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hair10
03/15/2008, 19:59
Since WK has "redone" the booster packaging, we've had one generic... the Guardsman in Avengers.

Would you like to see WK take up one or two of the common slots with a generic fig each release?

fenway
03/15/2008, 20:03
It just makes sense - Generics, by definition, I can use 10 of (I can't use 10 Ultimate Captain America's or First Class Cyclops')

I say 'yes'. :)

hair10
03/15/2008, 20:05
It just makes sense - Generics, by definition, I can use 10 of (I can't use 10 Ultimate Captain America's or First Class Cyclops')

I say 'yes'. :)
Exacta-mundo.

Galactus
03/15/2008, 20:06
I said yes but my only caveat is that I want them to be comic specific generics. No more thugs or anything like that.

Manchine
03/15/2008, 20:06
I would say 1 or 2 slots max. I wouldn't want 4 generics though, that would be to many.

stark's heir
03/15/2008, 20:07
Bring back those army figs!! I want new (redone) AIM troops. I want new Bugs (Annihilus' troops!). I want Atlanteans and Lemurians!

hair10
03/15/2008, 20:08
I would say 1 or 2 slots max. I wouldn't want 4 generics though, that would be to many.
I agree with that. In the 96 fig Supernova set, I think it was fine... especially how varied they were. In a 60 fig set, I think 1 or 2 would be a good number as they can't be changed up at all.

WYVERN85
03/15/2008, 20:09
at least one, maybe two generics per set would be fine, there are many they could choose from.

soldiers, various alien races, henchmen, qwardian thunderers(?),shield agents, etc.

CornsilkSW
03/15/2008, 20:10
There should be a lot more generics in the set rosters since switching to the C/U/R scheme.

the R/E/V rarity scheme meant three of the same generic taking up spots in the lineup, now that it's one fig = one version with smaller sets and more characters, it's the PERFECT opportunity to start proliferating people's collections with a broad assortment of generic army builder types.

I'd like to see three or four in each set lineup, with a guarantee of pulling one per booster.
The trick is to make them different generics, all with playable dials and reasonable point costs. You could have a Hydra agent, a Shield soldier, a Doombot, and a Hand Ninja in one set and not get many complaints if people pulled tons of each.
They are going to be VERY tradeable to people who want hordes of the things, which makes them doubly appealing.

I Am The Game
03/15/2008, 20:30
Prior to the Avengers set, there were 40 character slots (28 REVs, 12 uniques). There should be much less of an impact on character selection in a 60 fig set if four of those are generics.

I'll echo the sentiment that generics add value to a booster. If I just need two more SR's to finish my set, I'll just go out and buy them as singles. If I need 2 SR's and a few more generics, I may just opt for another booster instead.

thepunisher27
03/15/2008, 20:33
This is like the 6th poll today, and yes I miss my generics I'd love to see 3 or 4 generics per set (that's just me), but I doubt it, I'd be happy with 2 though.

darius_dax1
03/15/2008, 20:35
I said yes but my only caveat is that I want them to be comic specific generics. No more thugs or anything like that.
I agree. I think there is always rooom for more:
SHIELD, Hydra, AIM, Hand, etc..

techdog
03/15/2008, 20:37
I would love more Kree Warriors, Skrull Warriors, Bugs, Shield Agents, AIM Agents, Hyrdra Agents, and Hand Ninjas. Those make the game more fun to me.

mikeinmke
03/15/2008, 20:50
Lava Men! That's what i'd most like to see; they've never been made into HeroClix.

There are other threads out there with several great ideas for generics in the Common slots.

invisibo
03/15/2008, 20:53
Darkseid needs some minions.

bigbro911
03/15/2008, 21:00
Exacta-mundo.
Hair, use your "Fonz" powers to make it so... :cool:

Darth Sabre
03/16/2008, 01:25
I said yes but my only caveat is that I want them to be comic specific generics. No more thugs or anything like that.

I would argue that thugs are comic-specific. After all, don't you think the Kingpin, Black Mask, or the Penguin have low level thugs working for them?

I would be happy to have generics come back and take up 1-2 slots per set.

brevard321
03/16/2008, 01:34
I'd love to see anwhere from 2 to 8 common generics, and maybe 1 or 2 uncommon generics if they cost a little more to sculpt/produce.

Amazaons, OMACs, Henchman, and many other types of generics! And paint variations on those to mix it up a little, ie one Amazon may have a white outfit on, while one may be wearing red. One henchman may have dark skin, one may have light skin, and one may be wearing blue jeans, one may have on black leather pants. Something crazy like that! :)

I Am The Game
03/16/2008, 01:36
I had a funny thought that I couldn't get out of my head... how about a set with only generics in it? Get 'em all out of the way, and for every person who refuses to buy it, someone like me will buy 5 cases...! :laugh:

spike1138
03/16/2008, 02:07
I voted for the return of generics. It would really stink if WK didn't add a few generic Skrulls, Kree, and other assorted aliens for the Secret Invasion set...

loganspeedo
03/16/2008, 02:22
Since WK has "redone" the booster packaging, we've had one generic... the Guardsman in Avengers.

Would you like to see WK take up one or two of the common slots with a generic fig each release?
What about the Brood in M&M? I'd think these would fall under the heading Generic.

philrox7
03/16/2008, 02:26
ONE GOOD Reason to bring generics back: EPIC BATTLES!

What is an Epic Battle? Better you see it in action, than me reason my argument out. In our community, we have a regular group that holds weekly EPIC THEMED BATTLES using generics, and 1-2 leaders.

1.) Our Epic Themed battles thread (w/ PICS):
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222225

2.) Xmen vs. the Brood Scedario (w/ PICS):
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221494

No Generics, no EPIC BATTLES!

Miraclo
03/16/2008, 02:37
One or two slots at a minimum. Don't necessarily exclude them from the Uncommons, too. The 96 vs 60 set size is a red herring since we potentially fit far more characters in the current set size.

One of the reasons I really liked Supernova was for the generics, which took up the first 12 slots in the set -- which was 12.5% of the main set. I'm not suggesting the percentage be as high as that, but 4, 5 even 6 - provided they're good, comics-specific pieces, would be terrific. A win:win for everyone, since even the ones who didn't care for them would find that they retain a trading value that named characters - ones few would have a reason to want more than one of - do.

Miraclo
03/16/2008, 02:40
What about the Brood in M&M? I'd think these would fall under the heading Generic. That was meant to be a specific character - No-Name of the Brood - but I'm with you in spirit on this. For my purposes I considered Brood, Miek, Korg and the Cuckoos to all be generics inasmuch as I kept every one of each that I pulled. The first three I took as potential generics for their respective races.

Hellboy
03/16/2008, 02:45
I'd love to see expansions like the Heroscape fig boosters, with their visible squads...

maybe a hidden rare, for extra incentive. (one of four rares per wave)

uss_Titans
03/16/2008, 02:48
Add my vote too. Loved those generic. Anyone still have anymore Doombots?......I have almost 50 of REV Doombots. I was hoping to get Wildebeest, Shadow Demon and Quark Warrior in this Crissis set. Very disapointed.

NucGhost
03/16/2008, 02:48
Who would vote and what is your reasoning?

What's the point of having mastermind without actual boneheads to pawn the damage to?

da-Craig-O
03/16/2008, 02:51
I said yes but my only caveat is that I want them to be comic specific generics. No more thugs or anything like that.


Boo, I say. While I totally want a Gorilla City generic or an Asguardian. I also want a random Robot or Mummy or some other crazy generic options. I would love 4-6 generics per set.

Grandmaster_owl
03/16/2008, 02:52
Bring back those army figs!! I want new (redone) AIM troops. I want new Bugs (Annihilus' troops!). I want Atlanteans and Lemurians!

I want Hydra and AIM. But I still want them at basically the same cost. I think they could work it so that an AIM guy never gets an 11 defense for something like 20 or less points. Any more than 30 points, and you're gonna have a hard time fitting them into a good AIM/Hydra team (And they'll become Warbound-abuse figs, which I don't dig.)

Paradox Factor
03/16/2008, 03:11
What about the Brood in M&M? I'd think these would fall under the heading Generic.

Don't forget the SR generic, the Warskrull. Plus you could argue the Monitor should be generic too (Up to 52 on one team LOL)

W.I.T
03/16/2008, 03:39
Yes please, I'd love to get some more Skrulls for my Army. Oh, and new Doombots too ;)

TheXpert
03/16/2008, 03:45
Darkseid needs some minions.

Darkseid needs competent parademons, and even some of the non generics need to be made!

A hand ninja with good stats and blades, comb reflexes, and leap/climb that dies in 3 clicks would be perfect for daredevil fans! (horrible for ninja fans though)!

So maybe different ranks/sculpts in different sets? Eventually people would play warhammer scale battles with full companies of AIM and HYDRA troops with squad support and flying tanks led by a single MODOK or something...

wayshaw
03/16/2008, 03:45
I am totally in favor of generics and would love to see more of what everyone else has thrown out: hand, AIM, HYDRA, doombots and HIVE. I have no problem with thugs and whatnot but please god no more paramedics or con artists.

I would argue that the cuckoo's could be considered a generic (even though they are character specific) since I've seen as many as 6 on a team.

spider_ham
03/16/2008, 03:46
I'd like to see 10-30 point generics (with 3-4 clicks). Bring back HIVE Troopers, Henchmen, Parademons and Police! A few "expendable" (generic) characters per set would definitely be a refreshing change from having the same number of 5th and 6th tier characters tying up slots.

I'd even go for an entire set of only generics, packaged in 2 figure boosters (with a feats or bystander tokens).

GreenMonster
03/16/2008, 04:01
Darkseid needs some minions.


For mentioning Darkseid, Parademons will swarm and attack you, rending your flesh and inviting a bitter end to your pathetic suffering.

Hypersonic90
03/16/2008, 04:37
I say no. Generics are great sometimes, but please stick to the real thingies!
I wouldn't like a set-ful of generic figures....

-Hypersonic90 :cool:

hoojeebo
03/16/2008, 04:41
There have been too many damn polls in the last week! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

Dr. Morbius
03/16/2008, 05:29
I voted yes, too. I really want to see generics coming back to the common slots (not SR slots like Warskrull in M&M, please!!!!)
However, they should be generics that justify more than 1 click. It's kind of a shame that we have some pretty strong characters (Swarm, Colleen Wing,...) as bystanders and complete losers (Thugs, Henchmen,...) got a full-dial fig...
I don't like bystanders anyway. It looks stupid if you want to field Spider-Man with MJ and Aunt May, yet you only field one 3-D figure. I think deep down in your hearts you all feel like this....looking at how badly people want the actual Alfred figure instead of the pog!

Granite Moose
03/16/2008, 07:50
I think one or two common slots with a generic figure would be ideal. With the plethora of commons that are now being had, this would play in perfectly with a generic type of figure. Bring 'em back, I say.

Ooh, and looking at the replies to this poll, I'm clearly not alone in my opinion.

ZZZ
03/16/2008, 09:00
I said yes but my only caveat is that I want them to be comic specific generics. No more thugs or anything like that.That's my position, too.

I would also want a maximum of 4, but 2 would be better.

pxb006
03/16/2008, 09:02
It just makes sense - Generics, by definition, I can use 10 of (I can't use 10 Ultimate Captain America's or First Class Cyclops')

I say 'yes'. :)

Amen, brother!

darthfatty
03/16/2008, 09:10
I'll take a generic or 2 per set. Especially if the villain they flunkie for is in the set-how cool would it have been to have a Parademon in Crisis for Darksied to use as a bullet sponge?

Drunky
03/16/2008, 09:18
"Yes! Gimmie some generic lovin'."

M.O.D.O.K., Red Skull, Darkseid and countless others need all the minions they can get. 2/3 generics per set would be fine, especially if their leader is there too.

Battletank900
03/16/2008, 09:54
Darkseid needs some minions.

Here Here I say!!!

Let's get some new parademons with INV and toughness. They are chosen from the most sociopathic and cruel residents before being given gliders and trained in combat. They are often accompanied by gigantic dogs, called Hounds. Make two-flyers with ranged attacks and grounded w/ hounds (duo attack). Make em cheap though!

Also some bugs from the negative zone would be excellent! But...you know we need a new the Living Death That Walks-Annihilus.

charlesx
03/16/2008, 09:58
The only "semi" generic is Harbinger, who can split herself into many copies. I really don't like that they have generics in the Anti-Monitor action pack (Qwardian Thunderers and Shadow Demons.) Here's hoping that new generics turn up in the near future.

rwint1968
03/16/2008, 10:42
I voted no for generics, but I'd definitely take one or two IF they are related to the set or universe somehow (DC or Marvel). The Guardsman example is a perfect one. The Thugs, Lackeys, Con-Artist days I think are over.

Thanks,
:cool:

HappyTrain
03/16/2008, 10:43
I also would like some Lava Men.

Grumpygoat
03/16/2008, 11:34
Absolutely.

There are certainly enough universe specific, "flavorful" generic characters to put at least one or two into every set. Characters like Multiplex, White Martians, parademons, and so on and so forth.

Though it would be better still if there were more generics and the set sized was increased a little bit. too.

Thrumble Funk
03/16/2008, 14:04
Can't go wrong with GOOD generics. Police? Could do without them. Blackhawks? Yes please!

TheTwoToner
03/16/2008, 14:12
voted yes cuz i cant say no to generics.


Criminals and Lackeys made me buy a case of HT.

Puuka
03/16/2008, 14:31
I would consider these figures:
Crimson Fox (Twins/Triplets, depending on the source)
Brood (I know, this one represents the one from PH/WWH)
Cuckoos
All ones that would fit in the "Generic" domain, even though they are named characters.

Monkey Joe
03/16/2008, 15:55
Maximus requires some Alpha Primatives.

gambit38
03/16/2008, 17:22
Since WK has "redone" the booster packaging, we've had one generic... the Guardsman in Avengers.

Would you like to see WK take up one or two of the common slots with a generic fig each release?

I voted yes, but..........I don't want to see them just for the sake of it, By that I mean if you are going to do guardsmen do them right and not make them little more than a thug or lacky. Generic does not have to mean cannon fodder.

gambitrmp
03/16/2008, 17:37
I'm def on board with things like Hellfire Club Guards, Skrulls, Kree, Amazons, Atlanteans, Brood, Galactus Punishers, Hive, Omac, Parademons (need updated) & others that make sense as either filler for making certain point totals or as the majority of a force.

I agree with whoever said no more genric thug/cop type stuff. Hellfire Club Guards may push the limit; but I'm looking for the generics to be things that provide an actual threat to non-Superman types and in some cases even Superman level charactors.

2-4 slots per set would be plenty I guess.

fastcat99
03/16/2008, 17:40
I'd like them to be cheap, though. I really like those teen point Hydra soldiers.

BigSoph
03/16/2008, 18:07
A couple of low level generics (slots 1-2) with one being good and one bad (i.e. SHIELD and AIM) and 1-2 higher up (Gorilla City soldiers, White Martians, Amazons, Khund officers, alien Green Lanterns, alien Sinestro Corps, Manhunters, high ranking Apokolips officers)

As for DC generics, I want Dominators, Okaarans, Tamaranians, Khunds, Dark Circle, Rannians, Durlans, Coluans, Gordanians, Psions, Spider Guild, Kalanorians, Thanagarians, Karnan Felines - bring 'em all on!

Repulsor rage
03/16/2008, 18:18
I'd like to see new Doombots. And I'd like them to make ultron robots

space_cowboy
03/16/2008, 18:52
I'd be ok with 4 per set, but I can compromise with the marginally excited and settle for 2, one heroic one not so much.

Entertainer13
03/16/2008, 19:46
Without generics, my monkies team wouldn't have an amazing tie up and a solid tkr.

I'll leave it at that.

thebigZZZZZ
03/16/2008, 20:05
voted yes....the Iron Man with silver ring Unique in a common slot did NOT make sense to me when I pulled him from Avengers set. I was like hmmmm two Iron Men and I cannot put them together (could not put them anyway because it's over 300 points)...so please put the generics back in the common slot as originally, that worked.

I Am The Game
03/16/2008, 20:22
I'm def on board with things like Hellfire Club Guards, Skrulls, Kree, Amazons, Atlanteans, Brood, Galactus Punishers, Hive, Omac, Parademons (need updated) & others that make sense as either filler for making certain point totals or as the majority of a force.

Galactus' Punishers make a strong case for generics as rares, since you see so few. Better keep that one under your hat! Amazons is a better idea, although they should've put those out before trying to get us to chase Queen Hippolyta...

I agree with whoever said no more genric thug/cop type stuff. Hellfire Club Guards may push the limit; but I'm looking for the generics to be things that provide an actual threat to non-Superman types and in some cases even Superman level charactors.

More Intergang would do the trick.

planetary
03/16/2008, 20:27
Generics with team abilities,sure.Or at least have some support capabilities like enhancement or perplex or something.Or even some kind of special power would be all kinds of fun.

Ghost-x
03/16/2008, 22:52
I voted "NO".

Reason: I would like to see more "usable" generics like the skrulls from Super Nova, but I don't see a long future of good generics. So, I don't want to see the return of worthless generics like thugs or lackeys.

Miraclo
03/16/2008, 23:38
Keep in mind that Seth's already told us that generics will be very comics-specific -- no more thugs, paramedics, etc.

jebus_2099
03/17/2008, 00:20
generics rule!

Paradox Factor
03/17/2008, 00:28
Keep in mind that Seth's already told us that generics will be very comics-specific -- no more thugs, paramedics, etc.

That doesn't mean we won't see thugs that are character specific. Like Joker's goons in clown outfits. Or black and green clad henchmen for the Riddler. But I can see why. Genenric generics are a wee bit...boring.

Ignatz_Mouse
03/17/2008, 00:52
Comic-specific generics, and only 2-3 per set!

invisibo
03/17/2008, 01:07
I just realized that the next DC set is Rouge's gallery, and If I poured through my backissues of batman I'm sure I could find a ton of named goons. I'd be all for named goons like Biggy Tiny; kinda like how LE Generics used to be a long time ago. However I guess that's what pogs are for...

The other route would be having sweet, sweet collectors sets. one or two named figures and a whole bunch of generics. A batman set with batman, joker, harley quinn, and 5 guys in joker masks. A superman set with superman, darkseid, and 5 parademons.

Or just release a collector's set called "bucket o' thugs". One for marvel, one for DC, with every generic anyone would ever need. It should also never be retired.

gambitrmp
03/17/2008, 18:12
That doesn't mean we won't see thugs that are character specific. Like Joker's goons in clown outfits. Or black and green clad henchmen for the Riddler. But I can see why. Genenric generics are a wee bit...boring.

This would help me make armies that are more specific to the particular team I'm running them on though I don't mind using the Brood/Wendigo as misc demons for Trigon, etc. With his Doppleganger power, my teen titans were narrowly taken down by him in an 800 point battle. It was a lot of fun.

gambitrmp
03/17/2008, 18:20
Galactus' Punishers make a strong case for generics as rares, since you see so few. Better keep that one under your hat! Amazons is a better idea, although they should've put those out before trying to get us to chase Queen Hippolyta...



I'd just like something that would make sense to run with the Heralds other than the other Heralds. How about the uncommon slot? You can use multiples on one team. Make them once & they never need to be made again if you make them a little more common so people can actually get multiples. That's the idea of generics in common slots isn't it?

Of coarse Amazons would be cool. Right now I'm useing Shi, Witchblade, Valkyrie, Moonstar other versions of Wonder Woman & Wonder Girl as my Amazons. It works well enough. I used Magdelina until I decided there should be no one with a gun or other "man's" world stuff.

I Am The Game
03/23/2008, 17:01
Sorry, didn't mean to say that all generics should be rares, just that some should be, depending on how often you see them. It's a point I've argued before. I would've put War Skrulls as rares for just that reason. SR generics is just mean, but they shouldn't all be commons.

Leonic21
04/12/2008, 03:00
i voted yes, i personally think 2-3 generics a set would be perfect! its been a few sets since weve seen good generics for what people have been looking for ALA Supernova for the kree/skrulls/shiar, albeit that set had a "tad" to many, in the new sets i can see maybe 4, 2-3 in the common slots and the last one being maybe some form of higher up of the same group, Hyrda leader/Sheild/AIM respectively, and judging from the plot of "secret invasion" and the heavy involvement of sheild/skrull respectively were probably gonna see shield and skrull genereics, and im PRAYING they arent pogs, since the shield agents desperately need an update.......but in short, yes! bring back genereics! but NOT a whole set of generics, just 2-3 per set and the market value of those boosters will be more viable since everyone who wants half-decent swarm armies are quite capable of getting em once that happens

BigSoph
04/12/2008, 10:15
I voted for some generics

Nothing quite like a good old-fashioned swarm team! (and I really have no use for 4 Robins)

kh2003
04/12/2008, 10:17
Generics are always welcome in my collection. Honestly, who would ever need more than 4 aqualads

snarfery
04/12/2008, 10:27
One per booster I would say, otherwise you might end up getting two many in one booster in a sealed format, be like pulling 2 rookie jubilees from supernova :(

airdomin8
04/12/2008, 14:23
As long as generics could be good army-builders. SHIELD or HYDRA agents, Skrulls (they walk among us anyways) and Police Department.

Swarm armies can be LOTS of fun; you're never short of options and get to attack attack attack!

(No more "thugs" or "con artists.")

shazam256
04/12/2008, 14:43
Since WK has "redone" the booster packaging, we've had one generic... the Guardsman in Avengers.

Would you like to see WK take up one or two of the common slots with a generic fig each release?

Yes I would, that would be cool.

mbufu
04/12/2008, 15:04
Ah Generics...the doubles we love!

S.P. Respect

CarlosMucha
04/12/2008, 15:08
Red Parademons!!!

Kenny Wisdom
04/12/2008, 19:24
I'm not going to pretend that I know more about running a business than the people behind WK, but it seems like it makes sense as far as booster sales go to add a few generics in the common slots. Maybe 4? I think the most I would want is 6, and that'd be pushing it.

I'm willing to bet we're going to get a lot of generics in the common slots, and maybe even uncommon slots, with SI, though. It only makes sense to have skrulls, warskrulls, and whatever other kind of variety of skrull for this event. I can't wait to see all-skrull teams! Let's not also forgot about the strong possibility of SHIELD agents and the like.