Mafia Role, love it or hate it?

[anonym0use]

Personally, I hate being mafia. Not only am I no good at it, but I hate lying to people, even as part of a game.

So I was wondering, how many of you enjoy being mafia? Are you like me and groan when you see the "mafia" role in your inbox, or do you love trying to pull people's strings?

[Rokk_Krinn]

I'm mixed. Obviously I get tired of being Mafia and having the frequency used as a weapon but by the same token, when I am Town I spend so much of the game trying to convince people "No. This time I really am -not- Mafia." that I almost start to wish I was Mafia.

One thing I -do- enjoy about being a member of the Mafia (besides greater chance of surviving the first couple Nights) is the flow of information. I've spent most of my life trying to remove mystery and solve things so I'm an info-junkie; I hate when I'm Town and there are just too many unknowns (not UKnowns - we don't get him around enough in these games of late. :( ).

I will admit though that I really don't enjoy outright lying to people; it's why I have my silly personal "tell" about my roleclaims and it's something I should switch but, well, kind-of like the Riddler having to send out clues - I just can't do it.

[malakim2099]

I'm mixed. Obviously I get tired of being Mafia and having the frequency used as a weapon but by the same token, when I am Town I spend so much of the game trying to convince people "No. This time I really am -not- Mafia." that I almost start to wish I was Mafia.

One thing I -do- enjoy about being a member of the Mafia (besides greater chance of surviving the first couple Nights) is the flow of information. I've spent most of my life trying to remove mystery and solve things so I'm an info-junkie; I hate when I'm Town and there are just too many unknowns (not UKnowns - we don't get him around enough in these games of late. :( ).

Quoted for Truth. I'm about in the same boat. All my wins are with the mafia, and I think I'm fairly good at it, but I'd rather win with the town. It's more my nature, really.

[Shadow40]

I absolutely hated being mafia my first few times. I did not know how to play as mafia. I'm a little bit better now. The thing I like about being mafia is the challenge, if you win, the victory is that much more sweeter.

[kontrol]

I think I've won with the mafia once. But that was more due to player apathy than any skill at which I played the game. Still, getting mafia is a double edged sword. One, I don't really have to worry much about figuring out stuff, but two, I'm an absolutely horrible liar.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I really hate winning due to player apathy.

But I also hate dieing on night 1 and 2.

Kinda a toss up really. :cheeky:

[kontrol]

I really hate winning due to player apathy.

But I also hate dieing on night 1 and 2.

Kinda a toss up really. :cheeky:

yeah i hate that too.

[sstralkowski]

I enjoy it. Especially in vanilla games. :devious: My problem comes in the form of role claims. Most mods don't leave enough room for outlandish role claims like I do. I find that when I am caught, I come clean. It has always resulted in a lynch, but I'm just such a horrid liar.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Most mods don't leave enough room for outlandish role claims like I do.

9 times out of 10, there are a limited number of roleclaims. In X-Men mafia, you're generally going to have to claim as an X-Man (maybe one of their friends) to stay alive. In games where the number of roleclaims is smaller than the total number of players, there HAS to be some way for the mafia members to claim, such as a janitor.

Otherwise, you're just hoping you can take out enough townies quickly to gain majority because you know as a mafia member, you can't win in the end game because you can't roleclaim effectively.

[Magnito]

9 times out of 10, there are a limited number of roleclaims. In X-Men mafia, you're generally going to have to claim as an X-Man (maybe one of their friends) to stay alive. In games where the number of roleclaims is smaller than the total number of players, there HAS to be some way for the mafia members to claim, such as a janitor.

Otherwise, you're just hoping you can take out enough townies quickly to gain majority because you know as a mafia member, you can't win in the end game because you can't roleclaim effectively.
Take note mods: Always leave room for Role Claims.

[Shadow40]

Most times you have to be really, really luck with a roleclaim.

[Ignatz_Mouse]

It really depends om the theme.

My recent turns at being Mafia were in Transformers and Willow-- I know squat about Transformers (too old, missed the movie) and I saw Willow when it came out and not since-- and I kinda hated that. I had nothing to claim couldn't out-think or out-talk anybody with confidence. OTOH, I was the don in Watchmen, and I know that material cold (also included V for Vendetta). I had a lot of fun first playing everybody, and then trying to hold my mafia together as we got outed. I don't mind the lying, and I get the paranoid/accused/arguing thing whetehr I am town *or* Mafia so I might as well be sometimes.

I also enjoy the challenge of being Mafia. My town wins often feel like inevitability. I am not sure I've ever won as Mafia.

[goodman]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, for a guy who's mafia 90% of the time i don't mind it so much anymore, except for the fact that everyone knows that i'm always mafia

[malakim2099]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, for a guy who's mafia 90% of the time i don't mind it so much anymore, except for the fact that everyone knows that i'm always mafia

Vote: Goodman

:p

[MrFurious87]

I'm mixed. Obviously I get tired of being Mafia and having the frequency used as a weapon but by the same token, when I am Town I spend so much of the game trying to convince people "No. This time I really am -not- Mafia." that I almost start to wish I was Mafia.

One thing I -do- enjoy about being a member of the Mafia (besides greater chance of surviving the first couple Nights) is the flow of information. I've spent most of my life trying to remove mystery and solve things so I'm an info-junkie; I hate when I'm Town and there are just too many unknowns (not UKnowns - we don't get him around enough in these games of late. :( ).

I will admit though that I really don't enjoy outright lying to people; it's why I have my silly personal "tell" about my roleclaims and it's something I should switch but, well, kind-of like the Riddler having to send out clues - I just can't do it.

Seconded for truth.:)

It's a mixed bag for me also, I hate when there is no information and i'm town, and I really like being able to communicate with the rest of the mafioso's but it's pretty lame when we have to lie outright. Town is fun though, it's just that much more tough, especially when I really am town, and everyone thinks your mafia....:cry::laugh:

[Ignatz_Mouse]

I must be the only person who enjoys lying.

Uh, did I say that out loud? Whoops.

[The BoyBlunder]

Unless the game is very balanced, I have a hard time being mafia. In RL, I am very good at lying, but online I have met to make a claim that has been RokK-Proof.

[Thawmus]

I hate being Mafia. Not only am I absolutely awful at it, but I don't get to play like I usually do. And a lot of the fun of the game is taken out for me, as a result. Also, unlike most people, I revel being in the dark about everything. The less information I have available, the less I overthink my instincts.

[michiganj24]

Yeah excpet for my first game which even then had one or two open I have left the games so open that a lot of claims by mafia are possible
Still love Argentinan Gnome

I dont mind it as long as i am not in too many at once or their is nothing to claim (which is why I thought it a miracle i survived Mario Kart I mean their was NO wiggle room in claims but nobody asked me for one)
I actually like the challenged of outthink and outplay. I hate though when I want to make a claim and cant for being silenced. I know 2 days I want to make a believable claim in POTC and was silenced by the time i claimed people thought it fishy i never said anything before
I enjoy it. Especially in vanilla games. :devious: My problem comes in the form of role claims. Most mods don't leave enough room for outlandish role claims like I do. I find that when I am caught, I come clean. It has always resulted in a lynch, but I'm just such a horrid liar.

[CarlosMucha]

I absolute hate to be Mafia!
:p

I hate to be a bad guy. I hate to lie! (if is not to a woman).

Even if I win or not I feel guilty for lie. :p

[CarlosMucha]

...Argentinan Gnome



Your sister! :mad:

Oh sorry. :nervous: :p

[malakim2099]

Your sister! :mad:

Oh sorry. :nervous: :p

I have one word for you.

POMBERO! :laugh:

[CarlosMucha]

AHHHHH!!


filler.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Yeah excpet for my first game which even then had one or two open I have left the games so open that a lot of claims by mafia are possible


That was kind-of an odd situation; there was -plenty- of room for good fake roleclaims...and yet no one really snuck by with one whenever questioned about it. :ermm:

[spikerdude]

People will kill me whatever side I'm on. But I feel safer being mafia. I'll stay crazy on whatever side I'm on though ;)

[michiganj24]

Their were a few but I think the issue became that those claiming thought the game was wide open and it wasnt that and we had a way to clever townie who I let back in :laugh:
That was kind-of an odd situation; there was -plenty- of room for good fake roleclaims...and yet no one really snuck by with one whenever questioned about it. :ermm:

[sstralkowski]

It really depends om the theme.

My recent turns at being Mafia were in Transformers and Willow-- I know squat about Transformers (too old, missed the movie) and I saw Willow when it came out and not since-- and I kinda hated that. I had nothing to claim couldn't out-think or out-talk anybody with confidence.

Yeah, but When people will actually consider Iron Giant as a possible Role Claim, then you know anything goes. Even better if you occasionally throw a character on the town side that is very loosely related to the theme. That way, people will inevitably site those instances when someone claims something odd. I consider it all part of the balance of a game to consider these things thoroughly.

[michiganj24]

After you put the Kool Aid Man in I would have accepted the robot Bill and Ted's as a claim (which makes it all the more funny that Prowl was not believed. Mental not next game dont even bother claiming as town claim the most oddball claim you can think of for a SStrat game) Yeah, but When people will actually consider Iron Giant as a possible Role Claim, then you know anything goes. Even better if you occasionally throw a character on the town side that is very loosely related to the theme. That way, people will inevitably site those instances when someone claims something odd. I consider it all part of the balance of a game to consider these things thoroughly.

[Rokk_Krinn]

I believed you were Prowl. :)

[malakim2099]

I believed you were Prowl. :)

Me too! :cheeky:

[michiganj24]

Of course you guys did hence why I was lynched. And I think the most damning thing was that I had a mason partner and no way could we have another mason in the game. Sheeshs did everyoen forget whose game it was. I mean if I am in a Stan or ABF game I let things like that slide unless I have proof as they do nutty stuff
Me too! :cheeky:

[sstralkowski]

Of course you guys did hence why I was lynched. And I think the most damning thing was that I had a mason partner and no way could we have another mason in the game. Sheeshs did everyoen forget whose game it was. I mean if I am in a Stan or ABF game I let things like that slide unless I have proof as they do nutty stuff

One of the problems was that people assumed the Dinobots were a mason group. In reality, there were 2 mason pairs and one who needed to find one another. In a game of 40, I don't think that's too bad.

[michiganj24]

No and since I skimmed over the first 40 pages when i joined day3-4 I might have just avoided claiming it. Of cours eit was amazing how much hyperbole. When I said I was in a mason ok thats the 8 person to claim that so I dont what was going on
One of the problems was that people assumed the Dinobots were a mason group. In reality, there were 2 mason pairs and one who needed to find one another. In a game of 40, I don't think that's too bad.

[sstralkowski]

No and since I skimmed over the first 40 pages when i joined day3-4 I might have just avoided claiming it. Of cours eit was amazing how much hyperbole. When I said I was in a mason ok thats the 8 person to claim that so I dont what was going on

Yeah, that's why sometimes it's tough being a mod. You have to bite your tongue when people say things like "This is ridiculous! How many investigators do we have here?" or "The mod totally unbalanced this. That many masons is unfair." Two reasons for these statements help me let it go, well help me not post what I'm actually thinking. 1) They don't know the overall set-up so it could just be a reaction to their limited knowledge of the role setup. 2) It could be a tactic used by people to instill doubt in others, rather than actually take a shot at the mod. In the end, it alwasy seems to work itself out, but sometimes I really want to set the record straight because I hate to look like a fool.

[michiganj24]

Oh i so feel you on that. I know in my first game I modded I got raked over the coals by a few till they saw the final writeup. And I think it has seemed that way in a few of my other games (ironically the one I thought the most off balance no complaints public or private)
Yeah, that's why sometimes it's tough being a mod. You have to bite your tongue when people say things like "This is ridiculous! How many investigators do we have here?" or "The mod totally unbalanced this. That many masons is unfair." Two reasons for these statements help me let it go, well help me not post what I'm actually thinking. 1) They don't know the overall set-up so it could just be a reaction to their limited knowledge of the role setup. 2) It could be a tactic used by people to instill doubt in others, rather than actually take a shot at the mod. In the end, it alwasy seems to work itself out, but sometimes I really want to set the record straight because I hate to look like a fool.

[Rokk_Krinn]

That's not true - I complained when you took away my power. :cheeky:

[michiganj24]

Actually that was not the game I was talking about. That game I really thought was balanced (WELL AT LEAST UNTIL ROKK AND WAKANDAMAN BROKE IT :laugh::laugh:)
But since it still ended up being close I think it shows how balanced it was despite that
That's not true - I complained when you took away my power. :cheeky:

[Thawmus]

Of course you guys did hence why I was lynched. And I think the most damning thing was that I had a mason partner and no way could we have another mason in the game. Sheeshs did everyoen forget whose game it was. I mean if I am in a Stan or ABF game I let things like that slide unless I have proof as they do nutty stuff

No, the most damning thing was when they asked you for a list of my targets, which I gave you, and you didn't deliver.

You also were less aware than I was of your night targeting, even though I had Sstralkowski PM us a new list.

AND you said that you had targeted Rokk, when I was still alive, when you never had. So I vouched for him on my one and only day in the game, which I'm sure didn't hurt him at all.

[Rokk_Krinn]

No, the most damning thing was when they asked you for a list of my targets, which I gave you, and you didn't deliver.

You also were less aware than I was of your night targeting, even though I had Sstralkowski PM us a new list.

AND you said that you had targeted Rokk, when I was still alive, when you never had. So I vouched for him on my one and only day in the game, which I'm sure didn't hurt him at all.

Thawmus, I'm pretty sure the last two parts have nothing to do with "damning evidence" against him but, oh, I don't know - your own pent-up frustrations over something? :) I'm sure Michigan didn't mean any harm but the game's over...not sure if it's worth being quite so aggressive on him now is it?

[Thawmus]

Thawmus, I'm pretty sure the last two parts have nothing to do with "damning evidence" against him but, oh, I don't know - your own pent-up frustrations over something? :) I'm sure Michigan didn't mean any harm but the game's over...not sure if it's worth being quite so aggressive on him now is it?

The last item doesn't. The second item, it was an issue that day. I was watching. He suddenly remembered halfway through his lynching that he had targeted MSU. Which, again, didn't help him.

[DarqFeonix]

Thinking back to the michigan/Prowl lynching, I seem to remember the problem centered around the fact that all the targets he "cleared" didn't really mean much, as the Town all knew they were nearly 100% okay. The amazing impact, I think, he had on the game was the fact MSU kept pointing out how he was cleared, but combined with the Swapping done the same night, it left that last little twinge of doubt in my (and in turn 'cause I was hammering it home so hard, my mason partner's) eyes that kept the blinders up to the Dinobots/Autobots possibility.

Hell, I even said towards the end there was no way I was going to lynch Grimlock, I was so dead-set on MSU... really need to learn open my horizons and not get so focused on one or two targets.

Anyway though, back on topic, I'm finding this interesting to read, mostly because I've yet to be in a Mafia, so I don't know the interaction and all the lies that go into it. I see alot of comments from y'all that you dislike the lying and coming up with fake role-claims - however doesn't the fact you are in a Mafia from the outset really help that? The ability to bounce off ideas at all times without putting it out into the open?

From a Town perspective, I think it's why I get killed off early, in that I fear holding back my theories on the chance I'll die the next night anyway and all note-taking and such would be for naught. As a Mafia, you probably don't have to pay as much attention, as Mafia can help out with any questions... right?

/n00b

[Thawmus]

Thinking back to the michigan/Prowl lynching, I seem to remember the problem centered around the fact that all the targets he "cleared" didn't really mean much, as the Town all knew they were nearly 100% okay. The amazing impact, I think, he had on the game was the fact MSU kept pointing out how he was cleared, but combined with the Swapping done the same night, it left that last little twinge of doubt in my (and in turn 'cause I was hammering it home so hard, my mason partner's) eyes that kept the blinders up to the Dinobots/Autobots possibility.

Hell, I even said towards the end there was no way I was going to lynch Grimlock, I was so dead-set on MSU... really need to learn open my horizons and not get so focused on one or two targets.

Anyway though, back on topic, I'm finding this interesting to read, mostly because I've yet to be in a Mafia, so I don't know the interaction and all the lies that go into it. I see alot of comments from y'all that you dislike the lying and coming up with fake role-claims - however doesn't the fact you are in a Mafia from the outset really help that? The ability to bounce off ideas at all times without putting it out into the open?

From a Town perspective, I think it's why I get killed off early, in that I fear holding back my theories on the chance I'll die the next night anyway and all note-taking and such would be for naught. As a Mafia, you probably don't have to pay as much attention, as Mafia can help out with any questions... right?

/n00b

Actually, one of the things I hate about being the Mafia the most, is coming up with the fake roleclaim. I think it taints the game as a whole, but that's just me.

The only time I've ever enjoyed being Mafia was during Vanilla IV.

[MSU]

Mafia is harder than town...the paranoia you experience as a town member is nothing compared to what it is as mafia. Who is more of a threat? Who is going to target who? How do you turn the town against you? What should I role claim?

I love it. Town can be boring if you don't know what the heck is going on....mafia though, you usually control a lot of the strings.

[Rokk_Krinn]

Actually, one of the things I hate about being the Mafia the most, is coming up with the fake roleclaim. I think it taints the game as a whole, but that's just me.

The only time I've ever enjoyed being Mafia was during Vanilla IV.

But you don't -have- to come up with a fake roleclaim.

[Thawmus]

But you don't -have- to come up with a fake roleclaim.

Not if you win by a landslide, no. :cheeky:

[Rokk_Krinn]

Not if you win by a landslide, no. :cheeky:

I've had close games that I still wouldn't false claim so it's do'able. :)

[goodman]

It is hard coming up with suitable roleclaims to fool the townies, think the closest i've been able to come up with was Elmo in Sesamme Street Mafia, and thats only because i know our mafia or someone killed and Janitored him, shame too because i was only 3 kills away from winning too, Truffle jumped all over me and got me lynched though, curses :(

[DocDoom187]

Personally, I love being mafia.

For some reason, the only games I've ever played close to anything that could possibly be considered, maybe, remotely, passable, as good, were when I was mafia.

Besides, I tend to get killed off early, so if I'm going to get killed off it might as well be for a good reason.

I like deceit more anyways. It gives you more room for felxibility. When I'm a townie, I'm afraid to lie about any part of my role, because if it's ever found out no one will believe I'm actually a townie, and I'll die, being a waste to the town. As a mafioso though I can make up any story I want, and I like that. Plus I like being able to talk to others in my mafia, and organize and discuss what;s going on.

[JackAssterson]

I like being Mafia if I can concentrate on it.

I hate being Mafia if I'm in more than one.

I despise being Mafia if I'm in more than two. :squareeye

[Magnito]

I like being Mafia if I can concentrate on it.

I hate being Mafia if I'm in more than one.

I despise being Mafia if I'm in more than two. :squareeye
Quoted for the Truth.

As soon as you are in more then one, it sucks being mafia as there is too much going on.

I remember one time when I was in, like, 4 at once. It sucked.

[michiganj24]

Try being don in 3 at once and afraid that you will mix up the games and reveal something about a separate game
Quoted for the Truth.

As soon as you are in more then one, it sucks being mafia as there is too much going on.

I remember one time when I was in, like, 4 at once. It sucked.

[Rokk_Krinn]

I'm almost more at ease if I'm in multiple Mafias at once.

It's when I'm Town and Mafia in separate games that I have trouble not getting into the Mafia mind-set of "Trap the Townies". :o

[Jackofhearts2005]

Try being don in 3 at once and afraid that you will mix up the games and reveal something about a separate game

I'm worried about that even if I'm only mafia in one game.

[Thawmus]

I've had close games that I still wouldn't false claim so it's do'able. :)
I hate to point this out, but I'm not you, Rokk. I can't get away without a fake roleclaim. Furthermore, I can't even come up with one. I've yet to do so. I have a rather substantial record of being AWFUL Mafia. And I would argue that even the recent Vanilla Mafia win was tainted by the stench of absent players, and the fact that, oh, yeah, nobody had a role to claim. ;)

So, when someone with 20+ wins under his belt says that I don't need one, because, hey, he doesn't need one, I hope you can understand that I find it quite irritating. :ermm:

It's like Michael Jordan just told me I don't need to look where I'm shooting the basketball because, hey, he doesn't have to. :noid:

[Rokk_Krinn]

So, when someone with 20+ wins under his belt says that I don't need one, because, hey, he doesn't need one, I hope you can understand that I find it quite irritating. :ermm:


I certainly wasn't trying to be irritating (or rude or condescending or arrogant or whichever term best fits here). :( I was actually trying to say I understand your feeling about false roleclaims and not wanting to use them (well, I admit in my case it's become almost an OCD-trait and trademark...I feel like the Riddler trying to commit a crime without leaving an enigma). I was also trying to support you that if you don't want to make a claim, it's possible to play that way (but, yes, it's tougher) and encouraging you to do such so that you don't have less enjoyment when in the Mafia.

(As for my wins, come on, let's be honest here - most of those are not because of any capability on my part but because of extremely lucky situations, better teammates or in most cases, the fact that I play so darn many games....fire enough shotgun blasts at the right range and eventually you're going to hit the barn, right?)

[JackAssterson]

I feel like the Riddler trying to commit a crime without leaving an enigma

Dear Batman,

Hickory dickory dank
I'm going to rob the first national ____!

:devious:

[Rokk_Krinn]

Dear Batman,

Hickory dickory dank
I'm going to rob the first national ____!

:devious:

That's a conundrum - and barely that ;) - not an enigma. :p

[michiganj24]

The sad thing was their was a story where his riddles were that bad. Which actually confused Batman as he was trying to look for something beyond the obvious which was not their. So he outsmarted Batman by being dumb

[malakim2099]

Luck is a huge part of any mafia win. I mean, there's strategy sure, but it's like HeroClix (MafiaClix?). The best strategy in the world can't make up for blind stupid luck.

[Rokk_Krinn]

The sad thing was their was a story where his riddles were that bad. Which actually confused Batman as he was trying to look for something beyond the obvious which was not their. So he outsmarted Batman by being dumb

Speaking of Batman, if you have a chance to see "Batman: Gotham Knight" (the animated film) early, do so!

I posted more in the TV/Movie sub-forum but just wanted to emphasize to folks to watch it (at least when it comes out on Tuesday). I think you'll like it. :)

[michiganj24]

Not likely dont have the money for a DVD right now as I need either a new job, more hours or start selling stuff and sadly dont have too much of value outside my comp. I am only getting to see regular movies due to a bunch of free tickets. If I dont get a new job or more hours I am g
Speaking of Batman, if you have a chance to see "Batman: Gotham Knight" (the animated film) early, do so!

I posted more in the TV/Movie sub-forum but just wanted to emphasize to folks to watch it (at least when it comes out on Tuesday). I think you'll like it. :)

[DocDoom187]

Not likely dont have the money for a DVD right now as I need either a new job, more hours or start selling stuff and sadly dont have too much of value outside my comp. I am only getting to see regular movies due to a bunch of free tickets. If I dont get a new job or more hours I am g

Hulu.com anyone?

[majinmagog]

First time I was ever mafia was Resident Evil. That game made me love mafia games. I was the don, JOH2005 was an awesome mod and walked me through the early paces of getting actions in to him. ( I didn't realize that I could send him everyones actions :o) If not for a certain player freaking out It would've been the best game ever.

Since then the only things I dislike about mafia games are using proboards if I am mafia. I also don't like mafia don's not telling me what the heck is going on. (That's why Lex Luthor had to die)


Otherwise I love being mafia.

Playing the bad guy is so much more fun HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
:p;)

[michiganj24]

Thansk for the info but it wont have Batman. Its way too new (heck I am surprised they are allowing any movies on it period)
And people should check out Jack of all Tardes the show with Bruce Campbell it is one of his few staring roles and he was great. And Verne Troyer as Napoleon is hilarious
Hulu.com anyone?

[StormCrawler]

All my completed games have been on a different site (mafiascum.net), there I find it much more easy to win as mafia, than as town.

Although it can be harsh to have to lie, and possibly deliberately mislead people, it can be fun as well. I know for me it helps me be less of a 'softie' if you know what I mean.

As town, you just don't have enough information, and the endless possibilities can drive me crazy, especially if you're not certain about which roles there are, or could be there. That said, I find it challenging to be town, as it has more of the puzzling aspect.

[JackAssterson]

Although it can be harsh to have to lie, and possibly deliberately mislead people

I've never found that harsh, really. You sign up for a Mafia game, you've given informed consent for people to lie to you until their tongues are black. They HAVE to, or there's no game.

[get_1]

I've never found that harsh, really. You sign up for a Mafia game, you've given informed consent for people to lie to you until their tongues are black. They HAVE to, or there's no game.

Totally right. The fun of the game is seeing through the lies.

I don't know how many times I've had a gut feeling with no actual proof, acted on it, and been right. The problem then becomes lying to achieve your (justified) end result.

This is why I wish I could be the vigilante. Reckless, amoral, and totally killing people left and right. The only time I've been close to getting the vig role is being masoned with one, and telling him who to kill. :p

[KitsuShel]

This is why I wish I could be the vigilante. Reckless, amoral, and totally killing people left and right. The only time I've been close to getting the vig role is being masoned with one, and telling him who to kill. :p

No, thats a Serial Killer. A Vigilante player should try to be informed and not be reckless with taking out townies. The Vig is still a town role. SK are the ones who need to kill anyone and everyone.

[malakim2099]

No, thats a Serial Killer. A Vigilante player should try to be informed and not be reckless with taking out townies. The Vig is still a town role. SK are the ones who need to kill anyone and everyone.



What she said. A reckless vig will get lynched as a loose cannon. :)

[Rokk_Krinn]

What she said. A reckless vig will get lynched as a loose cannon. :)

And I'll probably be the one pusing for the lynch...which is a tad hypocritical as I'm iffy in the Vigilante role.

Give me a Daykill though and I can run with that. :devious:

[The BoyBlunder]

And I'll probably be the one pusing for the lynch...which is a tad hypocritical as I'm iffy in the Vigilante role.

Give me a Daykill though and I can run with that. :devious:

Shadupp.

:p

[get_1]

No, thats a Serial Killer. A Vigilante player should try to be informed and not be reckless with taking out townies. The Vig is still a town role. SK are the ones who need to kill anyone and everyone.



Hence why I've never received the vigilante role. :cheeky:

[malakim2099]

And I'll probably be the one pusing for the lynch...which is a tad hypocritical as I'm iffy in the Vigilante role.

Give me a Daykill though and I can run with that. :devious:

If only the Devil picked you. :p

[Rokk_Krinn]

If only the Devil picked you. :p

Kind-of funny really...the Devil ended Crypto and Trigon ended Titans; my two big Daykill roles (Time Trapper was a 'false Daykill' so don't think that counts and most other times they're one-shots).

[m_a_caque]

ok now that i'm out of mags game i can comment and not give away anything people don't already know.

my 2 wins came as mafia. though the one was after being recruited to a third party mafia (lotr) where i could actually claim my character.

the other win i was the don and got lucky/killed off the talkers quick enough that we won easily enough.

was it that fun. eh i guess not.

as for mags tv game. i thought i gave myself away far too early. but since i wasnt pressed for a roleclaim until late i kind of snuck by.

i guess we made some bad decisions for kill targets. and the killing of the non posters destroyed us. i know we lost at least 3 people, maybe 4 because they didnt post....

do i like being mafia. as the don, sure. as a lackey, i don't think i would as much.

i guess i like being more of a problem solver figuring things out on my own as town.
though i certainly wouldnt mind trying the serial killer role again.

oh and my haiku was awesome. lol

[Jackofhearts2005]

I really want to see what the haikus were after the game. I hope Mags kept them.

[anonym0use]

What I really like: being a mod. There's nothing like being able to edit your own posts.

[kontrol]

I hope Mags didn't mine was awful. :)