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ORION-TREVORAN
02/13/2003, 02:46
Do they know their rules and rulings ??????????????

- Iron Man starts as a powerful, but straightforward, ranged combatant with some options that make him versatile. I’ve heard how much you all love the Running Shot and Ranged Combat Expert combination, but y’know, some characters have it, and Iron Man is one of them.

Do someone love : Running Shot and Ranged Combat Expert combination !!!!!

Where's the Combination ??????

Todosi
02/13/2003, 03:15
He was being sarcastic about so many people liking those two powers combined on 1 figure. And he clearly says that it's designed for flexibility, if he needs to move and shoot, he can, if he needs to dish out a bunch of damage, he can. That's what he meant.

Todosi

ORION-TREVORAN
02/13/2003, 04:27
Yes, sarcastic !!!

-- but y’know, some characters have it, and Iron Man is one of them.

He could have said :
- Poor little Ironman, it was quite pleasant to mess him like we did with hawkeye and some of the fantastic four(and a lot of other characters) hohoho... !!!!

It won't have been sarcastic but true !!!

Ok, i'm going too far and i still hope that Ironman will be fun to play !!!

Thank's for your answer TODOSI, you must be right !!

D_Ronin
02/13/2003, 07:12
Cyclops has it but it does not mean it is legal to use.

spidey2099
02/13/2003, 08:09
It has to be.

Here is how I see it, they wouldn't (or shouldn't) create a character that will be illegal to use in the first place. Plus, which cyclops has running shot & ranged combat expert? My brother's unique doesn't and my rookie doesn't.

And, I think the only reason you're saying that it's illegal is because it will give your opponent a huge advantage. I don't care anyways because my firelord V can beat everybody's if Nightmare's anywhere near him. 6 damage gets pretty nice when you start offing heavy hitters like Juggy & Hulk. :)

ORION-TREVORAN
02/13/2003, 08:15
Spidey2099,

You know that you can't use Enhancement(Nigktmare) with RCE(firelord) ???

Cyclop Rookie, E and V have Running Shot and RCE !!!

phonixinmi
02/13/2003, 08:17
Enhancement doesn't work with RCE. You can use the SHIELD team ability, though...

Katmandu
02/13/2003, 08:21
What they are saying here is, He can do either or. He isn't designed to be illegal. He is designed to have options. He can fly in, and shoot... this is a good thing. He can also stand still and take aim, and do more damage using ranged combat expert.

As he is a flyer, his Running shot will prove to be very useful. Then, after he has delivered his cargo, and taken a shot in the first volley, he can use ranged combat expert, on a push, or after clearing.

They are trying represent him as a man with a vast arsenal, and from what I have read, they did a pretty good job.

fridayweb
02/13/2003, 08:22
Cyclops - and now Iron Man - aren't "illegal to use". You simply can't use RCE and Running Shot together.

Now, Cyclops was designed before the developers decided they couldn't be used together so I question the wisdom of putting it on Iron Man (simply because of all the ruckus it's causing). But the lead designer says EXACTLY why he's done it - Iron Man has both. So he can move and fire a low-powered blast or stand still and whack his target for 2 clicks more.

spidey2099, read the FAQ. RCE can't be combined with anything.

Tsannik
02/13/2003, 09:26
Great. Remind me to 'thank' those guys who did the write-up on Iron Man....

A figure using RCE/CCE cannot be affected by or use
Charge
Flurry
Mind Control
Leap/Climb
Running Shot
Stealth
Super Strength
Blades/Claws/Fangs
Incapacitate
Energy Explosion
Pulse Wave
Steal Energy
Telekinesis
Enhancement
Outwit (cannot use, but can be affected by)
Hypersonic Speed
Psychic Blast
Willpower
Perplex

A figure using RCE/CCE can be affected by and use
Probability Control
All team abilities (for Superman Enemy – can be granted Outwit, but won’t be able to use it)