New Mafia ideas Discussion Thread

[Amora's_best_friend]

This is a thread for discussion of new ideas and whether they'd work etc. etc.

I had an idea:

A neutral mason group that gets to choose who they win with at a set point in the game. For example, at the start of day 5, they get to choose which side they win with.

Do you think that could work?

[hellskingpin]

I don't know if it'd work, but it sounds cool and interesting

[Doombot 3.1]

I like the idea of a neutral mason group with their own agenda and win condition.

However, I'm not so sure that letting them choose who to align with is such a great idea.

Most independents (with the notable exception of serial killers) align themselves with the town just to avoid being lynched. Your neutral mason group will probably choose to do that, if given the choice.

I'm not seeing why this neutral mason group would choose to align with the mafia. They wouldn't be able to communicate with the mafia, so it's still quite possible (perhaps even likely) that the mafia will target them for night kills. If that's the case, why bother to ally with the mafia?

If you somehow let the mafia know that the neutral mason group has decided to ally with them (perhaps a pm to the Don with the names of the mason group members), then you've effectively allowed the mafia to recruit a number of new members. That's potentially unbalancing, as it could make the mafia more powerful.

I like the idea of a neutral mason group very much. But I'd give them their own agenda and win condition. Make them a true independent party.

[michiganj24]

When I was reseraching my first game on mafia scum I found that a game was planned that would have no town but just mafia and that nobody would know it. Personally I did not think it would work but what do you guys thinks

[hellskingpin]

People tend to talk less when their mafia I'm sure there wouldn't be a lot of talking in that game.

[michiganj24]

Oh so it would be just like my other games then lol. & days 7 pages
People tend to talk less when their mafia I'm sure there wouldn't be a lot of talking in that game.

[DocDoom187]

Interesting Michigan. And the last team standing is the winner?

[michiganj24]

Thats what i got was the intneded goal but i never watched teh game to find out. I also dont know if it would be something you announce at the beginning of the game (I would think not). If someone would do it they would need to be a very experinced mod to deal with any complications
Interesting Michigan. And the last team standing is the winner?

[MSU]

I think we have run into a rut that neutral = anti town. Neutral could be anti-town or anti-mafia or have their own agenda. But anytime someone claims neutral, the town lynches them.

I think neutral characters are the ones that can win with either side.

[Doombot 3.1]

One more idea to throw out there. I was a miller/bomb in the Democrazy game. I didn't know that I was either, and only found out when I was impeached.

Now, that strikes me as a truly nasty surprise for the town. I like it. :devious:

[Amora's_best_friend]

One more idea to throw out there. I was a miller/bomb in the Democrazy game. I didn't know that I was either, and only found out when I was impeached.

Now, that strikes me as a truly nasty surprise for the town. I like it. :devious:

Millers are fun, especially when they have a really useful power.

[hellskingpin]

What does the term miller actually mean?

[Amora's_best_friend]

What does the term miller actually mean?

In the context of the original game, the miller is the guy that lives on the edge of the town that no-one trusts.

He is a townie, but everyone thinks he's mafia.

[hellskingpin]

It just means a townie who shows up as evil to tracking?

[Amora's_best_friend]

It just means a townie who shows up as evil to tracking?

Yeah.

:cool:

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think we have run into a rut that neutral = anti town. Neutral could be anti-town or anti-mafia or have their own agenda. But anytime someone claims neutral, the town lynches them.

I think neutral characters are the ones that can win with either side.
In general, I agree.

However, not that I'm talking about any games in particular, if I catch a neutral in a lie or if someone claims as a neutral character that would want my character dead, I then see them as next to mafia.

[goodman]

Hmmmmm, miller, thats going into my next fake rolecliam when i'm mafia again :p

[Magnito]

Hmmmmm, miller, thats going into my next fake rolecliam when i'm mafia again :p
Because no one has ever done that before :rolleyes:

[goodman]

So we know originality is out the window, but what about it's success rate? :cheeky:

[hellskingpin]

What's a good ability for a mercenary/hired out-type character? I know in JLA 2 TMNT had Lobo, but I don't remember how that worked or if it worked well or not.

[Jackofhearts2005]

What's a good ability for a mercenary/hired out-type character? I know in JLA 2 TMNT had Lobo, but I don't remember how that worked or if it worked well or not.
You can always create a money system.

Have the merc target a player to see if he can hire him or else have only a few people with money and the highest bidder gets to use the merc.

[goodman]

Thats actually a brilliant idea JoH, they could do a mafia game like everyone has a certain amount of money on them, Townies will have less because there are more of them, and each mafia member is worth a substantial amount, and both the town and the mafia have a recruiter who can recruit certain nuetral parties/mercs who all have different powers, who ever offers the mercs more money gets them for that night if they are targetted by both recruiters, the mercs win condition could be to attain a certain amount of money, when they do they retire and win :laugh:, wow, i so may do a merc mafia game stealing all the Marvel and DC's best mercs, Deathstroke, Deadpool, other cool mercs, i could call it Marvel/DC Hired Guns Mafia

[Jackofhearts2005]

wow, i so may do a merc mafia game stealing all the Marvel and DC's best mercs, Deathstroke, Deadpool, other cool mercs, i could call it Marvel/DC Hired Guns Mafia
Do it.

Make sure to throw in Juggernaut, Bullseye, Merlyn, and Constantine Drakon as well. :)

[goodman]

i would but i'm doing Titans soon and HCRealms Elseworld with BoyBlunder after that, to be honest i'd like someone else to do it so i can play :)

I'd love to be Deathstroke ;)

[hellskingpin]

Thats actually a brilliant idea JoH, they could do a mafia game like everyone has a certain amount of money on them, Townies will have less because there are more of them, and each mafia member is worth a substantial amount, and both the town and the mafia have a recruiter who can recruit certain nuetral parties/mercs who all have different powers, who ever offers the mercs more money gets them for that night if they are targetted by both recruiters, the mercs win condition could be to attain a certain amount of money, when they do they retire and win :laugh:, wow, i so may do a merc mafia game stealing all the Marvel and DC's best mercs, Deathstroke, Deadpool, other cool mercs, i could call it Marvel/DC Hired Guns Mafia
That sounds so cool, if no one else does it i'll do it after 2099

[goodman]

YES!!!!!!!!!! The system works!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hellskingpin]

Do it.

Make sure to throw in Juggernaut, Bullseye, Merlyn, and Constantine Drakon as well. :)
Taskmaster, Deadpool, Heroes for Hire, Deathstroke, Deadshot, Lobo, any other must haves?

[michiganj24]

Heres a good page for you and if you want to get really fun you could throw in some non big 2 people like SStrat has done in Transformers like Boba Fett or Major Bludd just o be tricky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_mercenaries
Taskmaster, Deadpool, Heroes for Hire, Deathstroke, Deadshot, Lobo, any other must haves?

[CarlosMucha]

editing my post. i get the answer in the other thread. :p

[Jackofhearts2005]

Taskmaster, Deadpool, Heroes for Hire, Deathstroke, Deadshot, Lobo, any other must haves?
Maybe Ravager and Deadline.

I don't want to give you a character list, just some ideas. ;)

[michiganj24]

Ravager(S) there have been quite a few all from teh same family
Maybe Ravager and Deadline.

I don't want to give you a character list, just some ideas. ;)

[hellskingpin]

I might run this in two segments; Marvel Mercs and DC's Hired Guns mafias. I would do the Marvel one first. Would there be more interest for this then my 2099 Marvel mafia?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I would be more interested in the mercs one but I think you should do 2099 first.

We've gotten to see a lot of the mercs in other games but I'm pretty sure all the 2099 characters have yet to see the light of mafia.

[YosiP]

I have always had the Idea of a heroclix mafia.

[Amora's_best_friend]

Opinions on this role for a game I'm running on the rope forum (basically a copy of Realmsers mafia - where everyone plays a fellow forum member).


You are Tphi, the owner of N-Europe, the head honcho.

You've been away for a while, and you come back to find your forum is in dissarray! Banned members are back and the staff have run riot, indiscriminately banning everyone!

Who will you side with? Who will help you bring peace back to the forum?

You cannot be banned (aka nightkilled).

Once per game, when someone receives the majority vote to be lynched, you may PM me with the name of a player who has also received a lynch vote during this day phase. This player will be lynched instead of the player that received the majority vote. If you choose to use this power when the town decides to lynch no-one, you may choose to lynch someone regardless of votes cast.

You have the power to close the forum at short notice. Twice per game, you may PM me, and the current phase will end. If it is a day phase, the day will end without a lynch.

At the start of day 4, you must decide which faction you will win with. I will give you a choice of possible factions to join when the time comes.

You will not be taken into consideration when calculating whether the mafia holds the majority.

Quite a complicated role, but fun.

Thoughts?

[RCricket55]

I think we have run into a rut that neutral = anti town. Neutral could be anti-town or anti-mafia or have their own agenda. But anytime someone claims neutral, the town lynches them.

I think neutral characters are the ones that can win with either side.

Mostly because some neutral are against town and it's always better to lynch them over a townie. Without a known mafia target I'll go for a neutral everytime.

[kontrol]

I have always had the Idea of a heroclix mafia.
IIRC, Peers was going to do that before he had to step away from modding it.

[Doombot 3.1]

I'd been thinking of a neutral character who has to make a choice after the first night: Join the town or join the mafia. What power he gets depends on which faction he joins; if he chooses mafia, he gets a better power.

[Amora's_best_friend]

Can you give me feedback on this modified jester role:

You are arab_freak, the guy so narcissistic he has a whole thread dedicated to pictures of himself. You don't care if you get banned, as long as it happens with you in the centre of attention.

You cannot be nightbanned.

You win when you are lynched on the day after someone tries to nightban you.

You cannot win in any other way.


Could be funny.

Like trying to explain how he's evil when someone tried to kill him.

[CarlosMucha]

IIRC, Peers was going to do that before he had to step away from modding it.


yea. that was really sad. since them he has never comeback to Mafia Games. :cry:

I really wish he can play in my games. He starter all. :sleep:

[hellskingpin]

Hows about this for a twist: two mafia games are running at the exact same time, then, unexpected, when it hits a certain day they combine into one game! This would only work if there were no duplicate players which probably couldn't happen.

[CarlosMucha]

Hows about this for a twist: two mafia games are running at the exact same time, then, unexpected, when it hits a certain day they combine into one game! This would only work if there were no duplicate players which probably couldn't happen.


that could be Crisis of Infinite Earths Mafia Gamer! :grin:

[hellskingpin]

How awesome would that be....20 marvel....20 dc....all of a sudden worlds collide when the games combine

[michiganj24]

Well one way to do it would be is get 40 to sign up for it and then segregate them into 2 groups then when they combine it could get very interesting
Hows about this for a twist: two mafia games are running at the exact same time, then, unexpected, when it hits a certain day they combine into one game! This would only work if there were no duplicate players which probably couldn't happen.

[The BoyBlunder]

How about my idea for a Crazed Vigillante?

Town alligned with a night kill power. If he ever kills a townie he becomes an independant serial killer.

[hellskingpin]

I like it.

[michiganj24]

I like funny i was thinking about a role like that for one of my games cuz it is nice and twisted. I dont like games too predictable
How about my idea for a Crazed Vigillante?

Town alligned with a night kill power. If he ever kills a townie he becomes an independant serial killer.

[majinmagog]

I did something like that. A townie was so distraught over one of the other townies deaths that they became a vig. However if the person who killed their friend/love didn't get brought to justice in some way ala lynch or night killed within three days the townie became a serial killer.

[goodman]

i thought of a weird idea, a mafia game based on mario cart double dash, basically have an even number of players, pair them up, one of the pair may post during the day phase, the other may perform an action during the night phase, and then have them switch around after the night phase has ended, throw in some of the crazy objects in the game, make a rule where if your teammate has died and there is another player without a teammate they are allowed to team up, aim of the game is to get rid of the bad drivers, aka Bowser, Wario and all the others, what do you think?

[Antipathy]

i thought of a weird idea, a mafia game based on mario cart double dash, basically have an even number of players, pair them up, one of the pair may post during the day phase, the other may perform an action during the night phase, and then have them switch around after the night phase has ended, throw in some of the crazy objects in the game, make a rule where if your teammate has died and there is another player without a teammate they are allowed to team up, aim of the game is to get rid of the bad drivers, aka Bowser, Wario and all the others, what do you think?

That sounds pretty neat!

[Darkseid Sr.]

You know what would be goofy? Dr. Seuss mafia.

[DocDoom187]

You know what would be goofy? Dr. Seuss mafia.
We would need a creative mod for the write ups.

[Amora's_best_friend]

Be prepared for the Gay Bar mafia!


lol.

[Darkseid Sr.]

We would need a creative mod for the write ups.

It would be all rhymey and such.

[goodman]

That sounds pretty neat!

Yeah, it'll have to go on the big back burner of mafias i've got to do, after Titans, What Else Realms and such

[madslaust]

i thought of a weird idea, a mafia game based on mario cart double dash, basically have an even number of players, pair them up, one of the pair may post during the day phase, the other may perform an action during the night phase, and then have them switch around after the night phase has ended, throw in some of the crazy objects in the game, make a rule where if your teammate has died and there is another player without a teammate they are allowed to team up, aim of the game is to get rid of the bad drivers, aka Bowser, Wario and all the others, what do you think?

I like it! Sounds fascinating!

[GroovyBoy]

I have always had the Idea of a heroclix mafia.

I was thinking about this, too. You pick certain figures to be the characters. They have abilities based on what 'click' they are on. When things happen to them, they take a certain amount of damage, and if they don't get KOed, they may have new abilities because their dial could be different...

[DocDoom187]

Peers tried it, it didn't quite workout for him. I'm sure he wouldn't mind someone else giving Clix mafia a try.

[The BoyBlunder]

I've been thinking about it. And it would have a unique form of lynching.

Rather than majority, each player would have a certain number of votes that had to be reached before they were lunched, and each player would have control over a certain amount of votes.

It might only take one or two people to lynch someone, depending on the voters and the target, but I think it would be cool.

[Antipathy]

each player would have a certain number of votes that had to be reached before they were lunched,

Yummy yummy in my tummy :classic:

[The BoyBlunder]

Yummy yummy in my tummy :classic:
From one Zombie Batman to another, I agree.

[hellskingpin]

20 Marvel, 20 DC , two separate games that might combine mid-game. Neither game knows can read the other, and there could be some surprise "universe jumping" before the combining of the two. It's like Marvel vs. DC and both universes are colliding. Is this dumb? I want more feedback.

[Pashmina]

I don't understand this thread.

Surely the whole bag of that 40 player game is now ruined?

:confused:

[Space Jawa]

I'm just going to throw this idea out there: A Mafia game that lacks a town. Two to Five Mafias, a few neutrals thrown in, and the winners are those from the last Mafia left standing and any neutrals left alive when that happens.

Feasible? Ridiculous? Stupidly Brilliant?

[Doombot 3.1]

I'm just going to throw this idea out there: A Mafia game that lacks a town. Two to Five Mafias, a few neutrals thrown in, and the winners are those from the last Mafia left standing and any neutrals left alive when that happens.

Feasible? Ridiculous? Stupidly Brilliant?

Sounds like fun. I'd think it'd work better with five mafias--there's potential for shifting alliances, which you won't have with only 2 mafias. Also, I wouldn't tell the players that there are no townies. It's better if the players have to figure that out for themselves. :devious:

[GroovyBoy]

What are some game abilities people have given to invisible superheroes?

[get_1]

20 Marvel, 20 DC , two separate games that might combine mid-game. Neither game knows can read the other, and there could be some surprise "universe jumping" before the combining of the two. It's like Marvel vs. DC and both universes are colliding. Is this dumb? I want more feedback.


How about a game where either Marvel or DC is the town, and the other is the mafia! :)

Edit: Maybe add a BYOC component to it as well, except you don't get to be the character that you brought.

[Ignatz_Mouse]

I just discovered this thread, and I see the Clix Mafia game idea is not new.

In my idea, people were just animated pieces.

[frankmiller1]

vivid entertainment mafia, anyone?
i don't do mafia games, but even I would play that one!

[michiganj24]

Yeah and would probably lead to most of the players getting warning points for discussing it:laugh:
vivid entertainment mafia, anyone?
i don't do mafia games, but even I would play that one!

[batfink]

I've thought about an OTR mafia, but Kalel & I are probably the only ones who would know who all the characters are.

[The BoyBlunder]

It would be fun to do a BSEC game. That would be Build Someone Else's Character.

Each player submits a character, and they are then randomly assigned.

[hellskingpin]

It would be fun to do a BSEC game. That would be Build Someone Else's Character.

Each player submits a character, and they are then randomly assigned.
That would be really cool. Run it!

[Amora's_best_friend]

That would be actually quite a good idea.

I'd be torn between submitting a really funny uselful person or a really funny un-useful person.

[The BoyBlunder]

That would be really cool. Run it!
Maybe after 52, HCrealms What Else Mafia, Homestar Runner, Pirates vs Ninjas...

On second thought... You run it!

[hellskingpin]

Actually I want you to run homestarrunner and 52. Sure I'll run it after 2099 and two others I have planned....on second thought someone else run it!

[goodman]

Rise from the dead, mafia ideas thread!!!!!!

Just wondering what people may think to a Be Your Own Badguy mafia, although i'm not sure if it's already been done, i was thinking about dong something fun/crazy in it like throwing in 3 or 4 mafia Dons on their own, who have the ability to recruit upto 3 of the townies to be in their mafias, so all of the townies (or most) are recruitable but when all the mafias have been formed they will no longer be able to be recruited, so yeah, Badguys killing each other, A LOT, and you can like pick and choose your own mafia if you are a don, :p

Waddya think? Good idea? poor idea? crazy idea?

[hellskingpin]

That sounds cool you know I would join.

[goodman]

Yeah, i'm so torn as to what to do for my next mafia, i'm going to be co-moding What Else mafia with BoyBlunder soon, not sure which one of these will be my next mafia though, Be Your Own Badguy or Mario Kart Mafia, arrrggh, i need to stop planning these kinda cool mafia ideas

[hellskingpin]

I'd be interested in the bad guy one, I don't know how much so with the mario kart one.

[Darkseid Sr.]

After Battle of the Bands I'll probably run a game based off of the Batman: Hush storyline, some really good roles in that series.

[Amora's_best_friend]

Had some ideas earlier today:

Psychiatrist - Can turn naive, insane or paranoid cops into normal cops. Can turn serial killers into townies. Can make PGOs safe to target. Can turn ineffective doctors into normal doctors.

The Godfather's mother - when she's alive none of her mafia members can be killed, and theres a 50% a mafia member will appear good when investigated when she's alive.

[goodman]

Oooooo, i like those roles ABF, very cool ;)

I may steal them :p


While we're on here Be Your Own Badguy mafia could always use some extra players :classic:

[michiganj24]

I think the godfather's mother might be a little too powerful. Maybe she gives a chance at protection but not complete
Had some ideas earlier today:

Psychiatrist - Can turn naive, insane or paranoid cops into normal cops. Can turn serial killers into townies. Can make PGOs safe to target. Can turn ineffective doctors into normal doctors.

The Godfather's mother - when she's alive none of her mafia members can be killed, and theres a 50% a mafia member will appear good when investigated when she's alive.

[Amora's_best_friend]

I think the godfather's mother might be a little too powerful. Maybe she gives a chance at protection but not complete

I don't think it's that broken, since most of the games I moderate the mafia's chances at winning are always ruined by serial killers.

In London By Lamplight mafia, The Joker couldn't kill any of the mafia, and would effectively just waste a night if he targeted one of them.

And if the vig were to target a member of the mafia, they'd easily see in the write-up that their target was evil.

[michiganj24]

Yes but it still would not matter if you know who every evil person is if they cant be killed then say you discover the whole mafia but they can continue to pick off townies because they are immune to death. Now if it was just immune to nighkills i could take that but immune to lynches is too powerful
I don't think it's that broken, since most of the games I moderate the mafia's chances at winning are always ruined by serial killers.

In London By Lamplight mafia, The Joker couldn't kill any of the mafia, and would effectively just waste a night if he targeted one of them.

And if the vig were to target a member of the mafia, they'd easily see in the write-up that their target was evil.

[Amora's_best_friend]

Yes but it still would not matter if you know who every evil person is if they cant be killed then say you discover the whole mafia but they can continue to pick off townies because they are immune to death. Now if it was just immune to nighkills i could take that but immune to lynches is too powerful

Yeah I meant immune to nightkills.

Realistically being immune to lynches is slightly too gamebreaking in any situation.

[Thawmus]

For mafia ideas:


I said it before, I'll say it again. If you guys want to run a themed vanilla game, you are more than welcome to try it. I have not claimed "dibs" on vanilla. It'd be ridiculous for me to, anyways.

[Darkseid Sr.]

What about a game with absolutely no mafia in it, and a completely random death each night? That would suck!

[Amora's_best_friend]

What about a game with absolutely no mafia in it, and a completely random death each night? That would suck!

*Wants to say something here, but daren't until a certain game is over*

[Pashmina]

*Wants to say something here, but daren't until a certain game is over*

*literally clapped at this post*

[michiganj24]

Oh ok that makes a bit more sense i could see that then being fine
Yeah I meant immune to nightkills.

Realistically being immune to lynches is slightly too gamebreaking in any situation.

[CFGuy]

The Godfather's mother - when she's alive none of her mafia members can be killed, and theres a 50% a mafia member will appear good when investigated when she's alive.

hehe, wouldn't it be more likely that as long as the mother is alive, all the mafia members have to behave and can't kill anyone if she is watching them.

:laugh:

"What da ya mean, you whacked someone in front of my sainted mother!"

[Doombot 3.1]

The Godfather's mother - when she's alive none of her mafia members can be killed, and theres a 50% a mafia member will appear good when investigated when she's alive.

That's a cool idea. It would work best in a game with 2 mafias, because whenever there are 2 mafias, they always seem to wind up killing each other instead of townies. :cheeky:

However, I would make it so that she only confers immunity to night-kills from the other mafia and the vigilante. The serial killer should still be able to kill mafia members, as that role is already very difficult to win with and doesn't need still more obstacles.

[michiganj24]

Ehh difficulties shmiffuclties lol i had a one in three chance of failing my kills as Sk and still won. You just need to BS like you are from washington


However, I would make it so that she only confers immunity to night-kills from the other mafia and the vigilante. The serial killer should still be able to kill mafia members, as that role is already very difficult to win with and doesn't need still more obstacles.

[Zaq]

I had an idea for a Bible mafia game, using heroes and villains from the Old Testament. Examples include Joseph, the Pharoah, Moses, Goliath, etc. The only trouble is that it comes rather close to violating the terms of use involving discussing religion. No huge religious figures like Jesus or God would be in it, because it's mostly using the people as characters in a setting like Greek or Roman mythology.
Does anyone have any thoughts as to whether that would be acceptable? Or if that sounds like something you would enjoy?

[CFGuy]

I had an idea for a Bible mafia game, using heroes and villains from the Old Testament. Examples include Joseph, the Pharoah, Moses, Goliath, etc. The only trouble is that it comes rather close to violating the terms of use involving discussing religion. No huge religious figures like Jesus or God would be in it, because it's mostly using the people as characters in a setting like Greek or Roman mythology.
Does anyone have any thoughts as to whether that would be acceptable? Or if that sounds like something you would enjoy?


I would sign up for this one.