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da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 17:45
Well, we have lost Chuch and Kitty. That's two human X-Men.

Makes sense that each team would have at least 1 Skrull. The New and Mighty Avengers both had a Skrull mole in their midst. Rokk and I are both solo townies without friends...not that it clears us of being Skrull, mind you. I'm cleared from the obviousness of the write-ups in making me blatantly townie.

I have a feeling that Colossus is doing Skrull mafia hits with his massive fists. That is just a gut feeling that I have. :)

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 17:46
Kitty was never a part of our group. You'll notice how she spent all of her nights "looking for her friends", and her little "epitaph" mentions it as well.

She'd most likely have joined our group if she had found us in time, unfortunately that was not to be.

We started out 3, and with Chuck gone there's still 2 of us left

Is your partner Colossus?

Melkhor
12/17/2007, 17:46
I would like to point out that Wolverine has been replaced by Skrulls before in the comics....not accusing Melk, but it's just a random factotum.

True, but if they tried that tired old stunt again then they did it so well this time that I'm not even aware of it myself! :)

And if we're going by that logic, then we should lynch ALL of the FF first, as they were the very first heroes the Skrulls ever copied ;)

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 17:47
True, but if they tried that tired old stunt again then they did it so well this time that I'm not even aware of it myself! :)

And if we're going by that logic, then we should lynch ALL of the FF first, as they were the very first heroes the Skrulls ever copied ;)

In a pinch I would be willing to off FF members until we DO find their Skrull. :laugh:

I'm starting with the Human Torch...because he shouldn't be able to night kill.

Melkhor
12/17/2007, 17:48
Is your partner Colossus?

Nope, my remaining partner is most certainly of the female persuasion. But she ain't no fine and delicate Belle if you catch my drift ;)

dbauers
12/17/2007, 17:49
I gotta give doombot a pat on the back. I have seen some paranoia in mafia games, but having the mafia be skrulls has just totally added another level of paranoia. This is great!

I don't necessarily think that all mason groups have a skrull, but i am betting on all of them at least having an "assigned skrull". Meaning, if any mason group has not yet been infiltrated, than i am willing to bet that each of them has someone like echo/skrull that is out there trying to be "recruited" while really trying to sell them down the river.

Given that Reed is already dead, I do not think it is at all a stretch to assume one of the fantastic 3 is already a skrull. personally my money is on torch. Why? Because not only do i think vicious is a townie, but johnny is a great cover for a skrull! Wouldn't Sue do anything to protect him from being lynched?

vote al_m

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 17:49
Nope, my remaining partner is most certainly of the female persuasion. But she ain't no fine and delicate Belle if you catch my drift ;)

Well then...keep both eyes on Rogue you old Canucklehead. She could very well be out punching people to death without you knowing it.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 17:51
So, I'm confused...someone said Johnny was a Bomb as well as a PGO and a Night Killer?

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 17:52
So, I'm confused...someone said Johnny was a Bomb as well as a PGO and a Night Killer?

Don't know about the bomb part....but V-X says that Johnny Storm is a PGO and can do night kills. He thinks he is a good guy because he hasn't killed yet. I say that makes him Skrully.

vicious x
12/17/2007, 17:54
so Mel if everyone has a teammate that is a skrull and you are not a skrull can you tell us who your skrull teammate is??? do you guys talk? does he tell you who he is targetting? does he have a big fist???:noid: if you are not a skrull we might as well get the guy that is,... I will keep an eye on both teammates and I am sure that they will do the same,... if anyone of us lies about our night targets we know who is the skrull traitor if any

Melkhor
12/17/2007, 17:57
so Mel if everyone has a teammate that is a skrull and you are not a skrull can you tell us who your skrull teammate is??? do you guys talk? does he tell you who he is targetting? does he have a big fist???:noid: if you are not a skrull we might as well get the guy that is,... I will keep an eye on both teammates and I am sure that they will do the same,... if anyone of us lies about our night targets we know who is the skrull traitor if any

Nope, her hands are quite small, though the punch she's packing ain't.

However, to the best of my knowledge Rogue has yet to do anything in this game, and I certainly haven't seen any mention of her in the write-ups at all. So at this point I have no reason to believe she's a Skrull... yet.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 17:59
Frankly, if Sue's positive that her two teammates aren't Skrulls and we're sure that each time has a Skrull and Namor's sure she's a Skrull....

*shrugs*

vicious x
12/17/2007, 17:59
Nope, her hands are quite small, though the punch she's packing ain't.

However, to the best of my knowledge Rogue has yet to do anything in this game, and I certainly haven't seen any mention of her in the write-ups at all. So at this point I have no reason to believe she's a Skrull... yet.

my question to you is, do you believe that every team has a skrull on it?

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 18:00
However, to the best of my knowledge Rogue has yet to do anything in this game, and I certainly haven't seen any mention of her in the write-ups at all. So at this point I have no reason to believe she's a Skrull... yet.

Well, Tony Stark was killed by having his skull crushed. My attacker smashed the wall after I took off. That could easily be Rogue, just as it could be about 5 or 6 other characters that are in this game. I think Rogue could easily be a Skrull as the X-Men haven't had one...yet.

Any chance there is another X-Team here?

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 18:01
Frankly, if Sue's positive that her two teammates aren't Skrulls and we're sure that each time has a Skrull and Namor's sure she's a Skrull....

*shrugs*

I really think that Namor 'believes' she is a Skrull. How would he know for sure? I'm sure he has no investigation powers and I doubt he is on a mason team. My guess is he was going off of a hunch.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 18:02
I really think that Namor 'believes' she is a Skrull. How would he know for sure? I'm sure he has no investigation powers and I doubt he is on a mason team. My guess is he was going off of a hunch.

So...you'll take the flavour text of the usage of the word "family" as gospel but not the text of someone saying he was sure she was a Skrull? :confused:

vicious x
12/17/2007, 18:03
Frankly, if Sue's positive that her two teammates aren't Skrulls and we're sure that each time has a Skrull and Namor's sure she's a Skrull....

*shrugs*

if you believe that Namor is a cop as well as vigilante go ahead and lynch me. but if you believe that the write ups have text and description to add flavor well, you should wait to see if a real cop can ID me as a skrull. besides in the write up on the very first paragraph it says that I know that I and my teammates are not skrulls.

take it as you will,.... but if you want to read more into the write ups you you do it for everything not just the stuff that you want to use to lynch a townie. :ermm:

vicious x
12/17/2007, 18:06
So...you'll take the flavour text of the usage of the word "family" as gospel but not the text of someone saying he was sure she was a Skrull? :confused:

or you can say,....


So... you'll take the flavour text of someone saying he was sure she was a Skrull as gospel but not the text of the usage of the word "family" :noid: :rolleyes:

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 18:06
if you believe that Namor is a cop as well as vigilante go ahead and lynch me. but if you believe that the write ups have text and description to add flavor well, you should wait to see if a real cop can ID me as a skrull. besides in the write up on the very first paragraph it says that I know that I and my teammates are not skrulls.

take it as you will,.... but if you want to read more into the write ups you you do it for everything not just the stuff that you want to use to lynch a townie. :ermm:

No, it says that you're sure your -teammates- aren't Skrulls. That's different than saying you know -you- aren't a Skrull.

Besides, like I said: you're picking and choosing which one's flavour and which one's viable information as it suits you.

Al_Mattityahu
12/17/2007, 18:06
Johnny can only kill once per game. That's why I'm being picky about using it. He is a bomb. There's nothing I can do about that. If I'm killed or sent to the negative zone, somebody is getting killed, but at that point it's out of my hands. I'm letting the heroes know because Johnny is a powerful offensive and defensive piece, and that's just the facts of the matter. I haven't noticed Johnny in the write-ups, and Sue seems to be a hero from what I can tell so far. I haven't seen evidence of The Thing killing anyone in the write-ups either. For now I think the Fantastic Three are heroes.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 18:07
or you can say,....


So... you'll take the flavour text of someone saying he was sure she was a Skrull as gospel but not the text of the usage of the word "family" :noid: :rolleyes:

Yes, as Skrull posing as Sue would still call the FF her "family" because that's her guise and she would be sure they're not Skrulls.

So are you sure it's not Johnny that's the Skrull on your team because that narrows it down to either you or the Thing.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 18:08
Johnny can only kill once per game. That's why I'm being picky about using it. He is a bomb. There's nothing I can do about that. If I'm killed or sent to the negative zone, somebody is getting killed, but at that point it's out of my hands. I'm letting the heroes know because Johnny is a powerful offensive and defensive piece, and that's just the facts of the matter. I haven't noticed Johnny in the write-ups, and Sue seems to be a hero from what I can tell so far. I haven't seen evidence of The Thing killing anyone in the write-ups either. For now I think the Fantastic Three are heroes.

See, this is where there's a bit of a disparity that I want TMNT to clear up for us as he said the information about you said you were a PGO and a Night Killer...nothing about a Bomb. Others have also said you were a PGO - V-X was begging people to not target you because they might get killed by your PGO power - and yet now you're a Bomb as well as a PGO -and- a Killer?

vicious x
12/17/2007, 18:14
Yes, as Skrull posing as Sue would still call the FF her "family" because that's her guise and she would be sure they're not Skrulls.

So are you sure it's not Johnny that's the Skrull on your team because that narrows it down to either you or the Thing.

tell you
what lets lynch the third x-man if rogue is a skrull you have a point.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 18:14
tell you
what lets lynch the third x-man if rogue is a skrull you have a point.

Unless Wolverine is the Skrull and baits us with that.

TheVagrantKing
12/17/2007, 18:16
Well, of the Mason's we know now: Inhumans, X-Men, Mighty Avengers, FF, New Avengers, we've outted skrulls from both the MA and the potential NA. That leaves FF, XM and the Inhumans. Each team has a strong fisty type (Gorgon, Rogue, and Thing).

Thing seems to be a roleblocker, from the first two write ups, and it doesn't seem likely that he'd be a RB-er AND a Killah. Which leaves Gorgon(?) and Rogue. X-Men have confirmed that there were originally 3 members at the beginning, 1 of which is dead, 1 potential is dead, which means that either Wolverine or Rogue is a Skrull (assuming that there IS a Skrull in every Mason). Money's on Rogue, as theres been a strong character ousting people.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 18:20
Did Karnak ever ascertain there was masonry going on with the Inhumans? I've been uncertain if he was just sent to Earth solo by Queen's orders.

Melkhor
12/17/2007, 18:22
my question to you is, do you believe that every team has a skrull on it?

No, I don't. There's no evidence to indicate that at this point, which is also why I didn't vote for you yesterday, and haven't voted for any of you today either.

And Rokk, could you please point to the *slightest* scrap of evidence that even suggest I would be a Skrull?

How about the part where I tracked Stark and LEFT after I had noted that he wasn't trying to do anything out of the ordinary?

You know, the part of the write-up that EXPLICITLY clears me of being a Skrull?

Honestly, if I was sure that Ol' Chuck had managed to clear you before his untimely death I'd be tempted to think you're a bit green under the collar yourself here.

And the reason I don't think Rogue's behind the killings is that I haven't heard a single peep from her yet during the game (and I haven't seen a single post from her either) so far. I don't think the player behind Rogue's is active at all at this point. But tell you what, I'll throw Rogue a PM and prod her to talk to me, and if I haven't heard back from her before tomorrow I'll let you know who she is if you really want to know. That sound alright?

Melkhor
12/17/2007, 18:24
And Rokk, if you're so certain that Namor *knows* that Sue is a Skrull, and that he's NOT out Serial Killer, then why not wait for Namor himself to step up and bloody tell us?

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 18:25
That works for me, you crazy canadian, you.

Not sure why it is that V-X seems to think it's a good idea to lynch Rogue on a 1 in 2 chance she is a Skrull but ignore the chance the he or Al are a Skrull.

I'm keeping my vote on Al at the moment, but I am willing to go back to V-X if any more info can come out.

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 18:28
Also, there are 26 players left in the game. I'm thinking:

2 X-men
3 Inhumans
2 Mighty Avengers ?
3 New Avengers
3 FF
Myself & Rokk

That leaves 11 question marks.

Anyone else disappointed that of the 26 players, only about 8 are here playing? Stupid work/holiday season. :)

We'll be lucky to even get a lynch vote for a few days at this rate.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 18:29
And Rokk, if you're so certain that Namor *knows* that Sue is a Skrull, and that he's NOT out Serial Killer, then why not wait for Namor himself to step up and bloody tell us?

I do believe Namor's our Serial Killer. I've said it previously. Ergo, he's not going to step up.

Actually the fact that we haven't seen Rogue do anything almost points more towards her being the Skrull on your team (I never felt she was the one using her fists on people; Night One I said I thought was Karnak).

biz567
12/17/2007, 18:33
Namor makes perfect sense to be a serial killer, because he won't trust anybody in this whole event, as seen at the end of Illumanti #5.

Iron Ham
12/17/2007, 18:36
Also, there are 26 players left in the game. I'm thinking:

2 X-men
3 Inhumans
2 Mighty Avengers ?
3 New Avengers
3 FF
Myself & Rokk

That leaves 11 question marks.

Anyone else disappointed that of the 26 players, only about 8 are here playing? Stupid work/holiday season. :)

We'll be lucky to even get a lynch vote for a few days at this rate.

Omega Flight is here.

that's all I'll say.

Doombot 3.1
12/17/2007, 18:58
VOTES:

vicious x: Rokk_Krinn, Shadow40, Magnito
Al_Mattityahu: da-Craig-O, dbauers

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 18:58
Omega Flight is here.

that's all I'll say.

That's all? Nothing else?

Also, Namor is a vigilante I think. The other kill last night was done by someone else, not Namor. I think it's Doc Doom (Victor, not the HCRealms guy).

vicious x
12/17/2007, 18:59
That works for me, you crazy canadian, you.

Not sure why it is that V-X seems to think it's a good idea to lynch Rogue on a 1 in 2 chance she is a Skrull but ignore the chance the he or Al are a Skrull.

I'm keeping my vote on Al at the moment, but I am willing to go back to V-X if any more info can come out.

the thing is I believe Mel is not a skrull, therefor we lynch rogue who is inactive at this point. now if she is a skrull well we are likely to have a skrull in the FF team.

now if rogue is not a skrull well not every team has a skrull in it. we can leave the FF alone. besides if we kill johnny and he is not the skrull well you are going to go after me and the thing until you realize that you killed townies,...

this is the thing, I didn't mention anything about torch being a bomb bc I know its crazy,... he is a PGO, a night killer, and a bomb I don't think you guys would believe me if I said it.

I am willing to test the waters and lynch rogue.

like I said we all need to talk to our teammates if you have some and find out who they are going to target, if in the write up lets say the thing RB's the person he wasn't going after well we have a suspect. if he targets the person that he said he was,... we move on to the next day. and my teammates will do the same with me,... I promise to target someone if I don't they will out me,...

this is the best way to know who is who,... lets lynch Rogue.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 19:00
Also, there are 26 players left in the game. I'm thinking:

2 X-men
3 Inhumans
2 Mighty Avengers ?
3 New Avengers
3 FF
Myself & Rokk

That leaves 11 question marks.


10 if you count the Super-Skrull (as a recruiter I'm guessing he's Third-Party Mafia?)

Now 7 if Omega Flight is here as a group.

I also got the impression Dr. Strange was here but that could have been me misinterpreting something said by someone on Day Two when he hinted about an "Eye".

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 19:01
this is the thing, I didn't mention anything about torch being a bomb bc I know its crazy,... he is a PGO, a night killer, and a bomb I don't think you guys would believe me if I said it.


You're right. Not only does it sound like a typical "Don't Lynch Him or You'll Die"-ploy but TMNT got the Powers read-up on the Torch and there was nothing about him being a Bomb. :tired:

MSU
12/17/2007, 19:02
So we think that the Human Torch is a skrull?

(sorry, just catching up on this thread....no man's land and elseworlds has been taking up a lot of my time)

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 19:04
10 if you count the Super-Skrull (as a recruiter I'm guessing he's Third-Party Mafia?)

Now 7 if Omega Flight is here as a group.

I also got the impression Dr. Strange was here but that could have been me misinterpreting something said by someone on Day Two when he hinted about an "Eye".

Yeah, I think pbdeberry was Dr. Strange, right. Still not sure who you are but I forgot to add Namor.

That makes it:

2 X-Men
2 Mighty Avengers
3 New Avengers
3 FF
3 Inhumans
3 Omega Flight
Dr. Strange
Namor (Vigilante?)
Doom (?) (Serial Killer?)
Rokk
Me

That leaves 5 question marks now. That is assuming that Rokk isn't Doom or Namor. He's probably Doom if anyone on that list.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 19:08
:rolleyes: My sense detect lies. I had a tumultuous life of late which is why Xavier scanned my mind and others watched me. When someone fails to tell the truth or avoids it, I've noted "The Devil collects his due".

I pretty much had figured my roleclaim was about as open as I could make it without stating my name. :cheeky:

dbauers
12/17/2007, 19:08
Yeah, I think pbdeberry was Dr. Strange, right. Still not sure who you are but I forgot to add Namor.

That makes it:

2 X-Men
2 Mighty Avengers
3 New Avengers
3 FF
3 Inhumans
3 Omega Flight
Dr. Strange
Namor (Vigilante?)
Doom (?) (Serial Killer?)
Rokk
Me

That leaves 5 question marks now. That is assuming that Rokk isn't Doom or Namor. He's probably Doom if anyone on that list.

cragi, do you really not know who Rokk is? or are you just trying to throw off people who may think they know who he is? also, i don't think pdiddy is strange. he used some invention from the lab to sniff out skrullz and he has been hiding all stealthily, and he is regal. im thinking black panther. also we saw last night he had a bodyguard, so if that same person guards him tonight, he can gather more info insteada hidin

dbauers
12/17/2007, 19:10
i was posting the above as rokk posted is. not trying to beat a dead horse or anything :laugh:

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 19:11
Well, you guys are assuming that I'm actually thinking here. How silly of me, of course that makes sense about Rokk. When he said 'Devil collects his due' I was thinking...something else. NM. :grin:

Also, Pbdeberry as BP makes sense. So we still have someone as Dr. Strange.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 19:21
no, I understood what he said. here goes I'm with the thing and torch. torch is a PGO that can kill and is a bomb,... crazy but its true.


Here's where V-X said Johnny was night killer/bomb/PGO-- Al is finessing that a bit.

Anyway, I'm back on, so back with the vote...

Vote: Al_M

Let's hear out why we should believe you.

dbauers
12/17/2007, 19:34
I think if we do suspect that each group has a current or would-be skrull infiltrator, that Al is a good person to test that theory on. Vicious was adamant about having someone check him (which i thought may have been because he was actually the PGO, but it turns out he is sue), so i think if one of the 3 is skrull, it is most likely to be Johnny.

I can see Vicious' point about "why dont we go after rogue then to test the theory?" but the bottom line is this, there are 2 possible scenarios:

1) Al is a skrull that is a PGO (good for us to lynch him obviously)

2) Al really is a human, meaning vicious was right about him. Well, then at least this is a good way to test our theory, because he is really not much good to the town anyhow, given that the mafia knows he is a PGO, and will not waste a night kill attempt on him.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 19:35
You're right. Not only does it sound like a typical "Don't Lynch Him or You'll Die"-ploy but TMNT got the Powers read-up on the Torch and there was nothing about him being a Bomb. :tired:


I overlooked this.... now I *really* want to know what's going on. Could Sue and Johnny *both* be Skrulls?

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 19:36
I overlooked this.... now I *really* want to know what's going on. Could Sue and Johnny *both* be Skrulls?


Yes they could.

Poor Ben...he's going to be so upset. Unless all 3 are Skrulls. :confused:

vicious x
12/17/2007, 19:39
You're right. Not only does it sound like a typical "Don't Lynch Him or You'll Die"-ploy but TMNT got the Powers read-up on the Torch and there was nothing about him being a Bomb. :tired:

TMNT didn't say anything about him being able to kill either :tired: :rolleyes:

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 19:41
TMNT didn't say anything about him being able to kill either :tired: :rolleyes:

Yes, he did. That was one of the very first things he said which is why we started checking on the guy.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 19:44
I wish we had more people on to get critical mass-- missing a lynch is going to suck given the night mortality rate. :(

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 19:46
I wish we had more people on to get critical mass-- missing a lynch is going to suck given the night mortality rate. :(


Ummm...of one? Of course, last night was a fluke. We 'should' have had 3 deaths.

Oh, and I agree. I'm off to find a way to destroy the Elseworlds game so that everyone will pay attention to this one. :grin:

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 19:47
I'll switch to A-M just because I don't think we'll be able to get enough people over to Rogue for the time being.

Frankly, just because Sue was so certain in her heart that her dear brother couldn't be a Skrull - if we take V-X's interpretation - that doesn't mean he isn't one. Doombot could just be playing with V-X's insistance the prior day (which also leaves me to wonder if Namor isn't someone that was quite adamant about V-X needing to get lynched or killed; do we know Cronox's role?)

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 19:48
Whoops...say all that and then forget:

Lynch Vote: Al

(I feel a tad bad about doing this as my brother's name is Al and today's his birthday. :o )

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 19:49
do we know Cronox's role?)

I do.

Happy Birthday to your brother.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 19:49
I don't mean last night, I mean on average. Though we seem to have a lot of protectors I guess, and fewer people to protect.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 19:50
Al Krinn? I thought his name was Pol.

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 19:50
I don't mean last night, I mean on average. Though we seem to have a lot of protectors I guess, and fewer people to protect.

Yeah. I suspect that with only 6 or 7 of us active that they will go for us first. I know I would. :cheeky:

TMNT99
12/17/2007, 19:51
Look, I barely said anything about Al_M first, because I'm not a cop, it was a second PM to the one I got originally...

but the powers seemed awfully aggressive.

The bomb part wasn't there, not sure what that means.

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 19:52
Look, I barely said anything about Al_M first, because I'm not a cop, it was a second PM to the one I got originally...

but the powers seemed awfully aggressive.

The bomb part wasn't there, not sure what that means.


What was there? If the PGO and night killer were there then I feel much better about starting this lynch train. :laugh:

vicious x
12/17/2007, 19:53
I think if we do suspect that each group has a current or would-be skrull infiltrator, that Al is a good person to test that theory on. Vicious was adamant about having someone check him (which i thought may have been because he was actually the PGO, but it turns out he is sue), so i think if one of the 3 is skrull, it is most likely to be Johnny.

I can see Vicious' point about "why dont we go after rogue then to test the theory?" but the bottom line is this, there are 2 possible scenarios:

1) Al is a skrull that is a PGO (good for us to lynch him obviously)

2) Al really is a human, meaning vicious was right about him. Well, then at least this is a good way to test our theory, because he is really not much good to the town anyhow, given that the mafia knows he is a PGO, and will not waste a night kill attempt on him.

if each group has a skrull Rogue is the best option, I mean we kill our vigilante and we see that not only is he a townie but a bomb now what :confused: we kill me the town DR :confused: I say the best bet would be to kill the Thing, but I am not giving up his info :mad: NEVER lets lynch Rogue to see if the X-Men have a Skrull.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 19:54
The bomb part wasn't there, not sure what that means.

That the bomb part is a way to dissuade people from voting for him?

I would hope there wasn't a role so unbalanced that it kills anyone that targets him at Night, lets him kill during the game -and- takes someone down with him as he gets lynched.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 19:55
if each group has a skrull Rogue is the best option, I mean we kill our vigilante and we see that not only is he a townie but a bomb now what :confused: we kill me the town DR :confused: I say the best bet would be to kill the Thing, but I am not giving up his info :mad: NEVER lets lynch Rogue to see if the X-Men have a Skrull.

Which one is it: is the Human Torch a Vigilante or a one-time Night Killer? We've heard both.

Doombot 3.1
12/17/2007, 19:55
VOTES:

vicious x: Shadow40, Magnito
Al_Mattityahu: da-Craig-O, dbauers, Ignatz Mouse, Rokk_Krinn


I'll be stepping out now and may not have a chance to check in until later, or possibly tomorrow morning.

dbauers
12/17/2007, 19:55
if each group has a skrull Rogue is the best option, I mean we kill our vigilante and we see that not only is he a townie but a bomb now what :confused: we kill me the town DR :confused: I say the best bet would be to kill the Thing, but I am not giving up his info :mad: NEVER lets lynch Rogue to see if the X-Men have a Skrull.

i refuse to believe that torch is a vigilante, pgo, and bomb.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 19:56
I feel dense in that I can't figure out da-Craig-o is despite him pointing himself out in the writeups.

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 19:58
I feel dense in that I can't figure out da-Craig-o is despite him pointing himself out in the writeups.

Well, you would have to have read some comics in the last 2 years to know. Not saying you haven't but not everyone has. ;)

I'm curious to see if anyone has figured it out. I would think so.

vicious x
12/17/2007, 20:01
i refuse to believe that torch is a vigilante, pgo, and bomb.

we will find out, the only thing is its not the first person who votes for him or the last,... its a random person. well who ever dies will not die with out being warned

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 20:04
Well, you would have to have read some comics in the last 2 years to know. Not saying you haven't but not everyone has. ;)

I'm curious to see if anyone has figured it out. I would think so.

Let's just say that I figure Magnito is jealous he didn't get the role. :)

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 20:09
I haven't read much mainstream Marvel.

Shadow40
12/17/2007, 20:11
VOTES:

vicious x: Shadow40, Magnito
Al_Mattityahu: da-Craig-O, dbauers, Ignatz Mouse, Rokk_Krinn


I'll be stepping out now and may not have a chance to check in until later, or possibly tomorrow morning.

I thought I withdrew my vote quite a ways back.

vicious x
12/17/2007, 20:13
Well, you would have to have read some comics in the last 2 years to know. Not saying you haven't but not everyone has. ;)

I'm curious to see if anyone has figured it out. I would think so.
a shapeshifter that had a grin when misdirecting wasp,... a skrull? :confused: j/k bc you were trying to do some good I know you are good just don't know of any shapeshifters in marvel besides hulkling who is a skrull

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 20:13
Let's just say that I figure Magnito is jealous he didn't get the role. :)

Ding, ding, ding!!

TMNT99
12/17/2007, 20:13
What was there? If the PGO and night killer were there then I feel much better about starting this lynch train. :laugh:

that he could make a hit that you can't protect against, or be bulletproof from.

and he also is a PGO (or a slight variation of)

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 20:14
a shapeshifter that had a grin when misdirecting wasp,... a skrull? :confused: j/k bc you were trying to do some good I know you are good just don't know of any shapeshifters in marvel besides hulkling who is a skrull


So...do you not know who I am then?

Shadow40
12/17/2007, 20:17
Change vote: Al_Mattityahu

vicious x
12/17/2007, 20:21
So...do you not know who I am then?

all of my knoweldge on comics ended after AoA, I loved the story but I had went away to college,... and most recent HeroClix.

bigbro911
12/17/2007, 20:22
Good enough for me...

vote: Al_Mattityahu

vicious x
12/17/2007, 20:27
Good enough for me...

vote: Al_Mattityahu

last time I say this,... he is a bomb a random bomb so not only are you killing a townie we are going to lose a second townie who voted for him :( lets lynch Rogue who is 50% chance of being a skrull if there is one skrull per team. we lynch torch we lose two townies and now you have to kill me the DR or the thing, who I will not expose. :d-normal:

TheVagrantKing
12/17/2007, 20:27
I take back my idea about a Doc Strange. I still think that he may be in this, but the evidence i saw turned out to be something else.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 20:31
V-X... you went from "might be random" to "is random..."

I wish I knew what was up with you. And how exactly is Sue a doctor? At this point, I think you're both skrulls, and if we lynch one of you and are right, I hope the vigilante goes after you at night.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 20:32
Never mind, I read your previous bomb post incorrectly.

TheVagrantKing
12/17/2007, 20:33
We need, what? 13 votes for majority?

eesh....

Al_Mattityahu
12/17/2007, 20:33
that he could make a hit that you can't protect against, or be bulletproof from.

and he also is a PGO (or a slight variation of)
Wait, what is PGO again? Johnny is a bomb. Lynch him and someone randomly gets it. Nightkill him and the nightkiller gets killed. That's it.
Once a game he can nightkill which can't be protected against. If your info is different, then it's wrong.


He's not a liability to town because he can be investigated without danger, it's only nightkilling him that triggers the bomb effect at night.

vicious x
12/17/2007, 20:35
V-X... you went from "might be random" to "is random..."

I wish I knew what was up with you. And how exactly is Sue a doctor? At this point, I think you're both skrulls, and if we lynch one of you and are right, I hope the vigilante goes after you at night.


my forcefields protect my target. thats why I'm a dr the thing is very strong and can hold people down hence he is the RBer and Johnny is a man on fire,... need I say more. just vote for him and when we lose two townies today and your doctor tonight good luck with the rest of the game :tired:

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 20:36
A PGO - which V-X says you are and outed that because he didn't want any Townie targeting you and getting killed (see, the info doesn't match here) - is someone that kills whomever targets him.

We've been told two stories about your powers (three if you count this latest change where you're -just- a Bomb and not a PGO'er as well).

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 20:36
Why, in game terms, would Johnny be a bomb?

I think we have 6 or so now.

TheVagrantKing
12/17/2007, 20:39
I imagine it's his 'Nova Blast'. When he's in danger he eradicates everything around him.

It DOES sound rather extreme for torch, but Reed DID just die....

vicious x
12/17/2007, 20:42
I imagine it's his 'Nova Blast'. When he's in danger he eradicates everything around him.

It DOES sound rather extreme for torch, but Reed DID just die....

kinda but just think about this way,... if he goes out he he is going to go out with a bang.:g-starburst:

TheVagrantKing
12/17/2007, 20:45
I know what it is, and it makes sense character wise, it's just a tad extreme/violent for a townie. Torch normally I would see maybe with a RB power (firewalls), or maybe vigilante. This sounds rather extreme is all.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 20:45
OK, it's possible.

Here's what I am struggling with:

The writeup *really* sounds like it's really Sue. But V-X has been so flaky I don't know how to take what he says. But his description of torch is both so "off" and so inconsistent that I think something is up. I don't know if it's skrull-per-team or not, but I don't think Thing is a Skrull, based on the writeups.

I'm so confused.

vicious x
12/17/2007, 20:46
why can't we just target Rogue??? an inactive person,... that has a 50% chance of being a skrull if the one skrull per team rule is implied. Rogue would be a great to lynch since I believe mel to be a human. so that raises the the odds to 90% that she is a skrull if there is one skrull per team. besides the write ups have tony's head smashed, and da craigs attack put a hole in the wall,... some thing she could do

TheVagrantKing
12/17/2007, 20:49
From what i understand, V-X has been consistent with what he's been saying:

Torch will kill a random person who voted for him if he is lynched. He will kill anyone who kills him. He has the ability to kill anyone person during the night phase that ignores protection.

V-X I feel has been consistent, it's just the wording and slip ups that change. Though theres some discrepancy on IF he's a bomb or not, as it wasn't in TMNT's PM, VX seems to have been consistent.

TheVagrantKing
12/17/2007, 20:50
why can't we just target Rogue??? an inactive person,... that has a 50% chance of being a skrull if the one skrull per team rule is implied. Rogue would be a great to lynch since I believe mel to be a human. so that raises the the odds to 90% that she is a skrull if there is one skrull per team. besides the write ups have tony's head smashed, and da craigs attack put a hole in the wall,... some thing she could do

Because unless Mel tells us who she is, theres no way we can vote for her ;)

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 20:50
Well, because if she's inactive she wasn't doing those things.

There's also the inconsistency in your emphasis that Torch was a PGO and Vigilante and Al's claims that he's just a simple Bomb and one-time NK'er that I think should be cleared up. (For the record, your info fits closer to what TMNT received which kind-of leads me to feel Al's the one painting things a tad.)

vicious x
12/17/2007, 20:52
OK, it's possible.

Here's what I am struggling with:

The writeup *really* sounds like it's really Sue. But V-X has been so flaky I don't know how to take what he says. But his description of torch is both so "off" and so inconsistent that I think something is up. I don't know if it's skrull-per-team or not, but I don't think Thing is a Skrull, based on the writeups.

I'm so confused.

maybe a skrull didn't infiltrated every team? thats why we should test out this theory with Rogue,.... tourch is hasn't killed anyone, thing is helping us and I know that I am not a skrull I wouldn't have defended torch soooo much if I was a skrull, heck I would let you all vote for him and see him die and take one of you with him,...

time for me to get ready for work,.... so I hope we go after Rogue. I am leaving my vote with Al Matt (he gets two votes if its allowed) we have time to go for Rogue.

TMNT99
12/17/2007, 20:53
VicX, and be honest.. if one of the three of you (Fanastic 4) were Skrulls, who do you think it would be?

Same question to the other two.

vicious x
12/17/2007, 21:02
being honest I don't think any of us are skrulls,... I talked to both of the each night we talked about our targets and we see it in the write ups,... I suggest that everyone in the mason group does the same,... if your person says I am going to target da craig and nothing happens to the shapeshifter well your teammate lied to you,... possible skrull. thats why I want to test Rogue if she is a skrull we might have to look everyone the thing and torch will have to look at me too,...

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 21:04
VicX, and be honest.. if one of the three of you (Fanastic 4) were Skrulls, who do you think it would be?

Same question to the other two.

Would you like me to back that up with my power?

I'll be honest I've been debating all day how best to use it: do I ask Al to clarify the truth of his powers (for the record, I think V-X believes that just because Torch hasn't killed he must be Fantastic Four but if the Torch really only does have a one-time use power and doesn't want to lose his teammate's trust, there's no reason for him to have used it yet); maybe I should ask Melkhor to tell us Rogue's ID...or do I try a question I've been thinking of but I'm not sure if it would be "cheating" my restriction too much and thus be disallowed (i.e. - asking Al if he has any teammates besides the Thing and V-X).

vicious x
12/17/2007, 21:06
this is why I think Mel should give us Rogue, he said that he hasn't been intouch with her,... he also said that she isn't posting,... and the head smash,.... punching a wall does fit her,... I believe Mel to be human so its 90% chance that she is a skrull.

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 21:06
Would you like me to back that up with my power?

I'll be honest I've been debating all day how best to use it: do I ask Al to clarify the truth of his powers (for the record, I think V-X believes that just because Torch hasn't killed he must be Fantastic Four but if the Torch really only does have a one-time use power and doesn't want to lose his teammate's trust, there's no reason for him to have used it yet); maybe I should ask Melkhor to tell us Rogue's ID...or do I try a question I've been thinking of but I'm not sure if it would be "cheating" my restriction too much and thus be disallowed (i.e. - asking Al if he has any teammates besides the Thing and V-X).

I think that asking Al if he is on more than one team would be great. I don't want you to waste it though.

I'd stick with asking V-X as he is on here more...of course he is leaving now.

vicious x
12/17/2007, 21:10
Would you like me to back that up with my power?

I'll be honest I've been debating all day how best to use it: do I ask Al to clarify the truth of his powers (for the record, I think V-X believes that just because Torch hasn't killed he must be Fantastic Four but if the Torch really only does have a one-time use power and doesn't want to lose his teammate's trust, there's no reason for him to have used it yet); maybe I should ask Melkhor to tell us Rogue's ID...or do I try a question I've been thinking of but I'm not sure if it would be "cheating" my restriction too much and thus be disallowed (i.e. - asking Al if he has any teammates besides the Thing and V-X).

yeah ask him if he has more teammates,.... :) that is the best question

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 21:11
yeah ask him if he has more teammates,.... :) that is the best question

That seals it. Ask V-X who he thinks are Skrulls on his team.

vicious x
12/17/2007, 21:14
That seals it. Ask V-X who he thinks are Skrulls on his team.

I said I don't think anyof them skrulls,... so that would be a waste ask Al if he has other teammates,... that way we can save him and a voter from dying,...

or ask Mel to out Rogue, bc once we clear torch we still need a suspect.

Al_Mattityahu
12/17/2007, 21:25
Would you like me to back that up with my power?

I'll be honest I've been debating all day how best to use it: do I ask Al to clarify the truth of his powers (for the record, I think V-X believes that just because Torch hasn't killed he must be Fantastic Four but if the Torch really only does have a one-time use power and doesn't want to lose his teammate's trust, there's no reason for him to have used it yet); maybe I should ask Melkhor to tell us Rogue's ID...or do I try a question I've been thinking of but I'm not sure if it would be "cheating" my restriction too much and thus be disallowed (i.e. - asking Al if he has any teammates besides the Thing and V-X).
Yes, please ask me if I have any teammates besides the Thing and Sue Storm. That actually sounds reasonable.

MSU
12/17/2007, 21:39
Why don't you just ask "Al - are you a skrull?"

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 21:40
He can't. His power won't let him.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 21:40
Why don't you just ask "Al - are you a skrull?"

I already said I can't do that (which is why I'm checking to see if the question I was toying with is also too close to my restrictions). Trust me, if I could this would be a -lot- easier. :ermm:

MSU
12/17/2007, 21:42
Then ask something about winning the game with - something along the lines - who are two players you want to win the game with?

If he says his team partners, then we know he is legit (or they are skrulls too, which is kinda far fetched). If he picks two other people, we know they are skrulls with him and he is to be lynched.

Can Rokk do that?

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 21:45
Then ask something about winning the game with - something along the lines - who are two players you want to win the game with?

If he says his team partners, then we know he is legit (or they are skrulls too, which is kinda far fetched). If he picks two other people, we know they are skrulls with him and he is to be lynched.

Can Rokk do that?

All he has to do is answer "My teammates" and my power is shot for the day. I worded things sloppily yesterday, I would rather not do so again.

MSU
12/17/2007, 21:47
That is why i say "Name two players still in the game" - it's like wishing with a genie!

dbauers
12/17/2007, 21:47
All he has to do is answer "My teammates" and my power is shot for the day. I worded things sloppily yesterday, I would rather not do so again.

couldnt you say like "what are the names of the 2 players you want to win with?" that way he can't say my teammates.

dbauers
12/17/2007, 21:48
That is why i say "Name two players still in the game" - it's like wishing with a genie!

exactly, hasn't anyone here played D & D before? Gotta be careful how you word those wishes....

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 21:54
I think we're on the right track with that but I should still find something a little less "subjective" (e.g. - all the person has to do is argue he would -like- to be able to win with the folks that he named...even if it's not possible). That falls under the stipulation of my power: nothing too subjective or I get an inconclusive result.

MSU
12/17/2007, 22:02
exactly, hasn't anyone here played D & D before? Gotta be careful how you word those wishes....

or watched Aladdin?

All the infinite powers of the cosmos....teeny little living space!

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 22:32
I already said I can't do that (which is why I'm checking to see if the question I was toying with is also too close to my restrictions). Trust me, if I could this would be a -lot- easier. :ermm:


I'm late on this game. who are you Rokk? and how you have that awesome power!?

Doombot 3.1
12/17/2007, 22:42
VOTES

vicious x: Magnito
Al_Mattityahu: da-Craig-O, dbauers, Ignatz Mouse, Rokk_Krinn, Shadow40, bigbro911


Hope I got everybody.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 22:42
I'm late on this game. who are you Rokk? and how you have that awesome power!?

Eh, being you're like the last person to know - and missed how it's not that awesome (use it once a day and the question has to be phrased pretty darn good, though the penalty for someone refusing to answer it is pretty nifty :) ) - I'll just outright say it: I'm Daredevil.

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 22:46
Eh, being you're like the last person to know - and missed how it's not that awesome (use it once a day and the question has to be phrased pretty darn good, though the penalty for someone refusing to answer it is pretty nifty :) ) - I'll just outright say it: I'm Daredevil.


WOW!

soo THAT is how Daredevil #### Jeniffer Gardner Elektra just with a walk and a rain!

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 22:51
WOW!

soo THAT is how Daredevil #### Jeniffer Gardner Elektra just with a walk and a rain!


It's so hard not to quote you all the time Carlos. So hard.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 22:56
I'm actually trying to figure out how the two are related...

...unless it's just Carlos associating me with Daredevil and deciding I'm so incredibly awesome that Jennifer Gardner Elektra would hop right into bed with me. :cheeky:

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 22:58
I'm actually trying to figure out how the two are related...

...unless it's just Carlos associating me with Daredevil and deciding I'm so incredibly awesome that Jennifer Gardner Elektra would hop right into bed with me. :cheeky:

I wonder how Carlos hasn't tried to take a girl on a walk and a rain. Works every time. :cool:

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:00
I wonder how Carlos hasn't tried to take a girl on a walk and a rain. Works every time. :cool:


Not in Miami. :tired:

In Miami rain only with Twisters. :tired:

I hate twisters. :tired:

I don't like Miami's Women eating habits. :tired:

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:01
I wonder how Carlos hasn't tried to take a girl on a walk and a rain. Works every time. :cool:


also it only works if you ran in the rain with her. In fact any run can end in a kiss. Unless the man wins. then forget it.

TMNT99
12/17/2007, 23:07
We are still a far cry off from getting anyone lynched....

Here's the thing, I think one of the FF are mafia.

VicX refusal to beleive that Al might be a Skrull makes me more supicious of him. He doesn't have to say he think so, but he refuses to even see a chance in it.

And because he refuses to admit there's probably a Skrull amongs them, makes me think he's the Skrull, because if he pointed the finger to Al, he'd be the next likely choice, so he's hoping to convince us the FF are Skrull free.

Not sure where to place my vote for the moment, but if we get some real momentum on AL, I will add it as well.

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:09
Not in Miami. :tired:

In Miami rain only with Twisters. :tired:

I hate twisters. :tired:

I don't like Miami's Women eating habits. :tired:


One of these four is not like the others...one of these four just isn't the same.

I have no idea what Miami girls eating habits has to do with rain or twisters but I am never going there if I end up divorced. ;)

Can you vote now?

biz567
12/17/2007, 23:10
Which one would be mafia?

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:11
One of these four is not like the others...one of these four just isn't the same.

I have no idea what Miami girls eating habits has to do with rain or twisters but I am never going there if I end up divorced. ;)

Can you vote now?


for who?!


filler.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 23:11
Carlos, I asked this yesterday but I'm still wondering - are you in a Mason Group or are you solo?

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 23:11
We're getting more people on, so let's get some votes going, or at least some info flowing.

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:14
Carlos, I asked this yesterday but I'm still wondering - are you in a Mason Group or are you solo?


werever is the answer is yes, maybe or not sometimes better than that or not soo much like before I think what I guess what I have to say what maybe I can answer that question without first question to myself is the answer will be a wrong or right choice to do or not do.

I hope that answer your question.

:nervous:

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 23:14
Carlos is with me, and if you caught my hint about who I am, you'll be able to guess who he is, too.

I won't be more specific than that.

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:16
for who?!


filler.


Glad you asked Carlos.

It seems that Vicious X is Sue Storm and he is in a mason group with The Thing and Human Torch (Al_Mattiyahu). He claims that none of the three of them appear to be Skrulls. However, Human Torch seems to be a PGO, a bomb AND can do a single night kill. Some of us feel that each Mason group has a hidden Skrull mole in it. I think that the Human Torch or Sue Storm is the Skrull on the FF. Based on last night's write-up, Sue could be cleared. My question is why would Human Torch have night kill abilities. I think he is Skrull.

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:18
Glad you asked Carlos.

It seems that Vicious X is Sue Storm and he is in a mason group with The Thing and Human Torch (Al_Mattiyahu). He claims that none of the three of them appear to be Skrulls. However, Human Torch seems to be a PGO, a bomb AND can do a single night kill. Some of us feel that each Mason group has a hidden Skrull mole in it. I think that the Human Torch or Sue Storm is the Skrull on the FF. Based on last night's write-up, Sue could be cleared. My question is why would Human Torch have night kill abilities. I think he is Skrull.


Mmmm. I don't think every mason team has a skrull (I hope).

but who is Jonhy here? I will vote for him.

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:19
Mmmm. I don't think every mason team has a skrull (I hope).

but who is Jonhy here? I will vote for him.

Al_Matt is Johnny Storm. He is sitting at around 7 votes right now.

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:20
Al_Matt is Johnny Storm. He is sitting at around 7 votes right now.


Ok.

Lynch vote: Al_Matt

what the others F4 members say about him??

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:27
Ok.

Lynch vote: Al_Matt

what the others F4 members say about him??

Thing is a secret so far. Vicious-X says that Al is a bomb that is town and will kill one of us randomly. However he is also supposed to be a PGO and can night kill. Doesn't seem the slightest bit suspicious, especially with the story changing half a dozen times today.

What was the color of sarcasm again?

dbauers
12/17/2007, 23:28
Carlos is with me, and if you caught my hint about who I am, you'll be able to guess who he is, too.

I won't be more specific than that.

Would you mind repeating your hint? I didn't catch it at all. :laugh:

biz567
12/17/2007, 23:29
Lynch: Al Matt

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:31
Would you mind repeating your hint? I didn't catch it at all. :laugh:

Me too.

Are you two members of the Inhumans?

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 23:31
There's a search function....

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:34
Thing is a secret so far. Vicious-X says that Al is a bomb that is town and will kill one of us randomly. However he is also supposed to be a PGO and can night kill. Doesn't seem the slightest bit suspicious, especially with the story changing half a dozen times today.

What was the color of sarcasm again?


Mmm that sound like a lie.

unless Jonhy is our Vigilante. but why Vicious is defending him?

A: they are Mafia (both) or
B: Is a lie to try to not night kill him.

if that is a like Vicius have to say it right now or "Johny" will be lynched.

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:35
Would you mind repeating your hint? I didn't catch it at all. :laugh:


hints are hints. only to be seen for good town people or too smart Mafia guys. :p :nervous:

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 23:40
Carlos is with me, and if you caught my hint about who I am, you'll be able to guess who he is, too.

I won't be more specific than that.

I already know who Carlos is but was trying to figure out if he was one of the solo heroes or part of a mason. Thanks.

So, the breakdown that we know of so far is...

Carlos (won't say out of respect for those that haven't figured it)
IM
(Third Mystery Member)

Al (Torch)
V-X (Sue)
(Third Mystery Member, though I have suspicions - Thing)

(Wasp - Identity Unknown?)
(The Vision - dead Tony)
(Sudbury33 - dead Natasha - Skrull)

Melkhor (Wolverine)
(inactive Rogue)
(GroovyBoy - dead Chuck)

Iron Ham (character unknown)
(Unknown Omega Flight Member)
(Unknown Omega Flight Member)

Pdeberry - Black Panther - solo (?)

Rokk - Daredevil - solo

da-Craig-o - Hulkling - solo

Doomsie - Kitty - solo but looking for X-Men

Antipathy - dead Echo - Skrull, looking to infiltrate New Avengers

Dbauers (?) - Spidey - New Avengers?

ABF - Dead Zemo - Solo (?)

Viper - Identity unknown

Namor - Identity unknown

Super-Skrull - Identity unknown

I'm sure I'm forgetting something but I'm doing this off the top of my head.

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:43
I already know who Carlos is but was trying to figure out if he was one of the solo heroes or part of a mason. Thanks.

So, the breakdown that we know of so far is...

Carlos (won't say out of respect for those that haven't figured it)
IM
(Third Mystery Member)

Al (Torch)
V-X (Sue)
(Third Mystery Member, though I have suspicions - Thing)

(Wasp - Identity Unknown?)
(The Vision - dead Tony)
(Sudbury33 - dead Natasha - Skrull)

Melkhor (Wolverine)
(inactive Rogue)
(GroovyBoy - dead Chuck)

Iron Ham (character unknown)
(Unknown Omega Flight Member)
(Unknown Omega Flight Member)

Pdeberry - Black Panther - solo (?)

Rokk - Daredevil - solo

da-Craig-o - Hulkling - solo

Doomsie - Kitty - solo but looking for X-Men

Antipathy - dead Echo - Skrull, looking to infiltrate New Avengers

Dbauers (?) - Spidey - New Avengers?

ABF - Dead Zemo - Solo (?)

Viper - Identity unknown

Namor - Identity unknown

Super-Skrull - Identity unknown

I'm sure I'm forgetting something but I'm doing this off the top of my head.


great list.

Question: why Reed is not with the 4??

Al_Mattityahu
12/17/2007, 23:44
Thing is a secret so far. Vicious-X says that Al is a bomb that is town and will kill one of us randomly. However he is also supposed to be a PGO and can night kill. Doesn't seem the slightest bit suspicious, especially with the story changing half a dozen times today.

What was the color of sarcasm again?
Johnny is not a PGO. He's a bomb and has a one-time nightkill ability.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 23:45
Reed died in the set-up to the game.

Hey, if Echo was a solo-looking-for-the-team, might that apply to Kitty as well? could that be a Skrull MO in general?

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:46
Rokk-

I know who The Wasp is.

You forgot Karnak and possible 2 other Inhumans unless that is Carlos and IM's group. If I was part of the big target party on night 2 then I know who IM is I guess.

Anyone else wondering why Al refers to his role in the 3rd person. Does that let him lie without moral confusion?

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 23:46
Johnny is not a PGO. He's a bomb and has a one-time nightkill ability.

Yet both TMNT - who got a look at your powers - and your -own- teammate say otherwise.

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:47
Reed died in the set-up to the game.

Hey, if Echo was a solo-looking-for-the-team, might that apply to Kitty as well? could that be a Skrull MO in general?


Except that Kitty wasn't a Skrull? Sure.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 23:48
Oh, forgot she was dead. Sorry, just looking for patterns.

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:49
Johnny is not a PGO. He's a bomb and has a one-time nightkill ability.


Al M.

answer me this: did Jonnny SEND you his role in the begining of the game? or he just told you who he is??

Al_Mattityahu
12/17/2007, 23:49
Yet both TMNT - who got a look at your powers - and your -own- teammate say otherwise.
Then I would advise the actual heroes who are seeing this to be suspect of their information in the future, and possibly their motives.

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:49
Except that Kitty wasn't a Skrull? Sure.


could be the Skrulls all indys trying to infiltrate teams????

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:51
Al M.

answer me this: did Jonnny SEND you his role in the begining of the game? or he just told you who he is??


He IS Johnny. I know it's confusing. He keeps referring to himself as someone else. Like Doctor Doom speak.

Al_Mattityahu
12/17/2007, 23:51
Al M.

answer me this: did Jonnny SEND you his role in the begining of the game? or he just told you who he is??I was actually SENT a role which is named Johnny Storm.
Al M.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/17/2007, 23:53
Then I would advise the actual heroes who are seeing this to be suspect of their information in the future, and possibly their motives.


This is starting to sound like scrambling.

Rokk_Krinn
12/17/2007, 23:54
Then I would advise the actual heroes who are seeing this to be suspect of their information in the future, and possibly their motives.

You're telling us to be suspicious of V-X who's been saying the same thing as TMNT regarding your powers?

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:54
Anyone know how to delete a PM without reading it?

*sigh*

da-Craig-O
12/17/2007, 23:55
Nevermind....got it. :)

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:56
Anyone know how to delete a PM without reading it?

*sigh*


yes. just go to the right place of the window. and click it. why?

CarlosMucha
12/17/2007, 23:59
anyways. there is other one who could be suspicius??

Shadow40
12/18/2007, 00:01
I already know who Carlos is but was trying to figure out if he was one of the solo heroes or part of a mason. Thanks.

So, the breakdown that we know of so far is...

Carlos (won't say out of respect for those that haven't figured it)
IM
(Third Mystery Member)

Al (Torch)
V-X (Sue)
(Third Mystery Member, though I have suspicions - Thing)

(Wasp - Identity Unknown?)
(The Vision - dead Tony)
(Sudbury33 - dead Natasha - Skrull)

Melkhor (Wolverine)
(inactive Rogue)
(GroovyBoy - dead Chuck)

Iron Ham (character unknown)
(Unknown Omega Flight Member)
(Unknown Omega Flight Member)

Pdeberry - Black Panther - solo (?)

Rokk - Daredevil - solo

da-Craig-o - Hulkling - solo

Doomsie - Kitty - solo but looking for X-Men

Antipathy - dead Echo - Skrull, looking to infiltrate New Avengers

Dbauers (?) - Spidey - New Avengers?

ABF - Dead Zemo - Solo (?)

Viper - Identity unknown

Namor - Identity unknown

Super-Skrull - Identity unknown

I'm sure I'm forgetting something but I'm doing this off the top of my head.


*sigh* I didn't realized there was so many teams.

Al_Mattityahu
12/18/2007, 00:05
This is starting to sound like scrambling.
Whatever it sounds like, I have laid out the info, and the heroes may be able to make use of it if I get lynched. If I'm a PGO, it is completely unknown to me. I'll check back in here in about 6 hours to see what's happenin, as I guess Rokk doesn't have a question he'd like to ask.

Rokk_Krinn
12/18/2007, 00:12
Whatever it sounds like, I have laid out the info, and the heroes may be able to make use of it if I get lynched. If I'm a PGO, it is completely unknown to me. I'll check back in here in about 6 hours to see what's happenin, as I guess Rokk doesn't have a question he'd like to ask.

I've asked you questions - such as why your own teammate has said you were a PGO and practically begged people to not target you "because he didn't want a Townie getting killed from your PGO ability".

MSU
12/18/2007, 00:18
Is there a chance that V-X is completely confused about this entire thing?

I really have no idea what is going on....

Rokk_Krinn
12/18/2007, 00:24
V-X is Al's teammate and was the one who kept emphasizing the PGO threat yesterday (he even kept saying we should check him - not Al - out as Al's PGO power would kill the cop). Now Al says he doesn't have a PGO ability but is just a Bomb. TMNT, meanwhile, got information that Al is a PGO.

So, which of the three stories doesn't match the other ones?

biz567
12/18/2007, 00:25
If they switch stories, their lying.

MSU
12/18/2007, 00:27
V-X is Al's teammate and was the one who kept emphasizing the PGO threat yesterday (he even kept saying we should check him - not Al - out as Al's PGO power would kill the cop). Now Al says he doesn't have a PGO ability but is just a Bomb. TMNT, meanwhile, got information that Al is a PGO.

So, which of the three stories doesn't match the other ones?

Gotcha...Al is saying no wait, don't kill me...I'll take you down with me!

Vicious is saying "No wait, don't target him...he'll take you down!"

TMNT is saying "No wait, don't target him...he'll take you down!"

So Al is prolly the PGO...and he lied about it. Which is pretty typical of the mafia...to lie.

lynch Al

If I die because he's the bomb.....

MSU
12/18/2007, 00:28
Did Vicious ever say he was a PGO and a bomb....for some reason, I thought he did.

CarlosMucha
12/18/2007, 00:29
V-X is Al's teammate and was the one who kept emphasizing the PGO threat yesterday (he even kept saying we should check him - not Al - out as Al's PGO power would kill the cop). Now Al says he doesn't have a PGO ability but is just a Bomb. TMNT, meanwhile, got information that Al is a PGO.

So, which of the three stories doesn't match the other ones?

for that I ask him is they actually send his roles each other OR if they just say who they are and what are his powers.

if they don't send they roles maybe 1 of them is a Skrull. (since "write" the role will be a extra job, maybe the skrull infiltrator just say "I'm Human Toch, My power is this" Hope you get the idea.)

Rokk_Krinn
12/18/2007, 00:33
Did Vicious ever say he was a PGO and a bomb....for some reason, I thought he did.

V-X started adding in the Bomb part today (though I don't know if it was before or after Al started to say it because I was busy in a meeting and ddin't totally catch everything properly when I got back). The Bomb part almost strikes me as a case of the two of them deciding Al was in trouble and adding in that aspect of his power.

Frankly, more and more, I thnk V-X really is certain that Al isn't a Skrull but that doesn't mean Al -isn't- a Skrull. I mean, it's not like he's going to say, "Yeah. I'm a Skrull."

Ignatz_Mouse
12/18/2007, 00:56
I'm off for the night, but at this point, I hope we either get some solid info or get the lynch done before we run out of time.

Cronox
12/18/2007, 01:02
for that I ask him is they actually send his roles each other OR if they just say who they are and what are his powers.

if they don't send they roles maybe 1 of them is a Skrull. (since "write" the role will be a extra job, maybe the skrull infiltrator just say "I'm Human Toch, My power is this" Hope you get the idea.)
If your teamate is a skrull, it wont say in their write-up. The PM would display all roles in the same PM, and all would be "good/townie".

CarlosMucha
12/18/2007, 01:04
If your teamate is a skrull, it wont say in their write-up. The PM would display all roles in the same PM, and all would be "good/townie".


I think you are right. that is the way what I receive my role. then what? the Skrulls receive a extra PM?

Mmm... that sound right...

Rokk_Krinn
12/18/2007, 01:07
I think you are right. that is the way what I receive my role. then what? the Skrulls receive a extra PM?

Mmm... that sound right...

No, they probably just got their individual write-ups but with both their cover ID and their Skrull ID and teammates.

For example, when I was Merlin (disguised as Mim) in the first Disney game, I got the info about my team - or, rather, who was on it - and what my real ID was but also that I was disguised as Mim and infiltrating the Mafia.

CarlosMucha
12/18/2007, 01:08
No, they probably just got their individual write-ups but with both their cover ID and their Skrull ID and teammates.

For example, when I was Merlin (disguised as Mim) in the first Disney game, I got the info about my team - or, rather, who was on it - and what my real ID was but also that I was disguised as Mim and infiltrating the Mafia.


Interesting. good to know.

biz567
12/18/2007, 01:10
Yeah, you'd get your cover ID.

CarlosMucha
12/18/2007, 01:11
well, now I know for sure what Rokk is not in any mason or mafia team because Doombot actually send all the team-mates roles in the same pm. (like Cronox say).

CarlosMucha
12/18/2007, 01:13
maybe I reading to much but maybe... Cronox... you are also a Not indy?

Cronox
12/18/2007, 01:30
maybe I reading to much but maybe... Cronox... you are also a Not indy?
Nope. I'm the one that proved the theory that if a skrull was in your mason, you wouldn't know it.

da-Craig-O
12/18/2007, 01:59
Nope. I'm the one that proved the theory that if a skrull was in your mason, you wouldn't know it.

Were there 3 members in your mason group?

I'm trying to get an idea on mason sizes. Are they all 3 people, for example?

TheVagrantKing
12/18/2007, 02:03
How many do we have on Al_Mat at this point?

da-Craig-O
12/18/2007, 02:06
How many do we have on Al_Mat at this point?

I think it's around 8 or 9. We need 14 for a lynch.

TheVagrantKing
12/18/2007, 02:12
hmmm...allright. I'll put a vote in to get this underway. I trust VX on his abilities. I think he's a bomb/PGO/1 time night killer. His back talk of the bomb-ness confuses me, so:

Vote: Al_mat.

I don't think any teams are guaranteed to be Skrull free, but i want this phase to be over, and i dont think there much point in attempting to swing 10+ votes.

Rokk_Krinn
12/18/2007, 02:18
In case anyone is wondering - I haven't used my power on Al because the vote isn't going to swing away from him at this point in the game and if he feels he's being lynched anyway, there's literally no reason for him to not lie as it's not like he won't be around for the Night consequences of, say, refusing to answer.

da-Craig-O
12/18/2007, 02:22
But at the same time, there is the off chance that we don't get enough votes...again.

Cronox
12/18/2007, 03:14
But at the same time, there is the off chance that we don't get enough votes...again.
How much time do we have?

Lynch: Al_M

And i'm gussing that most mason groups are only three people. With one being a skrull. Although Rokk, you could always join my mason group now that our skrull is gone.

Melkhor
12/18/2007, 05:06
Just restating it for the record, there's no way I'm giving you Rogue today, ain't gonna happen!

Also, I have made contact with her now, and will take steps to verify her identity.

Al_Mattityahu
12/18/2007, 07:12
I've asked you questions - such as why your own teammate has said you were a PGO and practically begged people to not target you "because he didn't want a Townie getting killed from your PGO ability".I think you probably realize that I was talking about a special bold-text question. And vicious x started the PGO business when I wasn't around to defend myself, and I didn't realize what he was doing, and I have no idea why he was lying. So why would you be asking me why my 'teammate' said something? Ask him. And when you find out Johnny Storm is no Skrull, then ask him some more, until you get a good answer.

In a mess like this, I can't believe you all haven't got a lynch together yet.

Al_Mattityahu
12/18/2007, 07:15
hmmm...allright. I'll put a vote in to get this underway. I trust VX on his abilities. I think he's a bomb/PGO/1 time night killer. His back talk of the bomb-ness confuses me, so:

Vote: Al_mat.

I don't think any teams are guaranteed to be Skrull free, but i want this phase to be over, and i dont think there much point in attempting to swing 10+ votes.
That hurts. You sound Skrully to me now.

TMNT99
12/18/2007, 08:33
Vote: Lynch AL

I really hope the bomb part is a lie.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/18/2007, 09:19
Mason groups are not all three, btw.

Doombot 3.1
12/18/2007, 09:31
VOTES

vicious x: Magnito
Al_Mattityahu: da-Craig-O, dbauers, Ignatz Mouse, Rokk_Krinn, Shadow40, bigbro911, CarlosMucha, biz567, MSU, TheVagrantKing, Cronox, TMNT99

TMNT99
12/18/2007, 09:34
So were still short by two huh?

Ignatz_Mouse
12/18/2007, 09:35
We need 15, right? And how long do we have?

Doombot 3.1
12/18/2007, 09:36
We need 15, right? And how long do we have?

Day 4 ends when a majority is reached or at 3:00 pm EST.

sstralkowski
12/18/2007, 09:37
Ugh, you guys write too much and I'm just too tired and busy to really get into this game. Gimme some time to catch up. :rolleyes:

Ignatz_Mouse
12/18/2007, 09:39
Nope, it's 14 (just looked).

Melkhor
12/18/2007, 09:44
I *really* don't think this is a good idea, but in the hopes that it might help silence Rokk's distressingly constant "Wolverine is a Skrull!" yells I'll add my voice to this.

Vote: Lynch Al_Mattityahu!

Rokk_Krinn
12/18/2007, 09:46
I *really* don't think this is a good idea, but in the hopes that it might help silence Rokk's distressingly constant "Wolverine is a Skrull!" yells I'll add my voice to this.

Vote: Lynch Al_Mattityahu!

I've said it like once that you could be the Skrull instead of Rogue (that our assumption that as the talkative one you're the safe one doesn't really mean she's the danger; do I think she's the one? Yes. Do I think that means people should have just forgotten Option B? No.)

Heck, it's not like I used my power to make you give us her name.

dbauers
12/18/2007, 09:50
I've said it like once that you could be the Skrull instead of Rogue (that our assumption that as the talkative one you're the safe one doesn't really mean she's the danger; do I think she's the one? Yes. Do I think that means people should have just forgotten Option B? No.)

Heck, it's not like I used my power to make you give us her name.

I kind of want someone to lie to you so i can see what happens. :laugh:

dbauers
12/18/2007, 09:53
Oh, and since I have already been mentioned as spidey in thread, i may as well ask:

Hey Vicious, how about a little tit for tat? I saved your neck yesterday, hows about some doctoring tonight? Namor might be a little pissed after the whole "web in the eyes" thing. :laugh:

Rokk_Krinn
12/18/2007, 10:01
Which reminds me, DB, if you're hard-pressed to figure out who to Jailkeep (not sure of a villain and don't want to mess with someone's power), you won't interfere with the Lie Detection as it takes place in Day phase (unless someone's avoided answering or keeps failing to tell the truth in which case, yeah, I can't Collect my Due).

Uknown352
12/18/2007, 10:07
Vote:Lynch Al

Ignatz_Mouse
12/18/2007, 10:09
Well, I guess now we'll find out if we were wrong.

Uknown352
12/18/2007, 10:14
I can't say I put alot of thought into my vote because I was really just following everyone else. I really didn't want to have to look through 20+ pages to decide my vote.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/18/2007, 10:15
I wonder if the people who run Mafia games are like obituary editors, who start working on a write-up when somebody is close to kicking off. :)

Doombot 3.1
12/18/2007, 10:18
VOTES

vicious x: Magnito
Al_Mattityahu: da-Craig-O, dbauers, Ignatz Mouse, Rokk_Krinn, Shadow40, bigbro911, CarlosMucha, biz567, MSU, TheVagrantKing, Cronox, TMNT99, Melkhor, Uknown352

A majority has been reached!

************

“Are you guys crazy? It’s me, Johnny!”

The crowd wasn’t convinced. Surely, the Fantastic Four had been betrayed from within by a Skrull mole. Sue tried to defend her little brother, but the crowd did not believe that it was truly Johnny Storm who stood before them.

Reed was dead. Sue nearly died last night. His home had been invaded by Skrulls. And now, through guile and trickery, they had manipulated his friends and allies into imprisoning him in the Negative Zone. Always a hothead, Johnny had had enough.

All of the anger, grief, and frustration that Johnny had struggled with since Reed’s death now exploded in a searing burst of flame, with terrible and final results for one of the crowd.

Without hesitation, the crowd quickly subdued him and sent him into the Negative Zone. They then turned to the Torch’s victim, and only then realized what a terrible mistake they had made.

Al_Mattityahu has been imprisoned in the Negative Zone. He was Johnny Storm, the Human Torch (Hero/Fantastic Four), a hothead who went out with a Nova Blast.

TMNT99 is dead. He was Kl’rt, the Super Skrull (Independent/Skrull), who sought vengeance both upon the humans who had defeated him and the Skrulls who rejected him as an embarrassing failure.

Night 4 begins now. Please get your pms to me. You have until 12:00 pm EST, 12/19.

Doombot 3.1
12/19/2007, 11:08
Just a reminder for everyone to get their pms in if they want to target anyone.

Doombot 3.1
12/19/2007, 18:12
Night 4

*************

Some of the Baxter Building’s occupants were only invigorated by the day’s events. It warmed their hearts to know that Kl’rt, who had brought only shame and defeat to the Empire, was dead--killed by one of the hated Fantastic Four, who now languished in a Negative Zone prison. The Skrulls knew that it was only a matter of time before distrust and paranoia tore Earth’s heroes apart.

*************

A woman with long, flowing red hair moved through the darkened hallways, intent on achieving her aim. Someone with a large, rocky fist stopped her from doing so.

*************

A man left Reed’s laboratory, intent on achieving his aim. Someone (protected by a grateful woman) with the proportionate strength of a spider and lots of thick, resilient webbing stopped him from doing so.

*************

A man in a red costume followed a haughty man, who he found to be very suspicious. What the man in red did not know was that others also found him to be very suspicious.

One man (watched over by a woman who was quite familiar with the Baxter Building) emerged from the shadows to scan the man in red, in order to confirm his identity. At the same time, a green-haired woman let herself into the man in red’s room and began searching.

*************

Elsewhere, another man, whose face was covered entirely by a black mask, waited in his room, as he done on previous nights. By nature, he was brash and impetuous, so this did not come easily to him, but he knew that the right time to reveal himself had not yet arrived.

He did not know that one of his teammates now doubted where his loyalties lay. He was not aware that his soul was being carefully scrutinized by a magical amulet.

Rather, his attention was entirely focused on the woman who had just entered his room, after ripping the door from its hinges. He barely had time to notice the white streak in her hair before she knocked him out with a single blow.

*************

The woman with the white-streaked hair left, followed by another. Logan did not want to consider the possibility that the X-Men had been betrayed from within, but with Chuck and Kitty dead, he had to be sure.

“Whose side are you really on?”

“Why, the winning side, sugah.” The woman with the white-streaked hair grinned evilly.

Cursing, Logan popped his claws and lunged at her, or at least he tried to. Instead, somebody immensely strong grabbed him from behind and hurled him through several walls.

Logan finally came to rest next to the Baxter Building’s indoor pool. He struggled to pick himself up from the rubble. Given time, his healing factor would allow him to recover, but he knew that he wasn’t going to get that time. His opponent was on him in an instant, pummeling him mercilessly until Logan finally lost consciousness.

“Don’t y’all forget about—" said the woman with the white-streaked hair.

“I know about his healing factor,” snapped Logan’s attacker, annoyed at the human accent adopted by his fellow Skrull Infiltrator. “Just report back and tell the commander that the mission succeeded.”

The woman with the white-streaked hair left.

“His file didn’t say anything about gills.” He tossed Logan’s body into the pool, where he held it down, allowing the mutant’s lungs to fill with water.

*************

A short time later, Namor (followed by the same man in red who others had found suspicious) arrived at the Baxter Building’s indoor pool. By then, it was too late for Wolverine, but not too late to miss catching his killer red-handed.

Logan’s killer decided to drop the pretense, shifting from the form of Dr. Leonard Samson to his true form. “Don’t be a fool. When I volunteered for this mission, the Empire’s scientists exposed me to gamma radiation so I could take over this identity. I could crush you like a bug.”

“IMPERIUS REX!”

Namor charged the gamma-powered Skrull, tackling him and sending them both tumbling into the pool. However, his opponent was no fool. He stomped, creating a hole in the bottom of the pool that sent both him and Namor tumbling onto the floor below in a cascade of water.

From there, the battle raged, shaking the Baxter Building to its foundations. Neither held back, smashing their opponent through walls and pounding them with unrelenting fury. After what seemed like an eternity, one finally faltered. The two combatants might have been equally matched in strength, but no Skrull, gamma-powered or not, could match the indomitable will of the Avenging Son of Atlantis.

“Please … no more … I surrender,” pleaded the exhausted and battered Skrull.

“Who are the other Skrulls?” demanded Namor.

The Skrull whispered something, but it was barely audible.

“Tell me if you want to live!”

Again, the Skrull whispered something.

Namor leaned in closer to hear.

Unfortunately, while Namor’s will was stronger, the Skrull was considerably more treacherous. By pretending to surrender, the Skrull tricked his opponent into lowering his guard and moving closer. After that, it was a simple matter for him to surreptitiously grab an iron beam that had been torn loose during the battle and shove it through the chest of a very surprised Namor.

The Skrull laughed. Earthlings were so easy to fool.

Howling in rage, Namor pulled the iron beam from his chest. With one last surge of furious strength, he rammed it through the Skrull’s head, killing him instantly.

Exhausted, the Avenging Son of Atlantis collapsed, finally succumbing to his wounds.

*************

Melkhor is dead. He was James “Logan” Howlett, Wolverine (Hero/X-Men), formerly the best there was at what he did.

Bigbro911 is dead. He was Captain Gremuyn (Skrull Infiltrator), loyal and gamma-powered solider of the glorious Skrull Empire, posing as Doc Samson.

Uknown352 is dead. He was Namor (Hero/Unaffiliated), Avenging Son of Atlantis, who was prepared to take extreme measures to defend his kingdom.

**************

SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

DocDoom187 will be stepping into thepunisher27's role, as of Day 5.

**************

Day 5 begins now and will end at 7:00 pm EST, 12/20. With 21 players remaining, 11 votes are needed for a majority.

Also, I am currently leaning towards the idea of closing the thread when Day 5 ends and allowing players until 12/26 to get their pms in for Night 5. The thread would then re-open on 12/26, with Day 6.

However, I am willing to keep the game going through the weekend, if people prefer. (The thread will definitely be closed for Christmas Eve and Christmas.) If you have a preference, please indicate what that is in the thread. Thanks.

CarlosMucha
12/19/2007, 18:16
wow. we lost 2 for one skrull. Not fair!

dbauers
12/19/2007, 18:38
Talk about a wasted night. Seriously people, Rokk is human and is Dare Devil. How many more townies need to check him to verify that?

And the "Now I can say 'I told you so' award goes to ViciousX". Not only was Human Torch not a skrull, but Rogue obviously is. Just like he said. :cry:

Question: any chance that the guy in the lab is Forge?

Shadow40
12/19/2007, 18:46
It is funny that Rokk roleclaims and people still have to check him out to be sure. :laugh:

michiganj24
12/19/2007, 18:50
Ok guys sorry I havent been on here for the last few days but someone keeps silencing me. So whoever you are please stop if you are town.

CarlosMucha
12/19/2007, 18:57
It is funny that Rokk roleclaims and people still have to check him out to be sure. :laugh:


yea, but some people check him killing him. :p

dbauers
12/19/2007, 19:07
Who was it that said they were in omega flight? If they could just say who their teammates are (just the players, not the character names or roles), i could really narrow down my list of who might be rogue. same goes for the inhumans.....

Iron Ham
12/19/2007, 19:08
Who was it that said they were in omega flight? If they could just say who their teammates are (just the players, not the character names or roles), i could really narrow down my list of who might be rogue. same goes for the inhumans..... I am. I have no teammates, so for all I know I'm the only one here.

dbauers
12/19/2007, 19:09
Dang. Inhumans?

dbauers
12/19/2007, 19:19
I know who was targetted by rogue last night. If we can narrow down my list a bit, we can pick from a few people and have rokk lie detect on the question "who did you target last night?"

sstralkowski
12/19/2007, 19:32
Can someone recap me on what happened last day phase? I really don't have the time or motivation to read all that.

dbauers
12/19/2007, 19:36
I don't remember why, but someone suspected Al_M (human torch) of being a skrull. ViciousX (Invisible Girl/Woman) vouched for him being human. Vicious suggested that rather than lynching human torch, we should go after Melkhors partner. Melk was wolverine and it is believed that each group is infiltrated by a skrull, and rogue was the only other X-Men left. Well, we lynched human torch, and he was town, and he was also a bomb that took Turtle with him (turtle was super skrull, so that was good).

Anyhow, Melkhor was killed last night before telling us who rogue is and now it is clear that she is a skrull. :cry:

Ignatz_Mouse
12/19/2007, 19:44
There are only two Inhumans in our group. Anyone else I would suspect of being a Skrull meant to join up and infiltrate-- but since our identity has been known since yesterday, I would have expected that to happen last night. I doubt we'll see any other Inhumans at all, real or Skrull.


Too bad about torch, but we got rid of a Skrull and not a townie when he went off, at least-- and the recruiter, too, which is good. So we did a bad thing but got reasonably lucky.

Night, on the other hand, sucked.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/19/2007, 19:50
V-X was acting very squirrelly, and when lightly pressed, started talking up Torch as a Vigilante/Bomb/PGO combo, which made us very suspicious. The story changed, and thus a lot of us thought Torch wasn't what he said, plus the theory (now blown) that most teams have a Skrull.

It was a bad snowballing effect, and I was involved early and feel partly responsible. I'm learning that some people act suilty when accused even if they aren't. :(

dbauers
12/19/2007, 19:53
V-X was acting very squirrelly, and when lightly pressed, started talking up Torch as a Vigilante/Bomb/PGO combo, which made us very suspicious. The story changed, and thus a lot of us thought Torch wasn't what he said, plus the theory (now blown) that most teams have a Skrull.

It was a bad snowballing effect, and I was involved early and feel partly responsible. I'm learning that some people act suilty when accused even if they aren't. :(

As agitated as V-X was, he was spot-on about Rogue being a skrull. Who knows? There is nothing saying that Thing isn't a skrull. Also, the New Avengers don't seem to have a current skrull either. We had a recruitible skrull.

Ignatz_Mouse
12/19/2007, 19:56
I guess what I mean is we can't deduce much from what we (or at least I) know.

Shadow40
12/19/2007, 20:03
Quick question, how many teams are in this game? I remember New Avengers, FF4, X-Men, one of the Flights (Alpha or Omega). Is there any I'm missing.

michiganj24
12/19/2007, 20:05
Mighty Avengers I would think too what with Iron Man and Black Widow
Quick question, how many teams are in this game? I remember New Avengers, FF4, X-Men, one of the Flights (Alpha or Omega). Is there any I'm missing.

dbauers
12/19/2007, 20:05
Here's what I am thinking tonight. I have put together a list of people that I don't know about (not necessarily mafia/bad, just people my team hasn't been able to gather info on).

We can have Rokk ask one of them who they targetted last night using his truth detection. Then Rokk can track a different one. Then I can ask Pdiddy to check a different one of them tonight cause Diddy has a bodyguard. I will web a different one of them (hopefully Sue Storm still has my back), I will ask one of my team mates to "skrull detect" on a different one, and we can ask Thing to role-block another. That will account for 6 of the 7 people on my "don't know much about" list.

Plus, if someone dies during the night like Melk did, we have an idea of who was where.

Shadow40
12/19/2007, 20:14
Where is everybody? Not many people talking right now.

da-Craig-O
12/19/2007, 20:15
I can always misdirect someone. If it shows up in the write-up that can give us clues to who they are. For example, I know who The Wasp is from a misdirect.

Glad that Doc Samson is dead since he tried to punch me. :)

dbauers
12/19/2007, 20:16
Ok, I think I know who wasp is, but Cragi, if we decide to go along with my "target allocation" plan, if anyone i say as a target is wasp, please let me know.

I saw that Rokk is online, so I am waiting for him to stop by. If he agrees to the plan, I will give him the name of someone to ask "Who did you target last night?"

dbauers
12/19/2007, 20:17
I can always misdirect someone. If it shows up in the write-up that can give us clues to who they are. For example, I know who The Wasp is from a misdirect.

Glad that Doc Samson is dead since he tried to punch me. :)

Oh, also, do you misdirect by forcing a chosen person to target a random target? Or do you misdirect by forcing a chosen person to target a chosen target?

Shadow40
12/19/2007, 20:18
Here's what I am thinking tonight. I have put together a list of people that I don't know about (not necessarily mafia/bad, just people my team hasn't been able to gather info on).

We can have Rokk ask one of them who they targetted last night using his truth detection. Then Rokk can track a different one. Then I can ask Pdiddy to check a different one of them tonight cause Diddy has a bodyguard. I will web a different one of them (hopefully Sue Storm still has my back), I will ask one of my team mates to "skrull detect" on a different one, and we can ask Thing to role-block another. That will account for 6 of the 7 people on my "don't know much about" list.

Plus, if someone dies during the night like Melk did, we have an idea of who was where.

I'm curious do you know who I am?

dbauers
12/19/2007, 20:21
I'm curious do you know who I am?

Nope, you are on my "needs to be checked" list. :cool:

Shadow40
12/19/2007, 20:22
Nope, you are on my "needs to be checked" list. :cool:


I'm trying to think of a subtle way to let you know who I am.

dbauers
12/19/2007, 20:23
Cragi, the reason I asked about your misdirection ability, is cause in the legion game i could target someone and force them to target a specific person. If you can do that, then I could have you force someone to target the same person taht I web. That way, we can probably find out who it is, without risking you accidentally misdirecting a killer to a townie.

Shadow40
12/19/2007, 20:24
I'm in the last two night write-ups.

dbauers
12/19/2007, 20:24
I'm trying to think of a subtle way to let you know who I am.

Given that pretty much all trackers and the doctor are already outted, you could probably just straight up role-claim without too much fear of reprisal. I'm not telling you to do that though, it is up to you. Don't want your death on my conscience. :laugh:

dbauers
12/19/2007, 20:25
I'm in the last two night write-ups.

On a team, or a loner?

Shadow40
12/19/2007, 20:26
On a team, or a loner?


Loner. Reason I was shocked at all the teams appearing.

dbauers
12/19/2007, 20:28
If you don't want to answer this, don't. Are you a guy or a girl?

Shadow40
12/19/2007, 20:28
If you don't want to answer this, don't. Are you a guy or a girl?

Girl.............

Shadow40
12/19/2007, 20:29
Girl.............

A girl that has been on quite a few teams. Like the Avengers, FF4, SHIELD, etc.

dbauers
12/19/2007, 20:30
A girl that has been on quite a few teams. Like the Avengers, FF4, SHIELD, etc.

K, I think I have an idea.... for now you are off the list. :)

pbdeberry
12/19/2007, 21:05
The guy I targeted last night turned out to be a Hero.

dbauers
12/19/2007, 21:09
The guy I targeted last night turned out to be a Hero.

Are you down for my suggestion of coordinating who our checkers check out? That way we can avoid having multiple people check the same person.

pbdeberry
12/19/2007, 21:13
sure. Sounds like a solid plan.

Uknown352
12/19/2007, 21:16
Atleast I died a Hero :).

da-Craig-O
12/19/2007, 21:39
dbauers - My power doesn't work like yours did in Legion. I don't want to go into too much detail unless it's necessary.