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Clixreborn
10/30/2009, 01:01
Can someone please tell me the ruling of haymaker on a character with indominable like power man & iron fist...do you take the clix of damage or you don't?
spike1138
10/30/2009, 01:13
Power Man & Iron Fist would not take the push damage. They also aren't subject to the -1 to their attack because they possess the :a-duo: symbol, not the :a-fist: symbol as shown on the card (http://www.hcrealms.com/units/mmF003.jpg).

EDIT: This post (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3888967&postcount=13) should be helpful.
UniqueLoginNamor
10/30/2009, 12:17
PM&IF with Haymaker is cheese on a stick but it does work: +2 damage, no attack mod, no pushing damage.
Good thing they can't Duo attack with it.
Contingency Plan
10/30/2009, 14:38
Both Spike and Namor are right.

PM and IF are amazing when Haymaker is attached. Gives them yet another attack option.
gbeaver
10/30/2009, 15:41
What a sick combo.
lancelot
10/30/2009, 15:42
I thought PM & IF wouldn't meet the prereq to use the feat because they don't possess the :a-fist: symbol, but the :a-duo: symbol. Is this not true?

Haymaker says "choose a character" and doesn't have the fist pre-req; the fist is there for the -1 modifier to AV but since they're a Duo, it doesn't apply.

Same reason why Shellhead doesn't work on Indomitable figures.
gbeaver
10/30/2009, 15:44
Yeah, I just rechecked the card and realized that. That's just awesome. Do you think that with the new set, WK will fix the indomitable loophole with feat cards?
Harpua
10/30/2009, 15:51
Yeah, I just rechecked the card and realized that. That's just awesome. Do you think that with the new set, WK will fix the indomitable loophole with feat cards?

I doubt that would happen.

The symbol issue has actually existed since Mutant Mayhem was released.

You could assign Haymaker to the Sentinel. Of course, in that case, you'd get no damage bonus and take a -1 to attack, but it was a good way to push Dark Phoenix past her Jean clicks.

As to Indomitable and the feats which say "pushing damage which cannot be ignored by Willpower or team abilities"...well, I wouldn't hold my breath.

That issue existed since the release of Justice League and Endurance.
Mortometer
10/30/2009, 15:53
Earth 2 Superman also couldnīt take the pushing damage of Haymaker because of his trait right.
Harpua
10/30/2009, 16:08
Earth 2 Superman also couldnīt take the pushing damage of Haymaker because of his trait right.

correct
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The_Sound_Of_Animals
10/30/2009, 16:14
correct
...

wow, 400 points just got uglier and 9 points free <shudder>

Build
317 CR100 Superman
25 AVF003 Fortitude
10 MMF003 Haymaker
8 MUF102 Protected
31 UI073 Jean Grey
391
Harpua
10/30/2009, 16:28
wow, 400 points just got uglier and 9 points free <shudder>

Build
317 CR100 Superman
25 AVF003 Fortitude
10 MMF003 Haymaker
8 MUF102 Protected
31 UI073 Jean Grey
391
DISQUALIFIED!!!

CHEATER!!!

The 10% feat rule has been exceeded.
The_Sound_Of_Animals
10/30/2009, 16:34
DISQUALIFIED!!!

CHEATER!!!

The 10% feat rule has been exceeded.

hrm... ok. I like this better anyway :laugh:

317 CR100 Superman
25 AVF003 Fortitude
10 MMF003 Haymaker
31 UI073 Jean Grey
19 SN016 Mockingbird
400
Quebbster
10/30/2009, 16:37
hrm... ok. I like this better anyway :laugh:

317 CR100 Superman
25 AVF003 Fortitude
10 MMF003 Haymaker
31 UI073 Jean Grey
19 SN016 Mockingbird
400
YOur math fu is weak. That team comes to 402 points.
The_Sound_Of_Animals
10/30/2009, 16:39
YOur math fu is weak. That team comes to 402 points.

odd, I ran it in the Units section... just can't trust the internet anymore ;)

Build
317 CR100 Superman
31 UI073 Jean Grey
25 AVF003 Fortitude
10 MMF003 Haymaker
13 UN001 DEO Agent
396
2 Gun Kid
10/30/2009, 16:56
Hell yeah I run Haymaker on Amanda Waller all the time. Suckers fear my Contingency Planning Pistol Whipping Big Mamma!
Harpua
10/30/2009, 17:11
odd, I ran it in the Units section... just can't trust the internet anymore ;)

Build
317 CR100 Superman
31 UI073 Jean Grey
25 AVF003 Fortitude
10 MMF003 Haymaker
13 UN001 DEO Agent
396

I'd put Fortitude and Haymaker on Superman instead of Jean, but that's just me, I guess.
Hero_guy
10/30/2009, 17:49
I'd put Fortitude and Haymaker on Superman instead of Jean, but that's just me, I guess.

Lol...darn it. I was going to post the exact same thing but work got in the way. :p
The_Sound_Of_Animals
10/30/2009, 18:00
I'd put Fortitude and Haymaker on Superman instead of Jean, but that's just me, I guess.

but I NEED my tk
Rurouni KJS
10/30/2009, 18:41
but I NEED my tk

FEH!!!! Why bother with Jean?

E2 Superman 317
+ Fortitude 25
+ Haymaker 10
R Mandroid Armor 28
R Mockingbird 19
= 399 points. Sit back and shoot from 12 squares out until they have to close in.