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What do you guys think? I have a lot of pieces, so I'm just trying to think of somebody who I can effectively build a team around. I don't have any chase Supermen, and we cannot use cardboard.
I've considered Crisis Black Adam, and maybe Ultimate Thor. I love me some HSS. For backup I'll probably use things like R Scarlet Witch (Fantastic Forces, for Stealth) and Spider-Man (SI) as well as Winter Soldier for some extra long range muscle!
If there is something I don't have, and it's not more than ten dollars or so, I can always buy it before the tourney. :)
So let me know what your favorite non-feated beasts are!
Thanks guys!
malakim2099
09/23/2008, 16:42
Hmmmmmmm.
I think Ultimate Thor is good. Black Adam is okay, but you want someone with range I think. Skrull Ms Marvel would also be good with some appropriate backup, as would the Human (well, Kree) Captain Mar-Vell.
Hero_guy
09/23/2008, 16:43
Superman. Not necessarily the chase ones. The JL rare is pretty decent. In any case, I can say that Illuminati is a pretty tough team to beat. Strange, Fantastic and Iron Man. I played against that team before in 400pts, and it did pretty well. I won the match, but it definately took alot of concentration and planning to beat it.
I'd suggest that you get either a Quintessence, or Power Cosmic fig as your main attacker. Either that or go with a keyword that fits Rip Hunter also so you can get his semi-fortitude.
Master Vision
09/23/2008, 16:50
Wild Card Mystic from Blue Devil Leave Cosmic Boy Phantom Girl and Saturn Girl hanging around BD Charge your big hitters have Saturn Girl give a little support CB tking
100-LS007 Young Superman
130-LS006 Ultra Boy
70-LS003 Cosmic Boy
60-LS002 Saturn Girl
100-CD045 Blue Devil
40-LS005 Phantom Girl
500
Eventually I will post a different kind of team. We been playing a short time and this combo been working LofS and Blue Devil
simonexus
09/23/2008, 16:52
I really like Green Scar. And the Ultimate Hulk from Ultimates is a monster too, and Ultimate Thor. And Supernova has a nice choice of Vet Thor/Hyperion/Silver Surfer, U Thanos and LE Dr. Don Blake. KC Superman (the original one!) is very good too.
Ult. Hulk is the only non-colossal that has 6 damage on the dial (along with Super Strength and 13 Attack), but Power Cosmics have the advantage of not taking push damage and being immune to Outwit, which would be important in a game without feats.
I was also considering a power cosmic/quintessence character for the same reason. It's good to see that I have almost all of the figures mentioned. I considered Green Scar, but with no range or defense against outwit, I feel that he could be taken down much too quickly!
TitanThanos
09/23/2008, 17:07
SOD Superman
CR Darkseid
HT Desaad
there you go
if you have the points, Space Phantom too
simonexus
09/23/2008, 17:09
For Quintessence I can also strongly recommend The Spectre from Crisis, if you have him. This guy is really powerful (and probably the best regular Q figure so far).
My only fear with using The Spectre is that he's a giant, and therefore will get dominated at range while he's in base combat. I suppose I'd just have to hit them hard and fast...
To TitanThanos,
What is SOD Superman? I don't think I have that piece...
I have all three of the FF LE's so far as well, but I don't think any of them really suit my purposes, except maybe Reed for a super-outwit.
TitanThanos
09/23/2008, 17:40
My only fear with using The Spectre is that he's a giant, and therefore will get dominated at range while he's in base combat. I suppose I'd just have to hit them hard and fast...
To TitanThanos,
What is SOD Superman? I don't think I have that piece...
I have all three of the FF LE's so far as well, but I don't think any of them really suit my purposes, except maybe Reed for a super-outwit.
SOD Superman is the Unique Superman from Cosmic Justice. Take a look at him in the units section, he's pretty rugged.
I actually ran that team in a three way last time I played, and it devastated everything in its path...
Wow. That thing is a monster with Darkseid. I had completely forgotten that piece existed. I'm going to look into getting my hands on one of those bad boys. :D
I think rather than a theme team I'm just going to use a stealthed probability controller. More re-rolls that way, and the + to roll doesn't matter much to me. :)
TitanThanos
09/23/2008, 19:07
Wow. That thing is a monster with Darkseid. I had completely forgotten that piece existed. I'm going to look into getting my hands on one of those bad boys. :D
I think rather than a theme team I'm just going to use a stealthed probability controller. More re-rolls that way, and the + to roll doesn't matter much to me. :)
Might I suggest V Domino (M&M) or V Scarlet Witch?
Repulsor rage
09/23/2008, 19:14
if you want theme goodness Avengers always work well SI Namor SN vet Thor with good prob with scarlet witch
BLACKHEART25
09/23/2008, 19:27
There are lots of great figures to build around. Thanos is a good candidate. Team him with "You are needed" Harbringer (who has probability) and she can get him out of any nasty tie up piece that wants to hold him there.
TK and Magog are a nice choice as well. Hes kinda cheap and VERY devastating. Demanding all kinds of attention on the field.
U Thor, R Invisible girl, 2 U-men and a E paramedic. Perfect to push Thor like crazy and Invisible woman helps out his #### defense. Heal as needed with Paramedic. Plenty of room for swarm characters!!
Depends on what you like really. Are you a in your face character or a sit back and shooter? Either way be sure to add lockjaw to whatever team you decide....Hes THE tie-up piece of the century and he can easily get out for healing if the opposing main attacker doesn't kill him.
simonexus
09/23/2008, 19:38
In defense of The Spectre, he does have a lot of Steal Energy and Regeneration combined with high starting Defense and Impervious (and 10 Movement+Charge and Quintessence which means a lot of mobility), so if he's not caught flat-footed and shot to pieces in 1 turn, he should last quite a long time. More so, his Regen clicks also have Poison on them, so even without Auto. Regen he can still do damage and heal in the same round - and of course he has 10 Range himself, which is not too shabby! Still, it would be a toss between him and a Vet Thor from Supernova for me.
Son of Darkseid Superman is very powerful in close combat, but he's easy to hit and has to reach the enemy and engage them, since he has no range himself. It's true that he can hit hard and not miss for the majority of the dial, but he faces the same problem as Spectre, only with lower Defense, no healing, no range and no pushing - and of course he can be Outwitted. If you can keep him out of enemy's sight long enough for him to base something (which would be on the other hand easier than with Spectre, but he would still move only about half as fast), that's great, but otherwise it can be tricky.
That said, him, Darkseid and Desaad sound like a cool team that I'd play just for the fun of it.:laugh:
falldowndrunk
09/23/2008, 20:35
No love for Emperor Joker? He's a common, and can just be beastly. Other good figs are SI Doom, and the Darkseid from Crisis.
We ran a big team yesterday, and I used Darksied to Omega Effect my opponents best piece, using the move him to any square within line of site, and dropped em right next to Maestro. Pretty funny really....
larthosgrr8
09/23/2008, 20:49
i'd say look at mid ranged fis that are nasty. le nova from sn and gamorra are cheaper than ms marvel. gengrafted brain, vet ray, and ms marvel are all cheap hhs figs. you can always go with rookie shazam too.
i think i'm running mystic doom, three vet doombots and annihilus for a ruler/armor/we love green team. by the time everyone has taken out the doombots, doom and annihilus will have taken them out or beaten them up pretty good.
Pepsirox08
09/23/2008, 20:51
VET ICON SUPES along with rip hunter and some other outwitters...
This is my current build to test later this week:
Ultimate Thor
V Ultimate Hawkeye
R Scarlet Witch (Fantastic Forces)
Bucky
R Invisible Girl (Clobberin' Time)
V Deadpool
Ghost Widow
What do you guys think?
kirizilin
09/24/2008, 08:48
I recommend V icons Superman, sees through stealth and is just a beat stick.
Pepsirox08
09/24/2008, 10:24
This is my current build to test later this week:
Ultimate Thor
V Ultimate Hawkeye
R Scarlet Witch (Fantastic Forces)
Bucky
R Invisible Girl (Clobberin' Time)
V Deadpool
Ghost Widow
What do you guys think?
Vet Deadpool, mad rep to u!!
kirizilin
09/24/2008, 11:01
Run Sinestro Corps Anti-Monitor with 9 R Con Artists!
499 points!!!
Pepsirox08
09/24/2008, 11:05
oh god, that my fear, to see a team with dr. strange ahab and a bunch of con artists...
Vet Deadpool, mad rep to u!!
Thank you my good man, I use him not only for love of the character, but because I've had amazing success with him! Stealth, perplex, blades, and six range? With mid-dial phasing and then regen? YES PLEASE. And it's Deadpool?? One of my all time favorite pieces!
imaleximsweet
09/25/2008, 01:40
i too am going to enter a tournament where it is 500 no cardboard
question:
is your tourny one on one?
There are many many viable bricks or tentpoles available out there. It's all a question of playing style as to which one you go with. U Thor is a good pick. I've personally had great success with Specter in 400pts games. Almost all the Superman post Unleashed and up are great picks (I would stay away from the 1mil one ...), Marvel has a bunch of good ones in Super Nova (V Hyperion, Thor, Surfer, Thanos... heck even Brick Doom), the Heralds and Ares in Avengers, M&M had Green Scar and Apoc. There are dozens to choose from all of which can have success.
Good luck.
AdamWarlock
09/25/2008, 10:44
Gamora. Heh.
Pepsirox08
09/25/2008, 13:42
Thank you my good man, I use him not only for love of the character, but because I've had amazing success with him! Stealth, perplex, blades, and six range? With mid-dial phasing and then regen? YES PLEASE. And it's Deadpool?? One of my all time favorite pieces!
Deadpool is also a favorite character of mine because he always messes with wolverine! his dial is awesome and so is his sculpt! also he was the first LE i ever pulled so he is just incredibly good!!
Hmmmmmmm.
I think Ultimate Thor is good. Black Adam is okay, but you want someone with range I think. Skrull Ms Marvel would also be good with some appropriate backup, as would the Human (well, Kree) Captain Mar-Vell.
Who would you recommend as backup for Captain Mar-vell?
kirizilin
09/26/2008, 12:18
Personally, i think that you should run someone with hypersonic speed, and preferably some range.
i too am going to enter a tournament where it is 500 no cardboard
question:
is your tourny one on one?
Yes it is, is yours?
Ok my final team is this:
U Thor
Ghost Widow
U Nick Fury (Sinister)
V Deadpool
E Multiple Man
Scarlet Witch (haven't decided on SR or R from FF)
R Invisible Girl (Clobbering Time)
I seriously rocked in some test games.
I would go for the SR. Flight (free move) and Barrier are golden on a 35 pts support character.
My only qualm is that she is a big target whereas the Stealth one you really have to work for, and it puts you in all kinds of line of sight!
I still think I will use the SR though! Thanks!
jackstar7
09/29/2008, 13:41
Here's what I'm thinking right now:
Mystical Keyword
V Black Adam 150
Dr Strange 149
V Azrael 65
V Jinx 54
E Ragman 47
SR Scarlet Witch 35
Total: 500pts
The team can be moved into position on Turn 1 and make crazy from there. 2 Probs + Theme should hopefully make enough trouble for any Supes.
My setup would be something like Jinx-Az-Rags in front of BA-DrS-SW. At least in theory.
Anyone got the ways this fails terribly? I'm certain it can be dismantled... but right now I'm kinda enamored of it, so I'm not seeing any inherent weakness.
Here's what I'm thinking right now:
Mystical Keyword
V Black Adam 150
Dr Strange 149
V Azrael 65
V Jinx 54
E Ragman 47
SR Scarlet Witch 35
Total: 500pts
The team can be moved into position on Turn 1 and make crazy from there. 2 Probs + Theme should hopefully make enough trouble for any Supes.
My setup would be something like Jinx-Az-Rags in front of BA-DrS-SW. At least in theory.
Anyone got the ways this fails terribly? I'm certain it can be dismantled... but right now I'm kinda enamored of it, so I'm not seeing any inherent weakness.
E-2 Supes plus x2 rookie mandroids with 2 rookie destinies and the cheapest Psychic Blast with a decent attack you can find.
Superman 317
Mandroid 28
Mandroid 28
Destiny 20
Destiny 20
Enchantress 75 (Legacy) or Deathlok 72
I'd probably roll Deathlok and then the cheapest up front Perplex i could get. I just like making Kal-L teams...lol.
jackstar7
09/29/2008, 14:13
E-2 Supes plus x2 rookie mandroids with 2 rookie destinies and the cheapest Psychic Blast with a decent attack you can find.
Superman 317
Mandroid 28
Mandroid 28
Destiny 20
Destiny 20
Enchantress 75 (Legacy) or Deathlok 72
I'd probably roll Deathlok and then the cheapest up front Perplex i could get. I just like making Kal-L teams...lol.
Ah E-2 Kal... there's really little defense against him other than luck.
Ah E-2 Kal... there's really little defense against him other than luck.
Yeah...well, that and a little Psychic Blast to soften up 16 Defense Black Adam so that any attack Superman makes sticks, but I'm metagaming of course.
I think the team i made would be worse with like....x2 Namors or something...you could roll vet Namor and new Namor double TKed with objects ftw on virtually any brick that doesn't have Impervious by the time they attack.
In fact, instead of Deathlok and Psychic Blast, put in x2 Icons Starter Batmen...or x2 rookie Black Panthers...lol...i hate myself sometimes.
spike1138
09/29/2008, 14:35
I'm going with a Keyword (Infinity Watch) team:
Thanos (SN)
Adam Warlock (SI)
Gamora (SI)
I'll probably get out-actioned but whatever. If we're playing "Ben Grimm" rules, then I'm plopping Thanos in the middle of the map and daring my opponents to come get some. At least I'll have the satisfaction of playing a TEAM and not a HSS-abuse junk squad that was built after seeing what everyone else has brought to the venue.
I have to fight a team of Silver Surfer, Fabian Cortez, Skrull Ms. Marvel, and a TKer. It's going to be the most annoying fight ever. (Sigh)
At least U Thor can ignore Ms. Marvel's Stealth. And he'll have 18 defense at all times. I'll just have to hit her and Silver Surfer pretty hard from the beginning!
rollinsolo
10/01/2008, 15:16
HULK. You may not win but hey, it's Hulk!
EmeraldKnight4
10/03/2008, 12:09
I like the team, but may I make a suggestion? Maybe switching out V black adam and V jinx, then putting in R Shazam!, an R jinx, and an E question. This would give you more perplex and pc, including stealth for more protection, not counting E question could have a 20 defense next to Doc Strange. That's the team I was thinking, anyways. I really like your team though.
Here's what I'm thinking right now:
Mystical Keyword
V Black Adam 150
Dr Strange 149
V Azrael 65
V Jinx 54
E Ragman 47
SR Scarlet Witch 35
Total: 500pts
The team can be moved into position on Turn 1 and make crazy from there. 2 Probs + Theme should hopefully make enough trouble for any Supes.
My setup would be something like Jinx-Az-Rags in front of BA-DrS-SW. At least in theory.
Anyone got the ways this fails terribly? I'm certain it can be dismantled... but right now I'm kinda enamored of it, so I'm not seeing any inherent weakness.
Very few of these teams looks like "brick" teams, I think you meant "tentpole".
My advice is the same in either case: the best way to get value out of a brick/tentpole is to play two of them.
Players typically build teams to take down a single tentpole: one ranged attacker with 4+ damage, one outwit, etc. If you have TWO on your team, then opponents have to decide which foe to attack.
theflashisanascarfan
10/04/2008, 09:22
You should really go with a Superman. Any of them are good but I VERY highly reccomend The Man of Steel, or the JL Rare Superman.
You can't go wrong with Kal-el. He has the HSS, Impervious, Super Strength, Range, big damage, and both the pieces have a defense that goes up in the endgame.
Great stuff. Put OOTS Batman for Outwit and/or Sandman for Stealthed Probability Control and you're good to go. Oh, and put Flash out there, too for a HSS annoyance (well, that's what I do, anyway).
Superman is good if you're not using cardboard, because of his HSS. You can target an Outwitter for big damage with a heavy object, or hit an opponent in a dangerous spot and then move to somewhere safer with your leftover speed. I've always had great success with Superman. He can take a serious beating, too.
Very few of these teams looks like "brick" teams, I think you meant "tentpole".
My advice is the same in either case: the best way to get value out of a brick/tentpole is to play two of them.
Players typically build teams to take down a single tentpole: one ranged attacker with 4+ damage, one outwit, etc. If you have TWO on your team, then opponents have to decide which foe to attack.
Indeed!
I don't know who is suitable to pair with U Thor though. I considered just putting Thing on there to run back up.
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