The Trophy Room: Donna Troy

[ol_Dut]

ol_Dut's LE Review: Donna Troy
by Justin Dekker

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Crisis boosters gave us a Rookie and a Veteran Wonder Girl, but much to my dismay, no Wonder Woman. Now, just for good measure here comes LE Donna Troy who serves as the Experienced version of Wonder Girl to try and prove that like celebrity deaths, good things came come in threes as well. Does it work out or should Donna Troy get tied up with a golden lasso and remain unplayed for all of her days? Click on “Read More” to find out!

[ol_Dut]

Here's the dial for LE Donna Troy.

#102 E Donna Troy
Team: Titans
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 80
Keywords: Amazon, Teen, Teen Titans
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:a-fist: Purple Ray: Donna Troy can use Support, but can treat friendly characters 3 or fewer squares away as if they were adjacent.
:g-starburst: Lasso: Donna Troy can use Incapacitate as if she had a range value of 6. If she successfully hits a target with a ranged combat attack when using Incapacitate, after resolving the action you can put the target in an unoccupied square of clear terrain adjacent to and at the same elevation as Wonder Girl.


And here is what Rookie Wonder Girl has going on.

#003 R Wonder Girl
Team: Teen Titans
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 60
Keywords: Amazon, Teen, Teen Titans
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:g-starburst: Lasso: Wonder Girl can use Incapacitate as if she had a range value of 6. If she successfully hits a target with a ranged combat attack when using Incapacitate, after resolving the action you can put the target in an unoccupied square of clear terrain adjacent to and at the same elevatino as Wonder Girl.


LE Donna Troy’s Gains vs. Rookie Wonder Girl
That twenty point increase may seem like a big deal, but Donna packs a host of upgrades into her dial for those 80 points. For starters, she adds one click of life over the Rookie. She not only acquires three clicks of Flurry, but also three of “Purple Ray” a special power that lets her heal teammates from up to three squares away. She also gains one more click of the gimmicky but useful “Lasso” special power. Her list of additions come to a close with two more clicks of Combat Reflexes and two 17 defense clicks.

LE Donna Troy’s Losses vs. Rookie Wonder Girl
Donna Troy’s losses consist of nothing more than one less click of Toughness than the Rookie Wonder Girl. That’s it. Usually there’s a lot more to say here, but I’d have to lie to make that work which I’m not going to do. The dial is what it is. Completely unrelated to anything, I finally got around to seeing “Hostel II”. It seemed alright but it wasn’t as scary or as gory as it should have been, not by a long shot. There were a lot of missed opportunities. “P2” on the other hand was a delight from start to finish, and if you haven’t seen “The Host” yet, after you get done reading the rest of this review, scurry off to your video store of choice and either buy or rent that thing. Other than that, this week I have purchased a great deal of vegetables, spent a lot time working on elder care issues and I dang near got my nose while sparring at Karate. I also need a haircut, a drink and a snack but not necessarily in that order and none of them are going to get resolved in the next 20 minutes anyway so what does it matter? Also, we’re supposed to get snow tonight. Yipee. So there, now you’re all caught up with me. How are you all doing?

Neutral Dial Tinkering
Here there’s a little bit more to say, but not much more. The LE has Charge on her second click instead of the first like Rookie Wonder Girl. Toughness leads off for Donna which then fades to Combat Reflexes, while the inverse is true for Wonder Girl. Finally, Donna opens with two (2) damage to start and then gets some threes (3s) instead of starting with threes (3s) and then fading to twos (2s) like Rookie. Look at that! Three whole things!

If ol_Dut had to Choose
LE Donna Troy vs. Rookie Wonder Girl? While I greatly miss the lead-off click of Charge, I dig LE Donna Troy and here’s why. Donna is one of a group of very rare dual purpose figures. For the first half of her dial, she’s a rounder pure and simple. Donna is made to move in on a foe and start the punishment. First she grabs an object and moves up next to whomever she wants to crush – preferably someone with an action token. The next round she pushes to Flurry, handing out four (4) clicks of damage on her first attack (assuming she had a heavy object) and two (2) on her second attack. That push leaves her attack and defense numbers unchanged but puts her onto three (3) damage and Charge. One extra click of the “Lasso” special power is handy also as it allow her to not only Incapacitate an opposing figure but reposition them as well making her an excellent choice to go after Mastermind fodder.

For the last half of her dial, Donna is all about helping the team with her “Purple Ray”. Similar to Lex Luthor’s (JL) ability to Mastermind damage at a distance, “Purple Ray” enables Donna to heal a friendly figure from three squares away. Since the power itself says nothing about having a line of fire to the target friendly figure, it may be possible for that power to work not only through walls, but through Stealth as well. And that little dose of Flurry at the end of her dial is just what the doctor ordered to make opponents think twice about picking on the medic. This Amazon is no helpless and hopeless Jane Foster back row nurse. However, if ever there were a figure with a power named “Orange Julius”, I would not advocate thinking twice about anything but just basing them immediately and demanding some delicious fruity drinks. And it should also be noted that figures with the “Purple Rain” special power must be allowed to “go crazy”, wear frilly jumpsuits, live like a hermit, and must always, always be allowed to win at basketball while doves cry after pretending to be married to your momma, your sister and/or your girlfriend and doing certain unmentionable things in a hotel lobby among other places for a couple of hours or the next seven years.

I cannot understate how much I miss the Rookie’s opening click of Charge with three (3) damage and Super Strength, but where Rookie Wonder Girl feels like a use once and discard piece, Donna Troy’s evolution throughout the course of the game makes her a constant threat. If she can’t beat on someone for some respectable damage, she’s going to be able to heal up her friends. No matter what click she’s on, the person across the table is going to have to account for her in some way. And in the end, that’s what makes her a great figure and why the impossible to ignore LE Donna Troy is going to be my choice every single time.

Quick and Dirty Price Tag
Donna is not holding value at all despite her utility. She can be yours for $15 or less, and it's usually less.

That's all for this week, Next up is Garth! Thanks for reading!

[houdinimachine]

I like Donna Troy, but is it true that Purple ray can support through walls?

[Kenny Wisdom]

Awesome post! I love reading these things, and I pretty much agree with you about everything. I fielded my LE for the first time this week and she did pretty decently.

[Hadez]

Great review, Dut!
I really want that LE

[Who?]

I'm waiting to use her until I get Jason Todd The Boy Blunder. That weekend I will use all of the LE Titans together just for the hell of it. It's gonna be great! Besides I think the Teen Titans needed their own healer because JSA has Dr. Midnite and JLA has...Aquaman? lol Anyways DC super teams need a healer if they are popular right? haha jk.

[Paradox Factor]

I like Donna Troy, but is it true that Purple ray can support through walls?

Right now it looks like it. Purple Ray doesn't say it requires LoF to the target. It also is worded so Donna could use it on herself. She is 3 or fewer squares from herself. So she is a legal target.

[phantalien]

Thanks for pointing out purple ray. I now think Donna Troy is a more useful Clix.

[fastcat99]

Right now it looks like it. Purple Ray doesn't say it requires LoF to the target. It also is worded so Donna could use it on herself. She is 3 or fewer squares from herself. So she is a legal target.

Yeah, but it says she can use support. Support has to target an adjacent friendly character. If support wording would allow it, then yes, but the power itself doesn't.

[theanalogkid]

Good review. I haven't used her yet but I plan on it.

[I Am The Game]

See, I'm not seeing the benefit of Purple Ray at all. To use Support, the healer and the target cannot have an opposing fig adjacent to either of them, right? Well, Donna's purely a close combat piece with no range value, so unless you move her up, that's 80 points of meat shield. She has a special power that drags opposing figures adjacent to her. Also helpful considering her close combat-oriented dial, but at what point do you ever expect to use Support? The potential to use Support means you have to take her out when she lands on it, but it's a 16 defense at range. Is there anyone who can't hit that anymore?

Two thumbs down to Donna Troy.

[Wolverine_Hulk]

Great Review!

[Valentyne]

Yeah, but it says she can use support. Support has to target an adjacent friendly character. If support wording would allow it, then yes, but the power itself doesn't.

Very true. Support requires that you make an attack on a friendly target adjacent to the supporter. As Donna is the supporter, she wouldn't be able to heal herself, although the Purple Ray SP combined with the Titan's TA really make for an intersting combination.

Remember, too, that for Support to work, the target can not be engaged with an opposing figure. They may be 3 or fewer squares away, but it is rendered useless if they are in combat with someone else. For the wording, I would imagine that Line of Sight (Line of Fire, whatever you wanna call it) would not be an issue so long as the afore mentioned pre-requisites are met.

Aside from all of that, Donna Troy seems like a good investment for 80 points, especially when you consider she can be used on three viable theme teams.

[NeoShazam]

I still can't believe that advertised Wonder Woman in the Crisis announcement and we didn't get one.

Donna LE is okay...I miss that first click charge and the way I'd use her, she'd be based with somebody so the Support likely wouldn't work. A little bit overpriced for points and dollars at this time, I'm not in any hurry to pick one up.

[CARV03]

The LE's are ok Wallie being the best so far I think. I won The Speedy today and traded for an Iron Spiderman. Mainly, I think the Sculpts are lamo. Their powers are ok at best(free force blast excluded) that power is nice. Pair up manuver with his free force blast and you can do all sorts of things. Like knock into a wall, off a building, into the open...

[vamroc]

I'm waiting to use her until I get Jason Todd The Boy Blunder. That weekend I will use all of the LE Titans together just for the hell of it. It's gonna be great! Besides I think the Teen Titans needed their own healer because JSA has Dr. Midnite and JLA has...Aquaman? lol Anyways DC super teams need a healer if they are popular right? haha jk.
Use the version of Nightcrawler in mid Teleport and mod it to took like Jason Todd being blowin to bits HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It would look friggin AWESOME mounted on a flight stand so we can how big the blast was and how many pieces land on the ground.

[Who?]

Use the version of Nightcrawler in mid Teleport and mod it to took like Jason Todd being blowin to bits HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. It would look friggin AWESOME mounted on a flight stand so we can how big the blast was and how many pieces land on the ground.

Thats just sick! lol Still funny though. :knockedou

[antedoX]

I agree on all points. A haircut, a drink and a snack are definitely in order.

[Paradox Factor]

Very true. Support requires that you make an attack on a friendly target adjacent to the supporter. As Donna is the supporter, she wouldn't be able to heal herself, although the Purple Ray SP combined with the Titan's TA really make for an intersting combination.


SUPPORT (OPTIONAL): Give this character a power action and make an attack roll against an adjacent target friendly character as though making a close combat attack. Neither this character nor the target may be adjacent to an opposing character; ignore all combat value modifiers
for purposes of this attack. If the attack roll succeeds, roll one d6 and subtract 2 from the result, minimum result 1. The target is healed of damage equal to the result.

Purple Ray: Donna Troy can use Support, but can treat friendly characters 3 or fewer squares away as if they were adjacent.

According to Purple Ray, any character 3 or fewer squares from Donna can be treated as adjacent for Support. Now, Donna Troy is in a square 3 or fewer squares from herself and she is friendly to herself. Theirfor, she is a legal target for Support. It's the same idea as Tempest's Summon the Element's power. Any square of clear terrain that does not contain objects, terrain markers, or debris 3 or fewer away from Tempest is considered to be water terrain. That means the square he's in, as long as it's clear is water terrain

[Insulares]

I love how you give us all these ideas for teams. great work!

[Adam_Warlock]

SUPPORT (OPTIONAL): Give this character a power action and make an attack roll against an adjacent target friendly character as though making a close combat attack. Neither this character nor the target may be adjacent to an opposing character; ignore all combat value modifiers
for purposes of this attack. If the attack roll succeeds, roll one d6 and subtract 2 from the result, minimum result 1. The target is healed of damage equal to the result.

Purple Ray: Donna Troy can use Support, but can treat friendly characters 3 or fewer squares away as if they were adjacent.

According to Purple Ray, any character 3 or fewer squares from Donna can be treated as adjacent for Support. Now, Donna Troy is in a square 3 or fewer squares from herself and she is friendly to herself. Theirfor, she is a legal target for Support. It's the same idea as Tempest's Summon the Element's power. Any square of clear terrain that does not contain objects, terrain markers, or debris 3 or fewer away from Tempest is considered to be water terrain. That means the square he's in, as long as it's clear is water terrain
note the highlighted part, specifically mentions adjacent friendly, meaning another figure. If what you are suggesting were true then all figs w/ support could heal themselves.

[Paradox Factor]

note the highlighted part, specifically mentions adjacent friendly, meaning another figure. If what you are suggesting were true then all figs w/ support could heal themselves.

Reread Pruple Ray. Purple Ray: Donna Troy can use Support, but can treat friendly characters 3 or fewer squares away as if they were adjacent.

Bolded for emphesis. Donna is fewer then 3 squares from herself right? That means she can be treated as adjacent for use of Suport from herself. The Purple Ray power lets her treat herself as adjacent to herself because she's fewer then 3 squares away from herself. Support doesn't disallow this. And what I'm saying doesn't allow characters with Support from healing themselves. They aren't legal targets to use it on themselves because they can't be adjacent to themselves. Donna can be.

[Iceman425]

You can't be adjacent to yourself. Unless you are Jamie Madrox.

I like her, I would just most likely require rolling breakaway (which I never hit) in order to get her into support mode. I'm scared I really would never be able to find myself in a great position to use it.

[AEONFLUX]

...However, if ever there were a figure with a power named “Orange Julius”, I would not advocate thinking twice about anything but just basing them immediately and demanding some delicious fruity drinks. And it should also be noted that figures with the “Purple Rain” special power must be allowed to “go crazy”, wear frilly jumpsuits, live like a hermit, and must always, always be allowed to win at basketball while doves cry after pretending to be married to your momma, your sister and/or your girlfriend and doing certain unmentionable things in a hotel lobby among other places for a couple of hours or the next seven years.


Priceless.

[Paradox Factor]

You can't be adjacent to yourself. Unless you are Jamie Madrox.

In normal rules, yes you can't be. But Purple Ray creates an exeption. This is the same exception that allows her to be ajacent to someone 3 or fewer squares away, at diffrent elevations, or on the otehr side of blocking terain, ect. Purple Ray creates an exception

Here, let me try something else that'll hopefully clear this up. Purple Ray states she can target anyone 3 or less squares away for Support. I'm going to take adjacent out of the discription of Support, since this is what it replaces, and plop that in it's place.

PURPLE RAY COMBINED WITH SUPPORT - Give this character a power action and make an attack roll against any target friendly character 3 or fewer squares away as though making a close combat attack. Neither this character nor the target may be adjacent to an opposing character; ignore all combat value modifiers for purposes of this attack. If the attack roll succeeds, roll one d6 and subtract 2 from the result, minimum result 1. The target is healed of damage equal to the result.

Is this a little clearer now? She treates all friendly characters 3 or fewer away from her self as legal targets. She if fewer then three from herself and she's friendly to herself. Therefor she is a legal target for Purple Ray.

[tyroman]

if she was meant to heal herself they would've included Regen in the power. it's what i think. :grin:

[blackprince]

From my understanding of the two powers, Paradox Factor is exactly on target. Purple Ray creates an exception where Donna can use Support on herself.

[Jingbandit]

the lasso ability helps with those pesky tie up pieces and really helps when some one is sitting on a one way ladder

[Hindsight]

I think I would be more torn, if I was hurting for those 20 points. My feat selection sucks, so I don't mind the upgrade price, I think its a fair trade off. I too miss that first click of Charge, as once she is taking damage, she is already based, so you may not get a chance to charge something else.

What I like about Donna is, you ignore her, at your own peril. She is coming for you regardless, and if you go after big point figures you're going to have to either ignore her, or divide your fire, and ignored, Donna will hurt you.

Teen Titans Theme Team

Nightwing and Starfire - 125
w/ Sidestep
Captain Marvel Jr. - 157
Donna Troy LE - 80
Roy Harper LE - 53
Wally West LE - 72

Total 497

I am taking this to the 500 point all DC tourny in a few, and I think it will be a lot of fun to play.

Titans Go!

[bigmike1]

Is this a little clearer now? She treates all friendly characters 3 or fewer away from her self as legal targets. She if fewer then three from herself and she's friendly to herself. Therefor she is a legal target for Purple Ray.
She's not a legal target for Support.

You can’t target a friendly character with an attack. A character can never target itself with any attack or power—damaging or healing—unless a power, feat, or other game effect specifically says otherwise.(emphasis mine)
Nothing in her power says she can target herself .
Purple Ray: Donna Troy can use Support, but can treat friendly characters 3 or fewer squares away as if they were adjacent.
Is she friendly (to herself)? Yes. Is she 3 or fewer squares away from herself? Yes.
Does this power state she can target herself? No.

[ol_Dut]

She's not a legal target for Support.
(emphasis mine)
Nothing in her power says she can target herself .

Is she friendly (to herself)? Yes. Is she 3 or fewer squares away from herself? Yes.
Does this power state she can target herself? No.

Is she adjacent to herself? Probably not. Even if she's so mad that she's "beside herself" she still can't be adjacent to herself.

[bigmike1]

Is she adjacent to herself? Probably not. Even if she's so mad that she's "beside herself" she still can't be adjacent to herself.
Bwahahaha! Why are they called "apartments" when they're so close together?:laugh:

[krusticlese]

Right now it looks like it. Purple Ray doesn't say it requires LoF to the target. It also is worded so Donna could use it on herself. She is 3 or fewer squares from herself. So she is a legal target.

I love how folks hear bits and pieces of discussions and then preach it as if it's written law. :noid:

[Paradox Factor]

Yeah, I got to consede. What bigmike1 pointed out in the rulebook does prevent her from using Purple Ray on herself. But it's the only thing I can see that would. Rep to you for pointing that out.

I love how folks hear bits and pieces of discussions and then preach it as if it's written law. :noid:

No clue what that was supost to mean. I was just trying to add to the conversation while backing it up rules wise. Like I said, everything as far as I can tell would allow her to use it on herself, exept for what bigmike1 pointed out.