it but it looks like the Society has lost two of its' investigators - Warp likely had the "investigate a room for its' contents" abilities and Deathstroke is outright mentioned as an investigator in the write-up...that's kind-of a hefty blow (fortunately Psycho-Pirate appears to have a bit of spying power but I doubt that's all considering the character).

You know, the more I think of it, the more I'm surprised Shel named the Creeper (especially if she hadn't read the posts yet); she just never struck me as a follower of the character. :) Throw in the fact that Kaine got taken out - when he's usually moderately ignored (when he shouldn't be) - and it is a bit curious. Then again, I freely admit I'm just tossing things around as I'm a bit stymied and hungry for a direction for us to try so don't read too much into this as a serious attempt on Shel.

Jackofhearts2005
10/11/2007, 02:40
Three possibilities come to mind:

1. The Serial Arrester idea.

2. There's a role-mimic out there.

3. His teammate got misdirected, and arrested him instead.

I'm inclined to believe that #3 is the most valid choice. Now, before the misdirector comes out and informs us who a potential mafia member is, I'd like to see if anyone else follows this thinking and agrees with me. I don't want to be solely responsible for having a misdirector roleclaim this early.
I don't agree.

"I recognize you know." He said as he dragged the body away. "You're that one from the little antiheroes club. I remember what you did at that prison. You should go along with those other bad guys."

1 or 2 are definately more likely, since the arrestor thinks that the Outsiders are worth arresting, which makes him not an Outsider.

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 02:47
I'm more worried that Warp would've been a doctor. Port in, grab a guy, port out before certain doom.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 03:32
I'm more worried that Warp would've been a doctor. Port in, grab a guy, port out before certain doom.

If that's the case, the guy is a lynch-only kill (and not one I advocate we lynch as he's obviously Society) as even a roleblocker targeting him is getting a neck-snap; not bad but it does make things risky for us as his teammates if we blunder into his path.

The BoyBlunder
10/11/2007, 03:59
If that's the case, the guy is a lynch-only kill (and not one I advocate we lynch as he's obviously Society) as even a roleblocker targeting him is getting a neck-snap; not bad but it does make things risky for us as his teammates if we blunder into his path.
Did someone say Blunder?!!!! I have no useful info, I'm just bored and can't sleep.

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 07:38
####. I didn't realise the game started at night, I assumed there was a day phase. :tired: :speechles


* * *

Surprisingly, the most insane person in the building was not a villain, but considered himself a hero. What's stranger, he played by the book.

Dropping into the halls of the headquarters, he found a multicolored man eagerly awaiting something. It was easy for the madman to knock him unconcious from behind.

"I recognize you know." He said as he dragged the body away. "You're that one from the little antiheroes club. I remember what you did at that prison. You should go along with those other bad guys."

* * *

Sounds like he featured in the Arkham game.

Red Hood fits the bill. He's an anti-hero / crazy killer who thinks he's doing good.

Ross...
10/11/2007, 07:58
IT'S WORF! :mad:


:p
who was dude in gold mask?

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 08:43
IT'S WORF! :mad:


:p
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Rep for Carlos!!!

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 09:02
You know, the more I think of it, the more I'm surprised Shel named the Creeper (especially if she hadn't read the posts yet); she just never struck me as a follower of the character. :) Throw in the fact that Kaine got taken out - when he's usually moderately ignored (when he shouldn't be) - and it is a bit curious. Then again, I freely admit I'm just tossing things around as I'm a bit stymied and hungry for a direction for us to try so don't read too much into this as a serious attempt on Shel.

I don't really know a ton about the character, but coincidentally, I had just read the Justice League cards earlier in the day and he was the only hero that struck me as a lunatic at the moment. I can honestly and sincerely say that it wasn't me who took out Kaine.


Sounds like he featured in the Arkham game.

Red Hood fits the bill. He's an anti-hero / crazy killer who thinks he's doing good.

I don't think so. Rex wasn't in the Arkham game. I'm willing to bet that the guy was talking about what happened when the Outsiders tried to break Black Lightning out of Iron Heights prison in one of their comics a few months back. Same issue where they show you how they accumulated Boomer, iirc.

charlesx
10/11/2007, 09:51
####. I didn't realise the game started at night, I assumed there was a day phase. :tired: :speechles

Same here. I should've read the intro post more carefully, I guess.

I think that the Creeper theory makes sense, but I don't know that I'd describe him as "playing by the book." It is interesting that he arrests and doesn't kill, however. Also, the "claws" on the guy that killed Deathstroke pretty much clinches that Cat-Man is in the game. Just like in the Villains United mini, the Secret Six are the antagonists, though they aren't strictly the "good guys", either.

Other than that, I don't have anything.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 10:09
I don't agree.

"I recognize you know." He said as he dragged the body away. "You're that one from the little antiheroes club. I remember what you did at that prison. You should go along with those other bad guys."

1 or 2 are definately more likely, since the arrestor thinks that the Outsiders are worth arresting, which makes him not an Outsider.

Here's my problem with that: If that's true, then the Outsiders didn't make an arrest last night.

Doombot 3.1
10/11/2007, 10:37
Here's my problem with that: If that's true, then the Outsiders didn't make an arrest last night.

Metamorpho is described by the write-up as "eagerly awaiting something." That indicates that he was lying in wait, probably for the Outsiders' intended arrest-target. The Outsiders didn't make an arrest because the Outsider don chose Metamorpho to make the arrest, and the madman got to Metamorpho before he could do so.

I don't see any evidence of a misdirector being involved in the madman/Metamorpho incident.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 10:37
Here's my problem with that: If that's true, then the Outsiders didn't make an arrest last night.


Maybe they waited to see how night one shaped up. Some people don't like lynching in the dark

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 10:42
Doombot, it stands to reason that Metamorpho would have still pulled off the arrest. I'm not aware of an arrest or kill preventing another arrest or kill in any previous games.

CrusaderC, mafia typically don't get a choice in the matter. We haven't run into a case yet where they're able to hold off on making an arrest or kill.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 10:45
####. I didn't realise the game started at night, I assumed there was a day phase. :tired: :speechles



Sounds like he featured in the Arkham game.

Red Hood fits the bill. He's an anti-hero / crazy killer who thinks he's doing good.

Red Hood doesn't "play by the book" nor would he have tried to keep a "villain" alive; he also wouldn't have had any qualms with the way the Outsiders were pretending to work and would have been the first to ask to join them, so, no, I'm not seeing Jason here.

Doombot 3.1
10/11/2007, 10:48
Doombot, it stands to reason that Metamorpho would have still pulled off the arrest. I'm not aware of an arrest or kill preventing another arrest or kill in any previous games.


I know of at least one case where something like that happened. Indeed, I was part of it. In the Harry Potter game on the first night, the Order of the Phoenix targeted Rokk for a night kill. I was to make the hit. Instead, I was killed, and Rokk escaped.

Furthermore, there's nothing in the write-up indicating that the madman was misdirected, and JoH has already made a convincing case that the madman is not an Outsider.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 10:49
Doombot, it stands to reason that Metamorpho would have still pulled off the arrest. I'm not aware of an arrest or kill preventing another arrest or kill in any previous games.

CrusaderC, mafia typically don't get a choice in the matter. We haven't run into a case yet where they're able to hold off on making an arrest or kill.

Both of those aren't quite accurate (trust me, I've been EEEVIL enough times to have some experience here. :) )

There are cases of priority coming into play, such as during the Arkham game when the Joker was taken out before he could remove his target.

The Mafia - especially a smaller Mafia as I'm guessing the Outsiders to be (it stands to reason the main antagonists here are the Secret Six)) - can always choose to not make a Night Kill in many games; I've seen (and used that option) more than once to drop suspicion. The first night though is far from a time to do that.

Crusader - Considering the Outsiders likely only care about keeping themselves in the game and stopping all the villains (probably including the Secret Six as villains here), they wouldn't be quite in the dark. Maybe not getting an optmal target or risking someone's powers but they wouldn't be getting a teammate so there would have been little reason for them not to choose a target; I think Doombot's on the right track here.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 11:00
There are cases of priority coming into play, such as during the Arkham game when the Joker was taken out before he could remove his target.

Wow, can't believe I forgot about that. You're right, it has happened before.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 11:01
In any case, who are we going to lynch today, folks? I'm assuming since we probably lost a cop and a tracker already, that we don't have any info after the first night.... :(

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 11:05
Warp seems to be a "hider"; what Iron Ham was in the Arkham game. If he hides in the room of an evil person he dies.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 11:07
Warp seems to be a "hider"; what Iron Ham was in the Arkham game. If he hides in the room of an evil person he dies.

....wow....after looking at it again, I think you're probably right. Considering the value of that role in the Arkham game, that's almost as bad as losing a Tracker.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 11:11
....wow....after looking at it again, I think you're probably right. Considering the value of that role in the Arkham game, that's almost as bad as losing a Tracker.

Re-look then because the guy actually says he's part of Luthor's group in the write-up. While I think Warp could have been a Tracker or a Doctor, I think the guy is pretty definitely a member of the Society based on his comments; could be wrong though as I'm not sure why he would have killed his own teammate (Psycho-Pirate's influence, maybe?)

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 11:12
Thawmus is making a lot more "distracting" mistakes than usual - such as saying the Mafia wouldn't have had a choice or missing the guy stating how he was a member of Luthor's group - and I'm just wondering if he got enough sleep? :noid:

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 11:18
Thawmus is making a lot more "distracting" mistakes than usual

Agreed.

- such as saying the Mafia wouldn't have had a choice

It's not something I've encountered before.

or missing the guy stating how he was a member of Luthor's group -

That part of the writeup is excessively confusing. There's no telling whether it was Warp, or the killer, that said this.

and I'm just wondering if he got enough sleep? :noid:

And the answer to that, of course, would be "no"......... :(

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 11:27
He reappeared in a different room, this one far nicer than his. It only made sense, considering the occupant, who grabbed the yellow suited man by the neck and effortlessly hoisted him into the air.

"I place my trust in Luthor's organization and he still feels the need to monitor me. How insulting."

The victim merely gasped for air before having his neck snapped.


I don't see where you're getting confused here Thawmus. Warp went into the guy's room and the guy was "insulted" that the Society decided to monitor him - likely feeling Warp was a spy - while the victim (Warp) could only gasp for air (i.e. - he wasn't gabbing away about insults).

charlesx
10/11/2007, 11:28
Maybe they waited to see how night one shaped up. Some people don't like lynching in the dark

Or it could be part of the confusion that ensued by skipping the Day phase and beginning at Night. Still, it doesn't give us much to go on, does it?

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 11:30
I don't see where you're getting confused here Thawmus. Warp went into the guy's room and the guy was "insulted" that the Society decided to monitor him - likely feeling Warp was a spy - while the victim (Warp) could only gasp for air (i.e. - he wasn't gabbing away about insults).

Right. But the line after that: "How's that for an insult?"

That line doesn't make sense, given that he's the one insulted. That's typically something someone would say in RESPONSE. That's why I'm confused.

charlesx
10/11/2007, 11:31
Right. But the line after that: "How's that for an insult?"

That line doesn't make sense, given that he's the one insulted. That's typically something someone would say in RESPONSE. That's why I'm confused.

Thawmus, I think that the guy feels insulted, turns around and kills Warp, then throws out the corpse, "returning the insult" that he feels he received. That's the way it reads to me, anyhow.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 11:35
Here's the other thing I don't quite get....how exactly is someone thinking that Luthor is spying on him, when Luthor was killed by the Joker at the beginning of the game?


Did Joker kill Lex, or Alexander?

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 11:37
Maybe it was an auto kill? Like you know, he targeted the dude and the dude killed him automatically?

charlesx
10/11/2007, 11:38
Here's the other thing I don't quite get....how exactly is someone thinking that Luthor is spying on him, when Luthor was killed by the Joker at the beginning of the game?


Did Joker kill Lex, or Alexander?

Now THAT is a good question. If the Secret Six is involved, can Mockingbird (the other Luthor) be far behind? Hmmmm...

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 11:38
Maybe it was an auto kill? Like you know, he targeted the dude and the dude killed him automatically?

Right, ABF already proposed that idea, and I agree with it. It's like Cluemaster's power in the Arkham game.

CarlosMucha
10/11/2007, 11:38
Maybe it was an auto kill? Like you know, he targeted the dude and the dude killed him automatically?


this can be the case here, not sure of course.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 11:41
Cluemaster though was killed by Knights; the guy is definitely on Luthor's side (with a nicely appointed room) so I don't see Warp having the Cluemaster power here (unless as was suggested earlier, the guy just kills anyone that targets him...which would seem to go with his generally cranky attitude).

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 11:47
Cluemaster though was killed by Knights; the guy is definitely on Luthor's side (with a nicely appointed room) so I don't see Warp having the Cluemaster power here (unless as was suggested earlier, the guy just kills anyone that targets him...which would seem to go with his generally cranky attitude).

You'd be wrong, there. The real Lex was NEVER a part of the Society. And he definitely hates Alexander with a passion. That's why he formed the S6 in the first place, was to take Alexander down. And he did it in his typically genius fashion. And I might point out that at the end of IC, he teamed up with....wait for it....the Joker, to finally kill Alex.

I'd be willing to bet that if and when the real Lex dies, that we find out that St Dumas was actually Alexander.


I think that the man who killed Warp is none other than Vandal Savage, the guy that Alexander (posing as Lex) was trying to get into the Society, but refused. He'd probably have the most chance of being a non-Society member that would still be allied with the real Lex Luthor. And Savage is definitely strong enough to crush someone's windpipe with one hand, and toss them out of his room like garbage. I think that Warp had to pick someone to room with for the night, and found out the hard way that Savage wasn't a townie.



However, while it's good to have theories, this all still isn't going to get us a lynch candidate yet.

Jackofhearts2005
10/11/2007, 11:58
Maybe it was an auto kill? Like you know, he targeted the dude and the dude killed him automatically?
I think this is the case.

The guy knew that Warp was on his team, but he didn't seem to really care about the Society (ie he isn't leaving his room at night) and killed him anyway (auto kill).

Jackofhearts2005
10/11/2007, 12:00
I think that the man who killed Warp is none other than Vandal Savage, the guy that Alexander (posing as Lex) was trying to get into the Society, but refused. He'd probably have the most chance of being a non-Society member that would still be allied with the real Lex Luthor. And Savage is definitely strong enough to crush someone's windpipe with one hand, and toss them out of his room like garbage. I think that Warp had to pick someone to room with for the night, and found out the hard way that Savage wasn't a townie.

I thought Savage didn't know that Alex Luthor wasn't Lex Luthor while he was in the Society.

vicious x
10/11/2007, 12:14
You'd be wrong, there. The real Lex was NEVER a part of the Society. And he definitely hates Alexander with a passion. That's why he formed the S6 in the first place, was to take Alexander down. And he did it in his typically genius fashion. And I might point out that at the end of IC, he teamed up with....wait for it....the Joker, to finally kill Alex.

I'd be willing to bet that if and when the real Lex dies, that we find out that St Dumas was actually Alexander.


I think that the man who killed Warp is none other than Vandal Savage, the guy that Alexander (posing as Lex) was trying to get into the Society, but refused. He'd probably have the most chance of being a non-Society member that would still be allied with the real Lex Luthor. And Savage is definitely strong enough to crush someone's windpipe with one hand, and toss them out of his room like garbage. I think that Warp had to pick someone to room with for the night, and found out the hard way that Savage wasn't a townie.



However, while it's good to have theories, this all still isn't going to get us a lynch candidate yet.

wow, sounds like you hit the nail on the head! :) but umm we still don't have a lynch candidate :(

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 12:25
I thought Savage didn't know that Alex Luthor wasn't Lex Luthor while he was in the Society.

Savage was never part of the Society, and while he didn't know that the real Lex was out there, it would serve to reason in this game that he would.

Jackofhearts2005
10/11/2007, 12:28
Savage was never part of the Society, and while he didn't know that the real Lex was out there, it would serve to reason in this game that he would.
I could've sworn he was, since he was in the Society base during the attack on the House of Secrets or whatever.

Did he just sneak in, then? :ermm:

kontrol
10/11/2007, 12:32
I could've sworn he was, since he was in the Society base during the attack on the House of Secrets or whatever.

Did he just sneak in, then? :ermm:
I think he was invited but he never joined.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 12:33
I could've sworn he was, since he was in the Society base during the attack on the House of Secrets or whatever.

Did he just sneak in, then? :ermm:

No, he was never in the Society. After Infinite Crisis, the Secret Six had a feud with Vandal Savage for some time, and he got help from a Society member, but that was it. He refused to partner with Alexander.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 12:36
CrusaderC, mafia typically don't get a choice in the matter. We haven't run into a case yet where they're able to hold off on making an arrest or kill.

Yeah, I forgot. Still 'relatively' new to these games. Especially this one where I'm not super familiar with the characters. :ermm:

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 12:47
I thought Savage didn't know that Alex Luthor wasn't Lex Luthor while he was in the Society.

That's actually part of the big problem for all of us - the Society didn't realize until after IC that the Luthor that was with them was a different Luthor (and, frankly, reference to "Luthor's group" could still mean either one, even if one Lex is dead - while I agree Thawmus is likely on a good track, as he points out this doesn't lead us closer to a lynch candidate).

Right now I'm heading towards CrusaderC trying to bluff why the Outsiders didn't get an arrest (i.e. - playing dumb) or Shel.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 13:05
while I agree Thawmus is likely on a good track, as he points out this doesn't lead us closer to a lynch candidate).

Maybe, maybe not. You can't forget that there are mason teams in these things, usually. Determining whether or not a person that someone else targeted was a townie or not, could in fact get us a lynch candidate by itself. Frankly, you just never know.

Doombot 3.1
10/11/2007, 14:01
So, do we really have no lynch suspects or information whatsoever?

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 14:07
So, do we really have no lynch suspects or information whatsoever?

That's what it looks like. And I'm not willing to lean on anyone this early in the game, because that usually turns out very badly... :(

JackAssterson
10/11/2007, 14:11
That's what it looks like. And I'm not willing to lean on anyone this early in the game, because that usually turns out very badly... :(

You could always lean on me...WHEN YOU"RE NOT STROOOONG...and I'll be your friend...I'll help you CARRYYYY OOOOOONNNNN, for...it won't be long...till I'm gonna need...SOMEBODYY TO LEEEEAN ONNNN...

kontrol
10/11/2007, 14:13
That's what it looks like. And I'm not willing to lean on anyone this early in the game, because that usually turns out very badly... :(
sometimes it does, other times it starts us off on the right foot. But with as quiet as this is, I can't really say who sticks out right now. Though I guess that could be a clue right there.

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 14:15
Right now I'm heading towards CrusaderC trying to bluff why the Outsiders didn't get an arrest (i.e. - playing dumb) or Shel.

Dude, I did not arrest Kaine. I did not target Kaine.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 14:16
Right now I'm heading towards CrusaderC trying to bluff why the Outsiders didn't get an arrest (i.e. - playing dumb) or Shel.

Bluff? Like I said, I'm not familar with these characters. I never read a lot of comics as a kid.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 14:17
Bluff? Like I said, I'm not familar with these characters. I never read a lot of comics as a kid.

Knowing the characters wouldn't have anything to do with knowing the Mafia rules and you've played in a fair number of games by now.

charlesx
10/11/2007, 14:34
Dude, I did not arrest Kaine. I did not target Kaine.

But, wouldn't you say that even if you had arrested/targeted Kaine? ;)

charlesx
10/11/2007, 14:35
You could always lean on me...WHEN YOU"RE NOT STROOOONG...and I'll be your friend...I'll help you CARRYYYY OOOOOONNNNN, for...it won't be long...till I'm gonna need...SOMEBODYY TO LEEEEAN ONNNN...

I am tempted to vote to lynch JackA just based on the bad karaoke. Ick! :p

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 14:39
Knowing the characters wouldn't have anything to do with knowing the Mafia rules and you've played in a fair number of games by now.

Valid point. But knowing characters makes it easier to figure out who's mafia and who's not.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 14:55
Valid point. But knowing characters makes it easier to figure out who's mafia and who's not.

Perhaps but it still looks like you were trying to make up an excuse as to why the Outsiders didn't get off a hit rather than let us know that Metamorpho was the designated hitter for the Third Group (note that I'm not calling you Mafia - I believe the Secret Six is the Mafia).

Jackofhearts2005
10/11/2007, 15:52
Still have 6 or so people to hear from.
Just saying.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 16:01
Perhaps but it still looks like you were trying to make up an excuse as to why the Outsiders didn't get off a hit rather than let us know that Metamorpho was the designated hitter for the Third Group (note that I'm not calling you Mafia - I believe the Secret Six is the Mafia).

I was just throwing ideas out there. I didn't know that Metamorpho was the hitter. I'm still struggling with the write up because every time a person is described I have to look them up on Wikipedia. :(

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 16:01
Which six?

DarkCorsair
10/11/2007, 16:02
Which six?

I dunno, but if its a secret, we know who to start lynching....


Okay, a bad joke, but I had to make it.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 16:03
Which six?
Well I suppose I'm one haven't posted yet damn time differences!:devious: Last night was interesting doesn't look like we've had any heroes pop up yet.

Jackofhearts2005
10/11/2007, 16:03
We haven't heard from:
NAES72
bamf!
DocDoom187
deathstroke1134
thepunisher27
MSU

Also, the Vision said he'd be back at 5ish. He might have some information as well.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 16:04
Well I suppose I'm one haven't posted yet damn time differences!:devious: Last night was interesting doesn't look like we've had any heroes pop up yet.

You mean besides Metamorpho, Cat-Man, Parademon and the guy we're guessing to be the Creeper, right? :p

deathstroke1134
10/11/2007, 16:06
I have no info to report. I can't Believe deathstroke is dead:( :(

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 16:07
You mean besides Metamorpho, Cat-Man, Parademon and the guy we're guessing to be the Creeper, right? :p
I thought catman was a villain?? I really need to read more DC comics lol or I'm gonna get no where in this game:cry:

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 16:14
I thought catman was a villain?? I really need to read more DC comics lol or I'm gonna get no where in this game:cry:

Seriously! I checked wikipedia for the 'secret six' and I thought they were all villians! :confused: :confused: :confused:

deathstroke1134
10/11/2007, 16:15
catman is not a villian???

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 16:19
Well, yes, in a sense they're villains. Though, in the Secret Six comic, they're more like Anti-Heroes.

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 16:20
Like, they've done good deeds and hurt other bad guys, but killed people in the process.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 16:20
They're a bunch of mercs, though Cat-Man has become one of the least villainous of the group. I would say in this game, being we (the Society) are villains, that means the Secret Six are acting as Heroes (at least by the nature of trying to stop us).

biz567
10/11/2007, 16:21
Like, they've done good deeds and hurt other bad guys, but killed people in the process.

So basically, what they will do in the end is good but they'll do anything to get there(Killing, even)? I haven't read it yet, sadly, but I think I know what your talking about.

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 16:22
Yeah, everyones a villain, just some are more villainous than the rest.


It's kinda ironic the serial killer thinks he's a hero.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 16:24
Yeah, everyones a villain, just some are more villainous than the rest.


It's kinda ironic the serial killer thinks he's a hero.
Yeah so technically the villains are the heroes. I wonder if the Joker is a played role? Maybe some type of loner? Multicolored could mean the joker red lips,white makeup, green hair, and god knows what kinda clothes he'd be wearing to such an entertaining occasion.

vicious x
10/11/2007, 16:25
Seriously! I checked wikipedia for the 'secret six' and I thought they were all villians! :confused: :confused: :confused:

I think they are all former villians, some still act evilish (guessing) kinda like the thunderbolts of marvel

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 16:26
Yeah, everyones a villain, just some are more villainous than the rest.


It's kinda ironic the serial killer thinks he's a hero.

Well, he did arrest Metamorpho, not kill the guy. :)

Anyway, in lack of anything better to do, I'm going to take up the Thawmus-gun and point it at CrusaderC (though I'm always loathe to make the first vote after the "bomb" incident).

C can say that lack of familiarity with characters was at work but that still looked more like trying to justify why the Outsiders didn't perform an arrest. Not knowing characters doesn't alter knowledge of basic Mafia techniques and "rules".

kontrol
10/11/2007, 16:28
(though I'm always loathe to make the first vote after the "bomb" incident).


me too, Rokk, me too.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 16:30
And after re reading the write up, doesn't the joker have alot of nasty tricks to knock people out? And even more so he said the most insane person in the building.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 16:34
Well, he did arrest Metamorpho, not kill the guy. :)

Anyway, in lack of anything better to do, I'm going to take up the Thawmus-gun and point it at CrusaderC (though I'm always loathe to make the first vote after the "bomb" incident).

C can say that lack of familiarity with characters was at work but that still looked more like trying to justify why the Outsiders didn't perform an arrest. Not knowing characters doesn't alter knowledge of basic Mafia techniques and "rules".


Yeah but if you don't know characters, how can you figure out who's mafia and who's not? If everyone is a villian, how can you distinguish between a villian townie and villian mafia? Eeesh.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 16:36
Just to clarify then, the secret six would be the mafia then, since they're considered anti-heroes?

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 16:39
Yeah but if you don't know characters, how can you figure out who's mafia and who's not? If everyone is a villian, how can you distinguish between a villian townie and villian mafia? Eeesh.

You could still realize why the Outsiders didn't get their arrest (i.e. - their guy was taken out), especially since his affiliation was given in the write-up. You could tell he wasn't the same affiliation as you...unless you were an Outsider as well.

vicious x
10/11/2007, 16:40
me too, Rokk, me too.

at least you had a great final quote,... dying last words ;)

Doombot 3.1
10/11/2007, 16:40
Just to clarify then, the secret six would be the mafia then, since they're considered anti-heroes?

Yes.

Also, following up on punisher27's comment, who is (1) the insane person in a building where the Joker is also there and yet (2) also does things by the book?

kontrol
10/11/2007, 16:43
at least you had a great final quote,... dying last words ;)
Yeah, the timing on that was so eerie. I'll say more when the game ends.

kontrol
10/11/2007, 16:45
Yes.

Also, following up on punisher27's comment, who is (1) the insane person in a building where the Joker is also there and yet (2) also does things by the book?
Right now the Creeper makes the most sense. But admittedly I don't know enough about the Creeper to say that with any sort of definity.

JackAssterson
10/11/2007, 16:52
Right now the Creeper makes the most sense. But admittedly I don't know enough about the Creeper to say that with any sort of definity.

The Creeper's essentially a Joker knockoff that's a hero. (I guess he didn't use to be a Joker knockoff according to folks who know his history, but right now that's what I see him as)

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 16:53
You could still realize why the Outsiders didn't get their arrest (i.e. - their guy was taken out), especially since his affiliation was given in the write-up. You could tell he wasn't the same affiliation as you...unless you were an Outsider as well.


Guess I need to re-read the write up then..:cheeky:

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 16:59
So is Catman super strong? I forget.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 17:02
So is Catman super strong? I forget.

Not really, but I got the impression someone else - likely Parademon - grabbed Slade and Cat-Man did the slicing (as there were two people that attacked Cat-Man).

That means the Six are doing the double-tap technique.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 17:05
Yes.

Also, following up on punisher27's comment, who is (1) the insane person in a building where the Joker is also there and yet (2) also does things by the book?
Lex luthor also does some stuff like that?? Just bounsing ideas off y'all. But Lex isnt colorful like the first part. Who else is insane??? The riddler??Two face?? I really think the insane colorful person is a batman villain just not which one.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 17:06
Lex luthor also does some stuff like that?? Just bounsing ideas off y'all. But Lex isnt colorful like the first part. Who else is insane??? The riddler??Two face?? I really think the insane colorful person is a batman villain just not which one.
Just not sure**(typo) which one. Since I can't edit posts a new post should suffice.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 17:08
Why would a Batman villain arrest someone? Metamorpho was arrested, not killed.

Y'know, call it a gut hunch here, but just to kick around the hornet's nest a bit...

Lynch Vote: thepunisher27

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 17:11
Why would a Batman villain arrest someone? Metamorpho was arrested, not killed.

Y'know, call it a gut hunch here, but just to kick around the hornet's nest a bit...

Lynch Vote: thepunisher27
That's true, I was just bouncing ideas, and in my book batman villains meet alot of the ideas in the write up. But if you wanna vote for me go right ahead.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 17:15
That's true, I was just bouncing ideas, and in my book batman villains meet alot of the ideas in the write up. But if you wanna vote for me go right ahead.

Oh, fine, I'll go with another suspect then...

Lynch Vote: CrusaderC

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 17:20
You know what I'm totally wrong, the multicolored man was metamorpho not the assailant.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 17:21
Could it at all possibly be Rorschach from the Watchmen?? He'd punish heroes or villains for what he fealt was wrong? And most consider him insane?? But he doesn't?

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 17:21
Seems like voting to lynch someone is part of Rokk's power...

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 17:23
Seems like voting to lynch someone is part of Rokk's power...
Like he absolutley has to??

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 17:23
Seems like voting to lynch someone is part of Rokk's power...

It's called, "We lost Deathstroke to a Secret Six double-tap" and Warp to what appears to be bad luck. I'd rather not let us go with a "freebie day" for the Six/Outsiders even if it means poking at people a bit. I may not have much going for me game-wise but if Thawmus doesn't want to point the gun, I'll gladly do so (though everytime Thawmus doesn't want to point the gun and starts bungling information it normally means we should keep an eye on him...hmm...)

kontrol
10/11/2007, 17:25
Could it at all possibly be Rorschach from the Watchmen?? He'd punish heroes or villains for what he fealt was wrong? And most consider him insane?? But he doesn't?
I doubt it. Rorschach isn't a DCU proper character. Right now Creeper seems to be the most logical. Crazed, multi-colored outfit, lone gun type that arrests people (in this case our serial killer)

With the Outsiders(mafia) and Secret Six (alt mafia) making an appearance.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 17:25
Rokk's talking some sense I'll go with him (EVEN IF HE VOTED FOR ME!!!:p)

Lynch Vote: CrusaderC

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 17:26
It's called, "We lost Deathstroke to a Secret Six double-tap" and Warp to what appears to be bad luck. I'd rather not let us go with a "freebie day" for the Six/Outsiders even if it means poking at people a bit. I may not have much going for me game-wise but if Thawmus doesn't want to point the gun, I'll gladly do so (though everytime Thawmus doesn't want to point the gun and starts bungling information it normally means we should keep an eye on him...hmm...)

Seems like a funny plan.

Vote : CrusaderC

kontrol
10/11/2007, 17:29
Seems like a funny plan.

Vote : CrusaderC
right now that's all we got I guess.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 17:34
Oh, fine, I'll go with another suspect then...

Lynch Vote: CrusaderC


Great. So because I don't know who's who in the writeups I get voted for? I was simply stating that maybe the mafia didn't make a choice last night. Which seems plausible based on the responses we got earlier today.:disappoin

Doombot 3.1
10/11/2007, 17:34
Could it at all possibly be Rorschach from the Watchmen?? He'd punish heroes or villains for what he fealt was wrong? And most consider him insane?? But he doesn't?

Rorschach fits the description very well. Only problem is that he's not mainstream DCU. (And the madman seemed to know who the Outsiders were--which Rorschach wouldn't know.)

It'd be very cool if we had some of the Watchmen running around, but I just don't think that's the case.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 17:37
Rorschach fits the description very well. Only problem is that he's not mainstream DCU. (And the madman seemed to know who the Outsiders were--which Rorschach wouldn't know.)

It'd be very cool if we had some of the Watchmen running around, but I just don't think that's the case.
He said expect anything???:laugh:

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 17:40
It's called, "We lost Deathstroke to a Secret Six double-tap" and Warp to what appears to be bad luck. I'd rather not let us go with a "freebie day" for the Six/Outsiders even if it means poking at people a bit. I may not have much going for me game-wise but if Thawmus doesn't want to point the gun, I'll gladly do so (though everytime Thawmus doesn't want to point the gun and starts bungling information it normally means we should keep an eye on him...hmm...)

By all means, if you guys want to investigate or track me, I'm all for it.

Sorry, but I know what my limitations are, and I'm going to work around them, not bungle up everyone else's game because of them.

The BoyBlunder
10/11/2007, 17:56
Is it possible that it was the Question? Paranoia crazy?

And is it possible that it is not the Secret Six, and is in fact the Suicide Squad? Could it have been Bronze Tiger? They're more Anti-heroie.

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 18:04
Is it possible that it was the Question? Paranoia crazy?

And is it possible that it is not the Secret Six, and is in fact the Suicide Squad? Could it have been Bronze Tiger? They're more Anti-heroie.

The game is based around the Society - as you would know if you had a Society character :devious: - and their "foes" in the anti-hero community are the Secret Six.

Doombot 3.1
10/11/2007, 18:18
Is it possible that it was the Question? Paranoia crazy?

And is it possible that it is not the Secret Six, and is in fact the Suicide Squad? Could it have been Bronze Tiger? They're more Anti-heroie.

The Question is a pretty good guess. I'm most familiar with his JLU version, but I assume that the DCU version also has the same fascination with conspiracy theories. Also, he strikes me as more "by the book" than the Creeper.

I also think the Secret Six are almost certainly the mafia. Villains United was, after all, basically the Secret Six versus the Society.

kontrol
10/11/2007, 18:20
You know I'll go with the pressure cooker at this time

vote: CrusaderC

charlesx
10/11/2007, 18:21
Hey, sorry but I had to catch up. Rokk has good instincts, so I am throwing in my lot with him. If not, we risk being deadlocked and getting no one from the mafia during this Day Phase.

Vote to lynch: CrusaderC.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 18:24
And getting shot up at night :noid:

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 18:25
There's 5 so far. What's majority since were even??? 14?

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 18:26
Honestly, Charles, my instincts are saying that too many people that weren't willing to come forth with something before are now happy to vote but, hey, the Six would likely want Outsiders gone as well.

I'm really not sure about this one and was hoping Crusader would communicate more but the silence is making me feel a bit better but I might still very well be wrong. I just don't want to sit back and see Day Phases pass by as in darn near every game where that happens, the Mafia has gotten a huge leg-up as we've seen (e.g. - X-Mansion, Mutant Massacre, Muppets, etc.)

charlesx
10/11/2007, 18:28
The Question is a pretty good guess. I'm most familiar with his JLU version, but I assume that the DCU version also has the same fascination with conspiracy theories. Also, he strikes me as more "by the book" than the Creeper.

Actually, in the DCU the Question is neither a lunatic nor a conspiracy theorist. He is definitely "by the book", but he is not as extreme as Rorschach. The Question is not a good guess in this instance.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 18:29
Actually, in the DCU the Question is neither a lunatic nor a conspiracy theorist. He is definitely "by the book", but he is not as extreme as Rorschach. The Question is not a good guess in this instance.
And he doesnt wear a dress on his face:cool:

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 18:34
I'm still around, I just had to get home from work. I don't know what else to tell you. I was throwing out options like everyone else, I don't see how mine was much different than any others' opinions.

vicious x
10/11/2007, 18:34
sorry CrusaderC

but I'll make it up to you if we are wrong,...

vote CrusaderC

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 18:35
Yeah if were wrong we'll rep you or something :) And if were right we'll report your to the mods :p

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 18:37
I'm still around, I just had to get home from work. I don't know what else to tell you. I was throwing out options like everyone else, I don't see how mine was much different than any others' opinions.

Well, can you give us some incentive why we shouldn't lynch you? A better target? -Something- so we don't send an innocent, er nefarious (I guess based on the game I should switch those :) ), being to death or is there not much else to say/do?

charlesx
10/11/2007, 18:39
Honestly, Charles, my instincts are saying that too many people that weren't willing to come forth with something before are now happy to vote but, hey, the Six would likely want Outsiders gone as well.

I hear ya. I wish I had more to share. Inaction can only hurt us.

Sorry, CrusaderC. If you have a major reason as to why you shouldn't be lynched and who is a better candidate, I am still willing to change my vote. Seriously.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 18:41
Well, can you give us some incentive why we shouldn't lynch you? A better target? -Something- so we don't send an innocent, er nefarious (I guess based on the game I should switch those :) ), being to death or is there not much else to say/do?
Yeah we havent heard any investigation or tracking info ( atleast not that I saw in the thread). I know I can't so anybody have any info on that end of the spectrum.

kontrol
10/11/2007, 18:44
Even if they know, they're not talking. And this is the only avenue left open to us.

The BoyBlunder
10/11/2007, 18:45
There are no wrongs in a brain storm!

And in DCU, Question IS a cospiracy theorist. It was just downplayed in 52, though it was stil present in some of his conversations with Renee.

Hell, I'm out of ideas.

Vote: CrusaderC

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 18:47
The lack of tracking info could be the fact that it seems half the folks weren't aware we'd started in a night phase and didn't get nothin' in.

NAES72
10/11/2007, 18:48
Vote: CrusaderC

kontrol
10/11/2007, 18:48
The lack of tracking info could be the fact that it seems half the folks weren't aware we'd started in a night phase and didn't get nothin' in.
possibly. Though I think that they would get auto assigned a target.

NAES72
10/11/2007, 18:49
Vote: CrusaderC

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 18:49
Vote: CrusaderC
psssst put your votes in bold St Dumas asked that on the first page

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 18:49
I don't have an investigative power. There's nothing to go on. What makes me the popular target? We've had exactly one night phase where 3 people were killed. We've deduced (I love that word) that there's the society, secret six, and the outsiders. Being as I have no knowledge of the DC comic world. What can I tell you? Like Rokk said, there are people that posted nothing, then jumped on the Crusader bandwagon.

There are at least 5 people that haven't contributed ANYTHING (to my recollection).

Ross...
MSU
Magnito
biz567
NAES72
deathstroke1134


I know what my name says, but come on...is that really worth a lynch?? :rolleyes:

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 18:51
I don't have an investigative power. There's nothing to go on. What makes me the popular target? We've had exactly one night phase where 3 people were killed. We've deduced (I love that word) that there's the society, secret six, and the outsiders. Being as I have no knowledge of the DC comic world. What can I tell you? Like Rokk said, there are people that posted nothing, then jumped on the Crusader bandwagon.

There are at least 5 people that haven't contributed ANYTHING (to my recollection).

Ross...
MSU
Magnito
biz567
NAES72
deathstroke1134


I know what my name says, but come on...is that really worth a lynch?? :rolleyes:
Rokk Krinns Mindcontroling us all!!!!!

kontrol
10/11/2007, 18:52
I don't have an investigative power. There's nothing to go on. What makes me the popular target? We've had exactly one night phase where 3 people were killed. We've deduced (I love that word) that there's the society, secret six, and the outsiders. Being as I have no knowledge of the DC comic world. What can I tell you? Like Rokk said, there are people that posted nothing, then jumped on the Crusader bandwagon.

There are at least 5 people that haven't contributed ANYTHING (to my recollection).

Ross...
MSU
Magnito
biz567
NAES72
deathstroke1134


I know what my name says, but come on...is that really worth a lynch?? :rolleyes:
You know some of those names are conspicuously silent.

kontrol
10/11/2007, 18:53
Change Vote: Magnito

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 18:56
Change Vote: Magnito
Magnito is on CT so he might not be home from work yet?? I know Deathstroke posted he didn't have anything to say. Not sure on the others.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 19:12
So people who don't post are less suspicious that those who speak out and try and figure things out?:confused:

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 19:14
So people who don't post are less suspicious that those who speak out and try and figure things out?:confused:
No people who can't post are less susspicous. But because you have a point.

Change vote: No Lynch

This is for the time being if I hear anything otherwise I'll tie the rope again.

Thawmus
10/11/2007, 19:18
On second thought, maybe I need to break my hands tonight and try to get some answers.....this is getting us nowhere, fast.

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 19:20
Is a russian roulette better than a no-lynch?

Idk, what do you guys think?

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 19:22
Is a russian roulette better than a no-lynch?

Idk, what do you guys think?
We can't get a majority not enough people are on posting/voting, and we're pretty split on who to lynch.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 19:25
On second thought, maybe I need to break my hands tonight and try to get some answers.....this is getting us nowhere, fast.

You gonna beat out some info from someone?

P.S. Don't you just love James Spader?? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

deathstroke1134
10/11/2007, 19:39
I don't have an investigative power. There's nothing to go on. What makes me the popular target? We've had exactly one night phase where 3 people were killed. We've deduced (I love that word) that there's the society, secret six, and the outsiders. Being as I have no knowledge of the DC comic world. What can I tell you? Like Rokk said, there are people that posted nothing, then jumped on the Crusader bandwagon.

There are at least 5 people that haven't contributed ANYTHING (to my recollection).

Ross...
MSU
Magnito
biz567
NAES72
deathstroke1134


I know what my name says, but come on...is that really worth a lynch?? :rolleyes:


NAES72 has spoken before and so have I.

CrusaderC
10/11/2007, 19:45
NAES72 has spoken before and so have I.


Like I said it was my recollection.

I was saying that there are more people out there who hadn't contributed anything to the thread yet.

My bad. :cheeky:

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 19:53
You know, while Magnito's silence isn't that odd - he was even missing from "Buffy" today - there are other individuals that I admit are raising the Spidey-sense a tad more. biz and MSU are both sending off warning alarms to me; ABF wishing for "No Lynch" rather than "Russian Roulette" after we were devastated does leave me asking for more explanation as well.

Honestly, Crusader I'm willing to back off for now. I just don't want to see us "timing out" because that method is -not- working out for Townies in games right now.

Withdraw Vote

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 19:56
You know, while Magnito's silence isn't that odd - he was even missing from "Buffy" today - there are other individuals that I admit are raising the Spidey-sense a tad more. biz and MSU are both sending off warning alarms to me; ABF wishing for "No Lynch" rather than "Russian Roulette" after we were devastated does leave me asking for more explanation as well.

Honestly, Crusader I'm willing to back off for now. I just don't want to see us "timing out" because that method is -not- working out for Townies in games right now.

Withdraw Vote
Yeah we either need a lynch or to kill stuff this evening:cool:

Ross...
10/11/2007, 19:56
So people who don't post are less suspicious that those who speak out and try and figure things out?:confused:
yea i guess, but if i was getting lynched id say the people that don't talk are guilty too....because pointing fingers is huge :)

p.s i know you can't pm any other players really but what if it's not about the mafia game?

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 19:57
yea i guess, but if i was getting lynched id say the people that don't talk are guilty too....because pointing fingers is huge :)

p.s i know you can't pm any other players really but what if it's not about the mafia game?
I believe its cool to pm about non related info.

Antipathy
10/11/2007, 19:57
yea i guess, but if i was getting lynched id say the people that don't talk are guilty too....because pointing fingers is huge :)

p.s i know you can't pm any other players really but what if it's not about the mafia game?

Vote: Ross

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 19:57
ABF wishing for "No Lynch" rather than "Russian Roulette" after we were devastated does leave me asking for more explanation as well.

I was asking which is better, because I've never been in a situation where there is no evidence at all.

I don't know if taking a stab in the dark or having a no lynch is better.

Lynching a townie by accident isn't really the optimal situation.

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 19:59
Lol I'm tempted to vote for Ross... just so I don't have to decipher his posts.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 19:59
Vote: Ross
Any reason why?

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 20:00
I was asking which is better, because I've never been in a situation where there is no evidence at all.

I don't know if taking a stab in the dark or having a no lynch is better.

Lynching a townie by accident isn't really the optimal situation.

No, it's not but think of it this way:

We have a shot of taking out a member of the Six/Outsiders/Creeper-esque Hero if we lynch.

We don't lynch anyone than their numbers are still solidly in place and we lose three more people tonight. That's a war of attrition they'll win.

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 20:02
Ok.

Stab in the dark (albeit slightly aimed)

Vote : Ross...

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:02
No, it's not but think of it this way:

We have a shot of taking out a member of the Six/Outsiders/Creeper-esque Hero if we lynch.

We don't lynch anyone than their numbers are still solidly in place and we lose three more people tonight. That's a war of attrition they'll win.
Wanna flip a coin? lol

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:03
Because only the mafia have such terrible grammar. :noid:

Vote: Ross...

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:06
Jacka hasn't said much either, he usually has alot to say.

Ross...
10/11/2007, 20:07
Vote: Ross
thanks lol and i gotta ask u about a sale

Ross...
10/11/2007, 20:10
ugh, Now i gotta prove myself right? you may check me if you would like i don't really care : ) all i was saying in my previous post that, crusader said that the people that didn't talk should be concidered guilty which is dumb..but once you start talking you get accused...

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 20:11
Jacka hasn't said much either, he usually has alot to say.

Not particularly until it's a bit further into the game and he's got a bit more ground.

Honestly, is there some reason we're focusing on Ross? I mean, besides the fact that he's Ross. :cheeky:

charlesx
10/11/2007, 20:15
[QUOTE=Rokk_Krinn]Honestly, is there some reason we're focusing on Ross? I mean, besides the fact that he's Ross. :cheeky:[/QUOTE

Because Rachel told us to do it? Seriously, though, this is getting nowhere. We started with CrusaderC, then went after Ross. Does anyone have any solid leads or will we let the day slip away?

Vote: Withdrawn for the time being.

Antipathy
10/11/2007, 20:17
Any reason why?

Because only the mafia have such terrible grammar. :noid:

Vote: Ross...

You ask why somebody voted for somebody else, then a few minutes later you decide to vote for him? Personally I don't think you don't care whether Ross lives or dies. And that to me is scary.

Change vote: thepunisher27

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:18
Vote: No Vote for the time being
Honestly I'd like to say we do but we don't and not enough people are voting to get anyone anyway. Let's just see what happens tonight.

Antipathy
10/11/2007, 20:18
Honestly, is there some reason we're focusing on Ross? I mean, besides the fact that he's Ross. :cheeky:

I wasn't going after Ross... :laugh:

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:19
You ask why somebody voted for somebody else, then a few minutes later you decide to vote for him? Personally I don't think you don't care whether Ross lives or dies. And that to me is scary.

Change vote: thepunisher27
I'm just trying to lynch somebody we've got nothing to go on so majority rules, vote's for ross started rolling so I hopped on.

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 20:20
I'll go along with the grammar police, if we have no other evidence.

Vote: Ross

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 20:20
You ask why somebody voted for somebody else, then a few minutes later you decide to vote for him? Personally I don't think you don't care whether Ross lives or dies. And that to me is scary.

Change vote: thepunisher27

This is just becoming an accusation fest :cheeky:


But at least your accusation has some grounds.


Change Vote : thepunisher27

charlesx
10/11/2007, 20:21
Let's just see what happens tonight.

Yeah that's just what the mafia would want, too. Just saying.

Antipathy
10/11/2007, 20:21
This is just becoming an accusation fest :cheeky:

*takes a bow*


:p

The Vision
10/11/2007, 20:22
OK, I'm caught up now.

Voting russian roulette seems better than no lynching. At least we have a chance to hit a bad guy...er goodish guy.

Vote Crusader

Antipathy
10/11/2007, 20:23
I'm just trying to lynch somebody we've got nothing to go on so majority rules, vote's for ross started rolling so I hopped on.

Crusader had more votes. Why'd you change yours?

And I would hardly call 2 people a bandwagon.

Ross...
10/11/2007, 20:24
Not particularly until it's a bit further into the game and he's got a bit more ground.

Honestly, is there some reason we're focusing on Ross? I mean, besides the fact that he's Ross. :cheeky:
does that mean u love me? because if so i love u too...in a straight way

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:24
Being voted for sucks.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:24
Crusader had more votes. Why'd you change yours?

And I would hardly call 2 people a bandwagon.
Because most people were pulling out on crusader.

The Vision
10/11/2007, 20:27
We need to get a lynch. A no lynch just gives the Mafia extra time to pick us off. Game theory favors the lynch (or so I read in another game).

So barring something big by CrusaderC or someone else. I say we lynch him.

Ross...
10/11/2007, 20:29
does that mean u love me? because if so i love u too...in a straight way
no im serious though if u love me then right back at u baby : ) lol

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 20:31
So barring something big by CrusaderC or someone else. I say we lynch him.

What about thepunisher?

Or are you in cahoots with him?



To be honest, Antipathy has put forward the best case.

The Vision
10/11/2007, 20:35
What about thepunisher?

Or are you in cahoots with him?



To be honest, Antipathy has put forward the best case.

Sorry. But What about the Punisher? Did I miss something?

I'll re-read what Antipathy said.

charlesx
10/11/2007, 20:36
What about thepunisher?

Or are you in cahoots with him?



To be honest, Antipathy has put forward the best case.

The Vision, the Crusader vote makes you suspect in my book. But at the moment I think we have someone even more suspicious.

Vote to lynch: thepunisher27.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:36
Sorry. But What about the Punisher? Did I miss something?

I'll re-read what Antipathy said.
Because I voted for Ross, after I pulled out on crusader because everyone else did, so I'm mafia scum and need to hang from a rope pretty much sums it up.

Ross...
10/11/2007, 20:39
Because I voted for Ross, after I pulled out on crusader because everyone else did, so I'm mafia scum and need to hang from a rope pretty much sums it up.
honestly i don't think you are a mafia member but we got a while because st. said he went on vacation, but jw why did u pull off crusader?

The Vision
10/11/2007, 20:40
Because I voted for Ross, after I pulled out on crusader because everyone else did, so I'm mafia scum and need to hang from a rope pretty much sums it up.

Works for me.

But seriously, your switch makes you look like we were getting too close to a lynch and so you pulled your vote. And that smells like Mafia.

Change Vote: The Punisher

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:40
honestly i don't think you are a mafia member but we got a while because st. said he went on vacation, but jw why did u pull off crusader?
Majority rules for me right now we lost a majority on him. I don't know anything other than that I'm not mafia. Which means if someone says vote for this guy I'm probably gonna vote for him or her.

Antipathy
10/11/2007, 20:44
Well, we have about 2 hours left until the day ends.

DocDoom187
10/11/2007, 20:47
Rokk Krinns Mindcontroling us all!!!!!
No, its the other way around... at least i nthe past few games;)

Dang scheaono!:p

The BoyBlunder
10/11/2007, 20:48
I'm so confused.

Change Vote: Withdraw Vote

Let me know when we know what we are doing.

vicious x
10/11/2007, 20:48
Well to be honest I think time is up,.... a long time ago, 6:15pm PST so since we didn't get Crusader we didn't get anyone. at the same time we were told by St Dumas that he wasn't going to be on until friday some time,...

so either we are just going to chat for a while with a no lynch or he can make the exception and get someone lynched if we can agree on someone by friday,....

Antipathy
10/11/2007, 20:49
Well to be honest I think time is up,.... a long time ago, 6:15pm PST so since we didn't get Crusader we didn't get anyone. at the same time we were told by St Dumas that he wasn't going to be on until friday some time,...

so either we are just going to chat for a while with a no lynch or he can make the exception and get someone lynched if we can agree on someone by friday,....

6:15 PST mean 9:15 EST

And it's 7:49 right here in cold Michigan. :)

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 20:50
We need to lynch someone.

It's useless just doing nothing.

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:50
Well to be honest I think time is up,.... a long time ago, 6:15pm PST so since we didn't get Crusader we didn't get anyone. at the same time we were told by St Dumas that he wasn't going to be on until friday some time,...

so either we are just going to chat for a while with a no lynch or he can make the exception and get someone lynched if we can agree on someone by friday,....
Thats at 9:15 EST still about an hour and a half.

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 20:50
It's not 6:15 PST. It's only 4:50 PST.

DarkCorsair
10/11/2007, 20:50
I'm gonna let myself be swayed by Anti's argument for now. We can't let the phase go by without a lynch at all.

Vote: thepunisher27

vicious x
10/11/2007, 20:50
Well to be honest I think time is up,.... a long time ago, 6:15pm PST so since we didn't get Crusader we didn't get anyone. at the same time we were told by St Dumas that he wasn't going to be on until friday some time,...

so either we are just going to chat for a while with a no lynch or he can make the exception and get someone lynched if we can agree on someone by friday,....


oops I was thinking of EST so we do have time

change vote thepunisher27
once again I will make it up to you if we are wrong

Rokk_Krinn
10/11/2007, 20:50
You ask why somebody voted for somebody else, then a few minutes later you decide to vote for him? Personally I don't think you don't care whether Ross lives or dies. And that to me is scary.

Change vote: thepunisher27

Thank you. I was hoping a bit of random shooting would start to draw something out and I believe you hit the nail on the head. Even if punisher is Society, he's too haphazard and kill-happy for my tastes; that's potentially just as dangerous and this is a vote I can get behind for the time being.

Lynch Vote: thepunisher27

turdburglar47
10/11/2007, 20:51
Fine, for the sake of doing something, I'll go with the flow.

ChangeVote: thepunisher27

Amora's_best_friend
10/11/2007, 20:51
6:15 PST mean 9:15 EST

And it's 7:49 right here in cold Michigan. :)

It's 00:48 here in sunny Scotland.


(Yes sunny Scotland is an oxymoron)

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:51
oops I was thinking of EST so we do have time

change vote thepunisher27
once again I will make it up to you if we are wrong
Thats cool go with the majority I would too.

DocDoom187
10/11/2007, 20:52
Someone want to explain why we're lynching hiim?

thepunisher27
10/11/2007, 20:52
Your breakin my robotic heart guys :cry:

KitsuShel
10/11/2007, 20:52
Lynch: the Punisher

vicious x
10/11/2007, 20:52
6:15 PST mean 9:15 EST

And it's 7:49 right here in cold Michigan. :)

:o 6:52 here in cold chicago :bolt: :bolt: :bolt: :g-starburst: :g-starburst: :g-starburst: :laugh: