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CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 13:24
Simple question for something that I'm very curious...

Are you a new or a old Heroclix collector/player? will you buy Heroclix Batman even if is a little different to the new Heroclix?

If this Batman set have sucess it will be fallow by a "Amazing Sider-Man" set. soo this is important.

Discuss!

WolvieFan9
03/17/2008, 13:25
I am an old HeroClix player. (And I'm feeling older every day...)

I will indeed buy Batman Alpha. Whether I play it as Alpha, or just incorporate the figures into regular Clix, I don't know yet... I'll probably give Alpha a try.

iameleveneight
03/17/2008, 13:26
i will probably buy a couple packs to see what they do. If they do a good enough update of older characters that haven't seen much love in a while then yeah I'll go for a set.

The Mattador
03/17/2008, 13:26
Really, this has been discussed ad nauseam:

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=223601&highlight=will+you+buy+batman

magerunner
03/17/2008, 13:27
I buy plastic crack. It looks good and you never know if you'll get another figure like starter Bat or starter Storm.

chrisstar
03/17/2008, 13:28
I voted no.

I like Marvel, now put this poll on the proposed Spiderman Alphaclix then I'll vote yes.

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 13:30
I am an old HeroClix player. (And I'm feeling older every day...)

I will indeed buy Batman Alpha. Whether I play it as Alpha, or just incorporate the figures into regular Clix, I don't know yet... I'll probably give Alpha a try.


somebody say that if Alpha have sucess will reemplace normal heroclix. :eek:

I see how WK call it heroclix Aplha: Rules like Action clix. :surprised and I did not like that.

I did love to have new figs who can be played just with the PAC.

:grin:

I hope the figs have color powers from the PAC who match the "special piowers" that the fig could have.

Let's say that one fig have the Deadman/ Jericho power in the card and that power is light blue to represent mind control in the old PAC. things like that. if the powers don't match everything will go down. :(

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 13:31
I voted no.

I like Marvel, now put this poll on the proposed Spiderman Alphaclix then I'll vote yes.


well,, if you have the Spider-Man set you will have to buy this or hope to this have good sales.

I wonder how many of we have to buy this product to considere this product a sucess...

Personally if some of the dials are nice with the figs that I like I will buy it.

and of course i will buy a Alfred on ebay or a pack if he is easy to get.

krzysztof
03/17/2008, 13:32
I've been playing since Hypertime came out, which means I already have all the sculpts in the Batman set. On the other hand, I am a huge Batman fan. I will probably wait to see the dials to decide how much to buy. I really hope that a playable version of the Dark Knight con-exclusive is included in the set. But I have to wonder, if the set following Batman is Rouge's Gallery, might I prefer new sculpts of my favorite Bat-villains instead of reprints?

Reggie Pants
03/17/2008, 13:33
It's Heroclix related.... I'm a junkie... I'm buying it for the remake of old rouge gallery.

JacinB
03/17/2008, 13:35
The answers aren't really nuanced enough to fit what I'll do -- see if what I want (ie: Oracle, Alfred, Catwoman, etc.) is good and get it from eBay rather than booster lotto -- so I voted 'Undecided'.

Anachronic
03/17/2008, 13:35
Really, it entirely depends on how good the characters in the set are. If they're really boss all around, I'll probably pick up a brick. If they're nothing worth bothering for, I'll pick up the rad ones on the singles market and be done with it. However, I might still buy a pack or two to try and introduce a new player to the game.

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 13:36
The answers aren't really nuanced enough to fit what I'll do -- see if what I want (ie: Oracle, Alfred, Catwoman, etc.) is good and get it from eBay rather than booster lotto -- so I voted 'Undecided'.


Yes, I'm thinking in buy the figs that I want from ebay...

2Face
03/17/2008, 13:37
somebody say that if Alpha have sucess will reemplace normal heroclix. :eek:

Where did you see this? Idle speculation on a player's part or from Wizkids? For that to happen, the majority of current players would have to prefer the new rules, which seems highly unlikely. Wizkids has already showed that they are committed to the core game into 2009; I see nothing to indicate that Alpha will replace the core game.

I really don't understand the fear and dislike for the Alpha concept. Those who are currently playing are not the consumers being targeted by this product. It shouldn't matter if we, the current players, purchase the product because it is not being marketed primarily to us. It is for those who are not playing the game but should be. Maybe Alpha will get them in and maybe it won't, but I don't see it having any impact on the core game.

2Face
03/17/2008, 13:42
The answers aren't really nuanced enough to fit what I'll do -- see if what I want (ie: Oracle, Alfred, Catwoman, etc.) is good and get it from eBay rather than booster lotto -- so I voted 'Undecided'.

With the small set size, I expect a lot of people to go this route. I'll probably pick up 4 boosters with the 4 different Batman figures, which will also get me the maps, and then trade for the rest. However, if lots of people are picking up singles, somebody has to buy the boosters originally. If the idea of the poll is to see if the product is going to sell at all, then it shouldn't matter if you buy singles on ebay or boosters. People may pick and choose more than normal, but there still seems to be a fair amount of interest in this from what I've seen.

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 13:45
Where did you see this? Idle speculation on a player's part or from Wizkids? .

speculation on a player. It do NOT sound too ilogic. Heroclix NEED to be less complicated.

Not because if hard to undestend. More because you need a book like the ones from Advanced Dungeons & Dragons to get all the Erratas and FAQs.

Monkey Joe
03/17/2008, 13:49
Yes, but only 4 packs (or however many different Batmen are in the window display.) the rest I will trade for.

2Face
03/17/2008, 13:51
speculation on a player. It do NOT sound too ilogic. Heroclix NEED to be less complicated.

I can see players who find the current rules too complicated gravitating to the Alpha rules. However, this would make players' collections obsolete since they won't work as well with the Alpha rules.

I also think that the Alpha rules are too simple to keep current players interested. I tried Halo and loved the fast play because of the simplicity. I even thought that Haloclix would be a good way to introduce players to Heroclix. However, this same simplicity was its very weakness; it lacked the depth to keep me interested. While lots of people would like to see Heroclix rules simplified, I have yet to see any agreement on what should be changed to make it simpler.

CornsilkSW
03/17/2008, 13:54
I disliked Avengers greatly, but played in the events despite disappointment.

I skipped Monsters & Mutations entirely.
I skipped Justice League entirely.
I skipped Crisis entirely.

I'm buying the Batman Alphaclix.
I doubt I use all of the haloclixesque rules, but I fully support any attempt by Wizkids to implement products that have 100 % compatibility. Anything that they produce that is free of special powers and geared back toward the "all on the dial" model of game design gets my money.

I hope the paint jobs are nicer, and I long for new sculpts, but they've made their choice to try and sell their games on strenth of gameplay over visual aesthetics.

Posted this same response in the polls section when the first one went up.
reposting it here as well.

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 13:56
I can see players who find the current rules too complicated gravitating to the Alpha rules. However, this would make players' collections obsolete since they won't work as well with the Alpha rules.

I also think that the Alpha rules are too simple to keep current players interested. I tried Halo and loved the fast play because of the simplicity. I even thought that Haloclix would be a good way to introduce players to Heroclix. However, this same simplicity was its very weakness; it lacked the depth to keep me interested. While lots of people would like to see Heroclix rules simplified, I have yet to see any agreement on what should be changed to make it simpler.

in my opinion it was nothing wrong with the old golden age PAC.

add just a few feats or just a few characters with special powers. (Just a FEW I say!) and everything could be great.

Entertainer13
03/17/2008, 13:57
A booster or two, especially if a new dialed Oracle or Alfred is in it.

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 13:58
Posted this same response in the polls section when the first one went up.
reposting it here as well.


"all on the dial" model was just PERFECTION. I still have that adds like the thing that represent Heroclix. Now because of the cards and all that is not longer what Heroclix is now.

"all on the dial" for me are just magical simple beautiful words.

charlesx
03/17/2008, 14:00
Though I won't buy the set, I am interested in getting Alfred (mostly for the sculpt.)

burleigh2
03/17/2008, 14:03
I've been playing since Hypertime came out, which means I already have all the sculpts in the Batman set. On the other hand, I am a huge Batman fan. I will probably wait to see the dials to decide how much to buy. I really hope that a playable version of the Dark Knight con-exclusive is included in the set. But I have to wonder, if the set following Batman is Rouge's Gallery, might I prefer new sculpts of my favorite Bat-villains instead of reprints?
It sounds like it'll be remakes of the sculpts, but new dials. Some might be much better than their previous counterparts (espeically Penguin and Poison Ivy among others).... we'll have to see.

Personally, I think the poll should have had an additional option of "if the dials are good, I will".... that's what I would have picked.

2Face
03/17/2008, 14:05
in my opinion it was nothing wrong with the old golden age PAC.

add just a few feats or just a few characters with special powers. (Just a FEW I say!) and everything could be great.
You seem to be arguing for a middle ground between Alpha and the current system. At this point, I don't see Wizkids doing anything to move towards that middle ground. You'll be left to choose between Alpha and the current system. The other option is to develop a system that you prefer yourself that your friends will support in casual play.

It will ultimately be in the hands of the players; if players respond overwhelming to the Alpha system, I'm sure it will take the place of the current system. I just find that scenario unlikely.

I am interested in seeing the next rule book. The powerpoint mentions that the rulebook attempts to make the game easier to understand but implies that the rules themselves are not changing.

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 14:05
with only 36 votes already I can sdee that this will be a sucess. :p

Spider-Man Alpha coming soon. :p

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 14:07
You seem to be arguing for a middle ground between Alpha and the current system. At this point, I don't see Wizkids doing anything to move towards that middle ground. You'll be left to choose between Alpha and the current system. The other option is to develop a system that you prefer yourself that your friends will support.

.


thanks for understend.

another option (the one that I think I should aplly) is to play Heroclix Alpha without the cards IF (like WK say) the powers will match (more or less) the special powers in the cards.

So, for me Heroclix Alpha can be played with the old PAC without special powers.

:)

Prof. Aragorn
03/17/2008, 14:08
If the updated dials of the Batman villains translate well, I will buy Batman.

I'll try Alpha, but the current Heroclix rules are damn good. I don't crave something too simple, I just crave more figures and maps.

I hope this sells well, too. I also want Amazing Spider-Man!

Ghost-x
03/17/2008, 14:27
I voted undecided.

I probably will buy it, but I am going to give it a thorough overview before I do, and if it has more lame elements than it should have, I want drop the coin.

Ilkimys
03/17/2008, 14:35
Why would I buy anything I already have? Old sculpts and new dials feels like they are just cashing in on old success. However, I do understand the reason for using old sculpts because it seems that Wizkids has lost the touch in designing them. :ermm:

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 14:43
Why would I buy anything I already have? Old sculpts and new dials feels like they are just cashing in on old success. However, I do understand the reason for using old sculpts because it seems that Wizkids has lost the touch in designing them. :ermm:


too true.

filler.

W.I.T
03/17/2008, 14:43
Not interested in 'Clix-lite'. Much like 'lite' beer, it is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

Repulsor rage
03/17/2008, 14:46
No the padding the figs will receive will make the fig akward to play maybe if there are generic or probably e-bay.

burleigh2
03/17/2008, 14:47
Well, I just found out new info that changes my vote to "No".... although I might trade for some.
According to the Powerpoint presentation that's circulating, the Heroclix: Batman (and potentially Spiderman, if it sells well enough) set will be in 4 figure booster forms. A Batman will show in a clear window with 3 random figures inside. The kicker is twofold with this one, though.... each 4-figure booster is $10 each and EVERY booster has a map, rules, and dice. Anyone who wants to get a full set will have lots of dupes (not to mention how many extra Batmans, considering there's 1 in every booster), dozen(s) of extra map/rules, and enough dice to build a diorama reminiscent of the sugar-cube castles we saw in elementary school.

Sure, if the dials are good, I'll trade for a couple..... but there's no way I'll buy more than a booster or two (MAYBE).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24809985@N08/2339210045/in/set-72157604134544314/

vicious x
03/17/2008, 14:50
I voted no, bc I feel it would be cheaper to buy the 30 clix set off of ebay. My main wants Alfred, and Oracle,...

Dr. Morbius
03/17/2008, 15:11
Collector (and little bit player) since day one...and NO I won't buy it. That's of course because it's DC, but I wouldn't even buy Spider-Man...anything that might be interesting I'd cherry-pick on ebay !!!

MrFurious87
03/17/2008, 15:14
I have been playing clix for something like 4 1/2 years and I am a player first and collector second. I might buy a few boosters from this set but not many I am thinking. I will most likely trade for the few that I want.

Artie Deco
03/17/2008, 15:22
I would buy Batman AlfaClix if it were retailing for $7.99 or less. But for $9.99, I expect more. I'll look for deals on ebay. Or wait for them to go on clearance at Target.

CustomCreator
03/17/2008, 15:24
I know it's going to be old sculpts on new dials, but I am hoping for a few repaints to the old sculpts. Sadly, a decent Catwoman (purple dress and cloak) or Mr. Freeze (anything but Robofridge) would require a new sculpt; but I can hope for Riddler with lots of little question marks, Two-Face in classic orange and purple bifurcated suit, Penguin that doesn't look like the Good Humor Man...


Some people will read anything...

First Lensman
03/17/2008, 15:32
I disliked Avengers greatly, but played in the events despite disappointment.

I skipped Monsters & Mutations entirely.
I skipped Justice League entirely.
I skipped Crisis entirely.


IMHO, it's your loss because these were GREAT sets!!!

I've been playing since Infinity Challenge came out. The new 60 figure no REV sets are the best. We get some remakes, but we've seen a large number of new figures too. I like that no one figure dominates. There's a twist on every dial that can make the figure vulnerable. I've played with the much maligned Taskmaster from the Avengers set and have been very successful. I usually team him up with low cost figures that have increases in attack and defense values later in their dial.

TheSpirit
03/17/2008, 16:31
If I can play it with my five year old son, this will be wonderful. That's reason enough for me to buy. I hope this goes over well, because he's a bigger fan of Spider-Man than Batman, too.

freakazoid_x
03/17/2008, 16:46
Since the set is so small I'll probably just buy a complete set on eBay. I do like the no TA's because that guarentees that we get brand new dials. Which are tasty tasty treats.

LeBagnard
03/17/2008, 16:46
The more doubles of batman and batman villains i have, the more fun i will have repainting and modding them.

I can't say no to batman. Even batman with a dumbed down dial.

JackAssterson
03/17/2008, 16:47
Of course I'll buy it.

Webslinger92
03/17/2008, 17:05
I'm gonna try collecting all 30 figs from the set!:)

CornsilkSW
03/17/2008, 17:07
IMHO, it's your loss because these were GREAT sets!!!

I've been playing since Infinity Challenge came out. The new 60 figure no REV sets are the best. We get some remakes, but we've seen a large number of new figures too. I like that no one figure dominates. There's a twist on every dial that can make the figure vulnerable. I've played with the much maligned Taskmaster from the Avengers set and have been very successful. I usually team him up with low cost figures that have increases in attack and defense values later in their dial.

The dials in the sets are great, I'll happily play and borrow figures from my friends, but i'm not spending a dime on sets so profusely proliferated with insipid special powers. I like unique SP's that only happen once or twice in a set and add something to the game besides mashing powers together or offering a nerfed version of something that exists.

The Batman Alphaclix will get my money because, despite the recycled sculpts, it's a reversion to the All on the Dial style of design that makes the game fun to play.
I have never liked Feats much, as I saw a lot of potential squandered in favor of abuse and I've loathed the necessity of keeping character cards since they broke.

I played a batman squad with the new Crisis batgirl, nightwing, and tim drake robin and cleaned house. The play wonderfully, but looking down at nightwing's card every single turn got really old really fast. Eventually I stopped caring what powers he had and just left him in the bushes to plink people for two damage.

The Robin, is IMHO the best piece in the set. A dialful of useful powers, TONS of options from mid-line attacker to support piece. and zero special powers to gum up the works. I can chuck his card in the trash, and I never have to look beyond his dial to see what he can do. And he can do a LOT.

If the dials in Alphaclix are going to look more like this, then color me sold.

Gargantua
03/17/2008, 19:29
I don't know that I'll buy much, but yeah, I'll buy at least one or two. I need to replace my 1940s Batman from Origin that I traded away - if nothing else.

imaleximsweet
03/17/2008, 20:46
old player playin since hypertime (despite my young age)

i dont know if i wwanna take a step back in the complication of the rules.
maybe just so i can introduce friends to the game and help them learn simple rules, instead of taking 5 hrs and numerous trial games before they are deemed play worthy.

if the figures are good (like someone said the release of the Alfred Pennyworth fig as just a rare or super rare instead of a chase) THEN i would consider buying them

besideds... every team needs a gernade throwing butler

Wolverine_Hulk
03/17/2008, 21:07
If they sell at Target definitely yes, otherwise maybe.

Thrumble Funk
03/17/2008, 21:10
Really, this has been discussed ad nauseam:

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=223601&highlight=will+you+buy+batman

Annnnnnnnnnnd this is a survey.

On a discussion board.

weaponizedsoul
03/17/2008, 22:26
besides we have new information that the decent sales of Heroclix Batman will directly result to a Heroclix Spiderman! that bit of information right there is worth discussing a few pages already!


I voted yes. I do want my bat-villains with all new dials and I do want my spidey villains in all new dials.:)

subliminalthreat
03/17/2008, 22:37
I don't know if I will go the route of buying a brick or case, but i know I will be buying a few boosters so i can get a new Bane and Catwoman. but I did vote yes, I have a friend who works overseas and when a new set or starter/action set is released he sends me money to buy a case for him and enought to get an extrabrick or whatever i what at the same time. I'll donate extra's and ones I don't want to the local boys and girls club to help get those into the game too! They all love batman so maybe they'll be able to get their parents to buy more at Target and Wal-Mart and stuff.

CarlosMucha
03/17/2008, 22:44
besides we have new information that the decent sales of Heroclix Batman will directly result to a Heroclix Spiderman!


for that news I begin this thread poll.

If you support Heroclix Batman Alpha you support Heroclix Spider-Man and maybe the new way that Heroclix will be in the future.

You hear it first here. :cheeky: :p

Will you support to "lite" reemplace Heroclix??

ccs
03/18/2008, 00:08
Assuming they do indeed include the the Icons(?) Batman sculpt I saw used in the product slide, then yes, I'll buy at least 1 booster....

Darth Sabre
03/18/2008, 00:10
Yes, yes I will. I need updated Batman villains-either dials or ones that are not blackening.

I Am The Game
03/18/2008, 00:23
I voted undecided, but I'm going to skip the boosters, since I hate Batman. I'll just cherrypick a few villains with better dials for team-building, like Riddler on the Legion of Doom, or Poison Ivy in an Injustice Gang.

Ponchot
03/18/2008, 03:47
I voted No.

Im always anxious to see the maps that come in boosters,
but not anxious for same old sculpts. I have most of my
favorite BatmanS already. I'll hold off for NeW sculpts on old
fav's such as Riddler & Two Face.

I still think its a cleaver idea since it will be at stores such as
Target, but not really for a long time player like me.

NucGhost
03/18/2008, 03:53
I voted no because I will not support this product.

Should there be a game-breaking piece or efficient piece that I would want, I'll seek it in trade or sale via the Trading Forums here because eBay would likely be going through a venue opening packs for the singles, and that would be supporting the product through a roundabout way.

Foran12
03/18/2008, 07:23
I, for one, am totally excited about the Batman set.

I don't know how much I care for the Alpha rules (time will tell), I'm just looking forward to getting some new, hopefully more playable, versions of the Batman villains - I don't care that they don't have TAs as long as they are playable for their points...

EDIT: This will be the first time in since Origin, that I'll buy a (read several) booster pack(s).

Lonehawk
03/18/2008, 07:56
I voted yes. Why?

1) Four new Batman dials! Yo!

2) New dials for classic villians. Fingers crossed for Penguin, Riddler and Two-Face, There's only so much 15 DEF with mastermind/ 2 damage with perplex you can take and these NEED re-doing.

3) I can dish out a few boosters gratis at my games club and encourage all the other guys to try out a simpler version of Heroclix.

4) Did I mention 4 new Batman dials? I did? Well it's still cool.

5) The game desperately needs an infusion of new blood. As players we should be encouraging this.

Just my thoughts
Steve

<edit> All the above applies to the proposed Spider-Man set as well, except that it probably won't have 4 new Batman dials :(

Lonehawk
03/18/2008, 08:03
I voted no because I will not support this product.



OK - so say the local venue has half a dozen new players attracted to the store by the product and they ask you, as an experienced player, to help with the rules. Would you say no?

Not buying the product is one thing - eveyone has a choice on what they spend their money on. But surely ALL players should be supporting the product, because future releases of core products may depend on this doing well.

CarlosMucha
03/18/2008, 09:19
400 people voting. wow. there is really are a lot of heroclix collectors.

:)

IronFan72
03/18/2008, 09:22
I voted No, simply because I'm not a big fan of Batman, not enough to buy a set, I'm sure it will sell very well,with or without my purchase.

magerunner
03/18/2008, 11:02
I'm inerested on how big of maps we are going to see. I'm thinking that it will be reminicent of the Universe Starter map.

Which, btw, make for a great map to run Ultimate Wrestleing Federation.

JackAssterson
03/18/2008, 12:32
I'm sure it will sell very well,with or without my purchase.

I'd agree with that.

kainus9
03/18/2008, 13:41
I voted yes but this will be the first set since indy where I buy individual figures instead of a whole case. I think others have chimed in as buying the 4 Batman boosters for the figures and maps and I'll probably do that.

M.Drake
03/18/2008, 15:04
I will buy one case with a friend of mine. I hope to get the whole Set that way, if not I will trade or buy the rest.
I think it's great that WK gives us another shot for rare figures like Alfred or Oracle this way

NucGhost
03/18/2008, 16:30
OK - so say the local venue has half a dozen new players attracted to the store by the product and they ask you, as an experienced player, to help with the rules. Would you say no?

Not buying the product is one thing - eveyone has a choice on what they spend their money on. But surely ALL players should be supporting the product, because future releases of core products may depend on this doing well.

Of course I'd help them with the rules. I'd show them the PAC. Get them used to how terrain was marked on actual maps. Sit them down for an -actual- game of Heroclix. Just because I don't support a product doesn't mean I turn away players. I would just tell the new players to buy the FF Starter instead.

I just can't support this product. If WK sees the sales do well, then they'll make more of these Heroclix: Alpha sets that deviate from the standard rules. If future sets do well, then the buyers are encouraging WK to re-use sculpts (hurting sculptors) and dramatically change the rules of the game. My advice to any and all new players would be to buy the FF Starter and start buying whatever the newest set of STANDARD Heroclix is available at the the time (likely Secret Invasion). If neither are available when HC:Batman is out, I'll give them some of my extras from the recent sets and my rulebook and PAC.

MB7-TheFlash
03/18/2008, 16:35
with it being a 30 figure set, a friend and I have discussed splitting a brick

PMMJ
03/18/2008, 23:40
Seems like more of a gimmick to get Heroclix players buying ActionClix, honestly. No new sculpts? Not compatible with real Heroclix? Screw that.

JackAssterson
03/19/2008, 01:43
Not compatible with real Heroclix? Screw that.

The figures are compatible.
All of the figures in DC HeroClix: Batman can be played as-is in the standard HeroClix rules.

.....................

innerfury
03/19/2008, 10:27
I buy plastic crack. It looks good and you never know if you'll get another figure like starter Bat or starter Storm.


I buy plastic crack also....

BadAxe1
03/19/2008, 10:38
I picked undecided. If it turns out to be a good set then I'll probably shell out for it.

Are the figures going to have new stats? Heaven knows most of the Bat villains need a redo stat wise.

If anyone knows the answer to this it will help me decide.

Drunky
03/19/2008, 11:22
"Undecided"

It will depend on their dials. Wait and see...

CarlosMucha
03/19/2008, 11:25
well, this ovbious will be a sucess.

Heroclix Alpha Spider-Man will be next.

CarlosMucha
03/19/2008, 11:27
OK - so say the local venue has half a dozen new players attracted to the store by the product and they ask you, as an experienced player, to help with the rules. Would you say no?

Not buying the product is one thing - eveyone has a choice on what they spend their money on. But surely ALL players should be supporting the product, because future releases of core products may depend on this doing well.


I think think that support this is give the chance to change werever rules of the game that they want (not that they really want or care about our permition :p but...).

JackAssterson
03/19/2008, 11:28
Are the figures going to have new stats?


Yes.

.........................

Glen Quagmire
03/19/2008, 11:35
Are the figures going to have new stats? Heaven knows most of the Bat villains need a redo stat wise.

If anyone knows the answer to this it will help me decide.

New dials and point costs for all the figures in Alpha. It's either in the announcement or the post from Prophus that's been floating around.

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/dc/gameresources.asp?cid=41727


If WK sees the sales do well, then they'll make more of these Heroclix: Alpha sets that deviate from the standard rules. If future sets do well, then the buyers are encouraging WK to re-use sculpts (hurting sculptors) and dramatically change the rules of the game.

We did see the slideshow indicate more Alpha sets would come out pending sales of the first one. Doesn't seem like the commitment is quite there for Alpha long term yet. We have a long ways to go before Alpha rules impact the regular game.

As far as the sculptors, are they not paid for the re-use of their work? I'd assume it wouldn't be at the same rate as if they were doing new work. But aside from that, in this period where WK is letting go of sculptors and there's greater (overblown to a point) scrutiny about the sculpts by players, why should WK divert their sculptors' energy into a trial product?

DareDevil_13
03/19/2008, 16:24
I'm undecided as of right now. I'm going to wait for a little more info before I decide on it.

PMMJ
03/19/2008, 16:26
in this period where WK is letting go of sculptors and there's greater (overblown to a point) scrutiny about the sculpts by players,

I think the complaints about the degrading quality of the sculpts is very relevant, and in no way overblown. The amount of money I spent on this game began to decline when the sculpts and paint jobs started to decline.

Artie Deco
03/19/2008, 17:10
As far as the sculptors, are they not paid for the re-use of their work?
Oh, I would seriously doubt that. They're almost certainly paid on commission. Once the work is done, it becomes WK's property, to do with as they please.

Artie Deco
03/19/2008, 17:15
with it being a 30 figure set, a friend and I have discussed splitting a brick

I doubt they'll sell it by the brick. You'll be hard-pressed to find it at your FLGS anyway. It will be more readily available at Wal-mart and Target.

Did they sell Halo Actionclix by the brick?

Dr. Morbius
03/20/2008, 15:19
As far as the sculptors, are they not paid for the re-use of their work? I'd assume it wouldn't be at the same rate as if they were doing new work. But aside from that, in this period where WK is letting go of sculptors and there's greater (overblown to a point) scrutiny about the sculpts by players, why should WK divert their sculptors' energy into a trial product?

True...I'm sure if this does well, follow-up products (Alpha type) will have new sculpts instead of reissues. Making brand new sculpts for something WK fears could fail is simply too risky, hence the reissue of old sculpts !!