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readyeddy?
11/23/2009, 20:08
Now that we have a cool new DD and a (hopefully) decent Kingpin along with the Owl and new Hand Ninja generics, who all do we have to fit as his rogue's gallery?

So far I've got:
Kingpin
TheOwl
Stilt Man
Kilgrave the Purple Man
Typhoid Mary
Bullseye
Mr. Hyde
Electro
Mysterio
Ringmaster
Princess Python
Echo

Who am I missing?

While we're at it, let's list allies:
Spiderman
Black Widow
Elektra
Cloak & Dagger
Shang Chi
Iron Fist
Powerman
Jessica Jones
Nighthawk (DD reformed him.)
Moon Knight
Punisher (reluctant ally)
Kazar (teamed with DD a lot in the early years.)
Batman (Teamed with DD twice. Of course this means I probably should use Two Face as a villain)


who else should I consider?

traitorarmor
11/23/2009, 20:18
For Allies I'd add......

Iron Fist
Cage
White Tiger [Not in clix yet, I use a Shang Chi(Av)]
Black Tarantula [Not in Clix form yet, I use Ravage(2099)]
Jewl/Jessica Jones


For Enemies.....

IIRC Mr Hyde has a serious beef with DD

Of those made in clix forms, or substitutes I use, that's what comes to mind.

starr226
11/23/2009, 20:35
Elektra and Hand Ninjas are enemies, as well.

The Punisher is an ally and occasional enemy as well.

We really need to get the Enforcers...

readyeddy?
11/23/2009, 20:54
Elektra and Hand Ninjas are enemies, as well.

The Punisher is an ally and occasional enemy as well.

We really need to get the Enforcers...
I don't care about that Elektra /Hand, Bendis nonsense. Elektra is his old girlfriend and should ally with him not fight him.

bill4935
11/23/2009, 21:10
Enemies
Mr. Fear
Lady Bullseye
Bushwacker
Gladiator
Mysterio (he killed DD's girlfriend Karen Page)
Nuke
Paladin

Allies
White Tiger
Stick
Night Nurse


/wikipedia.org (http://en.wikipedia.org) is our friend.

readyeddy?
11/23/2009, 21:32
Enemies
Mr. Fear
Lady Bullseye
Bushwacker
Gladiator
Mysterio (he killed DD's girlfriend Karen Page)
Nuke
Paladin

Allies
White Tiger
Stick
Night Nurse


/wikipedia.org (http://en.wikipedia.org) is our friend.

I'm looking for figures that have been clixed.

readyeddy?
11/24/2009, 00:19
What's Echo's status vs DD?

Badger
11/24/2009, 00:49
Allies
Ben Urich
Foggy Nelson

Enemies
Beetle

readyeddy?
11/24/2009, 00:57
Allies
Ben Urich
Foggy Nelson

Enemies
Beetle

The Beetle fought DD?

readyeddy?
11/24/2009, 01:39
I added the Ringmaster and Princess Python to the list as I remember DD fighting the Circus of Crime a time or two.

I want to do something with this but I can't find my Purple Man figure.

Repulsor rage
11/24/2009, 01:53
What's Echo's status vs DD?


She wants to be him or on the inside is him. So thats an ally? New Avengers when Dr. Strange cast a spell to see their members on the inside. Punisher? An Ally? He tied Matt up with a gun and forced him to admit by pulling a trigger on an empty gun that he would kill for justice. Ally in the sense that he likes to teach him lessons and would help him if Kingpin got out of hand definatly. But otherwise Punisher is on his own side.

readyeddy?
11/24/2009, 02:04
She wants to be him or on the inside is him. So thats an ally? New Avengers when Dr. Strange cast a spell to see their members on the inside. Punisher? An Ally? He tied Matt up with a gun and forced him to admit by pulling a trigger on an empty gun that he would kill for justice. Ally in the sense that he likes to teach him lessons and would help him if Kingpin got out of hand definatly. But otherwise Punisher is on his own side.I've opted to use Echo as a villain.

As for the Punisher, that arc that you cite is a Garth Ennis story that I choose to ignore because Ennis has a jones for tearing superheroes down.

I choose to consider the Marvel Knights storyline where DD and Punisher were allies in spite of themselves.

Repulsor rage
11/24/2009, 02:39
I've opted to use Echo as a villain.

As for the Punisher, that arc that you cite is a Garth Ennis story that I choose to ignore because Ennis has a jones for tearing superheroes down.

I choose to consider the Marvel Knights storyline where DD and Punisher were allies in spite of themselves.

Im jus saying theres a moral abiguaty between him and other heroes. Echo as a villian? Was that her earlier career?

readyeddy?
11/24/2009, 02:46
Im jus saying theres a moral abiguaty between him and other heroes. Echo as a villian? Was that her earlier career?

There's only that ambiguity because Ennis put it there and I don't respect Ennis enough to accept that. Ennis hates the concept of superheroes. His entire career has been about mocking and tearing them down. He's trashed on Batman, Spiderman, Kyle Rayner G.L. and anybody else the editors have let him trash. I can't accept Ennis' take on DD or the Punisher for that matter.

Echo started as a villain, she was Kingpin's tool. Since she has murdered without remorse I choose to consider her a villain.

Repulsor rage
11/24/2009, 02:56
There's only that ambiguity because Ennis put it there and I don't respect Ennis enough to accept that. Ennis hates the concept of superheroes. His entire career has been about mocking and tearing them down. He's trashed on Batman, Spiderman, Kyle Rayner G.L. and anybody else the editors have let him trash. I can't accept Ennis' take on DD or the Punisher for that matter.

Echo started as a villain, she was Kingpin's tool. Since she has murdered without remorse I choose to consider her a villain.

Doesnt Frank murder without remorse?

readyeddy?
11/24/2009, 03:06
Doesnt Frank murder without remorse?

Indeed he does but; and this is a big but, the difference is Frank murders scum where as Echo has murdered those who have harmed no one under orders from the Kingpin. Frank Castle is a long way from being a saint but he does have a moral code that prevents him from whacking the average joe. So Frank gets to fight alongside the heroes while Echo has to play with the bad guys because she is unstable and shouldn't be trusted.

Repulsor rage
11/24/2009, 03:28
Indeed he does but; and this is a big but, the difference is Frank murders scum where as Echo has murdered those who have harmed no one under orders from the Kingpin. Frank Castle is a long way from being a saint but he does have a moral code that prevents him from whacking the average joe. So Frank gets to fight alongside the heroes while Echo has to play with the bad guys because she is unstable and shouldn't be trusted.

Ok I can totally see that. On the point of Echo ive only read her in New Avengers and shes seems the least psychologically damage out of Wolverine, Ronin, and Spider-Man. lol

Dr. Morbius
11/24/2009, 05:08
characters that have been clixed?

well...
Hand Ninjas
Kirigi (LE)
Morbius (in "Fall from Grace")
Venom Eddie Brock (in "Fall from Grace")
Dr. Doom (Daredevil #37 + 38)

readyeddy?
11/24/2009, 05:49
Ok I can totally see that. On the point of Echo ive only read her in New Avengers and shes seems the least psychologically damage out of Wolverine, Ronin, and Spider-Man. lol
Ronin is Hawkeye, if he seems psychologically damaged it's because Bendis is a twit.

readyeddy?
11/24/2009, 05:51
characters that have been clixed?

well...
Hand Ninjas
Kirigi (LE)
Morbius (in "Fall from Grace")
Venom Eddie Brock (in "Fall from Grace")
Dr. Doom (Daredevil #37 + 38)

Fall from Grace, more specifics please.

Dr. Doom would seriously imbalance this face off.

Hand Ninjas should have been listed.

starr226
11/24/2009, 19:25
I don't care about that Elektra /Hand, Bendis nonsense. Elektra is his old girlfriend and should ally with him not fight him.

Man, someone needs to read Frank Miller's run...when he, you know, created Elektra and redefined Daredevil as a character people began to care about.

She got her training from The Hand. More often than not, Elektra has been a villain.

readyeddy?
11/24/2009, 19:27
Man, someone needs to read Frank Miller's run...when he, you know, created Elektra and redefined Daredevil as a character people began to care about.

She got her training from The Hand. More often than not, Elektra has been a villain.I did read that run and as I recall she reformed.