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M.Drake
11/30/2009, 13:26
Hey Guys years ago I made a list for the Highlander Rule. Today I finally took some Time to update it. All in all its just an idea, of course everyone is allowed to play what he/or she wants. Have fun reading. So without more blubbering from me:

My List:



Highlander-Rule


Table of Contents
I. The Rule (and how do I specify who is who?)
II. Generics
III. Same Civilian Identity, different Name or Sculpt (excluding LE, for different LE-Characters see Section V)
IV. Same Meta-Identity, different Character
V. Same Sculpt, different Character
VI. Duo-Ids of Identities which have been used by more than one Person
VII. Same Character, different Universe or Timeline (different means not from DC New Earth or Marvel 616)
VIII. Canon Immigrants (Different Universe or Timeline Versions who live on the Main Universe now or can interact)


I. The Rule (and how do I specify who is who?)
The Highlander Rule states, that you cannot have two Versions of the same Character in your Team, if it is the same person (even LE). Exceptions are Generics and different Characters with the same Name.
Even Parallel universes can fall under the Highlander Rule, as long as the character is too similar in both Universes (e.g. Wolverine, exemple for an exception: Heather Hudson from the Exiles could be played along Vindicator and Sasquatch because she is very different to both of them)

How do I specify which Character a Figure is if it is not recognizable on first sight?
Three Steps in that Order:
1. Dial and Character Card(Powers, Power names)
2. Sculpt
3. Keywords
An Example of Dial trumping Sculpt: Professor Zoom (Sculpt is Zoom)
Keywords are considered last because most of them were retconned on the Figures so I just use them to identify a character if they fit the Character.
E.g. ULT Electro and Magneto have Keywords they should not have because they are clearly the Ultimate Versions, Sasquatch E was ID’d as Heather Hudson in a WK Article when MM came out and she has the X-Men TA but has the Alpha Flight Keyword. On the other Hand Dr Fate R and Magik V are made other versions of the character because of Keywords but it fits the Figures (at least in my opinion)



II. Generics
• Adaptoid
• Advanced Sentinel
• AIM Agent
• AIM Medic
• Amazon
• Amazon of Bana-Mighdall
• Asgardian Brawler
• Asgardian Warrior
• Atlantean Warrior
• Badoon Commander
• Badoon Guard
• Badoon Warrior
• Bat Sentry
• Blackhawks
• BPRD Grunt
• BPRD Technican
• Brood Queen
• Brood Warrior
• Business Woman
• Checkmate Agent
• Checkmate Knight Black
• Checkmate Knight White
• Checkmate Medic
• Checkmate Pawn Black
• Checkmate Pawn White
• Code Blue Officer
• Con Artist
• Coroner
• Criminal
• Deli Worker
• DEO Agent
• Dominator
• Doombot
• Doombot 3095
• Doombot 5953
• Dreadnought
• Easy Company Medic
• Easy Company Soldier
• Fire Demon
• Frost Giant (100 Pts)
• Gotham City Detective
• GCPD
• Gorilla City Warrior
• Gotham Policeman
• Gotham Undercover
• Guardian of the Universe
• Guardsman
• HAMMER Agent
• HAMMER Elite Operative
• Hand Ninja
• HDC Trooper
• Hellfire Club Guard
• Hellfire Guard
• Henchman
• HERBIE
• Hive Trooper
• Howling Commando
• Hydra Agent
• Hydra Footsoldier
• Hydra Medic
• Hydra Officer
• Hydra Operative
• Hydra Technician
• Intergang Agent
• Intergang Medic
• Jamie Madrox
• Justice is Served!
• Kantus
• Knot Top
• Kobra Fanatic
• Kree Captain
• Kree Colonel
• Kree Warrior
• Kryptonian Infiltrator
• Kryptonian Soldier
• Lackey
• League Assassin
• League Elite
• Legionnaire
• LexCorp Battlesuit
• LexCorp Security
• Locust Drone
• Madrox
• Man Bat Assasin
• Mandroid Armor
• Manhunter CJ, AA
• Manhunter 2.0
• Mauler
• Metropolis SCU
• Metropolis Transit Driver
• Mindless One
• Moloid
• Monitor
• Morlock
• Movie Star
• Mugger
• Multiple Man
• Multiplex
• Native Warrior
• Nick Fury LMD
• Nurse
• OMAC
• Omega Prime Sentinel
• Paper Boy
• Parademon Drill Sergeant
• Parademon Grunt
• Parademon Scout
• Parademon Warrior
• Paramedic
• Phalanx Soldier
• Politician
• Predator X
• Professor
• Purifier
• Reporter
• Researcher
• Rock Troll
• Rocket Red
• Ruling Caste Dominator
• Science Police
• Scourge
• Security Guard
• Sentinel IC
• Sentinel Captain
• Sentinel Mark II
• Sentinel Mark V
• Sentinel Trooper
• Shadow Demon
• Shi’Ar Admiral
• Shi’Ar Borderer
• Shi’Ar Warrior
• SHIELD Agent
• SHIELD Field Agent
• SHIELD Medic
• SHIELD Sentry
• SHIELD Sniper
• SHIELD Specialist
• SHIELD Trooper
• Silver Dreadnought
• Skrull Agent
• Skrull Commando
• Skrull General
• Skrull Infiltrator
• Skrull Warrior
• Street Thug
• Spider Slayer
• Superman Robot
• Swarm
• SWAT Heavy Weapons
• SWAT Officer
• SWAT Specialist
• Symbiote
• Thug
• Thunderer of Qward
• U-Men
• Valkyrie HoT Common
• Vampire Lackey
• Warskrull
• Wendigo
• White Martian
• Wild Sentinel
• Zamaron

III. Same Civilian Identity, different Name or Sculpt (excluding LE, for different LE-Characters see Section V)
• Special Case: DCG Alloy is a Combination of the Metal Men (Platinum, Gold, Lead & Tin, Mercury, Iron)
• ???: The Joker/Clown Prince of Crime/ Red Hood LEG
• Abner Jenkins: Beetle/Mach
• Adrian Veidt: Ozymandias/Mask-Killer
• Anung un Rama: Hellboy/Hellbaby
• Barbara Gordon: Batgirl (AA, BMA, UN)/Oracle
• Barry Allen: The Flash (CR, JL LE, BaB, DC75, BN)/Barry Allen/The Flashes
• Bart Allen: Bart Allen/Kid Flash (LEG)/Impulse
• Bastion: Bastion/Nimrod
• Beatrice DaCosta: Fire/Green Flame
• Ben Reilly: Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider
• Betty Ross-Banner: Betty Ross-Banner/Red She-Hulk
• Billy Batson: Shazam/Wizard Shazam (BaB)
• Bruce Banner: (Rampaging) Hulk (except 2099)/Mr Fixit/Green Scar/Maestro
• Bruce Wayne: Batman (all except DC75 UC, CR LE, AA C, JL SR)/The Caped Crusader/The Masked Manhunter/Matches Malone/Dynamic Duo/Worlds Finest/Bruce Wayne/Dark Knight Detective/Dark Knight
• Carol Danvers: Ms Marvel (SI Avengers)/Warbird/Binary
• Carol Ferris: Carol Ferris/Star Sapphire
• Clark Kent:
Kal-L: Superman (CR Chase Superman Ally, OR, DC75 SR)/Kal-L
Kal-EL: Superman (all except the mentioned above and JL SR)/Worlds Finest/ Man of Steel/ Young Superman/Clark Kent/Superman Prime
Ultraman
• Clint Barton: Hawkeye (CT, FF, AV, Ult)/Ronin
• Diana Prince: Wonder Woman (all except LEG U, JL)/Diana Prince
• Damian Wayne: Damian Wayne/Robin (BaB)
• Donna Troy: Troia/Wonder Girl CR/Donna Troy
• Doug Ramsey: Doug Ramsey/Cypher
• Emma Grace Frost: Emma Frost/White Queen
• Edward “Eddie” Brock: Eddie Brock/Anti-Venom/Venom (CM, SIN, WoS UC)
• Garfield „Gar“ Logan: Beast Boy/Changeling
• Garth of Atlantis: Tempest/Aqualad
• Garth Raanz: Live Wire/ Lightning Lad
• George Tarleton: MODOK/George Tarleton
• Gleek: Gleek/Wonder Twins
• Goodness: Granny Goodness/Goodness & Mercy
• Guy Gardner: Guy Gardner/Green Lantern JL SR
• Hal Jordan: Green Lantern (UN, JL LE, CR, BN)/ Parallax/ Spectre Colossal R/Hal Jordan
• Hank Hall: Hawk/Extant
• Heather Hudson: Vindicator ULT/Sasquatch E
• Helmut Zemo: Zemo/Citizen V
• Henry “Hank” McCoy: Beast/Dark Beast
• Henry “Hank” Pym: Yellowjacket (FF,SI Avenger)/Ant-Man/Giant Man
• Him: Adam Warlock/The Magus
• Hippolyta: Wonder Woman LEG/Queen Hippolyta
• James Buchanan “Bucky” Barnes: Bucky Barnes/ Winter Soldier/Captain America CA
• James Gordon: Commissioner/Captain Gordon
• James “Logan” Howlett: Wolverine/(Colonel) Logan/Weapon X/Patch
• James Proudstar: Thunderbird AW E/Warpath
• Jamie Madrox: Jamie Madrox/James Madrox/Multiple Man/Madrox
• Janet Pym: Wasp/Janet Pym
• Jason Blood: Jason Blood/Demon/Etrigan
• Jean Grey-Summers: Jean Grey/(Dark) Phoenix/Black Queen MM/Marvel Girl
• Jean-Paul Valley: Azrael/Batman CR
• Jesse Chambers: Jesse Quick/Liberty Belle
• John Walker: John Walker/ US Agent
• Kara Zor-(E)L: Supergirl/Powergirl
• Karla Sofen: Moonstone/Meteorite
• Katherine “Kitty” Pryde: Shadowcat/Sprite
• Ken Hale: Gorilla Man/Ken Hale
• Kuan-Yin Xorn: Xorn/Magneto ULT LE
• Kyle Rayner: Kyle Rayner/Green Lantern CD
• Lockheed: Lockheed/Shadowcat XP U
• Lois Lane: Lois Lane /Superwoman
• Luke Cage: Power Man/ Luke Cage
• MacDonald “Mac” Gargan: Scorpion/Venom HoT, WoS LE
• Mar Vell: Captain Mar-Vell/Captain Marvel CM
• Maya Lopez: Echo/Ronin
• Michael Carter: Booster Gold/Supernova CR
• Monica Rambeau: Monica Rambeau/Captain Marvel SIN/Photon SIN/Pulsar
• Namor McKenzie: Namor/Sub Mariner
• Natasha Romanova: Black Widow/ Iron Widow
• Nathaniel Adams: Captain Atom/Monarch
• Nathaniel Richards: Kang (the Conquerer)/Iron Lad
• Norman Osborn: Green Goblin/Iron Patriot/Norman Osborn
• Norrin Radd: Silver Surfer/Silver Savage/Sentinel of the Skyways
• Peter Parker: Spider-Man (all except FF)/Spider-Hulk/Peter Parker/ Bombastic Bag-Man
• Rachel Summers: Phoenix ULT/Hound
• Renee Montoya: The Question AA/ Renee Montoya BST
• Richard “Dick” Grayson: Robin ICONS Starter, CR Titan/ Boy Wonder BMA/Nightwing/Red Robin/Batman DC75 UC
• Robbie Baldwin: Penance/Speedball
• Roy Harper: Speedy LEG, CR/Arsenal/Red Arrow
• Ryu: Ryu/Evil Ryu
• Steve Rogers: Colonel/Captain America (all except SI)/Steve Rogers
• Susan Storm-Richards: Invisible Girl/Woman/Susan Storm/Malice
• Tabitha Smith: Tabitha Smith/Boom Boom/Meltdown
• Ted Knight: Starman OR/Ted Knight
• Thaddeus Thwane: Kid Zoom/Inertia
• Thor Odinson: Thor/Mighty Thor/the Reigning/ Mighty Chariot/Frog of Thunder BST
• Tim Drake: Robin (all except CR Titans, BaB, ICONS Starter)/Dynamic Duo
• Tony Stark: Iron Man (& War Machine Duo)/Thorbuster/Hulkbuster/Anthony Stark/Tony Stark
• Tora Olafsdotter: Ice/Ice Maiden CD
• Wally West: Flash (JL UC, HT, ICONS)/Kid Flash CR/The Flashes
• Warren Worthington III: Archangel/Angel
• Vance Astrovik: Marvel Boy/Justice/Major Victory/Vance Astro
• Victor van Doom: Doom/Dr Doom (all except CT LE)
• X 51: Machine Man/Aaron Stack

IV. Same Meta-Identity, different Character
• GENERICS (s.a.)
• Abomination: XP Emil Blonsky --- AV Chang Lam
• Aquaman: JL Common Arthur Curry Jr. --- everyone else Arthur Curry Senior
• Ares: AV Marvel --- LEG, DC75 DC
• Atom: OR R Ryan Choi --- DC75 Al Pratt --- everyone else Ray Palmer
• Baron Zemo: ULT, AV Helmut Zemo --- CA Heinrich Zemo
• Batgirl: AA, BMA, UN Barbara Gordon --- CJ, CR Cassandra Cain
• Batman: AA Terry McGuinness---CR Jean Paul Valley---JL SR 1.000.000---DC75 UC Dick Grayson --- everyone else Bruce Wayne
• Black Canary: CJ R Dinah Drake --- CJ EV, JL Dinah Lance
• Black Queen: MM Jean Grey --- CM Selene
• Blockbuster: R Mark Desmond --- EV LE Roland Desmond
• Blue Beetle: HT, CR Ted Kord --- OR Jaime Reyes
• Brainiac: UN Brainiac 5 of the Legion --- ICONS, BaB, HT Brainiac the Superman Enemy
• Captain America: SI Isaiah Bradley --- CA Common & GF Bucky Barnes --- everyone else Steve Rogers
• Captain Boomerang: CD Owen Mercer --- JL, BD Digger Harkness
• Captain Britain: AV, ULT Brian Braddock --- AW Betsy Braddock
• Captain MarVell/Marvel (jr):SI Skrull --- SI SHIELD, CM, SN Mar Vell --- CR Freddy Freeman --- CD Mary Batson --- SIN Monica Rambeau --- SN Genis Vell
• Catwoman: HT, BMA Selina Kyle --- UN Patience Phillips
• Cheetah: CJ, ICONS LE Barbara Minerva --- ICONS EV Deborah Domaine --- ICONS R Priscilla Rich
• Citizen V: John Watkins III or Helmut Zemo
• Clayface: HT Preston Payne --- BMA, CD Basil Carlo
• Cuckoo: Esme (LE)--- Mindy --- Celeste --- Phoebe --- Sophie
• Crimson Dynamo: XP Dimitri Bukharin --- AW Gennady Gavrilov
• Crimson Fox: Vivian or Constance D’Aramis
• Deathlok: R Luther Manning (Future Keyword) --- EV LE Michael Collins
• Dove: CR Don Hall --- HT Dawn Granger
• Dr Doom: CT LE Android --- everyone else Viktor von Doom
• Dr Fate: OR Kent Nelson --- UN R Linda Strauss (JLI Keyword) --- UN EV LE Hector Hall
• Dr Light: JL Kimyo Hoshi --- CD Arthur Light
• Dr Spectrum: R Kenji Obatu --- EV LE Joe Ledger
• Dum Dum Dugan: Skrull --- SHIELD
• Eclipso: CJ Bruce Gordon --- CD Jean Loring
• Elektra: SI Skrull --- everyone else Elektra Natchios
• Enchantress: LEG June Moone --- CT, HoT Amora
• Fin Fang Foom: Green FFF --- Orange Midgard Serpent
• Firestorm: CJ Ronny Raymond --- JL Jason Rusch --- BD Ronny Raymond & Jason Rusch
• Flash: AA, HT Jay Garrick --- JL SR John Fox---JL LE, CR, BN, BaB, DC75 Barry Allen --- JL UC, HT, LEG Wally West
• Ghost Rider: 2099 Zero Cochrane --- FF Johnny Blaze --- ULT Danny Ketch
• Goliath: SI Ben Foster --- FF Erik Josten
• Gorgon: Inhuman M&M --- Tomi Shishido CA
• Green Arrow:JL Connor Hawke --- everyone else Oliver Queen
• Green Lantern: UN, JL LE, CR, BN, BaB Hal Jordan --- OR, LEG, DC75 Alan Scott --- CD Kyle Rayner --- CJ John Stewart--- JL Guy Gardener
• Guardian: SN James Hudson --- CD Jake Jordan
• Hawkeye: SI Kate Bishop --- CT, AV, Ult, FF Clint Barton
• Hawkgirl: ICONS, BD Sheiera Hall --- UN Kendra Saunders
• Hourman: JL 1.000.000 --- LEG Rex Tyler
• (Red/Spider) Hulk: 2099 John Eisenhart--- WoS Red Hulk Thaddeus Ross --- WoS Spider-Hulk Peter Parker --- everyone else Hulks Bruce Banner
• Human Torch: SI Jim Hammond --- FF, CT, SI Starter Johnny Storm
• Ice Maiden: CD Tora Olafsdotter --- DC75 Sigrid Nansen
• (King) Hyperion: R Zhib-Ran --- EV Mark Milton --- LE King Hyperion
• Jade: UN Cheshire --- LEG Jenny Lynn Hayden
• Crimson Avenger: CD Unknown --- DC75 Lee Travis
• Jarvis: SI Skrull --- BST (Edwin) Jarvis
• Johnny Quick: DC75 Johnny Chambers --- CD CSA Johnny Quick
• Kid Flash: LEG Bart Allen --- CR Wally West
• Loki: Loki Asgardian God --- Utgard-Loki Frost Giant
• Luthor: CR Alex --- ICONS, CJ, JL Lex
• Magneto: ULT Xorn --- everyone else Erik Lehnsherr/Magnus/Max Eisenhart
• Man Bat: HT, ICONS Kirk Langstrom --- Man Bat Assasin Generic
• Manhunter: CD Kate Spencer --- AA, CJ Robots
• Marvel Boy: HoT Bob Grayson --- SN Vance Astrovik
• Mongul: DC75 Mongul jr --- LEG Mongul
• Mr Terrific: LEG Michael Holt --- DC75 Terry Sloan
• Ms Marvel: Skrull --- Avenger Carol Danvers
• Nemesis: INDY Warlock --- GSX Son of Apocalypse
• Nightshade: CS Tilda Johnson --- AA Eve Eden
• Nova/Noh Varr: SN Richard Rider --- CM, MM Frankie Raye --- WoS Noh Varr
• Persuader: RE LE Nyeun Chun Ti --- V Cole Parker
• (Dark) Phoenix: ULT Rachel Summers – XP, AW, MM Jean Grey
• Photon: SIN Monica Rambeau --- SN Genis Vell
• Prof. Xavier: CM Brood Queen --- everyone else Charles Xavier
• Punisher: ULT, SI Frank Castle --- 2099 Jake Gallows
• Question: OR Charlie Szasz --- AA Renee Montoya
• Red Hood: CR Jason Todd --- LEG Joker
• Rhino: CM Alex O’Hirn --- SIN Aleksei Sytsevich
• Robin/Boy Wonder: AA, BMA, CR Batman, ICONS REV Tim Drake --- CR Titan, ICONS Starter, BMA Boy Wonder Dick Grayson --- CR Boy Wonder Jason Todd --- BaB Damian Wayne
• Ronin: Echo or Hawkeye (Clint Barton)
• Sandman: OR Wesley Dodds --- CT, WoS Flint Marko
• Sasquatch: R, LE Walter Lankowski --- E Heather Hudson
• Scientist Supreme: CA Monica Rappaccini --- CT Monica or any former Scientist Supreme
• Scorpion: XP, GSX Mac Gargan --- CA Carmilla Black
• Sentinel: OR Alan Scott --- IC Robot
• (Red) She-Hulk: Red Betty Ross-Banner --- everyone else Jennifer Walters
• Silk Spectre: Laurie Jupiter (#2, Duo) --- Sally Jupiter #10
• Skullbuster: GSX Unknown --- MM Cylla Markham
• Spectre: CR, Colossal E Jim Corrigan --- Colossal R Hal Jordan --- Colossal V Spirit without Host
• Speedy: CD Mia Dearden--- CR, LEG Roy Harper
• (Cosmic) Spider Man: FF Miguel O Hara --- everyone else Peter Parker
• Spider Woman: SI Veranke --- AW Jessica Drew
• Starman: OR Ted Knight --- CJ Jack Knight
• Steel: HT, OR John Henry Irons --- LEG Natasha Irons
• Superman: Superman OR, CR Chase Superman Ally Kal-L --- Superman JL SR 1.000.000 --- (Young) Superman everyone else Kal-El – Superman Prime
• Supernova: SN Richard Rider --- CR Michael Carter
• Susan Richards: SI Chase Lyja --- all other Invisible Woman
• Thor: CT, SN, HoT, Ult, Frog of Thunder BST--- HoT Frog of Thunder Puddlegulp
• Thunderbird: R John Proudstar --- E James Proudstar
• Tony Stark: BST LMD --- everyone else Iron Man
• Trickster: CD Axl Walker --- CR Jesse James
• Valor: CM Moloid --- OR Mon-el
• Valkyrie: SIN, HoT SR Brunhilde ----- HoT LE Samantha Parrington --- HoT Generic
• (Anti) Venom: CM, SIN, WoS Eddie Brock --- HoT, WoS LE Mac Gargan
• Vindicator: ULT Heather Hudson --- SN James Hudson
• Vision: IC U, SN RE LE Victor Shade --- SN V Jonas --- AV Ultimate
• (Wizard) Shazam: OR Chase Wizard --- UN, OR, BaB Billy Batson
• Wonder Girl: CR Donna Troy --- OR Cassie Sandsmark
• Wonder Woman: JL Artemis --- JL SR 1.000.000 --- LEG Hipollyta --- everyone else Diana
• Yellowjacket: Skrull --- SI Avenger, FF, IC Hank Pym --- CT Rita DeMara
• Zoom: AA Hunter Zolomon--- ICONS Eobard Thwane

V. Same Sculpt, different Character
• Generics (s.a.)
• AV Citizen V: Helmut Zemo or John Watkins III
• AV Ronin: Maya Lopez or Clint Barton
• AW Captain America: REV Steve Rogers --- LE John Walker
• AW Thunderbird/Warpath: R John Proudstar --- EV James Proudstar
• BaB All 5 V of the Generics are certain Characters
• CA Adaptoid --- Super Adaptoid
• CA Black Widow Natasha Romanoff --- Yelena Belova
• CA HYDRA Agent --- Richard Fisk
• CA SHIELD Specialist --- Maria Hill
• CD Superman Blue & Superman Red: 2 different Characters who are fragments of CD Superman V
• CJ Fury: REV Helena Kosmatos --- LE Lyta Trevor-Hall
• CR Chase Supermen: Supes Ally Kal-L --- KC Kal-El
• CR Robin: Titan Dick Grayson --- Boy Wonder Jason Todd
• DC75 Easy Company Soldiers --- Sgt Rock
• DC75 Gorilla City Warriors --- Solovar --- Grodd
• DC75 Zamarons --- Queen Agapo
• Fin Fang Foom: Orange Midgard Snake --- Green FFF
• GL Guardian of the Galaxy --- Ganthet
• GSX Frost Giant: 300 Pts Utgard Loki --- 100 Pts Generic
• GSX Purifer --- William Stryker
• IC Hobgoblin REV (& UNI Starter) Jason Macendale --- LE Ned Leeds
• ICONS Cheetah: R Priscilla Rich --- EV Deborah Domaine --- LE Barbara Ann Minerva
• INDY Stix: 3 Brothers
• JL Crimson Fox: Vivian or Constance D’Aramis
• LEG Hyena: 2 different Characters
• LEG Persuader: RE LE Nyeun Chun Ti --- V Cole Parker
• M&M Cuckoos; Esme (LE)--- Mindy --- Celeste --- Phoebe --- Sophie
• M&M Morph: Morph --- Proteus
• MM Sasquatch: R LE Walter --- E Heather Hudson Exiles --- V Tanaraq Great Beast
• OR Triplicate Girl/ Duo Damsel: Luornu Durgo splits into 3 or 2 Versions of herself
• SIN Deathlok: R Luther Manning (Future Keyword) --- EV LE Michael Collins
• SIN Spiderman: REV Peter Parker --- LE Symbiote
• SN Hyperion: R Zhib-Ran--- EV Mark Milton--- LE King Hyperion Exiles
• SN Dr Spectrum: R Kenji Obatu --- EV LE Joe Ledger
• SN Super Skrull: U Klrt --- LE Skymax
• SN Vision: RE LE Victor Shade --- V Jonas
• Spectre: Colossal E Jim Corrigan --- Colossal R Hal Jordan --- Colossal V Spirit without Host
• UN Dr Fate: R Linda Strauss (JLI Keyword) --- EV LE Hector Hall
• WoS Peter Parker --- Ben Reilly
• WoS Iron Patriot Norman Osborn --- Iron Man Tony Stark
• WoS Sgt Stone --- Code blue officers
• WoS Spider-Man Peter Parker --- Scarlet Spider Ben Reilly --- Venom Mac Gargan
• WoS Symbiote --- Carnage --- Toxin
• WoS Wolverine Logan --- Daken

VI. Duo-Ids of Identities which have been used by more than one Person
• Atom & Hawkman: Ray Palmer & Carter Hall
• Batman & Catwoman: Bruce Wayne & Selina Kyle
• Batman & Green Arrow: Bruce Wayne & Oliver Queen
• Batman & Robin: Bruce Wayne & Tim Drake
• Blue Beetle & Booster Gold: Michael Carter & Ted Kord
• Cap & Bucky: Steve Rogers & Bucky Barnes
• Cyclops & Phoenix: Scott Summers & Jean Grey
• Dynamic Duo: Bruce Wayne & Tim Drake
• Flash & Green Lantern: Barry Allen & Hal Jordan
• Green Lantern & Green Arrow: Hal Jordan & Oliver Queen
• Hawk & Dove: Hank Hall & Don Hall
• Shazam & Black Adam: Billy Batson & Black Adam
• Silk Spectre & Dr Manhattan: Laurie Jupiter & Jon Osterman
• Superman & Flash: Kal-El & Barry Allen
• The Flashes: Barry Allen & Wally West
• Trickster & Pied Piper: Jesse James & Hartley Rathaway
• Worlds Finest: Bruce Wayne & Kal-El

VII. Same Character, different Universe or Timeline (different means not from DC New Earth or Marvel 616)
• Adam Warlock Him: The Magus villainous alternate Version
• Batman Bruce Wayne: Kingdom Come UN --- Earth 2 (OR, DC75 SR) --- Red Rain CJ --- Dark Knight Returns HT U
• Hank McCoy Beast: Ultimate ULT --- Age of Apocalypse M&M Dark Beast
• Big Barda & Mr Miracle: The Nail JL Duo
• Black Widow Natasha Romanova: Ultimate (ULT, AV Iron Widow)
• Captain America Steve Rogers: Ultimate (ULT, AV) --- Zombie SN Colonel America
• Captain Britain Brian Braddock: Ultimate AV
• Clark Kent: Kingdom Come (UN, CR Chase KC) --- CJ Son of Darkseid --- Earth Prime AA Superman Prime --- Earth 2 Kal-L (OR, CR Chase Superman Ally, BaB Black Lantern, DC75 SR) --- Antimatter Universe Ultraman LEG
• Colossus: Ultimate ULT
• Cyclops: Ultimate ULT --- Age of Apocalypse M&M
• Dazzler: Ultimate AW
• Dick Grayson: Kingdom Come LEG Red Robin
• Dr Doom Victor van Doom: Ultimate FF --- 2099
• Dr Octopus: Ultimate (ULT, SI)
• Electro: Ultimate ULT
• Falcon: Ultimate AV
• Flash Wally West: Kingdom Come LEG
• Giant Man Hank Pym: Ultimate MM --- Zombie M&M
• Green Arrow Oliver Queen: Earth 2 JL JSA
• Green Goblin: Ultimate XP
• Green Lantern Alan Scott: Kingdom Come LEG
• Hawkeye Clint Barton: Ultimate ULT
• Hawkman Carter Hall: Kingdom Come LEG
• Heather Hudson: Exiles MM Sasquatch E
• Hulk Bruce Banner: Ultimate (ULT, AV) --- Zombie SN --- Future Imperfect M&M Maestro
• Human Torch Johnny Storm: Ultimate FF
• Hyperion: King Hyperion is an Alternate Version of one of the other 2 Hyperions (Exiles)
• Invisible Woman: Ultimate FF
• Iron Man Tony Stark: Ultimate (ULT, AV) --- Zombie M&M
• Jean Grey: Ultimate ULT Marvel Girl --- Age of Apocalypse M&M
• Jonah Hex: Movie JH
• Kara Zor-(E)L: Earth 2 Power Girl --- Original Earth 1 CR
• Lois Lane: Earth 2 CR BST --- Antimatter Universe LEG
• Magik: Exiles CM V (According to Keywords)
• Magneto Max Eisenhart: Ultimate ULT U --- House of M AW
• Mimic: Exiles M&M
• Mordru: Legion Future CJ
• Mr Fantastic: Ultimate FF
• Mystique: House of M AW
• Namor: Ultimate AV
• Nick Fury: Ultimate SIN
• Professor Charles Xavier: Ultimate FF
• Quicksilver: Ultimate AV
• Sabretooth: Ultimate ULT
• Scarlet Witch: Ultimate (FF, AV)
• Sentinel Generics: Ultimate (ULT Troopers & Captain) --- Days of Future Past (Advanced Sentinel)
• Shazam Billy Batson: Kingdom Come UN
• Spider-Man Peter Parker: Ultimate ULT --- Zombie (M&M, SN) --- House of M AW – Marvel Adventure HoT
• Storm: Ultimate ULT
• The Thing: Ultimate FF
• Thor: Ultimate ULT --- The Reigning HoT LE
• Vance Astrovik: Original GoG Timeline SN Vance Astro/Major Victory
• Vision: Ultimate AV
• Wasp: Ultimate AV --- Zombie (M&M Bst)
• Wolverine: Ultimate ULT --- Zombie (SN, M&M) --- House of M AW U --- Days of Future Past (FF, Colonel Logan)
• Wonder Woman Diana Prince: Kingdom Come UN --- (OR, DC75) Earth 2

VIII. Canon Immigrants (Different Universe or Timeline Versions who live on the Main Universe now or can interact)
• Clark Kent Kal-L Superman (on New Earth since Infinte Crisis)
• Clark Kent Kal-El Superman Prime (on New Earth since IC)
• Clark Kent Ultraman (had a lot of Fights with Heroes from New Earth)
• Hank McCoy Dark Beast (fled his collapsing Timeline)
• Heather Hudson Sasquatch E (member of Universe hopping Exiles)
• Iron Lad/Kang (Time Travellers, fought each other)
• Kara Zor-L Power Girl (on New Earth since Crisis on Infinite Earths)
• King Hyperion (Member of the Universe hopping Weapon X)
• Lois Lane Superwoman (had a lot of Fights with Heroes from New Earth)
• Magik V (according to Keywords is the version of Universe hopping Exiles)
• Magus (Fought the Heroes of 616)
• Mimic M&M (member of Universe hopping Exiles)
• Vance Astro/Major Victory (member of the 616 Guardians of Galaxy)

lancelot
11/30/2009, 13:31
Sweet mother of god!

Awesome!

lancelot
11/30/2009, 13:32
Double post by way of Realmworx, Inc.

sol
11/30/2009, 13:45
Not that I even like the idea of this rule I shall not name, but -

Superman HT, CJ, UN, Icons, JL Rare, CR Chase Hypertime/Worlds Finest/ Man of Steel/ Young Superman

How are Son of Darkseid Superman and Kingdom Come Superman from either Crisis or Unleashed 'same character, not playable with' regular Superman? Both are either from alternate realities, the future. This goes for any example you've listed with a KC version...

tyroman
11/30/2009, 13:45
nice list, rep given. are you from Great Britian? charakters not characters? anyways, no biggie, how about Crimson Fox? shouldn't she be added to the same sculpt different characters section? you could play two saying it was the sisters. :)

ZZZ
11/30/2009, 13:56
...Citizen V is actually a separate character from Baron Zemo.

Mr. Pilkington
11/30/2009, 13:57
I'm not sure that I agree on Brood being generic. The Brood Warrior and Brood Queen, yes. But Brood from Mutations and Monsters represented the specific Brood individual that ended up with Hulk in the Warbound group. The card lists "No-Name" for the name, which is that one specific Brood. I think the name combined with the Warbound keyword should differentiate that Brood.

Granted, the AA Street Thug does list Joe Chill as the thug's name, but he has no keyword that would indicate it was one single person.

That's just my take. Others may feel very differently about Brood.

M.Drake
11/30/2009, 13:57
nice list, rep given. are you from Great Britian? charakters not characters? anyways, no biggie, how about Crimson Fox? shouldn't she be added to the same sculpt different characters section? you could play two saying it was the sisters. :)

Nope I am from Germany and get some words that are written almost the same mixed up.
afaik the crimson fox sisters never operated together at the same time

Not that I even like the idea of this rule I shall not name, but -

Superman HT, CJ, UN, Icons, JL Rare, CR Chase Hypertime/Worlds Finest/ Man of Steel/ Young Superman

How are Son of Darkseid Superman and Kingdom Come Superman from either Crisis or Unleashed 'same character, not playable with' regular Superman? Both are either from alternate realities, the future. This goes for any example you've listed with a KC version...

I took alternative future as the same Character as the standard and only made a difference if they are extremly different or stroywise different (like maestro or earth 2) since KC originally were the earth 1 heroes I see them as the same.

Of course there are things I could improve like differing the marvel zombies but the list was a lot of work and I am quite tired right now. maybe I will update and improve it some other time

I'm not sure that I agree on Brood being generic. The Brood Warrior and Brood Queen, yes. But Brood from Mutations and Monsters represented the specific Brood individual that ended up with Hulk in the Warbound group. The card lists "No-Name" for the name, which is that one specific Brood. I think the name combined with the Warbound keyword should differentiate that Brood.

Icouldnt decide on her so I took my liberty and just made her generic (as I do in my games) as you said other generics have a name on the backside too.

I know about Citizen V I wrote that under Ideas since his real name on the card was Zemo or watkins

darius_dax1
11/30/2009, 14:01
What's a Highlander rule?

Quebbster
11/30/2009, 14:03
What's a Highlander rule?

Something some people like to use and you do not.
We don't need to have that particular discussion again.

sol
11/30/2009, 14:04
I took alternative future as the same Character as the standard and only made a difference if they are extremly different or stroywise different (like maestro or earth 2) since KC originally were the earth 1 heroes I see them as the same.

Of course there are things I could improve like differing the marvel zombies but the list was a lot of work and I am quite tired right now. maybe I will update and improve it some other time

Even though they've appeared in the same story together, multiple times? Bollocks.

M.Drake
11/30/2009, 14:08
Even though they've appeared in the same story together, multiple times? Bollocks.

As I wrote at the top somewhere its just suggestions its not written in stone. you dont like it, dont play it that way:)

Something some people like to use and you do not.
We don't need to have that particular discussion again.

I dont intended to start trouble here (otoh its the realms...;))
I just made that list for our german forum and thought it would be a nice addition for the realms.

sol
11/30/2009, 14:10
As I wrote at the top somewhere its just suggestions its not written in stone. you dont like it, dont play it that way:)

Sure. What I'm saying, though is, it's simply not true despite my preference. KC Superman is even from Earth-22 now.

M.Drake
11/30/2009, 14:13
Sure. What I'm saying, though is, it's simply not true despite my preference. KC Superman is even from Earth-22 now.


yeah but originally he was "our" clark kent. but you know what I dont want to argue with you, I will change it

sol
11/30/2009, 14:17
yeah but originally he was "our" clark kent. but you know what I dont want to argue with you, I will change it

Me either...but technically...he was originally 'Elseworlds'. Just like Son of Darkseid. By that logic, Vampire Batman can't be on the same team as regular Batman.

In so far as 'no duplicate figures', in practice I agree with it up to a point. If you can explain (or moreover, the figure or character is self-explanatory) why two versions of one guy is on your team (and i'm not talking about something like 5 OOTS Batmen), usually cross-dimensional or something, then I allow it. Comics have always had this sort of thing going down, and in the last 5 years it's an almost everyday event. Hence my quibble.

M.Drake
11/30/2009, 14:22
I always say you can do everything in comics, you just need a writer who is good or crazy enough to explain it ;). originally I wanted to make another paragraph titled Alternative Universes but as I said the List as it stand was a hell lot of work and i am quite tired. so I tried to put similar versions as one character (like the ultimate and the 616)

JDKenada
11/30/2009, 14:25
Actually, on SuperGene's site there's a list already done by Lofcutus and it does a slightly better job in breaking it down, as his list explains who each person is and which ones are alternate universe and the like. That list includes everything but Hammer of Thor (unless it's been updated).

It's the one I use for Highlander, though I say that not to derail the efforts of the OP in any way. It was a great effort undertaken and a great point of reference still.

IceHot
11/30/2009, 14:56
What's a Highlander rule?

A house rule defining "There can only be one". It comes from the movie Highlander where one of the characters said "There can only be one".

IceHot
11/30/2009, 14:58
At one time I saw a cool scenario or campaign set of rules that RavenProject but together.

It certainly looked like a lot of thought and comic book knowledge went into it.

Uberman
11/30/2009, 15:04
This list is pretty comprehensive, but it makes me feel that a list of whoever counts as 'generic' or rather 'not-unique' would be more useful, if applied with a blanket figures-are-unique-by-dial rule. It's too easy [and often fun] to explain into existence multiple versions of characters, but then, from a game balance perspective, it'd be more logical to make dials unique from the get-go, except where explicitly designed not to be [as generics theoretically should have been].

Not that my opinion really matters at all here.

M.Drake
04/13/2010, 10:17
Update with BaB and I added a Duo Sektion

lancelot
04/13/2010, 10:32
Update with BaB and I added a Duo Sektion

Awesome, thanks!

TopDog
05/03/2010, 22:39
So...you play Highlander is ANY character with the same name? I've never seen it done that way. I've seen where you couldn't have 2 HoT Caps, but could play Ult Cap, HoT Cap, AW Cap, etc...
Is this common?

lancelot
05/03/2010, 22:43
Different "Universes" within the Marvel Universe, that's pretty cool with me, especially when Ultimates Captain isn't 616, HoT is Steve Rogers, and IMHO, AW Cap was John Walker, so that'd totally fly in my book. 3 HoT Captains, though, won't.

Blaiser
05/03/2010, 22:54
When I read the title of this thread, I was imagining rules that included only characters with blades, which once defeated the KOing character permanately kept one power on the defeated character's dial. Or raised one stat by one point for the rest of game. Hmm...

lancelot
05/03/2010, 22:56
Highlander = "There can only be one!"

TopDog
05/03/2010, 23:02
Different "Universes" within the Marvel Universe, that's pretty cool with me, especially when Ultimates Captain isn't 616, HoT is Steve Rogers, and IMHO, AW Cap was John Walker, so that'd totally fly in my book. 3 HoT Captains, though, won't.

OK, bad example. oots Batman, B&tB Batman, & HT Batman? Doesn't work?

M.Drake
05/04/2010, 02:49
OK, bad example. oots Batman, B&tB Batman, & HT Batman? Doesn't work?

No, because they are all Bruce Wayne. you could play Batman 1.000.000, Batman and Batman beyond in one team (or KC Batman or OR Batman because they are Bruce Wayne but from another world)

regarding the ultimate U: I havent made a difference between 616 and Ult because of 2 reasons
1. imo at least the figures we have are so similar in both universes that I thought I put them in one category (originally I went with secret identitys but someone insisted I seperate Kingdome come from earth 1, so I did this)
2. I plan on adding a Universes sektion on a later date, but dont now when yet

sol
05/04/2010, 09:02
Different "Universes" within the Marvel Universe, that's pretty cool with me, especially when Ultimates Captain isn't 616, HoT is Steve Rogers, and IMHO, AW Cap was John Walker, so that'd totally fly in my book. 3 HoT Captains, though, won't.

Armor Wars Cap was ABSOLUTELY NOT John Walker. Only John Walker was John Walker. Believe me, that was divisive enough an issue in playtesting that I'm not going to ever let somebody 'think' it was John Walker as the REV.

lancelot
05/04/2010, 10:19
Believe me, that was divisive enough an issue in playtesting
You playtested AW? Such a divisive issue, eh? DO TELL!

sol
05/04/2010, 10:24
You playtested AW? Such a divisive issue, eh? DO TELL!

Yeah. We were told who it was supposed to be when we were going back and forth about stuff (cause the first version just wasn't well liked). So a lot of that went into the John Walker LE (which we thought was supposed to be Steve Rogers, which STILL pisses me off to this day). It felt like a bait-and-switch.

At least, I was (IMO) instrumental in getting the Veteran Brilliant Tactician status.

M.Drake
07/16/2010, 15:15
Update Watchmen

I have the knot top leader as a generic since I dont know if he is supposed to be the exact one who kills Hollis or just A KT Leader. I will change it as soon as I can see his Card

M.Drake
07/23/2010, 12:42
Update: I changed the "same Character/different Name" and put the Civilian Names before

still a work in progress

I will put a different universe section next

M.Drake
07/23/2010, 14:46
Another Update for today

(hope someone is still reading this)

sol
07/23/2010, 15:22
I always read it when there's an update.

M.Drake
07/23/2010, 15:39
I always read it when there's an update.

Thx hope you still like it. If I missed something or someone tell me^^

lancelot
07/23/2010, 15:41
Awesome.

It'd also be cool that whenever you post an update, you could tell us what's new?

Thanks!

M.Drake
07/23/2010, 16:09
Awesome.

It'd also be cool that whenever you post an update, you could tell us what's new?

Thanks!

D'oh I forgot of course

First of all I put the civilian names in section 2 so there is an alphabetical order in there. Then I created a new section for Characters which we have versions from other realities.

M.Drake
07/24/2010, 13:52
Another Update:

- I put a lot of figures in sections where I have forgotten them (Abomination in sektion 3, a lot of new "other universe" guys
- Since I saw that there are some DC Characters who are actually versions from other Earths I tried to put them all in and I wrote myself in a corner a little bit (Power Girl who is strictly spoken a Earth 2 version of supergirl but has a rich history on NE beside Supergirl by now). So I made a new Section with Characters who are versions of existing NE/616 Characters but are living on the main universe now or interacting regulary with it (CSA, Exiles)

Enjoy^^

M.Drake
08/06/2010, 12:21
Update with the dials of WoS we have so far

invisibo
08/23/2010, 14:40
subscribin'

Space Jawa
08/23/2010, 14:54
While I'm not a fan of the highlander rule persay, I still have to put in an argument for including Mysterio on the generic list. Technically, there's only one of each of the two of them, but considering his history of holograms and robot doubles to aid his whole misdirection schtick, it's not really out of place for there to be more than one of him on the game board at any one time.

M.Drake
08/24/2010, 03:51
While I'm not a fan of the highlander rule persay, I still have to put in an argument for including Mysterio on the generic list. Technically, there's only one of each of the two of them, but considering his history of holograms and robot doubles to aid his whole misdirection schtick, it's not really out of place for there to be more than one of him on the game board at any one time.

I think this is a case of breaking the rule for a good reason (as I said in the beginning, my list is not a rule but a help for people who want to know who is who). I had a chapter for such ideas in the original list but after I noticed that there are too many things you could explain so I deleted it.

some ideas i had in that chapter:
Mysterio and mirror master as "generics" (like you said)
Iron man armors as generics (since tony is able to control an army of them)
KC Hawkman as the modern version of northwind
KC Red robin as Countdown-version of jason todd or modern version of Tim Drake
Spiderclones
Ultron as generic
Kang as Council of Kangs

lancelot
08/24/2010, 16:20
I think this is a case of breaking the rule for a good reason (as I said in the beginning, my list is not a rule but a help for people who want to know who is who). I had a chapter for such ideas in the original list but after I noticed that there are too many things you could explain so I deleted it.

some ideas i had in that chapter:
Mysterio and mirror master as "generics" (like you said)
Iron man armors as generics (since tony is able to control an army of them)
KC Hawkman as the modern version of northwind
KC Red robin as Countdown-version of jason todd or modern version of Tim Drake
Spiderclones
Ultron as generic
Kang as Council of Kangs
Agreeing with your stance on non-generics that could be generic. Leave it up to individual judges and keep this database to those who are truly generic. Here's another helping of rep...if I can send it your way!

M.Drake
10/08/2010, 04:32
Update with the final WoS Figures. and since some of you were asking:

How do I specify which Character a Figure is if it is not recognizable on first sight?
Three Steps in that Order:
1. Dial and Character Card(Powers, Power names)
2. Sculpt
3. Keywords

An Example of Dial trumping Sculpt: Professor Zoom (Sculpt is Zoom)

Keywords are considered last because most of them were retconned on the Figures so I just use them to identify a character if they don’t stand in the opposite of the figure
For example ULT Electro and Magneto have Keywords they should not have because they are clearly the Ultimate Versions, Sasquatch E was ID’d as Heather Hudson in a WK Article when MM came out and she has the X-Men TA but has the Alpha Flight Keyword.
On the other Hand Dr Fate R and Magik V are made other versions of the character because of Keywords but it doesn’t exactly stand in a contrast to the Figures (at least in my opinion)

M.Drake
11/29/2010, 04:55
DC75 Update

Darth Sabre
11/29/2010, 05:07
This is awesome and appreciated. You are to be commended. Even if it's not a rule written in stone, it is a useful tool.

super57
02/25/2011, 02:02
I am new and confused about what you are actually saying. Many mispellings. Iwould love to see an upadted list, up through DC 75th, that is just titled, "Figures you can use more than one of when playing Highlander Rule". Are you saying that the figures you are listing in the different categories mentioned, you can play more than one of, when playing Highlander Rule, or are they the ones you cannot play more than one of?

Other Questions:
Can I use more than one Miek or Korg when playing Highlander Rule?
Can I use more than one figure that has a Generic Key Word on it's Character Card, when playing Highlander Rule? Yes or No

I wished Wizkids would make it a Core Rule.

M.Drake
02/25/2011, 03:34
I am new and confused about what you are actually saying. Many mispellings. Iwould love to see an upadted list, up through DC 75th, that is just titled, "Figures you can use more than one of when playing Highlander Rule". Are you saying that the figures you are listing in the different categories mentioned, you can play more than one of, when playing Highlander Rule, or are they the ones you cannot play more than one of?

Other Questions:
Can I use more than one Miek or Korg when playing Highlander Rule?
Can I use more than one figure that has a Generic Key Word on it's Character Card, when playing Highlander Rule? Yes or No

I wished Wizkids would make it a Core Rule.

re Mispellings: English is not my first Language and originally I wrote the List in German. With every Update I try to improvise the list and correct the leftover errors but since it is such a big List it is not that simple

As I said at the start of the List: This List is made as a help for People who like myself try to build Teams as accurate as possible, but it is not the End of all. And it definatly does not cover ALL possibilities to use more than one character with the Same Name in a Game. To quote myself:

Quote : Originally Posted by Space Jawa View Post
While I'm not a fan of the highlander rule persay, I still have to put in an argument for including Mysterio on the generic list. Technically, there's only one of each of the two of them, but considering his history of holograms and robot doubles to aid his whole misdirection schtick, it's not really out of place for there to be more than one of him on the game board at any one time.
I think this is a case of breaking the rule for a good reason (as I said in the beginning, my list is not a rule but a help for people who want to know who is who). I had a chapter for such ideas in the original list but after I noticed that there are too many things you could explain so I deleted it.

some ideas i had in that chapter:
Mysterio and mirror master as "generics" (like you said)
Iron man armors as generics (since tony is able to control an army of them)
KC Hawkman as the modern version of northwind
KC Red robin as Countdown-version of jason todd or modern version of Tim Drake
Spiderclones
Ultron as generic
Kang as Council of Kangs

At the End of the Day YOU decide what Team you play

re your Questions at the End:
You COULD play multiple Korg since there is a whole Race of him, but if you want to play strictly HL you cannot because the figure we have is KORG not a generic of his race.
Miek I don't think would be accurate in multiples because iirc he was unique in his Form of King Miek, at least I don't remember any other King-forms from his people

If you can use more than one version of a Figure with a generic Keyword depends on who the Figure represents. MOst Figures are a specific Character.

re DC75;
I actually already updated with DC75 but for you a short list:
generics from the set:
Zamaron
Gorilla Warriors
Easy Comp Soldier
Dominators (both versions)

same sculpt different character: Ice --- Ice Maiden

All othe Figures are specific Characters


re your Question
Are you saying that the figures you are listing in the different categories mentioned, you can play more than one of, when playing Highlander Rule, or are they the ones you cannot play more than one of?

depends on the category. Highlander in my opinion depends on the character who is played so if you want to play highlander you need to know who is who.

Generics: play how many you want
Same Civillian ID: Same Character, just one
Same Meta-ID: Different Characters, play both if you want
Same sculpt, different Character: you can play both
Alternate Version: You decide

This started as a simple generic list but it is not simple to really try to put all this info together if you really want to play with highlander rule.

Hope I answered some of your questions, if not feel free to ask again

super57
02/25/2011, 22:26
re Mispellings: English is not my first Language and originally I wrote the List in German. With every Update I try to improvise the list and correct the leftover errors but since it is such a big List it is not that simple

As I said at the start of the List: This List is made as a help for People who like myself try to build Teams as accurate as possible, but it is not the End of all. And it definatly does not cover ALL possibilities to use more than one character with the Same Name in a Game. To quote myself:



At the End of the Day YOU decide what Team you play

re your Questions at the End:
You COULD play multiple Korg since there is a whole Race of him, but if you want to play strictly HL you cannot because the figure we have is KORG not a generic of his race.
Miek I don't think would be accurate in multiples because iirc he was unique in his Form of King Miek, at least I don't remember any other King-forms from his people

If you can use more than one version of a Figure with a generic Keyword depends on who the Figure represents. MOst Figures are a specific Character.

re DC75;
I actually already updated with DC75 but for you a short list:
generics from the set:
Zamaron
Gorilla Warriors
Easy Comp Soldier
Dominators (both versions)

same sculpt different character: Ice --- Ice Maiden

All othe Figures are specific Characters


re your Question


depends on the category. Highlander in my opinion depends on the character who is played so if you want to play highlander you need to know who is who.

Generics: play how many you want
Same Civillian ID: Same Character, just one
Same Meta-ID: Different Characters, play both if you want
Same sculpt, different Character: you can play both
Alternate Version: You decide

This started as a simple generic list but it is not simple to really try to put all this info together if you really want to play with highlander rule.

Hope I answered some of your questions, if not feel free to ask again

On the back of the Character Cards, there is a category called Real Name:
My question on this would be, if the Real Name says Various or Unknown, would that constitute a Generic. Also, copy and paste the folling website to your browser and go to it:

http://h1.ripway.com/Harpua/HCKeywordList.pdf

Tell me if the Figures listed under Harpua's Keyword List on Page 26, that have a Generic Keyword, are considered Generic's to where you can play more than one with HL Rules. He has Indigo-1 listed as having a Keyword on the Character Card, so I wanted to know if she woud be considered a Generic that you could use more than one of, and if you can use more than one Impossible Man as well? Or is this Keyword List for something other than HL Rules?

super57
02/25/2011, 22:27
re Mispellings: English is not my first Language and originally I wrote the List in German. With every Update I try to improvise the list and correct the leftover errors but since it is such a big List it is not that simple

As I said at the start of the List: This List is made as a help for People who like myself try to build Teams as accurate as possible, but it is not the End of all. And it definatly does not cover ALL possibilities to use more than one character with the Same Name in a Game. To quote myself:



At the End of the Day YOU decide what Team you play

re your Questions at the End:
You COULD play multiple Korg since there is a whole Race of him, but if you want to play strictly HL you cannot because the figure we have is KORG not a generic of his race.
Miek I don't think would be accurate in multiples because iirc he was unique in his Form of King Miek, at least I don't remember any other King-forms from his people

If you can use more than one version of a Figure with a generic Keyword depends on who the Figure represents. MOst Figures are a specific Character.

re DC75;
I actually already updated with DC75 but for you a short list:
generics from the set:
Zamaron
Gorilla Warriors
Easy Comp Soldier
Dominators (both versions)

same sculpt different character: Ice --- Ice Maiden

All othe Figures are specific Characters


re your Question


depends on the category. Highlander in my opinion depends on the character who is played so if you want to play highlander you need to know who is who.

Generics: play how many you want
Same Civillian ID: Same Character, just one
Same Meta-ID: Different Characters, play both if you want
Same sculpt, different Character: you can play both
Alternate Version: You decide

This started as a simple generic list but it is not simple to really try to put all this info together if you really want to play with highlander rule.

Hope I answered some of your questions, if not feel free to ask again

P.S. can you send me a list of all Genreics that we can use more than one of in Highlander Rules, and do you have any idea of any in GSX-Men?

JDKenada
02/26/2011, 01:12
P.S. can you send me a list of all Genreics that we can use more than one of in Highlander Rules, and do you have any idea of any in GSX-Men?

Multiple Man
Purifier
Omega Prime Sentinel
Hellfire Guard
Mindless One

:classic:

M.Drake
02/26/2011, 03:29
On the back of the Character Cards, there is a category called Real Name:
My question on this would be, if the Real Name says Various or Unknown, would that constitute a Generic. Also, copy and paste the folling website to your browser and go to it:

http://h1.ripway.com/Harpua/HCKeywordList.pdf

Tell me if the Figures listed under Harpua's Keyword List on Page 26, that have a Generic Keyword, are considered Generic's to where you can play more than one with HL Rules. He has Indigo-1 listed as having a Keyword on the Character Card, so I wanted to know if she woud be considered a Generic that you could use more than one of, and if you can use more than one Impossible Man as well? Or is this Keyword List for something other than HL Rules?


There is a difference between generic Figure and generic Keyword. The Keyword has nothing to do with the Status as a Generic

The Character Card bit on the other Hand is mostly correct. The Characters with Various are usually Generics. But there are one or Two who have a Name and are considered Generics, for example Gotham City Detective has REAL NAME Crispus Allen on his Back but is a Generic, also the Street Thug from the same Set

Real Name Unknown is no indication if a Figure is Generic

re your second Question JDKenada already answered that, thx to him but he forgot the Sentinels from the Super Boosters;)

M.Drake
02/26/2011, 04:53
UPDATE

with confirmed GSX till now, a Table of Contents and hopefully less spelling Errors

super57
02/26/2011, 07:43
UPDATE

with confirmed GSX till now, a Table of Contents and hopefully less spelling Errors

Thanks for the help.

I guess the Generic Keyword on Harpuas list, is used for making Theme Teams, to get the free PC actions correct?

Are you able to send a list of all figures that you can use more than one of when playing Highlander rules. Figure name; number; and Set? If you do not have one, or that is too much work, do you know any website that may be maintaining an updated list of them, where I can find one? I see someone did a Thread on Generics Keywords, but not a list of all figures that you can play more than one of with Highlander Rules, that I know of.

Would you like to see Wizkids adopt Highlander as a Core Rule or Optional Rule, listed in their Rule Book, and provide an updated list of the figures that you can use more than one of, when playing these rules, on their website?

super57
02/26/2011, 07:52
Multiple Man
Purifier
Omega Prime Sentinel
Hellfire Guard
Mindless One

:classic:

Hey, I am Superman. Or, maybe like the Green Lanterns, there is more than one.

Puuka
02/26/2011, 08:42
I did something similar with the AKA column in Battle Planner. Now, if only the guy would get the update out...

M.Drake
02/26/2011, 09:46
Thanks for the help.

I guess the Generic Keyword on Harpuas list, is used for making Theme Teams, to get the free PC actions correct?

Are you able to send a list of all figures that you can use more than one of when playing Highlander rules. Figure name; number; and Set? If you do not have one, or that is too much work, do you know any website that may be maintaining an updated list of them, where I can find one? I see someone did a Thread on Generics Keywords, but not a list of all figures that you can play more than one of with Highlander Rules, that I know of.

Would you like to see Wizkids adopt Highlander as a Core Rule or Optional Rule, listed in their Rule Book, and provide an updated list of the figures that you can use more than one of, when playing these rules, on their website?

Glad I could help

You are correct, the keywords are used for Theme Teams

I have no such List unfortunatly would be a big piece of work with all the Sets we have until now, too much work for my spare Time right now but I will keep it in mind

As for making HL an official rule. I think it would be better for the Game if it stays not. While a lot of Guys (like you and me) prefer and encourage comic accurate Teams there are also a lot of guys who do not and it would be kind of bullheaded to try to dictate them what they can play or not. Also if someone wants to play all iron man armors or a spider clone army he should be allowed to. Limiting the Figure pool is a bad move (also why I don't like retirement.
Last but not Least it is a practical Aspect. not everyone wants to take the Time reading through a List like mine above to make an accurate team and nobody should be forced to

Hey, I am Superman. Or, maybe like the Green Lanterns, there is more than one.
As for Superman and the GLs I have them in my List:

• Green Lantern: UN, JL LE, CR, BN, BaB Hal Jordan --- OR, LEG, DC75 Alan Scott --- CD Kyle Rayner --- CJ John Stewart--- JL Guy Gardener
• Superman: Superman OR, CR Chase Superman Ally Kal-L --- Superman JL SR 1.000.000 --- (Young) Superman everyone else Kal-El – Superman Prime

you can also play superman red and superman blue from CD together in one Team because they represent the Time Electro-Supes split in two Supermen

super57
02/27/2011, 18:35
Glad I could help

You are correct, the keywords are used for Theme Teams

I have no such List unfortunatly would be a big piece of work with all the Sets we have until now, too much work for my spare Time right now but I will keep it in mind

As for making HL an official rule. I think it would be better for the Game if it stays not. While a lot of Guys (like you and me) prefer and encourage comic accurate Teams there are also a lot of guys who do not and it would be kind of bullheaded to try to dictate them what they can play or not. Also if someone wants to play all iron man armors or a spider clone army he should be allowed to. Limiting the Figure pool is a bad move (also why I don't like retirement.
Last but not Least it is a practical Aspect. not everyone wants to take the Time reading through a List like mine above to make an accurate team and nobody should be forced to


As for Superman and the GLs I have them in my List:

• Green Lantern: UN, JL LE, CR, BN, BaB Hal Jordan --- OR, LEG, DC75 Alan Scott --- CD Kyle Rayner --- CJ John Stewart--- JL Guy Gardener
• Superman: Superman OR, CR Chase Superman Ally Kal-L --- Superman JL SR 1.000.000 --- (Young) Superman everyone else Kal-El – Superman Prime

you can also play superman red and superman blue from CD together in one Team because they represent the Time Electro-Supes split in two Supermen

I found something that may be of help. Cut and paste the following website into your browser, and hit enter. I believe someone has created a Generics Reference List, that is updated.

http://michianaclix.blogspot.com/2011/02/highlander-rules-and-reference.html


Look at the bottom of the Generics List. They lindicate Impossible Man is considered a Generic for constructed play, along with Multiplex, and some others. Does that mean, I can use more than one of him with Highlander Rule, or is Constructed play

Daky
02/27/2011, 19:02
Where there more than 1 Herbie at a time?

El Poolman
02/27/2011, 19:25
This is incredible! :o

Thank you so much for this!

super57
02/27/2011, 23:10
This is incredible! :o

Thank you so much for this!

I see your point. It would not make sense to use more than one Character with a name, using Highlander Rule. However, the Generic list at the website, lists at the end, that Impossible Man and Multiplex are Generics for constucted play. Does constructed play include using Highlander Rule (yes or no)?, and if yes, are they incorrect to indicate that you can use more than one of these two Generics when playing Highlander Rule (yes or no)?

Lofcutus
02/27/2011, 23:32
I found something that may be of help. Cut and paste the following website into your browser, and hit enter. I believe someone has created a Generics Reference List, that is updated.

http://michianaclix.blogspot.com/2011/02/highlander-rules-and-reference.html


Look at the bottom of the Generics List. They lindicate Impossible Man is considered a Generic for constructed play, along with Multiplex, and some others. Does that mean, I can use more than one of him with Highlander Rule, or is Constructed play

As the author of that list I would have to say, ask the Judge/Venue that is using Highlander Rules in an event as they have the final say.

We have included Imposible man under "Multiplication powers" which are treated as generics, because of his history of creating duplicates of himself while tormenting Thing, repopulating (or would that be re-Poppup-ulating) his home planet etc.

I have long advocated that Highlander is not a "rule", as much as it is a style of play. As such (and due to the nature of the source material) it is fluid nd open to interpretation team-by-team.

super57
02/28/2011, 00:00
As the author of that list I would have to say, ask the Judge/Venue that is using Highlander Rules in an event as they have the final say.

We have included Imposible man under "Multiplication powers" which are treated as generics, because of his history of creating duplicates of himself while tormenting Thing, repopulating (or would that be re-Poppup-ulating) his home planet etc.

I have long advocated that Highlander is not a "rule", as much as it is a style of play. As such (and due to the nature of the source material) it is fluid nd open to interpretation team-by-team.

Thank you. Your list is superb. NECA should pay you to be a Consultant. If a vast majority of Heroclix players and Judges, prefer to play the Highlander Rule, and I know I do, Wizkids should make it an "Optional" Rule in the Rule Book only, and identify specifically what the Generics are that one could use more than one of playing Highlander Rules, since they are trying to incorporate comic accuracy into the game when planning figures. I do agree with you though, that Impossible Man should be a Generic for Highlander Rule.

M.Drake
02/28/2011, 01:37
I have long advocated that Highlander is not a "rule", as much as it is a style of play. As such (and due to the nature of the source material) it is fluid nd open to interpretation team-by-team.

THIS

and Rep for your List. I hope you don't think of me as a copycat. I have to admit your list was an inspiration for me when I decided to make this List, which I made without outside resources (except the unit section my own comic knowledge and wikipedia).

It was/is a piece of work and I'm always glad seeing other people liking it

thebigmanx
02/28/2011, 02:31
In my opinion, Gotham City Detective should be a non-generic. His card clearly states that he is Crispus Allen, and his sculpt looks just like Crispus Allen. There is no way a generic cop is this good, and that leads me to believe that even when Wizkids was making this dial, they did it as a character, rather then a generic. Just my 2 cents here.

M.Drake
02/28/2011, 02:53
In my opinion, Gotham City Detective should be a non-generic. His card clearly states that he is Crispus Allen, and his sculpt looks just like Crispus Allen. There is no way a generic cop is this good, and that leads me to believe that even when Wizkids was making this dial, they did it as a character, rather then a generic. Just my 2 cents here.

I know that and I thought about it some time but in the end I think if it was supposed to be Cris Allen they would have named it Crispus Allen and the LE The Spectre on the dial. same with Joe Chill (Street Thug). but I can understand why some people would think otherwise.

M.Drake
03/21/2011, 12:11
Update with the rest of GSX

M.Drake
07/04/2011, 13:08
Update

Green Lantern
HoT FF
Captain America GF & what I could see from the poster

vamroc
07/04/2011, 14:03
The Highlander Rule
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
What's so complicated about it

M.Drake
07/04/2011, 14:13
The Highlander Rule
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
What's so complicated about it

sounds catchier than "The youcanonlyplayoneversionofthecharacterruleexceptifheisageneric-rule"

M.Drake
08/05/2011, 14:26
Generics Update with GoW and the Kryptonians