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andrewtarius
11/09/2007, 14:07
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Marvel HeroClix: Mutations and Monsters
Omega Red preview (Article @ WizKidsGames.com (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/gameresources.asp?cid=41646) | Dial (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/Marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=13611))
by Seth Johnson, HeroClix Lead Designer
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Some characters are born monsters…and others are made into them. Arkady Rossovich was a serial killer, which might have been monstrous enough, but the Soviet government went one step further and performed experiments upon him that bonded the alloy carbonadium to his body and gave him tentacles of the same material. The same experiments enhanced and focused his natural abilities—among them a mutation that allows him to drain the life-force of others. When the experiment was over, the result was both a mutation and a monster—Omega Red.
Click "Read More..." Omega Red's for dial, cards and write-up on post #2.
Marvel HeroClix: Mutations and Monsters
The Leader preview (Dial @ WizKidsGames.com (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/Marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=13612))
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Click "Read More..." for The Leader dial and cards on post #3.
andrewtarius
11/09/2007, 14:08
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Marvel HeroClix: Mutations and Monsters
Omega Red preview (Article @ WizKidsGames.com (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/gameresources.asp?cid=41646) | Dial (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/Marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=13611))
by Seth Johnson, HeroClix Lead Designer
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Some characters are born monsters…and others are made into them. Arkady Rossovich was a serial killer, which might have been monstrous enough, but the Soviet government went one step further and performed experiments upon him that bonded the alloy carbonadium to his body and gave him tentacles of the same material. The same experiments enhanced and focused his natural abilities—among them a mutation that allows him to drain the life-force of others. When the experiment was over, the result was both a mutation and a monster—Omega Red.
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Omega Red charges onto the HeroClix battlefield (literally, with an opening run of Charge), lashing away with his CARBONADIUM TENTACLES (Blades/Claws/Fangs) and protected by the rest of his CARBONADIUM IMPLANTS (Invulnerability). Though he won’t be able to use the full damage-dealing potential of his tentacles, his range value of 4 does let him reach out and slash at opponents with his base damage value of 3.
The enemy might be able to knock Omega Red off the top of his dial, but they’ll have to work hard to keep him there, thanks to his special power:
Leech Each time an opposing character takes damage from a close combat or ranged combat attack made by Omega Red, heal Omega Red of 1 damage; this power is not optional.
Deeper in his dial, Omega Red will continue to LASH (Flurry) his opponents and reveal the other means through which he can use his abilities—by releasing DEATH SPORES (Poison). Note that since Poison isn’t an attack, Omega Red will be able to damage his opponents but not use that power to activate his special power; to do that, he’ll have to stay in the thick of it.
Slowly Omega Red’s defenses will be battered away, his CARBONADIUM IMPLANTS (Toughness) eventually giving way to where he’ll have to depend on his Combat Reflexes. But his special power keeps him a threat, always just an attack or two away from becoming a danger again (or able to balance out any pushing damage, if the attack is successful) and any opponent who turns away from him will pay the price.
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andrewtarius
11/09/2007, 14:08
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#044 V The Leader (@ WizKidsGames.com (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/marvel/figuregallery.asp?unitid=13612))
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I'm glad Omega Red is in the set, but calling him a monster to fulfill the monster part of the set is a cop-out of epic proportion...
Not bad. I like both figs, but I don't love them. Omega Red is consistent if nothing and The Leader is by far much better than his XP version.
Ococatam
11/09/2007, 14:26
I really dont expect anything from this two but
Nice JOB Nice JOB indeed.:classic:
darthnader
11/09/2007, 14:32
I love that Omega Red can heal himself right out of flurry. Both attacks can be successful if you start on click five, but not on click four. Plus clix four and five have identical stats, so good luck remembering which one you are on.
ThePrinted6
11/09/2007, 14:34
You do not want to base Omega unless it's with a serious beefer. You hit him, even with a big pop on a Charge with Super Strength, for instance, he's gonna Poison you (likely with Armor Piercing) and then heal himself twice off a Leech Flurry with 3 damage. It's bad times. If all goes his way, he'll deal 7 clicks while regaining 2 of his own. Do your work on this guy from 6 squares or more away!
Leader is also wicked. Starting with the Mastermind at range is rough, because it lets him get that little extra comfortable distance without worrying about his minions keeping up with him. Intellect providing Outwit and PC with no die-rolling for possible damage is brutal.
I surprised the leader doesn't have the 'leader' keyword, or leadership. I don't know anything about him though.
I've always thought Omega Red was pretty lame, even when I was young and foolishly bought all the X-Men stuff I could get my hands on, no matter how lame it was.
I do like the Leader a lot thought. He is on my must have list.
I'm glad Omega Red is in the set, but calling him a monster to fulfill the monster part of the set is a cop-out of epic proportion...
I gotta say I think people have it backwards. I think the themes and line-up for the set were decided on WELL in advance of the set name. I don't think they came up with a really cool set name and then tried to shoehorn different characters into the names because they didn't want actual monsters, which is what everyone seems to think.
I gotta say I think people have it backwards. I think the themes and line-up for the set were decided on WELL in advance of the set name. I don't think they came up with a really cool set name and then tried to shoehorn different characters into the names because they didn't want actual monsters, which is what everyone seems to think.
Kinda begs the question "why include "Monsters" in the name?" if you never intended to include Monsters, doesn't it? :p
St-Dumas
11/09/2007, 14:57
That's awesome!
Neverfate
11/09/2007, 14:57
Wow, these figures are amazing. I can not wait to play them both. Awesome stats and pretty darn good sculpts. This is shaping up to be an excellent set.
Blue_Shield
11/09/2007, 15:09
Omega Red should make a good addition to a team with his Leech power.
th ir hu cap
11/09/2007, 15:17
i've been waiting for omega red since the first colossus figure
feluwelt
11/09/2007, 15:22
poison + flurry + leach + AP = a lot of damage potential and the ability to heal 2 times, only works on the second flurry click, the first one will not allow you to make the second flurry attack
click 5 is the bomb way to go seth making figures extremely useful throughout there dial. Ill charge blades you then please smack me around so I can poison flurry leach you ohh and btw my flurry is 3 base damage just like those 200 point figure flurries sweetness
I surprised the leader doesn't have the 'leader' keyword, or leadership. I don't know anything about him though.
It's just a name really. He's led groups of minions, but nothing substantial or permanent. He's super smart so the outwit and probability control make a lot more sense.
Can the Leader use Outwit and Probability at the same time?
Al_Mattityahu
11/09/2007, 15:40
Kinda begs the question "why include "Monsters" in the name?" if you never intended to include Monsters, doesn't it? :p
But since there are monsters in the set, I guess that this question has never been begged for, right? I'm sure that they put those monsters in there on purpose.
Wolverine_Hulk
11/09/2007, 15:44
The sculpts are amazing.
Can the Leader use Outwit and Probability at the same time?
Yes because they are both free actions.
But since there are monsters in the set, I guess that this question has never been begged for, right? I'm sure that they put those monsters in there on purpose.
I'm also wondering if there were monsters that WK wanted to use and even were approved initially, but which were cut by Marvel to make more room for World War Hulk and Marvel Zombies figs.
coyotehatesyou
11/09/2007, 16:20
I was kind of hoping for plasticity on Omega Red. Otherwise, both of these guys are neat.
Manchine
11/09/2007, 16:43
Omega Red looks a little to tough for me. Still both are wants. :)
robot_100
11/09/2007, 17:31
On the second Flurry click it totally makes sense to shout "Hahaha, Omega Destroyer!", especially with armor piercing.
Omega Red is great, Leader is nice support - like JL Lex Luthor with less life and attack options - but still nice.
bill4935
11/09/2007, 17:33
Omega Red is amazing!! I've been waiting for this piece a long time - since the X-Men: Children of the Atom video game came out...
:a-fist: :a-fist: :a-fist:
rwint1968
11/09/2007, 17:47
Gotta say "Nice Figs" for this weeks double preview. Omega Red finally in clix form and he doesn't seem to disaapoint. His SP is cool and should make him a player in any format. The Leader is definitely better than his XP version, look and all. Getting a little better, but I'm still not inclined to purchase any more MM than I originally planned.
Thanks,
:cool:
promutant
11/09/2007, 17:54
:cool: I’m not sure if these are really nice pieces or just really nice pieces after 3 Beast previews, but thanks WK. This is the Leader I grew up reading about (as opposed to the other one that I still can’t believe an artist drew, a writer wrote, an editor approved, and WK made), although I don’t recognize his little friends. Anyone who does know them, please cite chapter and verse!
I love both of them! AWESOME!!
leech is exactly right for Omega's powers shame about the lack of key words.
still it's 1 more guy for my Soviet theme
But since there are monsters in the set, I guess that this question has never been begged for, right? I'm sure that they put those monsters in there on purpose.
I can accept that, only if Black Tom Cassidy is a shrub or ficus in this set. :p
I definitely buy lightning creatures, zombies and dinosaurs as monsters. Still seems a bit light to use as a theme. And Hulk is a classic mutation, due to Gamma Radiation...
batjester
11/09/2007, 18:29
I'm loving Omega Red. That special power is going to be the cats pajamas, especially since he can use it at range.
Leader is nice. He's inbetween a main line attacker and a support fig, but at a low enough price to build a decent team around. I wasn't sure if I wanted him based off the spoiler list, but with that dial I can say that I do.
Repulsor rage
11/09/2007, 18:50
I don't understand the point of the 4 click you can't use flurry unless someone outwits leach?
andrewtarius
11/09/2007, 18:54
I don't understand the point of the 4 click you can't use flurry unless someone outwits leach?
It's not an action itself, but an effect that occurs, just like Blades/Claws/Fangs. So with Flurry, you have two chances to heal 1 damage from the two attacks. It's essentially Steal Energy, that also happens at range.
Granite Moose
11/09/2007, 19:04
I don't understand the point of the 4 click you can't use flurry unless someone outwits leach?
Well, what if you miss the first attack? Nice to have that backup, don't you think?
Hatut Zeraze
11/09/2007, 19:14
As one of the people who is officially unenthused with this set, I think it is important to point out that I think both characters from this preview are pretty cool, and I'd be happy as a clam getting them in a booster.
Give credit where credit is due, I say.
sinistersex
11/09/2007, 19:29
i'm not sure, but could the Leader have been sculpted by Lukas Little?
bigmike1
11/09/2007, 20:51
Can the Leader use Outwit and Probability at the same time?
You can use them both on the same turn (yours), but only PC on your opponent's turn. Most, if not all, Probability Control re-rolls are in the middle of an action, which is about the only time you can't outwit on your turn.:grin:
gambitrmp
11/09/2007, 21:17
Omega Red is #38! I love it. That means I'll probably get the 1-48 set off ebay and put a couple SR's on my "maybe someday list".
My finances took too many hits lately so this is cause for celebration as he's my most wanted clix in a long time.
Roderic_Cliche
11/10/2007, 00:40
Anyone else foresee many a broken Omega Red, with those tentacles, from his being too hard to store in a booster or a tackle box? :(
Seriously. I thought Batman & Robin was the toughest figure to store properly. Guess I just got proved wrong! :)
Dr. Morbius
11/10/2007, 05:06
Omega Red's tendrils are a little odd...like he was trying to fly away...
Apart from that minor thing...both are awesome!!!
Omega Red is like exactly what I wanted, point wise, sculpt wise, powers. That makes a total of 12 figures in total that have met my personal expectations of how they should be represented. One happy clixer I be!!
tyroclix
11/10/2007, 11:00
I don't like the character of Omega Red, but I think the figure sounds really fun for his fans.
I like the Leader. He is still pricey for his lack of damage dealing, but on larger builds he can be a pretty solid support figure.
And just my 2 cents, but I'm so glad we are not seeing "classic: creature-feature monsters in this set. Keep HeroClix a game of super-heroes.
Nice job, WK...
Almighty Liminator
11/10/2007, 11:15
All i can say is I love the sculpts.
AbeSapien
11/10/2007, 11:18
After seeing that The Leader was 116 points for only 6 clicks I was pretty worried, but those are some hefty special powers. An 8 range MCing, psychic blasting, outwitting, PCing ranged mastermind piece with toughness?
Yes please!
Wolverine_Hulk
11/10/2007, 11:57
He is infinitely better then the old one for 3 points more.
balderbrave616
11/10/2007, 15:09
Omega Red is almost exactly what I thought he would be but without plasticity.Can't wait to get him and I like the Leader too.
Mr.x_20xx
11/10/2007, 19:35
Both figs are good, but I'm a bit dissapointed that Omega Red doesn't have 2 bolts, Incap, plascity, or super strength. I would much rather have super strength than BCF & 3 dmg.
simple as this with the new"white powers" rogue should have been made, and omega red is solid, I thought the white power is much more creative than giving him a black seal energy....the entire story like wher he drops ever x-men was a great read....now 10 years later people crack on one of the most original villians ever? please...I've got to say this set is sweet....I could care less than having the original 5 x-men dumd down after a week starter set in the danger room so quickly, but to get a arc-angel with blades....this is gonna be a hot seller....wish there were a few more morlocks artie leetch duo fig, n some marauders but be real don't crack what has been a good run....
drzoidberg1599
11/10/2007, 23:13
He is infinitely better then the old one for 3 points more.
I think that there have been Bystandard tokens that were better than the old Leader... I thought he was the alien from Mars Attacks! when I first pulled him. When i seen his stats i put on some earplugs and country music but to my dissapointment hes still here...
finally some interesting preview... I was expecting something restricted playable and since now I wasn't impressed at all... now maybe I can be a little more satisfied :p
Great!
I love Leader, but I think the old sculpt is better because of that dancing pose.
Both figs are balanced.
The only other fig I feel like comparing The Leader to is U Owlman from CD. Other figs have the "Outwit/Prob" combo, but most have dice roll and damage (also I don't know any of the figs in JL).
Owlman needs 3 more points to have fully working Prob in unrestricted, and at least 12 in restricted. That's 99 (87+12) in restricted.
Leader's wildcard is a plus, he can get perma-stealth from Batman or something else more useful. The SP Mastermind is nice to.
Anyone else think they are even close? Or is Owlman still more useful?
~Phil
burnside75
11/13/2007, 20:42
I predict right now, The Leader will be the most abused tournament figure until he is retired. He is everything you could ask for as a support/secondary attack piece. PC and OW to make sure your primary attacker hits and hits hard. Then he has PB to kick the opposing character when he's down. WC team ability and a SP mastermind from up to 4 squares away is just icing on the cake.
webslinging punk
11/25/2007, 20:21
omega red is sweet
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