Rise of the Midnight Sons

[Kazzigum]

Hey there all!

Okay, a couple weeks back when WizKids plans for the year were leaked, I realized that us Midnight Sons/real monster fans just were not gonna get any love, pretty much ever. Really, I think they may not even ever create Morbius. Seriously, I understand what they were shooting for with M&M, but you guys really could not just give everyone Morbius? Just 1 character slot? Okay.

But that's alright. It's all good. I'll just do it myself.* So I've decided to do something I've been meaning/planning to for some time -- create my own Midnight Sons set. So, since I don't have time to do it myself, and I'm not as good as him anyway, I've commissioned our very own CustomCreator to create a whole 30 peice set for me.

I want it to be as complete of a 'real' set as it can possibly be. So, unique scupts, new/unique dials, new pogs/feats/BFCs/special objects, a few new event dials, new character cards. I can do some of it myself, but I'm seeking aid for certain things.

I'll be creating my own dials for most of the set, though my brother -- RobotCowboy will be working on some of those that I don't know as well as he. So, what I'd really enjoy is some feedback from all you fellow fans on my dials. Critiques are welcome. Just keep in mind, these dials will not be uber-game-breaking pieces if I can help it. I try my best to price dials out as fairly as possible, and I always err on the side of too expensive if it does not seem right.

So, a couple things to keep in mind:

1) 30 piece set, Alpha style in regards to uber theme
2) 3 new team abilities, complete with new symbols
3) all pieces will be costed to the nearest 5 point increment, as we plan to convert it all to Horrorclix at the end as well (my brother's a super Horrorclix fan).
4) Most characters will be costed/created towards the Midnight Sons era of the mid 90s.

Okay, I'll post my Morbius first in a seperate post.

Oh, and Custom has provided me pictures of Morbius and Caretaker so far, so if anyone can help me to add them to posts as a thumbnail or something, I be very greatiful.

If you'd all like to see the set list, I'd be happy to post it too.

Thanks for listening,

Kazzigum


*With loads of help from other great artists, especially CustomCreator!

[Irishmystic]

I like this idea.Been a fan of the Midnight Sons since their inception.Please post the pics of anything you create.

[evereadyhdst]

I hope Damon Hellstrom will be in your set. Ever since Patsy Walker was made I have been waiting for him. I know I would buy this set in heartbeat!

[CustomCreator]

Keep watching this space, true believers! I'm working hard on this set, and so far results are looking pretty darned good if I say so myself!!

Thanks, Kaz, for your interest in my work!

[TheFreak]

Caretaker (http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4124/cat/500/ppuser/8864)

Here's MY Caretaker that I made...he's using the V Ghost Rider dial...something to work from.

I'd love to see some of these dudes...sad that most of the area has barely been touched.

[Red_Skull_XIII]

Kudos to all of you for undertaking such a daunting task. Let's all hope it turns out as well as you hope.

[CustomCreator]

Well, that's not the Caretaker our good friend Kaz has asked for. He meant this guy. (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/caretr.htm)

[Kazzigum]

And here's Morbius, circa Morbius issue #12.

E Morbius
Team: Midnights Sons
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 80
Keywords: Lilin, Midnight Sons, Monster, Scientist
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal98162891628815278152771426814269132KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - Midnight Sons: New Team -- Same as Suicide Squad, except that characters that are KOed must have only Midnight Sons key word.

[Kazzigum]

BTW Custom, Caretaker it looking good. Both my brother and I were very impressed.

:cool:

[kontrol]

And here's Morbius, circa Morbius issue #12.

E Morbius
Team: Midnights Sons
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 90
Keywords: Lilin, Midnight Sons, Monster, Scientist
m-winga-normald-normalg-normal98162891628815278152771426814267132KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - Midnight Sons: New Team -- Same as Suicide Squad, except that characters that are KOed must have only Midnight Sons key word.
You know I think you might have went a bit high in regards to cost.

I think that may be closer to a 75 point piece, if that.

[Kazzigum]

You know I think you might have went a bit high in regards to cost.

I think that may be closer to a 75 point piece, if that.

You might be right, but are you factoring in the team ability? I have SS pegged as pretty expensive.

[CustomCreator]

BTW Custom, Caretaker it looking good. Both my brother and I were very impressed.

:cool:

Thank you very much!

[Doombot 3.1]

The powers look interesting and fun to play, but Morbius' attack value is just too low. Even if you have an expensive TA, 90 points is too much to pay for a guy with only 1 click of 9AV (and only on his second click). I think you're okay if you raise his attack values by 1 on every click.

[kontrol]

You might be right, but are you factoring in the team ability? I have SS pegged as pretty expensive.
Yeah it's expensive but look at the other ~70-80 point cost SS
lg009 V Enchantress
Team: Suicide Squad
Range: 8 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 75
Keywords: Mystical, Shadowpact
m-winga-fistd-normalg-starburst10101729916288152881427713276112KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO

un048 V Killer Frost
Team: Suicide Squad
Range: 8 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 76
Keywords: Suicide Squad, Society
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or032 E Copperhead
Team: Suicide Squad
Range: 2 :bolt:
Points: 79
Keywords: Suicide Squad
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or029 E Knockout
Team: Suicide Squad
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 80
Keywords: Brute, Suicide Squad
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un027 V Deadshot
Team: Suicide Squad
Range: 8 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 71
Keywords: Secret Six, Suicide Squad
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Most of them either have really expensive powers (Incap, Running shot) Higher attack values, high dual target range or higher defense values. With the combat values and powers, Morbius currently has I think 75-80 is a good slot to have him in.

[DarkCorsair]

You might be right, but are you factoring in the team ability? I have SS pegged as pretty expensive.

Well, considering another 0 range Suicide Squad piece, think about the beauty that is Bronze Tiger. He doesn't have the same healing capacity as your Morbius, but has higher combat values on average and is a sweet 60 points. I think you could bump down Morbius's cost a little, as suggested, and still have a fairly priced piece given the flight and healing type powers in Regen and Steal Energy.

[Kazzigum]

This is great. Exactly the input I was looking for. I'm using the best dial calculator I can find, but we all know that those only go so far. Morbius is a Spidey-level villain/anti-hero, and as such, I feel his Attack Values are pretty accurate. Spidey villains pretty much top out at 10 AV, which is Kraven/Green Goblin/peak Electro (old Doc Ock is NOT accurate in this regards and Bullseye is a special case). Morbius is a scientist 'gifted' with vampire powers, and not primarily a fighter. Top 9 AV that he does not start with seems about right. He certainly is not in the same combat class as Spidey's expert warrior villains. He is very resiliant, though, as has been pointed out.

Given all that, it seems that the consensus is that he is too costly. So I'll drop him to 80 points. Maybe a tad higher than some of you would like, but as I said, I'd prefer to err on the side of expensive. I'm aiming at Sinister here as opposed to Crisis, which seems to be amping up the Power Creep factor. 80 does feel right, as that's about where I felt he should be before I started design.

Great stuff guys, thanks again. Please feel free to add further input if it occurs to you. I'll be off to work soon, but I'll try to add another character once I get home.

[Kazzigum]

Well, considering another 0 range Suicide Squad piece, think about the beauty that is Bronze Tiger. He doesn't have the same healing capacity as your Morbius, but has higher combat values on average and is a sweet 60 points. I think you could bump down Morbius's cost a little, as suggested, and still have a fairly priced piece given the flight and healing type powers in Regen and Steal Energy.


Good points, though probably not the best example. BT is pretty outrageous, and I think at least marginally accepted to be broken. Still, I think you are right. 80 points it is!

:)

:cool:

[Doombot 3.1]

I appreciate that you don't want power creep, but you don't want to make the guy somebody that only hardcore theme players will ever use either. 80 points is a lot to spend on someone with only 1 click of 9AV that you have to push to get to. At least start him with 9AV for say, 2 clicks, and maybe give him another click of 9AV towards the end of his dial.

[Kazzigum]

Hey Custom, can you thumbnail or otherwise attach the picture of Morbius to the original post that I put his stats in? You're doing fabulous work, you should show it off to these guys.

Okay, off to work for me!

[CustomCreator]

Hey Custom, can you thumbnail or otherwise attach the picture of Morbius to the original post that I put his stats in? You're doing fabulous work, you should show it off to these guys.

Okay, off to work for me!

I've added Morbius and Caretaker to my photo gallery (http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=556)! Enjoy!

[RobotCowboy]

I've talked to Kazzigum, and we're likely to fix up Morbius a bit, drop to 80 pts, add a click or two of 9 AV, etc.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

We hadn't planned on Hellstorm, but are trying to think about making room for him now. Great idea.

I've got preliminary stats made for the SoV (Ghost Rider (DK), Blaze (w/ Hellfire Shotgun), and Vengeance) as well as Scarecrow, Skinner, Caretaker, and Centurious. I'll let Kazzigum post them as it is his set, when he feels they're ready for wider feedback.

Thanks guys.

[Jackofhearts2005]

This is amazing.

Keep it up. Maybe I'll make a Blade dial so you guys can tell me I'm being too much of a fanboy. :p

[CustomCreator]

Some day I'd love to do a Blade in his original, Shaft-inspired costume!!

"I heard that Blade is a bad mutha--"

"Shut yo mouth!"

"But I'm talkin' about Blade!"

"And I can dig it!"

[Kazzigum]

This is amazing.

Keep it up. Maybe I'll make a Blade dial so you guys can tell me I'm being too much of a fanboy. :p

Blade is on the agenda, and I found a really wicked picture of him with a spear right from this era (circa Nightstalkers issue #12) -- can't wait to see what Custom can do with that. I'll be doing his dial, but I have him pegged at 65 points, so don't get too excited there Jack. ;) But don't worry, if you want an uber-Blade, we got you covered. We're adding Blade as the Demogourge in the set as well, and I've got him pegged as 150+ points.

:cool:

[Jackofhearts2005]

Oh, I think 65 points is about right. I wouldn't want him to be Nightwing overpowered. ;)

150 points Switchblade seems about right too. I mean, he ripped through King and Blaze pretty quick while taking blasts from the hellfire shotgun and linda.

Can't seem to find that spear picture you're talking about. Issue 12 as in Short Circuit Part 1? There's a picture of him with a spear in issue 7 where he fights Ghost RIder.

[Kazzigum]

Oh, I think 65 points is about right. I wouldn't want him to be Nightwing overpowered. ;)

150 points Switchblade seems about right too. I mean, he ripped through King and Blaze pretty quick while taking blasts from the hellfire shotgun and linda.

Can't seem to find that spear picture you're talking about. Issue 12 as in Short Circuit Part 1? There's a picture of him with a spear in issue 7 where he fights Ghost RIder.

No, you are right. The picture is from #7 -- its circa Morbius #12. Thanks for keeping me on my toes there.

:cool:

[Kazzigum]

Okay, in defference to Doombot, I went ahead and gave Morbius a 9 AV on his last click, a 2 point swing. I like the whole amping up of AV back dial as he surrenders himself to the hunger completely. I editted the earlier post so that it shows te final version.

Now, how about a villain:

U Demogoblin
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 80
Keywords: Monster, Mystical
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[Red_Skull_XIII]

Here (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2918796&postcount=1) is a list of Midnight Sons-esque characters I made for my Monsters & Mutations wants (none of which were made by the way).

Great work to all parties. Can't wait to see the rest.

[CustomCreator]

Work is progressing well on the Midnight Sons mega-set! I've usually got anywhere from 5-10 customs in various stages of completion on my worktable; I do a bit on one, then move on to another, then another, etc. Right now I've got Doppleganger, Lilith, Demogoblin, and Blade in the "semi-completed" stage!

[GreenMonster]

Hey whiney-pants, it looks like the squeeky nerd got the grease,

The new DR STRANGE has the MIDNIGHT SONS Keyword...

have fun with that one...

[Kazzigum]

Hey whiney-pants, it looks like the squeeky nerd got the grease,

The new DR STRANGE has the MIDNIGHT SONS Keyword...

have fun with that one...

While that's great, I never said anything about Dr. Strange. :ermm: He's already had two versions, and this one looks cool too. Still doesn't detract from the fact that they're never gonna make Strange, his alter-ego, that he created during this era. Strange WILL be in my set.

So, dude, if you think I'm whiney, why are you even reading this thread?

:rolleyes:

[Kazzigum]

Here (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2918796&postcount=1) is a list of Midnight Sons-esque characters I made for my Monsters & Mutations wants (none of which were made by the way).

Great work to all parties. Can't wait to see the rest.


Pretty cool. I like you're Hobgoblin. Neet special powers on those guys too. I think that Ghost Rider is a bit powerful, but we'll be making his E version, so that's okay.

I'm with ya though.

:cool:

[Kazzigum]

Caretaker (http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4124/cat/500/ppuser/8864)

Here's MY Caretaker that I made...he's using the V Ghost Rider dial...something to work from.

I'd love to see some of these dudes...sad that most of the area has barely been touched.

Dude, that mod is friggin awesome. Excellent work. But, yeah, Custom is right -- wrong Caretaker for me.

[GreenMonster]

While that's great, I never said anything about Dr. Strange. :ermm: He's already had two versions, and this one looks cool too. Still doesn't detract from the fact that they're never gonna make Strange, his alter-ego, that he created during this era. Strange WILL be in my set.

So, dude, if you think I'm whiney, why are you even reading this thread?

:rolleyes:


I'm not being harsh, I'm just busting your ballz a bit...I'm sure there will be a few more to come in SI

My money is on Hellstrom, he'd be pretty pimp.

[Red_Skull_XIII]

PI think that Ghost Rider is a bit powerful, but we'll be making his E version, so that's okay.

I'm with ya though.

:cool:
I honestly thought mine was underpowered. I meant it to be Johnny from the current monthly series, where he goes toe-to-toe with World War Hulk.

I figured that he'd be pretty strong.

[Kazzigum]

I'm not being harsh, I'm just busting your ballz a bit...I'm sure there will be a few more to come in SI

My money is on Hellstrom, he'd be pretty pimp.

Ahh, that's cool. My bad then. Yeah, I do believe a few of these characters will be made eventually -- perhaps even in Secret Invasion. I'm thinking Morbius, another Blade and a new Nightmare will all eventually be made. Then again, they could just keep stringing us along. In the meantime, I'll ave the set of my dreams.

Hey, anyone have an opinion on Demogoblin? Looking at him, I think he might be too expensive. How's 70 points sound?

[Kazzigum]

I honestly thought mine was underpowered. I meant it to be Johnny from the current monthly series, where he goes toe-to-toe with World War Hulk.

I figured that he'd be pretty strong.

Ah Ha! Well, from what my brother has told me of that series, I think you are probably right. Is that the Devil Hobgoblin, then, too?

[Red_Skull_XIII]

Ah Ha! Well, from what my brother has told me of that series, I think you are probably right. Is that the Devil Jack O'Lantern, then, too?
(edited for you) Yes it is. Definitely should be clix'd. He'd be amazingly powerful.

[RobotCowboy]

He'd have to be (Jack O' Lantern), as he fought Ghost Rider for 4 (or was it 5) issues. It was the longest lets fight a B-Villain (C?) streak I've seen in a while. Of course, I did enjoy the hell out of it. And still do.

[Dr. Morbius]

With Morbius winning the third People's Champ Poll I expect him within the next 3 sets (starting with Secret Invasion). I just hope James von Schaik or Brian Dugas will sculpt him. I could do with crappy stats...but never with a crappy sculpt (like Psylocke XP...this ruins playing the figure for me completely).

[RobotCowboy]

Yeah, but it'll be Disco Morbius, not cool MS Morbius sculpt.

[The Vision]

#030 V Vengeance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vengeance_%28comics%29)
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 /
Points: 102
Keywords: Midnight Sons, Police, Monster
m-normal-transa-normald-normalg-normal11111731010163991639915288152881437914379133KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOAttack - Penance Stare: When Vengeance makes a ranged combat attack, the damage cannot be reduced below 1.
Damage - Blind Rage: Vengeance has Battle Fury. He may not carry other characters. When making a transporter attack, Vengeance cannot move after the attack.

Real Name: Michael Badilino
First Appearance: GHOST RIDER Vol.2 #21
First Appearance: GHOST RIDER / BLAZE: SPIRITS OF VENGEANCE #9
Background: A police officer whose family has been killed by the demon Zarathos, Michael Badilino mistook Ghost Rider for Zarathos and attacked him. Unsuccessful, Badalino bartered his soul to Mephisto for the power to battle Ghost Rider. Mephisto's actions rather than empowing Badilino, unleashed the mystic potential that was already present. Badalino as a holder of 1/3rd of the Medalion of Power was reborn as Vengeance. Earth-616.

[Kazzigum]

#030 V Vengeance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vengeance_%28comics%29)
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6 /
Points: 102
Keywords: Midnight Sons, Police, Monster
m-normal-transa-normald-normalg-normal11111731010163991639915288152881437914379133KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOAttack - Penance Stare: When Vengeance makes a ranged combat attack, the damage cannot be reduced below 1.
Damage - Blind Rage: Vengeance has Battle Fury. He may not carry other characters. When making a transporter attack, Vengeance cannot move after the attack.

Real Name: Michael Badilino
First Appearance: GHOST RIDER Vol.2 #21
First Appearance: GHOST RIDER / BLAZE: SPIRITS OF VENGEANCE #9
Background: A police officer whose family has been killed by the demon Zarathos, Michael Badilino mistook Ghost Rider for Zarathos and attacked him. Unsuccessful, Badalino bartered his soul to Mephisto for the power to battle Ghost Rider. Mephisto's actions rather than empowing Badilino, unleashed the mystic potential that was already present. Badalino as a holder of 1/3rd of the Medalion of Power was reborn as Vengeance. Earth-616.

Well, that's a pretty good take on Vengeance, though much different than ours -- which I plan to post in a day or two. I like the battle fury power, though not the Penace Stare. Veangence rarely used the Penance Stare, and even when it is used (by Ghostrider as well), it is always an up close and in your face kinda thing. It certainly would not be a ranged attack. There are a couple other things I'd do differently, but I'll just post the dial in a couple days to illistrate those.

Thanks for the sharing Vision!

[Kazzigum]

Okay, and now for something completely different. Our first character with special powers -- Lilith, and she's got a bunch.

U Lilith
Team: Lilin
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 110
Keywords: Lilin, Mystical
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal7817178171671616716169161510151KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - Mother of Demons : Once each turn, as a free action, Lilith can assign any one of the following powers to any character with the Lilin keyword that is still in play: Battle Fury, Energy Shield/Defection, Regeneration, Steal Energy, Stealth or Willpower. The assigned power does not trump any current power the target character currently has showing on his or her dial, but rather is treated as in addition to such a power. A power assigned using Mother of Demons remains with the target character until the beginning of Lilith’s next turn.
Attack - Rift to the Dark Dimension : Lilith can use Mastermind, Poison and Smoke Cloud (as a free action).
Defense - Unholy Birth: Give Lilith a power action. Put a SPECIAL marker in any unoccupied square adjacent to Lilith; this is the unholy child token. The unholy child token is not a character or terrain, but can be destroyed as if it were blocking terrain. Characters that do not possess the Lilin key word must break away from the unholy child token. Opposing characters that begin their turn with a clear line of fire to the unholy child token must roll one sixed-sided die when given any action other than a free action. On a roll of 5 or 6, the action cannot be taken, though the character is still given an action token. No more than one unholy child token can be on the map at a time.
Damage - Demonic Sorceress : Lilith can use Enhancement, Probability Control, Shape Change and Support.

Lilin Team ability -- same as old Masters of Evil.


Not too sure about the 110 points -- all the special powers makes it tough to guesstimate.

[The Vision]

#047 V Skinner (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/skinnr.htm)
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 /
Points: 93
Keywords: Mystical, Monster, Warrior, Lillin
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Real Name: Unknown
First Appearance: Spirits of Vengeance#3
Background: The most feared warrior among the children of the demon queen Lilith, Skinner fought at his mother's behest for millenia. With Lilith's defeat eons ago, Skinner became less and less aggressive and began to blend in with the mortals he had once hunted. When Lilith returned and called him back to her service, he slaughtered his family and took his place by his mother's side. Earth-616.

[RobotCowboy]

#047 V Skinner (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/skinnr.htm)
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 /
Points: 93
Keywords: Mystical, Monster, Warrior, Lillin
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Real Name: Unknown
First Appearance: Spirits of Vengeance#3
Background: The most feared warrior among the children of the demon queen Lilith, Skinner fought at his mother's behest for millenia. With Lilith's defeat eons ago, Skinner became less and less aggressive and began to blend in with the mortals he had once hunted. When Lilith returned and called him back to her service, he slaughtered his family and took his place by his mother's side. Earth-616.

Good Skinner. Very similar to mine but like 2x the cost (and all that entails). Maybe a happy medium is gonna be called for.

[CustomCreator]

Without further ado......

THE DOPPLEGANGER! (http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4853/size/big/cat/556)

[Kazzigum]

Without further ado......

THE DOPPLEGANGER! (http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4853/size/big/cat/556)

WOO HOO!!!! Awesome. Dude, you are the Man! But, hey, can you send me a jpeg picture too? I've contracted vegeta1978 to do character cards, so I need all this stuff to foward to him to get that ball rolling.

:cool: :classic: :knockedou


Guess I'll need to post Doppelganger's dial here sometime soon.

[Trypswitch]

Why not make the Midnight Sons' team ability be just like the Bats TA?

There is no TA in marvel that grants stealth, and these figures are pretty much all about the darkness...

Just a thought.

[Kazzigum]

Actually, that is an erroneous belief. While some of the Midnight Sons are prone to hide in the shadows, many do not -- especially the most popular (Ghost Rider). Ghost Rider, Johhny Blaze and Vengeance drive huge, loud hell-fire bikes. There is nothing about them that is stealthy. Ghost Rider and Vengeance's heads are on fire. On FIRE! There is nothing stealthy about a guy whose head is on fire. Furtermore, Ghost Rider never hides or lurks, he just walks up to you out in the open and demands vengeance. He let's you take your best shot and then he beats you into submission. Like Superman, he's just not the hiding kinda guy. Strange, while he has the ability to render himself invisible, rarely uses it or fights that way. I can't see him with perma-stealth that is accurate. Sure, guys like Morbius, Blade, Hannibal and even Frank Drake could have stealth, but I don't think require it always to be accurate.

No, I think suicide squadesque is the way to go.


Why not make the Midnight Sons' team ability be just like the Bats TA?

There is no TA in marvel that grants stealth, and these figures are pretty much all about the darkness...

Just a thought.

[Red_Skull_XIII]

No, I think suicide squadesque is the way to go.
If Marvel didn't already have one, I'd suggest Ultimates/Superman Ally. The abundance of magic and supernatural tracking abilities and whatnot would be well represented through ignoring hindering on movement and attacking.

[The Vision]

Midnight Sons: Figures with the Midnight Sons TA can ignore the first click of damage that they are dealt each game.


...Furtermore, Ghost Rider never hides or lurks, he just walks up to you out in the open and demands vengeance. He let's you take your best shot and then he beats you into submission. Like Superman, he's just not the hiding kinda guy...

[RobotCowboy]

Another reason for SS basis for MS team ability is to help represent the long, long, long arcs we are building most of this set from, i.e Rise of The Midnight Sons and Seige of Darkness, where the MS just keep going, and going, fight after fight, no matter how many of them fall (like when Dr. Strange "dies", or during the Midnight Massacre where they all die, and the remainders just fight harder against Switchblade).

[Dr. Morbius]

...Rise of The Midnight Sons and Seige of Darkness...Midnight Massacre ...

*sigh* those were the days :(

[T. Paul Stiles]

Yeah. I recently just completed my Darkhold collection (including all cross over issues). It's a shame that Marvel's truely unique books just never last.

[CustomCreator]

It's a shame that Marvel's truely unique books just never last.

I felt the same way in the 70s. One of Marvel's most unique concepts ever was Skull the Slayer, and look how long that lasted. (Of course, it did suffer from Changing Writer Syndrome; three writers in eight issues!) The original (and to me, one true) Deathlok was another cool 70s concept that died an early, undeserved death.

[CustomCreator]

Presenting: BLADE THE VAMPIRE SLAYER! (http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4932&cat=556)

And he's a graveyard smash!

[Red_Skull_XIII]

Presenting: BLADE THE VAMPIRE SLAYER! (http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4932&cat=556)

And he's a graveyard smash!
Fantastic job as always. I might have to steal some of your ideas, as i have three sets of those Lemax Tombstones and really only have room for one.

[Kazzigum]

Presenting: BLADE THE VAMPIRE SLAYER! (http://www.hcrealms.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4932&cat=556)

And he's a graveyard smash!


Ooooh, very cool. Yeah, Blade! I'll be posting both is dial and Caretaker's dials in a couple days? Anyone have any feedback on Demogoblin or Lilith? I'm particularly interested on Lilith and her bevy of special powers.

Thanks.

[Kazzigum]

Yeah. I recently just completed my Darkhold collection (including all cross over issues). It's a shame that Marvel's truely unique books just never last.

Yeah, I've been going back and rereading all these story arcs as research for making the dials -- really the stories are pretty good (some are great). People just see 90s and assume it is ####. Sad really.

:disappoin

[CustomCreator]

Fantastic job as always. I might have to steal some of your ideas, as i have three sets of those Lemax Tombstones and really only have room for one.

Check my photo album for my customs of Mr. Monster and the Spook, for other tombstone treasures!

[CustomCreator]

Two new additions to the Midnight Sons set:

THE DEMOGOBLIN! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94028541@N00/2510254790/in/set-72157604805225281/)

and

MARTINE BANCROFT! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94028541@N00/2510254836/)

[Kazzigum]

WOO HOO! Super cool! Thanks Custom! I guess I'll need to put up Martine's dial. Man, swamped at work right now. I wish I ad more time to put these dials up. I suppose I'll just do it in a lump later this week.

:cross-eye

[CustomCreator]

Thanks for the kind words, Kazz! And folks, if you like my customs, please come vote for me in Unsung Hero's modder's challenge! I'm not doing too well so far!

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233550 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233550)
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233544 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233544)
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233548 (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233548)

[CustomCreator]

Two new additions:

LILITH, MOTHER OF DEMONS! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94028541@N00/2522558155/)

and

WEREWOLF BY NIGHT! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94028541@N00/2523381278/)

[Kazzigum]

Well, it has been a while. I know that many are preoccupied by the Secret Invasion spoilers, but for those interested, I'll post a couple more dials. First off, Caretaker.

#024 U Caretaker
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 140
Keywords: Blood, Midnight Sons, Mystical
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[Kazzigum]

And another:

#011 V Blade
Team: Nightstalkers
Range: 4 :bolt:
Points: 65
Keywords: Detective, Midnight Sons, Nightstalkers, Warrior
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal810172791627916269152681515815157152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODefense - Relentless : Blade can use Tougness and Willpower.
Nightstalkers (Team ability): Modify this team member’s attack value by +1 against characters with either the Lilin or Mystical key word.

[gudda]

I love this thread. I was a huge Midnight sons fan. So I recently started modding up my own team ( morbius , and were wolf by night .. and a john blaze ) im currently working for a Frank Drake. The guys I play with dont mind my modding but they like me using an existing dial. I Just happen to have an extra captain ben Daimio dial .. I think its a great representation of how Frank would be in clix form. Just thought I would add my two cents. ( and sorry im way too computer stupid to post the dial here )

[Jackofhearts2005]

#047 V Skinner (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/skinnr.htm)
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0 /
Points: 93
Keywords: Mystical, Monster, Warrior, Lillin
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal9111728101728101638916379162791527815168141KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO
Real Name: Unknown
First Appearance: Spirits of Vengeance#3
Background: The most feared warrior among the children of the demon queen Lilith, Skinner fought at his mother's behest for millenia. With Lilith's defeat eons ago, Skinner became less and less aggressive and began to blend in with the mortals he had once hunted. When Lilith returned and called him back to her service, he slaughtered his family and took his place by his mother's side. Earth-616.

Sweet dial. Skinner is a pretty cool character, certainly my favorite of the Lilin.

And another:

#011 V Blade
Team: Nightstalkers
Range: 4 :bolt:
Points: 65
Keywords: Detective, Midnight Sons, Nightstalkers, Warrior
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal810172791627916269152681515815157152KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKODefense - Relentless : Blade can use Tougness and Willpower.
Nightstalkers (Team ability): Modify this team member’s attack value by +1 against characters with either the Lilin or Mystical key word.

Not a bad dial at all. Certainly much better than the one we have. Not so sure about the rce and regen though. Wasn't Blade human for the majority of the Nightstalker series? Also, I might not have his attack drop quite as fast. He seemed to do a lot of things like tossing two knifes and knocking away somebody's guns with them or slicing bugs in half with his sword.

I do like that he has one click of stealth and a lot of L/C though. I just imagine him doing ridiculous things like jumping from hot air balloon to hot air balloon in one issue. Love willpower + toughness on him too.

I agree with you guys that the whole Midnight Sons series was great. Definitely more creative than anything else I've read from the time period. Unfortunately, while I have the full collection of Spirits of Vengeance, Nightstalkers, Darkhold, Morbius and Midnight Sons Unlimited, I'm missing all the issues of Ghost Rider that tend to start each crossover. :(

[gudda]

I love this thread. I was a huge Midnight sons fan. So I recently started modding up my own team ( morbius , and were wolf by night .. and a john blaze ) im currently working for a Frank Drake. The guys I play with dont mind my modding but they like me using an existing dial. I Just happen to have an extra captain ben Daimio dial .. I think its a great representation of how Frank would be in clix form. Just thought I would add my two cents. ( and sorry im way too computer stupid to post the dial here )

Well I have became a little more computer smart. So here is my representation of Frank Drake ( or Captian ben Diamio )

V Frank Drake
Team: Spider man
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 65
Keywords: Mid-night sons , Night Stalkers, The nine,
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If I had a better understanding of the points formula I would kick around the idea of a special power based on the excorcist gun. for exmaple ...

Linda Blair : Frank Can use Psychic Blast against targets with the Mystic , or Demon keyword ...

[CustomCreator]

Two new additions: Skinner (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94028541@N00/2625965579/) and Scarecrow (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94028541@N00/2625965531/)!

[Kazzigum]

Custom,

Dude, I just received the first 10 peices, and just wanted to say -- Wow. Just wow. Even the characters I had a little doubt about -- and those were few -- are just amazing!

Lilith -- Man the jpeg just doesn't do her justice. When you get the full 3-D view, she really is great! Great paint job, nice dynamic pose. Only criticism, I wish her head was lifted a bit more so she was looking her enemies a bit more in the face. Still, great figure!

Morbius -- Just WOW! Love, love, love this model. Once I slap my dial in there, I say its the perfect Morbius. I don't even care if WizKids ever makes one now.

Blade -- Much more dynamic pose than I first thought. Great detail on the paint job. Really looks like he is pouncing down upon some poor, unsuspecting bloodsucker. Only complaint again, I wish his head was tilted upwards a bit more and looking ya in the face. And man, great detail on that face.

Caretaker -- Just amazing. Looks even better in 3-D. Love him. He's great!

Doppleganger -- Great, dynamic pose. Really, looks wicked and gangly and ready to swing down on Venom or Spidey. Great job. I still need to tweak my dial a bit, as I'm not quite happy with it, but then he'll be perfect.

Martine Bancroft -- Great pose, love the red energy and the way it is positioned around her. Menacing and powerful-looking. I like it. Only criticism, her face is probably the weakest of the ten. The eyes are a bit clownish, kinda Jokery. The dress and high-heels are really well done -- evokes the grainy images from those issues of Morbius and Marvel Presents I supplied perfectly.

Demogoblin -- The jpeg view just doesn't do him justice. Great detail all over, ripped clothing, long (fabulous) tongue, long pointed cowl, devilish face on the glider and even the tiny golden skull on his belt! Wonderful detail. Really diggin' him. Only criticisms -- wish he had some sorta flame trail from the back of the glider like Green Goblin (gonna have to go through my bit boxes and see about adding something) and I was wondering about the costume being gray instead of black? Maybe it was just poor pictures provided by myself, but maybe you had a reason too. Just thought I'd ask. Wicked-lookin' villain!

Skinner -- Really great paint job and a niiiice dynamic pose with lots of movement. My brother and I were just talkin' about him -- my brother is a big Skinner fan -- and he really does not disappoint. Gonna love beatin' on Midnight Sons with him.

Scarecrow -- Nice, classic scarecrow figure with detailed paintjob and nice pose. Face is particularly good

Werewolf By Night -- Man, this was the sleeper. What a great rendition! He's actually furry on the head AND the backs of his arms! My wife just could not get over that. She loved it. Me too. Paint job and the little details are really nice, too. The golden wolf belt buckle is just fabulous detail from the picture I provided. Bravo. Now, I just need to design a respectable dial to go with him.


And to think, that's just the first 10! Seriously, I hope you don't mind the little cricisms, I just wanted to be honest. And I wanted to say this -- looking at the ten of them standing there together on the table, they just look great. Top-notch and professional, they really look real set quality and look great together. No joke, I'm gonna drool over this set when its finished. I so want to just launch into continuing the designs, but as we discussed, I just can't spare the time with the work program I'm in right now. :( But come November, I'm sooooooo gonna be all over it again. Please pencil me in. Really, I can't wait. In the meantime, I'll try to squeeze a new dial or two in here when I get the chance.

Custom, I hope I didn't swell your nugget too much there, but great job. Seriously. If you ever need any recomendations, I'm your man.

Off to play with my Morbius. Droooolll...........

:laugh:

[CustomCreator]

Thanks for all the kind words! I'm really glad you enjoyed the customs! I had a great time making them; even though I wasn't familiar with most of the characters (or at least, with the 90s versions of them).

Looking forward to finishing the set in November!

[Kazzigum]

Okay, here's our version of the loveable Frank Drake...

#006 V Frank Drake
Team: Nightstalkers
Range: 8 :bolt:
Points: 55
Keywords: Detective, Midnight Sons, Nightstalkers
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal7916278162681516815157141KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOAttack - Linda’s Caress: Frank Drake can use Energy Explosion. When Frank Drake uses Energy Explosion, damage dealt is penetrating damage to any character with the Lilin or Mystical keyword.
Defense - Supernatural Tracking System : Frank Drake can use Willpower. Frank Drake ignores the effects of hindering terrain for the purposes of line of sight to any character with the Lilin or Mysical keyword.
Damage - Linda’s Kiss : Frank Drake can use Ranged Combat Expert, but only against characters with the Lilin or Mystical keyword.
Nightstalkers (Team ability): Modify this team member’s attack value by +1 against characters with either the Lilin or Mystical keyword.

[Kazzigum]

Well I have became a little more computer smart. So here is my representation of Frank Drake ( or Captian ben Diamio )

V Frank Drake
Team: Spider man
Range: 6 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 65
Keywords: Mid-night sons , Night Stalkers, The nine,
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If I had a better understanding of the points formula I would kick around the idea of a special power based on the excorcist gun. for exmaple ...

Linda Blair : Frank Can use Psychic Blast against targets with the Mystic , or Demon keyword ...


Not bad. Pretty close to what I think he should be actually -- have a look above. However, there's a couple things off I think. First, Frank should not have that good an AV -- no way he should have an 11. I really like the Nightstalkers team ability I created for them -- it makes them real good attackers against the supernatural, while still being about right against the rest of the Marvel universe. People have to remember that these guys are street-level characters. Blade is clearly the best fighter among them, and he should top out at a 10 AV (which with the Nightstalkers, gives him a sweet 11 vs the guys HE is trying to kill). These guys are not Captain America or Thor, no way they should have AVs or 11 or 12. Frank should not have mutiple bolts -- that's not how Linda works. She just shoots one big blast to supernatural-bustin' power. Frank should not have the Spidey team ability either, the Nightstalkers don't play nice with anybody else. Even when 'teaming' up with others, there not very good team-mates. Lastly, I'm not sure about the leadership. If any one of the three is the leader, I guess it's him, but really they just suffer from too much in-fighting and bullheadedness to have any leader.

Still, real close though.

[gudda]

Not bad. Pretty close to what I think he should be actually -- have a look above. However, there's a couple things off I think. First, Frank should not have that good an AV -- no way he should have an 11. I really like the Nightstalkers team ability I created for them -- it makes them real good attackers against the supernatural, while still being about right against the rest of the Marvel universe. People have to remember that these guys are street-level characters. Blade is clearly the best fighter among them, and he should top out at a 10 AV (which with the Nightstalkers, gives him a sweet 11 vs the guys HE is trying to kill). These guys are not Captain America or Thor, no way they should have AVs or 11 or 12. Frank should not have mutiple bolts -- that's not how Linda works. She just shoots one big blast to supernatural-bustin' power. Frank should not have the Spidey team ability either, the Nightstalkers don't play nice with anybody else. Even when 'teaming' up with others, there not very good team-mates. Lastly, I'm not sure about the leadership. If any one of the three is the leader, I guess it's him, but really they just suffer from too much in-fighting and bullheadedness to have any leader.

Still, real close though.

I figured someone could make a real good frank dial ( some one better than me) Thanx for the vote of confidence on the closeness of the dial. As I said before the guys I play with Prefer I use existing dials. Yours is awsome.

on a somewhat related side note, Does anyone else wish they would have used the old midnight sons dagger for the Mystic team ability in marvel ?

[CustomCreator]

on a somewhat related side note, Does anyone else wish they would have used the old midnight sons dagger for the Mystic team ability in marvel ?

I usually use the Eye of Agamotto for my mystic Marvel mods...

[Kazzigum]

I figured someone could make a real good frank dial ( some one better than me) Thanx for the vote of confidence on the closeness of the dial. As I said before the guys I play with Prefer I use existing dials. Yours is awsome.

on a somewhat related side note, Does anyone else wish they would have used the old midnight sons dagger for the Mystic team ability in marvel ?

This is exactly the symbol I'm using for the Midnight Sons -- and Custom has added it to the dials of Morbius so far. Frank, Blade and Hannibal will not have it, though, they have the Nightstalkers symbol that Custom created. It, too, is nice.

Still, that Midnight Sons dagger is the best -- Morbius, Blaze, Ghost Rider... ahhhhh. It's gonna be great.

Thanks for the props on the Frank dial. I was pretty happy with that one.

:cool:

[Popinjay]

Who's still left unmade? I want in

[Kazzigum]

Who's still left unmade? I want in


Actually, the set has 22 more characters that need to be made. I have the set list, though I have not posted it yet -- no one has asked me to. I'm currently trying to decide on the last place character -- as WizKids actually made Unthinkable Doom (I would have lost a bundle on that bet).
The frontrunner for that last character right now is Vampire Storm (pretty sure she's in).

I've created several more of the dials, and my brother has done a few more, that I have not yet posted. Right now I've not yet given the go to Custom to work on the next 10 because I don't really have the time to do the research (:cry:), so it looks like it'll be November before he and I get back to seriously working on the set. Still, I have the feeling I might cave-in and get Custom back to work before then (at which point I'll be suffering seriously from lack of sleep and my wife-beatin' cause I'm spending too much of what little free time I do have reading comic books).

I'm a sick man. :confused:

[CustomCreator]

Who's still left unmade? I want in

If you want customs of these made, PM me, bro!

[CustomCreator]

Morbius -- Just WOW! Love, love, love this model. Once I slap my dial in there, I say its the perfect Morbius. I don't even care if WizKids ever makes one now.

Do you still think so?

[Kazzigum]

Do you still think so?

I do actually. I think your Morbius is better. The one they did make is the 70's disco version (which I knew would be the one they made, if they ever did), though he is painted in the darker modern colors that he appeared in on the cover of League of Monsters recently, or perhaps from Spider-Man 10-11 (McFarline-era). I like him well enough, and the model is not bad, but I just think yours is better. The dial is okay as well. I thought it over-powered at first, and perhaps it still is a bit, but once you factor in the fact that my dial has a team ability, flies and has a bit of charge, I think it pretty much evens out. I do think the defensive power is a bit much, and that special powers were not necessary for Morbius, but hey. Whaddya gonna do?

It is also worth noting that the SI version of Morbius is a villain, as he does not have the Midnight Sons keyword (which is fitting, as only the 90s version we made should be a hero (anti)).

[Popinjay]

Actually, the set has 22 more characters that need to be made. I have the set list, though I have not posted it yet -- no one has asked me to. I'm currently trying to decide on the last place character -- as WizKids actually made Unthinkable Doom (I would have lost a bundle on that bet).
The frontrunner for that last character right now is Vampire Storm (pretty sure she's in).

I've created several more of the dials, and my brother has done a few more, that I have not yet posted. Right now I've not yet given the go to Custom to work on the next 10 because I don't really have the time to do the research (:cry:), so it looks like it'll be November before he and I get back to seriously working on the set. Still, I have the feeling I might cave-in and get Custom back to work before then (at which point I'll be suffering seriously from lack of sleep and my wife-beatin' cause I'm spending too much of what little free time I do have reading comic books).

I'm a sick man. :confused:

Consider this me asking for the list. I've been wanting to do Vampire Wolverine, Man-Spider, and Cap Wolf for a long time.

[CustomCreator]

Thanks a lot, my friend!

Actually, Morbius became an "anti-hero" in the 70s when he had his own series in Adventure Into Fear. One problem was Giant-Size Super-Heroes #1, which came out after his own heroic series had started but portrayed him as definitely a villain. Hey; maybe the Morbius in GSSH was a Skrull!!!

I do actually. I think your Morbius is better. The one they did make is the 70's disco version (which I knew would be the one they made, if they ever did), though he is painted in the darker modern colors that he appeared in on the cover of League of Monsters recently, or perhaps from Spider-Man 10-11 (McFarline-era). I like him well enough, and the model is not bad, but I just think yours is better. The dial is okay as well. I thought it over-powered at first, and perhaps it still is a bit, but once you factor in the fact that my dial has a team ability, flies and has a bit of charge, I think it pretty much evens out. I do think the defensive power is a bit much, and that special powers were not necessary for Morbius, but hey. Whaddya gonna do?

It is also worth noting that the SI version of Morbius is a villain, as he does not have the Midnight Sons keyword (which is fitting, as only the 90s version we made should be a hero (anti)).

[Kazzigum]

Okay, I've got a few minutes, so for those interested, here's the set list so far (just need to work out the additional elements):


001 Sam Buchanan and Victoria Montesi duo (Midnight Sons)
002 Meatmarket (Lilin)
003 Blackout
004√ Scarecrow
005√ The Doppelganger
006 Frank Drake (Midnight Sons)
007 Zodiac
008√ Martine Bancroft (Lilin)
009√ Skinner (Lilin)
010 Deacon Frost
011√ Blade (Midnight Sons)
012 Blaze (Midnight Sons)
013√ Werewolf by Night
014√ Demogoblin
015 Hannibal King (Midnight Sons)
016√ Morbius (Midnight Sons)
017 Cap Wolf
018 Vengeance
019 Damon Hellstrom
020 Ghost Rider (Midnight Sons)[Ketch]
021 Salome
022√ Lilith (Lilin)
023 Modred and Jinx duo (Midnight Sons)
024√ Caretaker
025 The Demogorgue
026 Blackheart
027 Nightmare
028 Centurius
029 Zarathos
030 Storm (vampire version)

NGN Strange (Midnight Sons)
BibB Dracula (Minion of Doom)

Battlefield Conditions
BF001 Graveyard Fog
BF002 Dark Portal
BF003
BF004
BF005
BF006
BF007 The Medallion of Power
BF008

Feats
F001 Precience
F002 Bloodthirst
F003 Mystic Disruption
F004
F005
F006

Bystanders
MSB001 Stacy Dolan (SHIELD)
MSB002 Spitfire (Linin)
MSB003 Professor Louise Hastings (Midnight Sons)
MSB004 Pilgrim (Lilin)
MSB005
MSB006 Whistler
MSB007 Lakoda (Lilin)

Event Dials
The Siege of Darkness
The Malarkey Prophecy
Darkhold Dwarf
Rise of te Midnight Sons
Road to Vengeance

[sundown12]

I'd probably buy 2 cases of this set; awesome stuff! I love your choices and I can't wait to get more info on the different elements in this set. Any chance of getting Tatterdemalion in this set? One of my favorite comics from my youth was a marvel team-up with Spidey and Werewolf-by-Night taking on Tatterdemalion. Good stuff!

[Dr. Morbius]

Midnight Massacre should have been an event dial, but hey...maybe you make it a feat?
As an alternate TA feat, you could make "The Nine"....
What about a Spirits of Vengeance chase figure? :D

[Kazzigum]

Well my friends, I'm back. Time to continue on. We've got 10 figures done and I've just got Custom started again on the next 10. I'm looking to start this time with Sam Buchanan and Victoria Montesi duo and Hannibal King. From there I think we'll do Blackout, Blaze and Frank Drake in some order. I really think I'd like to do Ghost Rider and Modred & Jinx in this 10 as well. From there, I think I'll need to do some thinking.

Anyway, I'm working on the dials for the first two now, so I hope to be posting a preliminary dial or two soon.

:cool::cool::cool:

[Kazzigum]

Okay, here's the first new preliminary dial -- actually the first dial of the set. Figure (s) 001! Keep in mind, these people are NOT power houses. But, they do belong in the set, so there you go.

#001 E Sam Buchanan and Victoria Montesi
Team: Midnight Sons
Range: 6 :bolt:
Points: 35
Keywords: Midnight Sons, Mystical, Police
m-normala-duod-normalg-normal78162681526715157141KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - Visions : Sam and Victoria can use Probability Control and Shape Change, but only effecting characters with the Lilin or Mystical keyword.


This is a duo character.

[Kazzigum]

Well, I guess there's just no love for Sam and Vicki. Okay then, how about Hannibal?

#015 V Hannibal King
Team: Nightstalkers
Range: 0 :bolt:
Points: 80
Keywords: Detective, Midnight Sons, Monster, Mystical, Nightstalkers
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal991729816288162871627715278142KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - Mist Form: Hannibal King can use Phasing/teleport and Stealth. Hannibal King cannot use the Carry ability in the same turn he uses this power.
Damage - Bat swarms: Hannibal King can use Perplex, but only against opposing characters.


Custom, can you send me a jpeg of Blade again? I need to send it on to Vega to make the card.

Thanks!

[Kazzigum]

Custom, dude. I don't know what to say. Thanks for the Hellstrom X-mas gift. That was certainly unexpected and great all at the same time. Guess I'll need to find a replacement for him in the Midnight Sons list. So, which dial did you use for him?

[CustomCreator]

You're welcome, dude, and Merry Christmas! I used a Veteran Enchantress dial; best match I had lying around! Enjoy!

[CustomCreator]

Custom, can you send me a jpeg of Blade again? I need to send it on to Vega to make the card.

Thanks!

You or Vega can get it here! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94028541@N00/2495198179/in/set-72157604805225281/)

[CustomCreator]

Thanks for the Hellstrom X-mas gift.

You know, I almost did a joke figure and made The Son of Santa (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/sonofsantawhatthe.html). But I decided to play it straight instead. Happy Holidays!

[CustomCreator]

And for those who'd like to see the Hellstorm figure I made for Kazz, here it is! (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/album.php?albumid=27&pictureid=4414)

[Kazzigum]

And for those who'd like to see the Hellstorm figure I made for Kazz, here it is! (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/album.php?albumid=27&pictureid=4414)



Wooo Hooo!!!!!!

:cool:

[Kazzigum]

How about Nightmare?

#028 U Nightmare
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 10 :bolt::bolt:
Points: 160
Keywords: Deity, Mystical
m-normala-normald-normalg-normal8101818101817111717111718101719916199161109171KOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKOSpeed - Towering Tormentor : Nightmare has the <Giant> damage symbol.
Attack - Feast on Fear : Nightmare can use Incapacitate. When Nightmare successfully deals pushing damage using Incapacitate, he heals damage equal to the total amount of pushing damage dealt.
Damage - Nightmare Realm: Nightmare can use Outwit and Shape Change. When Nightmare uses Outwit, he can use it normally or choose to counter all powers of a target character within 5 squares.