Philippines Star Wars Minis thread.

[darkjacen]

Hi, since there is apparently a growing number of players interested in Star Wars Minis now in our 'lil community, i thought it appropriate that we have a thread made for discussions regarding star wars minis.

Right now there are only 3 available booster/expansions available to us:
Champions of the Force
Alliance & Empires
The force unleashed.

There is also a Battle of Hoth Set for those wanting to have a squad of imperial and rebel alliance figures.

I am unsure if we will be recieving any of the newer expansions such as Legacy of the Force and Knights of the Old republic, but we can hope for the best. Also the latest expansion will be out come november: Clone Wars. This will also have a starter set with 6 figures, a rulebook and a map. (Not like the revenge of the sith gameboard though.)

This is also an invitation to those players who also have Star Wars minis. Since we don't have an official playing group, we can start one ourselves.;)

[Insulares]

How useful is obi-wan and Han Solo of Hoth on a Rebel Squad?

[darkjacen]

Han Solo of Hoth is 33 points has Cunning Attack (+4 attack, +10 damage against characters that haven't been activated),double attack and Evade (when hit by a non-adjacent attack roll d20 with a save of 11 for no damage:grin:)
80 HP, 18 defense, 8 attack, 20 damage. Can potentially kill 2 standard fodder troopers.

If you'd compare that to say Han Solo on Tautaun, accurate shot, cunning attack, mobile attack, heal and speed. It makes the initial one seem a bit lacking. Honestly though it would depend on what else is in your squad. (Or throw that Han in a New Republic Squad with Jaina Solo in it:cheeky: gotta love affinity...)

Obi-wan from Rebel Storm is 38 points, has double attack, healing and lightsaber sweep. Defense may be a bit lower when compared to other versions that came out, but Obi-wan is playable and has a decent force rating. Unless you're talking about Obi-wan from Unleashed, then the answer is a definite yes. (Force renewal on a character that can heal sweet...)

[iron_cowboy]

whats the best expansion so far? im planning to buy this week.

[darkjacen]

Um...it's not what's the best Alvin, it's what's currently available.

Champions Of the Force contains many characters with force ratings, has more republic and Sith factions.

Alliance & Empires contains more Empire and Rebel Factions. If you're not to picky about the stuff you'll be getting go for i. Just don't expect many a lightsaber in your squad. (this expansion I think is the 30th anniversary expansion and has a different base)

Force Unleashed is based on the latest video game of Lucas Arts of the same name. It has Rebels and Imperials as well but also allows you to collect huge/big figures, hence the big boxes. (Note there's a difference between Empire and Imperial. It's just more evident with the Legacy of the force expansion)

With any luck NG will be ordering the next expansion coming november.:) But you'll have to choose between those expansions. Also some characters are from the Star Wars Expanded Universe and won't be easily recognizable if you just followed the movies.

[iron_cowboy]

whats the expansion with all uniques so as they say, i just dont know if i rnisread it. i think ill just buy champions of the force and then post my picks for trade.:)

[ticky2]

Hey Anton.

Thanks for starting this thread.

I'm glad to see SWM finally getting some lovin' ;)

[iron_cowboy]

anton,

what are your current figures as of today aside from the twins, and where can i buy a starter set? i used to ignore SW before, now ill take it a shot.

[Insulares]

Hey Anton.

Thanks for starting this thread.

I'm glad to see SWM finally getting some lovin' ;)


Hi Ticky - do you have any of the ancient jedi? (Old Republic, Sith -= including the troopers)? I'm a fan of the KotoR games kasi. :grin:

[darkjacen]

STAR WARS MINIS 101 A - Game Basics
This is for those fellow clixers who might be interested in playing if just for fun even. I'll be posting simple guides like this every now and then, hope it helps.

To start you'll need a D20 dice, some tokens to mark HP (or a pen and paper), a map (starter sets normally come with one)

I.Build a squad. Each squad contains figures from 1 faction. Factions can be : Rebel, Imperial, Empire, Yuuzhan Vong, Old Republic, Republic, Sith, Mandalorian, Fringe(can be included into any factions) etc.

So for example you can have a Separatist build of 100 points:
Darth Sidious, Dark lord of the sith 61
Super Battle Droid 10 x 2
Battle Droid Officer 9
Battle Droid 4 x 2
total: 98

II. Set up squad on the map.

III. Roll for intitiative (Higher player decides who goes first.)
* Games are played in rounds, each round is played until players can no longer activate any character.

IV. game phase
- 2 activations per phase
- Activations
A. Move (regular move of 12 or 6 and attack or attack and 6 move)
B. Attacks can be against adjacent characters or line of sight/ranged
* When determining line of sight, if it crosses low objects (green bordered terrain) target gets +4 to defense. Also a character with cover can't be the target of an enemy unless it is the closest enemy.

V. Force points
Some characters have force ratings. Normally shown as Force 1 etc...You can use force points to either reroll a bad roll (Ala Probability Control) or too increase your move by +2. Or use it on a force power.
Ex.
General Grievous, Supreme Commander has a force rating of 1. You can
use it to increase your move to 14 or 8 squares and attack/vice versa.

You can only use force points on your own turn/phase.
VI. Roll for initiative.
When all characters have been activated, both players roll for intiative once again to start a new round.

Hope this helps. Next time we'll tackle force powers:grin:

[clixboy]

SW minis plays exactly like DnD.. and has the same fun game mechanic as well (basically sabay sila nag adapt ng new rule set)

[darkjacen]

Yup. They use practically the same game mechanics.;) Fun is the right word for it.

Oh yeah here're a few sneak peaks from the new expansion coming out sometime next month.

Yoda on Kybuck and General Grievous Droid Army Commander (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/CWpreview1)
ARC Trooper Sniper (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/CWpreview2)
Trandoshan Scanvenger and Quarren Isolationist (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/CloneWarspreview3)

Yoda on Kybuck looks like fun:cheeky:

[Insulares]

Antonn, May retirement of figs ba dito?

[ticky2]

Hi Ticky - do you have any of the ancient jedi? (Old Republic, Sith -= including the troopers)? I'm a fan of the KotoR games kasi. :grin:


Hey Javi,

Only have two named ones (Bastila Shan and some Sith). But have a couple of generic sith and old republic jedis and the troops. I'll bring them one time so you can check them out :)

[ticky2]

I'm not sure if the other players will agree, but one thing I like about star wars is its balance. Thanks to the combined fire mechanic and commander effects, a squad of generic troops (especially if accompanied by a commander or two) can hold its own against a lone powerful jedi.

[iron_cowboy]

ticky,

can you post your SW thread here and their prices.

thanks.

[darkjacen]

Antonn, May retirement of figs ba dito?

As of what i know, walang retirement sa SWM.:)

I'm not sure if the other players will agree, but one thing I like about star wars is its balance. Thanks to the combined fire mechanic and commander effects, a squad of generic troops (especially if accompanied by a commander or two) can hold its own against a lone powerful jedi.

I agree. Rebel troopers can swarm and overpower Republic era Jedi. Combined fire is fun, very useful against commanders and high defense opponents.:grin:

Which in a way is kinda true, you can overwhelm characters/Heros. There is no super character in the game. It boils down to battlefield tactics.;) I'll take a squad of republic commandos over a single Jedi/Sith anyday.

anton,

what are your current figures as of today aside from the twins, and where can i buy a starter set? i used to ignore SW before, now ill take it a shot.

Compared to what Joel and Nicky have, i a modest collection of republic and NJO era squads. No point in posting what i have since i got no extras... As to your question on Starter sets, i don't know if there are any available now but NG might order more stocks. So be hopeful, with any luck they'll have the recent starters and not just the ROTS one.

[ticky2]

ticky,

can you post your SW thread here and their prices.

thanks.


Here's my initial list of SWMinis for sale

Ki-Adi Mundi R Clone Strike P400
Saesee Tinn R Clone Strike P400
Wat Tambor R Revenge of the Sith P300
Stass Allie R Revenge of the Sith P400
R2D2 R Rebel Storm P400

Sith Lot P400

includes:
4x Sith Trooper C Champions of the Force (2x of each variant)
Sith Trooper Commander U Champions of the Force
Dark Jedi U Champions of the Force
Dark Side Enforcer U Champions of the Force

PM or text me if you're interested 09175332160 :)

[Insulares]

Here's my initial list of SWMinis for sale

Ki-Adi Mundi R Clone Strike P400
Saesee Tinn R Clone Strike P400
Wat Tambor R Revenge of the Sith P300
Stass Allie R Revenge of the Sith P400
R2D2 R Rebel Storm P400

Sith Lot P400

includes:
4x Sith Trooper C Champions of the Force (2x of each variant)
Sith Trooper Commander U Champions of the Force
Dark Jedi U Champions of the Force
Dark Side Enforcer U Champions of the Force

PM or text me if you're interested 09175332160 :)


Only have two named ones (Bastila Shan and some Sith). But have a couple of generic sith and old republic jedis and the troops. I'll bring them one time so you can check them out


I'm interested in your sith lot. As for the named jedi/sith, including Bastila - I think we should meet up. I can trade you Heroclix stuff also.

[ticky2]

I'm interested in your sith lot. As for the named jedi/sith, including Bastila - I think we should meet up. I can trade you Heroclix stuff also.

Hey. Ok. Sith Lot is reserved for you. LEt's just talk about bastila when we meet up. Btw my named sith is Quic el doroma or something. VR from Champions of the Force :)

[darkjacen]

Nice, republic era Jedi masters.

Nicky, i sent you a PM.

[Sekreth]

Wow. Interest in Star Wars Miniatures. I had hoped that NG would support this game more since I'm interested in the KOTOR expansion.

I'm looking for Count Dooku from Clone Strike if anyone has one.

Cheers guys.

[darkjacen]

Star Wars Minis 101 B
This is part 2 of SWM 101. I'll focus this time on the ff:
Attack -Critical Hits and Critical Misses
-Combined Fire
- Attacks of opportunity
Replaces Attack
Force Powers

I. Attack - Critical Hits and Critical Misses
A d20 roll of 20 is considered a critical hit. On a critical hit the character automatically deals double (2x) damage to the target. However a Droid character/target ignores the effects of the critical hit. Droids are considered immune for the purposes of a critical hit and do not recieve 2x damage.

A d20 roll of 1 is considered a critical miss. On a critical miss the character automatically misses the target, even if the attacking character needs only a 1 to hit the target.

II. Attack - Combined Fire
A character can combine fire with other friendly characters to increase the attack value for one attack.
- The character(s) that will combine fire must have a line of sight to the target
- Characters with Melee attack or those that deal 0 damage cannot give or benefit from combined fire.

To combine fire, activate the chosen character. This will give a +4 attack bonus for that attack, for each character activated in this manner. If the character has a special ability that allows it to attack more than once per turn you can use combined fire with different allies for the succeeding attacks.

III. Attack - Attacks of Opportunity
An attack of Opportunity is triggered when an enemy character moves OUT OF A SQUARE adjacent to a character.
-Attacks of opportunity are optional
-there is no limit to the number of attacks of opportunity a character can make per turn BUT a character can only make one (1) attack of opportunity per a given characters turn.
-you cannot combine fire for an attack of opportunity

ex.1 A clone trooper moves away from General Grievous, supreme commander. General grievous can make an attack of opportunity. Although general grievous has the special ability melee attack: double attack, general grievous can only make 1 AOP against the clone trooper.

ex. 2 A Yuuzhan Vong warrior moves past an elite rebel trooper. It becomes adjacent to the rebel trooper and moves out of the square adjacent to the rebel trooper. Tha rebel trooper may make one (1) attack of opportunity against that Yuuzhan Vong Warrior.

IV. Replaces attack
Some characters have special abilities that say "replaces attacks". A character can use the special ability instead of making regular attacks.

ex. Grenades (Replaces attacks: range 6; 10 damage to target and to each character adjacent to that target, save 11)


V. Force powers
Some characters have a force rating denoted by Force X, where x = the number of force points
ex. Force 5, the character has 5 force points

A force point may be used to increase speed by +2 or to reroll a bad dice roll.
Force points may be used only once per turn. (Unless otherwise stated on the character card)

Ex.
Force 4
Lightsaber Deflect (Force 1: When hit by a nonmelee attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11)

To use Lightsaber deflect the character spends 1 force point. After using the power, that character now only has 3 force points.

Ex. 2
Force 3
Sith Lightning 30 (Force 2 Replaces attacks range 6: 30 damage)

The character can spend 2 force points and deal 30 damage to a target. The character can move 6 before or 6 after using the force power (It replaces the attack of the usual move attack or attack move action)

[stevenrogers]

SW Minis Wants:
- Siths!!!!

Please trade me your siths guys...I currently bought a couple of boosters and got Ulic Qel-Droma and a Dark Jedi Master. They will lead my Sith team to victory!! :cheeky:
Btw, Javi...you collecting Sith factions too? :knockedou

[Insulares]

Hi cons - I'm a fan of "knights of the old republic" so I like ancient jedi. Particularly sith. i already have massassi mutants, sith troopers, and will be getting others.

[darkjacen]

Sith faction has pretty good stuff but we'll need to get KOTOR first for it to be competitive enough. The KOTOR expansion has a lot of old republic and sith units.

Check the KOTOR units listing on this website

Star Wars Minis Database (http://www.wizards.com/swminis/swminis_db.asp)

[clixboy]

Sith Sith more Sith!!!

Just got sidius and bane.... but I was aiming for a general windu (asa pa ako!)

[darkjacen]

Sith Sith more Sith!!!

Just got sidius and bane.... but I was aiming for a general windu (asa pa ako!)

Sidious is Separatist faction. Sad to say you can't use him in a Sith faction squad...:ermm:

[stevenrogers]

O pat, hindi mo pala magagamit si Darth Sidious kayat bitawan mo na yang Darth Bane mo sa kin kase Sith Faction ang bubuuhin ko. Javi, trade me your Siths din :p

Guys, ano ba ang most favorable Faction na ginagamit nyo sa game? Anton i think loves the rebel team, Pat the Empire ata.
...share us din yung figs nyo na pride and joy. Si Joel ata ang favorite nya sa isang damakmak na Jedis nya eh si Luke Skyperry? ;)

[darkjacen]

Guys, ano ba ang most favorable Faction na ginagamit nyo sa game? Anton i think loves the rebel team, Pat the Empire ata.
...share us din yung figs nyo na pride and joy. Si Joel ata ang favorite nya sa isang damakmak na Jedis nya eh si Luke Skyperry? ;)

Honestly? I prefer the republic faction. Ganda kasing tignan yung mga clones in action. That and prequel movie jedi andun. Okay sana rebels but for some reason ayaw ko gumawa ng rebellion era squads...:laugh:

But if it's about factions with the most number of available figures it's either rebel or Empire. Yung Sith Marami na rin kaso most good ones are hard to get...:ermm: And ang mahal ng point cost nila.

In this game it isn't about the heroes of the factions duking it out. Kahit si General Windu can be defeated by a Storm trooper squad with just the right commander effects. It's more strategy than brute power.;)

Right now my favorite factions are Republic and New Republic. (That and kasi maraming force users open sa factions na iyon.:grin:)

[clixboy]

Aha well I just bought them to collect me some jedis.. maganda sculpt ng mga jedis kasi haha and of course I want imperial troops and clone troops! haha

[clixboy]

For Trade:

Darth Bane
Darth Sidius

Wants:

General Windu
Darth Vader Champion of the force

[darkjacen]

Wants:
General Windu
Darth Vader Champion of the force

Pat, Rare lang si General Windu from COTF. Funny thing is rare siya but mahirap makakuha...good luck with that. Most of those who have him won't let go of him for sith lords...:ermm:

[Insulares]

SW Minis Wants:
- Siths!!!!

Please trade me your siths guys...I currently bought a couple of boosters and got Ulic Qel-Droma and a Dark Jedi Master. They will lead my Sith team to victory!! :cheeky:
Btw, Javi...you collecting Sith factions too? :knockedou

I'm a fan of the games: "Knights of the Old Republic" and "Knights of the Old Republic 2" also known as KotoR. That's why I'm collecting the figures from the game, who are the Old Republic Jedi.

I'm also collecting the Ancient Sith who appeared in, or were mentioned in KotoR, like Darth Nihilus. Darth Revan is also one of my wants since your character in KotoR is Darth Revan. That's the great plot twist in the game. :grin:

[darkjacen]

Guys, some clarifications lang about certain special abilities.

Melee Attack: A character with melee attack can only attack adjacent opponents. If it is not printed on the card and hasn't been errata-ed then you can do range attacks as well.

Double Attack/Triple Attack/Quadruple Attack: To use the extra attacks granted by these abilities, a prerequisite is for the character NOT TO MOVE. You cannot move 6 squares and declare quadruple attack. It simply will not work. This is not limited to only melee characters. These abilities DO NOT WORK WITH ATTACKS OF OPPORTUNITY.

Twin Attack: Characters with Twin attack can attack the same target more an additional time.

Ex. Mariss Brood has Double Attack:Twin Attack. She can move up to 6 squares then attack the same target twice (2) or stay put and attack 1 target 4 times or two targets 2 times. Since she has lightsaber assault she could attack the same target 4 times. This is not quadruple attack, only the effects of her twin attack special ability and a Lightsaber assault working hand in hand.;)

P.S. Don't throw the check list included in boosters (Well at least keep one) It has explanations for powers released in a particular expansion.;)

[ticky2]

Hey Boys!

You guys interested in playing SWMinis this Saturday? We can play in NG Galle right after Basketball Clix. I'll be bringing my stuff. Copied a nice Imperial Squad from swshoebox.com that's supposed to be really wicked :)

[clixboy]

Hehe pwede! I'll bring my stuff as well although limited to alliance & empire lang units ko :)

[blacknife]

Sali din ako sa freeplay ng SWM this saturday! :)
Ilang points yung warband na gagamitin?
Try ko all fringe na warband ;)

[darkjacen]

Sali din ako sa freeplay ng SWM this saturday! :)
Ilang points yung warband na gagamitin?
Try ko all fringe na warband ;)

Usual squad builds can range from 100, 150 and 200 points. If we're going to get used to tournament builds i suggest you guys use those squad builds. Hehe you're too used to DnD hindi warband yung term sa SWM,:)

Nicky, i just realized, if you got lord vader from bounty hunters...he's 71 points of dark side chaos. Lakas pala niya. On his lightsaber sweep, his twin attack would kick in allowing him to attack each adjacent character twice. Now that's Vader. Not like the other versions that came out. Wow...:grin: And he's got a plethora of other force powers that would be just as fun to combo. Master of the force, force leap,sith rage....haha

I wish i could go, but siguro all i can do is drop by...busy kasi with work:ermm:

[stevenrogers]

My Siths are ready :devious:

[darkjacen]

Erratas & Clarification as of August 2008.;)

Light Spirit
This character can move through enemy characters, and enemy characters can move through it, as long as no character ends its move in the same space as another character. This character does not count as the nearest enemy, and does not count as adjacent to other characters. This character is not affected by commander effects.

Hologram
This character can move through enemy characters, and enemy characters can move through it, as long as no character ends its move in the same space as another character. This character does not count as the nearest enemy, and does not count as adjacent to other characters. This character is not affected by commander effects.

"Characters named/whose name contains . . ."
These effects also apply to characters with a special ability having the specified name. For example, the Ugnaught Boss (The Force Unleashed, Fringe 59/60) grants his commander effect to allies with the Ugnaught special ability (such as the Uggernaut).

Pits
The rules for pits have been updated to take into account involuntary movement effects from various "unleashed" Force powers, such as Force Push. Add the following text to the rulebook entry:

"If a character is involuntarily moved onto a pit square, stop its movement in the nearest square adjacent to the pit and make a save of 11. On a successful save, the character remains adjacent to the pit. On a failure, it is defeated. Characters with abilities that allow them to enter pit squares (such Flight) make a save of 6 instead."



AT-AT Imperial Walker

AT-AT Imperial Walker (Imperial, 1/1)
Heavy Laser Cannon (1 activation: Make 2 attacks, Attack +6. On a hit, 60 damage to target; each character adjacent to that target takes 20 damage, save 11. On a miss, 20 damage to the target, save 11; each character adjacent to that target takes 20 damage, save 11.)



Clone Strike Booster Pack
ARC Trooper (Republic, 4/60)
Add the following:
Order 66

Darth Sidious (Separatist, 36/60)
Add the following after Unique:
(Counts as Emperor Palpatine)

General Kenobi (Republic, 12/60)
Add the following after Unique:
(Counts as Obi-Wan Kenobi)


Revenge of the Sith Booster Pack
Yoda, Jedi Master (Republic, 24/60)
Add the following to Force Valor, immediately following Force 2:
replaces attacks

Dark Side Adept (Imperial, 57/60) Add the following:
Force Powers
Force 2

Darth Tyranus (Separatist, 29/60)
Add the following after Unique:
(Counts as Count Dooku)


Universe Booster Pack
ASP-7 (Fringe, 14/60)
Add the following:
Droid (Immune to critical hits; not subject to commander effects)

Grand Admiral Thrawn (Imperial, 38/60)
The two allies that can be switched with his commander ability must have the same base size; for example, two Huge characters can switch position, but not one Large and one Huge character.



Bounty Hunters Booster Pack
ISP Speeder (Republic, 1/60)
Add the following:
Order 66

Komari Vosa (Fringe, 39/60)
Add the following:
Melee Attack



The Force Unleashed Booster Pack
Kazdan Paratus (Republic, 2/60)
Add the following at the beginning of the rules text for Surprise Move:
Force 1,

Caamasi Noble (Fringe, 48/60)
This character's stat card incorrectly identifies it as belonging to the Rebel faction. It is Fringe, as stated in the checklist and on the miniature's base.

Maris Brood (Fringe, 53/60)
Force Powers is mislabeled as Special Abilities. In addition, the range of Force Push 2 should be 6, not 60.

Force Push 2: This Force power should specify a target, as stated on the stat cards. The rules insert incorrectly omits the word "target."



Legacy of the Force Booster Pack
Darth Krayt (Sith, 5/60)
Add the following:
Melee Attack

Darth Tyranus (Separatist, 29/60)
Add the following after Unique:
(Counts as Count Dooku)

Virulent Poison Dart
Instead of taking its normal turn, this character can target an enemy up to 6 squares away. This follows all the usual rules for choosing a target. The target takes 40 points of damage. The target can avoid the damage with a save of 16. Using this special ability is not an attack and does not require an attack roll.



Knights of the Old Republic Booster Pack
Master Lucien Draay (Old Republic, 5/60)
Add a 1 after Force Renewal, making it Force Renewal 1

Mandalorian Marauder (Mandalorian, 58/60)
Change Defense from 8 to 18

[clixboy]

haaaaay.... buti nalang nakabili nako ng sw minis... basically wizards just kicked the nuts out of dnd skirmish play....

[darkjacen]

haaaaay.... buti nalang nakabili nako ng sw minis... basically wizards just kicked the nuts out of dnd skirmish play....

Umm... i was going to say this when clone wars arrived but i might as well. There's a new initiative rule for SWM, it's yet to take in effect, i suspect when Clone wars is released next friday (US).

The first player for a skirmish now only gets 1 activation for the first phase/turn of the round. It was done to avoid dealing massive amounts of damage to the opponent. It's been on the WOTC SWM forums, i was just waiting for the right time. (Pat kasi oh...:laugh:)

I'll also be posting additional stuff within the week.

[darkjacen]

For you guys who like the Sith Faction here's a fun piece to look forward to especially for the older sith units.

Darth Sidious Hologram and Human Soldier of fortune (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/CloneWarspreview4)

I'm referring to Darth Sidious.He's 11 points has 20 defense, 20 Hp not attack or damage but he's got a fun commander effect to exploit.

Commander Effect: Allied characters within 6 squares gain Force Renewal 1.

So your sith troopers/massasi mutants etc can all get 1 force every time they activate. While they don't have Force powers to spend it on, you could use it to reroll or to move an extra +2 squares.

They should do a Yoda Version of this one:cheeky: Except sana renewal 3. Hahahaha

[clixboy]

played a round of sw minis kanina, and it was fun... (at the expense of conrad hahaa)

hey nicky if ever bibitawan mo si chewy rebel hero lmk :) pede ko bilhin or tradan ng clix or other sw figs if ever thanks :)

[darkjacen]

played a round of sw minis kanina, and it was fun... (at the expense of conrad hahaa)

Rebel squad?:grin:

[clixboy]

oh yeah! played luke champion of the force and rebel commandos! that commander effect is sick! forces your opponent to come at you not to mention I killed them republic commandos with grenades! (that was fun) and luke whooped qui gons arse! haha

use the force (crit hit) combo with flurry attack and the second attack (from double attack) for a total of 3 attacks and a maximum potential of 80 damage! haha

but seriously cons has a swarm of sith troopers now ready and waiting!! May exar kun na cya a deadly sith!!

For those interested buying the hoth action pack is really worth it! (kahit 3k cya) you get a very very deadly vader in that set, tons of rares in the action pack luke and han on tauntaun, that liea commander... hoth atgar cannon... imperial e-web cannon.... not to mention AT-ST and a rebel snowspeeder, maps and the rulebook!

[darkjacen]

btw guys, stealth in SWM isn't like stealth in clix.

Stealth: If a character has cover, he does not count as the nearest enemy for an attacker more than 6 squares away.

Although from the WOTC site: "Essentially, Stealth allows you to attack without being attacked in return -- a squad full of characters with Stealth could be very difficult to beat if they carefully find cover every round and always keep their distance. However, a character with Accurate Shot can still target an enemy with Stealth who is more than 6 squares away."

Accurate Shot: Can attack an enemy with cover even if it's not the nearest enemy.

Oh and again, Double/Triple/quadruple attack only grants the additional attacks IF the charater doesn't move. You cannot move 6 squares and then use the additional attacks granted by the special ability.;)

So Pat, your luke can do a maximum 80 damage, including double attack. Other wise you can only do 60. And it can't be comboed with double attack if you move. Luke has to be stationary.

Oh and i'd hate to say it cons, but you probably got a taste of what's called "super stealth". I have got to get me a Nom Anor....

[darkjacen]

Here's some additional news.

For future expansions, including Clone Wars (Oct-Nov 2008), Imperial Entanglements (Feb 2009) and Jedi Academy (June 2009), the usual 60 pcs per set will be trimmed down to 40. As released in the Gencon 2008 announcements.

Imperial Entanglements will focus on Episodes V, VI and characters from the expanded universe of that time.

Jei Academy will cover Jedi from all eras, masters padwans, Knights etc (Haha parang COTF all over again...maybe with any luck they'll add Kyp Durron, Kam and Tione Solusar, and Anakin Solo:cheeky:)

That ought to make it easier to get stuff from the newer expansions. I can't wait for next year. :grin:

[clixboy]

yup anton 80dmg nga, not bad for a 49 pt figure not to mention rebel swarms work well... mukhang promising ang sw minis next year ah, unlike the other gameline (peste).

[Insulares]

saw the post na on the DnD thread - sayang, it looked like a nice game.

[Insulares]

Point of clarification:

In SWM, if the force power says replace attacks or replace turn then you either use it in place of the attack after moving (replace attack) or using the power takes up your whole turn. Right?

If the force power does not say any of the above, is it like a free action? Can you use it and still act during your turn?

[haroldsoon]

Actually, nageenjoy din ako with SWM.. hehe I have been playing with Joel's Imperial army for several games now.. ang ayaw ko lang sa kanya yung unlimited range (or nearest) kasi on an open map, I don't even need to leave the starting area to deal damage.. Yun lang naman but otherwise, masaya rin!

[clixboy]

yes, if a certain power does not indicate that it replaces anything then you can use it in conjunction with either movement/ attack.

[clixboy]

harold may solusyon naman dyan e... actually almost all maps have hiding places :)

nagkataon cguro ung map na gamit nyo paulit ulit hehe

there is also the issue of stealth and certain units which cannot be targeted. When the clone wars set comes maraming starter na magiging availbale so I encourage those na gusto ag sw minis to come join when you can. Tournies will begin pag dating ng clone wars set. May prize support din at mga map give aways....

[darkjacen]

harold may solusyon naman dyan e... actually almost all maps have hiding places :)

nagkataon cguro ung map na gamit nyo paulit ulit hehe

there is also the issue of stealth and certain units which cannot be targeted. When the clone wars set comes maraming starter na magiging availbale so I encourage those na gusto ag sw minis to come join when you can. Tournies will begin pag dating ng clone wars set. May prize support din at mga map give aways....

Yes Pat, Boyet's informed me of that as well. ;) Hehe full support na dito ah! What happened sa DnD? Is it already dead?:noid:

Javi, It depends on the force power in question. Let's say your using Sith rage (yeah i know...) You spend 1 force point and then gain it's bonus of +10 damage to all attacks made by that character this turn. So you could move and attack with a +10 damage.

Other powers have a more defensive nature, like force defense, lightsaber riposte, lightsaber block and reflect. Most of these powers that react to attacks or special abilities will only trigger when you would ordinarily take damage.

But generally speaking, if the stat card doesn't say anything, it will either take effect during your turn (As a "free action of sorts") and could be used in conjunction with a special ability or during your opponent's turn to prevent damage/special abilities or force powers. (That's why i said it depends on the force power;))

[stevenrogers]

Yeah, SW is fun...but Dnd aint dead yet pa nman Anton...like MW, it will live on while the players support the game. It has an RPG side too so Im thinking of maybe joining in too.;)

Anyway, SW is fun too... although Qui gon jins team really sucks as joel literally wiped our jedi ### off with his blasted rebel forces(besides suffering defeat at Pats hands last sat).
But we drew first blood naman with my rebel forces led by Han Solo on Tauntaun and Princess Lea against his Darth Maul led team. My sith team packs a wallop to as we ambushed Nickys Old Republic with a miraculous win last sat also...

Anyway, heres my shameless plug:

For Sale or Trade
- Darth Vader from Alliance and Empire
- Han Solo on Tauntaun
- AT ST


Believe me folks these figs will kick your ###.. :rolleyes: ;)



____________________________________________
The Siths will Inherit the Universe!!! :eek:

[clixboy]

hoy cons bakit may AT-ST ka for sale ha!? hinoard mo nh!

Haha yes may support naman tyo from NG. And I might act as co-envoy as well...

[Pusher]

...but Dnd aint dead yet pa nman Anton...like MW, it will live on while the players support the game. It has an RPG side too so Im thinking of maybe joining in too.;)
yup, di pa naman lumulubog ang aming battleship although it took some direct hits. and the rpg scene is more alive and kicking nowadays so i'm thinking of broadening my horizons toward that too :cool:

anyways, if you guys would like to support the DDM Guild being set up by the players to ensure the continuity of the DDM skirmish game please go here: http://www.ddmguild.com/index.php

but back on topic...in my best Yoda voice: sell the following SWM minis, thinking of, I am...:laugh:

Yoda, Jedi Master
Mace Windu, Jedi Master (VR)
Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi Master
Emperor Palpatine, Sith Lord (VR)

All from the Revenge of the Sith set. I've been away too long from this game (stopped at RotS, no plan of restarting) and i don't know if these guys have been superseded many times by more powerful duplicates of the same characters to be any worth competitively and price-wise :noid: some of you might want them for your personal collections though...;)

And kudos to darkjacen for drumming up the enthusiasm for SWM. may your players increase! :classic:

[clixboy]

Yep I would still play with my current collection though.. may investment pa ren ako sa Dnd kahit papaano....

But since sw minis will have proper support coming from our local store I bet it will rise to the occasion as the next best collectible mini (apart from clix)

[darkjacen]

but back on topic...in my best Yoda voice: sell the following SWM minis, thinking of, I am...:laugh:

Yoda, Jedi Master
Emperor Palpatine, Sith Lord (VR)


Interested in these two figures I am. PM'd you i have. ;)

[mickey mouse]

Added clarification to SWM:

If it says replace turn, you can't move, like the force power of master kota.

You can also move then do two attacks if you have Greater mobile ability.

Luke and yoda can move 12 squares then stun an enemy x3 (master of the force 3), because the stun is a special ability and doesn't say replace attack/turn.

Luke and yoda can also from starting square use force stun x3, move 6 squares then attack with his twin attack....

More power to darkjacen in continuing to promote SWM sa pinas....

[Pusher]

thanks to all those who signified their interest in my Jedis. I'll let you know if ever I finally decide to let them go.

As for the SWM competitive scene, one sure way to kill it is the lack of new stocks. Playing with the same characters can get boring. And boredom leads to anger... and anger leads to pain... and pain leads to... well you know the rest. NG has had problems with supply, with new sets arriving more than a few months late not uncommon. This is because of things that can or cannot be controlled. That's why we've resorted to other sources when they're available.

And nakapanood na ba kayo nung new Clone Wars series? episode 5 na so far and magaganda lahat visually and story-wise. Hopefully this series would generate enough interest to prolong the SWM skirmish game.

[mickey mouse]

Extra figs ko mga kabayan, pero December 28 pa uwi sa pinas at di ko alam magkano presyuhan nyo dyan???:confused:

Figs and cards are in mint condition, some figs are still bagged....

VR haves:
Boba Fett, mercenary commander
Boba Fett, mercenary
Darth Caedus (sold to darkjacen)
Darth Revan
Obi-Wan kenobi, padawan
Darth vader, unleashed x2 (x1 to stevenrogers)
Emperor Roan Fel (sold to clixboy)
Mira x2
Leia Organa, senator
Wolf Sazen
Maris Brood x2 (x1 to stevenrogers) (x1 to clixboy)
Luke Skywalker, force spirit x3 (x1 to stevenrogers)
Moff morlish veed x2

Rares haves:
Jarael x2 (x1 to stevenrogers) (x1 to blacknife)
Han Solo galactic hero x2
Jariah Syn
Bao-Dur x2
Zayne-Carrick x2
Visas Marr x2 (x1 to blacknife)
Deliah blue x3 (x1 to stevenrogers)
Deena Shan (sold to clixboy)
Captain Panaka
Luke Skywalker, hoth pilot unleashed (sold to clixboy)
Darth tyranus, LOTDS
Lumiya, the dark lady x2 (x1 to stevenrogers)
Canderous ordo (sold to stevenrogers)
Vadre's apprentice, redeemed x2 (x1 to stevenrogers) (x1 to dark jacen)
Kazdan Paratus x2
Master Kota (sold to stevenrogers)
Proxy
Mission Vao
Marasiah fel (sold to darkjacen)
K-3PO x3
Uggernaut x2
Wookie Hunter AT-ST (sold to clixboy)
Jagged fel x2
Juno Eclipse x2
Antares Draco (sold to darkjacen)
Zaalbar
Princess Leia of cloud city (sold to stevenrogers)
T3-M4 (sold to stevenrogers)
Luke Skywalker, legacy of the light side (sold to stevenrogers)

Dami rin pong commons and uncommons pero newer sets nga lang....

[clixboy]

bro mickey sent you a msg

[darkjacen]

And nakapanood na ba kayo nung new Clone Wars series? episode 5 na so far and magaganda lahat visually and story-wise. Hopefully this series would generate enough interest to prolong the SWM skirmish game.

Yeah, i kinda like the new series. The first episode with Yoda was a fun watch. Including his trade-marked laughter.:laugh: So far 5 episodes nga, the most recent one, Rookies, is out on some video sharing sites.

But SWM isn't going to revolve around that alone, there's a new Extended Universe book series to be released soon plus the ongoing Star Wars Legacy and KOTOR.

[capt charisma]

anybody interested in playing the star wars role... playing? hindi yung hardcore na may costumes a, yung tabletop rpg a la d&d (aaaah good 'ol d&d).

natanong ko lang :p hahaha :D

[Insulares]

anybody interested in playing the star wars role... playing? hindi yung hardcore na may costumes a, yung tabletop rpg a la d&d (aaaah good 'ol d&d).

natanong ko lang :p hahaha :D

May sourcebooks ka ba? Basic RPG manual?

[capt charisma]

May sourcebooks ka ba? Basic RPG manual?

yup, thanks to the dark magics of the internets.:rolleyes:

[clixboy]

LOOL hahaha!

[darkjacen]

Guys Clone Wars will be released in a few hours, well US at least. With any luck we'll have ours here soon enough!:grin:

Bwahahahaha more separatists for my army....:laugh:

Oh and on a more serious note, for those worried that SWM will fall into the way DnD has fallen, please read the links below.;)
Sarah Richey, SWM brand Manager's post re SWM concerns (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=17137668&postcount=87)

[darkjacen]

Thanks to clixboy for the info, apparently there's also going to be a Clone Wars Battle pack similar to the Battle of Hoth Set. Here're some links with pictures of the contents. (May Mace Windu from ROTS/Clone strike, not sure which one anymore..)
Clone Wars Battle Pack and commander gree preview. (http://io9.com/5056672/star-wars-miniatures-sneak-preview-commander-gree)

There are also a few exclusive figures from this battle pack. Argh...bakit sabay pa sa clone wars...i'll end up over budget...:speechles Karamihan pa naman Separatists and Republic my two favorite factions...

[clixboy]

that clone pack is a must get! may mace windu e! not to mention that AT-RT

[Pusher]

Oh and on a more serious note, for those worried that SWM will fall into the way DnD has fallen, please read the links below.;)
Sarah Richey, SWM brand Manager's post re SWM concerns (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=17137668&postcount=87)
mas marami palang "squirmish" players sa SWM kesa sa DDM lol :laugh:. I guess I'll be keeping my Republic Jedi Squad just in case I need to thwart some Separatist droid scum in the near future ;)

[mickey mouse]

Mga kabayan, you might wanna keep the X-1 Viper droids, they're very kick ### with the new Gen. Greivous from clone wars set, his cmdr. effect is not limited to within 6 squares, +4 atck, +4 def. and droid followers gain twin attack....

Paired with the battle droid officer that gives another +4 attack, they're shooting @ +16, with double attack if they don't move and twin....

Yay!!:eek:

[darkjacen]

Yup! Unlimited range yung commander effect ng bagong grievous plus twin attack pa (hindi na double attack unlike General Grievous, supreme commmander). Sweet....:cool: No longer required to stand still to hit 2x. (4x for the viper droid though:knockedou)
For those curios, here are his stats:

Faction: Separatists
Cost: 57
Hit Points: 100
Defense: 19
Attack: +8
Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Unique; Cyborg (Counts as both a Droid and a non-Droid; living; subject to critical hits and commander effects); Melee Attack; Triple Attack; Jedi Hunter (+4 Attack and +10 Damage against enemies with Force ratings); Blaster 20 (Replaces attacks: sight; +12 Attack for 20 Damage)
Commander Effect: Droids are subject to this effect: Droid followers get +4 Attack and +4 Defense and gain Twin Attack (Whenever this character attacks, it makes 1 extra attack against the same target).

It's a good day to be separatist!:laugh:

[mickey mouse]

Yup! Unlimited range yung commander effect ng bagong grievous plus twin attack pa (hindi na double attack unlike General Grievous, supreme commmander). Sweet....:cool: No longer required to stand still to hit 2x. (4x for the viper droid though:knockedou)
For those curios, here are his stats:

Faction: Separatists
Cost: 57
Hit Points: 100
Defense: 19
Attack: +8
Damage: 20
Special Abilities: Unique; Cyborg (Counts as both a Droid and a non-Droid; living; subject to critical hits and commander effects); Melee Attack; Triple Attack; Jedi Hunter (+4 Attack and +10 Damage against enemies with Force ratings); Blaster 20 (Replaces attacks: sight; +12 Attack for 20 Damage)
Commander Effect: Droids are subject to this effect: Droid followers get +4 Attack and +4 Defense and gain Twin Attack (Whenever this character attacks, it makes 1 extra attack against the same target).

It's a good day to be separatist!:laugh:

Ingat lang sa mga figs na may disruptive, like Kyle katarm jedi battlemaster...

[clixboy]

gen grvious is one of the reasons I am going to make a seperatist army when clone wars come out, gsto ko itry ang swarm droids hehe

[mickey mouse]

Updated !!!!

Extra figs ko mga kabayan, pero December 28 pa uwi sa pinas at di ko alam magkano presyuhan nyo dyan???

Figs and cards are in mint condition, some figs are still bagged....

VR haves:
Boba Fett, mercenary commander
General Greivous, Droid Army Commander (fresh na fresh)
Boba Fett, mercenary
Darth Caedus (sold to darkjacen)
Darth Revan
Anakin on Stap
Obi-Wan kenobi, padawan
Darth vader, unleashed x2 (x1 to stevenrogers)
Emperor Roan Fel (sold to clixboy)
Mira x2
Leia Organa, senator
Wolf Sazen
Maris Brood x2 (x1 to stevenrogers) (x1 to clixboy)
Luke Skywalker, force spirit x3 (x1 to stevenrogers)
Moff morlish veed x2

Rares haves:
Jarael x2 (x1 to stevenrogers) (x1 to blacknife)
Han Solo galactic hero x2
Jariah Syn
Bariss Offee, Jedi Knight
Bao-Dur x2
Zayne-Carrick x2
Visas Marr x2 (x1 to blacknife)
Deliah blue x3 (x1 to stevenrogers)
Deena Shan (sold to clixboy)
Captain Panaka
Luke Skywalker, hoth pilot unleashed (sold to clixboy)
Darth tyranus, LOTDS
Lumiya, the dark lady x2 (x1 to stevenrogers)
Canderous ordo (sold to stevenrogers)
Vadre's apprentice, redeemed x2 (x1 to stevenrogers) (x1 to dark jacen)
Kazdan Paratus x2
Master Kota (sold to stevenrogers)
Proxy
Mission Vao
Marasiah fel (sold to darkjacen)
K-3PO x3
Uggernaut x2
Wookie Hunter AT-ST (sold to clixboy)
Jagged fel x2
Juno Eclipse x2
Antares Draco (sold to darkjacen)
Zaalbar
Princess Leia of cloud city (sold to stevenrogers)
T3-M4 (sold to stevenrogers)
Luke Skywalker, legacy of the light side (sold to stevenrogers)

Dami rin pong commons and uncommons pero newer sets nga lang....

[iron_cowboy]

pm'd you mickey mouse!:)

[clixboy]

Have:

Luke Skywalker Hero of Yavin- 800Php
Darth Bane- 1000Php

and some uncommons and commons (I'll bring them on Sat for those interested)

[darkjacen]

Force Powers 101 - Lightsaber force powers

It occured to me that with the number of Lightsaber worded Force powers, we'd need simething to refer to. This will cover the current lightsaber powers. Every other day i will post additional force powers and what they do.

Lightsaber powers can be used to replace attacks (normal use), to increase the number of attacks and to defend against melee or range attacks. The force point requirement differs depending on the power. (In example, Darth Vader unleashed's Lightsaber throw, cost )

Defense-used lightsaber powers
Lightsaber Block
(Force; 1 Force point) When a character using this Force power is hit by a melee attack, it can avoid the damage with a save of 11. *

Lightsaber Deflect
(Force; 1 Force point) When a character using this Force power is hit by a nonmelee attack, it can avoid the damage with a save of 11. *

Lightsaber Reflect
(Force; 2 Force points) When a character using this Force power is hit by a nonmelee attack, it can avoid the damage with a save of 11. If this character avoids damage in this way, the attacker takes 10 points of damage unless it makes a save of 11. *

Lightsaber Riposte
(Force; 1 Force point) When a character using this Force power is hit by a melee attack, it can make an immediate attack against that attacker. *

*For all these defensive powers, the player must decide whether to use this Force power immediately after the attack hits.



Offense-based lightsaber powers
Lightsaber Sweep
(Force; 1 Force point) Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power makes one attack against each enemy adjacent to it instead of using the targeting rules. *

Lightsaber Assault
(Force; 1 Force point) Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power makes two attacks against an adjacent enemy (these can target different enemies). *

*A character can move normally on the turn that it uses this Force power. SO for example you can use lightsaber sweep/assault before moving, then after the attacks, move 6 squares away. Same thing goes for move 6 squares and then attack with sweep/assault.

Lightsaber Throw #

Lightsaber throw
(Force; 1 Force point) Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power can make one attack against an enemy within 6 squares, ignoring the Melee Attack restriction.

Lightsaber Throw 2:
(Force; 2 Force points) Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power makes 2 attacks against the same target enemy within 6 squares.

Lightsaber Throw 5:
(Force; 5 Force Points) Instead of taking its normal turn, a character using this Force power chooses on enemy within line of sight, even if it is in cover and is not the nearest enemy. (Even an enemy with Stealth can be chosen.) This character makes 2 attacks against the chosen enemy and 2 additional attacks against each character adjacent to it (enemes and allies alike).

*The effects of lightsaber throw counts as a nonmelee attack for the purposes of effects such as Lightsaber Deflect and Molecular Shielding.


I hope this helps and clears somethings out.;)

[clixboy]

Thanks to anton for the heads up and the various rules clarifications!

Sana andyan na ang stocks para makapag tourney na tyo!

[stevenrogers]

I vote for a sealed tourney agad :cool:

[clixboy]

Good news to all SW players and would be players..

Sometime next week the ff expansions will be available (unless something happens)

Clone strike
legacy of the Force
Champions of the force
knights of the old republic
force unleashed
bounty hunters
clone wars
clone wars starter

YEHEY!!! Finally makakahabol ang mga bagong players na sasali.. and yes first event natin will be sealed!! 2 boosters (any combination!!) or starter+ booster combination!!

[haroldsoon]

wow ayus parang gusto ko narin mag star wars! pero grabe first tourney niyo magastos ah! hahaha

[clixboy]

hehe wag ka mag alala harold.. the starter set ng clone wars ay sobrang sulit.. malakas ang mga units sa loob ng starter na to... as for boosters. unlike other games.. usually isang booster magagamit mo ang laman espacially kung alam mo hinahanap mong units.. most commons and uncommons are useful at vital sa squad mo.. dnt worry pang jump start kasi ung unang tourney kaya sealed.. you will get to use your boosters naman sa game... and subsequent tournies naman bukod sa LE figure prizes may maps at booster draft.. so all in all not a bad deal..

[stevenrogers]

My goodness!! Kadami namang boosters yun...sealed tayo na 1 booster per expansion tourney ba? Payag kayo? wehehheh.

Btw Pat, anong expansion meron dyang Siths na marami?

...and since magco concentrate muna ko siguro sa separatists and siths baka benta ko muna Rebels and Imperials ko people!!!:cool:

[ELOU]

magkano ba gagastusin sa tournament na yan at makasali nga...(wala akong idea how to play this game ah hehe)

[darkjacen]

magkano ba gagastusin sa tournament na yan at makasali nga...(wala akong idea how to play this game ah hehe)

That's not a problem I can teach you how to play it. Since you're familiar with DnD, it won't be that difficult for you to transition into this game. Boosters are roughly the same cost as with the other game, starters maybe same din but we'll know by the time it gets here.

Wow...and here i thought we'd only get Clone Wars. Not bad, may KOTOR (Ataru Style!)and Legacy. And more COTF. (General Windu here i come!)

Cons, Kung habol mo sith, check mo KOTOR. You'll find a decent number of sith and even manadalorian there. Not all are usable but it ought to have what you want.

[Pusher]

may downloadable rules din ba? links please! thanks...

[darkjacen]

Guys, remember a few posts Clixboy and i were talking about a battle pack? The official name is Clone Wars Battles. It had 10 figures, most re-issued. They are as follows:

ISP Speeder
Clone Trooper on Speeder
Roronn Corobb
Mace Windu, Jedi Master
Dwarf Spider Droid
General Grievous Supreme Commander
Hailfire Droid
IG 100 Magna Guard
IG Lancer Droid
Super Battle Droid Commander

I'm not sure if we'll be getting this but hey it looks promising;) It's more separatist than anything.

[clixboy]

Oh btw as decided upon, I shall be the official judge for SW minis PH.

So check out the forums sa Neutral Grounds next week for the possible schedule of our first tourney at Gale!

[iron_cowboy]

whos the baddest darth sith of all? darth vader ba? dahil sa sya ang main darth lord na sikat sa movies?:devious:

hey, how bout a name for each of the SW minis players, an alias, for example: i want to be sith lord than a jedi, i want to be called DARTH FERROUS, hehehe, for revision pa naman sya, latin name for IRON.:eek:

how i wish makapaglaro man lang ako ng SW minis.......:)

[haroldsoon]

i dont think si darth vader ang baddest sith.. si cons makakasagot niyan since he collects siths. :)

[xandman]

i dont think si darth vader ang baddest sith.. si cons makakasagot niyan since he collects siths. :)

Si Darth Sithsirithsith ata ang baddest sith.:laugh:

[iron_cowboy]

Si Darth Sithsirithsith ata ang baddest sith.:laugh:

so ibig sabihin mahilig sila sa SITHcom at mahilig kumain ng SITHsirya at panSITH?:laugh::laugh::laugh:

hail clixboy for being the SW minis judge and Darkjacen for promoting SW minis in the philippines!!!!:)

just went to SW site, when you buy a Clone wars starter plus a booster youll get a legacy of the force booster for FREE!!! sana meron sa Philippines nito!!!:eek:

[clixboy]

haha unfortunately ung promo na yan for US release lang (nakalagay sa fine print nila haha)

So sa mga interested mag SW minis may freeplay tom sa gale.. we can teach you guys if you want

[darkjacen]

Do you guys really want me to get into the discussion?:cheeky: Darth Vader is considered one of the great sith lords for his part in decimating the Republic's Jedi Order. Darth Sidious is considered a mastermind, a great sith lord for his careful manipulation of the Galactic Republic and the formation of the Empire, near destruction of the Jedi Order.

Each Sith Lord brings something new to the old order. Currently the Sith lord in the recent storyline is Darth Krayt, an old Jedi who turned sith, got tortured by the Yuuzhan Vong, Just like Darth Caedus, and created a new sith order, now following the rule of one (One Sith order) instead of the rule of 2 placed in effect by Darth Bane or Anedduu i think (One master, one apprentice)

If you guys want i can give you a whole history of both orders. Or just check Wookiepedia.;)

[iron_cowboy]

just scan the wookiepedia!!! i love bastila shan and juno eclipse!:rolleyes:

found out that there are many siths per generation including the rule of two (one master, one apprentice), yup darth sidious is indeed a mastermind, a manipulator!!! now whats the difference between imperial and empire?:eek:

just wondering why there are so many jedis consumed by the dark power and later turned into siths! sa bagay sa pilipinas nga daming ganito especially sa politics.:)

[stevenrogers]

Darth Vader is NOT the Baddest Sith...for the sole reason that natauhan siya in the end and cursed his evil ways. In terms of raw power maybe Darth Bane, pati sa SWM malupit yan!!! (although I prefer Exar Kuhn of all the Sith figs in my possesion right now...imagine 23 defense and 19 attack? plus a whole lots of powers that's really worth his high point).

But if you're looking for the real authority in Star Wars Who's who...no one can beat the original SWM God: Anton aka Darkjacen - he's the guy you ask for these things. All Hail Anton...without whom this community would not have started in the first place!!! ;)

Let's start the games people. My Siths are ready!!! And Aching to kill all your Jedis!!!


...and yes, I still maintain that LRD Rules!!!

[stevenrogers]

Btw, even Charing is into SW Minis na....
He calls himself: Tol, Darth Enhansome!!! while calling me
Darth Maulester...you beeyoch!!!:laugh:

[haroldsoon]

Btw, even Charing is into SW Minis na....
He calls himself: Tol, Darth Enhansome!!! while calling me
Darth Maulester...you beeyoch!!!:laugh:

hahaha panalo!:laugh:

[Xtriker47]

Btw, even Charing is into SW Minis na....
He calls himself: Tol, Darth Enhansome!!! while calling me
Darth Maulester...you beeyoch!!!:laugh:

trip na trip ni cons asarin si charlon sa kahit anong thread ah! haha:cheeky:

[darkjacen]

hey, how bout a name for each of the SW minis players, an alias, for example: i want to be sith lord than a jedi, i want to be called DARTH FERROUS, hehehe, for revision pa naman sya, latin name for IRON.:eek:


Just let me say, I am against this. Do not make me a part of that. Call yourselves what you want, but leave me out of it.:tired:


@cons,
Darth enhansome...Darth maulester...hehehe:laugh:...but joking aside back on track.


Before i continue with the force powers guide, let me explain a little about Commander Effects.

Commander Effects:
Some characters have a commander effects that grant bonuses and abilities to other allies in a skirmish battle. These can have a minimum range (sometimes 6 squares) or have unlimited range. However, you have to count doors, wall terrain and other terrain when counting range.

Bonuses granted by multiple copies of the same commander effect, DO NOT STACK. You cannot have 3 battle droid commanders and get their +4 bonus to attack x3. It's possible to have other commander effects in play, but if the commander effects grant a bonus to one stat, ONLY THE HIGHEST APPLIES.

So example:
I have 2 Storm Trooper Commanders, a storm trooper and a storm trooper officer

Storm Trooper Commander has the ff Commander Effect:
At the end of its turn, this character can choose 1 adjacent non-unique follower. That follower gets +10 damage until the end of this character's next turn, or until this character is defeated.

Storm Trooper officer has the ff Commander Effect:
Trooper followers within 6 squares get +3 Attack if they do not move this turn.

The regular storm trooper can benefit from two commander effects. The Officer and Commander. Although i have 2 commanders, this will not give me a net bonus of +20 damage, only 10. Also if i had another commander that granted a +4 attack, i would only be able to get +4 (it being the higher of the two) and not +7 Attack. Either way the regular stormie can shoot for +3 attack and, +10 damage. Just as an example.;)

Some characters are also not subject to commander effects. Characters that are Savage and those that are droids (Most of the time, except with General Grievous) cannot be affected by this. Also commander effects end only when the character with the effect is defeated. (Kinda like warcraft 3 hero auras if you know what i mean....actually it is really like that:grin:) Also some commander effects only work on non-unique characters.

[Insulares]

Bonuses granted by multiple copies of the same commander effect, DO NOT STACK. You cannot have 3 battle droid commanders and get their +4 bonus to attack x3. It's possible to have other commander effects in play, but if the commander effects grant a bonus to one stat, ONLY THE HIGHEST APPLIES.


This is the case even though the effects are given under different conditions right? - i.e. opportunist and deceptive won't give you +20 attack but only +10?

[iron_cowboy]

Just let me say, I am against this. Do not make me a part of that. Call yourselves what you want, but leave me out of it.:tired:

im just suggesting, well if youre against of what i have said, fine with me.:knockedou

hail anton for promoting SW minis, konting tiis na lang, magkakaroon na rin ako ng SW minis!!!!:)

[clixboy]

hahaha darth maulester not bad not bad.... may apprentice ka na pala cons! si xtriker! a.k.a. Darth Pinipig! hahahahahhahaahahaha

[Xtriker47]

hahaha darth maulester not bad not bad.... may apprentice ka na pala cons! si xtriker! a.k.a. Darth Pinipig! hahahahahhahaahahaha

apprentice ni cons??:laugh: yari hahahahahahha

[mickey mouse]

haha unfortunately ung promo na yan for US release lang (nakalagay sa fine print nila haha)

So sa mga interested mag SW minis may freeplay tom sa gale.. we can teach you guys if you want

What branch of gale ba do you play guys?

Gale as in Robinson's Galeria?

[mickey mouse]

Updated with lowered prices !!

Extra figs ko mga kabayan, pero December 28 pa uwi sa pinas at di ko alam magkano presyuhan nyo dyan???:confused:

Figs and cards are in mint condition, some figs are still bagged....

Prices are per figure !!

VR haves:
Boba Fett, mercenary x2 1.5k
Darth Caedus 1.6k
Yoda on Kybuck 1k
Captain Rex 1k
General Greivous, Droid army commander x2 1.2k
Durge, Jedi Hunter 1.2k
Darth vader, unleashed 1k
Mira x2 1k
Leia Organa, senator 600 pesos
Wolf Sazen 800 pesos
Luke Skywalker, force spirit x3 600 pesos
Moff morlish veed x2 500 pesos

Rares haves:
Han Solo galactic hero x2 500 pesos
Jariah Syn 400 pesos
Bao-Dur x2 400 pesos
Zayne-Carrick 300 pesos
Visas Marr 400 pesos
Deliah blue x2 500 pesos
Captain Panaka 400 pesos
Lumiya, the dark lady 500 pesos
Kazdan Paratus 400 pesos
Mission Vao 300 pesos
K-3PO x3 300 pesos
Uggernaut x2 300 pesos
Jagged fel x2 300 pesos
Juno Eclipse x2 300 pesos
Zaalbar 300 pesos

Dami rin pong commons and uncommons pero newer sets nga lang....

[darkjacen]

This is the case even though the effects are given under different conditions right? - i.e. opportunist and deceptive won't give you +20 attack but only +10?

CORRECTION:
Q: The commander effect rules say that you can't stack two bonuses from commander effects to the same roll or statistic. However, some commander effects don't grant bonuses directly; they grant named special abilities. Examples include Durge (grants Momentum), Warmaster Tsavong Lah (grants Momentum), the New Republic Commander (grants Careful Shot), the Super Battle Droid Commander (grants Careful Shot), and Han Solo, Rebel Hero (grants Advantageous Attack). Can a character stack a bonus from these commander effect-derived abilities with a bonus to the same stat from some other commander effect?

A: No. Even though the bonuses are granted by a special ability, they are still bonuses which are ultimately granted by a commander effect. Therefore, the bonuses to not stack with bonuses to the same statistics from other commander effects.

So since the bonus is still granted by a commander effect it still won't stack.

[stevenrogers]

More on these Jedis and Sith jokes...I still think hindi bagay kay Charing ung Tol, Darth Enhansome no? Tapos ako Darth Maulester!!! I beg to disagree!!! Dapat Exar Cons!!!:angry::rolleyes:

Anyways...Kung Darth Pinipig si Xtriker? Si Xandy naman e si Obi Wan Chupapi...:laugh:
Si Cool pwedeng Emperor Papa-Thin!!!
Si Mark of course alam na nating si Hand Solo yan for obvious reasons..;)
Si Ma-Elvin I vote to the senate as C.unt Duukut. :knockedou
Arthur can be Chewpaka!!! :laugh:

[clixboy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

teka mga naisep kong names pero hinde ko alam kanino ko bibigay...

Darth Malak-I (hinde ko lang alam ano ang malaki...)
Master Fota (ang hari ng mga fota....)


hahaha ay lintek mga utak nyo nakakahawa!

teka ano relasyon ni charlon ke aura sing?!

[iron_cowboy]

hahahaha, so many sith and jedi names, dapat pati sith and jedi, maiba naman, ano kayang maganda?hmmmmmmm................:laugh::laugh::laugh:

sino ba ang publisher ng star wars comics, just heard of star wards knights of the republic, wherein the jedi academy was ambushed by many sith and a jedi was the suspect, btw, anong tpb ang magandang basahin sa star wars?

sino si master yoda dito? wala bang luke skywalker? or leia organa?

and whos aura sing?

[iron_cowboy]

may naisip akong isang pangalan, malupit to kaso di ko alam kung para kanino, darth TARAYnus, o d b? ang taray, dark lord of the sith yan, o ha!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[stevenrogers]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

teka mga naisep kong names pero hinde ko alam kanino ko bibigay...

Darth Malak-I (hinde ko lang alam ano ang malaki...)
Master Fota (ang hari ng mga fota....)


hahaha ay lintek mga utak nyo nakakahawa!

teka ano relasyon ni charlon ke aura sing?!



Si ChAurarlon Sing ang anak ng tatay na kapatid at kapitbahay na pinsan ng lolo na kaibigan ng best friend at inaanak ng lola ng kamag anak sa 3rd cousin at apo sa talampakan ng kilala ni Aura Sing.(malinaw ok?):laugh:
- Meron pa siyempreng mga Jedis and siths dyan like Master J.oga.... Darth i-Trader...Mace Wangbu...Leah Orgasma...C-3 B.O.
...isipin nyo nlang kung kanino natin pwede ipangalan yan...im still thinking of a good nick para kay Harold da Devil Worshipper eh..;)

[iron_cowboy]

hahahahaha, :laugh::laugh::laugh:

nice one, exar cons! lakas pala ni darth bane, 200HP,wow, imagine that absolute power!!!:eek:

now, we have the jedis, the siths, the rebels, wala bang storm troopers or any vehicle used by this squad.

[iron_cowboy]

whats the meaning of AT/TE and Laat/s? just scan my star wars tcg.. these are vehicles used by the clone troopers against the separatists yata.

wala bang monster manual ang SW minis, like reek, acklay (this one is a killer! lumabas ito sa attack of the clones) and yeti and rancor?

may incident na ba na nangyari sa SW universe that a jedi turned into a sith then revert back to a jedi, hmmmmmm..... o kaya lalaki na naging lalakwe at naging ganap na babae?:grin: yung klasmeyt ko nung elementary kasi ganito na, nagparetoke abroad then nagpakasal sa bf nya na nurse....

[clixboy]

hoy cons d ka pede exar cons DAPAT Sex R' Cons BWAHAHAHAHAHA
AT-AT= All terrain armored transport
AT-ST= all terrain scout transport

yes marami jedi na nag attempt nyan.. pati si luke skywalker ginawa nya yan from light to dark then back to light.....

[darkjacen]

sino si master yoda dito? wala bang luke skywalker? or leia organa?

and whos aura sing?

I'll try to make this as simple as possible. On this thread joking around with pseudo-sith names is somewhat acceptable, but what your suggesting i will not condone, not on this thread. :tired:

Have some respect please. You can do that on some other medium.

[clixboy]

Anyway enough of the dirty jokes and get back on topic......

Let's keep the posts clean from now on lol we had fun....

Btw I will be keeping up to date sa NG forums para sa mga events na magaganap..

[iron_cowboy]

I'll try to make this as simple as possible. On this thread joking around with pseudo-sith names is somewhat acceptable, but what your suggesting i will not condone, not on this thread. :tired:

Have some respect please. You can do that on some other medium.

as i have predicted earlier and before, i have read somebodys mind that this will happen.

just wondering why im the one youre always targetting or pinpointing! i just started to asked if what if we call or get to have ourselves some jedi or sith names, do you have a problem with that? i didnt started the joking on names, i just second, third motion it, try to think about it ok, i just started saying call me darth ferrous or lets call ourselves some SW names when playing sw minis, whats the big problem with that one?

i know you have started this thread, now next time if you will make a thread why not set some rules and restrictions on your thread. i have read and replied to some thread here and some are much more malicious than just giving some pseudo names, but the thread starter didnt say about anything on those players. theyre just happy that even with our individual differences, we still have our common goal of fun playing with each other while throwing jokes. get my point.:)

[ELOU]

can someone give me an idea on which warband is good right now? yaw ko ng sith something with jedis on it would be nice hindi pa kasi ako familiar with the figs thanks

[mickey mouse]

My post doesn't pinpoint anything to anyone, I live here in Canada which I play to Canadians, they find me as sort of a joker, coz I joke a lot....

I find it also funny when I visit hcrealms' philippines heroclix discussion thread. Oh man, madalas sumakit ang tyan ko sa kakatawa reading the posts there when they call each other names.

The only downside in joking I guess is when somebody becomes pikon, I guess darkjacen doesn't mean any harm, he just probably doesn't want things to get out of hand. And I guess same goes to iron_cowboy which I thing he wants it to be a fun and friendly thread that everybody will enjoy browsing into....

More power to your SWM community, cut each other some slack :grin::grin::grin:!!!!

[mickey mouse]

can someone give me an idea on which warband is good right now? yaw ko ng sith something with jedis on it would be nice hindi pa kasi ako familiar with the figs thanks

Gawa kita ng competitive squad ELOU, but it'll cost around 2.5k - 3k.

Gusto mo?:eek:

[clixboy]

hehe yes well I am sure nobody meant any harm.... so lets just keep our jokes to the name calling part :)

anyways, squad ang tawag sa warband ng SW minis hehe

there are currently the ff factions available:

Rebel
Empire
New Republic
Old Republic
Sith
Mandalorain
Yuzan Vhong
Seperatists

Currently the most accessible units belong to the rebels and empire and a couple of siths.... but with the incoming wave of expansions na papasok sa NG all factions will be represented fairly well...

[mickey mouse]

Updated with lowered prices !!

Extra figs ko mga kabayan, pero December 28 pa uwi sa pinas, malapit na po!!!!

Figs and cards are in mint condition, some figs are still bagged....

Prices are per figure !!

VR haves:
Boba Fett, mercenary x2 1.5k
Darth Caedus 1.6k
Yoda on Kybuck 1k
Captain Rex 1k
General Greivous, Droid army commander x2 1.2k
Durge, Jedi Hunter 1.2k
Darth vader, unleashed 1k
Mira x2 1k
Leia Organa, senator 600 pesos
Wolf Sazen 800 pesos
Luke Skywalker, force spirit x3 600 pesos
Moff morlish veed x2 500 pesos

Rares haves:
Han Solo galactic hero x2 500 pesos
Jariah Syn 400 pesos
Bao-Dur x2 400 pesos
Zayne-Carrick 300 pesos
Visas Marr 400 pesos
Deliah blue x2 500 pesos
Captain Panaka 400 pesos
Lumiya, the dark lady 500 pesos
Kazdan Paratus 400 pesos
Mission Vao 300 pesos
K-3PO x3 300 pesos
Uggernaut x2 300 pesos
Jagged fel x2 300 pesos
Juno Eclipse x2 300 pesos
Zaalbar 300 pesos

Dami rin pong commons and uncommons pero newer sets nga lang....

[darkjacen]

Name calling's fine, there's no harm in that. But we can't let this go too far. Before we know it the thread will be about anything except Star Wars, which wasn't my intention when i started this and promoted SWM. Fun is one thing, but it also has to be respectful. Some people have favorite characters in SW, people have to be a bit more tactful about that. I'm also trying to keep the thread as clean as possible, i meant no disrespect.;)

Back on Track.

Elou, you really don't need to have any Jedi in your team. Yes they're powerful but with most of the figures of Jedi/Sith origin you need to get close to be in a position to deal significant damage.

Imperials and Rebels are the most common as Clixboy said earlier but you could always throw in fringe characters to mix it up a bit. Jango and Boba Fett are good, but you can also go for relatively cheap (Point-wise and Peso-wise) characters. Fringe are your best fillers.:cheeky: Plus they're relatively easy to come by.;)

Just as an example.
100 point Republic Squad:
Republic Commando Boss 19
Republic Commando Scorch x 3 48
Republic commando training sergeant 30

Total: 97

None of these are unique. Instead of relying on a Rare or Very Rare Jedi, you can use commander effects to your advantage. Almost all pof these characters have stealth, plus Scorch will be even deadlier with the CE of Boss and the added abilities thanks to the sergeant. See no Jedi and they're all uncommon. (I really should try this out sometime)

Or
100 point Sith
Dark Jedi Master 29
Sith Trooper x 4 32
Sith Trooper Commander 19
Force Adept x 2 20
Total 100

You have 2 adepts to use force alter on the enemies, 4 troopers to shoot at opponents and a Dark Jedi to cause mayhem.

[Pusher]

darkjacen, 100 pts ba usually ang isang squad when you play locally? not 200 pts? and what victory condition do you use in your games?

just for my info incase maligaw ang mga old republic jedi ko dyan hehe :grin:

thanks!

[sayoman]

hi! finally a sw minis thread :grin:
i have lots of extra minis for sale or trade from the first set, rebel storm to alliance and empire, also starship battles. im interested in the new sets. il post a list soon.
you can contact me at 09158771665 or 09228014322

[clixboy]

Well standard squad builds in SW minis is 100pts then 150 then 200pts, kumbaga a 200pt game is equivalent to a 400pt DnD epic match.

All units have pros and cons in sw minis, it all boils down to the right combination, tactic and of course the vagaries of the die roll :)

The only fun part sa SW minis is walang range limitation (unless specified) so no need to count squares when shooting. And most melee fighters are really good melee fighters... and shooters are good at shooting.. and some characters who are actually good in both... and dito sa SW minis there are what you call tentpole units , titans if you may call them and they are indeed strong (but not unbeatable) perfect example of a hard to kill unit is Darth Bane... 82pts of sheer power if you may...hehehe

[iron_cowboy]

hey sayoman,

kumusta, i know you dont remember me, but i saw you one time in NG Madison 2 or 3 years ago, you bought an SW revenge of the sith board game with obi wan kenobi and general grievous on it, you traded me your Jade RE from DC legacy.:)

[iron_cowboy]

napansin ko sa mga SW movies na hindi man lang nag karoon ng cross over battle between master yoda and darth vader.

and whos shin akris, the lady in white robe?

[darkjacen]

hi! finally a sw minis thread :grin:
i have lots of extra minis for sale or trade from the first set, rebel storm to alliance and empire, also starship battles. im interested in the new sets. il post a list soon.
you can contact me at 09158771665 or 09228014322

Welcome to the threads!

Pusher,

So far we've yet to have our official tourny. Clixboy will be our judge. The squad builds are based on the Official WOTC sanctioned squad builds 100-150-200. As soon as we get the new stuff we'll start of with a sealed tourny. For more info you can ask our Judge.;)

[iron_cowboy]

until now, i dont know the meaning of Laat/s and AT/TE:rolleyes:

[Pusher]

AT/TE:rolleyes: All Terrain Terrain Enhancer? :laugh: parang lawn-mower ba hehe... i swear nung college pa ako medyo alam ko ito, kasama nung mga quotable quotes ni Grand Admiral Thrawn :grin:

@Judge Pats, buhay pa ba yung rule na pag may cover yung creature, ay hindi sya pwedeng target ng ranged attack unless sya yung nearest?

and pag may adjacent na enemy, ay hindi ka pwede magtarget ng non-adjacent na enemy?

whenever you count distances (for "within 6" halimbawa), you count as if you're counting the distance when moving tama ba?

salamat po :eek:

viva la... oops wrong thread hehe! :knockedou

[darkjacen]

buhay pa ba yung rule na pag may cover yung creature, ay hindi sya pwedeng target ng ranged attack unless sya yung nearest?

and pag may adjacent na enemy, ay hindi ka pwede magtarget ng non-adjacent na enemy?

That rule for cover hasn't changed. As long as may cover, you can only target the character if it's the nearest one, unless may stealth.

Same thing for the attacking. You cannot do nonmelee attack against other characters if you're adajcent to an enemy. You can only attack those adjacent.

[clixboy]

yes nearest enemy still counts but stealth has totally different ruling regarding targeting.

you count squares from the character itself as normal hinde na as if moving (ung 1, 1-2, 3-4 etc) they made it simpler now (this is based on what I know since the latest rulebook never clarified this)

[Pusher]

That rule for cover hasn't changed. As long as may cover, you can only target the character if it's the nearest one, unless may stealth.

Same thing for the attacking. You cannot do nonmelee attack against other characters if you're adajcent to an enemy. You can only attack those adjacent.

Copy that. Thanks. :grin:

[ELOU]

-mickey mouse
send me a pm of what squad you have in mind...thanks

-darkjacen
i just really like jedis thats why I asked for a squad that revolves around them. its always fun for me playing when I know who my characters are oara makarelate ba hehe

[haroldsoon]

yes nearest enemy still counts but stealth has totally different ruling regarding targeting.

you count squares from the character itself as normal hinde na as if moving (ung 1, 1-2, 3-4 etc) they made it simpler now (this is based on what I know since the latest rulebook never clarified this)

talaga? so yung "within 6" becomes similar to the 6 range of heroclix? yung rulebook ng Hoth set kasi ang nagsabi na bibilangin like movement diba? hehe

also, when combining fire, the character combining fire should have line of sight to the target at the start of the action right? it can't move? how about the character receiving the combine fire bonus? can it move+attack/attack+move/mobile attack?

woohoo meron na akong imperial pieces! haha

[darkjacen]

i just really like jedi thats why I asked for a squad that revolves around them. its always fun for me playing when I know who my characters are oara makarelate ba hehe

Glad to hear that then! If Jedi are what you want, you have options from Old Republic, Republic and New republic.

Your best bet would be Republic Era/Faction. So far they have the most memorable characters from the Star Wars Universe, plus adequate supporting troops such as clones etc. I always get a kick seeing my squad led by Kit Fisto or Obi-Wan, brings back memories of Episode 2 and 3, not to mention the clone wars animated series.

Clone Strike, Champions of the Force and Clone Wars will be your choice of expansions. Who knows you might even get Yoda from clone strike;)

[darkjacen]

also, when combining fire, the character combining fire should have line of sight to the target at the start of the action right? it can't move? how about the character receiving the combine fire bonus? can it move+attack/attack+move/mobile attack?


Combining fire requires that you activate a character to give a +4 bonus for an attack AND that the characters combining fire have line of sight to the target. It doesn't count towards your 2 activations per phase/turn but you do activate the character.

The rulebook glossary doesn't mention that you can't move-attack/attack-move. It just says that when a character attacks. (I might have missed something though)

[clixboy]

Shoot just read the updated rules...... same as counting movement nga ang pag determine ng mga ranged effects.. nakakalito nga un haha but usually sa comander effect lang yan at sa mga ibang force powers nag aapply..

wow harold parang alam ko na kung kanino galing mga pieces mo ah! I smell cons.... haha

[mickey mouse]

talaga? so yung "within 6" becomes similar to the 6 range of heroclix? yung rulebook ng Hoth set kasi ang nagsabi na bibilangin like movement diba? hehe

also, when combining fire, the character combining fire should have line of sight to the target at the start of the action right? it can't move? how about the character receiving the combine fire bonus? can it move+attack/attack+move/mobile attack?

woohoo meron na akong imperial pieces! haha


Yes, the character combining fire should have line of sight to the target at the start of the action right and is considered ativated and can't move but doesn't count towards your 2 activations per phase/turn.

Lets say a character is combining fire with Boba Fett Bounty hunter that has mobile and twin, Boba BH will get an additional +4 for his first attack but not with his twin and can still use his mobile ability. You can also combine fire towards Boba's twin attack from another character provided they can shoot doesn't say melee attack on it's card....

[haroldsoon]

Shoot just read the updated rules...... same as counting movement nga ang pag determine ng mga ranged effects.. nakakalito nga un haha but usually sa comander effect lang yan at sa mga ibang force powers nag aapply..

wow harold parang alam ko na kung kanino galing mga pieces mo ah! I smell cons.... haha

hahaha oo... concentrate na daw sha sa sith!

Thanks to Anton and Mickeymouse for the clarifications!

[haroldsoon]

Next question...

Does the Stormtrooper Officer (who has his own commander effect) count as a "trooper follower" for the commander effect of another character?

[darkjacen]

To put it simply, A follower is a character without commander effects. A commander grants bonus abilities or stats through commander effects. But commanders can still make use of other commander effects, unless otherwise stated on the card itself.

[mickey mouse]

Next question...

Does the Stormtrooper Officer (who has his own commander effect) count as a "trooper follower" for the commander effect of another character?

I'm not so sure on this, but I think the only time a commander can benefit from another commander effect is when The wording on the other commander effect states the word "allies", kindly check....

For example:

Mandalore The Indomitable's cmdr effect say:
Mandalorian allies gain momentum

So Boba fett, Mercenary Commander (being a commander himself) might benefit from momentum, again kindly check....

[clixboy]

not sure din dito e.. ang alam ko kac followers are units that have no commander effect... but certain commander effects override this rule... I am a bit inclined to say that stormtrooper officers are (fluffwise and sens wise) considered as followers... since si Vader ang nag bibigay ng CE. But I will check the rules forums first

[clixboy]

BTW we will be moving all discussions on our homesite sa Neutral Grounds Forums since hinde natin alam kung gaano itatagal ng forums na to dito...

[darkjacen]

Guys here's the link to the Star Wars Minis Discussions Thread on our home forums.

Star Wars Minis Discussions Thread (http://www.neutralgrounds.net/forums/index.php?topic=10584.0)

I shall be transferring the content i've posted here on realms over the course of a few days.

[haroldsoon]

I checked out the NG forums and boyet and juppy say that they are the ones organizing SW tourneys.. So triple judges ba kasama si clixboy? :)

[haroldsoon]

also, do any of you have any idea on how to make the bent lightsabers straight again? O! Wag bibigyan ng malisya (Cons!)!

[Insulares]

also, do any of you have any idea on how to make the bent lightsabers straight again? O! Wag bibigyan ng malisya (Cons!)!

My friend suggested using hot water to soften the plastic then put the fig in front of a fan or aircon. However, I have not tested this yet.

I will let you know if my attempt to fix my dark jedi's lightsaber is successful.

Cons - bent lightsaber to straight sabi niya, hindi soft lightsaber to hard ha! :laugh:

[darkjacen]

I checked out the NG forums and boyet and juppy say that they are the ones organizing SW tourneys.. So triple judges ba kasama si clixboy? :)

Haha funny, clixboy is juppy.:laugh:

Hey as long as realms is kicking i suppose i will keep this thread alive, but again, since we're uncertain as to how long, I moved most of the content to NG forums na rin.

[mickey mouse]

also, do any of you have any idea on how to make the bent lightsabers straight again? O! Wag bibigyan ng malisya (Cons!)!


Dip it in hot boiling water for at least 2 -3 minutes, and have an ice cold water in a bucket nearby, straighten the said lightsaber before dipping it into the ice cold bucket, hope this helps....

Also mga kabayan, paki post naman ang address and phone # ng NG where you guys would be playing, thanks in advance....

[clixboy]

haha onga pala ako si juppy sa NG forums hehe

[Insulares]

haha onga pala ako si juppy sa NG forums hehe

Pat - how do you customize your settings - avatar, signature, etc. on the NG site? Thanks.

[haroldsoon]

thanks javi and mickeymouse! haha okay si pat pala yun.. ahah

[clixboy]

its under profile settings... it's not as flashy as the realms site profile and albeit a bit tricky to use

[Insulares]

thanks pat!

[stevenrogers]

Hmmmm, Harold has a bent light saber and Javi is helping him out to get it straight with hot water...heheheh...I cant help but admire some brotherly love. hahahah..
And Harold, why'd you have to bring this problem of yours all the way kasi dito pa sa forum. ahahhehe
But joking aside, sabie ni XAndy - si Joel blinoblower nya ung kanya para tumuwid. teka parang mas bastos yata tong comment na to a!!! hhahahah..

[clixboy]

omaygad!!! The Master of the Arts is in da house!! (cons)

Bkt ba panay "saber" ang usapan nyo? kayo talaga o.....

anyway looks like our stuff will arrive next week pa...

[clixboy]

omaygad!!! The Master of the Arts is in da house!! (cons)

Bkt ba panay "saber" ang usapan nyo? kayo talaga o.....

anyway looks like our stuff will arrive next week pa...

[Insulares]

Hahaha! Just giving suggestions for repair. But there are some words that excite the skrull emperor cons - "saber", "hard", etc. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

By the way patrick - mickey's suggestions for repairing lightsabers work. So if you have any damaged goods, they are easy to fix.

[clixboy]

yup. pwede nga un gawin.... but i won't use it on the other minis na bent.... you might scald off the paint

[haroldsoon]

sabi na magdadala na naman ng kabastusan si cons eh! haha

pat, so sure na wala this saturday?

[darkjacen]

It came to my attention that there is a debate regarding when you can use force powers. About it being only once per turn.:noid:

A characters force points can only be used once per turn. To understand what that means let's go back to how the game is played in the first place:

A skirmish game is played in rounds. Each round is divided into phases, a character takes turns in each phase. On each character's turn, the player can use a character's force point only ONCE unless otherwise stated (Force mastery etc...)

So Game has rounds, each round is divided into phases, on each phase a character can be activated, that is the definition of a turn.

The only drawback in using force points per turn in this manner is that some characters have a limited amount of force points to use for force powers, so unless a character has renewal or gains additional force points through the game (force spirit etc), you end up with the risk of running out of force points faster. Hence, you have to know the right time to use force points.

So for instance I spend 1 force point to use Knight speed. That action uses up that character's allotable force point usage for the turn. Other characters with force points can use force points and defacto force powers as well.

That doesn't stop you from using it on your opponents turn if your character can do so. Take for example Defensive powers such as Absorb, Lightsaber deflect/reflect/block.

Here's the text from the rulebook.

Once per turn: A character can spend force points only once per turn. However it may spend force points during other character's turns, if appropriate, and can do so multiple times in a round (if it has enough force points)



From the glossary of the advanced rulebook, page 33
A character can spend Force points only once per turn. Sometimes, though, a character can spend Force points on other characters’ turns, such as to reroll a failed save. In this case, a character can end up spending Force points more than once per round.


In my example the character used knight speed. If on his opponent's turn he is attacked by a close combat attack, and happens to have lightsaber block he can do so. It still follows the once per turn rule, but instead of using the force point on my turn, i used it on my opponents turn for defense. That is perfectly legal. So if i get melee attacked by another character, i could use lightsaber block again, since it's on another character's turn. But only if i have enough force points to do so. Or if i was targetted by grenades and failed a save roll, i could spend 1 point to reroll my save.

However lets say that my opponent had twin attack, i could use lightsaber block for the first attack, but not for the second since i've already used a force point for that turn.

[clixboy]

yes harold, unless some miracle occurs and the stuff arrives tomorrow.......

[haroldsoon]

ay sayang... anyway, can someone please explain EXTRA ATTACK? i think gets ko naman yung idea pero how does the "cumulative" keyword affect the wording of the ability?

[darkjacen]

Extra Attack allows a character to make an additional attack. This stacks with double/triple/quadruple attack.

So for example i have a kashykk trooper that has double attack. A commander effect gives it extra attack. You could use double attack and then still use extra attack.


Extra Attack
On its turn, this character can make 1 cumulative extra attack instead of moving


On its turn, this character can make an extra attack, but it can't move if it does so. This works just like other special abilities that grant extra attacks, such as Double Attack. This extra attack stacks with those granted by other special abilities and commander effects, and it also stacks with Extra Attacks granted by different special abilities (so the same ally could receive multiple extra attacks in the same turn).

[haroldsoon]

This extra attack stacks with those granted by other special abilities and commander effects, and it also stacks with Extra Attacks granted by different special abilities (so the same ally could receive multiple extra attacks in the same turn).

Oh I get it.. "Cumulative" means that the effect can be stacked.. Thanks Anton!

[darkjacen]

Clarifications on:

Since, we'll be seeing more of this later on in the games, it might as well be here explained.

Sight
Many Force powers and special abilities have a range of sight. They affect any target that the character using the power or ability can see.

Line of Sight
A character can see a target that it has line of sight to. Walls block line of sight. To determine line of sight, draw an imaginary line between any point in one character’s space and any point in the other character’s space. If any such line is not blocked by a wall, then the two characters have line of sight to each other. The line is clear if it doesn’t intersect or even touch walls.

Legal Target
An enemy must be a legal target for an attack, special ability, or Force power. The acting character must have line of sight to it. An enemy with cover is not a legal target unless it is the nearest. If one or more enemies are adjacent to the character, only those enemies are legal targets.

Range
Sometimes a Force power or a special ability works only within a listed range. This is the distance in squares between the attacker's and the defender's square, counting the defender’s square. Diagonals count as 2 squares. Low obstacles, difficult terrain, and pits do not affect range, but when counting range, you can’t trace a path through a wall (you count around it instead).

Replace Attacks
Some Force powers or special abilities have “replaces attacks” as a special cost. A character who uses such a Force power or special ability can’t make other attacks that turn, even if another ability allows extra attacks, and can’t replace more than one attack. When making an attack of opportunity, a character cannot use a Force power or special ability that replaces attacks. A character cannot use a Force power or special ability that replaces attacks in the same turn that it uses a Force power or special ability that replaces its turn.

Replaces Turn
Some Force powers or special abilities have “replaces turn” as a special cost. A character who uses such a Force power or special ability gives up its normal turn. End-of-turn effects are resolved normally after using the Force power or special ability that replaces the character’s turn. A character cannot use a Force power or special ability that replaces attacks in the same turn that it uses a Force power or special ability that replaces its turn.

[haroldsoon]

Question about Accurate Shot:

A figure with accurate shot can shoot a figure with Stealth right? But does the figure with AS ignore the cover provided by the terrain? How about cover provided by other characters?

[clixboy]

unless specifically stated sa accurate shot... the only thing I think it ignores is stealth... but kung nakalagay na pati cover ignored then that's the time ignored ang cover.. unlike clix sa SW minis naka specify most of the time ang mga bagay na pwede at hinde pwede,...

[darkjacen]

Question about Accurate Shot:

A figure with accurate shot can shoot a figure with Stealth right? But does the figure with AS ignore the cover provided by the terrain? How about cover provided by other characters?

Actually the way the ability was worded allows you to bypass the effects of stealth.


Stealth
If this character has cover, it does not count as the nearest enemy for choosing targets if the attacker is more than 6 squares away.

Stealth works this way. Normally a character can attack an enemy with cover only if that enemy is the nearest. If this character with stealth would be the nearest enemy, the next-nearest enemy counts as the nearest instead. Follow the normal rules for cover if the character with Stealth is within 6 squares of the attacker.

This is what accurate shot does:


Accurate Shot
This character can attack an enemy with cover even if it's not the nearest enemy.

So you can target characters even if they aren't the nearest enemy. Normally when you have cover, you can only target an enemy if it is the closest one. The enemy still gains a +4 bonus to Defense from cover regardless, but you can now shoot at him/her even if you're from the edge of the map.

It doesn't counter stealth, but it allows you to shoot at characters even if they aren't the nearest legal targets. With stealth, if the character is the target of an attack greater than 6 squares it doesn't become a legal target. Accurate shot allows you to shoot at any legal target period.:grin:
Cover bonus from other characters and from low cover still count though.

You can't think of it like stealth in clix, it will get you confused. (Because in all honesty Clix is more complicated than Star Wars will ever be)

[darkjacen]

Clarifications:

Save
Many special abilities and force powers require a save against a listed number to avoid or reduce any adverse effect. Rol a D20/ If the result of the roll equals or exceeds the listed number, the save succeeds.

If the rules text simply says "save" plus a number, the target of the effect makes a save. Sometimes the acting character makes the save instead. In that case, the rules text specifies that the character producing the effect makes the save.


I went over the manual again recently and realized that some of the save rolls we've been making in free plays were not correctly done. Often we've interpreted them to completely save a character from damage and effects. But based on the text, what the save roll for is not always damage and effects. Depending on where the save was indicated it either is for damage OR effects.

For Example, take Vader's Apprentice Unleashed's Force Power, force lightning 4:

Force Lightning 4 Force 4: replaces attacks, range 6; 50 damage to target. Huge or smaller characters are considered activated this round; save 16.


When making the save, it is not to prevent 50 damage, but to prevent the effect of activating characters. The same goes for several other force powers that have effects like this, Master Kota's Force Repulse 5. Obi-wan unleashed's force repulse 3 and so on; damage is not prevented on a save, the side effect that goes with the damage is.


However let's take another example Rebel Vanguard's Missiles:
Missiles 30 Replaces attacks: sight; 30 damage to target and to each character adjacent to that target; save 11.


The save here is not against any other effect other than damage. The same can be said for the special ability grenades:


Grenades 10 Replaces attacks; range 6; 10 damage to target and to each character adjacent to that target; save 11.


This is a bit more confusing, but to know what the save roll is for I suggest looking closely at where "save 6/11/16 etc..." is placed in the text of a power. It becomes a bit clearer then.

[clixboy]

Thanks anton for clearing that up :)

Which makes master Kota very dangerous hehe so I need to get me a kota as well (for my rebels haha)

[stevenrogers]

Yes, the Kota Bomb is sooo deadly as you experienced kanina...grabe, nothing you threw stood up to Master Kota and Vader's Apprentice!!! Hindi na makatao yan!!! (buti na lang ill have both by December thru the kindness of Mickey Mouse):devious:
But...he was defeated by my borrowed armies led by Bane and Nihilus...Darth Nihilus Rules!!!* Long Live the Sluts eerrr Siths pala!!!
*Which i Might be Selling for a non-reasonable price!!!:laugh:

[clixboy]

haha seriously si darth bane mahirap kalaban lalo na pag jedi ka dudurugin ka talaga nun... imagine 100 dmg in one swing haha pero may tactic na akong na formulate to counter the kota bomb hehe

[stevenrogers]

hwekhwekwek, Kahoun infestation lang katapat nyan plus ung parating ko na power fig which i dub Darth Pubic muna para secret :devious:...Kota, your days are numbered!!! :laugh:

[clixboy]

hehe darth bane lang tapos agad si kota haha

pero I believe kota is really powerful, wag lang tatapat sa vapaad mace windu yan....

[stevenrogers]

Mace who?? Isa pa yan sa na Kahoun Infestation last Monday and got finished off by Bobo PeKs missiles!!! :laugh: ...but that Windu is really a big headache pag nagamit ng maayos. Range lang ang weakness and so deadly sa melee. But Bane is more than a monster pagdating sa close combat..almost auto hit sa Jedis unless mag critical miss, can use 2 different force at a single turn, 80-100 damage depending kung ano kalaban (todas any jedi in 1-2 turns!!!) at 200 hit points!!! ..potah :eek:....fortunately I have one for sale at the low low price of 800php only!!! :laugh:

[clixboy]

hehe mali lang pag gamit ko kay luke kanina letse haha, pero mas naaliw ako kay luke skyperry! haha auto crit ! at ngayon may bodyguard na cya in chewbacca!

[stevenrogers]

Heheheh, breaks of the game...Abangan nyo nlang ung secret weapon ko na itago nlang natin sa pangalang Darth Pubic!!! Kahit si Kota, Bane, Nihilus at si Tall Darth Enhansome ni Charing tataob dun!!! :cool:
Right now kahit si Haring Fubu Joel aka C.unt Dukot natatakot na sa pagdating nyan...mas Evil pa sya kay Harold!!! :laugh:

[clixboy]

omaygad! ano kaya ang ilalabas ni SexR Cons?! que horror!!

Hahahahahaha

[darkjacen]

Kota is dangerous because of his force repulse. The way Joel plays Kota is very dangerous, he's almost always on the move though his Rebel troop "taxi". I doubt that they ever thought of it used that way.

Yes it is powerful and i'll second Pat's assumption, No character should consider becoming adjacent to any Mace Windu with Vaapad. The clone strike or COTF Mace is deadly in close. Clone strike mace for Vaapad, triple attack and block, while General Windu for his Force Absorb, vaapad, shatterpoint and triple attack.:speechles

But there are two things that are more dangerous to any squad with force users, An imperial squad with Admiral Thrawn (Joel's seen this first hand c/o Nicky) and a properly built Yuuzhan Vong Squad.

But as Nicky also said before, you don't need power figs to win this game, any small fry with the proper commander effects and tactics can beat even the strongest Jedi hunter.:grin:

[clixboy]

yes anton I believe it to be true as well.... Just wait till I get my hands on that grevious commander haha

anyway Now Kota is on my top list of rebel wants buuut My priority is obi wan kenobi unleashed (rebel one) I like his abilities hehe

[haroldsoon]

ahh nag free play kayo kahapon? sayang di ako nakapunta! hehe yup malakas talaga si thrawn! buti nalang si nicky lang ang merong ganyan dito. luma na and super mahal pa kaya i doubt meron pang magkakaroon. i-ban na yang figure na yan sa tournaments! hahaha

[clixboy]

haha magkakaroon din tayo nyan kasi 7 expansions parating sakop ata ung thrawn na yan doon.... unahan nalang hahahaha

[haroldsoon]

wala pat nasa universe pa sha.. hanggang bounty hunters lang ang darating diba? hehe kung magkaka tourney na tayo ng star wars, saturday din ba? baka pwede ibang araw nalang para di sabay sa clix? hehe

[clixboy]

saturday lang ang pwede kasi pwde mag tagal sa galeria, and may clix na sa wed. At karamihan ng get together natin sa sabado nagaganap kaya yan ang pinaka favorable na oras

[darkjacen]

yes anton I believe it to be true as well.... Just wait till I get my hands on that grevious commander haha

anyway Now Kota is on my top list of rebel wants buuut My priority is obi wan kenobi unleashed (rebel one) I like his abilities hehe

Unleashed Obi? As in Obiwan with renewal and force heal? Hehe, i just don't play rebel, but yes okay siya.

[clixboy]

yup, yup, now I am looking for various republic units to complement general windu..... his commander effect is something to look forward to as well..

[clixboy]

Just read the rules for the troop cart......

You can only disembark at the beginning of the round so you cannot disembark midway in a round..... if the transport is destroyed passengers make a save of 6 if failed they are also defeated... passengers have cover while riding.. and they can attack as well...


I am trying to look into more units and clarifications and stuff hehe

[haroldsoon]

may general windu ka narin pat? mag rerepublic ka na?

[clixboy]

I plan to make republic, rebel, imperial and sith squads para hinde pareparehas lahat :)

[darkjacen]

Troop Cart
This character can transport up to 1 Large ally or 5 Small or Medium allies who end their moves adjacent to it. Remove those allies from the battle grid; they move simultaneously with this character, have cover, and are considered adjacent to it. They can make attacks, counting distance from this character.

That Part is clear enough i think.

A transported ally can return to the battle grid immediately before your first activation of the round. If this character is defeated, all transported allies are also defeated; save 6.


For those who'll ask anyway. You can put back in the map any allies on the Cart before your first activation of that round. So it is perfectly legal to put characters who rode the transport back on the map, on legal terrain. This will not count as an activation for that round so you can still do the legal one (if your the first player for that round) or two activations.

For Example.

Player A has a rebel troop cart, two rebel vanguards and an Luke Skywalker, Hoth Pilot unleashed. Player B has General Grievous, Supreme Commander and 3 Super Battle Droids.

Round 1. Player B wins initiative and opts to go first. On player A's Phase he moves his luke unto the Troop Cart. He then moves his troop cart. Both players continue activating characters until the round is over.

Round 2. Player A wins initiative and lets Player B move first. After Player B's first phase, Player A has the option of either putting Luke down on a square adjacent to the troop cart or not. This will not count as activating either character. He instead decides to keep luke on the cart, moves the cart etc.


Now if the troop cart was dealt damaged enough to KO it, The controlling player of the cart, player A has to roll a save of 6 to keep luke alive. On a failed roll Luke, regardless of how much damage he recieved if any, is also defeated.

That should be clearer.:grin:

[clixboy]

yeah now when i think about it, ang keso pala ng troop cart na to imagine sending cotf luke and an enraged wookie chewy in front of your opponent haha

[mickey mouse]

Heheheh, breaks of the game...Abangan nyo nlang ung secret weapon ko na itago nlang natin sa pangalang Darth Pubic!!! Kahit si Kota, Bane, Nihilus at si Tall Darth Enhansome ni Charing tataob dun!!! :cool:
Right now kahit si Haring Fubu Joel aka C.unt Dukot natatakot na sa pagdating nyan...mas Evil pa sya kay Harold!!! :laugh:

Mas Deadly sya kung kasama nya si pakner.....:grin:

Anybody try running Kota with R2-D2 Astromech droid? Kota can be in a republic squad, R2 tows him within 12 squares so kota doesn't have to move, then unleashed his Kota bomb.......

But seariously guys, the meta has really changed right now and you'll soon find out when you get your hands on the new sets.....

And when you test my armies when I play there sa pinas, you'll see how the meta is in SWM.......

Best Thrawn army is with Gran Raiders, Moff nyna calixte, vader unleashed, Mas ameda, and Boba mercenary. Can anyone figure out how this squad works? Pagnahulaan nyo me libreng fig coming from me....

And also Cade Skywalker with Gen. wedge antilles, Boba mercenary, Gen. dodonna, Szercka scientist, ugnaught Demolitionist (for activation) squad, killer ito. Find out why....:grin:

[clixboy]

hahaha watta dangerus army you have there.....

thrawn can now switch allies almost anywhere on the table (thanks to mas ameda) calixte can now ensure you go first in any round (pag pumalpak ung roll kay thrawn, may reroll ka pa!) itatakbo mo si boba fett agad sa kalaban dahil mas mabilis cya e may libre move cya plus flight ensures na walang hahadlang sa pag lapit nya.... at pag malapit na cya pede mo na iswap ung gran raiders or worst yet si vader!!! chop chop squad ika nga! eto pa mga gran raiders mo +3 sa atack at def at +10 dmg laban sa stealthed characters haha

[darkjacen]

Mas Deadly sya kung kasama nya si pakner.....:grin:

Anybody try running Kota with R2-D2 Astromech droid? Kota can be in a republic squad, R2 tows him within 12 squares so kota doesn't have to move, then unleashed his Kota bomb.......

But seariously guys, the meta has really changed right now and you'll soon find out when you get your hands on the new sets.....

And when you test my armies when I play there sa pinas, you'll see how the meta is in SWM.......

Best Thrawn army is with Gran Raiders, Moff nyna calixte, vader unleashed, Mas ameda, and Boba mercenary. Can anyone figure out how this squad works? Pagnahulaan nyo me libreng fig coming from me....

And also Cade Skywalker with Gen. wedge antilles, Boba mercenary, Gen. dodonna, Szercka scientist, ugnaught Demolitionist (for activation) squad, killer ito. Find out why....:grin:

Your Moff Nyna Squad is scary. To be blunt it's a Super Stealth team thanks to Nyna's CE. Mas Ameda for His booming Voice to fix the low range of the CEs. Key here is Thrawn's Switch CE...yikes. Who cares about the bonus? You let the enemy come to you and switch your big hitters when they get too close. Not one commander effect at work but 2.

I don't find the prospect of hoping to hit a Gran only to find Vader breathing down my throat inviting. What's all the more freakish is that if thrawn is within 6 range, you also have the effects of Ysalamiri. Say goodbye to Lightsaber blocks and force assisted dice roll saves. :speechles

Wow...now that's an imperial squad.

[Pusher]

Drider Sorc on steroids ba mickey? ;)

Lemme take a bite. You may not want to wait till the enemy comes to you so you can still use Vader's force powers. Thanks to Amedda, 2 allies of Thrawn can switch position from anywhere in the map. Move one raider up close then switch Vader in to attack, and keep one raider at the back for Vader's retreat. All these while you plink away with Boba.

May lugar pa ba sa meta yung mga Republic Jedi Masters like Windu, Yoda, and Obi?

[mickey mouse]

Drider Sorc on steroids ba mickey? ;)

Lemme take a bite. You may not want to wait till the enemy comes to you so you can still use Vader's force powers. Thanks to Amedda, 2 allies of Thrawn can switch position from anywhere in the map. Move one raider up close then switch Vader in to attack, and keep one raider at the back for Vader's retreat. All these while you plink away with Boba.

May lugar pa ba sa meta yung mga Republic Jedi Masters like Windu, Yoda, and Obi?


Yup tama kayong lahat Clixboy, darkjacen, and Pusher.

With Thrawn's master tactitian, Boba Mercenary get's his Cunning attack off, and even if I roll a one on a D20 dice, I still can re-roll it thanks to Moff Nyna's recon ability.

With this army, I can even negate super stealth with Vader's force sense so Boba Mercenary can target them with accurate shot. And Vader too can target enemies that have cloacked, because his light saber throw 5 ignores cover so basically any enemy fig is a legal target as long as Vader has line of sight to the enemy (ala accurate shot)....

So kayong tatlo ay may libreng rare or 10 uncommons from me when I attend one of your SWM tourneys there....

Yung Republic Jedi Masters are mostly paired up with the new obi-wan from the clone wars starter set and winning map that has lots of cover helps a lot. But I won't consider them as championship material (imho)...

[Pusher]

So kayong tatlo ay may libreng rare or 10 uncommons from me when I attend one of your SWM tourneys there....

Ayos! thanks! :grin:

[sayoman]

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[clixboy]

woah salamas!

[stevenrogers]

Yup tama kayong lahat Clixboy, darkjacen, and Pusher.


Yeah, these 3 guys really know SWM...almost makes me envious...I dont know much about most figs here sadly..I just know how to play a bit, had I not played DDM I wouldve been so lost..Thanks to Elou and the rest of the DnD community.:grin:

But be it as it may...strategy pa rin ang magdadala sa yo to win a tourney even what game pa yan. Ive seen Harold (and yes, Even Xandy) win against people with more powerful figs simply with an almost "fun" team. This also happened sa DDM skirmishes with Charlon and his so-so team na mostly borrowed pa. :laugh:

Although mas broken ang figs ng SWM kesa Clix (IMO lang ha?)...figs will not always automatically grant victory to a player. Strategy still has a good place in this game.
...although SWM power figs, when used by a vet, will go a long way to ensuring a win. :speechles

[mickey mouse]

Updated with lowered prices !!

Extra figs ko mga kabayan, pero December 28 pa uwi sa pinas, malapit na po!!!!

Figs and cards are in mint condition, some figs are still bagged....

Prices are per figure !!

VR haves:
Boba Fett, mercenary (both re-served)***
Darth Caedus 1.5k
Cade Skywalker (reserved)***
Jango fett Bounty hunter x2 1.2k each
Mira 1k
Emperor Roan Fel 1k
Exar Kun (re-served)***
Darth Talon 1k
Darth Malak 1k
Darth Sidious Hologram x2 1k each
Ashoka Tano 800
Leia Organa Solo Jedi Knight 1k
Leia Organa, senator 500 pesos
Wolf Sazen 700 pesos
Luke Skywalker, force spirit x2 500 pesos each
Moff morlish veed x2 300 pesos each

Rares haves:
Han Solo galactic hero x2 500 pesos each
Bao-Dur x2 400 pesos each
Zayne-Carrick 300 pesos
General wedge Antilles (reserved)***
Visas Marr 400 pesos
Barriss Offee Jedi Knight x4 400 pesos each (1 reserved)***
Captain Panaka (reserved)***
Odd Ball x2 300 pesos each
Commander Gree 300 pesos
General Dodonna 500 pesos
Han Solo Smuggler 500 pesos
Jarael 400 pesos
Zaalbar 300 pesos
Gha Nachkt x2 200 pesos each
Lumiya, the dark lady 500 pesos
Kazdan Paratus 400 pesos
Mission Vao 300 pesos
K-3PO x3 300 pesos each
Mace windu Jedi Master (clone wars battle pack) 500 pesos
Uggernaut x2 300 pesos each
Jagged fel 300 pesos
Juno Eclipse x3 300 pesos each
Zaalbar 300 pesos

Dami rin pong commons and uncommons pero newer sets nga lang....

[mickey mouse]

Yeah, these 3 guys really know SWM...almost makes me envious...I dont know much about most figs here sadly..I just know how to play a bit, had I not played DDM I wouldve been so lost..Thanks to Elou and the rest of the DnD community.:grin:

But be it as it may...strategy pa rin ang magdadala sa yo to win a tourney even what game pa yan. Ive seen Harold (and yes, Even Xandy) win against people with more powerful figs simply with an almost "fun" team. This also happened sa DDM skirmishes with Charlon and his so-so team na mostly borrowed pa. :laugh:

Although mas broken ang figs ng SWM kesa Clix (IMO lang ha?)...figs will not always automatically grant victory to a player. Strategy still has a good place in this game.
...although SWM power figs, when used by a vet, will go a long way to ensuring a win. :speechles


What I've notice in SWM is that it usually boils down on your squad's synergy, this is why commons and uncommons in SWM can be really dangerous. And for the most part, activation control helps you kinda see what your opponents are planning to do or go, and last most important key is initiative control, unlike other minis game wher you roll only once for initiative, here in SWM, there's a lot of figs that has recon and 2 figs that have master tactitian namely Thrawn and Darth Revan....

Ooops, I guess D&D has the new champion rule where you can roll 2 D20 dice....

[haroldsoon]

buti nalang karamihan sa mga figures na pinost ni mickey mouse mahirap hanapin dito so i guess mejo pantay pa ang playing field kasi mahirap makabuo ng championship team like that! hehe

[stevenrogers]

Yup, although with the parating na raw na cases ng SWM malamang bumaha ng mga ganyang mga figs dito...and the guy who can buy the most will have control of these "strategic" and all too powerful SWMs.
But fear not Darth Pubic Harold, all you need to do is concentrate on what figs you have or can purchase and think more on strategy and synergy.
...that should be enuff to win kahit mejo madugo ang dadaanan mo. :devious:

Thanks to Mikey Mouse ulet for giving me a chance to get some good DnD and SWM minis.:cool:

[mickey mouse]

buti nalang karamihan sa mga figures na pinost ni mickey mouse mahirap hanapin dito so i guess mejo pantay pa ang playing field kasi mahirap makabuo ng championship team like that! hehe

To be honest, in every tourney like SWM, tapat-tapat lang yan. If let say you faced a squad that your squad counters then good for you. Then this really good squad faces the counter squad na tatalo sa squad nya then, sa next round you might not face him and so on....

That squad I posted that has super stealth is easily beatable by the newer ifgs. Like Leia of Cloud city canuse her force sense that cancels stealth therefore allowing your shooters to target the gran raiders and without the gran raiders, that squad is not going to function well...

So don't be discourage, as I've mentioned, there's a lot of meta squads you can build from the new sets that you don't even have to buy or look for the older figs, although it's fun to have lots of squad variations that you can play if you have those guys.....:grin:

[clixboy]

hehe thats why i love my rebel commandos led by their rebel commando leader hehehe, d mo sila pede tirahin unless katabi mo talaga :)

[darkjacen]

Yup tama kayong lahat Clixboy, darkjacen, and Pusher....So kayong tatlo ay may libreng rare or 10 uncommons from me when I attend one of your SWM tourneys there....

Thanks!:grin:

Yung Republic Jedi Masters are mostly paired up with the new obi-wan from the clone wars starter set and winning map that has lots of cover helps a lot. But I won't consider them as championship material (imho)...

We've yet to get our share of the new sets here. (Although malapit na yun) And to be honest none of us have had the chance to play a SWM tourny. We'll have our first when the new stuff arrives.

But i expect great things from the new obi. (pricey though for 55 points) but that CE is just something. I just wish that Count Dooku of Serenno had a CE. While it's nice to have him as an anti-melee unit, malamang hindi siya yung magiging base ng separatist teams ko.:noid:

Super Stealth's good yes, but there are a lot of pieces that have force sense. Heck pwede din yung imperials na may It's a Trap. Remove stealth from the picture and it can be beat.

@Cons,
Favor lang, stop with the Darth Pubic thingy. That's easily identifiable sa realms. I don't want to get warned because of that.

[stevenrogers]

Why so serious Anton? Its me who said Darth Pubic remember?..not you..Ako mawa warningan if ever,so chill out.:cool:
...are people here in SWM Realms, hosted by HCRealms, so stiff that a little joke or 2 would not be allowed by our moderators? I've seen some threads more malicious and "greener" and yet it's still ok with the mods I know...yes, I do have some good friends na moderator natin sa realms.

So be cool people, hindi naman lahat ng tao pwedeng maging seryoso diba?...Variation is a part of who we all are...this still is a Heroclix community trying to start a Star Wars gaming system last time I checked.

This game should appeal to all not just a few...that's how Heroclix made it so big coz we all adjusted to varied individuals who wanted to play Clix. Now sa SWM, do we make it too stiff and make it appeal and playable only to a few seiously "elite" individuals or follow Heroclix's example and promote it to many?

Personally, Id rather play SWM with a happy Monday group at King Joel's office than at a stiff normal/supported tourney no matter how appealing the prizes are.

And I am talking like a Heroclix Judge here imparting some knowledge on how we started, grew and maintained Clix through the years.
...think about it guys.

[ticky2]

Personally, Id rather play SWM with a happy Monday group at King Joel's office than at a stiff normal/supported tourney no matter how appealing the prizes are.



I love our Happy Mondays at Bossing Joel's office. The privacy, the space, the competition. Tapos may pa-chibog pa (Thanks Bossing!) MyY only regret is that I couldn't join you guys as often as I want to.

Bossing, meron ba tayo this coming Monday. Tamang tama, holiday ito! :cool:

Of course, tourney play will encourage us to play more competitively. It'll probably even help us brush up on the rules and intricacies of the game. So I am likewise looking forward to the day of our first sanctioned tourney :) And with the heroclix pillars spearheading SWM, I think we have a pretty decent future ahead of us.

Thanks pala to mickey mouse for putting a wide and excellent selection of figs, and at very reasonable prices, on the market.

[haroldsoon]

o guys anu to? chillax lang tayo! :) i don't think there was any malicious intent with whatever was said.. it was all said in the spirit of fun since we don't have much SWM stuff to talk about kasi wala pa tayong tourneys or figures. let's all just enjoy and be friends in this thread!

[haroldsoon]

Thanks pala to mickey mouse for putting a wide and excellent selection of figs, and at very reasonable prices, on the market.

Agree!:grin:

[ticky2]

I have a question pala re Prince Xizor and his interface with figures with the Black Sun ability.

Prince Xizor has a commander effect that grant allies with Grenades 10, Grenades 20 instead.

On the other hand, figures with the Black Sun ability gain Grenades 10 if they are in the same team as a character whose name contains Xizor or Vigo.

Does this mean that any Black Sun characters in the same team as Xizor will have Grenades 20?

[stevenrogers]

For Sale or Trade:

- Han Solo on SnowTrooper Armor (A and E)
- Aurra Sing Separatist (A and E)

[ticky2]

For sale trade

Han Solo on Tauntaun, VR, Alliance & Empire
Luke on Tauntaun, Hoth Playset
Rebel Trooper w/ Atgar Cannon, Hoth Playset
Ki-Adi-Mundi, R, Clone Strike

[clixboy]

hahhaha well, a little fun would not be that bad :) but we should set a parameter of sort para naman hinde mailang ung ibang nagnanais na sumali satin :)

While I do agree on having fun and stuff as well as playing comfortably in our venue of choice, let's not forget that tourney play is where we advertise our beloved game and this is where we promote HEALTHY competition.. and to further enhance our knowledge of game rules and to identify rules issues as well as game balances AND also supporting our local regular tourneys so we can support our local distributor and increase our player base as well as our friend base. SWM is a fun game both for hard core and casual gamers.

Now back to our regular programming... really hope our stuff arrives this weekend nang masimulan na natin ang bakbakan haha

[clixboy]

I have:

Luke skywalker Hero of Yavin

[stevenrogers]

Thats what I said...a little joke or two wouldnt hurt diba?:)..I doubt if I said anything too much naman in this beloved SWM Thread to truly merit the ire of moderators.
Any game would be so fun to play pag magaang ang feeling like Monday freeplays...competitive wise,well siguro naman our skills will speak for itself no matter what the figs we use. We could attract more potential players if we make this a friendly as well as a competitive community that understands the diversity of each individual...this in the long run will help the game survive and even grow.
Promote fun, and you make the game more interesting and worth joining.

Now back to the regular programming...Im selling many of my SWM figs to potential players who wants to join the game. I have good Rebel led by (Han Solo, Lea, Cart, etc) and Republic Armies that can help you to level the playing fields.
Contact me : 0917 8676959
...and lets play SWM freeplays on Wednesdays too, for all you guys to get more acquainted with the rules and strategies. :grin:

[clixboy]

hala nag plug ba naman ng figures tong si cons hahahaha oi oi bago yan antayin muna nating dumating ang mga boosters haha

[darkjacen]

Wow...nag sales plug na si cons.:laugh:

Re: name calling you have to understand, this is a Star Wars Minis thread on a Heroclix website, it won't be so hard to snuff this out from the forums if they wanted to. I just want to avoid that scenario. Again no disrespect meant, i'm sure you understand that.:grin:

P.S. (Did it sound that serious?:noid:)

[clixboy]

well I guess it can't be helped that this is a clix forum but then again since CMG realms is still kaput everyone else is using this place as a tavern of sorts :) hahaha

[mickey mouse]

I have a question pala re Prince Xizor and his interface with figures with the Black Sun ability.

Prince Xizor has a commander effect that grant allies with Grenades 10, Grenades 20 instead.

On the other hand, figures with the Black Sun ability gain Grenades 10 if they are in the same team as a character whose name contains Xizor or Vigo.

Does this mean that any Black Sun characters in the same team as Xizor will have Grenades 20?

Yup, they do....

Unless, the fig that has the Black sun ability is a commander....

[clixboy]

yup as long as the black sun guys are not commanders they can benefit from "different" commander effects, but if 2 effects of the same kind are in effect the one with the highest value goes to effect they do not stack :)

[chucklee]

Guys, I'm assembling a rebel-fringe army. If you have tradables, please PM me your lists. Looking for Rebel and Fringe faction figs only. Thanks. :)

[haroldsoon]

May question ulit ako.. si chadra fan pickpocket may opportunist which gives him +4 attack +10 damage to activated characters. Si Han solo on Tauntaun has cunning attack which gives him the bonus against characters which have not activated.

So ang question: If an opposing character breaks away from both Chadra fan and han solo, who gets to use the bonus? Chadra fan because the opposing character is activating or Han solo because the character will be activating palang?

[clixboy]

the moment na gumalaw ka na considered activated ka na....si chadra ang may bonus since at the start palang ng turn mo activated ka na pag decided na ung character na aalis ang igagalaw

[haroldsoon]

ah okay thanks pat.. :)

regarding collation naman, diba yung force unleashed 6 boosters in a case? ilang VR ang nandun? yung legacy of the force naman diba 12 boosters in a case? ilang VR naman ang nandun? and complete na ba ang R UC C sa 12 booster case? gusto ko kasi mag force unleashed pero parang di sulit kung mejo same price sa isang 12 booster case. hehe

[darkjacen]

Harold,

I'll tell you what i've been telling Conrad since we started SWM. Choose specific factions to play or collect. If you decide to be a complete-ist you'll soon notice how fast your wallet will shrink. SWM is an expensive hobby. If you try to complete the VR, R, UC, C in a set be prepared to buy more than 1 case.:noid:

And honestly we wouldn't have the data re: case collation. I mean when we got into this there weren't cases anymore, just random boosters.:laugh: Try asking Mickey Mouse he might know.:classic:

[mickey mouse]

ah okay thanks pat.. :)

regarding collation naman, diba yung force unleashed 6 boosters in a case? ilang VR ang nandun? yung legacy of the force naman diba 12 boosters in a case? ilang VR naman ang nandun? and complete na ba ang R UC C sa 12 booster case? gusto ko kasi mag force unleashed pero parang di sulit kung mejo same price sa isang 12 booster case. hehe

Sa huge set (6 boosters in a case) it's almost guaranteed 2VR and 4 Rares.

Sa small set (12 boosters in a case) it's almost guaranteed 4VR and 8 Rares.

[mickey mouse]

Sa huge set (6 boosters in a case) it's almost guaranteed 2VR and 4 Rares.

Sa small set (12 boosters in a case) it's almost guaranteed 4VR and 8 Rares.

In some sets like Clone Wars, VRs are bunched together, you may find a case of Clone Wars containing Yoda on Kybuck, and Anakin on Stap. The other bunch comes with Sidious Hologram and Gen Grievous Droid Army Commander in the case.

[haroldsoon]

Harold,

I'll tell you what i've been telling Conrad since we started SWM. Choose specific factions to play or collect. If you decide to be a complete-ist you'll soon notice how fast your wallet will shrink. SWM is an expensive hobby. If you try to complete the VR, R, UC, C in a set be prepared to buy more than 1 case.:noid:

And honestly we wouldn't have the data re: case collation. I mean when we got into this there weren't cases anymore, just random boosters.:laugh: Try asking Mickey Mouse he might know.:classic:

Yup that's why I want to focus on Force Unleashed because it has a lot of rebels and imperials. :) if I buy a case of that, I think i can use 80% of what I will get.

[haroldsoon]

Thanks for the tip mickeymouse!

But are the prices for a case of the huge set and the small set equal (or almost equal)?

[clixboy]

for those of you interested, may freeplay tyo ng SWM tom sa gale at 1pm! seeya!

[clixboy]

@harold prices ng cases are almost equal actually.... wether a case of huge pack or regular booster case konti lng difference

[stevenrogers]

Oh my goodness I have seen everything!!! Just this afternoon I saw Darth Public (with a silend L) Harold the Devil Worshiper defeating Emperor PalPATine Juppy 3x!!!:speechles

Leche, katapusan na ng mundo!!!:laugh:

[darkjacen]

SWM brand manager Sarah Richely and Lead designer Rob Watkins Live chat transcript (http://www.atlantaswg.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57:live-chat-transcript&catid=34:swm&Itemid=29)

It took me some time looking for this but the transcript shows that the initiative ruling that we've tried to follow isn't an actual legal ruling. It wasn't stated on the new manual or on the erratas on WOTC that there is only 1 activation for the first player per round.


‹Fool› This one comes from Bill:
‹Fool› #9) Rob: What was the thinking behind not changing the initiative rule at this time? Are we likely to see it in the future, and if so when and how?
‹WotC_Rob› What made you think I was thinking about changing or not changing initiative?
‹Fool› I read on a post on the WotC by a user there (I think Ulic Qel-Droma) about a "new initiative rule". Basically, it outlined that at the start of every phase the person going first was to activate one rather then 2.
‹WotC_Rob› Sweet, a question based on a rumor that someone posted on the internet!
‹WotC_Rob› Now... that being said...
‹Fool› Rumors abound! Sorry about that guys
‹WotC_Rob› My desire is to make the best game play experience possible.
‹WotC_Rob› The Dungeons and Dragons Miniatures game has certainly borrowed many ideas from Star Wars Miniatures, and vice versa.
‹Fool› Right, to my understanding that rule applies there. Understood, that we'll move along away from that topic for now.
‹Fool› Speaking of D & D: here is a question for Sarah from Grambo
‹WotC_Rob› We've been testing it internally, but are not prepared to go one way or another at this time.
‹Fool› #15) Sarah Is the change in DDM's going to affect SWM? If so, how?
‹WotC_Rob› The first place you are likely to see a change in the initiative rules would be during an update of the DCI floor rules for SWM.


I've sent the same link to Pat, hopefully we'll hear from him soon.

[clixboy]

@anton yup read that one pretty well haha naisahan tyo ah!

HOLY CRAPTASTIC! yea galing ni harold! He was truly one with the force (dark side nga lang)! All his wins were led by lord vader himself!! ripped my armies kanina!

Si cons kasi e malakas ang dark side powers nya kaya pati si harold lalong nalubong sa kaitiman ng budhi ni cons! hahahhahaha

[stevenrogers]

@anton yup read that one pretty well haha naisahan tyo ah!

HOLY CRAPTASTIC! yea galing ni harold! He was truly one with the force (dark side nga lang)! All his wins were led by lord vader himself!! ripped my armies kanina!

Si cons kasi e malakas ang dark side powers nya kaya pati si harold lalong nalubong sa kaitiman ng budhi ni cons! hahahhahaha


Oi oi, hindi galing sa kin dork powers nyan no? Maitim na talaga budhi nyan nuon pa!!. :laugh:
...ako nga naimpluwensyahan ng mas madilim na force na itago nlang natin sa pangalang Count Dukot Eliotblacknight...:speechles
...and si Harold naman ang Slut apprentice nyang si Ventress!!! :laugh:

[clixboy]

hahahay! sino kaya un! nakow harold tsk tsk!

[haroldsoon]

hahahah chamba chamba!:) pero alam niyo magandang idea naman yung 1 activation lang pag nanalo ng initiative diba? mas lalo ka mapapaisip.. i suggest we keep it. :)

yung isang win ko pala gamit republic hindi puro darth vader ah! haha

[darkjacen]

hahahah chamba chamba!:) pero alam niyo magandang idea naman yung 1 activation lang pag nanalo ng initiative diba? mas lalo ka mapapaisip.. i suggest we keep it. :)


The only reason we followed DnD's 1 activation per first round was because we were led to believe that it was a change going to be implemented by Clone Wars. Since it's apparently not true i have to say that I'm not going to follow it.:grin:

Haha Harold if you want you can use it pero ako i'll switch back to the legal 2 activations:laugh:.

It's limiting and although it does make you think more, it handicaps the opponent more than you know:cross-eye. (Lalo na kung yung initiative rolls mo are anything like mine:laugh:)