Figures Done right

[VanceMadrox]

On these boards here we hear a lot of complaint about figures that weren't done quite right. I've aprticipated in it myself, custom dials are fun to make. In this thread though I want to discuss the figures that were made just as you think they should have been.

Personally I'll nominate the following:

Vision
Nick Fury
Wasp

and Vulture.

More later, but let's get some discussion going!

Vance

[Jean_genie]

I mostly agree. I don't agree about the Wasp, only because the rules allow for her to carry people, which she clearly can't - and it's not even a stregth issue. I've read Marvel Handbook entries that say that Wasp get stronger as she gets smaller, and in her 2" size she can "bend steel bars." Not possible. She would just be too small to get her arms in a good position to do it! Similarly, even if Wasp *could* find a good place to carry Cyclops, that'd mean that there would be 190 pounds of pressure (or whatever he weighs) baring down on one little tiny area the size of Wasp's hands. Clothes would rip, and wonder if that'd be enough pressure to actually break skin; I bet it would. Yeah, even with "Comic Book Physics", Wasp still can't carry :)

I think that even with all the bellyachin;, Thor was done well. Sure there was more to do, but short of "spinning his hammer really fast and opening a portal", I don't think anything could be put into clix terms anyway. Plus I always thought the portal thing was lame anyway.

Spiral seems good. Although a friend mentioned "Don't you think it would be a bad thing to have 6 arms and to be all furious? Think she ever hurts herself?"

R and E White Queen seem to reflect the character well.

Cyclops as his glass jaw are well-reflected too. I was bothered by the lack of Leadership on his Exp and Vet versions, but then I remebered that half all the people that have ever been X-men either disliked him as leader, or just didn't pay much attention. Plus he was never much one for battlefield tactics, or even for teaching or training people .... he was just the most outspoken guy; the figurehead.

I think the best representation is definitely Vision though. Not only that, but he's easily one of my favourite figures, as his powers are all balanced without being tilted too far in either direction, and he has a god-like ability to just not die when you think you've killed him. Just like the character. It's the the point now where the 2 damage actually seems right to me. Plus it's really easy to work around since it's consistent .... you just make sure you carry an object in case you get based, and have Hawkeye pop off a few shots and people with Invulnerability before Vision goes at it. Even plays like the comics :)

Only question though: does Vision have heat vision, or does the ray(s) come from the jewel on his forehead? I just finished up the Vision miniseries, and I see both .....

[MarkFinn]

I've got quibbles, mostly, but I don't think that they are bad things, and they don't keep me from playing. Daredevil without leap/climb seemed like more of an oversight than a deliberate snubbing. Things like that. I'll live, you know?

I really liked how the Fantastic Four ended up (including the She-Hulk fig at the E level). I was looking forward to them and I wasn't disappointed.

Over at DC, I was pleased with how the Batman Family fared. Very satisfying to play as a team or individually.

[Vegeta1]

"I think that even with all the bellyachin;, Thor was done well. Sure there was more to do, but short of "spinning his hammer really fast and opening a portal", I don't think anything could be put into clix terms anyway."

How about a lack of 5 Damage? EVen though he's more powerful than the Hulk, Thor doesn't get it but Hulk does???

If ANYBODY got done right, it was Hulk. I mean, look at his stats. On his third click, HIS THIRD, he does 3 Damage. And he also becomes a better fighter AND faster????? Where'd that come from??

It amazes me how fans complain about Hulk.

[MarkFinn]

Well, that's the Hulk, isn't it?
"The Madder Hulk Gets, The Stronger Hulk Gets!"

Yeah, I don't see how people can complain about the Hulk, either.

[Mongoose]

Wizkids did a great job with some of the figs. These are the characters that they did well on:

Cyclops (This guy is a long range nuke. Don't whine about his RCE not being able to be used w/ running shot. He has a 10 range. Just taxi him up and kill some people).

Nightcrawler (I've heard of great things from the guy that can
teleport quickly).

Hulk (What more can I say. He gets pissed and beats people down like sissys).

Thor (The fig looks bad, but his stats are what i would give him).

Sabretooth (Done very well)

Unique Wolverine 141 (Done the way he should be created in veteran form)

Dr. Doom (A titan as far as stats, and great support piece).

[jedigeof]

Kang

####py character, ####py clix.

[The Sandman]

I would agree with this list, the only thing is lack of leadership for Cyke. I disagree with Jean_genie completely about lack of leadership reasoning. He was always considered the tactical leader. As to not being liked, how many real leaders are buddies with the people they give orders to?

[lukebuchanan]

The Red Skull was well done, I don't care what anyone says. Enchantress was another score, as well as The Hulk. And I still feel Bullseye was right on target stat wise, but he probably should have cost more. Still a great job.

LUKE SMASH

[Jean_genie]

According to Machiavelli's The Prince (yeah, I know it's god-only-knows how old, but it's always been respencted), It is better for a leader to be feared than loved - but to be a good leader, he must be one or the other. Cyclops is neither, in my mind. If I game him leadership at all, it'd be 1 click max. Sure he was the 'tactical leader', but that's only because he was the first person to shout out what everyone was thinking. Of course, that's just my opinion.

And jedigeof, Kang doesn't suck. The figure is overpriced, but he's still very powerful. And Kang(the character) is one of my favourite characters in the comics. Obviously the writers agree too, or else they wouldn't have brought him back after issue 16 or wherever he first appeared. I don't remember which issue it was, but it was with the original lineup(not counting Hulk).

[Clix776]

Originally posted by Jean_genie
According to Machiavelli's The Prince (yeah, I know it's god-only-knows how old, but it's always been respencted), It is better for a leader to be feared than loved - but to be a good leader, he must be one or the other. Cyclops is neither, in my mind. If I game him leadership at all, it'd be 1 click max. Sure he was the 'tactical leader', but that's only because he was the first person to shout out what everyone was thinking. Of course, that's just my opinion.
I'm sorry, but that's a load of horse-hockey. Cyclops formulates plans, the X-Men follow them and emerge victorious. It's the way of things. Proteus. Magneto. Moses Magnum. N'Astirh. The X-Men get wiped up when they don't listen to him, because they tend to fight as individuals instead of a team. Cyclops sees them as a team and makes them act that way. However, he is a third act leader (i.e., the X-Men run off half-cocked, get their collective rears handed to them, Cyclops corrects them and they emerge victorious), so I would save Leadership for the final clicks of his dial, perhaps the last 2 clicks (he's a 5-click dial, right?).

Characters done right... Dr. Doom in any incarnation. Thor. Say what you will about his laundry list of powers, he likes to hit things and his figure does that nicely, hurling Mjolnir everywhere. It helps to recall that these figures can be reflective of how the character acts, as well as the powers. Mandroid Armor is good. Pyro is nice. Darkseid is quite good, loaded to bear with powers and with a high defense for his set (that is, in comparison to his own universe, he is a hard man to hit).

Have a Great Day,
Gary E. Poisson