Xplosion Sneak Peek : Iron Man

[Draddog]

<TABLE BORDER="0"><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Name:</B> Iron Man<BR><B>Number:</B> 082–084<BR><B>Play Tip:</B> The Golden Avenger is a combat machine! He starts off with Ranged Combat Expert, Energy Explosion, Toughness, and Running Shot. Let him soak up some damage, and Tony tweaks his armor a bit and it gains close combat powers like Charge, Super Strength, and Invulnerability. Finally, on his last click, he gains a click of jury-rigging Regeneration, enabling him to go all the way back to the top of his close-combat slots, the best on his dial!<P><B>Design Notes:</B><BR>Let me just say that Iron Man is a tough character to write up. There are dozens of versions of the armor. I could do a whole set of nothing but Iron Man, so no single version of Iron Man will contain everything that it potentially could. That being said, this Iron Man represents him as he’s normally portrayed in the comics; he has powerful ranged attacks, is very mobile, and has high strength, great defense, and the ability to recover from near-certain defeat. I’d like to include other versions of the armor in future sets, so if this Iron Man isn’t <i>your</i> Iron Man, be sure to check out future sets.<P>One thing I want to point out is that Iron Man’s attack value is only slightly better than average. This was a conscious decision and represents that fact that although he has on-board computers and targeting systems, Tony is still just a fairly normal guy with no formal combat training. The armor makes him better, but not as good as a well-trained fighter.<P>Iron Man starts as a powerful, but straightforward, ranged combatant with some options that make him versatile. I’ve heard how much you all <i>love</i> the Running Shot and Ranged Combat Expert combination, but y’know, some characters have it, and Iron Man is one of them. Anyway, when you need to move and attack, you can; when you need to do some serious damage, you can; and when you need to get somewhere fast, you can. Plus he has Energy Explosion in case someone’s grouping characters together. As you might expect, Iron Man’s defense value and powers are high and tough, respectively. Invulnerability is always nice, but coupled with a 16 or 17 defense, it’s even nicer. <P>After a few clicks of damage, Iron Man changes tactics. His strength increases, he gets force field, and he becomes a close-combat monster on par with the other heavy hitters in the Avengers. In his tougher versions, his Invulnerability returns and he gains some Charge.<P>Near the end of the dial, his Rookie version gains Perplex and Incapacitate, which represent his ability to outthink opponents or come up with a gadget to confound them. In his tougher versions, he gains Outwit because he’s that much better at foiling villainous plans and having just the right thing in his armor to defeat them. Finally, at the very end of the dial, Tony has a single click of Regeneration to reflect those times when he reroutes some systems and boosts the armor back to fighting form--and if you roll really well, it’ll put you right at the sweet spot for close combat.</TD><TD><IMG SRC="/images/IronMan.gif"><TD></TR></TABLE>

[Manchine]

OMG

First post again but what can you say to this but OMG.

He has what? Droool!!! He has what??? Droooll!!!! Me must have armour wars!!!!!

[Kid Zemo]

Sweet! I had given up all hope! That sculpt looks REALLY Nice! OK, this makes up for Psylocke.

Kid Zemo

[four_winds]

Finally.Ironman.

[Random]

not sure about the face though.....

[Heretic]

Sweet!!

[nedleeds]

cool running shot and RCE together !!! can you give me more figs that don't work right ... idiots ... do the game designers actually know how to play the game or do they just smoke opium and whatever color rolls across their eyes they throw down in the slot?

And also what the heck is "he gets force field" ... ES/Deflection ? Or Mageknights Limited Invisibility :) wouldn't that be just chipper ... cannot be the target of ranged attacks ...

[ShortyNoGood]

NICE!

[Rufio]

weee! i <3 iron man, he sounds sexy in miniture form

[ShortyNoGood]

Can anybody see how many points he cost?

[mark6574]

Originally posted by ShortyNoGood
Can anybody see how many points he cost?

If I had to guess I would say it look slike 189 for his veteran version.

This also proves thie Twinz pineapple is incorrect, because they have Iron Man as 76-78.

[justincredible]

who do you think his arch nemesis is going to be ?

[LivingTribunal]

I just soiled my pants!!!!!!!!!!!! March is too far away!

[spawn10]

I wonder if they will ever incorporate more DC powers into Marvel. When the "close combat" stats were brought up, I thought maybe Close Combat Expert might be on there. I'm just wondering if they will do that for Iron Fist (if he ever comes out).

[Brigadier M]

Can anybody make out his point cost? Looks like 189 to me. What does that bring the Avengers up to, about 1600pts?

M!

[Kid Zemo]

I will be interested to see how different that AE base looks compared to Flash's in real life.

I agree - RCE and Running Shot is such a disappointing combo, but at least he has EExplosion in the event you need to Running Shot! More 'Last-ditch' Outwit That's getting kinda common in Marvel. First click Outwit remains elusive . . .

Kid Zemo (who is looking forward to Iron Man's AE)

[hudson20]

Originally posted by Draddog
<TABLE BORDER="0"><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Name:</B> Iron Man<BR><B>Number:</B> 082–084<BR><B>Play Tip:</B>After a few clicks of damage, Iron Man changes tactics. His strength increases, he gets force field, and he becomes a close-combat monster on par with the other heavy hitters in the Avengers. </TD><TD><IMG SRC="/images/IronMan.gif"><TD></TR></TABLE>

What the Heck is "Forcefield?"

[hudson20]

Originally posted by Random
not sure about the face though.....

The face looks just right. The scuplt looks awesome.

[groovyfunk]

I think his enemy will be the Mandaorin....What do you all think? Also, can u use RCE w/ Running Shot?

[Manchine]

If they were gonna include CCE they would of mentioned it here. Sorry no mention of it so no CCE for Iron Man.

[spanishyoda]

Im guessing forcefield is deflection. I wonder who his AE will be? Someone citrusy I hope.... The sculpt rocks. Verry nice!

[hudson20]

Originally posted by mark6574


If I had to guess I would say it look slike 189 for his veteran version.

This also proves thie Twinz pineapple is incorrect, because they have Iron Man as 76-78.

This proves nothing. We've seen pictures of iron man on explosion boxes a month ago.

Also, I seriously doubt they made vet iron man more points than vet Thor. Somthing would really be wrong with that.

[quixotequest]

It looks like the Vet is 189 pts.

Seriously, is there anyone who thinks that Running Shot and RCE on the same clix is desirable? Since they ruled via FAQ since June 2002 that RCE and RS don't work together I can't figure why they'd still be putting them on the same clix. Iron Man should have some clix of RS with a good natural damage, and then some clix with a lower natural damage and RCE--but no RS.

[strucker]

Classic, Ditko-designed armor, powers out the wazoo, SCULPTED boot jets.....this is a class clix. And the third post about him is a complaint. Some people.... Anyway, can't wait to get him and glad my "Daredevil is tomorrow" thread worked! Hey, they do read the posts! Send me free clix! PM me and send me free clix!

[mark6574]

Originally posted by hudson20


This proves nothing. We've seen pictures of iron man on explosion boxes a month ago.

I just meant that they had the numbering wrong, so we don't know if there are other errors. I knew Iron Man was coming.

[Danos]

I was contemplating on whether I should spend $200+ on my first case, and after seeing Spidey and Ironman, I'm going to do it. Darn you wizkids for coming out with such great figures. That means I'll have to get that second job and do without sleep for a while.

[Heroclixrules]

Or maybe force field could be barrier. Who knows. Anyways, after seeing the number of people #####ing already, after waiting so long to see him, those who #####ed about him need to be burned alive in the middle of the Wizkids building. I mean for gods sake, first you ##### there is NO iron man, and then when you finally get him you ##### ABOUT him? For gods sake, have a soul, you wretches!

[batfink]

<<I wonder who his AE will be? >>

Gorilla Grodd?

[Noman]

Hooray.

Now, about the "face"...

What we have here looks like the "twin points" gold mask on the red helmet, which makes this the fairly early (but not very early) Avengers Iron Man. The more classic Iron Man from the middle series Iron Man comic had the more rounded or slightly "heart shaped" mask. This carried over into the post issue 100 Avengers.

On the face of it (can't believe I just typed that) this makes sense with the powers as described...this is Version 3 of the Iron Man armour, while the "powerhouse" armour from the conflicts with Stane and the Avengers battles with Thanos et al still to come...can we say "Unique" ?

It also means that the Crimson Dynamo armour will be "Version 1", in all probability, rather than the later Cyber version - as asumedly the sculptors used parralel images.

All in all, while it doesn't (IMHO) make up for Psylockstein, it is none the less a great sculpt of the golden Avenger.

All the Best

Noman

[KRoc]

Gotta be Mandarin for the arch-enemy. Does this mean Iron Man and Flash are arch-enemies?

[Manchine]

Dont understand RCE and RS is fine you choose to either shoot and do heavy damage or move and shoot. Its not that bad just becuase you dont like it.

[hudson20]

I still wanna know what the forcefield power does...

[GCSwimmer]

The only person I could think of that might be his AE if the Mandarin isn't would possibly be Crimson Dynamo. That being said, I can't wait for this line to come out!

-GCS

[shin-goji]

Originally posted by justincredible
who do you think his arch nemesis is going to be ?
I would guess Mandarin.

[Manchine]

Force Field probable does nothing except give him Invulnerability. Plain and simple.

[shin-goji]

Wow, that's all I can say. A very nice looking figure. Can't wait. I wonder why so many clix-ers are losing their mind that he has forcefield. That can be represented by Toughness or Invulnerability. Not that hard to figure out.

[mercer]

Originally posted by Manchine

First post again

God, the kind of real-world job you must have.....Anyway, Ironman is amazing and it'll be fun to see how he stacks up agains the other armored super-people: DR. DOOM and (maybe?) CRIMSON DYNAMO

[quixotequest]

Danos: Get the case. Shop around. You shouldn't have to spend, after shipping, more than $200-220.

If you like to collect Uniques, buying by the case is the only way to go. You'll definitely get at least 8 of them. And if you don't want to collect Uniques, then sell what you get and you can easily pay for the case.

[Mongoose]

Good job Wizkids. This is the way all the artwork should look. Keep em coming, and please redo Magneto.

[hudson20]

Originally posted by shin-goji

I would guess Mandarin.

Hmm Mandarin had 10 different magic rings with 10 different powers right? His dial will probably look like a rainbow.

[Annihillus]

I love the sculpt and the powers sound nice too! But does it look like to anyone else that the fig is a little too big for the typical HC scale?

[daedalus25]

I believe Mandarin would be the AE as well.

And for everyone complaining that Wizkids doesn't know what they're doing when they combine RS with RCE, did none of you take the time to READ what the designer said about that? It was intentional so that someone could have the option of moving and shooting, or standing still to shoot for massive damage. I for one think it's a fine idea. If you want to stand still and use RCE, that's fine. You'd have to do that anyway whether Running Shot was up there or not. But I like having the option of moving to take a potshot at someone just out of range or running away. It's called versatility, and that's what Iron Man is all about! ;)

[hudson20]

Originally posted by shin-goji
Wow, that's all I can say. A very nice looking figure. Can't wait. I wonder why so many clix-ers are losing their mind that he has forcefield. That can be represented by Toughness or Invulnerability. Not that hard to figure out.

Forcefield sounded like it was the name of a new power.

[falcarrion]

love it. Now thats a good looking figure. hope the rest look that good.

[SkrullAgent007]

i would love to see what his cost is
sweet character
almost makes up for the pathetic display that is psylocke,
almost

[Ghost_Rider]

He looks awesome! Although I do have a few points for other people's comments.. Arch enemy with the Flash? His base is yellow, but it's clearly a different shade. Iron Man's is more puke yellow while Flash is a bright yellow. Give Wizkids more credit sheesh.

Ghost

[Nickel97]

The arch enemy base doesn't look the same as Flash/Grodd's. Do you mistake Perplex for Support? one is a tan/gold the other yellow.

I like the RS+EE or just RCE option, and I like the fact he goes from ranger to bruiser.

[Magnito]

Just had to say, I'm so glad to see a AE base.

[pyr66]

According to "The List" Mandarin is his Arch enemy but, it could also be Crimson Dynamo so who knows for sure?

[webhead817]

First off, wow, that sculpt is awesome! The colors look great, I like the retro'ish face plate and all. It also sounds like the powers are pretty dead on as well. Regeneration on a monster like this? Wowza. And I'll take both RS and RCE thanks, I like having options. Psylocke can hitch a ride to boost his damage on the RS if need be, and there's always perplex.

[Ghost_Rider]

True, but Mandarin makes more sense.

Ghost

[Pip the Troll]

Huraaayyyy
he looks great
and they seemed to have more or less shown his powers very well
altho u know hes gonna cost a huge amount of points
lol but hwo cares cause in Heroclix the avengers can take out the JLA anyday
cheers

[shadbow]

I think the sculpt looks awesome, only thing I am worried about is if he will stand on his own or not. Sure looks like he is going to be prone to tipping over with all of his weight distributed out that far. Guess will just have to see how it is... I am guessing some are going to come more bent downwards, and never want to stand up, and will need to be straightened up some.

But it sure looks and sounds like a great piece, hope he stands up on the playground when the wind picks up though.

-shad

[StellarX]

WOW.

Iron Man has been by far the most-requested MARVEL character to appear as a clix figure. The piece is absolutely beautiful and hats off to the sculptor who has captured ol' shell-head perfectly!

Am happy with the sound of his power-spread - agree that an explanation of 'force field' would be nice - roll on March!

And just how great is that pineapple?

[Beastchylde]

Darn, I was hoping far a preview of Beast. I just wanna know if he's in the set or not. Oh well. I'll keep my fingers crossed and pray to the Clix Gods. Give me a Beast.
Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...
Chant it with me people...
Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...

Seriously though, Ironman looks friggin awesome. Can't wait to do a 1000 point battle royal with the X-Men and Avengers.

[weezer_10]

Okay, from a hardcore DC fan... this is BY FAR the best sculpt I've have seen from Marvel yet.

In fact, I might even buy a few XPlosion boosters when it comes out just to see if I can get Ironman :P

[Quarantine]

Holy poo! It's Iron Man!!! I was wondering what they would give him... and I'm happy to say that he wasn't too far away from my hopes. Bring on the Manadarin!

[dolemite199]

His arch enemy base is not yellow like Flash/Grood. It is gold.

Iron Man's arch enemy will definatley be Mandrin.

I would also like to say that the "Force Field" power that was mentioned in the write up by Wizkids is most likely FORCE BLAST. This is the best way to represent his repulsor blasts.

It looks like he weighs in at an astounding 189pts for the Vet version. I noticed that someone who posted on this thread here feels that he should not cost more than Thor becuase Thor is more powerful. Well, Iron Man costs more than Thor because he has a super power on every single slot for all most every click. Thor only pays for four super powers throughtout his dial. Iron Man is paying for up to twelve different super powers at various points in his dial. I mean he has running shot, EE, toughness, RCE, charge, SS, Invulnerability, force blast (maybe), outwit, perplex, incapacitate, energy shiled/defelction (maybe), and regeneration. This is also why Dr. Doom cost so frickin much because of his super powers.

He is going to be one of the most versitle Hero Clix figures to date. He is a completely self sustaning figure. You will not even need a taxi for him. Man, its going to a joy when we can actually play with him.

[wooberhead1]

Originally posted by nedleeds
cool running shot and RCE together !!! can you give me more figs that don't work right ... idiots ... do the game designers actually know how to play the game or do they just smoke opium and whatever color rolls across their eyes they throw down in the slot?

And also what the heck is "he gets force field" ... ES/Deflection ? Or Mageknights Limited Invisibility :) wouldn't that be just chipper ... cannot be the target of ranged attacks ...

Didn't the designer remark on this? Did you not read his notes, or do you wear a helmet?
If they're such idiots, don't play the game.

[WarHULK]

I am very impressed. He sounds absolutely amazing. I'm guessing he'll have a 10 attack from the sounds of it which is decent. If we have some perplexers in the set all the better.

I'd say Ironman/Psylocke will be the new power team. Go with Vet of both. Running shot with enhancement and once Ironman is knocked into the close combat clicks charge in and drop off Psy for a little BCF action. Yeesh.

[wooberhead1]

Originally posted by Beastchylde
Darn, I was hoping far a preview of Beast. I just wanna know if he's in the set or not. Oh well. I'll keep my fingers crossed and pray to the Clix Gods. Give me a Beast.
Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...
Chant it with me people...
Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...Beast...

Seriously though, Ironman looks friggin awesome. Can't wait to do a 1000 point battle royal with the X-Men and Avengers.

Beast is in the set. No joke. You're welcome.

[Skullfire]

I agree with everyone that is saying Mandrin is his archenemy. I can back this up if I can find a certain thread. In this thread, a judge stated that he saw a preview of Mandrin with an archenemy.

[StormMaster]

!!!

I can't wait to do that Beastchylde. Since I think my friend isn't buying anymore, he can do the Avengers, and I'll use my new suped up X-Men team consisting of:

Beast
Phoenix
Storm
Gambit
Rogue
Wolverine
White Queen
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Xavier
Cyclops
Psylocke

oh maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and the I hate to tell you but I told you so is getting pretty thick in the air regarding a certain pineapple.... and no its not dole. ;)

Oh and my thoughts on AE and the fig of Dynamo:

Mandarin is most likely the AE, Dynamo's fig will most likely be the chunky/blocky version.

Oh, and for some reason I have a feeling that we'll get a few bonus previews tomorrow since technically tomorrow is the BIG release of Daredevil, and it's Valentines day to boot, so I think it's likely we'll see another set of previews. I'd easily give up one week of previews to see the creator commentary and what powers she'll get. It also appears that we may not be getting the 'new' dc powers after all, seeing as when Iron Man busts out into his close combat part of the dial (as told by the creator notes), there is no mention of CCE. Though I'm not gonna lose hope, I really want Storm to have Force Blast (could actually be a character who has it and it should work very well on the dial, unlike that pathetic excuse for a weather conjurer weather wizard.)

[jjs-thump]

If I remember right he is going to be first marvel fig with CCE.he looks and sounds awesome.

[the itsy bit]

first off..
now that Iron man is confirmed, I hope you all keep quiet ! :p

like someone said before me about Iron man costing more then Thor.
Sheesh Thor is not the end all, be all.
Iron man has a lot more powers (and probably NO weak stats on his whole dial) ! So he should cost more.

Force field..
Well it's definately not toughness or invulnerability (because the designer said those would be in there BEFORE force field), SO it's E/SD OR it's a new power !

RS and RCE..
versitality: well since doing more damage is mostly desirable above RS with less damage ( unless it's like VERY much later in the game 10th turn or something) I would have to agree it's a bad combination of powers.
Cyclops is really diminished because of it and I'm paying for something I will never use (RS ain't cheap !!).
Cyclops was made before the RS/RCE combo was restricted so I'm paying double for him which isn't really his cost !!

[Drashia]

ok ppl we can settle down on the Psylocke pourriture which is... i'm still distraught over it...

Question is... 1 or 2 cases??

Wouldn't average attack be in the lines of... 8 or 9? I wouldn't think 10 (though it would be nice, I don't see how that's considered average)

[Ramplate]

His Force Field is most likely:


Energy Field/Deflection = the green defense power on the PAC.

And It does look to be the Horned Armor.

[Jadehorde]

Originally posted by the itsy bit
first off..
now that Iron man is confirmed, I hope you all keep quiet ! :p

like someone said before me about Iron man costing more then Thor.
Sheesh Thor is not the end all, be all.
Iron man has a lot more powers (and probably NO weak stats on his whole dial) ! So he should cost more.

Force field..
Well it's definately not toughness or invulnerability (because the designer said those would be in there BEFORE force field), SO it's E/SD OR it's a new power !

RS and RCE..
versitality: well since doing more damage is mostly desirable above RS with less damage ( unless it's like VERY much later in the game 10th turn or something) I would have to agree it's a bad combination of powers.
Cyclops is really diminished because of it and I'm paying for something I will never use (RS ain't cheap !!).
Cyclops was made before the RS/RCE combo was restricted so I'm paying double for him which isn't really his cost !!

Well the point being that Ironman shouldn't be given enough in the way of stats and powers to be more powerful than Thor...if you have to give Stark that many powers and reasonable stats...then give him fewer clicks...

A contest between Thor and Ironman is no contest...the God wins almost every iteration of the fight barring an enormous amount of preparation and specifics to the fight in favor of Ironman

[Grinner]

Originally posted by Jadehorde
A contest between Thor and Ironman is no contest...the God wins almost every iteration of the fight barring an enormous amount of preparation and specifics to the fight in favor of Ironman

And just because Iron Man costs more you're saying that Thor will lose every time? Gee, I guess that makes Kang invincible. And vet Superman is surely the most powerful of all non-LE figures because he costs so much :p

[littletrancebo]

Okay what the F***, Cool we got iron man, But 1 it looks like a flying figure that was half melted and then repainted. But whatever he is going to be hella strong. So yeah I hope he is cheap though

[IronManI]

happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy!!!!!

The gods have finally smiled on me.....I cant wait to show up to my first game with IM wearing my life sized Iron Man helm. No lie this thing is sweet......

[dolemite199]

Grinner wrote,

And just because Iron Man costs more you're saying that Thor will lose every time? Gee, I guess that makes Kang invincible. And vet Superman is surely the most powerful of all non-LE figures because he costs so much :p

LOL. I agree that point cost is not a reflection of how powerful a character is. In HC, Iron Man will have a very resonable chance of pummeling the man ot steel, and Thor. From a comics perspective, Iron Man would be annihilated by Thor or Superman. Even with time to prepare. Unfortunately HC is not a good arena to judge "who would beat who" correctly. Not to mention the fact that it is possible, and has ocurred, that a figure is constructed incorrectly, i.e. Rookie Superman not having a base damage higher than two. If the rookie Superman does not have an object he will never be able to hurt an invulnerable or impervious figure. This is grossly incorrect. Superman does not even need objects to bash these types of people in the comics. However, in Wizkids defense, we can't have a Superman that does four damage, or three dmage all of the time. He would cost around 300pts.

Everyone,

If you feel that Thor got cheated becuase a mortal scientist who tinkers with armor costs more points than the beloved Thunder God you are mistaken. If we where to stage a one-on-one bout with the Vet Thor and Vet Iron Man, Thor would come out on top. The reason is, which is purely speculation, that Iron Man will not do more than 3 clicks of Damage with RCE included, maybe four. I highly doubt he will do 5 clicks including RCE. This means on the first attack, the most Iron Man can do is 2 clicks to Thor after invulnerability. Then Thor goes, who is still on his 4 dmg click can nail Iron Man for 3 clicks after toughness with his massive fifteen range via running shot. Thor even gets to pick up an object to smash Iron Man once he gets B2B. It does not matter how many super powers Iron Man has, Thor is just raw power. And that will make the difference in that fight. I hope this appeases the Asgardian supporters that Thor in no way, shape, or form got the shaft because Iron Man costs more points. This same argument can be said for all of the heavy hitters.

- Zeb

[pyr66]

For the running shot and RCE problem, One of my ouse rules that I will enforce(maybe the only one) is that RCE and Running shot can be used together and CCE and charge can be used together. SO bring on Iron Man.

On a lighter and happier note I finally have all the important Ultimates.(Hank Pym is about to be put in the hospital by Cap so He isn't really important to me although i would want a big fig.)

Captain America V
Iron Man V
Thor V
Wasp U
Hawkeye V
Black Widow E
Quicksilver E
Scarlett Witch V
Hulk R
Nick Fury U
Random SHIELD Personnel
:D

[l11moon]

Who knew that Iron Man and Flash have been arch enemies all these years?


lol

[CyberVenom]

Not to sound conceited (okay, maybe just a little :) ), I called that this was gonna be the figure they showed. And man, am I impressed!

But again, I called what the figure would have (to an extent) on a different post I made about a bunch of figures and the way I would do them. It's under the Artisan's Guild. Check it out!

Either way, this figure is totally gonna be one that everyone wants to get!

[razz10555]

old school iron man, what can I say but rad, notice the coloured dial, whos the ae mandarin, titanium man, jim beam, I can't wait to see.

[nuclearbash]

I think the sculptis awesome and so are the powers but i thought crimson dynamo would ne his ae and a i was hopping for a white ae base

[PantherPriest]

Iron Man hmm...


They say he does whatever and Iron can

[hourman]

Nice! I agree that the Mandarin will probably be the AE but With Crimson Dynamo and Madame Masque, who knows? MM was a pretty inportant villain for quite a while.

I'd love to see the Iron Man universe fleshed out in heroclix.

[sol]

Without question, if he is indeed in the set, I would say Iron Man's AE is the Mandarin. He's the only one worthy.

I also like how Iron Man's attack isn't that high. Of course, a lot of Avengers suffer from that problem....Still, it's 'comic book' accurate. Good job, Jon.

Iron Man's point cost should be that high, as he is almost on par with Doom in intellect and variety of gadgets, but his armor is second to none on earth. I can't wait to get this figure!

[Puuka]

Originally posted by Random
not sure about the face though.....

Nice Stats, Sham about his face...

[esfoad]

Originally posted by weezer_10
Okay, from a hardcore DC fan... this is BY FAR the best sculpt I've have seen from Marvel yet.

In fact, I might even buy a few XPlosion boosters when it comes out just to see if I can get Ironman :P

Ditto.

Amazing sculpt, glad to see it's an AE base, and the figure descriptions sound solid. One thing though, why does everyone have to go ape shat on the occasion that there are two+ powers on the same click that can't be used at the same time. Can't we just be happy with the fact that we have the strategic option/choice of one or the other given our situation? I know I am. Not every figure is going to have an uber combo.

Wizkids, thanks 10x over for this fig. Keep 'em coming.

[Hellboy]

Big thumbs up on that sculpt!

[Frongoid]

Zoomed in real close, the collector number looks a WHOLE lot more like a 78 than an 84.

Hmmm... are the folks at Wizkids being purposely sneaky?

[MarkFinn]

Originally posted by Draddog
<TABLE BORDER="0"><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1"><B>Name:</B> Iron Man<BR><B>Number:</B> 082–084<BR><B>Let me just say that Iron Man is a tough character to write up. There are dozens of versions of the armor. I could do a whole set of nothing but Iron Man, so no single version of Iron Man will contain everything that it potentially could. That being said, this Iron Man represents him as he’s normally portrayed in the comics; he has powerful ranged attacks, is very mobile, and has high strength, great defense, and the ability to recover from near-certain defeat. I’d like to include other versions of the armor in future sets, so if this Iron Man isn’t <i>your</i> Iron Man, be sure to check out future sets.

This sounds like a nice way of telling the people who are bltching and moaning about figures to shut up.

Great news! They read the forums! Now, stop being so shrill and complaining about how YOU think the character should be represented in Clix stats.

[ardi5]

Iron man is SUPER COOL !!!

can't wait till the boosters really come :)

[WadeDeadpool]

Has everyone forgotten about Fin Fang Foom? Didn't he and Ironman slug it out more than a couple times? But then again, FFF might make a great bigfig...

[Basil Elks]

OOOOOOO, shiny!

[Iron Man 49]

These last few weeks have marked a golden age for the golden avenger. First, Mike Grell is fired. REPEAT Mike Grell is fired. Hey...that sounds good. Mike Grell is fired. Ah thats better. THEN FINALLY....IRON MAN HAS COME TO HEROCLIX! To borrow the catchphrase of a certain next big thing...HERE COMES THE PAIN. They appearantly did what I hoped, with a few range clix, and a few close clix. Energy Explode is one of my favorite powers. Outwit is fun too, I think they just gave him every cool power but BCF. Regen is a hella cool surprise to me. I havent seen it on the thread...so I'll say it loud, and proud.

AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!

[Emperor Kang]

ALL RIGHT!!!!! IRONMAN!!!

Finally my favorite charater! I can't wait to buy a ton of X-Plosion!

He looks great and his powers sound great too!!! Now lets just hope he's worth the points and is playable!

Thank you Wizkids!

[Ironman44]

RS and RCE make perfect sense for Ironman .

I have almost every issue ever (volume 1, 2 and 3)of the character, a quick moving low power shot or a big blast is great versatility.

The sculpt is beautiful, the fig sounds great. GREAT JOB WIZKIDS!!!!!!!!

I will be pre ordering a case today, this is awesome!!!!!!!!

[JoFo]

Ok, I'm not usually that big of an IM fan (sorry, the guy just doesn't interest me too much), but I must say that this fig has gotten my really hyped up. Nice sculpt, seems very powerful. Great job, WK!

[Mjolnir]

I'm not a big Iron Man fan either... but this fig has me excited for explosion.
If the pineapple I saw is correct or even 50% correct there are definately some figs I want to add to my collection.
I just hope wizkids doesn't take one of my favorite characters and turn them into a unique.... again!!!!!!
With my luck....unique might just as well mean "unattainable" to me.
I just hope Iron Man isn't a unique.

[CaptainCarl]

Ironman looks impressive and i cant wait to play him

by the looks of it too he has 2 arrows and range 10
with running shot and EE he is goin to be a freakin menace on the playfield

keep up the good work Wizkids im lookin forward to Xplosion more and more each day

thecaptain

[I Am The Game]

Just a couple of things I saw in the thread...

Magneto doesn't need to be remade, he's the best sculpt of the IC set.

Crimson Dynamo is SUPPOSED to be big and blocky. Communist Russian technology was supposed to be far more inferior in the 60's, and that's the look Don Heck went with in the first place. Too bad to anyone who doesn't like it!

[algrim]

My 2 cents...

Iron Man is da bomb, yo!

'nuff said!

[GroovyBoy]

Originally posted by nedleeds
cool running shot and RCE together !!! can you give me more figs that don't work right ... idiots ... do the game designers actually know how to play the game or do they just smoke opium and whatever color rolls across their eyes they throw down in the slot?

And also what the heck is "he gets force field" ... ES/Deflection ? Or Mageknights Limited Invisibility :) wouldn't that be just chipper ... cannot be the target of ranged attacks ...

Do you actually read the designer's notes and pick up on the obvious sarcasm ("I know you love the RS/RCE combination...") or do you just smoke opium and whatever thought rolls in your vacant brain you throw down into the thread? [moderators- please note I am mirroring Ned's comments for demstrative purposes rather than initiating an attack]

It's pretty obvious the designer knows RS and RCE don't work at the same time. But as has been pointed out elsewhere, you have your blast-on-the-run, and then your concentrated blast from a standstill, which tends to be a lot more potent.

[Ramplate]

Of course theres Obediah Stane in his Iron Monger Armor
But he wasn't around longer than some of the other Arch Enemy choices

[GroovyBoy]

Originally posted by razz10555
old school iron man, what can I say but rad, notice the coloured dial, whos the ae mandarin, titanium man, jim beam, I can't wait to see.

Jim Beam...man, that's funny!

[Prophet924]

One word: WOW!

Now for a bunch of other words. . .

I will admit. I wasn't all that geeked up about X-Plosion. I really wanted another DC set before another Marvel one. InQuest has me drooling over what this LE Green Lantern is going to be.

Anyway, I was not privy to "the list" and the previews thus far had me going, "eh." That was untill today.

Iron Man looks great! By the description of the powers, he sounds like a versital character that should be fun to play with. I know there are a vast majority of folk who are all about the winning angle to this game, finding the cheapest most efficient combination of characters to mop up the game board. I am more like the guy who loves to mix it up, set scenarios up, and just have fun playing with characters I enjoy so much.

Iron Man looks to be very fun to play with. JLA vs Avengers should be pretty interesting come July when another DC set comes out.

Seeing such a great piece like this and hearing about IM's powers does bum me out that Captain America's piece is not as cool to use. Too bad CCE was not conceived of earlier. Cap is CCE.

This is just great! I am now looking forward to at least one piece from this new set. Bring on the golden avenger!

Thwipp!

[Manchine]

I still trying to figure this out. They named all the powers he has. There is no CCE on Iron Man why do people keep saying he has it. A Close COmbat Monster does not mean he has CCE.

[trust7]

Originally posted by quixotequest
It looks like the Vet is 189 pts.

Seriously, is there anyone who thinks that Running Shot and RCE on the same clix is desirable? Since they ruled via FAQ since June 2002 that RCE and RS don't work together I can't figure why they'd still be putting them on the same clix. Iron Man should have some clix of RS with a good natural damage, and then some clix with a lower natural damage and RCE--but no RS.


Man im tired of hearing this, the POINT is to have CHOICE of what you want to do, I mean lets think about this for two freaking seconds. If you gave FIRELORD running shot and 5 damage what the hell would anyone else PLAY besides a team of firelords.

The key here is the wording that wizkids put up, CHOICE, high damage motionless or a quick running pop which all things considered SHOULD be a lower damage, anytime someone is STILL and aiming it would be a more aimed shot than if they are running.

Get over it its a CHOICE its not taking something away, would you rather have had iron man have just 2 or 3 damage with no RCE and just running shot for a few clicks, then you have no choice, 2 or 3 clicks or 4 or 5 clicks damage standing and aiming.

[webhead817]

I think Iron Man does complete the Ultimates we have so far, if you count Ant Man instead of Giant Man. You've also got the black ops members, Hawkeye and Widow, as well as Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch from the first set. (And Fury and the SHIELD members to boot.) Very cool.

[thickvic]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO IRONFREAKINGMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mulkabu]

Awesome sculpt - best flying pose so far? - awesome powers, nice lots of powers / low numbers schtick (he's practically the 5th (6th) member of the F4 if so, as they all have similar powers/numbers ratios.

Awesome.

Brian
ps And really nice design notes too - which I really, REALLY enjoy. Its nice to see wher the designer is coming from, plus knowing thye are aware of (and therfore probably compensate for pointswise) of issues like Run_Shot + RCE.

All of which has nothing to do with the fact that i really like Iron Man, so I'm gonna lobe ghim anyway with thaqt sculpt. Plus more to come woo!

pps Bigger than Thor? Hmm, the Odinson hath not expecteth this tuen of events, forsooth.

[Doctor Strange]

First, on the RCE/running shot note: Let's not forget that Iroman also has energy explosion, which often can be more devastating than a single target, high-damage attack. That is of course if the attack figure has a high enough attack rating to hit the target, which brings me to......


Point two.

This is a quote from the designers note for ease of reference:
"Iron Man’s attack value is only slightly better than average. This was a conscious decision and represents that fact that although he has on-board computers and targeting systems, Tony is still just a fairly normal guy with no formal combat training."

Doesn't this sound potentially disastrous? Some have guessed that "slightly above average" means 10. Well, what if it in fact means 9? Granted, Iron man is a brick house full of powers, but this also means that he costs a fortune. In other words, he will be the big gun on any team below 300 points. Now, nobody wants their big gun to cap off at a 9 attack rating; no matter how many powers they have.

..... just some food for thought.

[SHERFMAN]

WAIT A MINUTE, CAN YOU USE RUNNING SHOT WITH RANGE COMBAT EXPERT AND STILL GET THE BONUS DAMAGE. I DIDNT THINK YOU COULD.

[trust7]

Originally posted by IronManI
happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy!!!!!

The gods have finally smiled on me.....I cant wait to show up to my first game with IM wearing my life sized Iron Man helm. No lie this thing is sweet......


Pic@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Doctor Strange]

ROFL! That was a good one SHERFMAN!

[MarkFinn]

Originally posted by Doctor Strange
First, on the RCE/running shot note: Let's not forget that Iroman also has energy explosion, which often can be more devastating than a single target, high-damage attack. That is of course if the attack figure has a high enough attack rating to hit the target, which brings me to......


Point two.

This is a quote from the designers note for ease of reference:


Doesn't this sound potentially disastrous? Some have guessed that "slightly above average" means 10. Well, what if it in fact means 9? Granted, Iron man is a brick house full of powers, but this also means that he costs a fortune. In other words, he will be the big gun on any team below 300 points. Now, nobody wants their big gun to cap off at a 9 attack rating; no matter how many powers they have.

..... just some food for thought.

If that's the case, then here's an argument for teams. He's an avenger, right? Then field him with the Scarlet Witch. You may not hit your roll the first time (attacking a 17, you'd need an 8 or higher, which is still good odds), but with Wanda around, you can double your chances of hitting.

I'd be surprised if anything other than his Vet got a 9 attack. I'll bet his his R and E have a 7 and 8. That's slightly higher than average, by my way of thinking.

So what? It's a nice representative figure that does a lot. I'll field him with my Avengers in a Heartbeat.

[Darth Sabre]

If this is the final product that we get, with regards to the paint scheme. Iron Man will be the best looking Marvel Clix we have seen to date. I mean, there were many upgrades in CT over IC, with the exception of the monster known as Psylocke, these figures look like a cut above the the previous Marvel sets, and on par with the DC set.

As for Iron Man's abilities-My GOD! Hook him up with Strange and Doom, and this looks like the Reading Rainbow of powers! Can't wait, yes a massive Avengers vs anybody battle looms over the horizon..................muahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Ironman44]

Death Sabre.....he does look so good, I have to agree with you .

Ironman is awesome man, simply awesome.

[Acmite]

Originally posted by Prophet924
[BSeeing such a great piece like this and hearing about IM's powers does bum me out that Captain America's piece is not as cool to use. Too bad CCE was not conceived of earlier. Cap is CCE.
[/B]

I'm with you on the whole Cap thing, man!

But, as far as I know, CCE was in the works when Marvel and DC were first being designed. On his message boards, Monte Cook mentioned them being conceptualized at roughly the same time, and a conscious decision was made to restrict CCE to DC. Which is a shame really, and I hope they decide to introduce it to a later Marvel set.

Having said that, I have a couple concerns with that. 1. Unlike other powers that have been introduced via expansions, CCE runs the risk of invalidating earlier versions of characters. Powers like Perplex and Psychic Blast don't immediately make earlier versions poor options. But, why would anyone play with Vet Cap from IC if there was a version with CCE?

2. It suits so many of the already released highly skilled combatants (like Thor, Taskmaster, Daredevil, etc) that it would demand a re-release of those figures. I'd rather see new characters than re-releases of old figures (except Captain America).

3. It can be outwitted. People like Cap should just have a slightly higher base damage for most of their clicks. I can't see him having CCE for more than a click or two since his combat prowess shouldn't be subject to outwit. Same with Daredevil, IMO.

4. Marvel distinctiveness. I like the fact that DC and Marvel have a different feel. DC gets a ton of outwit, CCE, and poopy stats. Marvel gets better stats, a ton of RCE and BCF, and better characters. :D

That's my 2 copper ingots, anyway.

[IronManI]

Originally posted by trust7



Pic@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Check it out. Life sized Iron Man helm.....and its only like $329 dollars. ;)
http://www.toymania.com/news/messages/0202_ironman.shtml

[TheSpirit]

Odd, no force blast. That was the one power I figured was guaranteed for Iron Man - his repulsor rays have been his hallmark since the beginning. Darn. I was looking forward to slamming people into walls for 3-4 damage. Not that I'm complaining - it does sound like an interesting figure, and as the designer's notes hint, it's likely there will be another version in another expansion which could have FB.

[the itsy bit]

Originally posted by trust7
[B}.. If you gave FIRELORD running shot and 5 damage what the hell would anyone else PLAY besides a team of firelords.

The key here is the wording that wizkids put up, CHOICE, high damage motionless or a quick running pop which all things considered SHOULD be a lower damage, anytime someone is STILL and aiming it would be a more aimed shot than if they are running.
[/B]

first off a flying fig with RS has an advantage !
he can carry someone with him AND deal damage.
yes, IF you upped "the-one-whom-shall-not-be-named" to 5 damage AND gave him RS he would rule all, DUH !! even if you let him do only 3 damage he would rule because HE CAN TAKE SOMEONE with him, Cyclops can't !!!!!!!!!!!!!

second..
RS you said it correctly: It's more of an aimed shot then if they're running=> damage is damage, BUT he's aiming is worse so RS would affect his ATTACK VALUE not Cyclops his damage !

example..
Ironman RS shoots 2 figs standing together EE whilst carrying Thor (in his other hand ?), Thor RS at another fig whilst along the way picking up an object (throwing the hammer while all the way his other hand keeps hold of the Dumpster?).
let's face it and I will repeat this again: Heroclix does NOT deal with the "real" world.
So why can't I do 4 damage with Cyclops?
since the X-men desperately need someone who can do 4 damage(hit figs with INV) !
Oh I'm sorry !off course I can at least as long as he's being carried or TK'ed !
But that would make his RS worthless now wouldn't it ?!

[TheSpirit]

itsy bit, might I suggest you take a break and cool off? OK, we get it that you don't like the RS/RCE combo, and that the IC Cyclops isn't as good as you would like. Fine. This thread is about the Iron Man preview. So if you're going to complain about RS/RCE, at least keep it on topic and rant about Iron Man.

Sheesh.

[urlmaker]

I am suprised that no one thinks that Iron Man's Force Field could be "Impervious". This could be the fig to cross over the power. Just a thought.

[heroesrealm]

The figure looks great and I can't complain about the Vet versions stats. Now I have a reason to be psyched about Xplosion.

[bjmc1975]

I suspect slightly higher than average means 8/9/10 (possibly 9/10/11) for his r/e/v. If any version starts with a 7, then he's going in my "unplayable" pile.

But the sculpt looks incredible - I was hoping he'd be that version. It also sounds like they probably will have kept his cost out of the insane levels it could easily have gotten to.

[T-RO]

Good looking fig. The stats sound fair and cool. I dont care about RCE & RS at the same time. Yes, it would be nice to use them both but you do have a choice of which to use. Each can be used effectivly in battle.

Good job!

[WASSUPDUCK]

Looks to be one of the best figures in the set, sculpt and dial. It might just make up for some of the no names we have been forced to collect........ Mr. Hyde two sets before a founding Avenger?!?!?! Hmmmm.

[Skullfire]

urlmaker makes a valid point. The forcefield could be impervious and that wat Ironman could have CCE. Just because they didn't list that he had the power they could be trying to keep any powers a secret.

[Pontifex]

Those of you hating Iron Man's RCE/RS combo are missing something.

That combination works poorly for Cyclops because he is a groundbound figure - nothing but an artillery piece. Sure, he has a choice, but he is tactically limited in that he can't fly, and for the points, he isn't as good of a taxied shooter as Bullseye.


Iron Man, however, can fly - and therein lies a huge difference. If you want to use him as a gun, he'll do. However, he can also carry other figures, which Cyclops can't do, so he'll still be useful with RS to support his cargo. Plus, Shell-head is going to be an Avenger in at least one of his incarnations, so he'll still get to move for free, again making him valuable to have.

After losing a game this week to a well played Human torch/Thing combo, I've seen what RS can do for a flyer/hard hitting combo. Plus, even if Tony has a low to-hit number, you can always carry Wanda around for the reroll...

[Wolris]

Originally posted by spanishyoda
I wonder who his AE will be? Someone citrusy I hope.... The sculpt rocks. Verry nice!

HA! LOL! I get it! It's funny cause he's a fruit!

[Ghost_Rider]

Originally posted by dolemite199
It looks like he weighs in at an astounding 189pts for the Vet version. I noticed that someone who posted on this thread here feels that he should not cost more than Thor becuase Thor is more powerful. Well, Iron Man costs more than Thor because he has a super power on every single slot for all most every click. Thor only pays for four super powers throughtout his dial. Iron Man is paying for up to twelve different super powers at various points in his dial. I mean he has running shot, EE, toughness, RCE, charge, SS, Invulnerability, force blast (maybe), outwit, perplex, incapacitate, energy shiled/defelction (maybe), and regeneration. This is also why Dr. Doom cost so frickin much because of his super powers.

He is going to be one of the most versitle Hero Clix figures to date. He is a completely self sustaning figure. You will not even need a taxi for him. Man, its going to a joy when we can actually play with him.

Also, Thor's numbers are better.
Ghost

[bizzirini]

Finally!! The Man of Iron! It looks like the classic, Bob Layton era armor too! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! The powers sound about right also. I can't wait, I want the new set NOW!!! Oh, all that talk about different armors showing up later, can you say HULKBUSTER!!!!!!, can you say WARMACHINE!!! Sorry for so many exclamation points, but I think you all know the feeling.

[Alyksandyr]

Im not an Iron Man fan.... but that scuplt is one of the best I have ever seen. Add that onto the plethora of powers that he gets, and im droolin.

[bizzirini]

One would think that he would be the Arch-Enemy. Although, I didn't think Enchantress was the natural choice for Thor's AE. Hmmmm, who else could it be? I hope it's not Iron Monger. I hope it is the Manderin, that would be way cool! I suppose it could be Baron Zemo(maybe) or some big figs, like Fin Fang Foom or Ultimo.

[Veggiehater]

Looks like Wizkids did a great job on Iron Man! Hopefully his stats are up to snuff.

With the release of Spidey and Iron Man as consecutive previews I wonder who Wizkids will reveal next to keep up the momentum? See they already got me waiting for next week! :p

VH

[I Am The Game]

No formal training, huh? Great, if he takes one shot, he's on par with a Henchman for attack... another 200 point taxi, great.

Does anyone else think the pointy head helmet was the wrong one to choose? Besides, his face looks like the dude from Scream... You guys are just hyped to get the figure. Just wait until you're the victim of a bad paint job, with the black of his eyes wrapped halfway around his helmet!

By the way, what's with the fire out of his boot jets? He has a propulsion system, but he's not burning fuel to fly. Ever see Iron Man with a gas tank on his back? Me neither...

[Badges2]

Originally posted by I Am The Game
Does anyone else think the pointy head helmet was the wrong one to choose? Besides, his face looks like the dude from Scream... You guys are just hyped to get the figure. Just wait until you're the victim of a bad paint job, with the black of his eyes wrapped halfway around his helmet!

If you've got a problem with it, then you can use an exacto knife to cut it off and superglue it to Psyclocke. Hmm..... That's a good idea.

[Joe Kerr]

You know I'd rather Iron Man have running shot and RCE on his first click or whatever to give me options to use him with instead of being a flying Hawkeye.

[nedleeds]

Originally posted by wooberhead1


Didn't the designer remark on this? Did you not read his notes, or do you wear a helmet?
If they're such idiots, don't play the game.

I did read it ? What does that have to do with my statement ? Why shouldn't I play ? His comments make it even more ridiculous ... he understands that we "all love the Running Shot and Ranged Combat Expert combination" but he puts it on a figure anyway. Is this guy the same Einstein who designed Hawkeye ? Another avenger wasted ... you see alot of Hawkeye played on the short bus you ride to school ?

[sly spy]

it looks cool but who is iron man? is he good is he bad what team?

[PMMJ]

Originally posted by bizzirini
One would think that he would be the Arch-Enemy. Although, I didn't think Enchantress was the natural choice for Thor's AE. Hmmmm, who else could it be? I hope it's not Iron Monger. I hope it is the Manderin, that would be way cool! I suppose it could be Baron Zemo(maybe) or some big figs, like Fin Fang Foom or Ultimo.

Wasn't Iron Monger responsible for the Iron Wars?

Really, I'd have to guess the Mandarin, but I can see arguements for the Red Dynamo or the Titanium Man. But I am not an Iron Man expert.

[Dormammu]

This photo looks quite different from the picture on the side of the box at Icon.com. There it appears that an "Ironman-like" figure has one arm back in a fist, and the left arm stretched out delivering a ranged blast of some kind. Does this mean there is more than one scupt like Invisible Woman, or that the picture is of another figure?

[CrimsonX77]

Hopefully Mandarin will counter Iron Man's last-moment Regeneration by having the 'Heart Attack' power, as indicated by the pink square on his final attack slot.

*****ATTACK*****

Heart Attack: By increasing the amount of stress on any ex-POW, a character with this power can immediately reduce all target's dial numbers to 1. These numbers cannot be modified in any way afterwards. All powers and team abilities for that target are nullified for the remainder of the game. If the target is Iron Man, then the laws of paradox step in, questioning how a weak-hearted man in a Vietnamese death camp somehow built a super-powerful suit of armor out of straw, mud, feces, gruel, and a few stray stones in order to prevent the inevitable. He then takes 11 clix of damage which cannot be soaked by defensive abilities.


...and yes...I'm fairly sure that 'Force Field' is not a new power, but merely a clever way for the designers to talk about the fig's use of Energy Shield/Deflection in a 'thematic' way ;).

[Melkoloran]

The sculpt looks great... until you get to the face. Then it looks goofy. Odd combination of RS and RCE, unless either a) they're changing the rules again or b) they designed him before the powers stopped working together.

As for AE, hopefully Mandarin. Aside from the fact that he's Iron Man's coolest enemy, he'd have a bit of a connection with the Psylocke fig as well.

[JerryReedStyle]

Not a single click of Intoxication??

[StealthArmor]

YES YES YES YES looks good and i think they got him about right the only thing that bugs me is that he says that he has had no formal combat training so his to hit score is only average.

One thing I want to point out is that Iron Man’s attack value is only slightly better than average. This was a conscious decision and represents that fact that although he has on-board computers and targeting systems, Tony is still just a fairly normal guy with no formal combat training. The armor makes him better, but not as good as a well-trained fighter.

Um thats wrong big style wrong
Tonys been trained by the best ,Captain America himself. He trained him how to fight outside his armor and that tranlates to how to fight inside the armor. oh and i guess all those years of leading the avengers, West coast Avengers and Force Works dont count. also Tony is probably the only person in the Marvel universe to have Mastered the armor , maybe Rhodey too but Tony HAS MASTERED the armor. Ok i give them outside the armor he is not as good as a well trained fighter ie cap or daredevil but put anyone in the armor and see how good they do.Its like giving me a indy car or F-16 and telling me, ok go to it, ok im a pretty good driver so yea ill be able to drive like Michael Schumacher or Mario Andretti yea of course. Lets get the best fighter in the world and stick him in an F-16 . see what i mean. Tony is the best there is when it comes to armor, bar none .

and jerryreedstyle i know its a standing joke but Tony hasent had a drink in years over 10 years in the comics.Ultimates dont count.

roll on march

[Mushroomfantas]

hmm there is the chance of Ironman having two AEs in this set

One question though, are the Mandrian and Crimson Dynamo enemies?

Also his AE base may look like the flash's but Aquaman's AE base looked just like Bullseyes and they came out different.

WK's sites colors for AE bases are usually off

[Billy Jack]

Finally Iron Man am Happy, very Happy and too think I was getting worried about the sculpts this one rocks.

[Brigadier M]

I'm surprised we're getting r/e/v. I expected they would throw us a bone by giving us a unique Iron Man, to staunch the complaints that we had NO Iron Man yet, but that they would hold the r/e/v for a later set since IM is one of the few big names we haven't gotten yet.

One poster (can't seem to find it now) complained about the flames coming from his boots. I haven't read the comics, so I can't comment on the accuracy of that aspect of the sculpt, but I think they look good. Following the Spidey sculpt, this has fully countered the misgivings I got for the set from Psylocke's appearance.

Originally posted by Brigadier M
Can anybody make out his point cost? Looks like 189 to me. What does that bring the Avengers up to, about 1600pts?
M!

Seems the numbers had gotten inflated in my head since the time I toted them up. If IM is 189, that brings the Avengers roster (barring any other Avengers that may be in this set) up to 1263. If anyone's counting.

M!

[cephy]

That's definitely a sweet looking figure. I can't wait to geta buncha rookies and start modifying them...*happy, contented sigh...*
As for Forcefield, maybe it has something to do with support- or whatever it is that the Vet Invisible woman has after she loses that invulnerable...

Cephy

[GCSwimmer]

Beast
Phoenix
Storm
Gambit
Rogue
Wolverine
White Queen
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Xavier
Cyclops
Psylocke

With this team you also forgot Iceman and Shadowcat who both are apparently going to be in the group.

-GCS

[enzobambino]

Wouldn't his arch enemy be budweiser?


Or WK can put out a special indoor adventure pack: The Betty Ford Clinic.


OR a special scenario: Last Call.

[stinger23]

This might be old news but Fox News just announced that New Line will be putting out the Iron Man movie in 2005.

[kon-el]

Oh man Stinger, you beat me to it! You saw that too?

[stinger23]

All I saw was just a little blurb about it. Was there an actual story giving any details, like director, screen-writer?

[Ironman1492]

"ironman, ironman, does whatever a iron can"

[Teletran]

Here's what I think of Ironman

1. The RS/RCE should be okay. With 2 bolts and EE with RS, Ironman can do crowd control. Kinda like a variant of Ultron IMHO. With RCE, he can hit a single one much harder. Combo him with those with Running Shot then Ironman makes a very versatile fig.

2. AE should be Mandarin. Nuff said.

3. Force Field huh? I was surprised myself but after thinking a lot and reading all the posts here, I believe "force Field" means he turns it on when he goes to close combat mode.... therefore the shift from Toughness to Invulnerability. It sure would be crazy to put in Deflection when you're gonna be charging and punching the enemy up close.

4. High point cost?!? Oh no! Does that mean I can't even field the big three (Cap, IM, Thor) in a 400 point team using their vet forms?!?

5. Hope slighly higher than average means at least 10 (hoping for at least a click of 11 there). The WORST is that we have such a high costed yet cool and versatile fig who CAN'T hit at all. I don't want him to suffer from the "Thing" and "E Batman" problem. Having to tug along a Hydra ability to him would hinder his versatility... guess a Doombot would be ideal if this is the case.

6. As for Uniques, looking forward to the Silver Centurion, Hulkbuster, Thorbuster, Stealth, Modular, and the post Heroes Reborn armor that went Sentient.

Cheers!

[MarkFinn]

Originally posted by GCSwimmer
Beast
Phoenix
Storm
Gambit
Rogue
Wolverine
White Queen
Colossus
Nightcrawler
Xavier
Cyclops
Psylocke

With this team you also forgot Iceman and Shadowcat who both are apparently going to be in the group.

-GCS

What on EARTH does this have to do with Iron Man?
I'll give you a million dollars if you can 'splain it to me...

[Ironman44]

Force Field could be a variation on defend. I have seen him do it in comics.

[gambit444]

I am almost positive they will make a mandarin figure and it will be his arch-nemesis.
( I rolled a six and saw it coming with my super senses.)

[Mr. Cranberry]

My favorite part is that no Iron Man will showcase all of his different abilities and that we'll recieve multiple versions of him. So if this version is your cup of soup then there will be one for you later on.

This is the same reason I haven't been upset with Spidey as of late. They all play slightly differently and I'll just have to be patient and know that Spidey will be made correctly at least once in future incarnations.

[Carny]

i dunno if anyone's posted this yet, but all the complaining about RS and RCE on the same click is stupid! This way, he can either move and shoot, most likely for 2, or sit still and hit for 4. OR he can move and shoot on turn 1 then shoot for 4 on turn 2 when he's already in position. DUH!

[Doctor Strange]

Originally posted by Teletran

5. Hope slighly higher than average means at least 10 (hoping for at least a click of 11 there). The WORST is that we have such a high costed yet cool and versatile fig who CAN'T hit at all. I don't want him to suffer from the "Thing" and "E Batman" problem. Having to tug along a Hydra ability to him would hinder his versatility...

Perhaps he means...

"slightly above average (for a character who costs nearly 200 points)"

--the in parenthesis part is my hopefull thinking and has nothing to do with wizkids :)

[jjreason]

He looks beautiful. Only the Mandarin could be his arch nemesis - unless of course they're planning on a "bottle of scotch" unique. Talk about incapacitate.......

[azhael]

Ok, I can't believe I just read all 11 pages of this thread.

First of all the figure looks great. I'm sorry if you don't like the mask that they put on this figure, but the figure is wonderful. If this sculpt wasn't for you, wait. I'm sure we'll see another version of this figure (personally I want the Hulk Buster armour)

For all those people complaining about him having RS and RCE on the same click, remeber while they can't be used in conjunction with each other, they off up a greater range of options available to the figure. So say your problem figure is just 1 square out of range for a RCE attack, use RS and while you don't get the amazing +2 click of damage you can still do something without necessarily setting yourself up to get hurt before you can do it.
As much as some people don't think that its so, this game does involve strategy, and figures that can give you more options have a better chance of helping you win.

His average attack value..... Now why does everybody think just becasue somebody has trained with Cap in h2h combat that they need to have amazing attack values and damage. Iron Man's fighting style depends on his armour, and is completely different than what Cap does. No matter how well designed, and in comics, how well intergrated for man and machine interface, armour places limitations on what a body can do. Tony Stark is just a regular man who happens to put on a suit of high tech armour and go beat up the bad guys. He may have had training by Cap (but definately not at his rookie level), but he doesn't have the constant training program. He may have been doing this
kind of thing for years, and yes probably has picked up a think or two, but he still doesn't necessarily devote all of his time to becoming better in his fighting skills. If Tony runs into a problem he can't handle, he bulids a new feature into his armour to deal with it, he doesn't retrain himself to overcome it in a fight.

And on another note, just because a figure cost a lot of points doesn't necessarily mean that they are game winners by them selves. Just becasue it seems Iron Man is comparable in cost to Thor doesn't mean he should have the same stats as Thor. Iron Man would have a greater range of powers per click than Thor would and probably have more powers through out his dial than Thor.

[Darkskaven]

WOW ! It is really Iron Man? Can't believe it ! I was waiting for it for so long ... and now it cames to us.

The sculpt is so great... must have one of each versions !

Versatility is the word to describe it's powers ! Kewl ! I gonna play it in a lot of scenarios : it should always have the power(s) needed for !

Thanks you WK for one of my favourites !

[feralparrot]

Nice job guys!

That fig is beautiful.

He sounds like a great player too.

When they say March release... when in March can we expect to see them?

Notice, the metallic gold paint! I thought it was a wierd thing on Psylock (metallic Blue?) But this gold color tells me that we may have a "truely silver" Silver Surfer on the way!!

And lastly... who can read that point value?! 189?... I just can't see it at all!

FeralParrot out

...and PUMPED to buy Xplosion boosters!