View Full Version : MHW GAP: Luke Cage/Animal Man vs. Psimon/Wrecker
Welcome to the Grab a Partner (or Gap) TOC. In this MHW division we have 64 fighters waiting to go. In the first round they will be randomly paired up into team of 2. The teams will face off and half of them will be eliminated. The remaining fighters will be re-paired up in the following round until only two people are left and will fight for the championship.
During the fight, the fighters get no extra knowledge about their opponents besides what they already know, but they do know the names of who they are fighting. All characters get whatever equipment is standard for them. Team receive minimal prep time (approximately 5 minutes)
Luke Cage & Animal Man
vs.
Psimon & Wrecker
Terrain:
Jurassic Park
Straight from the famous novel/movie, the fighters find themselves in the middle of Jurassic Park, dinosaurs included. Although there are giant electric fences to separate the dinos from the people, the electricity is off and some of the dinosaurs are loose. There are some research centers, but most of the terrain consists of large open fields or dense jungle. Most of the dinosaurs will avoid the action all together.
Round 1
Grey Gargoyle & Paibok vs. Storm & Rhino: Grey Gargoyle & Paibok lead (5-0)
Doc Samson & Elsa Bloodstone vs. X-O Manowar & Jesse Quick: X-O Manowar & Jesse Quick lead (4-1)
Colossus & Judge Death vs. Hogun & Plastic Man: Colossus & Judge Death lead (4-3)
Ghost Rider & Floronic Man vs. Blazing Skull & Blackfire: Blazing Skull & Blackfire lead (3-2)
Danger & Nightshade vs. Dr. Alchemy & Songbird: Dr. Alchemy & Songbird lead (2-1)
Luke Cage & Animal Man vs. Psimon & Wrecker: ?????
Ooh, Psimon is going to be tough to beat by these two, especially with a bodyguard like Wrecker. Not that they'll get along at all... still, two melee-only people, probably lacking surprise, against a telepath? My vote: Psimon.
Jackofhearts2005
01/30/2008, 18:03
I concur.
Put me down for Psimon and Wrecker
Man what a ridiculous terrain pull for Animal Man to get and then lose in.
spiderman9797
01/30/2008, 19:03
Animal Man seems like a kinda crappy M-HW, to me.:rolleyes:
Nah, he's very versatile, flies, supersenses, *anything* an animal can do.
CornsilkSW
01/30/2008, 19:08
Animal Man and Luke Cage get my vote here.
Psimon is a nasty customer for them to deal with, what with both of them being vulnerable to psychic attack... but the terrain here is going to be FAR more deadly than the actual combat.
Wrecker is dumb as a stump, and even following Psimon's orders to go bodyguard for him, he's still going to waltz around the place until a pack of raptors spot the two of them.
Animal Man and Cage are canny enough to avoid the carnivores, and smart enough to pick a time to fight AFTER Psimon has already been eaten.
They'll bide their time, busting the deadliest dinos out of the pens, and then take Wrecker out with ease after his partner has been gobbled up like Alpo.
spiderman9797
01/30/2008, 19:17
Nah, he's very versatile, flies, supersenses, *anything* an animal can do.
And I don't consider that HW material, personally.:ermm:
Maniac_nmt
01/30/2008, 19:23
We already saw the Wrecker beat the holy freakin' snot out of Luke Cage+Wolverine+Spider-man+Spider Woman.
He was utterly oblitering the team.
Cage isn't going to get it done vs Wrecker this time either.
Psimon and Wrecker get my vote.
spiderman9797
01/30/2008, 19:29
Can Psimon psychically attack a raptor? What about 8 of them?
If he can't, then he will fall in this place fast. Raptors were incredibly smart, and they adapted and learned and moved in strategic formations as well as any animal ever.
Raptor's also will find him quick, considering they're all over the place in Jurassic Park.
The fight cannot be determined by the raptors. As the terrain states, all dinosaurs will naturally avoid the fighters.
spiderman9797
01/30/2008, 19:36
"Most" of the dinosaurs. And every other dinosaur but a raptor -would- ignore the fight. But not a pack of raptors.
Jackofhearts2005
01/30/2008, 19:36
Nah, he's very versatile, flies, supersenses, *anything* an animal can do.
Isn't Beast Boy a M-MW?
What exactly makes Animal Man a M-HW?
spiderman9797
01/30/2008, 19:37
Isn't Beast Boy a M-MW?
Exactly my point...:ermm:
"Most" of the dinosaurs. And every other dinosaur but a raptor -would- ignore the fight. But not a pack of raptors.
Voting for someone because the raptors would east the other team is not valid.
The other team needs to somehow be involved in the fight.
spiderman9797
01/30/2008, 19:41
Voting for someone because the raptors would east the other team is not valid.
The other team needs to somehow be involved in the fight.
Oh, even if I were to say that the raptors would eat Psimon, Wrecker is still a top-notch HW and I'm not sure Animal Man + Luke could beat him.
But they would have to be involved in the fight one way or another, it's just that I think it's more likely than not that raptors would eat Psimon alive.
JKLantern
01/30/2008, 19:45
And I don't consider that HW material, personally.:ermm:
Let's see, I believe he can currently mimic the powers of any Animal Life form in the universe, although I could be mistaken.
Discounting that, he has massive regenerative capabilities, can absorb the perceptions/reflexes of a fly and turn crazy fast and dodgy (took apart a giant robot in seconds), a good amount of super strength.
Nah, he's very versatile, flies, supersenses, *anything* an animal can do.
It's a lot more than that. For one thing he can do multiple different traits at once, so he can fly like a bird and be as strong as an ox (for example). He can also use abilities as if the animals were his size if he wants, for example he once ran really fast by mimicing an ant, so he ran as fast as the ant could, were it his size. He's managed to discover a way to generate a vast, vast array of powers, from super-speed (real super speed with slowed perceptions), to duplicateing himself (just like multiple man, but without needing the kinetic energy catalyst), to electrical attacks, to regeneration, to being able to make sonic shock waves that render human beings unconscious. He can also duplicate the powers of other animal themed super-beings.
I think Ill go with Wrecker and Psimon as well. Wrecker is borderline H-HW for me, and if the other team doesnt have any special mental protection, or ranged attacks, superspeed, etc. then I think Psimon will take them down as well. Luke Cage is tough, he hung with the Hulk once I believe, but I dont think hed beat the Wrecker more than not.
CornsilkSW
01/30/2008, 23:18
Voting for someone because the raptors would east the other team is not valid.
The other team needs to somehow be involved in the fight.
the other team would be better equipped to manipulate the terrain so that the raptors COULD eat Psimon. It's seems like a valid strategy to me.
I assume that the raptors start penned up, like the rest of the park. Cage & Animal Man are going to synchronize as a team MUCH better than Psi & wrecker, and that teamwork is going to turn the Velociraptors loose on the guy they'd have trouble taking out on their own.
Arent Cage and AM, heroes? Do you really think theyre going to set a plan in motion for the dinosaurs here to Eat their opponents?
CornsilkSW
01/30/2008, 23:31
Arent Cage and AM, heroes? Do you really think theyre going to set a plan in motion for the dinosaurs here to Eat their opponents?
Cage would, Animal Man probably would.
dunno for sure though, but I do know that both heroes have done some gritty stuff to get the job done.
Eh, Wolverine, Punisher, Cable and the like I can see, Cage I dont think would create a plan where his enemies get torn apart and eaten by raptors without trying something (anything) else first.
CornsilkSW
01/31/2008, 00:55
I've not read many of his classic appearances, just his MAX imprint mini. Dunno what he's like in the Avengers at present.
Well, Im sure hes Bad and all that, but it takes a special kinda anti-hero to feed your enemies to dinosaurs. :)
St-Dumas
01/31/2008, 01:41
Does the "terrain can't KO characters" rule still apply here? Because if it does, the raptors aren't anybody and Rage Cage and Buddy are getting shut down.
My vote: Psimon/Wrecker
This plan had also better somehow involve some way for the raptors to actually eat Psimon, as they are no less susceptible to his powers than Animal Man and Cage are. To say nothing of the fact that Psimon can make forcefields, and fly.
I vote for Psimon/Wrecker.
I like Animal Man and all, but Psimon is just an opponent he has no real way of beating.
As Rando mentioned, Psimon flies, and any dinosaur dumb enough to attack Wrecker would be crushed to paste in a matter of seconds. The terrain does absolutely nothing here against either team.
As demonstrated in the New Avengers Wrecker can take Luke Cage alone without breaking a sweat, and for all his versatility Animal Man is helpless against the powers of Psimon. There's just no way this fight can end in any other way than a total victory for Psimon and Wrecker.
My vote: Team Psimon/Wrecker
I've not read many of his classic appearances, just his MAX imprint mini. Dunno what he's like in the Avengers at present.
The MAX Luke Cage mini is not part of the 616 continuity and is clearly not featuring the 616 Luke Cage, but rather an incredibly stereo-typical thug who happens to share his name and powerset.
The regular Luke Cage has virtually nothing in common with his MAX-thug version, and would never, in a million years, conspire to feed anyone to a pack of dinosaurs.
Not that it matters at all for the outcome of this fight, but still.
It's a lot more than that. For one thing he can do multiple different traits at once, so he can fly like a bird and be as strong as an ox (for example). He can also use abilities as if the animals were his size if he wants, for example he once ran really fast by mimicing an ant, so he ran as fast as the ant could, were it his size. He's managed to discover a way to generate a vast, vast array of powers, from super-speed (real super speed with slowed perceptions), to duplicateing himself (just like multiple man, but without needing the kinetic energy catalyst), to electrical attacks, to regeneration, to being able to make sonic shock waves that render human beings unconscious.
Yea, exactly. Beast Boy can become any one animal at a time. Animal Man can have the leaping power of a flee while still being as tough as an elephant, and using an eel's electricity to stun someone.
Plus he has the power to be written by Grant Morrison, which makes him very entertaining.
JKLantern
01/31/2008, 11:43
This plan had also better somehow involve some way for the raptors to actually eat Psimon, as they are no less susceptible to his powers than Animal Man and Cage are. To say nothing of the fact that Psimon can make forcefields, and fly.
I vote for Psimon/Wrecker.
I like Animal Man and all, but Psimon is just an opponent he has no real way of beating.
As much as I love Animal Man, I'm inclined to agree with this. Plus, I think Wrecker is probably the physically strongest guy here.
Vote: Psimon/Wrecker.
Jackofhearts2005
01/31/2008, 13:46
the other team would be better equipped to manipulate the terrain so that the raptors COULD eat Psimon. It's seems like a valid strategy to me.
I assume that the raptors start penned up, like the rest of the park. Cage & Animal Man are going to synchronize as a team MUCH better than Psi & wrecker, and that teamwork is going to turn the Velociraptors loose on the guy they'd have trouble taking out on their own.
I disagree with both points.
1) A telepath is more likely to manipulate the dinos not to mention the previous statement that Psimon can fly.
2) Both Psimon and Wrecker work on teams 99% of the time. Luke Cage is on teams about half the time and Animal Man hasn't been on a team in a long time. I don't think Psimon and Wrecker will dazzle with their amazing teamwork skills but I don't think they'll be hindered at all either.
Also
Arent Cage and AM, heroes? Do you really think theyre going to set a plan in motion for the dinosaurs here to Eat their opponents?
CornsilkSW
01/31/2008, 14:53
Well, Im sure hes Bad and all that, but it takes a special kinda anti-hero to feed your enemies to dinosaurs. :)
yeah, that's true.
You've convinced me. I'll change my vote to Wrecker & Psimon.
Cage and Animal Man don't have what it takes to drop a MHW psychic on their own.
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