Tips on BEING mafia

[sstralkowski]

As some of you know, I was recently assigned to the mafia in one of my games. I had no clue how to go about the daily discussion. So I am looking for tips on how to blend in with the good guys without getting yourself investigated. Really, ANY tips on how to play a bad guy would be helpful.

[Rokk_Krinn]

First off, don't name yourself "Rokk_Krinn" as it's a dead giveaway. :noid:

[Amora's_best_friend]

Get a place you can discuss things easily, like a separate forum, or an msn chat.

Poor communication is the mafia's biggest weakness.

[tidge]

Hint: don't kill the same player in two different games 3 hours apart...and rep each other for it....and then post one after another.

[Jackofhearts2005]

1) Think of a roleclaim IMMEDIATELY!

You never know when you'll be investigated by the cop on night one.

You may want to think of an excuse for why you might come up evil and think of a good guy that could be in the game that might look like you or have similar equipment in case a flavor cop targets you. Make sure you don't get those roleclaims confused or make sure you combine them.

2) Act as if you were that role. Don't talk much less or make jokes about you being mafia if you don't normally do such things. Some people won't be able to control this but if you can, it will help. Maybe even hint a few times on the thread that you are such and such hero just so that people won't investigate you.

3) Be willing to vote for your teammates if it comes down to it. If you help vote off 4 townies and mysteriously hold off voting for every mafia member that the town catches, somebody (probably TMNT) will notice.

4) Do something different.

Rokk came up as evil in Escape From Hell and survived til nearly the end of the game because he came forth with information on a mafia member.

In Harry Potter, Jsoccer almost kept his teammate, MSU, from being lynched because he claimed to be in a mason group with him. People removed votes because they figured no mafia member would be ballsy enough to vouch for another mafia member.

5) Communicate!

Two heads are almost always better than one.

You can make a free message board at www.proboards.com which can be a lot easier than communicating by pm.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Hint: don't kill the same player in two different games 3 hours apart...and rep each other for it....and then post one after another.

Conversely, don't read too much from one game into another. :p

One sincere hint is that your story works best if it has a grain of truth. If everything is massively fabricated you're toast once any information comes out that contradicts it but if you've been fairly truthful - odd as that sounds - it's a lot harder to disprove you.

[sstralkowski]

All good advice. Keep it coming. I think my bass ackwards role claim as Storm Shadow has been the only thing that I've done right as a bad guy thus far.

[KitsuShel]

Also, don't pull a "Biz" and give up when your role claim is questioned. I've seen the kid have a decent role claim, then throw his hands up in the air when people start to question him. Just act natural and go with the flow.

If you're going to false roleclaim, stick with it, don't jump around.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also, don't pull a "Biz" and give up when your role claim is questioned. I've seen the kid have a decent role claim, then throw his hands up in the air when people start to question him. Just act natural and go with the flow.

If you're going to false roleclaim, stick with it, don't jump around.


Good advice.

Also, if you are 99% sure you're going to get lynched, claim a key role.

Say something like "Fine I'm the doctor. I'll probably be dead tonight even if you don't lynch me. :("

You might get the real doctor to reveal themself.

What happened when Biz claimed to be the tracker? The (supposedly) real tracker showed up, giving himself away to the mafia.

[goodman]

Roleclaim as Elmo, its garenteed to get you into the final 4 players of any mafia :p

Either that or roleclaim as someone so evil that its completely believeable that they would betray everyone to look after themselves, thus making you neutral, and then say you're going out of your way to help the town, (sidenote: avoid giant snakes while doing this)

[EmperorNorton]

Make offers people cannot refuse.

[Uknown352]

I agree with JoH that you need to think of a good RC from the beginning of the game. If you take too long to RC you look like your googling up good IDs.

[sstralkowski]

Roleclaim as Elmo, its garenteed to get you into the final 4 players of any mafia :p

:laugh: It helps that you knew the person who was actually Elmo was killed by a janitor/vigilante so no one could question you.

[goodman]

i know, thats whats so spectacularly evil about it :devious:

[The BoyBlunder]

Also, don't pull a "Biz" and give up when your role claim is questioned. I've seen the kid have a decent role claim, then throw his hands up in the air when people start to question him. Just act natural and go with the flow.

If you're going to false roleclaim, stick with it, don't jump around.


Is that so, zombie sue dibney/jean loring/anti-moniter?

[Rokk_Krinn]

Take the cannoli and leave the gun.

[Darkseid Sr.]

Take the cannoli and leave the gun.

Duh! The cannoli tastes better.

[turdburglar47]

All good advice. Keep it coming. I think my bass ackwards role claim as Storm Shadow has been the only thing that I've done right as a bad guy thus far.


I'm not so sure it was right. ;) Announcing yourself as recruitable early in the game means you get more suspicious when you're NOT recruited. Not to mention that no one else in the Mafia is likely to trust you enough to communicate with you if you're begging to get out of the Mafia. ;)

[CarlosMucha]

Roleclaim as Megan Fox.


:cross-eye (cute eyes)

[biz567]

Also, don't pull a "Biz" and give up when your role claim is questioned. I've seen the kid have a decent role claim, then throw his hands up in the air when people start to question him. Just act natural and go with the flow.

If you're going to false roleclaim, stick with it, don't jump around.



Make me feel worse, will ya?

[CarlosMucha]

Biz, how may times you was Mafia in games?

you are begining to be the new Rokk??

[biz567]

Nah, just that and South Park. And maybe another.;)

I need to work on it, so the more mafia roles the better. I need to have some practice.

[michiganj24]

If you are teh don be willing to sacrifice a member of 2 to make yourself look good. It might seem cold but is often teh way to staying around long. The only reason Rokk was screwed in Escape from Hell was at teh end he had no mafia left to help him

[sstralkowski]

I'm not so sure it was right. ;) Announcing yourself as recruitable early in the game means you get more suspicious when you're NOT recruited. Not to mention that no one else in the Mafia is likely to trust you enough to communicate with you if you're begging to get out of the Mafia. ;)

Kept me alive to make 2 more night kills. Plus, I was already caught by Rokk.

[sstralkowski]

Roleclaim as Megan Fox.


:cross-eye (cute eyes)

Yeah, good call. :rolleyes:

[Magnito]

Just don't contradict yourself. Stand by everything you said from the first post. If you make 1 contradiction, even if it is 30 pages apart, someone will catch it.

[CarlosMucha]

Just don't contradict yourself. Stand by everything you said from the first post. If you make 1 contradiction, even if it is 30 pages apart, someone will catch it.


even if you are towny and they will lycnh you or kill you for that. :p

[CarlosMucha]

Yeah, good call. :rolleyes:


ey! I blame the Decepticons who don't like Hot chicks like me! :mad:

[sstralkowski]

ey! I blame the Decepticons who don't like Hot chicks like me! :mad:

Have you wiki'd the character lately?

[CarlosMucha]

Have you wiki'd the character lately?


the Megan Fox character or my character? I wiki both. but the Decepticons as the town take me by surprise. :(

[michiganj24]

Yeah that was teh first thing I pm the Mod. Who is town. After the Rita Repulsa fiasco I wanted nothing to do with an supposed Omac moment
the Megan Fox character or my character? I wiki both. but the Decepticons as the town take me by surprise. :(

[CarlosMucha]

Yeah that was teh first thing I pm the Mod. Who is town. After the Rita Repulsa fiasco I wanted nothing to do with an supposed Omac moment


well. at least I don't roleclaim as a Autobot. :p but still it take me by surprise. :ermm:

[DocDoom187]

I, as I say very often, am predictably un predictable.

I have no 'playing style' as I switch it up every game. The only tell tale sign of my affiliation is f I role claim or if I'm investigated.

Also, I like to try and manipulate the write up. If you're in a mafia and you know player X was once a good guy, send him to do the hits and try to sell him as a Vigi. Or something to that extent.

[MSU]

Read the thread and your role before you come on and say "HEY! I'm an OMAC!" otherwise known as having an "OMAC moment"

[Magnito]

I have no 'playing style' as I switch it up every game. The only tell tale sign of my affiliation is f I role claim
Which you do in every game it seems. :rolleyes:

[sstralkowski]

the Megan Fox character or my character? I wiki both. but the Decepticons as the town take me by surprise. :(

Not Megan Fox. And I'm pretty sure you sunk your own ship this time. You pretty much fired your cannon right into the deck. It was like 3 Stooges meets Titanic.

[kontrol]

Megan Fox?

[Shadow40]

Megan Fox?

Transformers mafia game and one of the funniest damn roleclaims ever.

[Robo-Onion]

As I learned from BYOC, don't pick someone no one would think anyone would ever pick, he's a villain, but you're recruitable neutral. And not getting roleblocked helps. :p

[kontrol]

Guess I'll go over and take a look.

[Shadow40]

Guess I'll go over and take a look.


Its worth a look. I couldn't believe he came out with that roleclaim.

[sstralkowski]

Transformers mafia game and one of the funniest damn roleclaims ever.


b-but you can't lynch ME! I'm too hot! :confused:

[biz567]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[tidge]

As I learned from BYOC, don't pick someone no one would think anyone would ever pick, he's a villain, but you're recruitable neutral. And not getting roleblocked helps. :p

Heh, it wasn't limited to neutrals. Flow chart for Marvel BYOC lynch:

1) Claim your role.

2) Point to write-up where you appear.

3) Explain actions, power, and reason for picking your character.

4) Have players with a man-crush on you ignore 1, 2 and 3 and lynch you for being too suspicious.

[Shadow40]

b-but you can't lynch ME! I'm too hot! :confused:


Not to be harsh, I have made some very bad mistakes in the games but that was too damn funny when he kept coming back to that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Heh, it wasn't limited to neutrals. Flow chart for Marvel BYOC lynch:

1) Claim your role.

2) Point to write-up where you appear.

3) Explain actions, power, and reason for picking your character.

4) Lynch the guy who continuously ignores 1, 2 and 3 and from me and tries to get me lynched.
Fixed it for you.

I know, how dare I let people target me. :rolleyes:

[kontrol]

Just read the relevant Transformers info. Circuit Breaker...wow. Haven't thought about her in years. I think I know what role she would have had too.

But yeah Megan Fox, can't see that one flying?

[thepunisher27]

Make sure you study the content and try to think of a claim that definitley is not to out there but also not to close to being a villain or a threat, because people see right through that. Never claim as being part of a mason group because that alieanates your other mafia members to help you out (seee harry potter 2)

As previously stated get a seperate forum if your in a mafia of around 4 or more.

Always clearly lay out your power and sometimes it's better to let the don use your power instead of you.

DON"T TALK TO MUCH!!!! It's a bad thing it makes you a target and see Ross... in the Funny Marvel game makes people suspicious and then they lynch you.

[Magnito]

Make sure you study the content and try to think of a claim that definitley is not to out there but also not to close to being a villain or a threat, because people see right through that. Never claim as being part of a mason group because that alieanates your other mafia members to help you out (seee harry potter 2)

As previously stated get a seperate forum if your in a mafia of around 4 or more.

Always clearly lay out your power and sometimes it's better to let the don use your power instead of you.

DON"T TALK TO MUCH!!!! It's a bad thing it makes you a target and see Ross... in the Funny Marvel game makes people suspicious and then they lynch you.
Also, don't talk to little, they'll lynch you because of that too.

[kontrol]

Please they'll lynch you, if you breathe the wrong way and there is no lead.

[thepunisher27]

Also, don't talk to little, they'll lynch you because of that too.
Unless you don't play alot of games or atleast used to not play alot of games (talking about me here)

I got away with in Disney not posting except for votes untill the last 6 or so people, it was awesome:)

[thepunisher27]

Read the thread and your role before you come on and say "HEY! I'm an OMAC!" otherwise known as having an "OMAC moment"
I take my bow:nervous: Hey I only hinted at it! Some people got it after the blue text on the outside with the red in the middle though. That I will say was a horrible Idea lol. I shoulda claimed ultron!

[goodman]

DO NOT ANTAGONIZE EVERYONE, this led to the downfall of Cronox i think, it got to a point where everyone didn't even care if he was a townie, he had to die, at least thats what was on my mind in the RE mafia

to be honest one of the best tips i can offer is to keep your mouth shut for most of the game, until about halfway through and then start contributing as "a helpful little townie" hunting down the evil mafia, all the while betraying and backstabbing your way to victory, i haven't managed to pull it off yet but i came close is Sesamme Street and Resident Evil

[biz567]

That's what happened to Doc in a lot of games. If you post random BS and annoy everyone, your done.

[kontrol]

DO NOT ANTAGONIZE EVERYONE, this led to the downfall of Cronox i think, it got to a point where everyone didn't even care if he was a townie, he had to die, at least thats what was on my mind in the RE mafia

to be honest one of the best tips i can offer is to keep your mouth shut for most of the game, until about halfway through and then start contributing as "a helpful little townie" hunting down the evil mafia, all the while betraying and backstabbing your way to victory, i haven't managed to pull it off yet but i came close is Sesamme Street and Resident Evil
Yeah, considering the town win rate. Antagonizing people isn't going to keep you alive. The town has numbers on their side, they can do without you just as easily as they can with you.

[Shadow40]

Yeah, considering the town win rate. Antagonizing people isn't going to keep you alive. The town has numbers on their side, they can do without you just as easily as they can with you.

Too true.....

[deathstroke1134]

Don't roleclaim as Sailor Naruto...

[biz567]

But it was so funny!:laugh:

[CarlosMucha]

Its worth a look. I couldn't believe he came out with that roleclaim.

But.. but... In my mind it was a awesome role claim. I will never lynch Megan Fox!

:laugh:


HOW you could do that?!!

filler.

[CarlosMucha]

Don't roleclaim as Sailor Naruto...


or Sailor Pluto!

how the heck I will know that Sailor Pluto actually exist?! Pluto is not even a planet!

(well, Moon it's not also. :ermm: ).

Anyways.


Don't roleclaim as Neutral EVER!! the town AND the Mafia Lynch you!

[michiganj24]

Ok now that I am dead. If a mafia don dont let who will make the kill get chosen by the mod. Inevitably it will be you right when a cop will come an clear you and teh best you can claim is a PGO

[DocDoom187]

Which you do in every game it seems. :rolleyes:
Only when it benefits me. I like being in the open. That way people don't waste resources on me. Even if I die I will still have helped the team.

[St-Dumas]

Don't go after people you think are evil during the night phase. They make good lynch fodder that distracts the town from you.

[goodman]

Oh yeah, don't try and defend your mafia if they are on a path to being lynched, even not voting for them casts suspicion on you, i had to spin a major web of lies in order to get out of the mess of not lynching one of my fellow mafia people at the beginning of Sesamme Street

[JackAssterson]

ANY tips on how to play a bad guy would be helpful.

1. Don't be one of the people who constantly gets investigated in the first three days.

2. 1 is pretty much all you need. Oh, and DON'T kill blabbermouths. They're your best friend. If someone is revealing roles of townies, they're your best pal until they become inconvenient.

Ignore people going on about "oh, the mafia's gonna kill me now". Many times they have no real importance whatsoever. Kill who is best for your game.

[JackAssterson]

DON"T TALK TO MUCH!!!! It's a bad thing it makes you a target and see Ross... in the Funny Marvel game makes people suspicious and then they lynch you.

It depends on what you say.

Also, don't pull a "Biz" and give up when your role claim is questioned. I've seen the kid have a decent role claim, then throw his hands up in the air when people start to question him. Just act natural and go with the flow.

If you're going to false roleclaim, stick with it, don't jump around.



It depends on your situation. Sometimes "giving up" is actually the best thing for the Mafia. The townies will inevitibly be so pleased that a mafia member is outed that they won't stop to think WHY that member is saying what they are.

[sstralkowski]

DO NOT ANTAGONIZE EVERYONE, this led to the downfall of Cronox i think, it got to a point where everyone didn't even care if he was a townie, he had to die, at least thats what was on my mind in the RE mafia

But it was so much fun in Muppets Mafia, and oh so effective.

[TMNT99]

3) Be willing to vote for your teammates if it comes down to it. If you help vote off 4 townies and mysteriously hold off voting for every mafia member that the town catches, somebody (probably TMNT) will notice.


It's my trademark move :p

[RCricket55]

DO NOT ANTAGONIZE EVERYONE, this led to the downfall of Cronox i think, it got to a point where everyone didn't even care if he was a townie, he had to die, at least thats what was on my mind in the RE mafia

to be honest one of the best tips i can offer is to keep your mouth shut for most of the game, until about halfway through and then start contributing as "a helpful little townie" hunting down the evil mafia, all the while betraying and backstabbing your way to victory, i haven't managed to pull it off yet but i came close is Sesamme Street and Resident Evil

but it was so fun as a PGO Oscar the Grouch.

[Shadow40]

Well when you are the last member of the mafia and they keep getting you confused with Batman and Batman gets taken down, don't arrest nobody the last few days and blame the serial killer for the town not winning. It worked for me. :grin:

[Shadow40]

Well when you are the last member of the mafia and they keep getting you confused with Batman and Batman gets taken down, don't arrest nobody the last few days and blame the serial killer for the town not winning. It worked for me. :grin:

I meant, blame the vigilante and make him out to be the serial killer.

[michiganj24]

Actually I was teh serial killer which made it all the more confusing
I meant, blame the vigilante and make him out to be the serial killer.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Well when you are the last member of the mafia and they keep getting you confused with Batman and Batman gets taken down, don't arrest nobody the last few days and blame the serial killer for the town not winning. It worked for me. :grin:

Though just a warning that you can't always do that depending on the Mafia game. Trust me, I dearly wanted to stop making Hits in "Escape from Hell" but that wasn't allowed. :(

[Jackofhearts2005]

Though just a warning that you can't always do that depending on the Mafia game. Trust me, I dearly wanted to stop making Hits in "Escape from Hell" but that wasn't allowed. :(
Oh, I'll bet. :laugh:

[michiganj24]

Which can be good or we will have a ending like the end of Comic Strip Slaughter where the only reason the game is not still going is a random lynch totally worked
Though just a warning that you can't always do that depending on the Mafia game. Trust me, I dearly wanted to stop making Hits in "Escape from Hell" but that wasn't allowed. :(

[sstralkowski]

I meant, blame the vigilante and make him out to be the serial killer.

Funny how you're so stuck in mafia mode that you posted twice in a row instead of editing the first one. Good thing too, I was this close *holds up fingers* to mod-killing you. :rolleyes: :laugh:

[Shadow40]

Funny how you're so stuck in mafia mode that you posted twice in a row instead of editing the first one. Good thing too, I was this close *holds up fingers* to mod-killing you. :rolleyes: :laugh:

:ermm:

Mod killed?

:angry:

Why you good for nothing beep, beep, beep.

Yep, I'm so used to mafia now I forget that we do have an edit button. :o

[Shadow40]

I edited my post just above this one. What are you going to do about it?

:devious:

:p

[Darkseid Sr.]

I edited my post just above this one. What are you going to do about it?

:devious:

:p

He's going to post insulting things about you, then edit them out.

[sstralkowski]

I must spread the love before rep'ing Shadow40 again.

[CarlosMucha]

tip for be Mafia: DON'T Night KILL CarlosMucha IN Games that he REALLY like. Like Kingdom Come or Disney 3.

Because if you do that he WILL comit a sweet Revenge someday and you will never know WHEN OR HOW! :angry: :angry: :angry:

[turdburglar47]

Learn how to lie. No one's ever believed my lies, and I somehow wind up in mafias a lot.

[Shadow40]

Learn how to lie. No one's ever believed my lies, and I somehow wind up in mafias a lot.

Only one of my lies has ever been believed and that was in No Man's Land. Every other time I have been nailed to the wall. So yeah learning to lie and having a good roleclaim is a must.

[St. Cuthbert]

I was only able to lie successfully once, and that was in CSA mafia. Kept me alive for a lot longer. I was really happy with that game, even though they caught me in the end.

[CarlosMucha]

I don't remember if I EVER was believe in one of my lies. :disappoin

[The BoyBlunder]

Don't analyse the write-up and post it. Because it will make Doc think you are mafia, regardless of if you are or not.

[sstralkowski]

Don't analyse the write-up and post it. Because it will make Doc think you are mafia, regardless of if you are or not.

Speaking from experience?

[biz567]

I don't think I've ever told a lie about not being mafia that someone believed.

[Darkseid Sr.]

I don't think I've ever told a lie about not being mafia that someone believed.

Liar!

:cheeky:

[tidge]

Don't analyse the write-up and post it. Because it will make Doc think you are mafia, regardless of if you are or not.

This is actually a common problem. I recently had investigative powers that required me to keep close track of what everyone was doing...and almost as soon as I made the info public I was on the fast track to a lynch.

[goodman]

I don't think I've ever told a lie about not being mafia that someone believed.

lol, poor biz, i think i've got "I'm Elmo" and "Wesker is neutral" under my belt of lies :p

[Jackofhearts2005]

Don't analyse the write-up and post it. Because it will make Doc think you are mafia, regardless of if you are or not.
Before everybody did that though, I almost won Wild West mafia partially because I did that.

Nobody suspected me til the end of the game. Oh, JoH. He's being so helpful interpreting writeups. :cheeky:

[JackAssterson]

I don't remember if I EVER was believe in one of my lies. :disappoin

I *STILL* think you were Holiday in Arkham. :p

[sstralkowski]

Before everybody did that though, I almost won Wild West mafia partially because I did that.

Nobody suspected me til the end of the game. Oh, JoH. He's being so helpful interpreting writeups. :cheeky:

That feels like so long ago to me. I still think that game was a blast to mod even if it was my first and a bit rough around the edges.

[Jackofhearts2005]

That feels like so long ago to me. I still think that game was a blast to mod even if it was my first and a bit rough around the edges.
I'd still put it in one of my top 5 favorite games.

I'm not a generic indian tracker. I'm John Proudstar.

There was no generic bounty hunter. It was Jonah Hex.

Such an incredibly fun game. I woulda gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that lousy italian plumber. :p

[Antipathy]

I'd still put it in one of my top 5 favorite games.

I'm not a generic indian tracker. I'm John Proudstar.

There was no generic bounty hunter. It was Jonah Hex.

Such an incredibly fun game. I woulda gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that lousy italian plumber. :p

TAK and you should've won. He had the perfect opportunity to win at the end. But for some reason he chose not to. :ermm:

[Jackofhearts2005]

TAK and you should've won. He had the perfect opportunity to win at the end. But for some reason he chose not to. :ermm:
And thus went the first game Iron Ham won by default. ;)

TAK just had to not vote and he had an auto win. I woulda lynched either of them or neither of them and I know Hammie would have lynched TAK before going no lynch.

I'm over it though. I have fond memories of TAK claiming to have "maybe seen" everybody else kill somebody and nobody being suspicious of him and me just keeping him in my back pocket to say "He did it!" at the end.

[sstralkowski]

I'd still put it in one of my top 5 favorite games.

I'm not a generic indian tracker. I'm John Proudstar.

There was no generic bounty hunter. It was Jonah Hex.

Such an incredibly fun game. I woulda gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that lousy italian plumber. :p


Don't forget Reginald Barclay and Brock Rumlow. I did my best to make every character have some link to another source. I'm really glad someone still remembers it. Makes me feel good. Thanks.

[The BoyBlunder]

This is actually a common problem. I recently had investigative powers that required me to keep close track of what everyone was doing...and almost as soon as I made the info public I was on the fast track to a lynch.
Thing is, even when I am town I do it. I don't think helping the town should make you a suspicous person. Anti got lucky when he called me out in KC.

[Antipathy]

Thing is, even when I am town I do it. I don't think helping the town should make you a suspicous person. Anti got lucky when he called me out in KC.

But the format by which you posted your analysis of the write-up (Quoting the write-up, putting you comments in bold) IIRC had only been done one other time by you, which was when you were in a mafia.

And that is why I caught you. Not because you were trying to help the town, but because you did something you had only done one other time.

[The BoyBlunder]

But the format by which you posted your analysis of the write-up (Quoting the write-up, putting you comments in bold) IIRC had only been done one other time by you, which was when you were in a mafia.

And that is why I caught you. Not because you were trying to help the town, but because you did something you had only done one other time.
I'm pretty sure I've done that other times. I was immitating others players who had done the same. If I have done it before as non-mafia, then you got lucky, plain and simple.

[DocDoom187]

Anti didn't get lucky. You did a similar thing in South Park. Being overly helpful, and giving theories out of nowhere with no solid info source.


ABF did the same thing in NML and I called him on it and he ended up being mafia. It's a tactic a lot of people do when they're mafia. They try too hard to look like a townie.

[JackAssterson]

It's a tactic a lot of people do when they're mafia. They try too hard to look like a townie.

So what happens if you try too hard to look like Mafia?

[Darkseid Sr.]

So what happens if you try too hard to look like Mafia?

You are Ross...

[DocDoom187]

So what happens if you try too hard to look like Mafia?
Then you're me....unfortunately.


:p

[The BoyBlunder]

Anti didn't get lucky. You did a similar thing in South Park. Being overly helpful, and giving theories out of nowhere with no solid info source.


ABF did the same thing in NML and I called him on it and he ended up being mafia. It's a tactic a lot of people do when they're mafia. They try too hard to look like a townie.
I always do it though. I did it in ABF's Xtermination, where I was town.

[Darkseid Sr.]

I always do it though. I did it in ABF's Xtermination, where I was town.

And then the mafia killed you. Hm.

[DocDoom187]

I always do it though. I did it in ABF's Xtermination, where I was town.
Ah, but there you claimed as a form of tracker. So the info wasn't out of nowhere. You had basis. And you didn't guess about the mafia
s abilities, just about who is who. Big difference.

[The BoyBlunder]

Ah, but there you claimed as a form of tracker. So the info wasn't out of nowhere. You had basis. And you didn't guess about the mafia
s abilities, just about who is who. Big difference.
Not really. Like I said, I always do it, and I include any information I have. I did it in DC Zombies, where I WAS town. I was recruited later.

[tidge]

I do a similar write-up whether I am mafia or not. When I was don I made sure I shared it with my crew.

One thing I've noticed about analysing write-ups: some players get extremely protective about their pet theories, and express some resentment if another player's analysis doesn't match their own...it only takes a couple of players like this and you are on your way to a lynch.

[CarlosMucha]

I *STILL* think you were Holiday in Arkham. :p


He he he. I have to remember how the heck I did that. :p

[majinmagog]

I think the best way to get tips on being mafia would be to ask the power rangers.

[DocDoom187]

The power rangers did well because we had great communication


(and we tied up Ross and threw him in a locked closet during the game. Ssssshhhh)


:cheeky:

[Rokk_Krinn]

And DocDoom barely ever remembered to pop on either our communication board or the game, so, y'know, we had that going for us as well. :grin:

[DocDoom187]

And DocDoom barely ever remembered to pop on either our communication board or the game, so, y'know, we had that going for us as well. :grin:
Hardy har har.

I could stop a lynch, but never had to. So I didn't need to do anything.

I take back what I said about you on the 10 people on an Island thread.:mad: :angry:

:cheeky:

[kontrol]

Don't analyse the write-up and post it. Because it will make Doc think you are mafia, regardless of if you are or not.
i do it enough when I have time. Never really had a problem with it before.

[batfink]

What makes a good roleclaim?
Recently, I made 2 false roleclaims that I thought were OK, but I still got nailed. In Disney, I tried to infer on Day 1 I was the Jackalope, but no one even gave it a second thought when I claimed it.

[goodman]

i think because it was a very weak roleclaim, it wasn't a character based on any of the pixar/disney main films and just didn't cut it, the guy who's claiming to be Mirage is doing a bit better, she's a fairly prodominate character in a film and it's not totally unbelievable that she'd be in the game

[tidge]

IMO, roleclaims are totally at the mercy of the crowd. Sometimes a couple of vocal posters get it in their head that a roleclaim isn't plausible and there is nothing you can do about it. For example, in the SSquad thread I thought our mafia had some good roleclaims, but unfortunately for us (aside from being really unlucky in our kill ratio) the game featured characters from an extremely narrow story window (basically the Legends mini-series), and it was practically impossible to make a claim.

Counter-example: I truthfully claimed Doug Ramsey in the BYOC and at least four players insisted it was a lie. I guess because I wasn't creative enough to choose Rogue/Wolverine/Juggernaught :cross-eye

Another weird variant of the problem is having a role that you don't want to role claim because the character is sure to get a lynch based on the name alone!

[malakim2099]

Another weird variant of the problem is having a role that you don't want to role claim because the character is sure to get a lynch based on the name alone!

Or if the person that you're claiming to be actually is IN the game, and gets lynched. ;)

Which is what happened to me in the Doctor Who game St. Cuthbert ran... my first mafia and I end up as a Don. :eek:

And another problem with mafias is that... well, they can often act in cross-purposes if there's more than one out there. At least, that's been my experience so far. Any ways to counter that?

OHNOES I EDITED THE POST I R TEH CHEATA! :p

[Doombot 3.1]

What makes a good roleclaim?
Recently, I made 2 false roleclaims that I thought were OK, but I still got nailed. In Disney, I tried to infer on Day 1 I was the Jackalope, but no one even gave it a second thought when I claimed it.

Honestly, the reason you got lynched in Disney 3 wasn't the roleclaim, but the fact that the write-up made it clear that the townie busdriver targeted you, switching you with Oogie. Even the best roleclaim isn't going to do much against such overwhelming evidence.

[Magnito]

I don't think the Jackalope was a good claim. Why would a short character be there when everyone else was a feature film character?
Groovy's claim of Mirage was much more believable.

[goodman]

Hmmmmmm, after somehow winning Lost Room i'd have to say the following works well;

1. Shut up and be quiet
2. Use your one shot kill to kill another badguy who isn't on your mafia
3. Try and have one of your teammates alive near the end of the game
4. Manipulate everyone at the end, make the town lynch each other like crazy and then when the majority can't be reached without a mafia member voting the town are buggered :)

[sstralkowski]

Hmmmmmm, after somehow winning Lost Room i'd have to say the following works well;

1. Shut up and be quiet
2. Use your one shot kill to kill another badguy who isn't on your mafia
3. Try and have one of your teammates alive near the end of the game
4. Manipulate everyone at the end, make the town lynch each other like crazy and then when the majority can't be reached without a mafia member voting the town are buggered :)

Sounds like my first mafia ever.

[Antipathy]

4. Manipulate everyone at the end, make the town lynch each other like crazy and then when the majority can't be reached without a mafia member voting the town are buggered :)

There was no "town lynching each other like crazy". I think only 2-3 townies were lynched.

And you can't manipulate people if you're quiet. :p

I think the only time any mafia manipulated townies to lynch townies was when da-craig provided more evidence backing up my wrong theory of Ra1serblade being Order. And that was in the mid-game.

[goodman]

lol, yeah but didn't me and mich get people to lynch you at the end? or was the TAK and we just followed? i'm not sure, i just love the fact that we somehow managed to pull off a win when we had no night kill power at all between us, except for that one time kill i used on CFGuy, seriously that was a hard/deserved win all things considering

[kontrol]

Honestly, the reason you got lynched in Disney 3 wasn't the roleclaim, but the fact that the write-up made it clear that the townie busdriver targeted you, switching you with Oogie. Even the best roleclaim isn't going to do much against such overwhelming evidence.
Yeah, that was a brutal night for us.

[Antipathy]

lol, yeah but didn't me and mich get people to lynch you at the end? or was the TAK and we just followed? i'm not sure, i just love the fact that we somehow managed to pull off a win when we had no night kill power at all between us, except for that one time kill i used on CFGuy, seriously that was a hard/deserved win all things considering

At the end it was you, your teammate, and TAK who lynched me. However, TAK was also mafia, but he most likely would not win unless I died. That is why he helped lynch me.

[goodman]

Lol, really? man you had no chance of winning at that point did you townies? having 3 mafia members alive in the final 4 players :p

[michiganj24]

It was definetly TAK and others we were mere followers. Even at the end when I figured out what was going on(although i still havent figured out what those Bill meets Suzie parts were in teh write-ups)I just let them lead and appear to be meek townies not killed because we were quiet

[sstralkowski]

Alright, I want to know people's opinions on the following. Is it better to

A) play the same way no matter what your alignment is so that people can't predict it based on your actions

OR

B) Play using a different style each and every game so that people can't get a bead on you.

IMO either way, people don't know when to trust you. It's when you have an obvious tell that people pick up on it. Thoughts?

[kontrol]

Alright, I want to know people's opinions on the following. Is it better to

A) play the same way no matter what your alignment is so that people can't predict it based on your actions

OR

B) Play using a different style each and every game so that people can't get a bead on you.

IMO either way, people don't know when to trust you. It's when you have an obvious tell that people pick up on it. Thoughts?
B.

I think you have a chance to get typecasted as mafia if you play like A too many times and are mafia in a few of them. Look at what happened to Rokk for a spell.